The Ninja 400 became the Ninja 500 this year. 451cc though so not much more power added. Also the 300-400's beginner bikes are actually more expensive used than some 600's in my country. So I started on a 600. (CBR600RR 2003) 0 regrets!
@@dorayaki5494 unfortunately as I’m from the uk these are generic prices for the uk. It’s difficult to be accurate as the markets are always different for every country. Sometimes though some people may see 600s or more supersport type bikes as very intimidating so look at a smaller displacement to just get their feet wet and learn
I got a 22 ktm duke 890r for my first bike it fits me perfect im 6 ft tall 180 lbs I have been racing dirt bikes my whole life and it was a very easy transition highly recommend it for some riders with dirt experience
I started on a cbr650r and i'm very happy with it. But i would say it's really not for everyone if you don't respect its power. I really loved the cbr500r as well it was just a little to small for me but so much smoother and forgiving.
I did the dumb route and I started on a 2019 zx6r. Here in the states there is no tiered licensing. You can start on anything you want. It’s not a good idea to start on a 600, but that’s all I wanted.
I'm planning on getting my license. Rode mopeds in the past, mainly Tomos 4tl. I've got my eye on a Yamaha XV 750 Virago (I love the classics). I know it's a rather hefty displacement but being a V-twin and not a high revving 4 cylinder, I think it might be a suitable bike for a beginner in his early fifties who is familiar with the perils of traffic. I want some transport that is suitable for longer distances for holidays and nice weather commuting. Is this a really bad idea or not?
If you can afford it go for it...I'm from a time where it made sense to learn your big bike craft on a cheap machine similar to what you trained on and if you scraped it it wouldn't matter one iota, ER5 is a great starter bike and will give you a lesson in spannering along the way... plenty of low mileage good ones still out there to this day. 48hp and if need be A2 restriction is a doddle plus Insurance is dirt cheap.
That would be a great bike to start on, the only thing that might cause an issue is insurance due to it being a new bike and not many of them around. It may be very expensive depending on location
just bought my first ever "street legal" bike. thought about either the r7 or the one i got. people said the r7 got boring. chose a 2007 cbr600rr. rode dirtbikes all my life on the street off the street. yes its too fast for an ABSOLUTELY NEVER RIDDEN ANYTHING NEW RIDER. but if you already know how to rev match downshift, progressive front braking is muscle memory and your used to riding on dusty roads on pure dirt knobbies. its not so much that you cant handle it if you just take it slow. just dont be an idiot and you wont die. you can calmly and safely arrive at the speed limit with basic throttle control. dont buy the baby bikes just go for it and dont be stupid if youve ever ridden any manual motorcycle at any real speed or skill level. i love my choice and scared i almost wasted my money on an r7.
@@Saneka999_ this I agree with on some level. But 75% of people buying bikes now either have no experience or have little experience. With the experience you have had and for the time you’ve likely been riding that 600 is just right for you. Someone who is new to bikes who may have ridden a 50cc dirt bike will likely read this and be like yea let’s go straight to a 600 but will be making the wrong choice and a smaller displacement bike will benefit them in the long run
@MotoMorYT I'd say ride a medium sized dirt bike/dual sport like a drz400 crf 250 and practice everything you can. Once you can whip a 250 and up around like it's a toy I'd say your ready for a 600. If you plan on just riding around town and doing small pulls get a "beginner bike" if you really want to get good at it take it to the track put a knee down etc get the 600 and treat at the same level of respect you should treat gun safety. Also a full msf course and doing the more advanced classes would help alot with new riders confidence. Watch yt tutorials and practice in big empty parking lots full gear but push it bit by bit towards the upper limits. Should feel fully comfortable whipping it around(everything becomes muscle memory) before you start trying to go fast. Beginners develop a false confidence once they don't get scared going fast but don't realize they've never avoided a car or dog darting towards you. My left wrist still hurts everyday bc I got too confident and tried to wheelie set it down too fast and grabbed front brake bc I saw a bunch of sand that got washed onto the street from rain. That happened when I first started had to slowly build confidence back up and practiced everything I could find on yt. As long as you have a healthy fear of the bike and respect it you should be fine. Also 0 drinking smoking etc and riding. Not even if you only had 1. Half of moto deaths the rider had alcohol in their system, also intersections basically people running lights and using the yield turn lane. So if you double check and slow down in intersections and never drink and ride your chances of survival go up by like 75%
I did the dumb route and I started on a 2019 zx6r. Here in the states there is no tiered licensing. You can start on anything you want. It’s not a good idea to start on a 600, but that’s all I wanted.
@@RA109E it isn’t like that here in the UK unfortunately. I definitely wouldn’t recommend starting on a 600 supersport for sure but sometimes people grow into their machines quicker and become more comfortable over a shorter period of time
The Ninja 400 became the Ninja 500 this year. 451cc though so not much more power added. Also the 300-400's beginner bikes are actually more expensive used than some 600's in my country. So I started on a 600. (CBR600RR 2003) 0 regrets!
@@dorayaki5494 unfortunately as I’m from the uk these are generic prices for the uk. It’s difficult to be accurate as the markets are always different for every country. Sometimes though some people may see 600s or more supersport type bikes as very intimidating so look at a smaller displacement to just get their feet wet and learn
I got a 22 ktm duke 890r for my first bike it fits me perfect im 6 ft tall 180 lbs I have been racing dirt bikes my whole life and it was a very easy transition highly recommend it for some riders with dirt experience
Finished my CBT yesterday. Be getting a GSX R125 next week. 😀
Still...it's a 125 😩 I want more power!!!!!😈
I started on a cbr650r and i'm very happy with it. But i would say it's really not for everyone if you don't respect its power. I really loved the cbr500r as well it was just a little to small for me but so much smoother and forgiving.
I did the dumb route and I started on a 2019 zx6r. Here in the states there is no tiered licensing. You can start on anything you want.
It’s not a good idea to start on a 600, but that’s all I wanted.
I'm planning on getting my license. Rode mopeds in the past, mainly Tomos 4tl. I've got my eye on a Yamaha XV 750 Virago (I love the classics). I know it's a rather hefty displacement but being a V-twin and not a high revving 4 cylinder, I think it might be a suitable bike for a beginner in his early fifties who is familiar with the perils of traffic. I want some transport that is suitable for longer distances for holidays and nice weather commuting.
Is this a really bad idea or not?
If you can afford it go for it...I'm from a time where it made sense to learn your big bike craft on a cheap machine similar to what you trained on and if you scraped it it wouldn't matter one iota, ER5 is a great starter bike and will give you a lesson in spannering along the way... plenty of low mileage good ones still out there to this day. 48hp and if need be A2 restriction is a doddle plus Insurance is dirt cheap.
@@adivarso8175 this is a great comment, couldn’t agree more !
My first bike Tiger 900 GT Pro and I've done 8k miles on 8 months.
Thinking about starting on a rs 457
That would be a great bike to start on, the only thing that might cause an issue is insurance due to it being a new bike and not many of them around. It may be very expensive depending on location
just bought my first ever "street legal" bike. thought about either the r7 or the one i got. people said the r7 got boring. chose a 2007 cbr600rr. rode dirtbikes all my life on the street off the street. yes its too fast for an ABSOLUTELY NEVER RIDDEN ANYTHING NEW RIDER. but if you already know how to rev match downshift, progressive front braking is muscle memory and your used to riding on dusty roads on pure dirt knobbies. its not so much that you cant handle it if you just take it slow. just dont be an idiot and you wont die. you can calmly and safely arrive at the speed limit with basic throttle control. dont buy the baby bikes just go for it and dont be stupid if youve ever ridden any manual motorcycle at any real speed or skill level. i love my choice and scared i almost wasted my money on an r7.
@@Saneka999_ this I agree with on some level. But 75% of people buying bikes now either have no experience or have little experience. With the experience you have had and for the time you’ve likely been riding that 600 is just right for you. Someone who is new to bikes who may have ridden a 50cc dirt bike will likely read this and be like yea let’s go straight to a 600 but will be making the wrong choice and a smaller displacement bike will benefit them in the long run
@MotoMorYT I'd say ride a medium sized dirt bike/dual sport like a drz400 crf 250 and practice everything you can. Once you can whip a 250 and up around like it's a toy I'd say your ready for a 600. If you plan on just riding around town and doing small pulls get a "beginner bike" if you really want to get good at it take it to the track put a knee down etc get the 600 and treat at the same level of respect you should treat gun safety. Also a full msf course and doing the more advanced classes would help alot with new riders confidence. Watch yt tutorials and practice in big empty parking lots full gear but push it bit by bit towards the upper limits. Should feel fully comfortable whipping it around(everything becomes muscle memory) before you start trying to go fast. Beginners develop a false confidence once they don't get scared going fast but don't realize they've never avoided a car or dog darting towards you. My left wrist still hurts everyday bc I got too confident and tried to wheelie set it down too fast and grabbed front brake bc I saw a bunch of sand that got washed onto the street from rain. That happened when I first started had to slowly build confidence back up and practiced everything I could find on yt. As long as you have a healthy fear of the bike and respect it you should be fine. Also 0 drinking smoking etc and riding. Not even if you only had 1. Half of moto deaths the rider had alcohol in their system, also intersections basically people running lights and using the yield turn lane. So if you double check and slow down in intersections and never drink and ride your chances of survival go up by like 75%
cf moto 450 sr-s☝️
Sorry; but all suggestions are ugly. I will never buy one of those.
I did the dumb route and I started on a 2019 zx6r. Here in the states there is no tiered licensing. You can start on anything you want.
It’s not a good idea to start on a 600, but that’s all I wanted.
@@RA109E it isn’t like that here in the UK unfortunately. I definitely wouldn’t recommend starting on a 600 supersport for sure but sometimes people grow into their machines quicker and become more comfortable over a shorter period of time
@@MotoMorYT so no turbo hayabusa starter bike? I heard that the turbo lag helps you ease into the power band 😂