B58 Engine Dyno 1000+ Horsepower - Sounds like a 2JZ!?
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- We finally attempt to make 1000HP on the dyno after building the parts needed to run the test.
Episode 4 of the 2020 GR Supra Engine Build Series.
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The Papadakis Racing team began drifting in 2004 and is the most winning team in Formula Drift history, earning the 2015 title with driver Fredric Aasbo, as well as backto back championship titles with driver Tanner Foust in 2007 and 2008. The Rockstar Energy Drink / Nexen Tire Toyota Corolla Hatchback is the latest competition build from the Hawthorne, California, based team.
Team owner Stephan Papadakis is a legend of sport compact racing who began building his reputation in the 1990s with the first front-wheel drive, tube-chassis drag car in the U.S. The team earned multiple records and championships in the discipline, turning in elapsed times and trap speeds previously thought unattainable in front-drive drag cars. Papadakis' successes in front-wheel drive were matched by his efforts in rear-wheel drive when he campaigned a Honda Civic that became just the fifth car to join the NHRA's Sport Compact 200 MPH club - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Also doesn’t edit out the mistakes dude makes everything feel so human and normal, really and honestly the best mechanic/racing channel.
Was thinking the same thing. He could've left that out and no one would even know he made some mistakes. He's the real deal.
Exactly! TH-camrs set reality so high for most of these kids/new comers into sports that's it's really nice to see that. Shit will happen, every time, in every build, in every shake down. Even a master tech like him, messed up a rear main seal. So common in every engine build... It's set back after set back that people don't get to see often. I mean hell, that dyno adapter set up alone was more than most people will ever put into their drivetrain $$$ wise...
@@Spkfox Right? I just got back into skateboarding from a long hiatus, and all you use to see on videos was everything getting landed, nobody ever thinks about all the bailing and failed attempts that led to that line\successful trick.
No fake problems\deadlines, people throwing wrenches\faking having fun, just a genuine dude who is the most well spoken engine builder on the tube, and definitely one of the most mechanically inclined as well.
So humble, like the kind of friend you would have a beer at the bar with, or the homie who doesn't drink but goes anyway to make sure everyone's ok lololol. Keep it up papadakis :O, just watch out for those non japanese coils packs, heard they can dildo the engine ROFLMFAO ;).
p3rerang3...You’re 100% correct. Although, the people who get the most hits on their videos are the ones showing all of the crashes!😂😂 love it.
"If you have never made mistakes, you have never done anything"
I love how some of the solutions are "We designed these mounts and created them from scratch" and "We custom CNC'd this spacer after 3D printing it". But some of the other solutions were "We zip tied a towel on top of it so it won't spray" and "We heated the head up on the grill". TRUE ENGINEERING.
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@@movalNika😊p
Murica
I work for Toyota, and I just went to the Supra training and this video was shown, great work Papadakis
What do you do?
Supra training?
@@RmX. Not saying the OP isn't full of bullshit, but it's common practice in many fields of work (not juist automotive) to go through some sort of special training to get certifications when a new product is launched. For example one of my friends work at an Audi dealership. You can't just take an R8 to any dealership. Only dealerships with mechanics that have R8 specific certifications are allowed to work on them. I worked for a cell provider years ago, and some guy from Apple would come out and introduce us to various new Apple devices in some weird hippie, laid back way where everyone sat in a circle of chairs. So like the OP said, Supra training.
@@placeholdername3206 my older brother works at toyota and this is indeed what they do
@@RmX. lol
"I must have made a mistake" (4:18)
#1 sign of high intelligence.
Make dumb comments on 'high intelligence' is a sign of low intelligence.
Making comments on intelligence is a sign of low intelli- wait....
Or sign of good leadership either way it's impressive
@@DanielPfender lol
You have the cleanest, most concise and well edited videos in the car world.
between him and savage geese, I agree
Look at his shop, everything is clean and well organised as well
I strongly agree🤙🏽🔥🙌🏽
Ya but they really don't suck either. I would hate it if this was all scripted and fake for the sake of gloss. but they arent, thank god.
Thank's.
You know this guy is legit when the rear main seal leaked he blamed himself,
It could have just been a faulty seal , congrats on the 1000+ HP !
@@Mrveescuba Yea I love the Greeks. lol.
@@Mrveescuba He American ya melonhead
Antimatter was thinking the same xD been there done that
Jon Jones' Dealer he is greek my mothers name is papadaki
@@easley421 Papadakis is a Greek name
when turning the intake fan on in the room makes a 50hp difference. imagine open air :D
Almost the same.
2000+ hp lol
10:34 smoothest sandwich high five
was looking for this one :D
It really was!
10:33
Sometimes youtube timestamps are inconsistent between desktop and mobile
they prob do it with chicks too so its well learned already hahaha
that engine sounded like it wasn't even trying when it made 1000
Bmw \('_') /
😂😂 yeah okay
It doesnt sound as vicious with 3krpm less than everything else
The more impressive piece is 850hp with 15psi. Needing three times that for only 250hp more says they’re loosing VE rapidly for some reason
@@Turbochargedtwelve agree you're just flogging a dead horse after that. If it was my engine it would never see any more than 15psi of boost. Another 27 psi for 150hp is a foolish trade. Like you the first thing I would be looking at is where the volumetric efficiency is going. Is the intercooler not big enough / no heat exchanging going on? What about that poor AC pump with no coolant take that off and put it in the bin. I would have pulled the pump off it if you're only going to use it as an idler pulley. You can't claim it was actually working.
"bbq becuase you use what you got on the weekend"
*so now we get the liquid nitrogen*
House of Boost just your typical Saturday morning IG 🤷🏼♀️
real talk tho have you had freshly freeze dried marshmallows, those things are great
😂😂😂😂 seriously though
honestly, getting LN2 is actually easier than finding an oven big enough to fit that block. Basically any welding supply store will sell LN2 for about $1 to $5 per liter, assuming you've got something to put it in. No license or any paperwork required, even just a double walled thermos is enough for a container.
Just pump your block with liquid nitrogen and floor it G it'll stay under -20° C
10:33 3 way high five, incredible world first
The B58 will go a long way tnx to you guys. It may even proof to be a great successor to the 2jz :) As a diehard fan of BMW it makes me proud
Successor to the BMW N55
same here. Diehard fan of BMW and it makes me jealous and proud, jealous because I have a n20 and not a b58, but proud because Ill buy a b58 car in the future.
For a inline 6 not bad 42pounds of boost?? No barra though🇦🇺
@@jasondavoineno matter what, can't beat Japanese durability.
@@RohanSanjithThe b58 is proving this to be not true. Even toyota jumping ship
It actually sounds like a 1,000 hp Supra! Crazy.
well, it's an inline 6..
Well it is because it's a 1000 hp supra duh, just not a 2jz a80 one.
@@zahrulexe I understand, but i haven't heard an inline 6 sound so similar before. It's shockingly similar. Maybe it's just me.
No it defiantly sounds like a 2jz you’re right
Ardi Januar that’s a Z4 A80! BMW motor!
You're probably one of the most humble car guys out there.
Anyone worth their salt in the OEM industry is like this - loads of brilliant people. Unfortunately in the aftermarket, lots of blowhards that aren't actual engineers. There is a difference between MIT and tech school.
Because he did the shit people brag about now like...15-20 years ago.
I just love the fact that he didn't edit out his failures and speed bumps but used it as a learning experience for himself and his audience.
I remember visiting JG back in the day to grab 301/303 house cams for my LS engine and I would always see Steph in the back chillin building engines. He was quite shy back then and also quite more heavy set.
It’s so awesome to see him still in the game and so successful.
Seeing him and Shawn with the yellow EK beast coming to Palmdale to lay down 9’s was quite the treat.
Good times; great memories!
The work involved in this project is mind boggling!
Engine: revs
Direct injector: ight imma head out
there was no fuel to cool it
@@matutolaYT you dont get the reference 🤦♂️
n54 vibes
@@matutolaYT as stated in the video
Ahh, gotta love Bimmer memes.
He is the tuner cousin of Vin Diesel, Vin Kerosene
I thought he was Vin Petrol
Your coment made my day
Vin Decoder
@@crherniman HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats a good one
Vin Boost
This was actually exciting to watch. I like how you explain the entire process. Great video bro
Incredible series, thanks papadakis for giving us an inside on how the racing development is actually made, huge thanks everybody
You are Johnny Sins of engines!
Underrated comment! :D
FCDB PCH Bruh! 😂
Lmao
Doctor, plumber, teacher, fireman, policeman, thief, wrestler, and now he's an engineer.
@@koolracerguy everything you need to be, he is!
B-but... the people with internet engineering degrees said this engine couldn’t make that kind of power!
Reeeeeeeee
Now let's see how long it takes to break 😝
@@rubenbraekman4515 says you 😂
stock, it cant push power fully stock how a 2jz-vvti could make stock
Spencer Pond BMW B58s have been known to handle ~650 hp on stock internals. Obviously there are 2Js out there making more but it’s stupid to say that they can’t push power just because you’re obsessed with a car from 1994.
mate your problem solving skills are a joy to watch
Glad I came across this channel, very direct, informative narration, and on top of all that he has no problems saying he made a mistake, it’s nice to hear.
He said “Bung”😬
But seriously, copper wire wrapped around as an indicator for the ignition timing, BBQ’s, liquid nitrogen, pretty effing cool video guys
backyard builder meets SAE master tech all at once. true hot rodding if you ask me
copper wire is a pretty tried-and-true method though
bung is correct
the ignition system operates with high voltage so the copper wire is all that's needed as the "pulses" are measurable that way.
Bung is correct.
@@youridv you dont seem to understand how the copper wire is being used in this situation
Ok , ok , if you insist I will allow you to put this in my 340i for future testing .
I was thinking about the exactly same thing😂
B58A is not the same as B58C
@Ollie Clark check out the supramkv forums, some shop took a part the B58C and they showed that the head, pistons and many of the internals are revised vs the B58A
@@mas921 the X5 uses the B58C, Toyota didn't add anything to the engine. It's the exact same.
mas921 they already replaced everything that different
That was the smoothest 3way high five I've ever seen. Congrats on the 1000hp too!
Mad respect for your innovative and technical approach in achieving your goal being able to utilize the latest 3D printing technology along with the cad cam is SIMPLY Awesome. Looking forward to more builds
B58 makes 1000hp
2JZ: I am proud of you son
(yes I realize it's a bmw engine. Should have said adopted son)
LOL
@Fanie Botha a full size sedan. You are comparing a full size sedan to a Supra
Fanie Botha r u cspec supra on ig
@@aricarphotomuc atleast the camry is a toyota not an BMW
toyota had a bad divorce with 2JZ and fell for a much more classier gentleman(BMW) and the result is here.. One hell of a kid!🤣
That nitrogen BBQ dowell trick is one of the coolest solutions ive ever seen.
Wonder if/how they get thos pins back out.
Normally, one would use induction heating, but hey bbq works too i guess lol
Mmmm I love the smell of barbecue cylinder heads. Smells like awesomeness.
@@tombratfred3102 They don't. If they wanted to take them out, they would have used something easier to remove.
Ferrari uses liquid nitrogen when they assemble their engines too. I agree- super clever.
The most detailed B58 engine dissasembly/reassembly available on internet. hat off sir.
I just admired the combination of experiences and know how with upgraded parts to make them work harmoniously together
1000 horsepower baby!!!! High fives to the whole crew!
Fredric Aasbø hey aasbo my feelings are telling me that you will be drifting the new Supra for FD 2020 it’ll be sick since you started on a Supra
You could be a snob and keep all this as "secrets" but you're really awesome for sharing with us who want to learn. Congratulations and sincerely, thankyou.
They likely have patent everything and will be selling these parts anyways. Im sure I spelled the p word wrong
This is SERIOUS race engineering. I love this stuff!
As always, awesome production from start to finish. Congratulations to you and your team!
Funny how no one really cared about developing this engine until they put it in the new supra
Except for Terry Burger
People have been tuning BMW I6s for a long time.
@Cue plenty of people drive big singles on the street. These cars came stock with compound systems and can take the boost. Hence why they are so popular.
@Cue www.google.com/search?q=e90+single+turbo&oq=e90+sin&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.6329j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
He literally is the first guys because of his race team Toyota ... if he was with Honda or something else he would not give a rip
This looks like I'm watching a Macgyver engine build and testing.
@Chris Valin it's the way he was narrating that reminds me of macgyver. If anything it's a compliment to Steph so since you don't get it then take your weak ass insult somewhere else.
Chris Valin your fun at parties huh
Wow, great video. I've been watching the series and you guys are in top form with building, explanation and editing.
Love this channel. Love the builds. Awesome when it comes to commentary. Great videos and editing!
It literally pulled all of the oxygen out of the room, that's wild.
...making it now a confined space.
all of the oxygen? ALL? wut?
If it would have, then it would be making no more than 0hp. If it loses 10% of its power then it's more like 8% of the oxygen that's gone.
No. The fan system simply shut off making hot in the cell. Hot air means less power.
No it didn't. It was probably a heat issue, and maaaaaybe and ever-so-slight vacuum, but it wouldn't have been much. I bet it just got really hot in there.
@@detaart It's definitely not vacuum. If it would have affected it, then the boostgauge would see it. And even a vacuum that's too small to notice would either pull the door out of your hands, or not allow you to open the door as soon as you go there.
Heat and slight drop in oxygen levels are most certainly the reasons. It's hard to say which of the two mattered more, but it's those 2 factors together that did it.
Puts the head on the grill and cracks open some beers.
Papadakis: “Did you flip the head?”
Head chef: “Ahhh crap, I bet it’s burnt”
Wonder if he was wearing shorts and New Balance shoes when this happened?
ya and like don't forget the E85 Bar BQ sauce
Fantastic job. You guys are amazing. Just started watching your videos. Cleanest shop, excellent problem solving, excellent engineering of custom parts, great editing, super clean video. Keep up the great work!
36 people disappointed that all the sparks weren't anything serious.
It kind of was. That fragment of injector could've caused serious trouble by jamming the valve train
supra was more than a motor is a great handling multi purpose sports car
2jz is better
haha
@Mario The word you were looking for is harakiri.
Those are 2jz sounds 🤤🤤
no? those are boosted inline-6 sounds, and this is a B58
3 liter turbo inline 6 will pretty much sounded like this regardless the brand.
rb30s do have a distinct sound to them, there is really a difference in sound between similarly specced 6's
@@logical_volcel yea rbs sound diff than other inline 6s and they sound the best tbh
@@Hulluboju Bro u dumb :D
I m very happy to see what you achieved! I would have loved be part of this team! Thanks a lot for sharing this wonderful project with us!
This process is amazing. The ability to be flexible and work on problems is exciting to watch.
You guys are pioneers with this platform, my hats off to your team.
This man is as smart as they come, love how he can just whip up adapter plates, and one off parts that don’t exsist !
Gotta love people with that skill and passion
Different league. Love passionate people with that level of knowledge
An import professor for sure!
You can do anything with 2 things...
Common sense and the proper tools
@@joshuamccauley5429 and a lot of knowledge
A pleasure to watch these Steph!! Thank you 🙏🏼
That's awesome! Congrats! I've enjoyed watching the progress of this build.
The man, the legend..... Still remember on that nascar episode when a team engineer condescendingly asked him who he was.
Da fuq, seriously? Do you have a link?
I’d love to see the t
Seriously dude... give us a link...
th-cam.com/video/3LuS7eK3o64/w-d-xo.html “who do you work for?” at the end. Classic
As a mechanical engineer I appreciate all the engineering that was done to get this completed. It was awesome. Keep up the good work.
toyotrustPR adapt and overcome. Engineering is one of the few fields in 2019 where there is no excuse to not get a job done.
Absolutely insane build. Would love to see it in between framerails soon!
WOW much respect to you all guys! Tanks for sharing this incredible project!
10:33 triple high five, damn
Make a wish!
Just gonna zip tie a towel in there, that fixed it.
I rofl'd hard. On one hand they build some custom one-off everything and use the most top of the line techniques and on the other hand "let's zip-tie a towel over that AC and BBQ the head into submission" xD
Isn’t it cool that they are willing to share that? I love it, not too proud to show the little fixes
@@hubbearing4120 It very much shows the racing mindset : half precision engineering, half field repairs and creative improvisation. Love it.
The AC compressor is disconnected that's why it leaked Freon with oil. so what they did is the quickest fix. once the compressor is connected, it won't leak anything.
Dude the dowels really blew my mind. Such an easy fix for a huge problem!
This is the kind of detailed work I love watching
Congratulations on making 1000 HP and for letting me and all the viewer's get a chance to see how the new Supra engine work and what you did to make it make 1000 HP I allso want to say thank you for the great job you did at Sema,can't wait to see what your going to do with the engine maybe a 8 second pass in the 1/4 mile
This 1000 hp engine won't make 8 seconds quarter maybe 10s or high 9s
Cole King MKV’s are already running 10s and high 9s without 1000hp tho...
@@stephencooke6625 Exactly. They run ~9.5 with 650whp.
This is what i call a true professional Engineer, Thumbs Up.
I am just repeating what has already been said....but your concise approach to not only the explanation of what you are trying to achieve but fluid editing is second to none!
I really enjoyed the hunt for 1000hp thanks for the insight...can't wait for 1500hp???
Seems like so much work. Yall have mastered the virtue. Probably, the most important virtue.. patience.. I would love to learn engines from a leader like you. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge & experience so freely and simply.
Legend has it that everytime you assemble that engine +1hp is being added.
that last image of the engine should be a shirt 😄
I saw him used t-shirt with this image on it at his show at SEMA
Along with the " all said and done " price tag.
It is but idk if it's for sale
I agree
interested see what the difference between a 2 port and 6 port exhaust outlet would be....
Great video series. The time, labor and development into this would be hard to recoup!
Y'all are brilliant minds! Good Job!
900 horse on inert gas. That’s a hell of a goal, and a hell of an engine.
Inert? Say what?
noxious89123 Inert gas is a gas that won’t burn anymore. With the exhaust fan failed, they were basically running the largest EGR ever.
@@Cjbarker2 sounds like they pulled the b58 straight from Area 51
ModernArc That’s why it took so long to get the video posted! They had to reverse-engineer it after the raid!
@@Cjbarker2 I think you might be on to somethin. Maybe that's why they are using their own injection instead of direct injection. Probably dark matter injectors.
6:27 that horsepower jump when the turbo kicks in holy shit
Not only had he built the heck out of that motor his team engineered all of their own equipment to test it. These vids are so straightforward and informative, very well done
That's some clean engine work right there.
Looks very professional.
I've never built an engine before but watching this mans videos makes me want to asap
OMG! Omg 😮 That thing sounds like a monster...definitely reminiscent of the 2JZ era.
755hp yeah. A 3.0L, 24V, turbocharged straight six that sounds like a 3.0L, 24V, turbocharged straight six. Who would’ve thought?
You guys are awesome to systematically achieve what you have done here. Hats off
The detailing is just amazing man. And I'm happy you've achieved your 1000 hp goal, looking forward to seeing the mk5 exploit the numbers 👌
Insane, steph is a living legend and seeing him work is a blessing. Such a meticulous guy, resembles a machine.
So this B58 motor wants us to know that...
"Tune me up to a thousand horses, then you'll hear the roar that's what you wanna hear."
Beautifully haunting sound 💕
Brilliant engineering.
Great to see this so well presented.
Thanks
I love how u guys don't have huge egos and aren't afraid to show some mistakes 👍👍
I like this alot! =)
Thanks Papadakis for being the most honest engine builder on TH-cam.
Showing mistakes, ghetto modding, and top it of by showing dyno run front to back with clear screencaps of the logged data.
Hats of to you sir!
Keep us updated. =)
Thank you for this amazing story thus far. It's incredible to watch a pioneer make his way with something that has never been done. Just awe inspiring watching these videos. Once again Stephen, you're paving the way for enthusiasts everywhere. Keep on keepin on!
Wow this guy is amazing. To tear down an engine and rebuild it like that is just mind boggling.
I'm totally addicted to your channel...thank you for sharing your knowledge
Congratulations on 1000! I loved this project series.
When buddy hit that lathe I was like ok 👌.
Im super impressed with your work on supras engines. I do really admire you.
I am so stoked right now, you guys are awesome
pop is such a humble guy, acknowledging all his collaborators. respect.
Your knowledge amazes me. You’re so precise with everything you do.
I thought I knew about how cars / engines worked until I came to this channel 🤘🏽
10:33 Have you seen this? A damn triple high five
Was looking just for this comment lmfao i know right
Oh heck yeah! Dyno day is always a great day! This was great! the tech info and straight forward approach is so refreshing!
Holy smokes! That was a really interesting watch over the 4 videos! Thank you! :)
"yeah dude just grilling up my b58 head"
God bless this man for showing more in depth of the B58 engine, and what its capable of. Now I know for sure that any BMW with this engine is a good car.
you guys do such great work, thank you PapadakisRacing!!!
It's pure genius ! Top notch work here. Congrats !
Subbed when I saw you put the head on the bbq. That is just awesome.
Congrats on this killer build!
This is the most interesting car-related series I've ever seen. Thanks so much for this!
These engines are so cool, they’ll be right up there with the 2JZ soon-ish
thank you for expanding my knowledge on engine building