Its really beautiful to me when Peter realizes his mask is off an there's a small panic like gosh I'm done, the secret will get out. Then he's reassured. I truly think that Rami captured the essence of Spider-Man. Plus all the giving Peter accomplished for New York. New York gave Spider-Man something back.
I feel like if the train scene would be put in today's time, sure everyone has their phones to take a pic, but I also think that the people would think that they owe him by not taking a pic since he just saved their lives. I'm not sure.
This is why i really love Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy, the New York is alive. The New York in those trilogy isn't just some greenscreen, citizens of NY witness and lived with Spiderman. Spiderman saved the city, and in return they saved him (like during Green Goblin bridge and this train scene)
Yep. That’s why I love Raimi’s Spider-Man so much. Same goes for his suit. It’s literally just spandex. He has no fancy gadgets helping him out or anything. It’s just him.
I love how connected the marvel universe is. It's a ton of fun to see how these herpes interact in a world where they're just one fish in a full ocean. However, there is something special about seeing the stories that are kind of like a "What if this hero was the only one in the world."
@@nickreed3924 although to be fair in the novelazations ( which aren't cannon but I still want to mention them ) they do mention the hulk antman reed Richards and namor exist but that's it
No. The scenes where Iron Man is saving Spider-Man all the time is some of the greatest of all time. I just love how Spider-Man can’t do anything on his own and has to depend on him to do everything
@@andrewgarfield9898 you missed the point of why he did that and why Peter was on the boat in the first place I guess it’s cool to join the hate crowd when it’s popular
I think The Rami Spiderman trilogy and the Nolan Batman trilogy are such strong superhero stories. I think that they not only explain the hero and their trials and tribulations. But their inherent tragedy, the idea that by being a "hero" they cannot be "normal". Yet both series show that Gotham and NYC have normal people who will step up to act like heroes. That not only can we be like them, but that they can be like us. Its the idea that behind the mask their just scared, normal people who want to help others. Deep down I think most people are like that. Dare I say...most people if put into the same exact situation of losing their loved ones and being given a chance to help others...would become superheroes as well
The scene that symbolizes how Spider-Man is now no longer a product of Peter’s guilt and self loathing for Ben’s death, but instead a product of his desire to not let down those who were, or may be, inspired by his heroism. It’s not better than Peter and Sandman’s final dialogue in 3, because… that’s just too high. But it comes close.
When Peter's body is falling from the train the camerawork is so good. The spidey logo is covered immediately by hands and arms of people in the train. That's why new York is such a huge part of Spider-man. Webb's Spider-man tried to mimick it and it worked sometimes and sometimes it didn't, while the less said about the Watts version the better.
Yeah, I think the first TASM movie was going a little darker route but still felt good. They ruined it in the second part. TASM 2 is so different than TASM 1.
Yeah, I think the first TASM movie was going a little darker route but it still felt good. They ruined it in the second part. TASM 2 is so different than TASM 1.
Yeah, I think the first TASM movie was going a little darker route but it still felt good. They ruined it in the second part. TASM 2 is so different than TASM 1.
Not only that, he's a kid. All that responsibility and pressure of being a superhero is being done by someone who just started college. That kind of stress can get to you so that's what makes that line so impactful. I love this movie so freaking much
When the people on the train are holding Peter, the music from the soundtrack playing is called "Appreciation". Spider-Man is often thanked by the people he saves, but not Peter Parker. This is the first time in the film that Peter, not Spider-Man, is given recognition.
it’s incredible how spider-man has not just 1, but 2 masterpiece movies, one that helped shape the genre in its early days, and one that managed to be completely unique despite how oversaturated the genre had become
@moamashups i was talking about 2 and into the spider-verse, regardless of how you feel about the others, you know they’re not close to being masterpieces like those two 😆
*3 masterpiece movies. Spider-Man 3 was still a great and enjoyable film, despite the flaws the movie has, Sam Raimi still managed to make it a watchable movie despite of the overcrowded villains because of Sony's intervention to Sam's vision. Sam only wanted Sandman to be the main villain in the movie, with Harry Osborn as supporting villain, but Sony forced Sam Raimi to insert Venom because they know that Venom is a famous Spider-Man villain. But, Venom did not work in Spider-Man 3. There are a lot of deleted scenes that was only focused to Sandman because he is only supposed to be the main villain of the movie.
Aunt May's speech is fully nostalgic to me, and I will always hold it in my memory, more than Tony words in Avengers Endgame. That's how powerful Spider-Man 2 movie is to me.
Really appreciate the Raimi trilogy of movies. They taught us a lot of lessons about life, and people, without patronising us. They’ll go down as timeless.
@@dikiiieykick1734 Well I was a child when the Raimi trilogy was being made. I’m now in my mid 20s, so the Homecoming trilogy was never going to have that level of impact on me or anything, but I do enjoy them, especially Tom Holland’s performance.
I honestly hoped that Spider-Man: No Way Home would be something like this, but flipped on it's head, a personal, rough, dramatic story about Peter having to deal with the fact that the people who he saves have now abandoned him because of the person he protected them from. In my head we would get villians hunting him, and the people too. Spidey would be force to realize that his uncle was right, Tony was right. Tony wanted him to be better, Ben wanted him to be responsible, May wanted him to be safe, and he failed all of them. He would now have to deal with that, and he would undo his actions, but also his love-life through Doctor Strange, and now he would be a lot closer to the ideal Spider-Man. But...I smell Avi Arad from a mile away, and I can tell he had a lot to do with the direction this new movie is being taken to, and I can only hope this movie is better than the one I had in my head.
The whole Avi Arad bullshit has been debunked bro, he lost the creative control of the character since TASM2 and the only people who have the control is Amy Pascal and Kevin Feige. The only thing you need to worry about now is the director and the writers of the next movie, it's because of these people that we won't never get a great Spider-Man flick since SM2 and Into the Spider-Verse, i advise you to keep your expectations low for now.
MCU's Spider-Man is garbage. Can't wait for another reboot where Spider-Man isn't Ironman's whiny bitch. He's better off with Sony. Miss Tobey and Andrew.
This train scene is powerful because it shows the level of respect and admiration everyone in new York has for Spiderman because he just like them behind the mask, just your average guy
Which is why these films are masterpieces. All the previous scenes building up to some of our most favorite iconic scenes are crucial for the buildup to said iconic scenes.
This brings up a huge problem with the MCU Spider-Man. We have not seen the authentic NY Peter Parker/ Spider-Man in the new movies. Further, Peter’s struggles are nowhere near Ramis Spider-Man. Not to mention the MCU Spider-Man has been on Stark training wheels from the beginning.
Training wheels? The Iron Spider suit and a satellite weapons array with fully armed drones for Spiderman level villains is like giving a child a power bike with nitro boost in a bicycle race.
@@enumaelish9193 jesus christ that is so fucked up and out of character in so many levels, whoever came with that god awful idea needs to be fucking fired immediately.
I know you’re a fan of My hero academia and your thesis here reminds me of a line that Uraraka says in one of the more recent episodes where something huge happens. “Who saves the heroes when they’re hurting?” Simple line but it really connected with me at the time, as did this video.
No one ever says anything but the score of these films are what speak to me the most, I always hum them and the scenes make them magical I gotta say as much as I love the other spider men, the score of those haven’t spoken to me like these do, it says a lot about them
that scene at 0:39 where those people in the train are looking down on Peter who was on the floor reminds me of one TH-cam video that says Spider-Man movies are "about other people's perception of you/the characters, how people see Peter, MJ, and how that affects these characters"
The Raimi movies had such beautiful and poetic thematic value. They really say something. And honestly? I don’t think TASM or the MCU have even gotten close to matching that heart
That's a bit harsh on TASM 2, isn't it? The movie is really being talked about these days and after the whole thing about it being heavily altered I think the movie deserves a chance EDIT: I think the reply is joking but I actually like S-M 3!
very good video and it got me thinking- i think we all have to become more than we are and play that role whether it is “father” “teacher” or “doctor” or anything. as shakespeare said “all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players”. we all have to choose to accept the “great responsibility” to play our roles!
i like how it takes injustices hitting him in the face like not being able to save the other person in the building and doc oc kidnapping mj before he understands why he can't just have a normal life
This is one of a few superhero movies that literally could make me genuinely cry for how wonderful it is. Even watching a video essay about this movie is enough to make me cry.
I would absolutely love for the next Spider-Man movie to have a scene like this showing how much he cares about random people. Raimi nailed this stuff.
New Spider-Man 2 video? Hell yes!! It's crazy to me that a 17 year old movie (holy crap 17 years!) still holds up to this day. Not only that, but it manages to stay ahead of everything that is still coming out these days. The VFX are top notch, acting, sound design, soundtrack and just about everything. It really is... _amazing_ (*cue the music*)
I don't know when or why, but at some point during this video, I started tearing up. Thank you for all the beautiful and insightful videos you make. It is truly appreciated.
dude, my body was goose bumping constantly while watching the whole video, thanks for expressing my feelings, feelings that I felt throughout my entire childhood while watching Sam Raimi's spider-man.
4:21-4:26. And that right there is why it’s believable and why I want to punch the screen anytime anyone compares Peter quitting being Spider-Man in Spider-Man 2 comparing Peter wanting to go one his trip putting Spider-Man on hold in far from home. No one can make such a stupid comparison.
Well, he did get back from being dead for 5 years, fought for half the universe, then his mentor died. I think it’s justifiable he’s want to take a break to go after the girl he likes, people are acting like he was quitting forever or some bs
@@WisemanRyan I find that hard to believe. There is no reference whatsoever from Peter that suggests that he suffers from being dead for 5 years. And do you know another reason I find it hard to believe it? Because in far from home, the snap was made as if it was no big deal because it was played off as a damn joke to them of being dead and that everyone remained the same age. How am I supposed to believe of what you are saying?
@@voiceacticon667 ...probably because it’s a comedy? you know you’re allowed to praise a movie without needlessly trashing another, it’s almost as if they’re not the same
@@WisemanRyan an incident where people are dead and it gets used as a joke in far from home? It’s as if far from home us saying that the emotional weight from infinity war and endgame didn’t matter; as if all those emotional weights we felt mean absolutely nothing!!
@@voiceacticon667 because the the movie wasn’t about the snap it was about Spider-Man going on a field trip to Europe, about 8 months after Endgame. There’s quite a few things to critique about Far From Home but people keep using the same baseless points that can be easily argued against if you actually care to pay attention to the movie
The Spider-Man trilogy are like the first three Christopher Reeve Superman films but more focussed - 1 = the origin story where the character learns about his responsibility - 2 = the character deals with the choice to become powerless and be with the love of their life or be a hero - 3 = The hero fights their dark side (Superman 3 could have been good if this is all the movie was however the rest of the inclusions suck)
I bet everybody who love Spider-Man 2 will be very happy that all the Spider-Man films including this are all going to be available on Disney+ real soon.
Everybody clapped inside the theatre in this scene, I watched 1st day 1st showing since I'm also a big Spider-Man fan, I was so moved cause I realized most of the people watching were big fans like me, Literally got chills, at that moment Spidey was almost real. I ended up watching again that evening for the last full show.
My favourite super hero moment of all time. He saves them all, and they save him in return, and then look upon him with such sympathy before he wakes and such trust when when he does... I'm tearing up as a write this 😅
Fantastic video essay man! Honestly brought tears to my eyes and reminds me why he’s my favorite, these movies are my favorite and how inspirational these heroes can be!
This was the very first CD I got (back when CD's and DVD'S were a thing). I think it was towards the end of 2005 IG. I used to come back from school and play disk 2 almost everyday since it started with the iconic scene of him decide to throw the suit into the garbage can and I loved the build up for his return. Oh boy. I'm pretty sure most of the dialogues I memorized and kept repeating during the movie were not even legit sentences since I was only getting used to Hollywood movies and the accent (I'm Indian) but I defenitely knew what was going on. :')
I can't agree more, the spider-man 2 train scene was my 1st favourite superhero scene and it was the human element that I loved and still love today. Thankyou this takes me back to my childhood!💖😊
Don't get me wrong, I love Tom Holland's performance but I have to admit that New York is what's missing in the MCU Spider-Man. I have yet to see a scene where Tom Holland's Spider-Man interact with the people of New York properly.
One of the things I don’t understand about this scene is that how where the kids able to get Spider-Mans mask on the train? I mean in the scene where he took it off, he took it off the top of the train and kinda throw it to the streets, so how where the kids able to get it? Either way, it’s still a very powerful scene in the movie and I love it :)
@@maxdrags3115 This is very true. It likely flew back then the wind pushed it into a window in the back of the train like when someone throws paper out their window for it to land in the middle of the street.
Damn was watching this while eating dinner, and your explanation hit me hard and made me teary hahaha. Spider-Man 2 is definitely the film that I've re-watched the most in my life. I'm super pumped to see what Raimi does with Doctor Strange's character now.
This was an incredible video. Genuinely felt like a gut punch how much emotional analysis you rightfully gave to this moment. Brb gonna rewatch Spider-Man 2
In any other super hero movie, relationship problems are just noise between the action, like Captain America for example, who we don't care what house he lives, how he pays rent or whaterver. But this movie capitalizes on that juicy spider-man "more-power-more-problems" strugle. They knew the audience enjoys peter parker's daily strugles like no other hero. I'm just sad the movie doesn't give him a break, a time to enjoy his love or tranquility. There should have been more motivation to him.
This guy gets Spider-Man! This is what I miss in current Spider-Man, it's too fluffy, I forget most of the scenes as soon as it's over. Not iconic enough. No real gravitas in the cinematography nor the soundtrack, no character focus. Shame we don't have Spidey like this again.
9:15 THIS! This is something I've always wanted but could never word it properly! I want to see the reaction from the people they are saving. Amazing job!
“Listen Joe Rogan, lemme tell you ‘bout the time I ran into that wall-crawling fuck up on the Manhattan trainline, what a fuckin’ mess. Good thing I was blasted outta my mind that day”
That is exactly why I dislike the newest spiderman movies. Everything that was good about spiderman before, is either replaced by some goofy shenanigans or just thrown out all together.
Watched this movie when I was 5 in the theaters during 2004, first day night show and it was on a Friday. I remember this night really well because it was just dad and me watching this movie, as the movie finished although I was mesmerized by spiderman but deep down this movie till this day as I'm 22 years old now makes me feel alive whenever I watch it. I will definitely come back to this video many years to come.
There's a scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 in which an mother clutches her child on some alien planet while the universe is destroyed by the villian. It always makes me tear up a little even though the heroes are never aware of her existence and her screen time amounts to about 20 seconds. I think this scene analysis finally made it clear why that seemingly minor moment impacts me so much. It's surprisingly rare that we get reminded of what it means to be a hero.
The comeback in this movie was so masterfully executed that it felt way more earned than Tobey appearing as Spidey in the big screen after 14 LONG years!
I like that to show the world without Spider-Man, they portray it by the people he could be saving rather than bad guys he could be stopping. This is my favorite Spider-Man movie.
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Wait I thought you did a video on this
Another video on TH-cam about Spider-Man 2? I'm watching it!
Whenever I watch this scene, it's so empowering.
No
Its really beautiful to me when Peter realizes his mask is off an there's a small panic like gosh I'm done, the secret will get out. Then he's reassured. I truly think that Rami captured the essence of Spider-Man. Plus all the giving Peter accomplished for New York. New York gave Spider-Man something back.
Damn you gonna make me cry
@@porassrivastava8242 breaking down the emotional core of S2 Is enough to make anyone cry if they get the gist😪
I feel like if the train scene would be put in today's time, sure everyone has their phones to take a pic, but I also think that the people would think that they owe him by not taking a pic since he just saved their lives. I'm not sure.
@@juangal7569 that would be a great scene. The kid tells everyone to put their phones down out of respect and everyone agrees one by one.
This is why i really love Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy, the New York is alive. The New York in those trilogy isn't just some greenscreen, citizens of NY witness and lived with Spiderman. Spiderman saved the city, and in return they saved him (like during Green Goblin bridge and this train scene)
I really appreciate that within these movies Spider-man is unique / special , there aren’t a bunch of heroes flying around it’s just him.
Yep. That’s why I love Raimi’s Spider-Man so much. Same goes for his suit. It’s literally just spandex. He has no fancy gadgets helping him out or anything. It’s just him.
I love how connected the marvel universe is. It's a ton of fun to see how these herpes interact in a world where they're just one fish in a full ocean. However, there is something special about seeing the stories that are kind of like a "What if this hero was the only one in the world."
@@nickreed3924 although to be fair in the novelazations ( which aren't cannon but I still want to mention them ) they do mention the hulk antman reed Richards and namor exist but that's it
The train scene is probably one of the best scenes in movie history
I love this scene so bad it's so memorable more memorable than most the MCU moments
Agreed.
No. The scenes where Iron Man is saving Spider-Man all the time is some of the greatest of all time. I just love how Spider-Man can’t do anything on his own and has to depend on him to do everything
@@andrewgarfield9898 This comment's tooo funny
@@andrewgarfield9898 you missed the point of why he did that and why Peter was on the boat in the first place
I guess it’s cool to join the hate crowd when it’s popular
I think The Rami Spiderman trilogy and the Nolan Batman trilogy are such strong superhero stories.
I think that they not only explain the hero and their trials and tribulations. But their inherent tragedy, the idea that by being a "hero" they cannot be "normal".
Yet both series show that Gotham and NYC have normal people who will step up to act like heroes. That not only can we be like them, but that they can be like us.
Its the idea that behind the mask their just scared, normal people who want to help others. Deep down I think most people are like that.
Dare I say...most people if put into the same exact situation of losing their loved ones and being given a chance to help others...would become superheroes as well
Agree
Sad to see that Sony messed with and rushed Spider-Man 3.
Strong superhero movies?
For you..
No, stop, Nolans Batman Trilogy is good, but overrated.
Sam Raimis Spider-Man Trilogy is way better.
@@gj9157 Nope, objectively.
The scene that symbolizes how Spider-Man is now no longer a product of Peter’s guilt and self loathing for Ben’s death, but instead a product of his desire to not let down those who were, or may be, inspired by his heroism. It’s not better than Peter and Sandman’s final dialogue in 3, because… that’s just too high. But it comes close.
What makes Spider-Man more relatable: "Consequences"
John wick :consequences...
Tobeys performance is criminally underrated in the whole trilogy.
His performance in Spider-Man 2 is incredible
Tom & Andrew couldn’t pull of the sensitivity, soft nature & relatability of Peter/Spider-Man nearly as well as Tobey did.
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn "Pull of" Hey maybe instead of simping for tobey you should go learn english.
@@F-14B lol misspelled one thing and needs to learn English
@@bingobongo8701 Okay and? Gonna cry?
When Peter's body is falling from the train the camerawork is so good. The spidey logo is covered immediately by hands and arms of people in the train. That's why new York is such a huge part of Spider-man. Webb's Spider-man tried to mimick it and it worked sometimes and sometimes it didn't, while the less said about the Watts version the better.
Yeah, I think the first TASM movie was going a little darker route but still felt good. They ruined it in the second part. TASM 2 is so different than TASM 1.
Yeah, I think the first TASM movie was going a little darker route but it still felt good. They ruined it in the second part. TASM 2 is so different than TASM 1.
Yeah, I think the first TASM movie was going a little darker route but it still felt good. They ruined it in the second part. TASM 2 is so different than TASM 1.
@@agi238 No it wasn't. Sony completely butchered the director's vision, which is evident by essential cut scenes. And they did it again with TASM 2.
@@agi238 No it wasn’t. Song completely butchered the director’s vision, which is evident by essential cut scenes. And they did it again with TASM 2.
One of the best lines in the scene is “he’s just a kid, no older than my son”, because it shows that they see him as a regular person like them
Not only that, he's a kid. All that responsibility and pressure of being a superhero is being done by someone who just started college. That kind of stress can get to you so that's what makes that line so impactful. I love this movie so freaking much
When the people on the train are holding Peter, the music from the soundtrack playing is called "Appreciation".
Spider-Man is often thanked by the people he saves, but not Peter Parker.
This is the first time in the film that Peter, not Spider-Man, is given recognition.
it’s incredible how spider-man has not just 1, but 2 masterpiece movies, one that helped shape the genre in its early days, and one that managed to be completely unique despite how oversaturated the genre had become
3 is great
@moamashups i was talking about 2 and into the spider-verse, regardless of how you feel about the others, you know they’re not close to being masterpieces like those two 😆
And the greatest comedy of all time, spider-man 3
*3 masterpiece movies. Spider-Man 3 was still a great and enjoyable film, despite the flaws the movie has, Sam Raimi still managed to make it a watchable movie despite of the overcrowded villains because of Sony's intervention to Sam's vision. Sam only wanted Sandman to be the main villain in the movie, with Harry Osborn as supporting villain, but Sony forced Sam Raimi to insert Venom because they know that Venom is a famous Spider-Man villain. But, Venom did not work in Spider-Man 3. There are a lot of deleted scenes that was only focused to Sandman because he is only supposed to be the main villain of the movie.
3 is a good movie that just didn’t meet the standards of the last movie. I’d still put it above some other Spider-Man movies
Aunt May's speech is fully nostalgic to me, and I will always hold it in my memory,
more than Tony words in Avengers Endgame. That's how powerful Spider-Man 2 movie is to me.
Really appreciate the Raimi trilogy of movies. They taught us a lot of lessons about life, and people, without patronising us. They’ll go down as timeless.
What about the homecoming trilogy
@@dikiiieykick1734 Well I was a child when the Raimi trilogy was being made. I’m now in my mid 20s, so the Homecoming trilogy was never going to have that level of impact on me or anything, but I do enjoy them, especially Tom Holland’s performance.
@@legendgamer676 did you enjoy no way home
@@dikiiieykick1734 yes very much
Man I literally cried watching this video like I always cry watching the movie but the difference is that I now understand why I cry every time
I cry like a baby throughout 1 and probably 2, but yeah this vid reminded me that I'd really have to be prepared to re-watch this
Me too
I honestly hoped that Spider-Man: No Way Home would be something like this, but flipped on it's head, a personal, rough, dramatic story about Peter having to deal with the fact that the people who he saves have now abandoned him because of the person he protected them from. In my head we would get villians hunting him, and the people too. Spidey would be force to realize that his uncle was right, Tony was right. Tony wanted him to be better, Ben wanted him to be responsible, May wanted him to be safe, and he failed all of them. He would now have to deal with that, and he would undo his actions, but also his love-life through Doctor Strange, and now he would be a lot closer to the ideal Spider-Man. But...I smell Avi Arad from a mile away, and I can tell he had a lot to do with the direction this new movie is being taken to, and I can only hope this movie is better than the one I had in my head.
The whole Avi Arad bullshit has been debunked bro, he lost the creative control of the character since TASM2 and the only people who have the control is Amy Pascal and Kevin Feige. The only thing you need to worry about now is the director and the writers of the next movie, it's because of these people that we won't never get a great Spider-Man flick since SM2 and Into the Spider-Verse, i advise you to keep your expectations low for now.
lol at the “May wanted him to be safe”
I just hope there’s no unnecessary jokes.
MCU's Spider-Man is garbage. Can't wait for another reboot where Spider-Man isn't Ironman's whiny bitch. He's better off with Sony. Miss Tobey and Andrew.
@@donnovandalusong266 and unnecessary characters and locations. I swear Far From Home littered with this and i hate it
Spider-man 2 aged like a fine wine.
It offers more than we expect, blending action, drama, comedy, even horror all in one, a literal CINEMA. ❤
The train scene is without a doubt the best action scene I have ever seen in a superhero movie and one of the best of all time.
I’m so happy people are still talking about this incredible movie. I love it with a passion and it makes me happy to see others talk about it.
This train scene is powerful because it shows the level of respect and admiration everyone in new York has for Spiderman because he just like them behind the mask, just your average guy
Which is why these films are masterpieces. All the previous scenes building up to some of our most favorite iconic scenes are crucial for the buildup to said iconic scenes.
This brings up a huge problem with the MCU Spider-Man. We have not seen the authentic NY Peter Parker/ Spider-Man in the new movies. Further, Peter’s struggles are nowhere near Ramis Spider-Man. Not to mention the MCU Spider-Man has been on Stark training wheels from the beginning.
Training wheels? The Iron Spider suit and a satellite weapons array with fully armed drones for Spiderman level villains is like giving a child a power bike with nitro boost in a bicycle race.
@@enumaelish9193 jesus christ that is so fucked up and out of character in so many levels, whoever came with that god awful idea needs to be fucking fired immediately.
Mcu spiderman doesnt have to be like raimis Spidey... Toms is great too
@@enumaelish9193 strongly agree!
@@YTChannel420 explain to me what Mcu Spider-Man overcame or struggled with in the movies, or better yet, accomplished.
I know you’re a fan of My hero academia and your thesis here reminds me of a line that Uraraka says in one of the more recent episodes where something huge happens.
“Who saves the heroes when they’re hurting?”
Simple line but it really connected with me at the time, as did this video.
BnHA is a ridiculous story with god awful characters.
@@MaxIronsThird okay
@@MaxIronsThird BHA is what western comics were before they downgraded massively
@@porassrivastava8242 I can tell you at least 10 comic books that came out after BnHA and that are also much better.
No one ever says anything but the score of these films are what speak to me the most, I always hum them and the scenes make them magical
I gotta say as much as I love the other spider men, the score of those haven’t spoken to me like these do, it says a lot about them
This is one of my favorite films of all time and I friggin love listening to people talk about it.
I don't know why I'm crying throughout this video. Man that movie is good
Me, too!
Crying hard!
Me, too!
Crying hard!
Me, too!
Crying hard!
that scene at 0:39 where those people in the train are looking down on Peter who was on the floor reminds me of one TH-cam video that says Spider-Man movies are "about other people's perception of you/the characters, how people see Peter, MJ, and how that affects these characters"
The Raimi movies had such beautiful and poetic thematic value. They really say something. And honestly? I don’t think TASM or the MCU have even gotten close to matching that heart
why did you not only make me fall in love with spider-man 2 again but also manscaped
Spider-Man 2 isn't just the best superhero movie, its one of the best movies in general
I want to have a video on why it didn't work in TASM 2. Bring out your chainsaw on that movie, please.
That's a bit harsh on TASM 2, isn't it? The movie is really being talked about these days and after the whole thing about it being heavily altered I think the movie deserves a chance EDIT: I think the reply is joking but I actually like S-M 3!
@@Comicbroe405 What about Spiderman 3?! DID YOU GIVE IT A CHANCE?!
@@Comicbroe405 I love tasm that's why I love Andrew but his second movie wasn't really good I mean I still love it but I know it it isnt great
@@mr.unpopularopinion6431 Same
We all know Spider-Man Far From Home sucked so much, worst Spider-Man film I've watched.
Some heroes are chosen, some heroes are made, some simply just doing what they can
We like Spider-Man 2 cause we're afraid we will get some dirt in our eyes
How did that get in there 👀
very good video and it got me thinking- i think we all have to become more than we are and play that role whether it is “father” “teacher” or “doctor” or anything. as shakespeare said “all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players”. we all have to choose to accept the “great responsibility” to play our roles!
i like how it takes injustices hitting him in the face like not being able to save the other person in the building and doc oc kidnapping mj before he understands why he can't just have a normal life
This is one of a few superhero movies that literally could make me genuinely cry for how wonderful it is. Even watching a video essay about this movie is enough to make me cry.
I would absolutely love for the next Spider-Man movie to have a scene like this showing how much he cares about random people. Raimi nailed this stuff.
New Spider-Man 2 video? Hell yes!! It's crazy to me that a 17 year old movie (holy crap 17 years!) still holds up to this day. Not only that, but it manages to stay ahead of everything that is still coming out these days. The VFX are top notch, acting, sound design, soundtrack and just about everything. It really is... _amazing_ (*cue the music*)
God every video essey about raimi trilogy made me love it even more every time.
Great video thank you
Man, there is so much passion on this video. You can feel how big the love is not only for Spider-man but for what he's is doing. So good!
Literally rewatched Spider-Man 2 two nights ago, so this was well timed - great work as always!
Aunt May: Everyone loves a hero
Loki and Thanos: *AHEM*
Loki and Thanos aren't heroes.
@@abramsullivan7764 They are the heroes in their own head, and they love themselves
@@incogniftoar3943 How is Loki a hero in his own head?
The doctor scene is honestly one of my favourites from the whole series
I don't know when or why, but at some point during this video, I started tearing up. Thank you for all the beautiful and insightful videos you make. It is truly appreciated.
Holy fuck dude
Every time you make a video I get absolute chills while watching them
Your absolutely brilliant man, keep up the good work!
dude, my body was goose bumping constantly while watching the whole video,
thanks for expressing my feelings, feelings that I felt throughout my entire childhood while watching Sam Raimi's spider-man.
the polar opposite of the train scene in invincible
4:21-4:26. And that right there is why it’s believable and why I want to punch the screen anytime anyone compares Peter quitting being Spider-Man in Spider-Man 2 comparing Peter wanting to go one his trip putting Spider-Man on hold in far from home. No one can make such a stupid comparison.
Well, he did get back from being dead for 5 years, fought for half the universe, then his mentor died. I think it’s justifiable he’s want to take a break to go after the girl he likes, people are acting like he was quitting forever or some bs
@@WisemanRyan I find that hard to believe. There is no reference whatsoever from Peter that suggests that he suffers from being dead for 5 years. And do you know another reason I find it hard to believe it? Because in far from home, the snap was made as if it was no big deal because it was played off as a damn joke to them of being dead and that everyone remained the same age. How am I supposed to believe of what you are saying?
@@voiceacticon667 ...probably because it’s a comedy? you know you’re allowed to praise a movie without needlessly trashing another, it’s almost as if they’re not the same
@@WisemanRyan an incident where people are dead and it gets used as a joke in far from home? It’s as if far from home us saying that the emotional weight from infinity war and endgame didn’t matter; as if all those emotional weights we felt mean absolutely nothing!!
@@voiceacticon667 because the the movie wasn’t about the snap it was about Spider-Man going on a field trip to Europe, about 8 months after Endgame. There’s quite a few things to critique about Far From Home but people keep using the same baseless points that can be easily argued against if you actually care to pay attention to the movie
What the hell man? I literally JUST re-watched the entire train sequence and bawled my eyes out
Superhero movies just dont have this type of emotional depth anymore we need Spiderman 4
The Spider-Man trilogy are like the first three Christopher Reeve Superman films but more focussed
- 1 = the origin story where the character learns about his responsibility
- 2 = the character deals with the choice to become powerless and be with the love of their life or be a hero
- 3 = The hero fights their dark side (Superman 3 could have been good if this is all the movie was however the rest of the inclusions suck)
In the german version, they changed the poor soul trapped in the fire to a little dog that died instead.
I bet everybody who love Spider-Man 2 will be very happy that all the Spider-Man films including this are all going to be available on Disney+ real soon.
Everybody clapped inside the theatre in this scene, I watched 1st day 1st showing since I'm also a big Spider-Man fan, I was so moved cause I realized most of the people watching were big fans like me, Literally got chills, at that moment Spidey was almost real. I ended up watching again that evening for the last full show.
Spiderman 2 is so good it makes me cry
My favourite super hero moment of all time. He saves them all, and they save him in return, and then look upon him with such sympathy before he wakes and such trust when when he does... I'm tearing up as a write this 😅
There is no superhero film like Spider-Man 2 for me. I love a lot of the films but 2 is unbeatable for me.
Fantastic video essay man! Honestly brought tears to my eyes and reminds me why he’s my favorite, these movies are my favorite and how inspirational these heroes can be!
This was the very first CD I got (back when CD's and DVD'S were a thing). I think it was towards the end of 2005 IG.
I used to come back from school and play disk 2 almost everyday since it started with the iconic scene of him decide to throw the suit into the garbage can and I loved the build up for his return. Oh boy. I'm pretty sure most of the dialogues I memorized and kept repeating during the movie were not even legit sentences since I was only getting used to Hollywood movies and the accent (I'm Indian) but I defenitely knew what was going on. :')
Thanks for making this video
Rosemary Harris will always be the embodiment of Aunt May
I can't agree more, the spider-man 2 train scene was my 1st favourite superhero scene and it was the human element that I loved and still love today. Thankyou this takes me back to my childhood!💖😊
It’s good to have you bac- oh god, wh-what are you doing? PUT THAT BACK ON
Funny, those kids are Tobey Maguires brothers, Raimi gave them a role in the film
Thanks for the shout out of my art browntable.
I feel honored. ^_^
Cool art bro
@@porassrivastava8242 thank you.
Don't get me wrong, I love Tom Holland's performance but I have to admit that New York is what's missing in the MCU Spider-Man. I have yet to see a scene where Tom Holland's Spider-Man interact with the people of New York properly.
Man, what a great video. Very encouraging.
This is one of the best videos I’ve watched on TH-cam in such a long time thank you for speaking your voice about this amazing movie
One of the things I don’t understand about this scene is that how where the kids able to get Spider-Mans mask on the train? I mean in the scene where he took it off, he took it off the top of the train and kinda throw it to the streets, so how where the kids able to get it? Either way, it’s still a very powerful scene in the movie and I love it :)
It probably managed to fly into the train somehow due to the wind current.
@@maxdrags3115 This is very true. It likely flew back then the wind pushed it into a window in the back of the train like when someone throws paper out their window for it to land in the middle of the street.
Damn was watching this while eating dinner, and your explanation hit me hard and made me teary hahaha. Spider-Man 2 is definitely the film that I've re-watched the most in my life. I'm super pumped to see what Raimi does with Doctor Strange's character now.
This was an incredible video. Genuinely felt like a gut punch how much emotional analysis you rightfully gave to this moment. Brb gonna rewatch Spider-Man 2
Ykw this means? Rewatching Spider-man 2 for the 60th time LESGOOO!
fun fact: people who write "I always thought they were Raimi's kids, the more you know" in a comment reply are attracted to small children.
I always thought they were Raimi’s kids, the more you know
I always thought they were Raimi’s kids, the more you know
I always thought they were Raimi’s kids, the more you know
I always thought they were Raimi's kids, the more you know
I always thought those were Raimi's kids, the more you know
I really love spiderman, but I don't know why I do love this hero. Now I know why.
The best film ever made.
Masterpiece, of the best of the best CBMs
After all these years I never realized Phil LaMarr was standing right there in that train scene.
This video is the greatest.
Very well said, sir! It really brings back memories from my childhood. Best review ever.
In any other super hero movie, relationship problems are just noise between the action, like Captain America for example, who we don't care what house he lives, how he pays rent or whaterver. But this movie capitalizes on that juicy spider-man "more-power-more-problems" strugle. They knew the audience enjoys peter parker's daily strugles like no other hero. I'm just sad the movie doesn't give him a break, a time to enjoy his love or tranquility. There should have been more motivation to him.
Easily one of the best super hero movies ever made.
already one of the best sp2 vids and i’m only halfway through
This guy gets Spider-Man! This is what I miss in current Spider-Man, it's too fluffy, I forget most of the scenes as soon as it's over. Not iconic enough. No real gravitas in the cinematography nor the soundtrack, no character focus. Shame we don't have Spidey like this again.
do a video essay on TASM1 and TASM2 unlike the spider Chad series when you slated andrews portrayed of Spider-Man
This was a fantastic analysis! Bravo!
9:15 THIS! This is something I've always wanted but could never word it properly! I want to see the reaction from the people they are saving. Amazing job!
Fuck Spider-Man 2 is so good
It’s perfect you just released this videoed it was just Spider-Man 2s 17th birthday
This makes me excited to see what raimi does with dr strange
When you realize Joey Diaz is on the train, you can't re-watch that scene the same way again
Really? Jamie pull that up!
“Listen Joe Rogan, lemme tell you ‘bout the time I ran into that wall-crawling fuck up on the Manhattan trainline, what a fuckin’ mess. Good thing I was blasted outta my mind that day”
Who?
@@VdeBeltran popular stand-up comedian. Google his picture and I’ll bet you’ll be able to pick him out of the crowd in that scene, easy.
"You want to get to him, you gotta go through me, cocksucka"
Fuck man, I wasn't expecting to cry today.
@@npcimknot958 he's real, he's you, he's all of us. (Sorry ik corny)
Damn, just watching this video almost made me tear up, maybe it's time for a rewatch
Great Video Browntable.
Such a good movie, but am I the only one who remembers how much of a banger Vindicated was when it played during the credits?
That is exactly why I dislike the newest spiderman movies.
Everything that was good about spiderman before, is either replaced by some goofy shenanigans or just thrown out all together.
Absolutely love your Raimi videos, keep it up!
Holy shit, this video is GREAT. 🙌🏽
Watched this movie when I was 5 in the theaters during 2004, first day night show and it was on a Friday. I remember this night really well because it was just dad and me watching this movie, as the movie finished although I was mesmerized by spiderman but deep down this movie till this day as I'm 22 years old now makes me feel alive whenever I watch it. I will definitely come back to this video many years to come.
I feel the same way. I'm 24 now and I'm probably the same age as you now.
There's a scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 in which an mother clutches her child on some alien planet while the universe is destroyed by the villian. It always makes me tear up a little even though the heroes are never aware of her existence and her screen time amounts to about 20 seconds. I think this scene analysis finally made it clear why that seemingly minor moment impacts me so much.
It's surprisingly rare that we get reminded of what it means to be a hero.
Oh wow…
that… that is just… wow…
The comeback in this movie was so masterfully executed that it felt way more earned than Tobey appearing as Spidey in the big screen after 14 LONG years!
im not saying this is making me want to cry but I can feel it. bc omg
I like that to show the world without Spider-Man, they portray it by the people he could be saving rather than bad guys he could be stopping. This is my favorite Spider-Man movie.
I enjoy the new mcu Spider-Man, but it doesn’t have the same feeling as the rami Spider-Man. He captured the essence of what Spider-Man is perfectly
Damn “Browntable” you made me relive one of my favorite movies