I love the idea of peter trying to seem worse at something, in order to keep his identity. An example of this in Homecoming is when he's doing sit ups in gym class effortlessly, his teacher walks by and says something like 'looking good peter', then after hearing that peter begins to pretend the sit ups are hard for him and that he's exhausted from doing them. Little details like that r the reason I love spiderman movies.
@@zzirfamo24 he was nerd before becoming spiderman, being fit itself isnt suspicious, its the fact that he wasnt fit before spiderman started appearing
The one thing I would personally change in the movie is near the end, Stark doesn’t give Peter back the red and blue Stark suit, but Peter makes his own suit. This could further send the idea that Peter has become his own hero, and it’d be a nice “suit-making montage” that I’ve kind of been missing in superhero movies. Aside from that, I agree its a very solid Spider-Man movie.
I think Peter would need a miracle to make his own suit in the mcu since he’s basically poor. I like him having stark tech but making his own thing with access to it as he does in far from home. As long as he made the web fluid I don’t really care
@@RealogOnlyBrodie wdym a miracle Spider-Man is a genius in the ps4 game his tech comes from dumpster diving and in the comics his suit has always been made out of CLOTH if peter can make super advanced web fluid with chemicals in science class he can make tech
@@On1yGreen peter gets his web fluid from chemicals in school as shown in homecoming but for peter to make a suit as durable as stark tech which he would require as his villains use alien tech and stark tech would be a hard task.
@@RealogOnlyBrodie well in the 1st secret wars he wears his regular cloth suit before the black suit and in the first Infinity war he fights thanos in regular cloth
I find that very few of the Spider-Man movies are true stinkers. Overall its been a pretty consistent franchise, and I can even see the merit in my least favourite iterations like ASM 1 and 2. Spider-Man 3 is a mixed bag but the good outweighs the bad for me, and the same is true of both Tom Holland solo adventures. I'm excited to see all three come together in No Way Home and I hope it makes some strides towards uniting the fanbase.
True, I don’t think none of them suck. For me, the Sam Raimi trilogy is my favorite, TASM 1 I also adore and Homecoming is fun. TASM 2 and FFH are my least favorite but still a fine watch.
what I like about vulture's development is how he after not being able to get a better life by geting envolved in crime he changes his mindset and ends up becoming the owner of mcdonalds👍
I mean, when we see him in the present he’s squarely in the upper-middle class. He’s got a big, nice house with a pool. And that’s the fascinating thing. He starts out as the little guy, stepped on by the government and eking out a life by turning to crime. Now, however, he’s got his own little weapons empire and living a good life.
The idea of having the Vulture run a business of dangerous weapons and collecting scraps is genius. The suit and wings look good, as well as Michael Keaton's performance
Yeah I still don't see why people think Doc Ock is better than Vulture. Vulture has made his own weapon empire for the sole purpose of giving his daugher a good life. Doc Ock wants to finish a machine and becomes schizophremic Who has better motivations?
I totally agree with how Spider-Man: Homecoming is a great Spider-Man Movie...hopefully Marvel takes this into account when they make the next Spider-Man SOLO movie.
Homecoming would be my favourite Spider-Man film, but Spider-Verse exists. But the fact it’s close probably says a lot about how good it is. Also, this review gave me like, 100 more reasons to love this movie. Great essay!
@@BreydanArchibald 1. The animation is some of the best ever created 2. The story and everything has a very good sense of who Spiderman is/should be 3. The action, comedy, and acting are all top notch 4. It's full of Easter eggs and fun tidbits That's just my opinion, why don't you like it? just curious
While I still respectfully disagree with the approach that the movie takes to Spider-Man’s character & arc, this video still does a great job highlighting the merit in their concepts. Well done!
I love Homecoming, it has a really fun and easy going feel that not only felt like old John Hughes films but also feels like a nice simple Spider-Man comic but has a great idea and theme of Spider-Man.
@@Mr.Murphy2802 I wish people could just meet in the middle and enjoy both movies. Like I get liking the Raimi movies better (I do) but that's no reason to trash or ignore the new stuff
@@-Teague- same its annoying asf, the raimi movies have aged poorly yet theyre treated like the second coming of christ, every spiderman movie has its flaws yet the raimi fans r too ignorant to see their movies arent perfect
@@-Teague- oh fr theyre all fantastic but flawed. And by aged poorly I mean they're extremely cliche, very awkward performances from some of the cast, something just feels off about them at times especially the first one
If Homecoming is about Peter being a friendly neighborhood hero and Infinity War is about thrusting him into a greater role, then Far From Home is his struggle to deal with that responsibility of being greater all by himself. It’s not something he wants for himself, he’d prefer to be a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and go on vacation with his crush and have his cake and eat it too, but with great power comes great responsibility, so he accepts that role of being a greater hero in order to correct his mistake of trying to give that to Mysterio. The spidey sense subplot could’ve been handled better, but ultimately it’s a metaphor for Peter trusting himself to handle the burden of being that greater hero and accepting responsibility. I find Far From Home to be one of the best Spider-Man movies and I still don’t understand why you don’t like it.
this is what it could be about, but the scene where he pretty much becomes Spider Iron Man kills all character development of his. He goes back to being reliant on Tony and negates the character development in Homecoming where Peter was Spider-Man even without Tony’s suit
@@edgarlomeli11 Are you talking about the scene where he makes his suit on the jet? That scene is about him stepping up to take the responsibility of being a bigger hero on his own. He’s using technology that isn’t his to help make the suit, but he is the one taking charge and creating this suit for himself by himself. He’s not the next Iron Man, but he is the next big hero like Iron Man
I don’t like it because he lowkey learns a very similar lesson in FFH just like in homecoming. Learning to be his own hero instead of trying to be an avenger. Also I just had some pet peeves in that movie but it’s a very entertaining movie 👍
My favourite part about homecoming is that movie is about choice, Peter most of time needs to choose where and what to do, and even tho he mostly choses right thing, all People in his life tell him otherwise, i would reallly Like that type Netflix "chose your own adventure" movies for this cause of that
The people who use the “Iron Boy Jr” argument clearly don’t understand MCU Spider-Man or payed attention to any time he appears. Each and every single time we see Peter on screen, he is attempting to become his own hero. That’s what Homecoming is all about. Realizing that he IS something without the suit with the fancy tech. He’s Peter Parker. He’s Spider-Man. And every single time we see him after Homecoming, he is his own hero.
@@YazielEsquivel23 It really didn’t. Peter just misses a friend, Tony, in Far From Home. He never tries to be the next iron man and when he is gifted that opportunity throughout the film, he turns it down. He even gets overwhelmed by people telling him that he is the next iron man which eventually clouds his judgement and leads him to give the glasses to Mysterio.
@@ventusvanitas7544 From someone who was saved by Spider-Man, emotionally and physically, I say I know the character pretty well. I wouldn’t say Tom Holland is my favorite interpretation of the character but he is in fact a good one, just executed in a different way.
@@YazielEsquivel23 not really, far from home wasn't much about iron man as was it about the avengers as a whole; what could he do in a world without its people for even peter to look up to?
Both you and Hi-Tops Films made equally valid points and agree with both of you (mostly). Despite some of the issues I had with it, Homecoming is a great film. That said, I still don't know if it's No 5 in my Top 5 MCU ranking (currently tied with Avengers 1 and GOTG1 for that place). It was better than Far From Home definitely.
@@bgksm7201 Yeah, Far From Home is objectively great, (I say objectively because I have a few personal issues with it that keep me from liking it, and if I were to explain why, it would just be High Top Films’ video playing) but I think the point that Johnny is trying to make is that Homecoming is better than Far From Home, not that it’s necessarily objectively bad.
@@master0fthearts894 I agree, it's not a bad film. Just very.... idk bog standard. Like slightly above average. It felt too forced like it tried to outdo Homecoming.
I love the tones of these 2 movies. It isn’t over dramatic or anything. It’s a fun Spider-Man stories with some serious moments and they’re slowly increasing the scale and stakes. I can’t wait for the tonal shift in no way home
@@kyleco9149 yeah I watched a video essay on it. The original Spider-Man comics aren’t as melodramatic as people make them out to be. I still loves those kinds of Spider-Man stories like Spider-Man 2, it’s just nice to see a change
What makes Spider-Man: Homecoming work, is fact that Peter is willing to live a normal life amongst average people. But he can't, cause he's a superhero with spectacular powers. And despite him loving his 2nd identify, we can see that Peter really doesn't have a choice. That what makes Spider-Man: Homecoming feel so realistic, that all of us have a choice. It's the choices that makes us who we are and we can always do what's right. [Last Quote from Spider-Man 3, lel]
I can see why people criticise Far From Home as having Peter being like ‘Iron Man Jr’ but Homecoming? His arc in the movie is to literally not rely on his suit and Stark and defeats Vulture using his crappy homemade suit and manages to hang on to a plane. Also damn it was refreshing to have a relatively low staked superhero movie but even then I see people complain the stakes feel low but then hate on the MCU for having too big of threats. Also, how is Vulture in any way connected to Stark? Sure he got fired due to Stark industries but he doesn’t even have a vengeance against Tony like Mysterio does. He’s just providing for his family. I can see why Far From Home can get some hate even though I personally enjoy it more than Homecoming. It really depends on expectations though. I didn’t mind the tie ins to the MCU cause it’s an MCU movie. I expected that stuff and it helps makes the series seem more connected instead of DCEU where every entry that’s not Wonder Woman or the Snyder movies feel like completely different universes.
Homecoming was the only live action Spiderman I’ve seen that really captured Spiderman as just a kid. I love that his wants are so simplistic, but relatable and he’s just such a good kid that’s trying to do his very best. The scene with him under the rubble cracks my heart because the stakes feel real and Tom’s acting is so excellent making Peter’s genuine fear/regret of not thinking through his actions or thinking he’s invincible feel really visceral. I just utterly adore this film. The little moments like this are just so well done.
People say that far from home “takes away his character development” and while that looks true on the surface but if you really look he’s basically being forced to use Tony’s suits
@@junaydfisher211 The whole point of homecoming is that under the normal circumstances Spider-Man will always be the grounded friendly neighborhood hero.. but after the endgame event Peter was forced to use everything he could to stop a bigger threat even if it means using Stark tech. Also one of the reasons why he gave up Edith is because he didn't want anything to do with Tony tech and it's something that's bigger than him
@@HusseinItami wasn't a major character arc of the movie, him proving that he is more than the suit and that he doesn't need it? Like from the ferry scene to the vulture fight? And then when Tony offers him an even more powerful suit he turns it down, in favor if just doing other friendly neighborhood spider stuff. And when you say after endgame do you mean that he needed a stark suit during endgame(cause sure, I that case I agree), or he needed it to fight mysterio? Because Imo the only reason he needed a stark suit was because he didn't bring any suit to begin with, the whole field trip was supposed to be about him doing anything but spider stuff, but his plans get ruined. He has to use the night monkey suit because that's what shield/sword gave him and asked him to fight the threat. At the final fight the only reason he needed to create another stark suit was because he brought none and the night monkey suit got destroyed on the train. The mcu spider-man who is more than capable created his own web shooters and he could have made his own suit at home just like he did with the web shooters.
Yes, but the writers wrote the plot so he would be forced to. They didn't need to do that. Far From Home could've been written entirely different. Damage his suits, wreck his life, make the Aunt May discovery a difficulty rather than a joke, and have Mysterio come in as a 'new hero' that tarnishes his reputation, isolating him from the Avengers and Happy and Pepper. Then have Peter learn to overcome these obstacles. It's not hard to write a Spider-Man story, just have him lose everything and work his way through it. HC is a good Spider-Man movie. Far From Home is a well done superhero comedy but a poorly done Spider-Man story.
@Erik Kemeey 1) His character development was for an unnecessary arc. We already saw him learn to be his on hero and not try to live up to other's standards. Now we see him struggle again to be his own hero and live up to other's standards. It's like HC all over again, but with a twist. 2) I didn't even talk about his spider-sense. But yes, I'm irritated they called it the 'Peter tingle' and wrote it out of the story for a bit. I'm fully aware they brought it back with zero explanation in the climax. 3) Having him struggle with his personal life isn't Spider-Man 2 all over again. Read the comics and you'll see he has his life fall apart regularly, and it happens in different ways each time. I don't want the same story constantly, I just want the character in a kind of story that demonstrates who he is and what makes Peter Parker the unique kind of super hero he is. Instead, before NWH, MCU Spider-Man is treated like countless Marvel (or DC) younger characters that constantly (to the point of irritation) are trying to work their way out of the shadows of the more classic heroes. We're talking Spider-Man here, the face of Marvel. Why is he living in Iron Man's shadow? There are different characters to tell that story with.
Wow you made an excellent point about Tom Holland’s Peter Parker coming of age in a world where superheroes are already present. It makes me appreciate his films as a more modern take on Spider-Man and it makes sense that he wouldn’t face the same plights as the previous interpretations of Spider-Man would have. Also the scene where peters stuck under the rubble still gives me goosebumps to this day.
The truth is, we already have two versions of Spider-Man with the origins. Tom Holland's Spiderman is a Spider-Man that interacts with other marvel heros like he does in the comics. Crossovers happen so often in the comics and it's good to have a Spiderman that isn't just in his own world.
Fun fact. This was my 1st superhero movie that I watched in theaters. And now I watched no way home in theaters which is good. I honestly think these two movies are really good. These two and Raimi films are the best live action spiderman content.
My favorite is actually The Amazing Spider-Man. It, to me, totally shows the teenager side of Peter. He’s edgy as hell, he’s a show off. But most of all, he makes mistakes. I never saw that before. It was always “life is hard I need a break”, while this movie shows he’s a teenager. Also his fight with lizard in the high school is one of the best fights NGL.
I'll always remember the scene where Peter is stuck under the debris, shouting and crying for his dear life. That made me feel so bad for him. He's just a kid trying to do good. He doesn't deserve to get hurt 😢
I think there are certain positives to Spider-Man becoming an Avenger in IW and FFH. To me, it's akin to a graduation. Peter decides in Homecoming that he's fine staying low to the ground, but now he's forced to be a big superhero whether he wants to or not. For example, at FEAST in FFH he's bombarded with so many questions that go over his head, he asks "does anyone have any friendly neighborhood questions?" He doesn't want the responsibility of being an avenger because he doesn't feel ready, hence giving Mysterio Edith. Then he realizes Mysterio manipulated him into feeling unworthy, and Happy assures him that he doesn't have to do things perfect to do the right thing with his power. Then Peter defeats Mysterio, showing that he's broken through the illusion that he's not ready to grow up (be an avenger). Not that FFH is perfect, Brad is stupid and Mysterio didn't need to be connected to Stark, but I think the core of the story is an interesting continuation of Homecoming.
I have learned to appreciate homecoming more and more after rewatching...i remembered being incredibly dissapointed walking out of the theater probably because of the high expectations i had since everyone was raving about it calling it the best spider-man movie ever..although i still prefer far from home
i agree completely! i really dislike how overlooked this movie is in the spiderman community because its so darn fun, charming, emotional and rewatchable. the camera work is really vibrant and just nice to look at (which is ESPECIALLY overlooked by many people as well). there are spiderman films which i consider to be absolutely flawless, yet i always find myself watching this again every few months because its just that enjoyable for some reason
Homecoming is genuinely such an amazing Spider-Man movie. I really don't understand people attacking it. "He's Iron Boy Jr" even though Stark only saved him once, and he beat the Vulture without Stark Tech. That rubble scene is peak Spider-Man, it's literally the embodiment of that character. Ditching his friends for the greater good, getting his clock cleaned, and still finding the will in him to go and do the right thing, to stop the guy who is literally the worst case of "meeting the parents." Vulture being a perfect villain by the way. The scene where Tony takes away the suit, and Peter realizes Spider-Man is within him and not the suit reminds me so much of Superman as a character. His greatest trait is is humanity, which is in all of us. Similarly, Spider-Man's greatest trait is his humanity and willingness to help others, something we all have (evident with how Mauricio dressed up as Spider-Man for Halloween and gave candy to kids). I personally love Homecoming, and i'm glad that in this ocean of hate towards Holland's Spider-Man (brought about by people like (with all, all due respect) HiTop Films and (no due respect whatsoever) The Amazing Lucas), there's people who appreciate the movie for what it is, and not what it could or should be. Also, wow i never noticed how Peter made up his mind 10 minutes ago after that car ride. Can't believe i missed that detail!
@@bgksm7201 it is decent, and Peter had a good arc of getting out of Tony's shadow, but i feel it didn't have the friendly neighbourhood feel that Homecoming does. Still, it's a solid 7/10.
The monument setpiece is great, and I get what they were going for, but I never really bought that Peter was in any real danger when he could’ve just shot a web to catch himself, even if he did slip. Peter himself doesn’t really acknowledge this either. All they had to do was have his web shooters break in some way, and it would’ve played better.
It’s a chill funny comic book movie, the movie doesn’t try to act to serious or force meaning it’s a kid chilling with his bro and it’s executed perfectly
I found Homecoming to be a mixed bag, although I do think that the good outweighs the bad. And The Vulture contributed to both good and bad aspects of the film. To the good,Micheal Keaton as The Vulture is unquestionably my favorite villain from any Spider-Man film so far. But to the film's detriment--and I don't think that this is the reaction that most people had while watching it--I liked and identified with Keaton's character so much that as I watched the film for the first time, I kept finding myself thinking things like,"Yeah,Peter! You're young and you don't really understand how the world works yet." And I don't think that I was supposed to be thinking things like that. I don't feel like any piece of Spider-Man media should do that,and I don't think that the filmmakers themselves intended to have that effect on anyone either. But it had that effect on me...
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video!! Thank you so much Brown Table! I always see a lot of hate for the MCU Spider-Man saga or Tom Holland as Spider-Man because it isn’t the Spider-Man they see or that “He can’t live up to what Tobey or even Andrew did before”. But the thing is, both those past sagas of Spider-Man were made in different circumstances. Two with no other heroes in the world, and one with many that defined what being a hero is. I’m so glad you out this argument in its place and hopefully to bed as well, and that hopefully this “Iron Boy Jr.” stuff can stop. He is Spider-Man, in his own way
I think it makes sense that Spiderman becomes an Avenger anyway, but often times, the smaller things are connected to bigger things. Like Vulture's motivation.
I kinda get why people don't like FFH but I don't agree with it at all. I don't see how it undoes this story. I feel like it adds to it. Civil War is Spidey meeting his heros and being brought into this bigger world. Homecoming is exactly what you said in the video. Him realizing that Spider-Man is more than the suit or who gave it to him. Then Infinity War/Endgame showed how much he's grown as a hero and that he can handle the small scale stuff as well as the Avengers level stuff. He's cracking jokes because his spider sense goes off and he thinks they're about to fight a bunch of Aliens. HES NEVER FOUGHT AN ALIEN BEFORE!! He proves that he could be an Avenger so Tony makes him one. In this universe, being an Avenger is a high honor and not like being an Avenger in the comics so you have to separate the two. Then, to me, Far From Home is not retelling homecoming. To me, it's actually building upon it. He knows he's a hero. He knows hes got the trust of the Avengers but now that guy who made him one is dead. Caps gone. Widows dead. Visions dead. And evidently Thor, Doctor Strange, and Captain Marvel are all doing superhero stuff. Now he's expected to just be able to handle the big scale stuff that he JUST STARTED DOING! But not only that, he's expected to do it alone. He knows he can go up against Vulture and some crooks with tech. No biggie but now he's got to fight world destroying monsters without an Avenger to guide him through this stuff? He felt safe in IF/EG because of everyone else around him. He doesn't know Fury or Mysterio. And now the world just expects this kid who probably has a bit of PTSD to just go ham on the big stuff like that's all he's ever done. He needed the Avengers to fight Thanos but now they're all busy and he's all they got. Now his friends are in danger and he thinks he's about to lose a girl he really likes and just when he thinks hes okay and out of it all Fury adds more pressure by giving him those glasses and putting his friends in the middle of it when Peter was specifically trying to avoid that. By the end of the movie, he learns that hes going to make mistakes and that it's okay because even the heros he thought never made mistakes did exactly that. He already learned that he is a hero but now he's learning that being hero isnt about being perfect but that it's about fighting even when it feels like you've made every mistake possible. He is just as capable as his idols. So he makes a suit that he wants to make and he makes the plan and he stops Mysterio all by himself, gets the girl, and is happily ever after...except he made more mistakes by being too careless with his identity because he's too nice of a guy and is too trusting so the consequences of that is him losing that secret to the world but not only that but they think he killed someone the world thinks is a hero. Parker luck. Every movie so far has him lose just when he thinks he's won. Every single one with the exception of Civil War. To me they work hand in hand like a comic story arc. Each movie and issue building up to the final issue which is No Way Home. A culmination of his mistakes and struggles. Just my take tho
I personally don’t mind spider man homecoming, it’s a decent even good entry in the MCU and is very entertaining and fun to watch, but I wouldn’t call it an “Amazing movie” or even a great spider man movie. My problems with this movie are that it feels like a gateway for many plot points of the mcu converging into a spider man story, and it just doesn’t “Feel” like a spider man movie, because it lacks that distinct spider man tone and style that was present in the ramiverse or even the Marc Webb films. I did however really like Michael Keaton’s Vulture and the dynamic between Tony Stark and Peter Parker. So homecoming is good, but not great imo.
I think this comment is too vague to be a proper criticism of the movie. You say that it lacks the distinct Spider-Man tone present in the Raimi and Webb films, but you don't define what that tone consists of.
Personally what puts me off is what the film skips or makes irrelevant in what any other Spider-Man story would‘ve been a source of drama. Peter bails out of his team at the last minute, but now wants back in. Does he get scolded for flaking and expecting to be welcomed back? No, it’s played for laughs and he’s instantly welcomed back. He ends up not being able to make it to the decathlon. Does his team maybe lose, and get angry at Peter for maybe costing them the game after being so gracious to him? Nah, they win anyways so they don’t care he’s pretty much gotten a free vacation. “I’m nothing without this suit.” Peter you saved lives for six months in pajamas before even meeting Tony, why are you going through Tony’s Iron Man 3 story arc? Aunt May now knows Peter is Spider-Man, which has never been done before. They literally skip all the drama and get to the point where Aunt May can make light jokes of Peter’s literal day to day confrontations with death.
I’ve noticed this pattern of anyone who hates Far From Home or thinks that it undoes what homecoming did, or blindly says Spider-Man 2 is the greatest, is a bully and is nothing really like Peter Parker.
spider-man homecoming will always be my favorite film, it reflects responsibility in a new way, and what is striking is that youthful atmosphere that the film plays, it is my favorite because Without knowing anything about the character, I identified myself and fell in love with him. Homecoming is a great movie!
Holy shit!! That's a great pov, i.e. Peter lives in a world, where being a super-hero is pre-defined, which makes it all the more difficult for him to decide what kind of super-hero he wants to be. 🤯
Something I feel people miss regarding "Iron Boy Jr." is that Peter Parker is a second-generation hero in the MCU, whereas he was part of the original generation in the Comics. MCU Peter is like Kamala Kahn or the Young Avengers, is what I'm saying.
He only got the Iron Spider suit in “Infinity War” because he needed it for space if I remember correctly he was about to die from lack of oxygen so Tony sent in the Iron Spider suit. In “Spider-Man: Far From Home” he only uses it for I think one scene and he isn’t even fighting anyone it was for a press conference where it is the people comparing him to Iron Man, not him. That’s what the movie was about for Peter to stop caring what other people expect of him and to continue down his own path. Mysterio didn’t target Tony or anyone close to him specifically; he targeted Peter to get his glasses, which he only desired for his plans, which Peter gave to him making it his responsibility to stop him.
LOOK OK, I didn’t HATE Tom Holland’s Spider man I just never enjoyed him as much I did with Tobey and Andrew. BUT, I think now that I’ve seen this video, I can now see that Tom Holland is now more of something for himself and an EQUAL to Tobey and Andrew. (Although I’ve always believed they were all AMAZING Spider men)
A thing I love about this Movie is that it reminded me why I love Spider-Man. The only content in the past few years were billionaire Spidey, the Ultimate Spider-Man series and the TASM2, which wasn't really for me. HOMECOMING shows a Spider-Man I relate to and I love it. It's by far my favorite live action Spider-Man movie.
@@ventusvanitas7544 yeah ITSV is awesome but I said HC is my favorite live-action Spider-man movie. Not my favorite mainstream Spidey content of the last few years.
Homecoming is a genuinely a good Spider-Man movie. I really liked how they made him grow to be independent and stand by his values. For me, the problem is that they backtracked this development in Far From Home. It sounds like you agree though.
I still disagree with you about Far From Home being a bad movie, but I absolutely love this video. Homecoming is my favorite Spider-Man movie, and it’s really sad that even though people have understandable reasons why they don’t like the movie, there are people who treat it as an abomination and as a symbol of everything that Spider-Man doesn’t stand for. Which, as a Spider-Man fan, hurts me on a personal level due to my love for this character. And I think you hit every nail on the head accurately. Homecoming is not Spider-Man 2, and it’s not trying to be Spider-Man 2. But, that’s a good thing. Spider-Man 2 is not the only way to make a good Spider-Man movie, and while it’s one of the best CBMs of all time, we should be encouraging Marvel and Sony to make different Spider-Man films and tell different stories with this character. Maybe the MCU Spider-Man isn’t for everyone, and that’s fine. If the Raimi trilogy is your preferred Spider-Man story, then that’s great. But, I love the MCU Spider-Man. There are people who aren’t going to love his films (and even though I disagree with you that FFH is a bad movie, I still respect your opinion about it nonetheless), but that doesn’t mean that those who do should be ridiculed or should be considered “fake Spider-Man fans”. I see too much hate for this movie and FFH on Twitter, and it gets exhausting after a while. So, I want to personally thank you for making this video. You always know how to tell fair and respectful arguments in your videos, and I wish the Spider-Man community was more like you. Thank you for the work you put into making this video. I really appreciate it. 🙏🏽
I loved homecoming when I first saw it in theatres and I still really like it now, tho I do genuinely despise the sequel even after giving it another chance. Inspite of that however, I wouldn't consider someone a fake fan for liking or disliking a certain move, you do you bro, don't let the toxic hateful fans get to you.
@@ayaanabdullah937 Thanks, man. I try not to, I just have a deep personal connection with this character, especially this version. So, it gets hard ignoring the negativity surrounding him. But, this is something that every Spider-Man fan deals with sometimes, even Raimi and Webb fans. So, I need to learn to not let it bug me. Thank you. 😌
@@keyshawnwatkins4362 Same here, I also connected to Spider-Man during my troubled high school years and found him relatable, and even tho I had my favourites (Spectacular, PS4, and Comic Peter) I still really like all versions of this guy and thought that Homecoming did something super fresh with him despite still keeping the feel of Spider-Man alive, and hey, here's hoping NWH brings the whole fandom together because of how good it can be.
@@ayaanabdullah937 I’m praying on it. This could be the film that will unite the entire Spider-Man fanbase. I have full faith in Marvel and I know they’ll deliver us something great.
I remember some people complaining that the big decision was too low stakes, but I think that works better. Most of the time, Peter's choices are framed as either being selfish or preventing a death, multiple deaths or an obvious catastrophe. I think it's a lot easier to make the selfless choice then. But it was a lot easier to be tempted by Vulture's weapons heist. It's a seemingly harmless crime against someone he could've hated. He could've easily looked the other way and had his "normal" life. But in the end, he didn't.
@Erik Kemeey I don't think its bad if thats what you got from the comment, I just think it missed the mark in some areas def not bad tho, 7-7.5/10. Just overall it let the trilogy down a bit because both homecoming and no way home are 9/10
@Erik Kemeey It feels like a filler movie, And the overarching message for peter is just Meh, the whole identity crisis on filling in IM shoes could’ve been executed better without making peter seem so incompetent. I’ll say my biggest gripe with it was how naive they made Peter in this film.
I loved Homecoming so much. I loved how it still made it feel like a high school movie/vibe, but really showed the struggle of being an amateur among the worlds greatest heroes. Far From Home was a good film, but not a good spider man film. It lacked that feel that I loved so much from Homecoming.
Its just so freaking beautiful how Brown table makes these videos and video essays he does it in a beautiful understanding way with amazing words and great editing One underated youtuber
I remember when it came out I loved it Then discourse took hold and well, I was definitely swayed more towards “bad Spider-Man movie" and remained firm in that camp till FFH Then FFH came around (oof, that film was not for me)...and needless to say not only did I seek solace in my favorite films of the previous iterations (the first TASM, and Spider-Man 2) I also re-sparked a love for Homecoming. It's by far the least accurate Peter Parker yeah, but I love it for daring to be different and taking inspirations from very unique sources that all amalgamated into this warm coming of age story that wears it's Hughes influence on its sleeve, while allowing Watts to play with elements of the Spider-Man mythos that he felt played into that style of film and giving him the opportunity to exercise a VERY deep dive into the material (such as Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, and the broader world pieces of early Ultimate Comics Miles Morales stories). I'd honestly say that Homecoming right along Spider-Verse, TASM, and Spider-Man 2, are the best examples of a great Spider-Man movie.
What I really like about Homecoming is that it's the only Spiderman movie (except Into The Spider-verse) that isn't a love story. Peter wants to be an Avenger more than getting the girl.
God I love seeing videos like this. People don't credit this version of spider-man enough for what's it's trying to do. Homecoming is my fav Spiderman movie right behind ITSV and Spiderman 2.
Homecoming is one of my favourite superhero movies period. Probably in my top 10, yes up there with GOTG, the dark knight, incredibles, avengers 1, infinity war and endgame all those beasts. Its such an easy movie to watch with little to no context of the mcu, it does a good job of explaining points to the audience that happened prior to this movie which is always great. I'd say Tom Holland is my favourite spiderman/ Peter portrayal tied with yuri lowenthal in the ps4 game.
I don’t get how people still don’t understand Far From Home. Peter isn’t fighting Tony’s war for him. Because if Tony was still alive, Mysterio wouldn’t exist. Mysterio exist because of 2 catalysts, Tony dismissing beck’s tech, and infinity war/Endgame. Is it contrived and probably not a smart idea to give those glasses to Peter? Of course! But Tony knew if he gave them to Ross or Rhodes, they’d go straight to the military and Tony didn’t want that. He trusted Peter because he probably knew Peter wouldn’t really use them and probably store them away. Mysterio is Peter’s enemy. He has a personal connection to Peter, he’s a fantastic villain, but to top it off, beck and the world are essentially what JJJ represents in issue 50 of Stan Lee’s original 100 issue run. Peter doesn’t quit being Spiderman for a girl, nor does his life get better. He quits because someone else’s voice was louder than his. He is lied to by MJ to make him think she never actually liked him. Peter didn’t wanna be Spider-Man because he didn’t think he could live up to it. Partly because of Tony. If Homecoming was about Self Actualization, the Far From Home is about Self Worth and listening to your own voice above everyone else’s. Far From Home is literally the only marvel movie in general to make me cry because of that lesson. FFH may not be the greatest Spiderman movie, thats ITSV, but it definitely captures Spiderman and definitely is a lot closer to the comics than Spiderman 2.
@@daryltor7608 I didn’t say FFH was better than Spiderman 2. Spiderman 2 is a better film over all, but FFH is a better Spider-Man movie that is a lot closer to the comics than Spiderman 2.
@@daryltor7608 i like Raimis interpretation of Spider no more But I have to agree that Spiderman far from home is a bit more comic accurate to the complete moral
With how good this movie is it really hurts how underwhelming the sequel is. Makes me worried about No Way Home and how that will be soured or move past the sequel.
I'd like Homecoming so much more if it felt like it had some actual depth of character that wasn't just surface level. With Spider-Man in the MCU already having his powers, I feel like we never truly got to know Peter(deeply) and his life and his personal struggles outside of his suit, something I think a Spider-Man movie needs and something Raimi's movies and Spider-Verse does very well. So I do respectfully disagree.
@@nickreed3924 I'm saying that it isn't good. It's surface level, it's serviceable at best. I'm less invested in Peter in his 2 Spider-Man movies and 2 Avengers movies then I am with Miles Morales in Spiderverse alone.
I agree, it's like they count on you already knowing the character that you'll just be happy with whatever they give you. It feels like because they didn't go with the classic origin and that they actively try to avoid doing anything that was already in a previous spider-man movie, that they decided to try to kinda give a sense of an origin with tying him to the avengers and being in their shadow, and Tony stark as the kinda uncle Ben figure. I mean it definitely connects their version of spider-man well to the rest of the mcu, but once you take out any mcu stuff, the movie doesn't stand well on its own. It's not deep enough and doesn't feel like something that could be it's own thing, like doctor strange or antman, or the guardians of the galaxy, it just feels like another episode in the mcu.
I honestly think Spider-Man: Homecoming is really good MCU movie, but I still don't fully agree that it was a Peter Parker movie(at least for me). One of the most interesting and heartwarming arcs that I really love about the TASM comics was Peter growing out of his toxic loner attitude. The first issue shows this perfectly! If I'm not mistaken, the first story shows how bad the effects of uncle Ben's death was both monetaraly and mentally for Peter, the second story showing him trying to stop villain only to get framed, and third story was about him realizing that joining the FF could genuinely help him with his money troubles only for him to learn that they're a non-profit. It took him time to grow out of it. It always seemed as though the world was against him, but as the years grew he opened up to his future wife, finding similarities in the both of them, to his frail aunt that he was to scared to tell, then finally the FF. Becoming more than a member, He was apart of the family
Good stuff man. Really showed off Homecomings strengths, or rather that Homecoming IS strong. A lot of what you said about how Peter had to find his own path to being a hero reminds me of my favorite Spider-man movie *Spider-verse* . Miles in a way has the same kinda set up as MCU peter, being amongst accomplished Spider-men who’ve all walked the walk before him, and struggling to find his way to achieve that. When the Peters and the Miles trust themselves they arrive as Spider-man, and thats pretty awesome
This video helped remind me of how I felt leaving the theater after watching Homecoming. Genuine thrills, good laughs, and a great continuation from Civil War for Spidey. Fantastic video, I really love your content!!
I feel like MCU's Spider-Man is faithful to the original Stan Lee's run of the character, while Sam Raimi's Spider-Man is his own interpretation of the character. Not saying that's a bad thing just an observation.
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@@FullFatVideos lmao
@hightopfilms is quaking
I miss your old sarcastic reviews :(
Awesome
I love the idea of peter trying to seem worse at something, in order to keep his identity. An example of this in Homecoming is when he's doing sit ups in gym class effortlessly, his teacher walks by and says something like 'looking good peter', then after hearing that peter begins to pretend the sit ups are hard for him and that he's exhausted from doing them. Little details like that r the reason I love spiderman movies.
Lol I don’t see how being fit makes you Spider-Man tho. There just sit ups
@@zzirfamo24 he was nerd before becoming spiderman, being fit itself isnt suspicious, its the fact that he wasnt fit before spiderman started appearing
The one thing I would personally change in the movie is near the end, Stark doesn’t give Peter back the red and blue Stark suit, but Peter makes his own suit. This could further send the idea that Peter has become his own hero, and it’d be a nice “suit-making montage” that I’ve kind of been missing in superhero movies. Aside from that, I agree its a very solid Spider-Man movie.
My thoughts exactly
I think Peter would need a miracle to make his own suit in the mcu since he’s basically poor. I like him having stark tech but making his own thing with access to it as he does in far from home. As long as he made the web fluid I don’t really care
@@RealogOnlyBrodie wdym a miracle Spider-Man is a genius in the ps4 game his tech comes from dumpster diving and in the comics his suit has always been made out of CLOTH if peter can make super advanced web fluid with chemicals in science class he can make tech
@@On1yGreen peter gets his web fluid from chemicals in school as shown in homecoming but for peter to make a suit as durable as stark tech which he would require as his villains use alien tech and stark tech would be a hard task.
@@RealogOnlyBrodie well in the 1st secret wars he wears his regular cloth suit before the black suit and in the first Infinity war he fights thanos in regular cloth
I find that very few of the Spider-Man movies are true stinkers. Overall its been a pretty consistent franchise, and I can even see the merit in my least favourite iterations like ASM 1 and 2. Spider-Man 3 is a mixed bag but the good outweighs the bad for me, and the same is true of both Tom Holland solo adventures. I'm excited to see all three come together in No Way Home and I hope it makes some strides towards uniting the fanbase.
EXACTLY well said! my thoughts too :)
True, I don’t think none of them suck. For me, the Sam Raimi trilogy is my favorite, TASM 1 I also adore and Homecoming is fun. TASM 2 and FFH are my least favorite but still a fine watch.
@@AnglesSol yeah same here
Nice to see Full Fat Mat
i rlly think tasm 2 is dreadful but thats just me
what I like about vulture's development is how he after not being able to get a better life by geting envolved in crime he changes his mindset and ends up becoming the owner of mcdonalds👍
His mindset evolved into a grindset
The Founder is a great movie
I mean, when we see him in the present he’s squarely in the upper-middle class. He’s got a big, nice house with a pool. And that’s the fascinating thing. He starts out as the little guy, stepped on by the government and eking out a life by turning to crime. Now, however, he’s got his own little weapons empire and living a good life.
@Mystic nah I got it
Uh I think he became even more evil when he was fucking over the real innovators of fast food, the true McDonald's Brothers
The idea of having the Vulture run a business of dangerous weapons and collecting scraps is genius. The suit and wings look good, as well as Michael Keaton's performance
Yeah I still don't see why people think Doc Ock is better than Vulture.
Vulture has made his own weapon empire for the sole purpose of giving his daugher a good life.
Doc Ock wants to finish a machine and becomes schizophremic
Who has better motivations?
I totally agree with how Spider-Man: Homecoming is a great Spider-Man Movie...hopefully Marvel takes this into account when they make the next Spider-Man SOLO movie.
Can’t wait for December 17!!
@@uajrh1 *ahem* Spider-Man SOLO movie.
@@littleredruri it is a solo movie..
@@uajrh1 We'll see
@@uajrh1 no it’s not lol 😂
This is one of those movies you don't realize is as good as it is until you rewatch it.
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Too true. I always like it but I'm still always suprised at how great it is every time I rewatch. The perfect feel good movie
Interesting, this instantly became my top 3 favorite Marvel movies the first time I watched it.
Really? It was love at first sight practically for me. The rewatches only add more depth to the love though
Just rewatched it again today and I love it even more than I did originally, although I still adored it on the first watch!
Homecoming would be my favourite Spider-Man film, but Spider-Verse exists. But the fact it’s close probably says a lot about how good it is. Also, this review gave me like, 100 more reasons to love this movie. Great essay!
Same with Spider-Verse existing.
Fr dude Spider-verse is just too good for me to ever say I have a different favorite Spiderman movie lol
I don't get the hype for spider verse. It's my least favorite spider-man movie of all time.
@@BreydanArchibald
1. The animation is some of the best ever created
2. The story and everything has a very good sense of who Spiderman is/should be
3. The action, comedy, and acting are all top notch
4. It's full of Easter eggs and fun tidbits
That's just my opinion, why don't you like it? just curious
@@BreydanArchibald having it as ur least favorite u gotta b like racist or sum bruh cuz ain’t no way 😭
FINALLY someone recognizes the brilliance of Spider-Man: Homecoming. One of the best MCU movies and my favorite live action Spider-Man movie.
@Slyver Spider-Man 2 is the most overrated superhero movie ever.
@@carlossalgado3677 anyone claiming homecoming is better than Spider-Man 2 is clearly wrong
@@carlossalgado3677 idk about that one chief
@Slyver Imagine being disrespectful over someone's opinion and favorite movie, couldn't be me
@@carlossalgado3677 L
While I still respectfully disagree with the approach that the movie takes to Spider-Man’s character & arc, this video still does a great job highlighting the merit in their concepts. Well done!
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It’s because of you that I started loving Spider-Man: Homecoming again. Thanks for that, Lord Mauricio 👏🏼👏🏼
I love Homecoming, it has a really fun and easy going feel that not only felt like old John Hughes films but also feels like a nice simple Spider-Man comic but has a great idea and theme of Spider-Man.
The “come on Spiderman” scene is just as iconic as the train scene, change my mind.
Id say give it a couple more years and the raimi simps will give it more attention and it'll be more iconic
@@Mr.Murphy2802 I wish people could just meet in the middle and enjoy both movies. Like I get liking the Raimi movies better (I do) but that's no reason to trash or ignore the new stuff
@@-Teague- same its annoying asf, the raimi movies have aged poorly yet theyre treated like the second coming of christ, every spiderman movie has its flaws yet the raimi fans r too ignorant to see their movies arent perfect
@@Mr.Murphy2802 they definitely aren't perfect but they are still fantastic movies. Just curious, what about them do you mean has aged poorly?
@@-Teague- oh fr theyre all fantastic but flawed. And by aged poorly I mean they're extremely cliche, very awkward performances from some of the cast, something just feels off about them at times especially the first one
absolutely love the Holland Spider-Man. that scene where he's under the collapsed building is one of my all time favourite Spider-Man moments
If Homecoming is about Peter being a friendly neighborhood hero and Infinity War is about thrusting him into a greater role, then Far From Home is his struggle to deal with that responsibility of being greater all by himself. It’s not something he wants for himself, he’d prefer to be a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and go on vacation with his crush and have his cake and eat it too, but with great power comes great responsibility, so he accepts that role of being a greater hero in order to correct his mistake of trying to give that to Mysterio. The spidey sense subplot could’ve been handled better, but ultimately it’s a metaphor for Peter trusting himself to handle the burden of being that greater hero and accepting responsibility. I find Far From Home to be one of the best Spider-Man movies and I still don’t understand why you don’t like it.
I completely agree
Finally, someone says it. I feel like most of the criticisms people throw at FFH are more applicable to homecoming (though I like both)
this is what it could be about, but the scene where he pretty much becomes Spider Iron Man kills all character development of his. He goes back to being reliant on Tony and negates the character development in Homecoming where Peter was Spider-Man even without Tony’s suit
@@edgarlomeli11 Are you talking about the scene where he makes his suit on the jet? That scene is about him stepping up to take the responsibility of being a bigger hero on his own. He’s using technology that isn’t his to help make the suit, but he is the one taking charge and creating this suit for himself by himself. He’s not the next Iron Man, but he is the next big hero like Iron Man
I don’t like it because he lowkey learns a very similar lesson in FFH just like in homecoming. Learning to be his own hero instead of trying to be an avenger. Also I just had some pet peeves in that movie but it’s a very entertaining movie 👍
My favourite part about homecoming is that movie is about choice, Peter most of time needs to choose where and what to do, and even tho he mostly choses right thing, all People in his life tell him otherwise, i would reallly Like that type Netflix "chose your own adventure" movies for this cause of that
The people who use the “Iron Boy Jr” argument clearly don’t understand MCU Spider-Man or payed attention to any time he appears. Each and every single time we see Peter on screen, he is attempting to become his own hero. That’s what Homecoming is all about. Realizing that he IS something without the suit with the fancy tech. He’s Peter Parker. He’s Spider-Man. And every single time we see him after Homecoming, he is his own hero.
Yet far from home shat on that development...
@@YazielEsquivel23 It really didn’t. Peter just misses a friend, Tony, in Far From Home. He never tries to be the next iron man and when he is gifted that opportunity throughout the film, he turns it down. He even gets overwhelmed by people telling him that he is the next iron man which eventually clouds his judgement and leads him to give the glasses to Mysterio.
It really. It’s the opposite. Normies here don’t understand Spider-Man. He is Iron Boy Jr.
@@ventusvanitas7544 From someone who was saved by Spider-Man, emotionally and physically, I say I know the character pretty well. I wouldn’t say Tom Holland is my favorite interpretation of the character but he is in fact a good one, just executed in a different way.
@@YazielEsquivel23 not really, far from home wasn't much about iron man as was it about the avengers as a whole; what could he do in a world without its people for even peter to look up to?
Both you and Hi-Tops Films made equally valid points and agree with both of you (mostly). Despite some of the issues I had with it, Homecoming is a great film. That said, I still don't know if it's No 5 in my Top 5 MCU ranking (currently tied with Avengers 1 and GOTG1 for that place).
It was better than Far From Home definitely.
Far from home was great
Well
Far from home was actually good
@@bgksm7201 Yeah, Far From Home is objectively great, (I say objectively because I have a few personal issues with it that keep me from liking it, and if I were to explain why, it would just be High Top Films’ video playing) but I think the point that Johnny is trying to make is that Homecoming is better than Far From Home, not that it’s necessarily objectively bad.
@@master0fthearts894 far from home sucks man.
The movie feels like a wanna be teen comedy.
@@master0fthearts894 I agree, it's not a bad film. Just very.... idk bog standard. Like slightly above average. It felt too forced like it tried to outdo Homecoming.
Ok credit where credit is due! That transition at 00:20 is AMAZING
Homecoming and Far From Home have been among my favourite Spider Man films.
I'm hoping No Way Home makes a Home run for The Home Trilogy
Home Run should've been the name of the 3rd filmm instead hahha
I love the tones of these 2 movies. It isn’t over dramatic or anything. It’s a fun Spider-Man stories with some serious moments and they’re slowly increasing the scale and stakes. I can’t wait for the tonal shift in no way home
@@p.h.i.lcongure9168 it actually captures early ditko era pretty well
@@kyleco9149 yeah I watched a video essay on it. The original Spider-Man comics aren’t as melodramatic as people make them out to be. I still loves those kinds of Spider-Man stories like Spider-Man 2, it’s just nice to see a change
I pray for ther
What makes Spider-Man: Homecoming work, is fact that Peter is willing to live a normal life amongst average people. But he can't, cause he's a superhero with spectacular powers. And despite him loving his 2nd identify, we can see that Peter really doesn't have a choice.
That what makes Spider-Man: Homecoming feel so realistic, that all of us have a choice. It's the choices that makes us who we are and we can always do what's right.
[Last Quote from Spider-Man 3, lel]
It only works because normies will buy in mainstream live action movies really.
I can see why people criticise Far From Home as having Peter being like ‘Iron Man Jr’ but Homecoming? His arc in the movie is to literally not rely on his suit and Stark and defeats Vulture using his crappy homemade suit and manages to hang on to a plane. Also damn it was refreshing to have a relatively low staked superhero movie but even then I see people complain the stakes feel low but then hate on the MCU for having too big of threats. Also, how is Vulture in any way connected to Stark? Sure he got fired due to Stark industries but he doesn’t even have a vengeance against Tony like Mysterio does. He’s just providing for his family.
I can see why Far From Home can get some hate even though I personally enjoy it more than Homecoming. It really depends on expectations though. I didn’t mind the tie ins to the MCU cause it’s an MCU movie. I expected that stuff and it helps makes the series seem more connected instead of DCEU where every entry that’s not Wonder Woman or the Snyder movies feel like completely different universes.
Homecoming was the only live action Spiderman I’ve seen that really captured Spiderman as just a kid. I love that his wants are so simplistic, but relatable and he’s just such a good kid that’s trying to do his very best. The scene with him under the rubble cracks my heart because the stakes feel real and Tom’s acting is so excellent making Peter’s genuine fear/regret of not thinking through his actions or thinking he’s invincible feel really visceral. I just utterly adore this film. The little moments like this are just so well done.
Spidey isn’t meant to be a kid. He’s meant to be a growing man going through lower class hardships.
People say that far from home “takes away his character development” and while that looks true on the surface but if you really look he’s basically being forced to use Tony’s suits
But isn't the whole point of homecoming that he doesn't need Tony stark and by extension he doesn't need a stark suit?
@@junaydfisher211
The whole point of homecoming is that under the normal circumstances Spider-Man will always be the grounded friendly neighborhood hero.. but after the endgame event Peter was forced to use everything he could to stop a bigger threat even if it means using Stark tech. Also one of the reasons why he gave up Edith is because he didn't want anything to do with Tony tech and it's something that's bigger than him
@@HusseinItami wasn't a major character arc of the movie, him proving that he is more than the suit and that he doesn't need it? Like from the ferry scene to the vulture fight? And then when Tony offers him an even more powerful suit he turns it down, in favor if just doing other friendly neighborhood spider stuff. And when you say after endgame do you mean that he needed a stark suit during endgame(cause sure, I that case I agree), or he needed it to fight mysterio? Because Imo the only reason he needed a stark suit was because he didn't bring any suit to begin with, the whole field trip was supposed to be about him doing anything but spider stuff, but his plans get ruined. He has to use the night monkey suit because that's what shield/sword gave him and asked him to fight the threat. At the final fight the only reason he needed to create another stark suit was because he brought none and the night monkey suit got destroyed on the train. The mcu spider-man who is more than capable created his own web shooters and he could have made his own suit at home just like he did with the web shooters.
Yes, but the writers wrote the plot so he would be forced to. They didn't need to do that. Far From Home could've been written entirely different. Damage his suits, wreck his life, make the Aunt May discovery a difficulty rather than a joke, and have Mysterio come in as a 'new hero' that tarnishes his reputation, isolating him from the Avengers and Happy and Pepper. Then have Peter learn to overcome these obstacles.
It's not hard to write a Spider-Man story, just have him lose everything and work his way through it.
HC is a good Spider-Man movie. Far From Home is a well done superhero comedy but a poorly done Spider-Man story.
@Erik Kemeey 1) His character development was for an unnecessary arc. We already saw him learn to be his on hero and not try to live up to other's standards. Now we see him struggle again to be his own hero and live up to other's standards. It's like HC all over again, but with a twist.
2) I didn't even talk about his spider-sense. But yes, I'm irritated they called it the 'Peter tingle' and wrote it out of the story for a bit. I'm fully aware they brought it back with zero explanation in the climax.
3) Having him struggle with his personal life isn't Spider-Man 2 all over again. Read the comics and you'll see he has his life fall apart regularly, and it happens in different ways each time. I don't want the same story constantly, I just want the character in a kind of story that demonstrates who he is and what makes Peter Parker the unique kind of super hero he is. Instead, before NWH, MCU Spider-Man is treated like countless Marvel (or DC) younger characters that constantly (to the point of irritation) are trying to work their way out of the shadows of the more classic heroes. We're talking Spider-Man here, the face of Marvel. Why is he living in Iron Man's shadow? There are different characters to tell that story with.
I think after NWH, homecoming is even better, cuz you can see all the seeds they were planting
Wow you made an excellent point about Tom Holland’s Peter Parker coming of age in a world where superheroes are already present. It makes me appreciate his films as a more modern take on Spider-Man and it makes sense that he wouldn’t face the same plights as the previous interpretations of Spider-Man would have. Also the scene where peters stuck under the rubble still gives me goosebumps to this day.
The truth is, we already have two versions of Spider-Man with the origins. Tom Holland's Spiderman is a Spider-Man that interacts with other marvel heros like he does in the comics. Crossovers happen so often in the comics and it's good to have a Spiderman that isn't just in his own world.
Fun fact. This was my 1st superhero movie that I watched in theaters. And now I watched no way home in theaters which is good. I honestly think these two movies are really good. These two and Raimi films are the best live action spiderman content.
My favorite is actually The Amazing Spider-Man. It, to me, totally shows the teenager side of Peter. He’s edgy as hell, he’s a show off. But most of all, he makes mistakes. I never saw that before. It was always “life is hard I need a break”, while this movie shows he’s a teenager. Also his fight with lizard in the high school is one of the best fights NGL.
Yeah but when I think of Peter Parker he’s a nerd and unpopular. Andrew Garfield didn’t really have any of that
I'll always remember the scene where Peter is stuck under the debris, shouting and crying for his dear life. That made me feel so bad for him. He's just a kid trying to do good. He doesn't deserve to get hurt 😢
I lost it at the Hank bit, you’re truly the GOAT Mauricio
Finally Someone who understands Cinema 🎥
I think there are certain positives to Spider-Man becoming an Avenger in IW and FFH. To me, it's akin to a graduation. Peter decides in Homecoming that he's fine staying low to the ground, but now he's forced to be a big superhero whether he wants to or not. For example, at FEAST in FFH he's bombarded with so many questions that go over his head, he asks "does anyone have any friendly neighborhood questions?" He doesn't want the responsibility of being an avenger because he doesn't feel ready, hence giving Mysterio Edith. Then he realizes Mysterio manipulated him into feeling unworthy, and Happy assures him that he doesn't have to do things perfect to do the right thing with his power. Then Peter defeats Mysterio, showing that he's broken through the illusion that he's not ready to grow up (be an avenger). Not that FFH is perfect, Brad is stupid and Mysterio didn't need to be connected to Stark, but I think the core of the story is an interesting continuation of Homecoming.
I have learned to appreciate homecoming more and more after rewatching...i remembered being incredibly dissapointed walking out of the theater probably because of the high expectations i had since everyone was raving about it calling it the best spider-man movie ever..although i still prefer far from home
i agree completely! i really dislike how overlooked this movie is in the spiderman community because its so darn fun, charming, emotional and rewatchable. the camera work is really vibrant and just nice to look at (which is ESPECIALLY overlooked by many people as well). there are spiderman films which i consider to be absolutely flawless, yet i always find myself watching this again every few months because its just that enjoyable for some reason
Honestly it’s because it’s mcu
If you’re mcu it really doesn’t matter how good you are, they won’t get respect they’d get if they weren’t apart of it
Still hyped for inerstellar ranger commence
Thank youuuu
Homecoming is one of my favorite MCU movies
Homecoming is genuinely such an amazing Spider-Man movie. I really don't understand people attacking it. "He's Iron Boy Jr" even though Stark only saved him once, and he beat the Vulture without Stark Tech. That rubble scene is peak Spider-Man, it's literally the embodiment of that character. Ditching his friends for the greater good, getting his clock cleaned, and still finding the will in him to go and do the right thing, to stop the guy who is literally the worst case of "meeting the parents." Vulture being a perfect villain by the way.
The scene where Tony takes away the suit, and Peter realizes Spider-Man is within him and not the suit reminds me so much of Superman as a character. His greatest trait is is humanity, which is in all of us. Similarly, Spider-Man's greatest trait is his humanity and willingness to help others, something we all have (evident with how Mauricio dressed up as Spider-Man for Halloween and gave candy to kids).
I personally love Homecoming, and i'm glad that in this ocean of hate towards Holland's Spider-Man (brought about by people like (with all, all due respect) HiTop Films and (no due respect whatsoever) The Amazing Lucas), there's people who appreciate the movie for what it is, and not what it could or should be.
Also, wow i never noticed how Peter made up his mind 10 minutes ago after that car ride. Can't believe i missed that detail!
I agree with you
But I have a question
What do you think about FFH ?
@@bgksm7201 it is decent, and Peter had a good arc of getting out of Tony's shadow, but i feel it didn't have the friendly neighbourhood feel that Homecoming does. Still, it's a solid 7/10.
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Although I think ffh it’s soild 8/10, I Respect your opinion .
Very happy because somebody understand spider man mcu
People making excuses that he’s Iron Boy Jr.
Only people who disagree are normie MCU stans
Homecoming is just my favorite movie, love this review
when he said “which one i like better spider man 2 or spider-man homecoming,” i was like SPIDER-VERSE
Love this video.
Spectacular editting too!
Homecoming is amazing. Spiderman 2 is amazing. We have been spoiled with high quality Spiderman movies every few years of my life. What a joy!
The monument setpiece is great, and I get what they were going for, but I never really bought that Peter was in any real danger when he could’ve just shot a web to catch himself, even if he did slip. Peter himself doesn’t really acknowledge this either. All they had to do was have his web shooters break in some way, and it would’ve played better.
It’s a chill funny comic book movie, the movie doesn’t try to act to serious or force meaning it’s a kid chilling with his bro and it’s executed perfectly
Just came from Twitter. Love your videos.
I found Homecoming to be a mixed bag, although I do think that the good outweighs the bad. And The Vulture contributed to both good and bad aspects of the film. To the good,Micheal Keaton as The Vulture is unquestionably my favorite villain from any Spider-Man film so far. But to the film's detriment--and I don't think that this is the reaction that most people had while watching it--I liked and identified with Keaton's character so much that as I watched the film for the first time, I kept finding myself thinking things like,"Yeah,Peter! You're young and you don't really understand how the world works yet." And I don't think that I was supposed to be thinking things like that. I don't feel like any piece of Spider-Man media should do that,and I don't think that the filmmakers themselves intended to have that effect on anyone either. But it had that effect on me...
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video!! Thank you so much Brown Table! I always see a lot of hate for the MCU Spider-Man saga or Tom Holland as Spider-Man because it isn’t the Spider-Man they see or that “He can’t live up to what Tobey or even Andrew did before”. But the thing is, both those past sagas of Spider-Man were made in different circumstances. Two with no other heroes in the world, and one with many that defined what being a hero is. I’m so glad you out this argument in its place and hopefully to bed as well, and that hopefully this “Iron Boy Jr.” stuff can stop. He is Spider-Man, in his own way
I think it makes sense that Spiderman becomes an Avenger anyway, but often times, the smaller things are connected to bigger things. Like Vulture's motivation.
I kinda get why people don't like FFH but I don't agree with it at all. I don't see how it undoes this story. I feel like it adds to it. Civil War is Spidey meeting his heros and being brought into this bigger world. Homecoming is exactly what you said in the video. Him realizing that Spider-Man is more than the suit or who gave it to him. Then Infinity War/Endgame showed how much he's grown as a hero and that he can handle the small scale stuff as well as the Avengers level stuff. He's cracking jokes because his spider sense goes off and he thinks they're about to fight a bunch of Aliens. HES NEVER FOUGHT AN ALIEN BEFORE!! He proves that he could be an Avenger so Tony makes him one. In this universe, being an Avenger is a high honor and not like being an Avenger in the comics so you have to separate the two. Then, to me, Far From Home is not retelling homecoming. To me, it's actually building upon it. He knows he's a hero. He knows hes got the trust of the Avengers but now that guy who made him one is dead. Caps gone. Widows dead. Visions dead. And evidently Thor, Doctor Strange, and Captain Marvel are all doing superhero stuff. Now he's expected to just be able to handle the big scale stuff that he JUST STARTED DOING! But not only that, he's expected to do it alone. He knows he can go up against Vulture and some crooks with tech. No biggie but now he's got to fight world destroying monsters without an Avenger to guide him through this stuff? He felt safe in IF/EG because of everyone else around him. He doesn't know Fury or Mysterio. And now the world just expects this kid who probably has a bit of PTSD to just go ham on the big stuff like that's all he's ever done. He needed the Avengers to fight Thanos but now they're all busy and he's all they got. Now his friends are in danger and he thinks he's about to lose a girl he really likes and just when he thinks hes okay and out of it all Fury adds more pressure by giving him those glasses and putting his friends in the middle of it when Peter was specifically trying to avoid that. By the end of the movie, he learns that hes going to make mistakes and that it's okay because even the heros he thought never made mistakes did exactly that. He already learned that he is a hero but now he's learning that being hero isnt about being perfect but that it's about fighting even when it feels like you've made every mistake possible. He is just as capable as his idols. So he makes a suit that he wants to make and he makes the plan and he stops Mysterio all by himself, gets the girl, and is happily ever after...except he made more mistakes by being too careless with his identity because he's too nice of a guy and is too trusting so the consequences of that is him losing that secret to the world but not only that but they think he killed someone the world thinks is a hero. Parker luck. Every movie so far has him lose just when he thinks he's won. Every single one with the exception of Civil War. To me they work hand in hand like a comic story arc. Each movie and issue building up to the final issue which is No Way Home. A culmination of his mistakes and struggles. Just my take tho
Solid editing. The breaking bad clip was well used
I personally don’t mind spider man homecoming, it’s a decent even good entry in the MCU and is very entertaining and fun to watch, but I wouldn’t call it an “Amazing movie” or even a great spider man movie. My problems with this movie are that it feels like a gateway for many plot points of the mcu converging into a spider man story, and it just doesn’t “Feel” like a spider man movie, because it lacks that distinct spider man tone and style that was present in the ramiverse or even the Marc Webb films. I did however really like Michael Keaton’s Vulture and the dynamic between Tony Stark and Peter Parker. So homecoming is good, but not great imo.
Well said
Perfectly said.
I think this comment is too vague to be a proper criticism of the movie. You say that it lacks the distinct Spider-Man tone present in the Raimi and Webb films, but you don't define what that tone consists of.
Personally what puts me off is what the film skips or makes irrelevant in what any other Spider-Man story would‘ve been a source of drama.
Peter bails out of his team at the last minute, but now wants back in. Does he get scolded for flaking and expecting to be welcomed back? No, it’s played for laughs and he’s instantly welcomed back.
He ends up not being able to make it to the decathlon. Does his team maybe lose, and get angry at Peter for maybe costing them the game after being so gracious to him? Nah, they win anyways so they don’t care he’s pretty much gotten a free vacation.
“I’m nothing without this suit.” Peter you saved lives for six months in pajamas before even meeting Tony, why are you going through Tony’s Iron Man 3 story arc?
Aunt May now knows Peter is Spider-Man, which has never been done before. They literally skip all the drama and get to the point where Aunt May can make light jokes of Peter’s literal day to day confrontations with death.
@@jonathandelgado3755 100% agree with this, but I would like to point out that your last point is a criticism of Far From Home, not Homecoming.
I’ve noticed this pattern of anyone who hates Far From Home or thinks that it undoes what homecoming did, or blindly says Spider-Man 2 is the greatest, is a bully and is nothing really like Peter Parker.
spider-man homecoming will always be my favorite film, it reflects responsibility in a new way, and what is striking is that youthful atmosphere that the film plays, it is my favorite because Without knowing anything about the character, I identified myself and fell in love with him. Homecoming is a great movie!
The Spider-Man of the MCU is made to fit the MCU. He's a small fish in a big pond, as opposed to being the only superhero in the previous incarnations
Michael Giacchino is INDEED a KING. He also made the music for The Incredibles, one of the best Scores of all time.
Finally someone who gets this movie and doesn't try to compare it to other versions spider-men.
Holy shit!! That's a great pov, i.e. Peter lives in a world, where being a super-hero is pre-defined, which makes it all the more difficult for him to decide what kind of super-hero he wants to be. 🤯
Great video sir!
Something I feel people miss regarding "Iron Boy Jr." is that Peter Parker is a second-generation hero in the MCU, whereas he was part of the original generation in the Comics. MCU Peter is like Kamala Kahn or the Young Avengers, is what I'm saying.
I was just about to leave my house to work but I just had to wait just to watch this
This is why you're the Goat
He only got the Iron Spider suit in “Infinity War” because he needed it for space if I remember correctly he was about to die from lack of oxygen so Tony sent in the Iron Spider suit. In “Spider-Man: Far From Home” he only uses it for I think one scene and he isn’t even fighting anyone it was for a press conference where it is the people comparing him to Iron Man, not him. That’s what the movie was about for Peter to stop caring what other people expect of him and to continue down his own path. Mysterio didn’t target Tony or anyone close to him specifically; he targeted Peter to get his glasses, which he only desired for his plans, which Peter gave to him making it his responsibility to stop him.
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LOOK OK, I didn’t HATE Tom Holland’s Spider man I just never enjoyed him as much I did with Tobey and Andrew. BUT, I think now that I’ve seen this video, I can now see that Tom Holland is now more of something for himself and an EQUAL to Tobey and Andrew. (Although I’ve always believed they were all AMAZING Spider men)
A thing I love about this Movie is that it reminded me why I love Spider-Man. The only content in the past few years were billionaire Spidey, the Ultimate Spider-Man series and the TASM2, which wasn't really for me. HOMECOMING shows a Spider-Man I relate to and I love it. It's by far my favorite live action Spider-Man movie.
Except Spider-Verse and PS4 where they make live action movies and the animated shows look like jokes.
@@ventusvanitas7544 yeah ITSV is awesome but I said HC is my favorite live-action Spider-man movie. Not my favorite mainstream Spidey content of the last few years.
@@T3unlimited same. Most Spidey content don’t hit the spot these days except for the recent games and maybe few comics. And ITSV.
@@ventusvanitas7544 i personally think that recent Spider-man content is pretty good. Except for the Shows and a few comics...
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Alright bro but can we talk about how clean of a transition that was?
Homecoming is a genuinely a good Spider-Man movie. I really liked how they made him grow to be independent and stand by his values.
For me, the problem is that they backtracked this development in Far From Home. It sounds like you agree though.
Agreed. I think far from home could’ve added to him growing as Spider-Man in such a better way than how the pulled it off.
Love this
I still disagree with you about Far From Home being a bad movie, but I absolutely love this video. Homecoming is my favorite Spider-Man movie, and it’s really sad that even though people have understandable reasons why they don’t like the movie, there are people who treat it as an abomination and as a symbol of everything that Spider-Man doesn’t stand for. Which, as a Spider-Man fan, hurts me on a personal level due to my love for this character. And I think you hit every nail on the head accurately. Homecoming is not Spider-Man 2, and it’s not trying to be Spider-Man 2. But, that’s a good thing. Spider-Man 2 is not the only way to make a good Spider-Man movie, and while it’s one of the best CBMs of all time, we should be encouraging Marvel and Sony to make different Spider-Man films and tell different stories with this character. Maybe the MCU Spider-Man isn’t for everyone, and that’s fine. If the Raimi trilogy is your preferred Spider-Man story, then that’s great. But, I love the MCU Spider-Man. There are people who aren’t going to love his films (and even though I disagree with you that FFH is a bad movie, I still respect your opinion about it nonetheless), but that doesn’t mean that those who do should be ridiculed or should be considered “fake Spider-Man fans”. I see too much hate for this movie and FFH on Twitter, and it gets exhausting after a while. So, I want to personally thank you for making this video. You always know how to tell fair and respectful arguments in your videos, and I wish the Spider-Man community was more like you. Thank you for the work you put into making this video. I really appreciate it. 🙏🏽
I loved homecoming when I first saw it in theatres and I still really like it now, tho I do genuinely despise the sequel even after giving it another chance. Inspite of that however, I wouldn't consider someone a fake fan for liking or disliking a certain move, you do you bro, don't let the toxic hateful fans get to you.
@@ayaanabdullah937 Thanks, man. I try not to, I just have a deep personal connection with this character, especially this version. So, it gets hard ignoring the negativity surrounding him. But, this is something that every Spider-Man fan deals with sometimes, even Raimi and Webb fans. So, I need to learn to not let it bug me. Thank you. 😌
@@keyshawnwatkins4362 Same here, I also connected to Spider-Man during my troubled high school years and found him relatable, and even tho I had my favourites (Spectacular, PS4, and Comic Peter) I still really like all versions of this guy and thought that Homecoming did something super fresh with him despite still keeping the feel of Spider-Man alive, and hey, here's hoping NWH brings the whole fandom together because of how good it can be.
@@ayaanabdullah937 I’m praying on it. This could be the film that will unite the entire Spider-Man fanbase. I have full faith in Marvel and I know they’ll deliver us something great.
I remember some people complaining that the big decision was too low stakes, but I think that works better. Most of the time, Peter's choices are framed as either being selfish or preventing a death, multiple deaths or an obvious catastrophe. I think it's a lot easier to make the selfless choice then. But it was a lot easier to be tempted by Vulture's weapons heist. It's a seemingly harmless crime against someone he could've hated. He could've easily looked the other way and had his "normal" life. But in the end, he didn't.
Mauricio you're the best! Thank you for the great content as always!
Homecoming is so fucking good, if far from home was better the mcu spidey trilogy would be up there with some of the best trilogies for me
@Erik Kemeey I don't think its bad if thats what you got from the comment, I just think it missed the mark in some areas def not bad tho, 7-7.5/10. Just overall it let the trilogy down a bit because both homecoming and no way home are 9/10
@Erik Kemeey It feels like a filler movie, And the overarching message for peter is just Meh, the whole identity crisis on filling in IM shoes could’ve been executed better without making peter seem so incompetent. I’ll say my biggest gripe with it was how naive they made Peter in this film.
I loved Homecoming so much. I loved how it still made it feel like a high school movie/vibe, but really showed the struggle of being an amateur among the worlds greatest heroes. Far From Home was a good film, but not a good spider man film. It lacked that feel that I loved so much from Homecoming.
Its just so freaking beautiful how Brown table makes these videos and video essays he does it in a beautiful understanding way with amazing words and great editing
One underated youtuber
Very good my dude! It was nice seeing you going back to your roots, but still maintaining how much you've changed!
Mauricio, Good one. Homecoming is indeed a Amazing spiderman movie.
This is really good.
Banger vid man!
also 2:02 Ninjago cameo in the top left corner??!?!?!?!? POG
I remember when it came out I loved it
Then discourse took hold and well, I was definitely swayed more towards “bad Spider-Man movie" and remained firm in that camp till FFH
Then FFH came around (oof, that film was not for me)...and needless to say not only did I seek solace in my favorite films of the previous iterations (the first TASM, and Spider-Man 2) I also re-sparked a love for Homecoming. It's by far the least accurate Peter Parker yeah, but I love it for daring to be different and taking inspirations from very unique sources that all amalgamated into this warm coming of age story that wears it's Hughes influence on its sleeve, while allowing Watts to play with elements of the Spider-Man mythos that he felt played into that style of film and giving him the opportunity to exercise a VERY deep dive into the material (such as Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, and the broader world pieces of early Ultimate Comics Miles Morales stories). I'd honestly say that Homecoming right along Spider-Verse, TASM, and Spider-Man 2, are the best examples of a great Spider-Man movie.
Peter shouldn't have gotten the suit back on the end of the movie, were it not for that the movie would be way better for me
Oh absolutely. He should have built his own suit instead, like in NWH
What I really like about Homecoming is that it's the only Spiderman movie (except Into The Spider-verse) that isn't a love story. Peter wants to be an Avenger more than getting the girl.
Someone one said:
You want a good Sonic movie with great writting, good characters, and story? Then Spider-Man Homecoming is the option for you
God I love seeing videos like this. People don't credit this version of spider-man enough for what's it's trying to do. Homecoming is my fav Spiderman movie right behind ITSV and Spiderman 2.
Homecoming is one of my favourite superhero movies period. Probably in my top 10, yes up there with GOTG, the dark knight, incredibles, avengers 1, infinity war and endgame all those beasts. Its such an easy movie to watch with little to no context of the mcu, it does a good job of explaining points to the audience that happened prior to this movie which is always great. I'd say Tom Holland is my favourite spiderman/ Peter portrayal tied with yuri lowenthal in the ps4 game.
I don’t get how people still don’t understand Far From Home. Peter isn’t fighting Tony’s war for him. Because if Tony was still alive, Mysterio wouldn’t exist. Mysterio exist because of 2 catalysts, Tony dismissing beck’s tech, and infinity war/Endgame. Is it contrived and probably not a smart idea to give those glasses to Peter? Of course! But Tony knew if he gave them to Ross or Rhodes, they’d go straight to the military and Tony didn’t want that. He trusted Peter because he probably knew Peter wouldn’t really use them and probably store them away. Mysterio is Peter’s enemy. He has a personal connection to Peter, he’s a fantastic villain, but to top it off, beck and the world are essentially what JJJ represents in issue 50 of Stan Lee’s original 100 issue run. Peter doesn’t quit being Spiderman for a girl, nor does his life get better. He quits because someone else’s voice was louder than his. He is lied to by MJ to make him think she never actually liked him. Peter didn’t wanna be Spider-Man because he didn’t think he could live up to it. Partly because of Tony. If Homecoming was about Self Actualization, the Far From Home is about Self Worth and listening to your own voice above everyone else’s. Far From Home is literally the only marvel movie in general to make me cry because of that lesson. FFH may not be the greatest Spiderman movie, thats ITSV, but it definitely captures Spiderman and definitely is a lot closer to the comics than Spiderman 2.
I will disagree on that ffh is better than spider-man 2 but you did a great job explaining your reasons on liking this and that's 👍
@@daryltor7608 I didn’t say FFH was better than Spiderman 2. Spiderman 2 is a better film over all, but FFH is a better Spider-Man movie that is a lot closer to the comics than Spiderman 2.
@@Masonhill76 that's what I mean I disagree on spider-man ffh capturing on what spider-man no more great than spider-man 2, for me anyways
@@daryltor7608 i like Raimis interpretation of Spider no more
But I have to agree that Spiderman far from home is a bit more comic accurate to the complete moral
@@octoberviberations233 good for you, 👍
With how good this movie is it really hurts how underwhelming the sequel is. Makes me worried about No Way Home and how that will be soured or move past the sequel.
Homecoming is a personal favourite of mine. Best spider-man movie and one of the better MCU films. And has a FANTASTIC villain
If only he wasn’t iron kid…
@@ventusvanitas7544 except the fact he isn’t
The thing about this video is that it's an absolute banger
I'd like Homecoming so much more if it felt like it had some actual depth of character that wasn't just surface level. With Spider-Man in the MCU already having his powers, I feel like we never truly got to know Peter(deeply) and his life and his personal struggles outside of his suit, something I think a Spider-Man movie needs and something Raimi's movies and Spider-Verse does very well. So I do respectfully disagree.
That's the entire main point of the mcu spidey movies. The center of the story is always Peter. What are you talking about?
@@nickreed3924 I'm saying that it isn't good. It's surface level, it's serviceable at best. I'm less invested in Peter in his 2 Spider-Man movies and 2 Avengers movies then I am with Miles Morales in Spiderverse alone.
@@kendalletten-bohm5152 ^
I agree, it's like they count on you already knowing the character that you'll just be happy with whatever they give you. It feels like because they didn't go with the classic origin and that they actively try to avoid doing anything that was already in a previous spider-man movie, that they decided to try to kinda give a sense of an origin with tying him to the avengers and being in their shadow, and Tony stark as the kinda uncle Ben figure. I mean it definitely connects their version of spider-man well to the rest of the mcu, but once you take out any mcu stuff, the movie doesn't stand well on its own. It's not deep enough and doesn't feel like something that could be it's own thing, like doctor strange or antman, or the guardians of the galaxy, it just feels like another episode in the mcu.
I honestly think Spider-Man: Homecoming is really good MCU movie, but I still don't fully agree that it was a Peter Parker movie(at least for me). One of the most interesting and heartwarming arcs that I really love about the TASM comics was Peter growing out of his toxic loner attitude. The first issue shows this perfectly! If I'm not mistaken, the first story shows how bad the effects of uncle Ben's death was both monetaraly and mentally for Peter, the second story showing him trying to stop villain only to get framed, and third story was about him realizing that joining the FF could genuinely help him with his money troubles only for him to learn that they're a non-profit. It took him time to grow out of it. It always seemed as though the world was against him, but as the years grew he opened up to his future wife, finding similarities in the both of them, to his frail aunt that he was to scared to tell, then finally the FF. Becoming more than a member,
He was apart of the family
Why does Andrew accurately portray TASM comics by Stan Lee though? XD
@@ventusvanitas7544 I was talking about the og Amazing comics
@@frightening_volleyball1231 exactly…?
@@ventusvanitas7544 yes, exactly.
@@frightening_volleyball1231 the original TASM run was amazing. Tbh, we need some truly accurate adaptions of the run.
Good stuff man. Really showed off Homecomings strengths, or rather that Homecoming IS strong. A lot of what you said about how Peter had to find his own path to being a hero reminds me of my favorite Spider-man movie *Spider-verse* . Miles in a way has the same kinda set up as MCU peter, being amongst accomplished Spider-men who’ve all walked the walk before him, and struggling to find his way to achieve that. When the Peters and the Miles trust themselves they arrive as Spider-man, and thats pretty awesome
That transition from the video of the TV to the footage itself was so smooth
"......To drawing lewds of Interstellar Ranger Commence......"
Homecoming is the second best Spider-Man movie. Spider-Verse will always be the best. (Until Spider-Verse 2 hopefully).
It's not the 'perfect' Spider-Man movie, but it's the perfect MCU Spider-Man movie. This is how Spidey would be in the world of the MCU.
This video helped remind me of how I felt leaving the theater after watching Homecoming. Genuine thrills, good laughs, and a great continuation from Civil War for Spidey.
Fantastic video, I really love your content!!
spider-man homecoming needs more respect. love your vid, love the movie
Tell me you don't actually understand the character of Spider-Man without telling me you don't actually understand the character of Spider-Man
I feel like MCU's Spider-Man is faithful to the original Stan Lee's run of the character, while Sam Raimi's Spider-Man is his own interpretation of the character. Not saying that's a bad thing just an observation.
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