Why It Works: Peter Forgives The Sandman | Spider-Man 3 Analysis

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  • Peter forgiving the Sandman is one of the most powerful moments in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man Trilogy, and I wanted to talk about it.
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  • @Browntable
    @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +397

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    • @carsonclay2965
      @carsonclay2965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@carsonclay2965 No problem! Thanks for the post!

    • @insidemymindinc
      @insidemymindinc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazing job yet again. Keep going brother. You make video essay matter again!

    • @BlackbirdSJ
      @BlackbirdSJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2:00 that shot of thor destroying the city was not a good example. In that scene he destroyed the central vibranium pillar that was holding the landmass together. It wasnt just him being able to destroy an entire city.

    • @thedon7082
      @thedon7082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Browntable you'll get your installer ranger commence when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!!!

  • @samay4582
    @samay4582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3039

    Spider-Man 3 is like that one unsuspecting sibling that you find annoying, but then suddenly becomes really thoughtful and caring.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      That's a nice way of putting it.

    • @eddydrouet1888
      @eddydrouet1888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      More like you don't realize he's caring until you grow up, but he always cared for you

    • @ThatOneGuy7550
      @ThatOneGuy7550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      After all the emo dancing, then yeah, I totally agree

    • @hatakekakashi3381
      @hatakekakashi3381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Black Ninja Same here. It's my favorite Spider-Man movie

    • @samay4582
      @samay4582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Bryan Hernandez I always enjoyed it, just never appreciated it as much as I should have.

  • @mattperrin8430
    @mattperrin8430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2324

    Peter forgiving The Sandman was a really powerful scene and is one of the most memorable scenes in the 3rd movie

    • @misspriss2482
      @misspriss2482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      This scene, and the one where he actually becomes the Sandman. My God, that is a beautiful sequence.

    • @justinky2035
      @justinky2035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@misspriss2482 most powerful Spider-Man scene to me

    • @IllBeDARNd
      @IllBeDARNd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Symbiote Peter (excluding dancing and jazz bar scenes) are phenomenally excellent in this film. Too bad dancing and Jazz bar was terrible. :(

    • @schwozluv8364
      @schwozluv8364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Matt Perrin one of the best spiderman scenes period.

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@IllBeDARNd The Emo Peter dance becomes a meme now.

  • @thedon7082
    @thedon7082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1995

    I've also gone through a spider man related arc of forgiveness. after spider verse, I learned to forgive Sony for the emoji movie.

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      Haha 😂

    • @maldon3659
      @maldon3659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      You'll learn to hate them again when emoji movie 2 comes out.

    • @thedon7082
      @thedon7082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Ryan Law and I'll probably forgive them again when spider verse 2 comes out.

    • @maldon3659
      @maldon3659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thedon7082 then venom 2 comes out and all the spin offs like morbius and mysterio are released

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol 😂

  • @r3dfox23
    @r3dfox23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1444

    I never cared about what people say about this movie. This was my childhood and i still like it today.

    • @gamedude108
      @gamedude108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Me too

    • @DrDolan2000
      @DrDolan2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm able to like it as well after thinking about it

    • @julianmartinez4719
      @julianmartinez4719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually, this one i remember IT way more than the preview ones.
      (I don't know if i spelled preview right, but i can be excused, im from Argentina)

    • @satireshit3280
      @satireshit3280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Redfox same

    • @wolf3hunter884
      @wolf3hunter884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Redfox same

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1871

    Me to Sony: We all have a choice. You had a choice when you murdered Spider-man 4.

    • @kclink1579
      @kclink1579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But luckily that did finally happen.

    • @parkerboy795
      @parkerboy795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Sadly though, considering the drafted plot, it was a mercy killing. Even Sam Raimi couldn't go through with that.

    • @rorystrain6981
      @rorystrain6981 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wasn’t the drafted plot something about peter cheating on MJ?

    • @parkerboy795
      @parkerboy795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@rorystrain6981 Yep. Basically, Peter and MJ would have been married, with a kid. The villain would have been Vulture who Peter ends up killing and Peter would have cheated on MJ with Felicia Hardy who would have been Vulture's daughter and called Vulturess. Then, Peter and MJ would have split and Peter once again would have quit being Spiderman.

    • @MyssBlewm
      @MyssBlewm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Well, I can almost forgive them with Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse.

  • @Glitchtophertm
    @Glitchtophertm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1210

    Frankly this scene is why I can’t hate SM3. Yes it has problems but this scene is beautiful.

    • @whodatninja439
      @whodatninja439 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @BLAIR M Schirmer Sam Raimi's brilliance and understanding of Spiderman still shines through. One of the most underrated filmmakers

    • @rainmaker2338
      @rainmaker2338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Exactly, I dont hate this movie whatsoever. Depending on my mood I like it more than Spider-Man 1 sometimes

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Most of the problems from Spider Man 3 come from some of the scenes in the middle. The entire movie was shot in a way that you get that really impactful ending.

    • @MrWwerko3
      @MrWwerko3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Glitch Michaels That scene and the one where Peter gets out his old red suit are 2 of the best scenes in cinematic history and it had Sam Raimi written all over it. The last 20 minutes of Spider Man 3 are amazing

    • @askredditstudios8055
      @askredditstudios8055 ปีที่แล้ว

      Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.dd

  • @owenmenning3878
    @owenmenning3878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    "What's wrong with you?"
    "You"
    **SICKEST BURN OF 2019**

    • @laughingman5211
      @laughingman5211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Owen Menning more like 2007

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      @@laughingman5211 It was such a burn it transcended time and space and has landed in 2019

    • @tennisawareness3404
      @tennisawareness3404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Everything okay here Paul?

    • @donavishaka5906
      @donavishaka5906 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tennisawareness3404 yea

    • @PieroMinayaRojas
      @PieroMinayaRojas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No u

  • @TShirt4
    @TShirt4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    When I saw this in theaters everybody clapped when Peter said "I forgive you"

    • @eliasmejia7862
      @eliasmejia7862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      TShirt4 bro I wish I could have seen this in theaters

    • @samuelthompsan5961
      @samuelthompsan5961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      The audience were actually pretty active when I saw it in theaters. I don't remember them clapping to Peter forgiving Sandman though.

    • @Saint0999
      @Saint0999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TShirt4 doubt it

    • @mat7083
      @mat7083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who’s cheeks my friend?

    • @theannualantagonist5930
      @theannualantagonist5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Only white people

  • @runbaa9285
    @runbaa9285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    "I've done terrible things too..."
    We all know Peter was thinking about that dance he did.

    • @Commander_Shepard.
      @Commander_Shepard. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      No.
      He's obviously talking about being few minutes late to PIZZA TIME.

    • @stinkerpops
      @stinkerpops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Excuse me, THAT scene in spiderman 3 was a CINEMATIC MASTERPIECE. Not even Quentin Tarantino can top that beautiful ballet-like montage.

    • @scottbecker4367
      @scottbecker4367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He was thinking about yelling at his landlord about fixing the damn door.

    • @resikin
      @resikin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@stinkerpops No, but on a serious note. It unironically ended up being the most iconic cinematic dance scene ever. Hardly doubt that it was the intention upon filming though.

    • @ILikeSoda229
      @ILikeSoda229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :)

  • @peepoopeepo0
    @peepoopeepo0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1040

    "And he then proceeds to eat the camera"
    i'm dead
    P.S- I actually love this movie despite its flaws

    • @askredditstudios8055
      @askredditstudios8055 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.da

  • @Ren_Davis0531
    @Ren_Davis0531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +540

    You’ve touched on why I don’t completely write off Spider-Man 3. The film was clearly trying to tell a story with the themes being displayed through the characters. On paper it has some good ideas, but it’s not firing on all cylinders. Conceptually, I think the themes in Spider-Man 3 might work a bit better than Spider-Man 2, but the execution of the overall film isn’t as good.

    • @nitro-verse5311
      @nitro-verse5311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Subway fight was awesome bank fight was awesome venom fight was dope

    • @Ren_Davis0531
      @Ren_Davis0531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nitro- Verse
      The train fight was awesome.

    • @vanlalkimhangsing4250
      @vanlalkimhangsing4250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You can thank executive meddling & studio interference for that.

    • @heey_im_mike
      @heey_im_mike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vanlalkim Hangsing yeah sony wanted too many villains thankfully raimi is directing the new dr strange.

    • @MattJDave
      @MattJDave ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the main issue Spiderman 3 has is, ironically, trying to do too much at once, probably best demonstrated with the villains. New Goblin, Sandman, and Venom all introduced and two thirds of them killed off, all within one film!
      Of course it's gonna be nigh impossible to execute that well!
      But despite this, it still has the signature Raimi soul. The goofiness, the sincerity, the dedication to the themes.

  • @weezerfanatic5320
    @weezerfanatic5320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    “It’s themes resonate with everyone”.
    That’s exactly why this movie captures the greatness of Spider-Man. He is one of us, a normal guy, just trying to make it work.

    • @MrWwerko3
      @MrWwerko3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Weezer Fanatic that’s why they are arguably the greatest superhero movies ever created

  • @Arrowgcr
    @Arrowgcr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    Like it or not there is real beauty in Spider-Man 3

    • @Carcosahead
      @Carcosahead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Edward Nygma There is real beauty in all the trilogy.

    • @Arrowgcr
      @Arrowgcr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Carcosahead absolutely

    • @ayushshah2103
      @ayushshah2103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Edward Nygma especially the birth of sandman

    • @MrWwerko3
      @MrWwerko3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carcosa in my personal opinion this is the greatest trilogy of all time

    • @jl0699
      @jl0699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrWwerko3 this spiderman trilogy and back to the future trilogy, no cap

  • @movieblocks9164
    @movieblocks9164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    When I saw "Works" and "Spider-Man 3" in the title, I thought this was a BIAM. But I realized that this movie probably isn't even bad enough to be a masterpiece.

    • @BortaMaga
      @BortaMaga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      See Browntable's other video about Spiderman 3, he made a good point there

    • @iamcavon646
      @iamcavon646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100th like

    • @movieblocks9164
      @movieblocks9164 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Borta Maga yeah I saw it

    • @KevinLuper99
      @KevinLuper99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Spider-Man 3 is great. People who hate it don't know how to have fun.

  • @partialartist
    @partialartist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Besides the forgiveness scene, that scene where Aunt May tells Peter that he has to forgive himself to know how to start the process REALLY hits hard for me. It taught me that line I will tell my kids if they’re in a similar scenario, it’s such great writing

    • @Hychargerplug
      @Hychargerplug 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      plot twist: you're the uncle ben in that situation

    • @askredditstudios8055
      @askredditstudios8055 ปีที่แล้ว

      Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.da

  • @bea4828
    @bea4828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Honestly, I wish Sony didn't push Raimi to do things he didn't want to, I feel like if they didn't we would've had a strong trilogy with all 3 films being fantastic

    • @whodatninja439
      @whodatninja439 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Imagine a Spiderman 3 where it's just Harry and Sandman as the villains. No stupid Venom, no emo Peter Parker cringe, no punching Mary Jane. That would've been a good finale, but of course Sony fucked that up.

    • @rahulray9983
      @rahulray9983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Trilogy? Hell no
      It would've been a series of atleast 4-5 movies....
      On the flip side however if Sony hadn't screwed up, we wouldn't have had Spidey in the MCU now

    • @bea4828
      @bea4828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rahulray9983 actually, he only was going to make another trilogy BECAUSE Raimi didn't like 3

    • @MrWwerko3
      @MrWwerko3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Book Worm if they let him do his thing Tobey would probably be the MCU Spider Man. A 4th, 5th and even 6th film were planned

    • @TheLatiosnlatias02
      @TheLatiosnlatias02 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wished Venom and Lizard-Man were villains in Spider-Man 3

  • @abu5ivp1ll0w5
    @abu5ivp1ll0w5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The meaning behind each and every movie
    Spider-man 1 Responsibility
    Spider-man 2 Sacrifice
    Spider-man 3 Forgivness

  • @PassportGaming
    @PassportGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Mr Sandman, bring me some forgiveness

  • @AtracBreezy
    @AtracBreezy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Something about Dinkovich saying “he’s a good boy” after Peter yells at him shows a) Dinkovich cares and b) reminds us Peter is indeed a good person

    • @ursidae97
      @ursidae97 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There are a lot of people in Peter's life who aren't necessarily good but who feel a fatherly bond to him. Perhaps he sees pieces of Uncle Ben in many different people

  • @PassportGaming
    @PassportGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    Dunno why this movie gets such a bad rap. It was good in my opinion. Most profitable Spider-Man of all time

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Truthfully, profit =/= a good movie, but I do agree that the movie is good and gets way too much hate.

    • @specspiderken1462
      @specspiderken1462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I love this film Honestly

    • @coxxcock5121
      @coxxcock5121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its good but its weak compare to spiderman 1 and 2

    • @awaisakhtarbois561
      @awaisakhtarbois561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your face matches your comment perfectly 👌🏾

    • @naanbred2735
      @naanbred2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's mainly just the Venom aspect of the movie which killed it for most everyone

  • @BSJINTHEHOUSE420
    @BSJINTHEHOUSE420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    He had a choice for Pizza Time:’(

    • @ryanm.8720
      @ryanm.8720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the hotel receptionist in Spider-Man 2 had a choice to ignore the 'Joe's 29-Minute Guarantee' and pay for the pizza.

  • @kclink1579
    @kclink1579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I love this movie and there is a reason why that scene made me cry and it took ages to watch it without doing that.

  • @BawonoSA173
    @BawonoSA173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I never know there was a deleted scene, until you show us

    • @misspriss2482
      @misspriss2482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's in the novelization of the film.

    • @BawonoSA173
      @BawonoSA173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@user-vt6td9hp3g for one, I never know there was a deleted scene that shows the Sandman visits his daughter in a form of giant sand castle

    • @akmaldanial67
      @akmaldanial67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      In the editor's cut, Harry Osborn helps Peter in the final battle after he notices a broken picture frame, showing Peter, MJ and Harry.

  • @YensElRojo
    @YensElRojo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I have never thought of saying this about Spider-Man 3 but... bloody hell, that was beautiful

    • @Laa_Nari
      @Laa_Nari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tobey Maguire reigns supreme, better than tom

    • @quagmire1130
      @quagmire1130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Laa_Nari Well.. Tom is nothing but a child and still has a lot to learn so yeah lol

  • @LasherAF
    @LasherAF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I don't care what anyone else thinks, Spider-Man 3 is AMAZING. On par with the first 2. I saw this movie when I was 9 years old. Now I'm 21, and I genuinely cry at the ending every single time. I can resonate and understand the themes of the first and second movies, but the meaning behind SM3 really hits close to home. So many moments in my life where I could have held onto anger and revenge. During those moments I always think about this movie, and how much it means to me. I truly think this is a movie that has changed me for the better.

    • @lipasnaik1303
      @lipasnaik1303 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still my fav movie in the trilogy

  • @dentonyoder4652
    @dentonyoder4652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Such an underrated scene. In the previous movies, the philosophy of "we always have a choice" was an overarching message. Rather than focusing on the choices of Spiderman, this movie focused on the choices of a villian, whose decisions to rob and murder feel so vial and disgusting. Only for Peter to understand later that Sandman acted in the interest of saving his daughter, he realizes he isn't the only one who has made tough choices in life. In the end, Peter acknowledges the pain he has caused others and forgives the man who had killed his father figure.
    A 10/10 scene that should receive much more analysis than it does.

  • @KellogsFrostedFlakesss
    @KellogsFrostedFlakesss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    4:20
    Ngl whenever I rewatch this scene, I remember how powerful it is. Everytime peter grabs his suit from the suitcase I hear ben's words in my head, "with great power, comes great responsibility", and ik positive peter remembered them too. I agree that it is one of the raimi and spidey film scenes period. I would definitely put this in my top 10 spidey moments in film.

  • @TheRealdealdude2
    @TheRealdealdude2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I always really liked the ending of Spider-Man 3 and thought it was the high point of the film, and I always cried when I was younger. I knew the film had the theme of forgiveness but I've never went that deep. I welled up.

  • @harrizburhan
    @harrizburhan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    damn last time I was this early, uncle ben was still alive

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      DAAMN

    • @jaxattack4817
      @jaxattack4817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Last time I was this late was when Bruce Wayne's parents had been shot

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Last time I was this early I didn't snap my fingers and killed half of the universe.

    • @nitro-verse5311
      @nitro-verse5311 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      AND YOU DID NOTHING?! u might as well pulled the trigger urself

    • @harrizburhan
      @harrizburhan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nitro- Verse I was scared. I told uncle ben all I wanted was the car. He said to me "Why don't you just put down the gun and go home?" I realise now he was just trying to help me.

  • @stantheman9002002
    @stantheman9002002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    That was very well said. I'm not crying.... I'm chopping onions :'O

  • @johnintheflesh3485
    @johnintheflesh3485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Ah, Rosie I love this boy

  • @ricoco7891
    @ricoco7891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The thing with Sadman and Peter's conversation is, as they are talking the camera gets closer and closer, signaling that the two of them are also getting closer to understanding each other.

  • @juanpedraw4245
    @juanpedraw4245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    WHAT?! That deleted scene with Flint and his daughter was wholesome, why did they take that away?!

  • @Chuggington_Videos
    @Chuggington_Videos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thor was stalling Ultron in the example you gave at around the 2:00 mark, that was the purpose of the gag where he says something to the effect of "I'm running out of things to say"

    • @enigmaticheart666
      @enigmaticheart666 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still a terrible movie which made no sense continuity wise

  • @bronosx2246
    @bronosx2246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I finished the paper and I rushed to watch this but damn your analysis is very heartbreaking. Symbolism I never noticed before is now revealed to me.

  • @coolkid37811
    @coolkid37811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    finally everyone starts to see the good in Spiderman 3 and thus 0 dislikes on this video 🤭🤭

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm very happy that there's no dislikes so far even though I know they're coming hehe :P

    • @coolkid37811
      @coolkid37811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Browntable maybe there won't be many for this one 🙈🙈

    • @BawonoSA173
      @BawonoSA173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Browntable well, we wouldn't be the judge of that

    • @MuttFitness
      @MuttFitness 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      6 now

    • @sebastianw.7254
      @sebastianw.7254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always saw the good in this movie

  • @leecameron9226
    @leecameron9226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Spiderman 3 is a beautiful I've watched this film a lot amazing fight scenes and sandman one of the best villians in the trilogy

  • @TSPxEclipse
    @TSPxEclipse ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember seeing this movie in theaters with my dad. That scene where Peter forgives Flint had us both in tears. Moreso than in the second movie where Otto got a hero's death and ultimately conquered the evil influence of the artificial intelligence implanted in his nervous system.

  • @mrturtletail3945
    @mrturtletail3945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for pointing out Peter sitting away from the pictures of his family and friends. Never realized that. Makes me appreciate this film even more

  • @derrickwoods1595
    @derrickwoods1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Thank you for this. I'm gonna eat some sand while watching this

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm eating sand as I'm typing this! Great minds think alike.

    • @derrickwoods1595
      @derrickwoods1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Browntable 😂😂😂😂

    • @michaelbrown7209
      @michaelbrown7209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :)

  • @tresfordays9644
    @tresfordays9644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really love the themes raimi was able to portray, and I love the way he directed action scenes, he was flexible and used his powers wisely and could take a hit too, and every now and then they’d cut in actual people with all the cgi, and I think it just feels more immersive that way

  • @HADEZFIRE147
    @HADEZFIRE147 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think over time, people are starting to understand Spider-Man 3 more and more. Yes, it’s not as good as the other two. But the messages and themes and meaning are still there. That’s the genius of Sam Raimi, that’s why we all still talk about these films and love the memes.

  • @jamespaz4333
    @jamespaz4333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peter to Eddie: You want forgiveness? Get religion.
    Peter to Flint: I forgive you

  • @Sculpted_stache
    @Sculpted_stache ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always loved the way that sandman fades away after Peter forgives him.
    It’s like a bad memory fading away. When Peter forgives Marko, he’s really forgiving himself.

  • @dalfin9286
    @dalfin9286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thomas Haden-Church absolutely killed it in this movie. Can't wait do see what Marvel does with him in NWH

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another thing I absolutely loved about this scene was the music. When sandman appears behind Peter and says "I didn't want this", the music turns sinister and low, implying the Sandman has bad intentions and Peter and him are gonna fight. Then when sandman says "My daughter was dying" the harsh trumpets turn into a soft piano, showing that sandman isn't going to fight and has no intention of harming Peter

  • @CanalEnConstruccionAT
    @CanalEnConstruccionAT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Amazing analysis.... I also have to learn how to let my anger go.... and forgive myself for past mistakes.

  • @dinsism
    @dinsism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Agree, Spider-Man 3 may be one of the most disappointing films, but there are some really great moments like this

    • @bradporter8110
      @bradporter8110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      its the most dissapointing in the sam raomi trilogy, but still tops alot of superhero films today and definitely tops TASM trilogy

    • @shadowv6794
      @shadowv6794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bradporter8110 The TASM series only has two movies. So no trilogy there.

    • @lordraiden7397
      @lordraiden7397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      TASM1 is underrated.

    • @Maniac61675
      @Maniac61675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bradporter8110 and it tops those terrible Iron Man Jr movie as well.

  • @Nova3482
    @Nova3482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We all know the best scene in the trilogy is Peter dancing out in front of the department store.

    • @whodatninja439
      @whodatninja439 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dancing for no reason, THERE'S NO MUSIC THERE IN REALITY HE'S DANCING BY HIMSELF HAHAHAHAAH

    • @Nova3482
      @Nova3482 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who Dat Ninja lmfaooo

    • @akmaldanial67
      @akmaldanial67 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whodatninja439 Lol, come to think of it

  • @mycuhroni5052
    @mycuhroni5052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’m so glad you dedicated a moment of the video to that wonderful scene of Peter pulling his classic suit out of the briefcase and Elfman’s score swelling heroically but almost as if it’s a tad unsure. I found myself with goosebumps after watching that scene when I watched the movie again for the first time in about 9 years. Just wanted to display my appreciation of your acknowledgment of it cause I feel like it isn’t talked about enough. Great video, man! Keep up the good work

  • @Jfazed
    @Jfazed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ugh.. When i was younger these movies were such an inspiration mentally. Part 3 at the time, i was disappointed. But when you relook the trilogy. It's actually a masterpiece..

  • @jacobsaul
    @jacobsaul 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    love the mixture of satire and analysis both in this video and on the channel as a whole. brilliant stuff and can’t wait for your new series!

  • @ds2disciple
    @ds2disciple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Last of Us Part 2 used 30 hours to depict the same "forgiveness over revenge" theme but falls short of what Spider-Man 3 captured in this scene alone

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How, looking at the themes of Spider-Man 3 was enough to make me look at the film at a better light.
    How dare you!

  • @cagataycakmak2280
    @cagataycakmak2280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When this movie came out i was still a little kid. When i saw it on the theaters i loved it. As the years went past I realized many people didn’t like the movie because of its over stuffed nature but i never stopped liking it. The movie has heart. It is sincere and still has that raimi magic in bits and parts. What a trilogy it was... certainly special.

  • @Amey2425
    @Amey2425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ok it has inconsistencies but I still love this film. Beautifully explained

  • @kh7688
    @kh7688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This film is an anomaly, as its categorised as a bad superhero film. Often when you consider bad superhero films, Green Lantern, Blade Trinity, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Suicide Squad etc spring to mind.
    Sadly, Spiderman 3 is unfairly mentioned in the same breath because it makes some weird and inexplicable choices. However, there are so many things it does well that it's almost criminal to call it a bad film. It most definitely is not a bad film.
    Some of the action is breathtaking, the scene where Flint becomes Sandman is hauntingly beautiful, Harry's arc comes to an end in heroic yet tragic fashion and as you've pointed out, the theme of revenge and forgiveness for the most part is admirably handled.
    Despite its shortfalls, this is a worthy addition to the trilogy and unlike TDKR. The Spiderman trilogy feels incomplete without part 3. But I honestly think The Dark Knight is a masterpiece if viewed as a Duology and only above average if viewed as a trilogy (Yes I think TDKR sucked).

  • @PyroBear1776
    @PyroBear1776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spiderman 3 is the one movie that has stuck with me for nearly 2 decades, my all time favorite movie. I am thankful to have found your channel, very awesome.

  • @rhetiq9989
    @rhetiq9989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love how you were even still able to pluck what little gem that this somewhat despised movie had within itself and shared your thoughts on it with the audience, while further raising people’s awareness about it as well. Now do a video about how important Peter’s rent to Mr. Ditkovitch really was

  • @Myvera
    @Myvera 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Why it works: The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Gwen's Death
    Pretty much the ONLY thing people can agree Tasm did right was the relationship between Gwen/Peter.

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This is a good idea, but maybe in two months when I've stopped talking about Spider-Man so much haha

    • @Myvera
      @Myvera 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Browntable There's also TASM 1's Bridge Scene, BUT HiTop films already did an amazing video on it. Not sure if you've seen it.

    • @treeigh
      @treeigh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Myvera browntable and hitop films are gay lovers.

    • @Saint0999
      @Saint0999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hound not even tru. Delete this

  • @Edmitsu
    @Edmitsu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw the editor’s cut and it redeemed the movie for me. So happy I grew up with these movies.

  • @SirIron23
    @SirIron23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Time to get my BROWNpopcorn to watch BROWNtable.

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chocolate popcorn is the best... unless it's not chocolate? :O

    • @SirIron23
      @SirIron23 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Browntable Definitely Chocolate popcorn.

  • @tirthodas16
    @tirthodas16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can't believe I actually cried wow, just a great video

  • @BigBossSquirtle
    @BigBossSquirtle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Honestly, this had me tear up a bit.

  • @resikin
    @resikin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An incredibly beautiful scene which is actually the only moment in a superhero film that brings me to tears. Received way more hate than it deserved.

  • @stanleystaklight7555
    @stanleystaklight7555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The music is so good, make the scene so powerful

  • @marvelingmadnessstudios1522
    @marvelingmadnessstudios1522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I loved spider man 3 no matter anyone says because of nostalgia but great video a lot of work put in these masterpieces = awesome videos

    • @kclink1579
      @kclink1579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love Spiderman 3 and it has nothing to do with nostalgia.

  • @acrsclspdrcls1365
    @acrsclspdrcls1365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That deleted scene should have been kept in the movie.

    • @dtg756
      @dtg756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Acosi Pardo it’s in the editors cut

  • @sgauden02
    @sgauden02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Imagine if there'd been a scene earlier in the film where Peter actually meets Flint Marko's daughter Penny, and learned the truth while he was still under the impression that he'd actually killed Sandman? It would be then that Peter would realize just what he had done. In his carelessness, and selfishness, he'd taken a sick little girl's father away from her, not avenged his Uncle Ben's death on a cold-blooded murderer. As this realization sinks in, he would recall Aunt May's words "Revenge is like a poison. It takes us over. And before you know it, it turns you into something ugly.", and possibly even Uncle Ben's words "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility". Peter runs away in horrified remorse, and, this coupled with how he'd hurt MJ, and Harry, is what makes Peter finally get rid of the black suit. Later, Peter not only tries to give back the wedding ring to Aunt May, but he also almost quits being Spider-Man again, believing that he'd failed as a hero. But then, Venom, and Sandman make their movie in the climax, forcing Peter back into action.

  • @ivan_a_6717
    @ivan_a_6717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:14 I remember as a kid that I would try to recreate this scene with my cheap Spider-Man costume. My mom would just find me waking up from a nap of me randomly playing in my costume

  • @Deshiimo
    @Deshiimo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm late on this video but I feel that you might have missed one more key detail of Aunt May telling Peter "forgive yourself"
    I believe a main reason Peter lusted revenge as hard as he did in Spiderman 3 is because he couldn't forgive himself for not being able to save Uncle Ben, and he feels that it's his duty to at least find justice for him, but Justice at the hands of revengance will just lead more catastrophe and will it truly be Justice?

  • @erickillmonger2645
    @erickillmonger2645 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember as a child I actually cried with the ending of this film. This trilogy of movies have more going on than what people give it credit for.

  • @YazielEsquivel23
    @YazielEsquivel23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always loved Spider-Man 3, despite its flaws it's a movie full of heart and a good message, like you said of forgiveness.
    This movie has a very special meaning to me, not becasue of the movie itself but what happened in my life while it was on theaters, thanks so much for doing this video, you made me smile and I respect that❤️

  • @Harvey_Mod
    @Harvey_Mod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This scene and the Sandman scene after he got turned into Sandman are some of the most powerful scenes I've seen in a superhero flick. The score even gave them more gravitas

  • @wallyking9258
    @wallyking9258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a treat to finish the school day with a video from Browntable. Perfection.

  • @Teddy-nl8yp
    @Teddy-nl8yp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Personally, it's hard to get over the campiness sometimes but I'm glad you put this video so I can appreciate what is great about these movies!

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah the campiness is what’s great about it.

    • @Teddy-nl8yp
      @Teddy-nl8yp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGeorgeD13 If it were a comedy... too bad it's not

    • @akmaldanial67
      @akmaldanial67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Teddy-nl8yp But it helps the movies be light-hearted though

    • @HumanAfterAll123
      @HumanAfterAll123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Give me campiness over a formulaic clone of a clone of a clone current Marvel movie

  • @alexbloedow372
    @alexbloedow372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video, hope this series continues

  • @gallifreyanknight1355
    @gallifreyanknight1355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely love the scene when Peter picks up his old red and blue suit, and the old Spider-Man theme plays. It was honestly one of the most powerful scenes in the whole trilogy.

  • @richardparr4532
    @richardparr4532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "She's still singing. And he's still in the first row." That killed me. How dare you make a grown man cry like that.

  • @MRJDXTRA
    @MRJDXTRA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:38 - 1:40 "And killed his father"
    Spiderman has not killed a single enemy in that trilogy, Norman killed himself. What was Spiderman supposed to do take the glider to the back and inevitably join Norman in death

  • @k-Dog3192
    @k-Dog3192 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That’s why I think that this movie represents Forgiveness.
    The first movie represents Responsibility.
    And the 2nd represents Sacrifice.

  • @pokinawa
    @pokinawa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you see how the phrase: “I believe in you” changed peter’s face expression? I can assure you that those words can make a big impact in your life

  • @skrrskrr
    @skrrskrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spider-Man 3 is my favorite Spider-Man movie and this scene has a lot of the reasons why in it.

  • @ButtBoy27
    @ButtBoy27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you mean... Snack Snyder ;)
    Great video btw really foreshadows the parts that seem to be forgotten about Spider-Man 3.

  • @KillerTacos54
    @KillerTacos54 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic video! I 100% believe Spider-Man 3 is overall a great movie, despite its many flaws.

  • @notmisterepicface4308
    @notmisterepicface4308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Four parts of Spider-Man 3 have improved my opinion of it over time.
    1. 1:23 the shot of him in his room sitting away from the people he cares about
    2. The best suit-up scene in the series after not putting on the original suit since the beginning of the movie.
    3. Spidey forgiving Sandman for accidentally killing Uncle Ben.
    4. The theme of forgiveness following through all the way to the end of movie
    Like I said, my opinion of this movie has improved with time.

  • @magiko7176
    @magiko7176 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The climax and ending of Spider-Man 3 are undeniably great. The final battle is enjoyable, the theme of forgiveness is expressed and everything that matters is resolved. Harry's death always makes me tear up.

  • @KDCloudy
    @KDCloudy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Astounding video dude. From the in depth composition analysis right to the annotations...LOVED IT! Great work.
    I grew up with the Raimi films and won't forget Spider-Man 3 being my first ever Hollywood movie in theatre haha

  • @Phoenix-dn9ki
    @Phoenix-dn9ki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my opinion the Sam Raimi trilogy is the best. They just hit different

  • @davemac9563
    @davemac9563 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Despite its problems, I feel like the greatness outweighs the flaws. It still feels like a grounded piece of fiction, a look into pride and ego, owning up to your mistakes and being honest with yourself and others, and then…..forgiveness. What I love the most about Spider-Man 3 is this movie is not a movie ruined by studio interference, it’s a movie that is actively FIGHTING against studio interference. Because Venom and part of Harry’s arc is trying to drown this film, but it’s doing it’s best to stay afloat and to be sincere. And this movie for the most part succeeds in being sincere.

  • @BonsuTheTiger
    @BonsuTheTiger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything about this video in a nutshell if you forgive someone even though they made something horribly wrong to you or people that you loved that just shows that you have the heart and the courage to be a human because forgiving is such a big attitude that not everybody has in them, either you are born with it or you learn it with time

  • @TylerTheLoser_
    @TylerTheLoser_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:07 Clearly that shows that Ultron is more powerful than a bunch of weakened buildings.

    • @abdmin3268
      @abdmin3268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      why not use that lighting explosion power?

  • @donskiver
    @donskiver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I disagree with you on the symbiote. Yes, Peter's anger and resentment and aggression were absorbed by the symbiote, but Eddie also had a lot anger and hate and a thirst for vengeance against Peter for exposing and humiliating him. And the symbiote? It's also feeling anger and resentment because it was rejected by Peter. Once Eddie and the symbiote came together, they both found in each other a hatred and thirst for vengeance against Peter. Eddie and the symbiote were both rejected and alone and ostracized and were both angry and resentful and wanted revenge.

  • @senorgooba7360
    @senorgooba7360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's good to see I'm not the only one who loves this scene.

  • @hackerhawk3636
    @hackerhawk3636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing about Spider-Man 3's sandman is that while you can say he was underused at best in every other interpretation of sandman he's always portrayed as a tragic villain and not just a random thug with superpowers (like for example Electro), in every animated series he appears in they always give him a reason for being a villain, that's right there is why I love Spider-Man 3 sandman because she sets the groundwork for a great villain, more than you can say about all the other villains the new marvel movies are making

  • @bronosx2246
    @bronosx2246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would watch this video but I am working on a paper that is due at Midnight so let me finish that first and I'll see what you have in store for this topic of Spiderman and Sandman. Don't worry, I will see it because your videos never fail to entertain me.

    • @Browntable
      @Browntable  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries! It'll always be here!

  • @thealphamasterYT
    @thealphamasterYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t care what anybody says, this is my favorite movie ever. I can relate to Toby in most of the movie, best of the trilogy by far.

    • @Marcelvv
      @Marcelvv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eventually this movie can be the greatest and heart felt spiderman movie until Sony push Sam raimi to add Venom

  • @anthonykay1580
    @anthonykay1580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's my fav Spiderman movie along with into the spider-verse

  • @domonikistheguy
    @domonikistheguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had this scene in my head for a long time and wondered why now one really talked about it. Thanks for changing that.