Strengths and weakness comparison should include bright room viewing. My OLED is now in my bedroom and my QN90B is in my living room because of just that. Your video is entirely in a very dark area which omits a very important part of viewing.
I was also looking for the same set up, 70+ oled in the room and 80+ mini led in the living room. Another reason for this is I want to get a big enough screen for both places. For the 70 inch range OLED has 77 inch which is 2 inch bigger than mini LED's 75, and for the 80+ range, mini led is usually 86 inch, where OLED is 83.
Who the he'll watches TV in a bright room or in sunlight and or curtains open WHO DOES THAT IM 50 WATCHED TV ALL MY LIFE first thing you do is CLOSE THE DARN CURTAINS
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 I do. I live on a golf course with good views and I don’t want to have my windows blackened out. If you do fine. My environment led me to a mini-led. And I’m glad I did. Looks great at nighttime too but I’m sure oled would be better in that situation. I might get one for my bedroom someday.
Definitely prefer the left king as the QN90 has a beaming effect on brighter subjects which I find unnatural. In other words, the OLED just seems much more naturally pleasing.
When it comes between these two it legitimately depends on personal preference and the environment you're putting them in. You can't lose with either of these panels.
Thanks KG for the overview of each tech's pros and cons, if we are honest, there is no perfect tv rather we need to pick the best fit for our individual tastes an use cases. For me, I am ok with a bit of small blooming for a overall brighter picture, just pick your choice and forget about the critical analysis about what's wrong and enjoy your choice for what is right. Enjoy your choice this year everyone!
Waiting for the qd oleds. It would be great if they are the best of both combined. Otherwise, this comparison makes it hard to choose. Obviously more detail on the dimmer oled and too bright sometimes, and I don't like missing stars. Great comprarison video as usual!
The question I have about these side-by-side OLED vs. Neo Qled comparisons is they don't match at all what I see with my own eyes when I go into Best Buy, like I did today, and compared a QN90A with an LG C1 Oled. In your video, the brightness of both TVs looks about the same. In real life though, it's not even close. The OLED appears much more dark/drab compared to the QN90a. It's a huge difference when you see them in person. Anyway, I would recommend comparing the OLED and Neo QLEDs in person before choosing between them. Based on this video, I would have bought a C2, but based on what I have seen in person, I would have gone with a Neo QLED. Granted, Best Buy is a bright environment, but even with that the difference in brightness is very noticeable IMO.
That's because the colors ARE better. Color volume, spectral composition, and color gamut are all better on the QLED. And it's easy to see in person. My CX looks dull and lifeless next to my Pioneer Kuro (Pro-101FD) and QN90B.
@@cyberedge881 I have QN90A when it's come to daylight movies and images yes it's great. But OLED stills the most perfect and natural TV, there are a lot LCD's problems that OLED doesn't have, blooming, ghosting, black smearing, higher response time. But OLED has probability to burn-in unfortunately. The next TV I buy will be OLED cause for gaming these LCDs problems that I mentioned really bother.
I went with the QN90B because I have my tv on for many hours a day either on TH-cam or Twitch. Not having to worry about burn in is a blessing. Blooming and blacks are a lot better than my previous x900h. Though blacks and contrast aren’t as good as an OLED, I’m overall happy with this purchase. 9/10 for me.
@@Jugglenaught1980 Warranty is certainly the way to go for OLED, I got one for my OLED monitor. With that said, my local BestBuy put up a S95B for a few months, granted its been running 247, but it's already got the Samsung Logo that pops up maybe once an hour for 10 seconds at a time burnt in already. Im glad I got the Qn90B because I leave my tv on for most of the day so I don't have to worry about it.
@@Jugglenaught1980 Hate to break it to you, but the only warranty that covers burn in that I'm aware of is Best Buy. Costco/Allstate warranty has confirmed multiple times they don't warrant burn-in.
I do think the OLED looks better overall and is more accurate, and I do hate the dirty screen effect many LEDs have, BUT the 75" QN90B is $1800 and the 77" LG C2 is $1000 more at $2800. The difference of $1000 is really substantial for these two TVs that are fairly close. Plus I keep my TVs for like a decade, and keeping that in mind I worry about burn-in issues down the road with OLED panels. Thank you for the video/comparison! I will try my best to use your affiliate links if I do end up purchasing the TV on one of those sites.
Bought my first oled tv and went with the LG C2. I had to see this and a mini led side by side in the store and just the contrast and inky blacks looked better to me. I have a dark room so the oled is beautiful overall. I am excited with the competition in the tv market and cant wait to see how much higher they can go!
Here I am minding my business & you drop this bomb of awesomeness with no warning. You’re like the Kook-aid man of tech bursting through the wall of TH-cam 😂
I bought 77" A80J Oled not knowing that my very bright room will make it impossible to watch TV during daytime glare/reflection problem, so Costco TV expert told me to return/replaced with 85" QN85A. Big difference, the quality of neoQled is almost the same as the Oled at night. At night all light out, OLED is the winner, but daytime neo Qled won handily. All my family member voted to keep the neo Qled, both on day and night watching TV (with side by side comparison). A80J was returned after 1 week of side by side comparison on regular TV program... I think neoQled is far better on watching regular TV program, even on 4K TV program I prefer Qled, also 300 bucks cheaper/8"bigger Qled.
@@user-oj8ss4zq3x I don't notice it, but during side by side comparison with lights out night watching, you will notice the blooming. Now after 2 months of watching I don't notice blooming on my 85" qn85a
That's an amazing comparison right there. Lots of people don't realize that overall QLED wins and this just confirms that, OLED say gets 100% score at night and 50% during the day on semi to bright room but QLED gets 80% at night and 95% during the day (80+95=175 over OLED which is about 150%) so overall QLED will win over OLED in a mixed room but in the dark room or basement with no window OLED wins. For for most people who need a good Tv for their family room which most likley is a mixed (semi bright, dark at night and semi bright or bright during the day) room QLED wins. I experienced the same situation too however I love Song OLED because of their colours, Google Tv (apps get updated constantly), layout of the OS and menus, only if Samsung can get Google Tv then in my opinion their would sell much more Tv.
@@ownerr8441 Yes, this is exactly what happen in my situation, qled is close enough to Oled at night with lights out, but the difference is I can see the image now during daytime. While before it give me a headache just to watch my oled 77" a80j, all I can see is reflection and glare.
Thank you so much for doing the comparison in this manner (post). It helped me in being able to discern the differences without worrying about the exposure nerfing the OLED brightness!
Great to hear you enjoyed it thats exactly what I was hoping for I am likely doing most of my side by sides in this manner going forward but sometimes I will mix it up and if I do ill mention the different methods I used like I did in this video.
Something to note with the QN90B (or QN90A) is that you can tweak the settings to make it look more like it is copying an OLED. If you set it too dark you start losing detail in certain scenes but it is impressive how close it can get. I love my QN90A for a room with a lot of light coming in.
@Marius Y I don't mess with the shadows. I make sure contrast enhancer is off, movie mode, and lower the brightness to about 20 if you are in a dark room.
That comparison was 🔥 I feel the same way with the QN800B. Both have strengths and weaknesses. At the end of the day, it's up to that person to pick the right TV for them!
I have yet to see a side by side comparison this well done. However, I have not seen a QLED v OLED video where the QLED doesn’t look better with the brightness and vibrancy making the OLED look dull. However, in real life I am very happy with the overall look, brightness, and infinite contrast of my A80j without the DSE and blooming of Qleds. Great times we are living in to have so many good choices. Different needs for different people. Great video
You’re not missing out. I had an LG C9 for 3 years, and I sold it and am trying out the Sony X95J. Now, the QN90a/QN90b gets brighter than my Sony, but I find myself actually turning down the brightness. I would only need the extra brightness if my room was soaked in sunlight. What I do notice though, is the blooming and how the screen looks a bit dirty, whereas OLED always looked clean. My problems with OLED were 24p stutter and the near black crush. But you don’t have that latter problem with your A80j 😛 P.S. That’s not to say I didn’t wish for more brightness at times on the OLED. HDR brightness was great, but SDR would come up a little short at times.
We're in the HDR era, and this is oleds downfall. Properly engineered mini led can make oleds redundant, and in future, micro led will make all but small led redundant.
@@TheKwod but its not there yet. so far oled is still better in black scene like fireworks or star but 2-3 more its probably gonna beat OLED hell i might even think the sony x95k can beat oled with its superior local dimming algorithm. i mean look at x90j its only have 24 local dimming its look amazing now imagine Sony Local dimming algorithm with 500-2000 zones
@@LeafyTheLeafBoy too much uncertainty with expensive oled imo. If one buys the 90b or 800/900b they'll get premium HDR HDTV with no concerns for weak brightness, fluctuating brightness and possible longevity issues. Dark room with just normal DVD/BD, no probs with new and expensive oled, but for everything else, 90b and 90b calibre led ftw.
I pre-ordered the Samsung 55" Class S95B OLED 4K Smart TV (2022) directly from Samsung. Samsung hasn't released these televisions to Best Buy and other retailers. I currently own a Samsung 2018 49 inch NU8000 Premium 4K UHD and a 2020 Samsung 32 inch 4K QLED televisions. The picture quality on both my Samsung televisions are fantastic. Let's face it, Samsung produce some of the best televisions along with Sony and LG. I will be using my Samsung S95B OLED to only watch cable Premium channels, sports channels, Netflix, and Amazon Prime movies. I usually look at the screen qualities in Best Buy, however, since Samsung hasn't released the S95B OLED to retailers, I haven't seen this Samsung OLED television in person.
I've watched some few comparisons on this kind of content but yours was the best and most simplified with that said, I prefer most of the images from the neo qled better.
For me Mini LED is the clear winner over OLED, at least in my use case, since I'll be using it as PC monitor. I won't have to worry about burn-in at all for many years to come.
thats cool but for me its the other way around, I both tvs and oled wins by far, qled is still lcd and has blooming when looking at dark scenes, it looks better in store but once you have it in your room you can notice its fault more easily, the only thing bad about oled is that it WILL have burn in eventually no matter how well you take care of it
The C2 as a PC monitor is by far better. 1ms, g-sync and freesync, as you will be close to the TV, the quality of the OLED is sensational. As for the burning in the new models, there is already enough technology to prevent this from happening, the risk would be for something static for many, many hours.
@@SER6I0 I agree, you're absolutely right, but it was just my personal decision to not have to deal with the risk of burn in, since organic LEDs will deteriorate by nature no matter what over time. I need something that will last for a really long time since it's a big investment for me!
No but you will have to worry about this, FROM DAY ONE; Backlight bleed, halo effect, dirty screen effect, corner glow, bad uniformity, smearing, bad viewing angles, should I go on? If you are using a LCD TV with Mini LED backlight for gaming, you are making a huge mistake too, because the backlighting control will pretty much get disabled in gaming mode, or you would see 200-300 ms input lag. This is the reason why LCDs with FALD and Mini LED backlighting loses ALOT image quality in gaming mode; It's pretty much working as an edge lit LED panel.
I have just switched out from a Samsung Series 9 Qled to an LG Oled CS for my pc. I have been using Qled for years now and all I can say is that the "ultra brights of a Qled" are nice at first but you quickly turn that down as it really isn't great for your eyes, it starts giving you serious eye straight and fatigue along with headaches. Switching to the Oled has been incredible and make no mistake it is bright! I mean its sitting on your desk about half a meter from your face (I have the 55") it's far too bright so I have turned the brightness down to 65% and it really is phenomenal as a pc screen. The true blacks and vivid colours you get because of those true blacks bring on an incredibly high contrast ratio. The colours seem more true to life and the lack of bloom when playing games at night or working is such a welcomed difference! I don't think I could go back to an LCD again after this. I did get the blacks on my Qled pretty damn close to an Oled but at the end of the day it's still LCD and Oled just looks allot better. The entire experience as a whole has been great and this is after several Qleds over several years of daily use as a professional 3d animator working on Film and games.
@@ExperimentalHero What do you think I just walk into a shop and buy a new TV each time without first selling the last one ??? I don't have a store room of TV's And even if I do buy another screen while having the old one, I re-package the old one in its original packaging and then sell it if I am happy with the new screen.
I chose the qn90b. Couldn't be happier. Some scenes I simply cannot see the details in the background with the oled because it is simply so dark. I value bright vibrant coolours and no screen burn over Contrast and viewing angles
@@broughton1835 I returned it haha. Bought the Asus pg42uq instead. Went through 2 units of the Samsungs both with dead pixels so I wasn't satisfied. Just unboxed the Asus today. Had to pre order it. So much better
Probably the first comparison I've seen where the LCD isn't overexposed or the OLED underexposed, very well done! Well, you can't really beat OLED, that's no surprise. The QN90B does well enough though, and burn in is a huge concern for me on a TV so expensive, so I'm leaning Samsung's side. I'll probably get the QN85B though, hope to see comparisons as this featuring it soon.
@@sundarchip think it depends on the OLED tbh. I had a C1 which was really bad with black crush, and the A80J I have now is way better, shows a lot more detail in shadows and darkness and doesn’t just crush it
@@jackdubs25 Actually if you get your C1 calibrated you can clean up the black crush quite a bit. LG is terrible with out of the box calibration, Sony actually tries to calibrate their tv's before shipping them out and is one of the best for out of box calibration.
LG has gotten so good at making panels, burn-in isn’t even an issue anymore. Even when people really freaked out about it, it still took months of max brightness screen on time 24/7 to cause any damage to the pixels. Countless people have tested it over the years, and burn-in has never been an issue if you know how to use a TV.
@@kendil22 You’re seriously saying that Sony spends ours of their time every day to have a precessional calibrator calibrate every single one of the thousands of TVs running down their production line to make sure each and every TV is perfectly calibrated when it gets to you? You’ve been chugging that Sony marketing Kool-Aid man.
Just received a C2 over the weekend. The C2 is not up to par with the Gen 5 processor showing no improvement - LG just leaves much to be desired concenning image sharpness. The image it produces is also just as dark as the C1 and in some cases the C2 seems darker. This might be a good gaming TV but its not good movie watching!
Maybe I am crazy but I consistently find there are more details on the OLED from these comparisons - maybe the cameras used to film this are blowing out details too much on the QLED but I find there is more detail in the image always on the OLED. @10:22 for instance I feel there is more detail in the King's collar and face on the OLED even though the QLED is of course brighter
I think some of the highlight push on QN90B may also appear more severe due to the booming when those highlights are against a dark backdrop. This was especially noticeable in the sunset images where the QN loses a lot of detail in favor of a bright blob on the screen.
For me what is an important distinction here is what the HDR specs actually are and what HDR is supposed to be. It’s supposed to be about specular. About the highlights. Traditional video is 0-100 nits of brightness. Anything in that range is easy but eventually specular hits that ceiling of 100 nits and gets cut off or dulled. Metal just never looked real like it does in real life. HDR now can increase that to 0-10,000 nits. That means there is so much more range above the 100 nits we could do before. HDR is all about the brightness. OLED is great but it’s great for SDR as well since it handles that 0-100 range very well. It’s how it handles everything in the 0-25 nit range that really makes it shine. Which benefits SDR just as much as it benefits HDR. Those dark nighttime scenes. Which you don’t even really need HDR for. A lot of the value range content that looks great on OLED will in fact be in the 0-100 nit range and not technically even be HDR. The issue I have with OLED is it at best handles up to 250 nits. In small amounts it might be able to do 800-1000 nits but that exponentially tapers off the more of the screen needs to be bright. It’s rather inconsistent because of this. One shot might be 800 nits and the next 250 nits depending on the percentage of the screen that needs to be bright. That’s why I think OLED is a great general TV but not a great HDR TV. I’m all about sustained performance and in the HDR pro market we tend to aim for a sustained 1000 nits right now as a standard. A lot of professional color grading HDR displays will in fact support a sustained 100% 1000 nits. The reason why the Apple XDR displays have 1600 nits is to have enough headroom to support sustained 1000 nits. It’s only when you can get to this at least 1000 sustained nits that you truly have a HDR experience. When some consumers feel like HDR is a scam it’s because unfortunately many “HDR” TVs are lucky to ever go past 250 nits sustained. That’s not really enough to ever be considered a decent HDR experience. Peak nits can help in some cases but reducing the specular we see to almost SDR levels to me isn’t HDR. Even when I’m grading HDR content if I tone map and limit to 250 nits it just doesn’t look all that great. It’s just not enough extra there to make HDR really show off what it’s truly capable of. The blooming does suck and it’s an unfortunate side effect of the technology choices we have at this time. At least it’s true HDR however. I have two Apple XDR displays and a sustained 1000 nits is amazing. I have a Samsung QLED and it gets very close to a sustained 1000 nits. I really want to love OLED but the sustained brightness frankly sucks and in my opinion really doesn’t fit the definition of HDR very well. If I mostly watched SDR content then OLED is absolutely the way to go but to me it’s just not a HDR display. I think this is why OLED is really popular with consumers. A lot of the content out there is SDR and in that situation OLED is about as good as it gets. For HDR it’s still better than what SDR could ever be even at 250 nits. It’s just not really true HDR and if the desire is to truly enjoy what HDR really has to offer than OLED is not the best choice. Having seen true HDR it’s really a game changer and 1000x more important than 8k or 3D could ever be. Someday we will have micro LED where essentially every dimming zone is a pixel. Right now QLED local dimming zones suck. The cheap LED TVs either have no dimming zones or something ridiculous where the screen is split into large chunks to light up at a time. That’s what causes the blooming. A 100x100 pixel region lit up at a time when a str may only be 1 pixel in size. The more local dimming zones a TV has the better it will get which will shrink the blooming. It will never be gone however until we get to micro LED. OLED may get brighter but it still really struggles with sustained performance. Both QLED and OLED are compromises right now. A pick your poison situation or pick the lesser of two evils. I don’t think either will ever be perfect. We need to get to the point where micro LED is affordable. Until that point we pick from two compromised solutions. At this time since I love true HDR I choose QLED and not OLED. OLED is a darn near perfect SDR TV but it’s not really HDR.
For those who like to use a large display as a computer monitor: the 50" QN90B can do 4K @ 144 hz. I was bummed to find out the 55" and up will only do 120 hz.
*GREAT VIDEO Personally I think the Oled looks a bit better due to the contrast and dark scenes, but even last years 83” C1 is still very expensive at $4500+ while the 85” QN90A only cost $3000. With that $1500 saving you can buy an Oled for your Bedroom which is exactly what I did a little over a year ago. Samsung Qled 75” for the living room and an LG Oled 65” for the bedroom.
Show me where you see better contrast on the OLED in this video. Because I own a CX, owned a C2 and then bought a QN90B and I can say that the black levels look nearly indistinguishable, but the QN90B gets a lot brighter. The OLEDs look constrained and dull in comparison. Colors also look so much more appealing on the QN90B. They look like my plasmas and CRTs, which is what I was looking for, since those have always been the best in terms of color reproduction.
I think when you do a side by side comparison, the brighter panel is always going to look instinctively better and pop more. However, when you see the darker tv in person, your pupils quickly adjust and then it becomes the same brightness. At that point it boils down to details, which the oled clearly wins in. There were some scenes were he said that 'the qled clearly looks better here', which I agreed with the first time I watched the video, but on the second time I actually thought the oled was better. This is because I looked into fine details and that there were areas that highlights and brightness had completely washed out details into white blotches. Game icons were no longer legible and object inside flames and lights were no visible in the whiteness. Also when I saw the sword with more saturated color highlight, I have to wonder if that color was really the film's intent or if the qled is just oversaturating the color. So do you want a tv that is more detailed and accurate (oled) or do you want a tv that tries its hardest to hit your dopamine receptors with bright lights and oversaturated colors? Theres probably a way to oversaturate your oled if you really want.
"your pupils quickly adjust and then it becomes the same brightness. At that point it boils down to details, which the oled clearly wins in." This is nonsense. Pupils don't adjut to light. And Oled doesn't win on details either. Neither does Qled oversaturate colors. Otherwise nice post LG fanboi.
@@markiv2942 i think i would call myself an oled fan, not an lg fan. Once i saw the picture quality and lack of blooming and display of a starfield etc on oled, i couldn't go back. I had to upgrade all my tvs to oleds. I literally just ordered Samsungs new oled. Lol
would be interesting to equalize peak light output on both...they might become even more similar. The real issue I am worried about is stutter...both of these sets have ultra fast response times which is great for games, but not great for movies.
@@0111maged i have tested a 43" qn90b now, i take back what i said, its the fastest VA panel ive ever seen, i cant see any Black smearing in games ive tested other va monitors before, The rtings review doesnt make justice to it.
I have the oled and watching TV became an amazing adventure every time. But when you go to the shop and see this two side by side you notice how much the qled is far brighter but, when you focus on the oled your eyes adjust to the low brightens and the watching experience is above amazing!
I think where the Neo Qled really shines is when you are watching tv in a not completely pitch black dark room. I have 4m high south facing windows in my living room so watching tv in the daytime on an oled panel would just really not work. Hence why I got the QN800A
i tend to think their ultra view layer mess the things, although the contrast of the QN90A south america version with ADS panel is fine and highly reactive but the ultra view layer makes things a bit weird, is not a bad system of course the miniled implementation and once you know to tame the settings looks nice
@@christianmarmol3230 saaame man oled game is boring from year to year, heatsink maybe the only direct improvement but other than that i'd prefer not to change any oled in 3-4 years
@@kuxii_youtube smart decision since there won't be much of a difference and I don't have an OLED yet , so the better future proof choice would be the C2 for me
This was a great analysis and nice seeing both of these TV's side by side as they're the two TV's I'm currently debating. I have to say that for my eyes, I think I prefer the QLED throughout most of this video. I think I just like a brighter screen and seeing things pop a bit more. I definitely can see more detail in some of the darker scenes with the OLED though. I kind of think it really depends on your situation, the room the TV will be in and what your eyes like most. I can say too that I owned a Panny Plasma for 5 or 6 years before replacing it with a Samsung LED and always felt like the Samsung blew away the Panny. So I do think I just prefer that brighter, more dynamic picture.
I have a feeling that watching video taken of both screens on a computer monitor is going to favor the strengths of the QLED more, since it can brighter which will be picked up on camera and somewhat evident in the video. You really can't see the strengths of an OLED by watching recorded video of it on any other type of screen. Also keep in mind if the screens are side by side (like in this video) the camera is probably adjusting its exposure based on the brightest light in the shot, which is probably going to make the OLED image look a little "underexposed", which is not how it would look in person.
I will say this, Dont judge by this here. Go and see both tvs Live and whatever your eyes like get that. I thot the same thing when I saw reviews ohh boi that qled looks better.... Once I saw the OLED in live I change my mind really quick :) There is a clear diffrence between both. To my eyes the OLED produces much more accurate colors. So I have 3 OLEDs home.
My feelings exactly, and I've been strongly leaning towards an OLED. HOWEVER, I'm viewing this video on a 7 year old 1080p computer monitor. I love the dark/black and depth of field I see on a real OLED unit compared to the brighter, more vivid QLED screens. But if a QLED can get tweaked downward to closely mimic the "blackness" achieved with OLED, well, there's a pretty big price difference between the two.
@@davidh9844 what would you get if they were priced exatly the same like in my case? i just can't decide... watching reviews and slowly losing my mind 😂
I have a feeling that the QN90B is bright indeed. However, that brightness takes away from real colors. For example, in the king comparison, the QN90B makes the gold look fake. LG OLED has darker images but the peak brightness for HDR content more than suffices. Essentially, the LG is not for a bright room setting. But I mean BRIGHT! I have the C2, and the c2 is so detailed that brightness is not a factor. Very well pleased and spoiled with this new experience.
Great comparsion. I have switched to Oled TV recently. The main difference to me is that the characters are much more realistic in dolby vision movies because of excellent black level. QLED Tv is good but it cannot give you that realistic feeling.
I prefer the C2. I can close the blinds if watching in daytime. We got use to the C1 and it's beside a double width window. It is dimmer than the LED TV we replaced. At night the HDR is sometimes too bright and I do notice the automatic brightness limiter. I would still be perfectly fine with the QN90B. When they are not side by side each TV looks amazing, which is how it will be in your home. The main reason I went with the OLED was because I'm a gamer and I liked that the C1 has 4 X HDMI 2.1 ports, which is now something the QN90B has. I think Micro LED will eventually be the best, but it won't be a home run. The smaller the panel, the smaller the pixels, and the smaller the pixels, the smaller the peak brightness. At a similar size, I feel Micro LED and OLED will have a similar level of brightness.
Both are beautiful but have minor flaws. Thing about OLED is it has to be seen in person. The infinite contrast and true blacks make do make impressive presentation, but you do miss some of those specular highlights that QLED does that is impressive too. Hopefully QD-OLED lives up to the hype until MicroLED is affordable.
I love how vivid the mini led qled is. It pops and the colors are so vivid. It also has amazing black levels that are almost on par with the oled. Samsungs new qd oled is the best of both worlds. Qled mixed with oled it’s perfect
@@whitegoodman7465 none of that is any issue at all. Maybe you just got a bad panel. I have no problem with any of that and no review mentions any of that as well
They are so close this year. For me it's gonna come down to price difference in the size that I'm after. The LG oled's in Australia are obscenely priced at RRP for the larger sizes.
the Oled matte. I miss the colors, the liveliness. oled was simply lacking in HDR content. Due to the organic panel, it is not capable of higher brightness. Color and HDR content are very important for PlayStation games. there is no question for me to buy a mini led!
I would rather put up with DSE that I probably won't notice 99% of the time than a burnt in ESPN and Pornhub logo in the corner of the screen. Thank you for this comparison!
That Qn90b looks so alive. It really and truly brings life to the image. If what the movie makers intended for the audience to see looks closer to the C2 then I definitely don't want it. Just looks to lifeless. Definitely excited about purchasing the Qn90b this year during the holiday sales.
@Bzake why would I "just crank the colors?" The LG wasn't meant to just "crank the colors." Samsung was created to have those punchy colors that are eye candy to the average consumer. Now with their processing this year, it seems as if they've gotten the little things right.
@@kwesiwilliams1188 i would rather get the qn85b. i dont think the extra cash for va panel is worth it and the qn85b is also very close to oled and have better viewing angle than qn90b
@@LeafyTheLeafBoy I understand, but I'll pass on the Qn85b. I think it's gonna be a great television for most, but for me, I'm gonna stick with the Qn90b.
Love a TV focused channel like yours, looking forward to your full review of the QN90B, especially with regards to gaming performance and Game Motion Plus performance this year for 30fps and 60fps games. 😁
Nothing, absolutely nothing "pulls" me out of a movie more than blooming. Every single time I see blooming on my Q80T I'm reminded that I have an Lcd screen.
I think what's clinching the QN90B for me is Q Symphony. The slightly saturated picture quality, and blooming I really won't notice, is a fair trade for superior sound quality
I think I watched an older video where you acknowledged you don't calibrate your TVs and just use the presets. That LG can certainly look a whole lot better than this. I agree, looking at it as is the Samsung is better. But once dialed in that LG can be an amazing looking TV and far better than we are seeing here. I don't know when the change happened but it seems that most people nowadays don't get their TVs calibrated and instead opt for the presets. I remember when I was younger and everyone who bought this level of TV was going that extra mile to get them calibrated or doing it themselves. Seriously people, it's not that hard and you don't need to spend a fortune to do it. Some test patterns and a blue filter will allow you to dial in your TV a heck of a lot better than any preset can.
I find the qn90a performs better than oled on dark games vs the C1. Not sure about the C2 and 90b. But I’m very dark games you can kinda mess with the settings on the Samsung to be able to see details in the dark very good, vs it being too dark to function on the oled without needing to equip a flashlight and getting sniped out by other players due to you running a light in game.
Good comparison but OLED had the brighter biased lighting behind it to give it an edge for better contrast.both TV's should've been compared with no biased lighting to get a better assessment on dark room performance
Ironically with good rear lighting the black levels of LCD perceptually clean up really well, a high end LCD panel can get very close to OLED quality. "Blooming" is not limited to LCD, it's also a totally natural effect of your eyes and you're never going to see perfectly clean borders on bright highlights (just to confirm I'm not crazy every once in a while I closely inspect my LG C1 to confirm that the panel is in fact not blooming and it is just my eyes).
I heard bias lighting doesn't do anything to improve contrast on oleds as it has an infinite contrast ratio so I'm not sure if it helped the oled in this comparison.
The LG OLED gives a cleaner, more natural image that is more 'cinematic'. With the kings comparison, the Samsung showed more saturation on the king making his skin-tone redder and thus not as realistic.
Also the oled is bette then the qled but with mini led qled it’s so good that the difference is very minor, plus the brightness is so much better and there’s no burn in risk at all. So I’d go with that.
Perfect blacks of OLED beat better peak brightness of Neo QLED. Most people don’t even set their tvs at max brightness so it’s not necessary. And iin dark scenes OLED preserves way more detail.
Great comparison man! This is exactly why I still prefer gaming on my q90t qled than on my lg OLED. Gaming in hdr on the qled is just on another level.
i also have a q90t and a c1 my qled is 75 and my oled is 65 there both amazing tva and certain content i prefer on my qled and other on my oled both amazing tvs tho
What is it about the QLED over the OLED? I had been loving my Q80T. It got broken... so I've been waiting and contemplating what tv to replace it with. C1, C2, or qn90b
@@ryancasha7201 brightness man. That hdr brightness. It just can't be overlooked. And is the main reason why I prefer gaming on the qled. Grant you like Gio Torres said, some scenes look better on the oled and vice versa but in general the better all rounder is definitely the qled imo. That's my preference though and many people find OLEDs to be bright enough but for me once youve experienced the brightness of a flagship qled, going OLED definitely takes some adapting. But people will say qled has blooming. Yes it does have slight blooming if you're really looking for it. You've had a q80t so you know that blooming is quite overblown. If you have the dough definitely look into the new qd OLED s95b from Samsung. It's an OLED with a brighter image. They're quite expensive so if that's too much I'd definitely look into the qn90b. C2 if you don't mind the lower brightness while having superior contrast and black levels. Don't worry about burn in though I use mine as a PC monitor and nothing whatsoever with full brightness!
Great comparison. There is a clarity and sharpness of image with the contrast the OLED reaches the QN90B can't match. That still pleases my eye more than pure brightness. I think I will be going the G2 or be checking out the Sony OLED's/QD-OLED.
This year Samsung display created their own OLED display QD-OLED (qd-oled offers do much more improvements than lg oled e.g - better color reproduction, brighter panles etc) which Sony and Samusng will use in their this year's models.
@@michagodek738 Well yes, but that’s all just marketing. Samsung can say that their new TVs will also make you breakfast and coffee in the morning, doesn’t mean they can actually do it.
@@jaycorbin5361 Dude! The Samsung s95b ist aaaaabsolutly stunning. Every youtuber says that a new age has begun... i saw it yesterday in real live: Wow! Just wow! Wow wow wow. No Video on TH-cam can reach this feeling what you see in real live. Wow, wow, wow! My C1 one from last year is going to be selled again! And i was really happy with it. The Samsung is a new dimension. Thank me later 😉
@@MrMichaelEsser Yeah I’m sure that Samsung can make their reds more red than red can be, doesn’t mean it’s accurate, or good by any means, actually means the opposite. Colors aren’t supposed to be overly bright and vibrant.
The comment section really tells me you guys need to think things through better. Let's start off with what you see in the video is NOT what you get. The camera isn't adjusted perfectly for both tv's. That's just a technical limitation and there's nothing KG can do about it when filming 2 tv's at the same time. If it was perfect he wouldn't need to speak during the review, just play the clips and let you watch. It's important to listen to his descriptions of what he's seeing instead of jumping to conclusions. Next, whatever you're using to watch the video's on is going screw with the picture as well. Someone watching on a LG CX is going to see things differently than someone using a TN panel pc monitor. TH-cam doesn't magically make your monitor show it exactly as it would in real life and negate the limitations of whatever monitor you use. Can you tell one is different than the other, sure. Is it accurate... not really. Viewing in a store is almost as bad as they crank the brightness and stick them in vivid mode because of the bright lights in the stores. Examples, hey it's too dark in the scene and you can't see that rock on the ground! Doesn't mean KG can't, it just means the camera didn't pick it up or your tv\monitor isn't rendering it. Same with some of the bright scene's. Pay more attention to what he's saying and less to what's on the screen! So to sum up, I'm not 100% happy with OLED or LED. Each run headlong into issues, but I find the less than true to life dimness of OLED more annoying than raised blacks on LED. In gaming I find the laggy backlight on the qn90a more annoying than either, right there with freaking abl. If the qn90b fixes the backlight in gaming mode I'll take a brighter screen. But I really need to see that backlight issue fixed otherwise LG C2 it is. I never notice halo issues unless it's REALLY bad. I'll be waiting for a dedicated qn90b and lg C2 gaming review before I decide. So pick what annoys you less, and be less concerned with telling everyone else they made the wrong decision because it's not what works for you. Fyi I have the qn90a and lg cx for pc monitor\gaming and sony a80j for tv and movies only. Some other reviewers told me C2 for gaming, but the more I watch the less I'm sold on it (based purely on my own preferences)
Nice video as always, is there any chance you can compare CX, C1,C2, some people said C1 is brighter than C2, because of your video about C1 dropping price i went to G1 55 inch $1,200 over C2 atleast i can be sure is a evo panel😎 more power to your channel.
I researched this alot. Brought home an oled tv, after two days, took it back and got the neo qled. Much happier. Oled is strictly for movie watching in my opinion.
What a great comparison you did Hope qd-oled brings little more brightness than conventional oled to up the hdr game in oled department. Can’t wait to see your review on qd-oled either sony or samsung
I couldn’t care less. Brightness really doesn’t matter much. As long as it’s bright enough to produce a pure white, it doesn’t matter whether it’s 800nit max, or 8000nit max.
We do our TV watching in a rather dark room so viewing dark scenes has always been a challenge. With the OLED eliminating the flash-lighting (think that's what it's called), that's a game changer. But the Q-Symphony is the X-factor that keeps me coming back to the QN90B. To have the TV audio in sync with the sound bar (which I'm also researching) looks like a awesome feature.
I think we're in the same situation. I wanted an OLED TV, but Samsung doesn't offer that option in Brazil. However, I have a great Samsung soundbar and I'd like to use the sync feature. I'm still between the C2 and the QN90B.
I bought an 2020 LG CX to replace a ten-year-old Sharp Aquos HD LED (the one that had the yellow LEDs, along with RBG). From day one, I was disappointed in the vibrancy of the OLED. The Sharp picture was much brighter and the colors popped. I liken it to the difference between flat paint and glossy paint. Except for the 4k component of the LG, I really thought the Sharp looked better. After two years, just a couple of weeks ago, the LG CX developed a thin black vertical line just right of center. Because I had purchased an insurance plan, after several pics and videos of the TV sent to the insurance company, I was approved for a replacement. I was able to choose my own replacement, as long as it was comparable to the LG. I chose the QN90B. I haven't received it yet, but am really looking forward to having a much brighter, more vibrant picture. We shall see.
I still have the QLED QN90B. I love it. The colors definitely do pop. It's much brighter than the OLED. I also don't notice blooming being much different on the QLED vs. the OLED. I use to see blooming on the OLED when there were white letters on a black background. But now I'm not thinking about or worrying about burn-in or the LEDs degrading over time. The other big difference between the two TVs is the sound. It is many times better on the Samsung. While I HAD to use a sound bar on the LG, and turn on closed captioning, just to be able to hear the dialog, I do neither with the Samsung. The voices are clear, the bass is great, the overall sound is just natural. I don't think about that either, like I always did with the LG. When I'm in the market for another TV, unless some new tech comes out, I'd definitely get a QLED.
Since I watch mostly at night/dark and don't have a QLED to A/B compare with, I'm happy with the picture of our OLED (CX). Really love how QLEDs have come such a long way... helps push tech forward.
I love how vivid the mini led qled is. It pops and the colors are so vivid. It also has amazing black levels that are almost on par with the oled. Samsungs new qd oled is the best of both worlds. Qled mixed with oled it’s perfect
Today I Bought C2 55 Inches Oled. For Clarity It Nowhere Near To The Latest Neo QLED. I Watched Same Content Side By Side. The Neo Qled Lacks Clarity, Dynamic Range and Also Depth.
Thank you for making this video. It must have been a lot of work. But the finished result is excellent. I've never seen an OLED vs LED comparison video done so well. You illustrate each TV's strengths and weaknesses very well. Great job! An important question: were these TVs calibrated or even adjusted at all, or are these "out of the box" in filmmaker or standard mode? To me, the OLED generally shows better depth, detail and richness. The LED is indeed brighter and has more "pop" than the OLED in some daylight outdoor scenes and the daylight racing game clips you showed. And also, as you said, in a number of clips the difference between the two is hard to discern. I'm not a gamer and primarily watch movies (but not comic book or superhero genres) and am an accuracy and filmmakers intent type of guy. Watching a good film in a dimly lit or dark room can really be an enjoyable.experience. I've never had an OLED TV and haven't bought a new TV in years. Been living with a 46" top of the line 1080p Samsung from 2009 (with fluorescent tube backlight!) which still runs perfectly. I think it's time to upgrade to a 65" 4K and I'm leaning toward the Sony A90K, A80K, or A80J. Thanks again for this very helpful video.
I love my C9 OLED but if your in a brighter room pick the QLED. It doesn’t do well in a bright room. So go to a Best Buy or tv place and look for yourself. I’m leaning toward the QN90B because of my bright living room.
@Radio K.A.O.S. I do think my Pioneer Pro-101FD looks better than my QN90B, but I also think both of them look much better than my LG CX. Motion, colors and brightness are all weak on the OLED.
@tech with kg I have q95t which I find really good in terms of color, contrast and brightness(took 2 -3 months to do perfect calibration for my liking). Is it worth to upgrade to qn95b . Just wanted your opininon on this
Amazing how OLED and LED trade blows like they do currently. LED wins with brightness/highlights, and OLED wins at pure black/contrast. Dirty screen can be a downside of LED, but OLED still has image retention/burn-in issues. Do you want your DSE now with and LED, or later on an OLED, especially where gaming is concerned?
@@user-pu2ro8ok3r that can be fixed also the qled system of phosphors makes the colors more saturated but only on the mode dynamic in personal or natural colors gets way muted
OLED does not have burnin issues at all. I have 3 in my house and zero burnin, at peak brightness. B9, C9 and G1. They have 1000+ hours of PC/Console usage on top of 2000+ hours of movies and series, and just static flow tv. Burn in has not really been an issue since 2018/2019 panels and there is built in safety in software to counter it too.
They don't trade blows at all, when you see them in person side by side. LCD is still garbage for dark room viewing and has tons of issues; Halo effect, backlight bleed, corner glow, smearing, dirty screen effect and I could go on. There is a reason for even Samsung Display abandons LCD now. They will focus on QD-OLED and AMOLED going forward, not LCD. LCD will only be used in their lower tier TVs and they will buy panels from 3rd party from now on, since Samsung Display don't make them anymore. Another huge issue with LCD, even the most expensive ones, is that they loose so much image quality in gaming mode, because the backlight (FALD or Mini LED backlight) can't be controlled fast enough to have acceptable input lag, so it mostly gets disabled instead. Huge loss in image quality, but it is needed to match OLED which keeps pretty much the same image quality in game mode because of self emitting pixels; No need for backlight control. This also means horrible HDR gaming experience on LCD, because HDR needs to ramp up brighness and without the dimming zones, it will look horrible in dark scenes, revealing backlight bleed like crazy, on par with edge lit LCDs.
I feel like brighter TVs win in the end, because if you want "perfect" black levels, you won't see anything in already dark dungeons playing games, what's the appeal really?, plus i feel like 90% of games are focused on bright and vibrant areas.
Despite the high contrast with a black background, an exaggerated glow can be seen on the fireworks. In terms of image quality and colors they seem quite similar to me. Although I have noticed that the Samsung tends to saturate the colors more in some situations. The biggest difference is the brightness in favor of the samsung but in general I would buy the OLED.
In this video I'm leaning toward the QN90B but in real life I may feel different. Would be curious if I'd like the G2 over the QN90B being the G2 supposed to be considerably brighter than the C2. Great comparison!
Thanks for the video. It certainly is enlightening seeing the two side-by-side. History dictates that the OLED won't last as long, especially without eventual permanent image retention. According to YT techies the CX & C1 both suffered burn-in when being used extensively as a PC monitor. Also, the reviews have said the Samsung can manage 144hz vs 120hz. The QN90B also has better screen reflection handling and text clarity is perfect vs the C2 OLED due to how the sub sampling is handled. However, off angle viewing will always be better with OLED & the new 'QOLED'. As a long term gaming or PC display the QLED is where the smart money lies. But as a typical TV/movie magnet then I'd go with the LG/OLED. I've been pulling my hair out over the two for a while now. I purchased a Samsung Odyssey G9 over the LG CX due to image retention concerns. I know things have gotten better since the CX but I'd be using the panel as a an editing display - retention is likely when the same window boxes are open 12+ hours a day. I like to game occasionally. If I wasn't an editor I'd more than likely go for the OLED. Thanks again for you effort.
The main problem on the QN90B is that the image is seem to be not natural when you compared it to the C2 or the C1, the light is bluring and the 3D effect is just amazing on the LG OLED !
PS5 and Xbox X fast moving sport games and high brightness.. This maybe will be interesting to see how new 2022 TV handle fast movement and high brightness
You buy QLED TV to mainly watch dark movies in pich black room? Then dont blame samsung for that. I never watch TV in pich black room and my TV is for general use over the bright days. So having no brightness issues compensates one is a year moment where i might miss few stars in a sky.
I will go S95B for the best of both worlds. Not much more expensive anyway. I like OLED but many of them tends to be too dim. I like vivid colors and brightness which S95B has.
They're dim, I mean most of them full screen brightness max is around 200 nits. And the HDR highlights on most oleds never really go above 700 nits, and having them max brightness a lot can cause the brightness to degrade over time and cause issues with screen burn. Qleds with a VA panel are very hard to beat, only thing oled has going for it is the inky blacks, most Qleds offer better colour volume and gamut, much better brightness, and if you get a decent model the blacks will still look amazing. QLED is the way to go if you want the best HDR image possible, oled if you want the best blacks but Medicare HDR.
I own q91a it has VA panel instead of IPS (in Europe). And blooming in hard scenes is noticeable, I mean like this fireworks you showed. But in all other scenes it is just awesome in terms of darkness. But to be sure, qled is far way behind oleds, but it does its job very well in dark scenes, especially this va panel. In other scenes I would pick qled always - brightness and HDR is mind blowing
I own a QN90B and an LG CX OLED and to me, in my dim room, the difference between the QLED and the OLED in black levels is minimal. What is very noticeable to me are the much better colors on the QLED, along with the superior motion and much higher brightness. The better viewing angles are the one thing I like about the OLED. Otherwise the QLED looks a lot better to me. It doesn't have the problem with black crush and making things look too dark. At least not to nearly the same degree
Never has led tvs been able to look as deep and rich next to an oled. Watch comparisons from 3 to 4 years ago and oked always and I mean always looked so much deeper and rich while led had bright saturated colors. Now it seems it can do everything! Very nice! Samsung really looks good with there white balance this year on the 90b also. Now I love what I've seen with the Samsung in its movie modes but not so much in its game mode. But you know what game mode on most tvs isn't as good so I'm sure buyers could deal with that and adjust settings to there liking lol see ehere rhe sony a90j comes in handy is in that sword scene the a90j I'd so intense in those type of scenes from how they boost it. The yellows and orbages cone through so so much better then lg oled tvs do. The lg processor doesn't seem to shine things up like Samsung and sony does. Like the blue cape again you can see the brightness on sony oled and the shine on the cape like Samsung. So I think that comes down to processing and algorithms on how the tvs read scenes not just brightness lol.
Strengths and weakness comparison should include bright room viewing. My OLED is now in my bedroom and my QN90B is in my living room because of just that. Your video is entirely in a very dark area which omits a very important part of viewing.
I agree the intent was to do a bright room side by side as well but I can’t make my room that bright, next year I have some ideas for this.
But he called that out in the entire video...
I was also looking for the same set up, 70+ oled in the room and 80+ mini led in the living room. Another reason for this is I want to get a big enough screen for both places. For the 70 inch range OLED has 77 inch which is 2 inch bigger than mini LED's 75, and for the 80+ range, mini led is usually 86 inch, where OLED is 83.
Who the he'll watches TV in a bright room or in sunlight and or curtains open WHO DOES THAT IM 50 WATCHED TV ALL MY LIFE first thing you do is CLOSE THE DARN CURTAINS
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I do. I live on a golf course with good views and I don’t want to have my windows blackened out. If you do fine.
My environment led me to a mini-led. And I’m glad I did. Looks great at nighttime too but I’m sure oled would be better in that situation. I might get one for my bedroom someday.
Definitely prefer the left king as the QN90 has a beaming effect on brighter subjects which I find unnatural. In other words, the OLED just seems much more naturally pleasing.
nah OLED looks dim and dull compare to the QN90B
Worse contrast,Worse blacks,blooming,dirty screen effect,No thanks,But i’d take a Sony anyday.
Everything looks dull is natural according to some people
Left king is the king 👑. The face color of the right king is to orange red. Looks like he has a few hours to long in a tanning bed...
@@Jza-GZa40k lol
When it comes between these two it legitimately depends on personal preference and the environment you're putting them in. You can't lose with either of these panels.
Thanks KG for the overview of each tech's pros and cons, if we are honest, there is no perfect tv rather we need to pick the best fit for our individual tastes an use cases. For me, I am ok with a bit of small blooming for a overall brighter picture, just pick your choice and forget about the critical analysis about what's wrong and enjoy your choice for what is right. Enjoy your choice this year everyone!
Thanks, and well said!
Agreed
Looking for another 2022 TV side by side? Here is QN85B vs QN90B th-cam.com/video/U8Ky_4DHRUM/w-d-xo.html
Waiting for the qd oleds. It would be great if they are the best of both combined. Otherwise, this comparison makes it hard to choose. Obviously more detail on the dimmer oled and too bright sometimes, and I don't like missing stars. Great comprarison video as usual!
The question I have about these side-by-side OLED vs. Neo Qled comparisons is they don't match at all what I see with my own eyes when I go into Best Buy, like I did today, and compared a QN90A with an LG C1 Oled. In your video, the brightness of both TVs looks about the same. In real life though, it's not even close. The OLED appears much more dark/drab compared to the QN90a. It's a huge difference when you see them in person. Anyway, I would recommend comparing the OLED and Neo QLEDs in person before choosing between them. Based on this video, I would have bought a C2, but based on what I have seen in person, I would have gone with a Neo QLED. Granted, Best Buy is a bright environment, but even with that the difference in brightness is very noticeable IMO.
Color accuracy doesn't play a role in tv veiwing?
That was a good Comparison, KG!
I am getting the QN90B delivered Tuesday!
Nice! Definitely stop by and let me know how your liking it its a really great TV for sure.
@@TechWithKG Awesome!
I prefer the vibrant colours of Neo QLED, just feels move "alive" , vibrant, and immersive. Absolutely love HDR movies and content.
That's because the colors ARE better. Color volume, spectral composition, and color gamut are all better on the QLED. And it's easy to see in person. My CX looks dull and lifeless next to my Pioneer Kuro (Pro-101FD) and QN90B.
@@cyberedge881 I have QN90A when it's come to daylight movies and images yes it's great. But OLED stills the most perfect and natural TV, there are a lot LCD's problems that OLED doesn't have, blooming, ghosting, black smearing, higher response time. But OLED has probability to burn-in unfortunately. The next TV I buy will be OLED cause for gaming these LCDs problems that I mentioned really bother.
I went with the QN90B because I have my tv on for many hours a day either on TH-cam or Twitch. Not having to worry about burn in is a blessing. Blooming and blacks are a lot better than my previous x900h. Though blacks and contrast aren’t as good as an OLED, I’m overall happy with this purchase. 9/10 for me.
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That's what warranties are for. Got my LG C2 from Costco and got 6 years of warranty for $120.
@@Jugglenaught1980 Warranty is certainly the way to go for OLED, I got one for my OLED monitor. With that said, my local BestBuy put up a S95B for a few months, granted its been running 247, but it's already got the Samsung Logo that pops up maybe once an hour for 10 seconds at a time burnt in already. Im glad I got the Qn90B because I leave my tv on for most of the day so I don't have to worry about it.
and lg for dark rooms.
@@Jugglenaught1980 Hate to break it to you, but the only warranty that covers burn in that I'm aware of is Best Buy. Costco/Allstate warranty has confirmed multiple times they don't warrant burn-in.
I do think the OLED looks better overall and is more accurate, and I do hate the dirty screen effect many LEDs have, BUT the 75" QN90B is $1800 and the 77" LG C2 is $1000 more at $2800. The difference of $1000 is really substantial for these two TVs that are fairly close. Plus I keep my TVs for like a decade, and keeping that in mind I worry about burn-in issues down the road with OLED panels.
Thank you for the video/comparison! I will try my best to use your affiliate links if I do end up purchasing the TV on one of those sites.
QN90B ( even with issues) is my favorite! Highlights makes things more interesting
Bought my first oled tv and went with the LG C2. I had to see this and a mini led side by side in the store and just the contrast and inky blacks looked better to me. I have a dark room so the oled is beautiful overall. I am excited with the competition in the tv market and cant wait to see how much higher they can go!
Dont worry about this its obvious been turned down a bit. The C2. Ive heard nothing but good about the C24LA plus it's won awards for 2022.
@@ENGBriseB yeah the C2 is popular for a reason and im satisfied with the performance. Im excited to see future LG oleds in the next 5 years!
OLED is king. Great choice.
@@targetrender9529 indeed! I can never go back to a non oled tv since being spoiled
Here I am minding my business & you drop this bomb of awesomeness with no warning. You’re like the Kook-aid man of tech bursting through the wall of TH-cam 😂
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🤣 I couldn't help myself after unboxing the C2, I get a little carried away.
@@TechWithKG Whatever you’re doing keep it up cause you’re killing it this year!
At 6:13 you zoomed into two different parts of the image to show the stones. What's the actual comparison here?
I bought 77" A80J Oled not knowing that my very bright room will make it impossible to watch TV during daytime glare/reflection problem, so Costco TV expert told me to return/replaced with 85" QN85A. Big difference, the quality of neoQled is almost the same as the Oled at night. At night all light out, OLED is the winner, but daytime neo Qled won handily. All my family member voted to keep the neo Qled, both on day and night watching TV (with side by side comparison). A80J was returned after 1 week of side by side comparison on regular TV program... I think neoQled is far better on watching regular TV program, even on 4K TV program I prefer Qled, also 300 bucks cheaper/8"bigger Qled.
Great example right here of environment and use case. Glad you ended up with a TV that fits.
I also bought the a80j 77 in. I’m really thinking of going for the qn85a or b. How’s the blooming on yours
@@user-oj8ss4zq3x I don't notice it, but during side by side comparison with lights out night watching, you will notice the blooming. Now after 2 months of watching I don't notice blooming on my 85" qn85a
That's an amazing comparison right there. Lots of people don't realize that overall QLED wins and this just confirms that, OLED say gets 100% score at night and 50% during the day on semi to bright room but QLED gets 80% at night and 95% during the day (80+95=175 over OLED which is about 150%) so overall QLED will win over OLED in a mixed room but in the dark room or basement with no window OLED wins.
For for most people who need a good Tv for their family room which most likley is a mixed (semi bright, dark at night and semi bright or bright during the day) room QLED wins. I experienced the same situation too however I love Song OLED because of their colours, Google Tv (apps get updated constantly), layout of the OS and menus, only if Samsung can get Google Tv then in my opinion their would sell much more Tv.
@@ownerr8441 Yes, this is exactly what happen in my situation, qled is close enough to Oled at night with lights out, but the difference is I can see the image now during daytime. While before it give me a headache just to watch my oled 77" a80j, all I can see is reflection and glare.
Thank you so much for doing the comparison in this manner (post). It helped me in being able to discern the differences without worrying about the exposure nerfing the OLED brightness!
Great to hear you enjoyed it thats exactly what I was hoping for I am likely doing most of my side by sides in this manner going forward but sometimes I will mix it up and if I do ill mention the different methods I used like I did in this video.
I have the Samsung Q90B which I bought last week and have to say for gaming it’s brilliant. I have no issues with it.
Something to note with the QN90B (or QN90A) is that you can tweak the settings to make it look more like it is copying an OLED. If you set it too dark you start losing detail in certain scenes but it is impressive how close it can get. I love my QN90A for a room with a lot of light coming in.
Shadow -3 it looks like OLED
Which settings specifically? Besides shadow
@Marius Y I don't mess with the shadows. I make sure contrast enhancer is off, movie mode, and lower the brightness to about 20 if you are in a dark room.
It will never look like OLED. It's always going to sacrifice something to try and replicate it.
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That comparison was 🔥 I feel the same way with the QN800B. Both have strengths and weaknesses. At the end of the day, it's up to that person to pick the right TV for them!
Thanks Max! Yup its all about the person's preferences at the end of the day with the LCD vs OLED debate.
@@TechWithKG is it true that oled like LG C2 if i pause the game for 5hours same picture will burn ?
@@TechWithKG if that true i will take Q90B because it is Qled
@@Xdeathslinger You could leave it on for a year and it will be okay. They've been making them since 2010 and also for Sony and Vizio the OLED panels.
I love how the qn90b looks
I love qled’s oversaturated vivid colours❤️😍
I have yet to see a side by side comparison this well done. However, I have not seen a QLED v OLED video where the QLED doesn’t look better with the brightness and vibrancy making the OLED look dull. However, in real life I am very happy with the overall look, brightness, and infinite contrast of my A80j without the DSE and blooming of Qleds. Great times we are living in to have so many good choices. Different needs for different people. Great video
You’re not missing out. I had an LG C9 for 3 years, and I sold it and am trying out the Sony X95J. Now, the QN90a/QN90b gets brighter than my Sony, but I find myself actually turning down the brightness. I would only need the extra brightness if my room was soaked in sunlight.
What I do notice though, is the blooming and how the screen looks a bit dirty, whereas OLED always looked clean. My problems with OLED were 24p stutter and the near black crush. But you don’t have that latter problem with your A80j 😛
P.S. That’s not to say I didn’t wish for more brightness at times on the OLED. HDR brightness was great, but SDR would come up a little short at times.
We're in the HDR era, and this is oleds downfall.
Properly engineered mini led can make oleds redundant, and in future, micro led will make all but small led redundant.
@@TheKwod but its not there yet. so far oled is still better in black scene like fireworks or star but 2-3 more its probably gonna beat OLED hell i might even think the sony x95k can beat oled with its superior local dimming algorithm. i mean look at x90j its only have 24 local dimming its look amazing now imagine Sony Local dimming algorithm with 500-2000 zones
@@LeafyTheLeafBoy too much uncertainty with expensive oled imo.
If one buys the 90b or 800/900b they'll get premium HDR HDTV with no concerns for weak brightness, fluctuating brightness and possible longevity issues.
Dark room with just normal DVD/BD, no probs with new and expensive oled, but for everything else, 90b and 90b calibre led ftw.
@@justsaying993 How do you like your X95J in comparison to the C9? I'm considering buying one to hold me over before larger QD-OLEDs come out.
As a Korean, I am proud that Samsung and LG are the best TVs in the world.
best video. finally someone who knows how to compare!
I pre-ordered the Samsung 55" Class S95B OLED 4K Smart TV (2022) directly from Samsung. Samsung hasn't released these televisions to Best Buy and other retailers. I currently own a Samsung 2018 49 inch NU8000 Premium 4K UHD and a 2020 Samsung 32 inch 4K QLED televisions. The picture quality on both my Samsung televisions are fantastic. Let's face it, Samsung produce some of the best televisions along with Sony and LG. I will be using my Samsung S95B OLED to only watch cable Premium channels, sports channels, Netflix, and Amazon Prime movies. I usually look at the screen qualities in Best Buy, however, since Samsung hasn't released the S95B OLED to retailers, I haven't seen this Samsung OLED television in person.
I've watched some few comparisons on this kind of content but yours was the best and most simplified with that said, I prefer most of the images from the neo qled better.
Thanks!!
For me Mini LED is the clear winner over OLED, at least in my use case, since I'll be using it as PC monitor. I won't have to worry about burn-in at all for many years to come.
thats cool but for me its the other way around, I both tvs and oled wins by far, qled is still lcd and has blooming when looking at dark scenes, it looks better in store but once you have it in your room you can notice its fault more easily, the only thing bad about oled is that it WILL have burn in eventually no matter how well you take care of it
The C2 as a PC monitor is by far better. 1ms, g-sync and freesync, as you will be close to the TV, the quality of the OLED is sensational. As for the burning in the new models, there is already enough technology to prevent this from happening, the risk would be for something static for many, many hours.
@@SER6I0 I agree, you're absolutely right, but it was just my personal decision to not have to deal with the risk of burn in, since organic LEDs will deteriorate by nature no matter what over time. I need something that will last for a really long time since it's a big investment for me!
@@rodrigobrambilla4782 This is really the big problem with OLED's panels.
No but you will have to worry about this, FROM DAY ONE; Backlight bleed, halo effect, dirty screen effect, corner glow, bad uniformity, smearing, bad viewing angles, should I go on? If you are using a LCD TV with Mini LED backlight for gaming, you are making a huge mistake too, because the backlighting control will pretty much get disabled in gaming mode, or you would see 200-300 ms input lag. This is the reason why LCDs with FALD and Mini LED backlighting loses ALOT image quality in gaming mode; It's pretty much working as an edge lit LED panel.
I have just switched out from a Samsung Series 9 Qled to an LG Oled CS for my pc. I have been using Qled for years now and all I can say is that the "ultra brights of a Qled" are nice at first but you quickly turn that down as it really isn't great for your eyes, it starts giving you serious eye straight and fatigue along with headaches. Switching to the Oled has been incredible and make no mistake it is bright! I mean its sitting on your desk about half a meter from your face (I have the 55") it's far too bright so I have turned the brightness down to 65% and it really is phenomenal as a pc screen. The true blacks and vivid colours you get because of those true blacks bring on an incredibly high contrast ratio. The colours seem more true to life and the lack of bloom when playing games at night or working is such a welcomed difference!
I don't think I could go back to an LCD again after this. I did get the blacks on my Qled pretty damn close to an Oled but at the end of the day it's still LCD and Oled just looks allot better. The entire experience as a whole has been great and this is after several Qleds over several years of daily use as a professional 3d animator working on Film and games.
OK but I don't make 6 figs a year
@@ExperimentalHero What do you think I just walk into a shop and buy a new TV each time without first selling the last one ??? I don't have a store room of TV's And even if I do buy another screen while having the old one, I re-package the old one in its original packaging and then sell it if I am happy with the new screen.
Have both of these units been calibrated or are they out-of-box?
The QN90B looks really saturated.
I agree, its like he pushade colors to max hahaah, if u play with the settings i bet it will beat the crap out of c2
@@gabrielel504 true
I chose the qn90b. Couldn't be happier. Some scenes I simply cannot see the details in the background with the oled because it is simply so dark. I value bright vibrant coolours and no screen burn over Contrast and viewing angles
Me too I bought the Q90B and love the tv.
The viewing angles are fine you legit have to be on the direct side to see the bloom severely
@@broughton1835 I returned it haha. Bought the Asus pg42uq instead. Went through 2 units of the Samsungs both with dead pixels so I wasn't satisfied. Just unboxed the Asus today. Had to pre order it. So much better
Probably the first comparison I've seen where the LCD isn't overexposed or the OLED underexposed, very well done! Well, you can't really beat OLED, that's no surprise. The QN90B does well enough though, and burn in is a huge concern for me on a TV so expensive, so I'm leaning Samsung's side. I'll probably get the QN85B though, hope to see comparisons as this featuring it soon.
OLED black crush is also a thing. You lose more detail in near black scenes with OLED.
@@sundarchip think it depends on the OLED tbh. I had a C1 which was really bad with black crush, and the A80J I have now is way better, shows a lot more detail in shadows and darkness and doesn’t just crush it
@@jackdubs25 Actually if you get your C1 calibrated you can clean up the black crush quite a bit. LG is terrible with out of the box calibration, Sony actually tries to calibrate their tv's before shipping them out and is one of the best for out of box calibration.
LG has gotten so good at making panels, burn-in isn’t even an issue anymore. Even when people really freaked out about it, it still took months of max brightness screen on time 24/7 to cause any damage to the pixels. Countless people have tested it over the years, and burn-in has never been an issue if you know how to use a TV.
@@kendil22 You’re seriously saying that Sony spends ours of their time every day to have a precessional calibrator calibrate every single one of the thousands of TVs running down their production line to make sure each and every TV is perfectly calibrated when it gets to you? You’ve been chugging that Sony marketing Kool-Aid man.
Just received a C2 over the weekend. The C2 is not up to par with the Gen 5 processor showing no improvement - LG just leaves much to be desired concenning image sharpness. The image it produces is also just as dark as the C1 and in some cases the C2 seems darker. This might be a good gaming TV but its not good movie watching!
It's probably more to do with the medium of the content you're watching rather than the TV itself.
Which tv or brand are you comparing it to which has better sharpness?
@Paul Bouchard ok
Maybe I am crazy but I consistently find there are more details on the OLED from these comparisons - maybe the cameras used to film this are blowing out details too much on the QLED but I find there is more detail in the image always on the OLED.
@10:22 for instance I feel there is more detail in the King's collar and face on the OLED even though the QLED is of course brighter
Its pretty reasonable since oled have perfect black level detail and contrast. And this is a dark scene which work perfectly on oled's favor
I think some of the highlight push on QN90B may also appear more severe due to the booming when those highlights are against a dark backdrop. This was especially noticeable in the sunset images where the QN loses a lot of detail in favor of a bright blob on the screen.
Turn the brightness down
For me what is an important distinction here is what the HDR specs actually are and what HDR is supposed to be. It’s supposed to be about specular. About the highlights. Traditional video is 0-100 nits of brightness. Anything in that range is easy but eventually specular hits that ceiling of 100 nits and gets cut off or dulled. Metal just never looked real like it does in real life.
HDR now can increase that to 0-10,000 nits. That means there is so much more range above the 100 nits we could do before. HDR is all about the brightness.
OLED is great but it’s great for SDR as well since it handles that 0-100 range very well. It’s how it handles everything in the 0-25 nit range that really makes it shine. Which benefits SDR just as much as it benefits HDR. Those dark nighttime scenes. Which you don’t even really need HDR for. A lot of the value range content that looks great on OLED will in fact be in the 0-100 nit range and not technically even be HDR.
The issue I have with OLED is it at best handles up to 250 nits. In small amounts it might be able to do 800-1000 nits but that exponentially tapers off the more of the screen needs to be bright. It’s rather inconsistent because of this. One shot might be 800 nits and the next 250 nits depending on the percentage of the screen that needs to be bright. That’s why I think OLED is a great general TV but not a great HDR TV.
I’m all about sustained performance and in the HDR pro market we tend to aim for a sustained 1000 nits right now as a standard. A lot of professional color grading HDR displays will in fact support a sustained 100% 1000 nits. The reason why the Apple XDR displays have 1600 nits is to have enough headroom to support sustained 1000 nits. It’s only when you can get to this at least 1000 sustained nits that you truly have a HDR experience.
When some consumers feel like HDR is a scam it’s because unfortunately many “HDR” TVs are lucky to ever go past 250 nits sustained. That’s not really enough to ever be considered a decent HDR experience. Peak nits can help in some cases but reducing the specular we see to almost SDR levels to me isn’t HDR. Even when I’m grading HDR content if I tone map and limit to 250 nits it just doesn’t look all that great. It’s just not enough extra there to make HDR really show off what it’s truly capable of.
The blooming does suck and it’s an unfortunate side effect of the technology choices we have at this time. At least it’s true HDR however. I have two Apple XDR displays and a sustained 1000 nits is amazing. I have a Samsung QLED and it gets very close to a sustained 1000 nits. I really want to love OLED but the sustained brightness frankly sucks and in my opinion really doesn’t fit the definition of HDR very well. If I mostly watched SDR content then OLED is absolutely the way to go but to me it’s just not a HDR display. I think this is why OLED is really popular with consumers. A lot of the content out there is SDR and in that situation OLED is about as good as it gets. For HDR it’s still better than what SDR could ever be even at 250 nits. It’s just not really true HDR and if the desire is to truly enjoy what HDR really has to offer than OLED is not the best choice.
Having seen true HDR it’s really a game changer and 1000x more important than 8k or 3D could ever be.
Someday we will have micro LED where essentially every dimming zone is a pixel. Right now QLED local dimming zones suck. The cheap LED TVs either have no dimming zones or something ridiculous where the screen is split into large chunks to light up at a time. That’s what causes the blooming. A 100x100 pixel region lit up at a time when a str may only be 1 pixel in size. The more local dimming zones a TV has the better it will get which will shrink the blooming. It will never be gone however until we get to micro LED.
OLED may get brighter but it still really struggles with sustained performance. Both QLED and OLED are compromises right now. A pick your poison situation or pick the lesser of two evils. I don’t think either will ever be perfect. We need to get to the point where micro LED is affordable. Until that point we pick from two compromised solutions. At this time since I love true HDR I choose QLED and not OLED. OLED is a darn near perfect SDR TV but it’s not really HDR.
For those who like to use a large display as a computer monitor: the 50" QN90B can do 4K @ 144 hz. I was bummed to find out the 55" and up will only do 120 hz.
43 inch can do 144hz too if you want an even smaller size for a sharper picture.
@@waydown2552 Didn't see the 43" on Samsungs website
you aint gonna 24hz, jeez.
Gysnc compatible?
@@briancody8663 It's up on the Samsung USA website now. Price is $1199.99
*GREAT VIDEO
Personally I think the Oled looks a bit better due to the contrast and dark scenes, but even last years 83” C1 is still very expensive at $4500+ while the 85” QN90A only cost $3000.
With that $1500 saving you can buy an Oled for your Bedroom which is exactly what I did a little over a year ago.
Samsung Qled 75” for the living room and an LG Oled 65” for the bedroom.
Show me where you see better contrast on the OLED in this video.
Because I own a CX, owned a C2 and then bought a QN90B and I can say that the black levels look nearly indistinguishable, but the QN90B gets a lot brighter. The OLEDs look constrained and dull in comparison. Colors also look so much more appealing on the QN90B. They look like my plasmas and CRTs, which is what I was looking for, since those have always been the best in terms of color reproduction.
I think when you do a side by side comparison, the brighter panel is always going to look instinctively better and pop more. However, when you see the darker tv in person, your pupils quickly adjust and then it becomes the same brightness. At that point it boils down to details, which the oled clearly wins in. There were some scenes were he said that 'the qled clearly looks better here', which I agreed with the first time I watched the video, but on the second time I actually thought the oled was better. This is because I looked into fine details and that there were areas that highlights and brightness had completely washed out details into white blotches. Game icons were no longer legible and object inside flames and lights were no visible in the whiteness. Also when I saw the sword with more saturated color highlight, I have to wonder if that color was really the film's intent or if the qled is just oversaturating the color. So do you want a tv that is more detailed and accurate (oled) or do you want a tv that tries its hardest to hit your dopamine receptors with bright lights and oversaturated colors? Theres probably a way to oversaturate your oled if you really want.
I don't believe the samsung oversaturates colour. I'm pretty sure the camera just lacks the dynamic range to actually capture the picture.
@Floyd1504 that’s a hair better than “dude trust me”
"your pupils quickly adjust and then it becomes the same brightness. At that point it boils down to details, which the oled clearly wins in."
This is nonsense. Pupils don't adjut to light. And Oled doesn't win on details either.
Neither does Qled oversaturate colors.
Otherwise nice post LG fanboi.
@@markiv2942 pupils do adjust to light, but it isn’t magic
@@markiv2942 i think i would call myself an oled fan, not an lg fan. Once i saw the picture quality and lack of blooming and display of a starfield etc on oled, i couldn't go back. I had to upgrade all my tvs to oleds. I literally just ordered Samsungs new oled. Lol
after seeing how close these 2 are... and with the risk of burn in of OLED... i dont know how someone doesnt go with the QN90 lol
would be interesting to equalize peak light output on both...they might become even more similar. The real issue I am worried about is stutter...both of these sets have ultra fast response times which is great for games, but not great for movies.
@@SrUnr3al 50 or 55 QNED OR 48 C1 Or 55 CX which is better
@@0111maged i have tested a 43" qn90b now, i take back what i said, its the fastest VA panel ive ever seen, i cant see any Black smearing in games ive tested other va monitors before, The rtings review doesnt make justice to it.
TV's made amazing progress in the last 4 years, and the next 4 look to be even more amazing.
100% agree
I have the oled and watching TV became an amazing adventure every time.
But when you go to the shop and see this two side by side you notice how much the qled is far brighter but, when you focus on the oled your eyes adjust to the low brightens and the watching experience is above amazing!
@Floyd1504 🧢
True blacks is a game changer to me. I cannot think of my self without an OLED especially if you live in a dark room.
I think where the Neo Qled really shines is when you are watching tv in a not completely pitch black dark room. I have 4m high south facing windows in my living room so watching tv in the daytime on an oled panel would just really not work. Hence why I got the QN800A
Samsung needs to get rid of the wide viewing angle layer if they want to get close to oleds contrast.
i tend to think their ultra view layer mess the things, although the contrast of the QN90A south america version with ADS panel is fine and highly reactive but the ultra view layer makes things a bit weird, is not a bad system of course the miniled implementation and once you know to tame the settings looks nice
nice side by side. but I think a review on the C2 first would of been better and then a comparison videos. Please do a C1 vs C2 comparison soon.
same tv minor changes, go for c1 til it lasts
@@kuxii_youtube definitely not minor to me. It's more of a improvement then the cx to the c1
@@christianmarmol3230 saaame man oled game is boring from year to year, heatsink maybe the only direct improvement but other than that i'd prefer not to change any oled in 3-4 years
@@kuxii_youtube smart decision since there won't be much of a difference and I don't have an OLED yet , so the better future proof choice would be the C2 for me
For those that bought any Brand simple OLED TV : Happy burn in. And happy power consumption.
This was a great analysis and nice seeing both of these TV's side by side as they're the two TV's I'm currently debating. I have to say that for my eyes, I think I prefer the QLED throughout most of this video. I think I just like a brighter screen and seeing things pop a bit more. I definitely can see more detail in some of the darker scenes with the OLED though. I kind of think it really depends on your situation, the room the TV will be in and what your eyes like most. I can say too that I owned a Panny Plasma for 5 or 6 years before replacing it with a Samsung LED and always felt like the Samsung blew away the Panny. So I do think I just prefer that brighter, more dynamic picture.
I have a feeling that watching video taken of both screens on a computer monitor is going to favor the strengths of the QLED more, since it can brighter which will be picked up on camera and somewhat evident in the video. You really can't see the strengths of an OLED by watching recorded video of it on any other type of screen. Also keep in mind if the screens are side by side (like in this video) the camera is probably adjusting its exposure based on the brightest light in the shot, which is probably going to make the OLED image look a little "underexposed", which is not how it would look in person.
I will say this, Dont judge by this here. Go and see both tvs Live and whatever your eyes like get that. I thot the same thing when I saw reviews ohh boi that qled looks better.... Once I saw the OLED in live I change my mind really quick :) There is a clear diffrence between both. To my eyes the OLED produces much more accurate colors. So I have 3 OLEDs home.
My feelings exactly, and I've been strongly leaning towards an OLED. HOWEVER, I'm viewing this video on a 7 year old 1080p computer monitor. I love the dark/black and depth of field I see on a real OLED unit compared to the brighter, more vivid QLED screens. But if a QLED can get tweaked downward to closely mimic the "blackness" achieved with OLED, well, there's a pretty big price difference between the two.
@@davidh9844 what would you get if they were priced exatly the same like in my case? i just can't decide... watching reviews and slowly losing my mind 😂
great comment
I have a feeling that the QN90B is bright indeed. However, that brightness takes away from real colors. For example, in the king comparison, the QN90B makes the gold look fake. LG OLED has darker images but the peak brightness for HDR content more than suffices. Essentially, the LG is not for a bright room setting. But I mean BRIGHT! I have the C2, and the c2 is so detailed that brightness is not a factor. Very well pleased and spoiled with this new experience.
Great comparsion. I have switched to Oled TV recently. The main difference to me is that the characters are much more realistic in dolby vision movies because of excellent black level.
QLED Tv is good but it cannot give you that realistic feeling.
I prefer the C2. I can close the blinds if watching in daytime. We got use to the C1 and it's beside a double width window. It is dimmer than the LED TV we replaced. At night the HDR is sometimes too bright and I do notice the automatic brightness limiter.
I would still be perfectly fine with the QN90B. When they are not side by side each TV looks amazing, which is how it will be in your home. The main reason I went with the OLED was because I'm a gamer and I liked that the C1 has 4 X HDMI 2.1 ports, which is now something the QN90B has.
I think Micro LED will eventually be the best, but it won't be a home run. The smaller the panel, the smaller the pixels, and the smaller the pixels, the smaller the peak brightness. At a similar size, I feel Micro LED and OLED will have a similar level of brightness.
Solution: you will buy c2
Your neighbour will buy neo qled🤣
Both are beautiful but have minor flaws. Thing about OLED is it has to be seen in person. The infinite contrast and true blacks make do make impressive presentation, but you do miss some of those specular highlights that QLED does that is impressive too. Hopefully QD-OLED lives up to the hype until MicroLED is affordable.
Well said!
The highlights are pointless without the pop of true black though.
I love how vivid the mini led qled is. It pops and the colors are so vivid. It also has amazing black levels that are almost on par with the oled. Samsungs new qd oled is the best of both worlds. Qled mixed with oled it’s perfect
@@darkhaven9119 qd oled has its issues.. Text clarity, color fringing, etc.. All because of the new pixel layout.
@@whitegoodman7465 none of that is any issue at all. Maybe you just got a bad panel. I have no problem with any of that and no review mentions any of that as well
Similar color settings would have done wonders for this video!
They are so close this year. For me it's gonna come down to price difference in the size that I'm after. The LG oled's in Australia are obscenely priced at RRP for the larger sizes.
did you end up buying anything? im really trying to find something that isnt irresponsibly expensive here in aus
@@FJaypewpew I feel you man. I ended up pulling the trigger on a 77 inch C1 a couple of months back for $4500. Really happy with it. Size is king.
the Oled matte. I miss the colors, the liveliness. oled was simply lacking in HDR content. Due to the organic panel, it is not capable of higher brightness. Color and HDR content are very important for PlayStation games. there is no question for me to buy a mini led!
I would rather put up with DSE that I probably won't notice 99% of the time than a burnt in ESPN and Pornhub logo in the corner of the screen.
Thank you for this comparison!
That Qn90b looks so alive. It really and truly brings life to the image. If what the movie makers intended for the audience to see looks closer to the C2 then I definitely don't want it. Just looks to lifeless. Definitely excited about purchasing the Qn90b this year during the holiday sales.
@Bzake why would I "just crank the colors?" The LG wasn't meant to just "crank the colors." Samsung was created to have those punchy colors that are eye candy to the average consumer. Now with their processing this year, it seems as if they've gotten the little things right.
@@kwesiwilliams1188 i would rather get the qn85b. i dont think the extra cash for va panel is worth it and the qn85b is also very close to oled and have better viewing angle than qn90b
look at them in real life before making this decision
@@LeafyTheLeafBoy I understand, but I'll pass on the Qn85b. I think it's gonna be a great television for most, but for me, I'm gonna stick with the Qn90b.
@@ShadowLady1 perhaps I should, but that would make things that much more complicated. Lol!!!!
Love a TV focused channel like yours, looking forward to your full review of the QN90B, especially with regards to gaming performance and Game Motion Plus performance this year for 30fps and 60fps games. 😁
Thanks!! Definitely got a GMP video in the works.
@@TechWithKG Awesome dude! Looking forward to that video! 😁👍
Nothing, absolutely nothing "pulls" me out of a movie more than blooming. Every single time I see blooming on my Q80T I'm reminded that I have an Lcd screen.
I think what's clinching the QN90B for me is Q Symphony. The slightly saturated picture quality, and blooming I really won't notice, is a fair trade for superior sound quality
pair it to a samsung dolby atmos sounbar like q990b, its astounding! I've listened to it, and it's a massive USP over a tv with no q symphony.
I think I watched an older video where you acknowledged you don't calibrate your TVs and just use the presets. That LG can certainly look a whole lot better than this. I agree, looking at it as is the Samsung is better. But once dialed in that LG can be an amazing looking TV and far better than we are seeing here.
I don't know when the change happened but it seems that most people nowadays don't get their TVs calibrated and instead opt for the presets. I remember when I was younger and everyone who bought this level of TV was going that extra mile to get them calibrated or doing it themselves. Seriously people, it's not that hard and you don't need to spend a fortune to do it. Some test patterns and a blue filter will allow you to dial in your TV a heck of a lot better than any preset can.
I find the qn90a performs better than oled on dark games vs the C1. Not sure about the C2 and 90b. But I’m very dark games you can kinda mess with the settings on the Samsung to be able to see details in the dark very good, vs it being too dark to function on the oled without needing to equip a flashlight and getting sniped out by other players due to you running a light in game.
you can adjust the dark and light areas in game optimizer on the LG as well.
LG G2 VS SAMSUNG QN90B would be a proper match in cost. And G2 is brighter than C2! C2 is certainly better value for money. Cheers
Good comparison but OLED had the brighter biased lighting behind it to give it an edge for better contrast.both TV's should've been compared with no biased lighting to get a better assessment on dark room performance
Ironically with good rear lighting the black levels of LCD perceptually clean up really well, a high end LCD panel can get very close to OLED quality.
"Blooming" is not limited to LCD, it's also a totally natural effect of your eyes and you're never going to see perfectly clean borders on bright highlights (just to confirm I'm not crazy every once in a while I closely inspect my LG C1 to confirm that the panel is in fact not blooming and it is just my eyes).
I heard bias lighting doesn't do anything to improve contrast on oleds as it has an infinite contrast ratio so I'm not sure if it helped the oled in this comparison.
Love your videos, totally unbiased and great observations. Thank you.
The LG OLED gives a cleaner, more natural image that is more 'cinematic'. With the kings comparison, the Samsung showed more saturation on the king making his skin-tone redder and thus not as realistic.
Also the oled is bette then the qled but with mini led qled it’s so good that the difference is very minor, plus the brightness is so much better and there’s no burn in risk at all. So I’d go with that.
Perfect blacks of OLED beat better peak brightness of Neo QLED. Most people don’t even set their tvs at max brightness so it’s not necessary. And iin dark scenes OLED preserves way more detail.
Great comparison man! This is exactly why I still prefer gaming on my q90t qled than on my lg OLED. Gaming in hdr on the qled is just on another level.
i also have a q90t and a c1
my qled is 75 and my oled is 65 there both amazing tva and certain content i prefer on my qled and other on my oled
both amazing tvs tho
What is it about the QLED over the OLED? I had been loving my Q80T. It got broken... so I've been waiting and contemplating what tv to replace it with. C1, C2, or qn90b
@@ryancasha7201 brightness man. That hdr brightness. It just can't be overlooked. And is the main reason why I prefer gaming on the qled. Grant you like Gio Torres said, some scenes look better on the oled and vice versa but in general the better all rounder is definitely the qled imo. That's my preference though and many people find OLEDs to be bright enough but for me once youve experienced the brightness of a flagship qled, going OLED definitely takes some adapting.
But people will say qled has blooming. Yes it does have slight blooming if you're really looking for it. You've had a q80t so you know that blooming is quite overblown.
If you have the dough definitely look into the new qd OLED s95b from Samsung. It's an OLED with a brighter image. They're quite expensive so if that's too much I'd definitely look into the qn90b. C2 if you don't mind the lower brightness while having superior contrast and black levels. Don't worry about burn in though I use mine as a PC monitor and nothing whatsoever with full brightness!
C2 seems too dark in dark scenes... solid full black, on qled you can see shades
I saw this in real time as well, C2 tends to crush shadows.
Great comparison. There is a clarity and sharpness of image with the contrast the OLED reaches the QN90B can't match. That still pleases my eye more than pure brightness. I think I will be going the G2 or be checking out the Sony OLED's/QD-OLED.
Sony, Phillips and Samsung are taking LG displays.. they are more able to manage their own displays, choose LG if you search the n1
This year Samsung display created their own OLED display QD-OLED (qd-oled offers do much more improvements than lg oled e.g - better color reproduction, brighter panles etc) which Sony and Samusng will use in their this year's models.
@@michagodek738 Well yes, but that’s all just marketing. Samsung can say that their new TVs will also make you breakfast and coffee in the morning, doesn’t mean they can actually do it.
@@jaycorbin5361 Dude! The Samsung s95b ist aaaaabsolutly stunning. Every youtuber says that a new age has begun... i saw it yesterday in real live: Wow! Just wow! Wow wow wow. No Video on TH-cam can reach this feeling what you see in real live. Wow, wow, wow!
My C1 one from last year is going to be selled again! And i was really happy with it. The Samsung is a new dimension. Thank me later 😉
@@MrMichaelEsser Yeah I’m sure that Samsung can make their reds more red than red can be, doesn’t mean it’s accurate, or good by any means, actually means the opposite. Colors aren’t supposed to be overly bright and vibrant.
The comment section really tells me you guys need to think things through better. Let's start off with what you see in the video is NOT what you get. The camera isn't adjusted perfectly for both tv's. That's just a technical limitation and there's nothing KG can do about it when filming 2 tv's at the same time. If it was perfect he wouldn't need to speak during the review, just play the clips and let you watch. It's important to listen to his descriptions of what he's seeing instead of jumping to conclusions. Next, whatever you're using to watch the video's on is going screw with the picture as well. Someone watching on a LG CX is going to see things differently than someone using a TN panel pc monitor. TH-cam doesn't magically make your monitor show it exactly as it would in real life and negate the limitations of whatever monitor you use. Can you tell one is different than the other, sure. Is it accurate... not really. Viewing in a store is almost as bad as they crank the brightness and stick them in vivid mode because of the bright lights in the stores. Examples, hey it's too dark in the scene and you can't see that rock on the ground! Doesn't mean KG can't, it just means the camera didn't pick it up or your tv\monitor isn't rendering it. Same with some of the bright scene's. Pay more attention to what he's saying and less to what's on the screen!
So to sum up, I'm not 100% happy with OLED or LED. Each run headlong into issues, but I find the less than true to life dimness of OLED more annoying than raised blacks on LED. In gaming I find the laggy backlight on the qn90a more annoying than either, right there with freaking abl. If the qn90b fixes the backlight in gaming mode I'll take a brighter screen. But I really need to see that backlight issue fixed otherwise LG C2 it is. I never notice halo issues unless it's REALLY bad. I'll be waiting for a dedicated qn90b and lg C2 gaming review before I decide. So pick what annoys you less, and be less concerned with telling everyone else they made the wrong decision because it's not what works for you. Fyi I have the qn90a and lg cx for pc monitor\gaming and sony a80j for tv and movies only. Some other reviewers told me C2 for gaming, but the more I watch the less I'm sold on it (based purely on my own preferences)
Nice video as always, is there any chance you can compare CX, C1,C2, some people said C1 is brighter than C2, because of your video about C1 dropping price i went to G1 55 inch $1,200 over C2 atleast i can be sure is a evo panel😎 more power to your channel.
Just got a 55 C2 for $1190 after tax. An ebay coupon for early black Friday. C1 55s sold out VERY quickly
I researched this alot. Brought home an oled tv, after two days, took it back and got the neo qled. Much happier. Oled is strictly for movie watching in my opinion.
Why?
What a great comparison you did
Hope qd-oled brings little more brightness than conventional oled to up the hdr game in oled department. Can’t wait to see your review on qd-oled either sony or samsung
I couldn’t care less. Brightness really doesn’t matter much. As long as it’s bright enough to produce a pure white, it doesn’t matter whether it’s 800nit max, or 8000nit max.
@@jaycorbin5361 Take that back now. Do it 🤨😪🙁
@@incogspectator3042 Nope.
We do our TV watching in a rather dark room so viewing dark scenes has always been a challenge. With the OLED eliminating the flash-lighting (think that's what it's called), that's a game changer. But the Q-Symphony is the X-factor that keeps me coming back to the QN90B. To have the TV audio in sync with the sound bar (which I'm also researching) looks like a awesome feature.
I think we're in the same situation. I wanted an OLED TV, but Samsung doesn't offer that option in Brazil. However, I have a great Samsung soundbar and I'd like to use the sync feature. I'm still between the C2 and the QN90B.
can't wait to see the reviews on the QD OLEDs.....wonder if that tech will help bridge the gap between brightness and black detail
same I can't wait to get my hands on the QD OLED!
I bought an 2020 LG CX to replace a ten-year-old Sharp Aquos HD LED (the one that had the yellow LEDs, along with RBG). From day one, I was disappointed in the vibrancy of the OLED. The Sharp picture was much brighter and the colors popped. I liken it to the difference between flat paint and glossy paint. Except for the 4k component of the LG, I really thought the Sharp looked better.
After two years, just a couple of weeks ago, the LG CX developed a thin black vertical line just right of center. Because I had purchased an insurance plan, after several pics and videos of the TV sent to the insurance company, I was approved for a replacement. I was able to choose my own replacement, as long as it was comparable to the LG. I chose the QN90B. I haven't received it yet, but am really looking forward to having a much brighter, more vibrant picture. We shall see.
What were your thoughts on the Qn90b? & Did you still keep it?
I still have the QLED QN90B. I love it. The colors definitely do pop. It's much brighter than the OLED.
I also don't notice blooming being much different on the QLED vs. the OLED. I use to see blooming on the OLED when there were white letters on a black background.
But now I'm not thinking about or worrying about burn-in or the LEDs degrading over time.
The other big difference between the two TVs is the sound. It is many times better on the Samsung. While I HAD to use a sound bar on the LG, and turn on closed captioning, just to be able to hear the dialog, I do neither with the Samsung. The voices are clear, the bass is great, the overall sound is just natural. I don't think about that either, like I always did with the LG.
When I'm in the market for another TV, unless some new tech comes out, I'd definitely get a QLED.
Since I watch mostly at night/dark and don't have a QLED to A/B compare with, I'm happy with the picture of our OLED (CX).
Really love how QLEDs have come such a long way... helps push tech forward.
I love how vivid the mini led qled is. It pops and the colors are so vivid. It also has amazing black levels that are almost on par with the oled. Samsungs new qd oled is the best of both worlds. Qled mixed with oled it’s perfect
Today I Bought C2 55 Inches Oled. For Clarity It Nowhere Near To The Latest Neo QLED. I Watched Same Content Side By Side. The Neo Qled Lacks Clarity, Dynamic Range and Also Depth.
Thank you for making this video. It must have been a lot of work. But the finished result is excellent. I've never seen an OLED vs LED comparison video done so well. You illustrate each TV's strengths and weaknesses very well. Great job! An important question: were these TVs calibrated or even adjusted at all, or are these "out of the box" in filmmaker or standard mode?
To me, the OLED generally shows better depth, detail and richness. The LED is indeed brighter and has more "pop" than the OLED in some daylight outdoor scenes and the daylight racing game clips you showed. And also, as you said, in a number of clips the difference between the two is hard to discern.
I'm not a gamer and primarily watch movies (but not comic book or superhero genres) and am an accuracy and filmmakers intent type of guy. Watching a good film in a dimly lit or dark room can really be an enjoyable.experience. I've never had an OLED TV and haven't bought a new TV in years. Been living with a 46" top of the line 1080p Samsung from 2009 (with fluorescent tube backlight!) which still runs perfectly. I think it's time to upgrade to a 65" 4K and I'm leaning toward the Sony A90K, A80K, or A80J. Thanks again for this very helpful video.
Sony a90j is the top 3 TV in 2021. Most people say for strictly movies it's number 1.
Me also
Looking for 65a80k
I love my C9 OLED but if your in a brighter room pick the QLED. It doesn’t do well in a bright room. So go to a Best Buy or tv place and look for yourself. I’m leaning toward the QN90B because of my bright living room.
@Radio K.A.O.S.
I do think my Pioneer Pro-101FD looks better than my QN90B, but I also think both of them look much better than my LG CX. Motion, colors and brightness are all weak on the OLED.
@tech with kg I have q95t which I find really good in terms of color, contrast and brightness(took 2 -3 months to do perfect calibration for my liking). Is it worth to upgrade to qn95b . Just wanted your opininon on this
I prefer the right side king qn90b picture, it just looks better to me
Very helpful video. Thank you, I have decided on Samsung QN90B
Amazing how OLED and LED trade blows like they do currently. LED wins with brightness/highlights, and OLED wins at pure black/contrast. Dirty screen can be a downside of LED, but OLED still has image retention/burn-in issues. Do you want your DSE now with and LED, or later on an OLED, especially where gaming is concerned?
Samsung qn90 has oversatured colors.
@@user-pu2ro8ok3r that can be fixed also the qled system of phosphors makes the colors more saturated but only on the mode dynamic in personal or natural colors gets way muted
OLED does not have burnin issues at all. I have 3 in my house and zero burnin, at peak brightness. B9, C9 and G1. They have 1000+ hours of PC/Console usage on top of 2000+ hours of movies and series, and just static flow tv. Burn in has not really been an issue since 2018/2019 panels and there is built in safety in software to counter it too.
@@Dr.WhetFarts our 2016 LG OLED got it. Probably better by now though.
They don't trade blows at all, when you see them in person side by side. LCD is still garbage for dark room viewing and has tons of issues; Halo effect, backlight bleed, corner glow, smearing, dirty screen effect and I could go on. There is a reason for even Samsung Display abandons LCD now. They will focus on QD-OLED and AMOLED going forward, not LCD. LCD will only be used in their lower tier TVs and they will buy panels from 3rd party from now on, since Samsung Display don't make them anymore. Another huge issue with LCD, even the most expensive ones, is that they loose so much image quality in gaming mode, because the backlight (FALD or Mini LED backlight) can't be controlled fast enough to have acceptable input lag, so it mostly gets disabled instead. Huge loss in image quality, but it is needed to match OLED which keeps pretty much the same image quality in game mode because of self emitting pixels; No need for backlight control. This also means horrible HDR gaming experience on LCD, because HDR needs to ramp up brighness and without the dimming zones, it will look horrible in dark scenes, revealing backlight bleed like crazy, on par with edge lit LCDs.
I feel like brighter TVs win in the end, because if you want "perfect" black levels, you won't see anything in already dark dungeons playing games, what's the appeal really?, plus i feel like 90% of games are focused on bright and vibrant areas.
Despite the high contrast with a black background, an exaggerated glow can be seen on the fireworks. In terms of image quality and colors they seem quite similar to me. Although I have noticed that the Samsung tends to saturate the colors more in some situations. The biggest difference is the brightness in favor of the samsung but in general I would buy the OLED.
Its because he shot the scence on side view... if you view the tv from the front, the scene is pretty nice!.
Well done, a decent review with very good comparisons.
In this video I'm leaning toward the QN90B but in real life I may feel different. Would be curious if I'd like the G2 over the QN90B being the G2 supposed to be considerably brighter than the C2. Great comparison!
Isn't the g2 a lot more expensive than the c2 or qn90 though?
@@pippifpv Not a whole lot more but money is not an issue for me. I just want to the best 4K TV there is.
@@carlcat But this video is abort 4k tv at this pricerange. But if money is out of the discussion, I guess i would go with the g2 too.
@@pippifpv I really want A QD OLED in 77" but don't want to wait another year for it to come out.
@@carlcat Yeah, don't we all? My budget tops at a 65"c1. But i'm happy with the deal i got.
QLED for me. Don’t want to have to wait for night time for my tv to show its potential.
Thanks for the video. It certainly is enlightening seeing the two side-by-side. History dictates that the OLED won't last as long, especially without eventual permanent image retention. According to YT techies the CX & C1 both suffered burn-in when being used extensively as a PC monitor. Also, the reviews have said the Samsung can manage 144hz vs 120hz. The QN90B also has better screen reflection handling and text clarity is perfect vs the C2 OLED due to how the sub sampling is handled. However, off angle viewing will always be better with OLED & the new 'QOLED'.
As a long term gaming or PC display the QLED is where the smart money lies. But as a typical TV/movie magnet then I'd go with the LG/OLED.
I've been pulling my hair out over the two for a while now. I purchased a Samsung Odyssey G9 over the LG CX due to image retention concerns. I know things have gotten better since the CX but I'd be using the panel as a an editing display - retention is likely when the same window boxes are open 12+ hours a day. I like to game occasionally. If I wasn't an editor I'd more than likely go for the OLED.
Thanks again for you effort.
The main problem on the QN90B is that the image is seem to be not natural when you compared it to the C2 or the C1, the light is bluring and the 3D effect is just amazing on the LG OLED !
PS5 and Xbox X fast moving sport games and high brightness.. This maybe will be interesting to see how new 2022 TV handle fast movement and high brightness
2:14 crush details QN90B
Thank you Samsung
From 2018 models not resolve this issue 4 years later
You buy QLED TV to mainly watch dark movies in pich black room? Then dont blame samsung for that. I never watch TV in pich black room and my TV is for general use over the bright days. So having no brightness issues compensates one is a year moment where i might miss few stars in a sky.
@@BDMRá He's a troll,he sh^ts on every Samsung video..
I will go S95B for the best of both worlds. Not much more expensive anyway. I like OLED but many of them tends to be too dim. I like vivid colors and brightness which S95B has.
They're dim, I mean most of them full screen brightness max is around 200 nits. And the HDR highlights on most oleds never really go above 700 nits, and having them max brightness a lot can cause the brightness to degrade over time and cause issues with screen burn. Qleds with a VA panel are very hard to beat, only thing oled has going for it is the inky blacks, most Qleds offer better colour volume and gamut, much better brightness, and if you get a decent model the blacks will still look amazing. QLED is the way to go if you want the best HDR image possible, oled if you want the best blacks but Medicare HDR.
I own q91a it has VA panel instead of IPS (in Europe). And blooming in hard scenes is noticeable, I mean like this fireworks you showed. But in all other scenes it is just awesome in terms of darkness. But to be sure, qled is far way behind oleds, but it does its job very well in dark scenes, especially this va panel. In other scenes I would pick qled always - brightness and HDR is mind blowing
I own a QN90B and an LG CX OLED and to me, in my dim room, the difference between the QLED and the OLED in black levels is minimal. What is very noticeable to me are the much better colors on the QLED, along with the superior motion and much higher brightness. The better viewing angles are the one thing I like about the OLED. Otherwise the QLED looks a lot better to me. It doesn't have the problem with black crush and making things look too dark. At least not to nearly the same degree
this is actually great content. Good stuff to know. Thanks
thank for this nice videoo
Good video but got to ditch the lights behind the tvs. It's not evenly distributed so it's distracting when trying to compare.
Never has led tvs been able to look as deep and rich next to an oled. Watch comparisons from 3 to 4 years ago and oked always and I mean always looked so much deeper and rich while led had bright saturated colors. Now it seems it can do everything! Very nice! Samsung really looks good with there white balance this year on the 90b also. Now I love what I've seen with the Samsung in its movie modes but not so much in its game mode. But you know what game mode on most tvs isn't as good so I'm sure buyers could deal with that and adjust settings to there liking lol see ehere rhe sony a90j comes in handy is in that sword scene the a90j I'd so intense in those type of scenes from how they boost it. The yellows and orbages cone through so so much better then lg oled tvs do. The lg processor doesn't seem to shine things up like Samsung and sony does. Like the blue cape again you can see the brightness on sony oled and the shine on the cape like Samsung. So I think that comes down to processing and algorithms on how the tvs read scenes not just brightness lol.
This is great, thank you!
Hey do u think LG finally catched up in Processing to Sony ? What about Upscaling and Details
Not yet
@@Faisal-SR Interesting , how do you work that one out?
Doubt it
I've tested upscaling side by side CX vs X950H and q80t
I'd rate them,
CX 5/10
Sony 7/10
Samsung 9/10
It's really obvious LG falls short
@@ArtVandelayOfficial
Interesting results
Samsung did well with processing
and New Neural Processor this year is amazing
@@Faisal-SR I was expecting the X950H to beat Samsung but it's still not as clean with 720 and 1080p
Dunno how Samsung does it
QN90B looks way brighter and more colourful. The LG C2 OLED is almost dull in comparison.