I’m a Harley rider and honestly, Yammie is right, 50k for a Harley is dumb as shit, with 50k I could probably custom make my own cruiser that functions better for less then the CVO and I don’t need to pay the Harley cost to maintain it I bet.
@@tylerj.6973 not only this, but you could start from any of the other motorcycles and upgrade it for the same amount of money. While Harley Davidson‘s are nice they’re asking the price of a nice SUV or truck for a motorcycle. You can only use part of the year and has a limited cases outside of joy riding. I’m not opposed to having nice things and having a luxury item but with the way the economy is right now it’s nowhere near the right time.
My girlfriend's son's girlfriend rides a GSXR 250.. She worked for 2 years to buy that bike and I taught her to ride.. 25 horsepower and 17 foot pounds of torque but that little girl adores that bike and honesty it's all she could handle... No accidents, no breakdowns and she's out with Gal pal's cruising around Sydney 😎
Yammie doesn't "get" the Suzuki GSX250R. It's a terrific (little) bike. It's a sports touring bike/commuter for smaller riders who don't care that it "only" has 25 HP. Suzuki knows far more about selling bikes than Yammie Noob.
@tedunguent156 People from the US can usually get away with speeding way more than anyone down under. No hidden speed cameras or mandatory demerits/fines would make a 250cc boring in their eyes, for us its all you need for a daily commuter
@392swim Y'all are living the life up there, I'm just about to get get my full motorcycle license here and ill still need to wait an extra 3 years to get a ZX-4RR 😭 You go tear one down the interstate and ill live through you vicariously
It's the only bike still sold today that looks like that. I think it has its place and charm. Though yeah, if I was a new rider...I'd go for any used V-Star for cheaper on Facebook.
I rode a V-Star 250 for a couple of weeks when my Tbird was off the road. A fun, easy to ride bike with one of the worst OEM gearing I've used. Way too low geared: into third gear within 100ft! Maybe Ok for real beginners but would be soon outgrown. Can be fixed (as most owners do) by changing front and rear sprockets. And what about the Yamaha Niken for worst bike ever? I do agree on the R1800 though!
The V Star 250 is actually an awesome little bike. It has charm, reliable as hell, and the little vtwin has character lacking in other sub 300cc bikes. Used market is $1500-$2000 on average total win!
I had an honor of owning a v-star 250 which was produced in 1988. Despite being underpowered shortgeared bike, it gave me a lot of fun and the feel of a REAL true cruiser. Metal fenders, carburetor, pleasant engine sound, good amount of torque at 1 gear (this bike could climb a vertical wall like nothing, I swear) and a light smell of gas. The rebel is a bike without a soul, more like a car, while V-star has it's own charm, character and feeling. Definitely NOT a worst bike YAMAHA makes. P.S I had this bike in 2021 and it was still running perfectly despite being 33 years old. A bulletproof engine.
Totally agree The rebel is a soulless bike It’s a Toyota Corolla It does the job and that’s it I think he’s forgetting that most people starting off want something light, comfortable, easy to ride and has character I sold v-stars and they were the easiest thing to sell, for almost any newbie it was perfect for them, never saw them coming back scared or regretful, always had a big smile And the owners knew it was slow and underpowered, they didn’t care 🤷🏻♂️
@@lawrencemercieca It's not really slow, but the sprockets could be better. That would solve a lot of it. The V-Twin has good low-end power for more speed. But it's a good size and weight for me at 68. Same size and overall look of a mid-80's Sportster.
Just because you like something doesn’t mean it isn’t objectively bad. Please, in all your wisdom, tell us the worst bike Yamaha makes. We’ll all wait for you to search their catalogue and not find a single bike that is objectively worse, just to come back with a ridiculous answer that just amounts to “I guess I don’t like this bike for absolutely made up reasons”
@@asphaltannihilator157 why should I even waste my time trying to find out what is worse and what is better, i'm not 6 yo. Different people have different metrics of what is bad and what is good :)
The V-star 250 serves one great purpose: MSF bikes. Also, with the cost difference between a Ninja 400 and the E-ninja you can ride the 400 for approx 40k miles in fuel costs alone, which is far more than most will ride it.
I'm happily amazed to see all the love for the Vstar 250 in these comments. It was my first bike and I spent over two years on it. Sure it needed 2 miles of downslope and a tailwind to achieve highway speed but I loved it anyway. It's nice that you can still get something so utterly barebones and friendly
Mine's a 2018. Looks like and same size as a mid-80's Sportster for less money. Classic look and simple, old-fashioned style in the new age. Electronic ignition, but that's it. Turning it into a studded black leather lil metalhead bagger. Raven black metallic too.
Harley rider here. Those legendary orange CVOs just sit and sit in the dealers. My local dealer is in an affluent area and has 5 of those on the floor. It’s laughable.
I was at my local Kawi dealer a few weeks ago for an oil filter, and the guy at the counter said Kawasaki USA wanted them to take 2 E1 bikes, which the dealer refused to do. 6 hour charge time for 40 mile range!
The price is outrageous. If they were selling it for like $3500 I could understand why someone who lives in a compact city, like Manhattan, SF, or Boston would want one. But for 8k!? No way in hell.
I still have a vstar250 that is over 30 years old. It just recently tried to unalive me so I will get rid of it. But that thing runs forever. A guy managed to get 166.787km on one of his.
@@Watson4346 Sure. One day the bike decided to jump the chain from the chain ring. It got stuck between the swing arm and chain ring where it stopped the rear wheel from turning. After a short slide, I ended up doing a highsider. Luckily that happened in town and for some reason, there was no traffic. Lessons learned: look more after your bike.
I dunno. I always thought the V Star 250 is pretty nifty. Great learner bike. Carbs and drum brakes, there is nothing wrong with that. $4700 for a new one, not bad. My vote for worst Yamaha is the SCR 900.
It's air cooled and can be worked on with basic tools. No silly stuff you don't need on it. 325 lbs full of gas stock and you can pretty easily drop 15-20lbs with an exhaust and a lithium battery. I put mine on a diet and upped the gearing on it, it's a decent little machine.
Nah, the VStar 250 doesn’t deserve that slander. The only thing I agree with is not buying it new since the used market for it is so great. It’s reliable, simple mechanics, great gas mileage, large size for taller people… it’s great. Especially when bought used. And since it’s the same mechanically since the 90s there’s plenty of parts and forums on the bike for modding and fixing things. 👌
I owned a ‘21 Triumph Street Twin (900cc). I had been out of riding for 20+ years. I opted for that over an Iron 883 or a Ducati Scrambler. Now… if I were to do it again… I would have just bought a Suzuki SV650. Still the best “do-it-all” bike of all time.
Probably you could sell the '21 Street Twin used and buy a used SV650 with the money, and easily have money left over. If you'd rather have an SV650, there you go.
If you are gonna do it all again and get an sv650 do it fast. I think they're phasing that model out and opting for the gsx 8s as its replacement. I got the last 2024 I could find for sale in eastern NC and they were selling it at almost $2k lower than msrp with 0 miles on it. They're trying to get rid of these things. Get one while you can.
@@englishsteel-nz6im oh I know. I was looking at one of those as well as an MT07. However, they'll never beat the sv650 on looks, practicality, ease of use(literally a bike a new rider can hop on) and overall versatility. They're perfect for beginners, as daily riders, and even for people who want something that is fun but don't care about it being a rocket. Don't even get me started on reliability and replacement parts cost. This thing is like the Honda accord of motorcycles when it comes to reliability
Yammie, the vstar 250 or the real name the virago 250, is a really indestructible bike, i've known people with 100 k kms on it an they still going strong. Some people does not want a bike with tech all over the place, the vstar 250 is real old school and it will not fail you, good ol and reliable with a sproket change you can cruise all day long doing 60 mph at 6k rpm.
Thats pretty funny, while my Ducati dealer was putting BST Carbon wheels on my Diavel V4 I took a Multistrada V4 out for a ride and loved it. Different strokes for different folks 😊
Agreed, I didn't recently buy a Multistrada V4S for it's limited dual sport capability, I bought it as a street touring bike and love the feel, the sound, storage space, looks, and reliability. For a 530 lb. bike it feels pretty balanced and maneuverable to me, but I have limited riding experience on other bikes and am not an expert.
I own the Ducati Streetfighter V4s, Diavel V4 and Multistrada V4. Each bike does its job very well. The Multi is a great relatively light weight and powerful sport tourer. Given the Multi’s active suspension and 19 inch front, it also works as a backroads-oriented adventure bike.
Totally agree with you! He should be “roasted” for bringing up the multistrada v4. If you are an experienced rider with many years under your belt, and have had the fortunate opportunities to ride top tier motorcycles like a new Ducati, then you know…
Most people that I've met who own these want the fun and allure of the v4 but want to ride with a pillion or don't want to be in pain while riding, I believe there's definitely a market for these, hard to call it the worst bike ducati makes
lol, me too! of course you will find the limits of this bike quite quickly, but riding this gentleman on beat up roads is great. the engine and torque delivery with the sound and the looks: hard to beat. a riding style of it’s own!
i tried the complete line-up. the absolute no-go was the trident! sounded bas and only wants to go straight. the 1200 bonnie to heavy. the 1200 speed twin was awesome, but in „loose your licence“-territory 😂
I have to disagree a bit on CFMoto. Im on the hunt for an entry level naked. The 300NK is 3700€ and the 450NK is 5500€. Its quite a jump. You can get the 300NK + all the gear/clothes you need for less total that the 450NK by it self.
Chinese bikes are extremely popular in most latin American countries they literally dominate the market at least for more than half of it, only a few people can afford Japanese or European bikes. Their strategy is clear; they give you more for less money, unfortunately it’s not always the case, 90% of those makers claim to have this or that much horsepower “more than rivals” like the cfmoto 250nk claims to have 27.5HP while being around 1000$ cheaper than rivals and still loses to a Suzuki gixxer 250 or KTM duke 250. Same thing with the 300NK, the only one that I’ve heard it’s good enough it’s the 450sr claims to be better than a ninja 400 and stuff but honestly I dont trust must reviewers some colombian dude was given a motorcycle for free for doing a video showing off the 250sr so I dont know about it, I still don’t trust Chinese makers, so far they proven to not be as good as they claim and have to rely on paid reviews so I would stick to Japanese bikes if I were you
the fact that you choose the V85TT means you dont get what Guzzi is about. The worst is the Stelvio. And it’s not the worst because its a bad bike. Its the worst because it’s not a Guzzi. Comparing Guzzis with GS… no way….
As someone who picked up a new old stock 2017 VStar 250 in May, respectfully, you don't understand the market niche. The VStar 250 is 40 lbs lighter, and has the classic V twin look and sound. The Rebel 300 - while not bad! - is doing something different with the bone line and I don't like it as much. If the VStar didn't exist, I'd settle for a Rebel, but the VStar is a neat bike that has taught me a lot
The BMW R18 is beautiful. To look at. I think it has a place with people who ride the speed limit and do short rides on the weekends. It is truly beautifully made. I see some coming on sale used at great prices with very low miles. The thing is all pistons. This is a used bike you never have to be worried about it being abused. A two wheeled Panzer.
I think I'm just not a big cruiser guy, but I hated riding one when I tested it. For how low the pistons and engine are, it's still oddly topheavy, and I feel like it really lets down the people coming in thinking it might be a return to a classic R bike in terms of both form and function. When I got back to the dealership, the salesman saw the disappointed look on my face and said "I know what'll perk you up" and handed me the keys to a bumblebee R1250GS. That was way more fun: handled better and had a way more responsive throttle.
I don’t know from where Suzuki gets their hate but they are making bikes for a specific audience. Reliable, safe, cheap and still packs a punch even for a starter bike.
Try 1988 (XV250 Virago)... The Virago lineup didn't get the real 'cruiser' styling (teardrop tank, wire wheels, staggered dual exhaust, etc) until 1984. '81-3 was more Euro style with some Japanese flair, and only in 750/ 920 models. The Yamaha/ Guzzi dealership I worked at sold around 15 of the 250 Viragos in 1990, which was more than we sold of the rest of the lineup combined! Of course that was amidst a recession with absolutely horrid MC sales all across the region that eventually shuttered that store by Labor Day... That said, they were great little bikes, unintimidating for beginner riders, and one of the few bikes I've ever seen set up for a 'little person' to ride safely (and I met up with him while cross-country touring on it!) without external aids.
I work as a salesman at a moto dealership and one of the brands we carry is BMW. I can confirm the R18 is their worst bike, and despite having a boxer engine its center of gravity is somehow still way higher than the Indian baggers sitting across from them. When Neanderthal bagger guys coming in looking for the heaviest touring bike (yeah, that’s a thing) I show them the R18 baggers/transcontinental’s party trick. I can jump onto the right floorboard without it coming off the side stand.
the thing is there are two different versions of the GSX250R, one which is a liquid-cooled parallel twin and another which is an air-cooled single, whcih strangely enough makes slightly more horsepower, and revs higher than the twin. It's usually referred to as the Gixxer 250 SF(no kidding, that's the actual name) and although it is still less exciting than what one would generally expect a 250 to be, it is still a far better proposition as a sports-bike than the GSX250R parallel twin, which seems to be best suited to applications like the V-Strom 250. (and funnily enough, the one being shown in the video is in fact the single cylinder Gixxer 250)
Exactly what I was gonna say. Here in India the gixxer 250 SF costs around INR 250,000 ( around US $ 3000). Which makes it a decent beginner bike here. Correction- it has an oil cooled engine. Not air cooled
Both are pale in comparison to GSX-R150, which theoretically could produce 31hp if the displacement enlarged to 250cc. Or it could be more, if we consider among 150cc bikes they produce the most power per displacement. The only reason GSXR250 still appealing is only in the looks department, because to be honest both GSXR150 and Gixxer SF250 doesn't really looks like the baby version of original Gixxer.
@@z4520ft HP per displacement is a meme. You have to account strokes, compression and RPM into them. the 150cc revs insanely high (Yamaha R15s and Honda CBR150Rs are no different) and that's where the horsepower comes from. The 250cc class area always tuned to be tame and long-lasting engines.
@@ZeroXSEED you must be from India if you think R15 and CBR150R revs 'insanely high'. Please check out Suzuki GSXR 150, it produces 19Hp @ 10,500RPM and revs up to 12,000RPM. And it produces that power from 147cc single cylinder mill compared to Yamaha R15's 155cc VVT. Now, that what I would call as insane and speaks volume why HP per displacement matter. As for 250cc class, again it seems you're only looking at Indian market as in south east Asia, CBR 250RR is very common rivaling Ninja ZX25R. Both can revs up more than 13,000RPM, and obviously not tame if they are coming with riding modes. So coming back to HP per displacement, it's a way to gauge how well the engine are built and their characteristics so it's certainly can't be dismissed easily as meme. Unlike car, bikes can have many engine configurations within the same displacement so if you have enough experience with bikes, you'll have some idea how the engine are built just by looking at their HP per displacement. For example, bike that produces higher HP compared to the rest in the same displacement class most likely to have oversquare engine (eg. CBR250RR) while bike that have more torque to be undersquare (eg. GSXR250). This oversquare/undersquare also will determine how high they can revs as oversquare engine with short stroke will be able to achieve higher RPM compared to engine that has longer stroke. Also less common in smaller displacement is cylinder counts, but obviously 4 cylinder engine with smaller and lighter piston will be able to revs higher compared to 2 cylinder and 1 cylinder. Also for the same piston size reason, engine with larger displacement but same piston count eg. one cylinder will have lower revs compared to smaller displacement (eg. Duke 690 vs Duke 200) due to internal piston speed limit.
@@z4520ft 12000 RPM is insanely high for a single cylinder engine. Come on mate, no need to go full nerd. In fairness I should specify I'm talking about 250cc singles. Especially without water cooling. (Oil cooled engines have one weakness: the heat degrades oil service life)
I agree. But even if Yam tries the Vstar 250, he will rev the sh*t out of a poor bike, then saying that it does not move... If he tries to CRUISE on it, 40-50 mph around some free roads, it would make a sense
If you like a honda rebel 500 for a beginner bike then there is some up and coming competition from cfmoto. Cfmoto 450 cl-c has been out for a few years in foreign markets. It is being introduced in USA in the 2025 lineup. It has a few less hp than the rebel 500 but it makes up for it with tech and it drops the chain to the belt for a quieter and smoother cruiser experience. It has the same motor as the cfmoto 450ss. 2 of the things i really like about the 450 cl-c is the color option and it has a 3.5 TFT that shows rpms. The cost is very reasonable at 5,799 MSRP. The Honda Rebel 500 is still stuck using a LCD with no rpms. The color combination is not very good. and they want to charge you Base MSRP $6,999.
Kinda weird that you said that the Ducati Multistarda V4 is the worst bike considering that it is their number one selling bike. I thought that the Ducati Streetfighter V4 Lamborghini edition with it's $68,000 to $83,000 price tag would be the worst bike. 🤔
You are 1000% correct on the Vstar 250. My wife bought one right after she got her endorsement, and after 2 trips on it, was asking me to find her a bike with better power and brakes. Kinda crazy that she found a 2002 ROADStar, yes a 1600, and was immediately more comfortable riding with brakes that work, a bike that pulled away from lights with easy and quite simply handled much better....
The V-star 250 is smoother than any other single or parallel. Yammie needs to brush up that beginners don’t want to feel like their engine is rattling apart.
I really like the V-Twin 250 in mine. Now when I get the chrome side mounts installed with customized pipe from the back cylinder to the upper primary...
The reason why Yammie Noob is wrong about the CBR500R is that Honda made it for people who want a commuter, chill bike that is a sports bike in looks only. Just look at all his complaints about it. Its 40 lbs heavier than the competition, it has a boring gearbox, no clip ons, upright seating position. Lolz I mean...its obvious isnt it?
Great list! I had the suzuki gxr250 a years ago. A great bike, but it hasnt changed a bit since the first version. Today it feels old. Reliable but old.
Indian Roadmaster Elite is gonna be my next bike. By the time you factor in the premium audio, the unique wheels, the premium adaptive LED headlight, the technology, and the passanger arm rests, youre basically getting the most beautiful paint in the motorcycle industry for free. The Honda Goldwing is $10,000 less sure. But its 100lbs shy in max payload, significantly less storage space. Has worse navigation technology, Torque is way less, and the Goldwing has a 160 watt 4 speaker system compared to the Indians 12 Speaker 600 watt system. And the Goldwing doesnt have a cooling seat. Amd every goldwing looks generic and the same. Theres no contest here. The roadmaster elite competes with Harleys $20,000 more than itself.
I have the Honda '19 CB500X & I love that 471 cc engine it's fast enough to have fun but doesn't really get you in as much trouble as a big bike VERY enjoyable to ride. I keep up with my buddies on bigger bikes they ride Harleys, V-stroms NEVER had a prob keeping up with them
It didn't beat up on a 3rd Gen Hayabusa. It just beat up on a couple dudes who don't know how to ride a Busa. I'll put $1,000 on a race between me on a Gen 3 Busa and Yammie on that MV Augusta. Calling you out Yammie! 隼
I'm not sure why you'd beat up the Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak when it won rhe Pikes Peak Hillclimb Challenge in 2012 and 2018. It's not a burgeoning refrigerator, as you put it, at all. It's got exceptional handling and power in a more upright position with less knee bend. It's absolutely amazing to ride so I don't see how your comment has any relevance to the characteristics of the bike at all. As a sportbike guy, I would have thought you would have acknowledged it's high performance aspects.
Idk about 300nk from cfmoto. I have no problems with the bike. It's tune, i have full exhaust SC Project system, upgraded air filter making about 25ft pounds of torque. So how is this bike a failure from cfmoto?
He said worst in the lineup. In the US, because we don't have the same licensing restrictions, the price difference between the 300 and 400 is small enough that the 300 seems out of place.
I had a Guzzi V85TT and it was a great bike! Handled great, very good suspension, easy to work on. The only reason I got rid of it was because I wanted more power. I broke my own rule of "nothing under 1000cc".
I rented a vstar 250 to ride around hokkaido for 4-5 days and it was great fun. I hadn't ridden for a while it was a joy just cruising through the hills and from town to town going to my next destination. Obviously not for everyone but I can't hate.
The triumph one was a good one, I was unsure what you would choose. I somewhat disagree with the Royal Enfield choice. The carbied Himalayan offered something that no other manufacturer was offering: a cheap and cheerful, reliable and simple adventure bike. Now they've "updated/upgraded" it and the price has increased, it fits in virtually the same category as all other light/midweight adventure/scrambler bikes. As far as reliability/build quality goes: If I have to pay the same money, I'm buying a 400 Triumph or Japanese any day of the week.
Just bought a 2000' XV 250 and for a second bike it does the job pretty well in brazilian roads and streets.. but agree that selling a carburated bike in 2024 is kinda wicked.
My theory on why each exists: 1. Vstar 250: these are so very common at the MSF courses, and that makes sense. An easy to ride, cheap, 250cc bike without a lot of plastic bits to break when it gets dropped 30 times in a month. I doubt Yamaha expect many sales to folks other than the beginner course instructors. 2. Kawasaki E1: well, they are trying just about every lane of motorcycle technology, so makes sense they'd have an all-electric, but this is more a work in progress or for enthusiasts. 3. GSXR 250: same reason as 1, except for those who want a sport bike. Might also be helpful in places with strict motorcycle displacement laws. I've seen a tiny person hit very nearly 100mph on one of these too. 4. Honda CBR 500R. Nothing wrong with this bike. Sometimes you want something in between the other displacements. Also, what's with the extra R's? I do agree it feels heavy. 5. Ducati Multistrada V4: actually, I might agree on this one. The one thing it has going for it compared to the standard Multistrada is that it doesn't have that weird feeling of the v--excuse me, l--twin. The L twin Multistrada was better otherwise. 6,7,8,9,10: i don't have enough experience with these brands to comment. 11: BMW R18: ah, this is where I certainly can say something. A lot of folks don't like the R18, and usually the complain is styling. I can agree it's polarizing, but I sorta like the visual concept that you look at it and see....ENGINE. I feel like that's what one should see when they see a bike. It also rides like it too. But yeah, it doesn't sell well. The rest of the brands I can't comment on for the most part, except Harley. I sorta want to say they are all bad, but that ain't quite true. I think that new sport glide is a good move for them, as is the new engine family. I can also respect their attempt at an electric bike. They still sell 3 models of electric, so probably 1 of those should take this position...
The V Star 250 is a V-Twin with 21HP. It's charm is the low-end torque in this bike that some refer to as a sport Cruiser. Not to be confused with a sport bike. It is the same size as a mid-80's Sportster. Same over-all style too. But 326lbs vs 583lbs for the Sportster. And since you hate cruisers and only like some multi-hundred horsepower, 2-wheeled GRX, you should stop with the put-downs. I like your videos, but this is always going to be a sticky point. We are not all trying to be Craig Breedlove on a road course. And I can lean my '18 Star 250 over pretty far. Learned that from watching King Kenny invent back in the 70's. Some things you just can't help doing.
YAM!!! Im still rocovering from the roast you gave in 21 on my cbr500r....i can't get any DARKER!!!!!! good news im at 24,600mi now with a vortex chain/ sprocket set up of 14/43. Chopping up my 600 and 1k buddiies in the twisties. Love this bike!!! I have enjoyed your content for quite sometime!!
Ya know, the only thing that gets me is the name. Virago is Hispanic for a mean spirited, loud-mouth woman. What we now call a " Karen"! Idk? Maybe the Japanese read that as, " spirited"?
Agree with your assessment of the Multistrada. I went with a DesertX back in May of 2023 (with the full decat Termi race exhaust and EVO tune, over 120 hp). It is currently at Ducati for the DESMO service. Yeah, over 18k miles in 16 months. The bike has been flawless. Oh, and CF Moto NK? That sounds like a bike Curly would ride.....Nuk, nuk, nuk.
Check the air pressure every week. I wish I had known that earlier. It's been a month since I last filled them up and they had dropped about 6 lbs or more. Before that I had run them down really low after 2 months of riding and not checking. I'll be on top of that way better now. Thanks.
I would ride the v250. I have a meteor 350 and it gets 70 mpg. Great for 27 mile stretches back road to work. Which is what most riders do on a given day. Plus light weight
Not a BMW loyalist but it's so much easier to work on and well made than my Kawasaki was. I didn't how fun doing your own maintenance was until I switched. Wish more people talked about that when reviewing motorcycles
16:18 For as far as I know the 411 platform is discontinued. So not really fair to mention them in this October 2024 video. 😀Those 450's are great! So much more powerful than the 411's.
The Yamaha XSR looks like something a small child cobbled together from parts he found in a trash bin. It is NOT "retro" in any way. The Triumph Speed Twin IS retro. For that matter almost EVERY Yamaha is horrible to look at now. Great bikes, kindergarten styling. It is VERY unfortunate that Yammie is such a brand snob and thinks horsepower is the only measure of a good bike.
I understand that Husqvarna doesn't make many road bikes, but I have a Norden Expedition myself and I have to be honest, I think it's a great bike. I've also ridden the new Svartpillen and I really thought they were a disappointment...
I hope You could try motorcycles from india. Bajaj and Hero. They make low -mid cc bikes . They are very popular because they offer more tech, hp and cost less than japanese brands.
The R 18 is honestly a great bike...it's just simply that the HD owners are pretty much fully devolved in their thinking when it comes to good touring/cruising bikes. However their contempt for foreign bikes allowed me to get my R 18 B for a steal of a price with all of the features of HD and more.
I rented a Honda CB500F last year while my Yamaha MT-07 was in the shop; it is basically a Honda CBR500 minus the fairing. Although the materials and fit and finish were superior to all of the Yamahas I have owned over 40 years, I was not impressed as it weighed more than my MT-07 and was no faster than my daughter’s Yamaha YZF-R3, which felt much more lively than the Honda.
Here in italy ktm is doing a heavy discount campaign on all the bikes and right now a 790 duke costs as much as a mt07 so right now is probably the best a2/middleweight bike here
The beauty of a BMW R-19 doesn't make sense to a sport rider. It does everything a cruiser rider needs it to do. It's reliable, easy to work on and looks like a work of art.
Vstar 250 is a great bike. Definitely doesn't deserve that hate. It's a simple pure machine that won't let you down, and on the off chance it does it's incredibly simple to work on, air cooled carbureted engine.
A 250 v-twin ? I asked the Kawasaki dealership about the electric sales a month ago , he said they haven't sold A SINGLE ONE.... a lot of these bikes are just due to their price and better choices are out there. The cbr500r @ 4,500 USD winner .... The cbr500r more than a new mt-07, used gsxs s750, used mt-09, xsr.... Hahaha
I’m a Harley rider and honestly, Yammie is right, 50k for a Harley is dumb as shit, with 50k I could probably custom make my own cruiser that functions better for less then the CVO and I don’t need to pay the Harley cost to maintain it I bet.
Yeah man, you could put any one of a dozen great motorcycle engines into a great frame
@@tylerj.6973 not only this, but you could start from any of the other motorcycles and upgrade it for the same amount of money. While Harley Davidson‘s are nice they’re asking the price of a nice SUV or truck for a motorcycle. You can only use part of the year and has a limited cases outside of joy riding. I’m not opposed to having nice things and having a luxury item but with the way the economy is right now it’s nowhere near the right time.
@@vashspecter this is why I bought my KLR650
I work for harley and I agree as well, 50k is insane
Fellow Harley rider here and I also agree, for 50k you can get a one year old Sierra 1500 Denali, or 4 different slightly used bikes.
My girlfriend's son's girlfriend rides a GSXR 250.. She worked for 2 years to buy that bike and I taught her to ride.. 25 horsepower and 17 foot pounds of torque but that little girl adores that bike and honesty it's all she could handle... No accidents, no breakdowns and she's out with Gal pal's cruising around Sydney 😎
Yammie doesn't "get" the Suzuki GSX250R. It's a terrific (little) bike. It's a sports touring bike/commuter for smaller riders who don't care that it "only" has 25 HP. Suzuki knows far more about selling bikes than Yammie Noob.
@@tedunguent156i started on a suzuk fxr150 back in 2004, one of the most fun bikes I've had and I've had 10 bikes since
@tedunguent156 People from the US can usually get away with speeding way more than anyone down under. No hidden speed cameras or mandatory demerits/fines would make a 250cc boring in their eyes, for us its all you need for a daily commuter
@@staunxzynice way to say we don’t give a fuck, and I agree 😂😂😂
@392swim Y'all are living the life up there, I'm just about to get get my full motorcycle license here and ill still need to wait an extra 3 years to get a ZX-4RR 😭 You go tear one down the interstate and ill live through you vicariously
I honestly didn't realize Yamaha still made the V-star 250. Wow.
I think a 250cc vtwin is awesome, i love small displacement in cool engine layouts like the 500cc inline four also
It's the only bike still sold today that looks like that. I think it has its place and charm. Though yeah, if I was a new rider...I'd go for any used V-Star for cheaper on Facebook.
I purely think the only people buying them is the MSF, they're really good for the course
I rode a V-Star 250 for a couple of weeks when my Tbird was off the road. A fun, easy to ride bike with one of the worst OEM gearing I've used. Way too low geared: into third gear within 100ft! Maybe Ok for real beginners but would be soon outgrown. Can be fixed (as most owners do) by changing front and rear sprockets.
And what about the Yamaha Niken for worst bike ever?
I do agree on the R1800 though!
My beater bike is an old virago 250, that little thing runs all day on a chilli fart and was dirt cheap. It's a great trainer for friends and family.
This feels like a short list of some pretty respectable machines. If this is the worst of the worst, we're doing alright.
@@zachbrown5264 exactly!!!💪
The V Star 250 is actually an awesome little bike. It has charm, reliable as hell, and the little vtwin has character lacking in other sub 300cc bikes. Used market is $1500-$2000 on average total win!
Indiana is retiring their vstorms next year for the MSF courses... after 20 years of service and being constantly dropped/abused. Reliable for sure.
I had an honor of owning a v-star 250 which was produced in 1988. Despite being underpowered shortgeared bike, it gave me a lot of fun and the feel of a REAL true cruiser. Metal fenders, carburetor, pleasant engine sound, good amount of torque at 1 gear (this bike could climb a vertical wall like nothing, I swear) and a light smell of gas. The rebel is a bike without a soul, more like a car, while V-star has it's own charm, character and feeling. Definitely NOT a worst bike YAMAHA makes.
P.S I had this bike in 2021 and it was still running perfectly despite being 33 years old. A bulletproof engine.
Totally agree
The rebel is a soulless bike
It’s a Toyota Corolla
It does the job and that’s it
I think he’s forgetting that most people starting off want something light, comfortable, easy to ride and has character
I sold v-stars and they were the easiest thing to sell, for almost any newbie it was perfect for them, never saw them coming back scared or regretful, always had a big smile
And the owners knew it was slow and underpowered, they didn’t care 🤷🏻♂️
I still have a Virago 1100- snotty little bastard it is! Makes the VStar look like a Harley.
@@lawrencemercieca It's not really slow, but the sprockets could be better. That would solve a lot of it. The V-Twin has good low-end power for more speed. But it's a good size and weight for me at 68. Same size and overall look of a mid-80's Sportster.
Just because you like something doesn’t mean it isn’t objectively bad. Please, in all your wisdom, tell us the worst bike Yamaha makes. We’ll all wait for you to search their catalogue and not find a single bike that is objectively worse, just to come back with a ridiculous answer that just amounts to “I guess I don’t like this bike for absolutely made up reasons”
@@asphaltannihilator157 why should I even waste my time trying to find out what is worse and what is better, i'm not 6 yo. Different people have different metrics of what is bad and what is good :)
The V-star 250 serves one great purpose: MSF bikes.
Also, with the cost difference between a Ninja 400 and the E-ninja you can ride the 400 for approx 40k miles in fuel costs alone, which is far more than most will ride it.
Also huge overseas
TW200 is a MSF bike too
...far more than most will ride it. That's a shame, because on road and track, the Ninja 400 is a crazy fun with very low running costs.
The 400 was the same price of the 500 in Australia. We ended up buying 500 as I didn't think 400 would hold value as well 3yrs down the track
I'm happily amazed to see all the love for the Vstar 250 in these comments. It was my first bike and I spent over two years on it. Sure it needed 2 miles of downslope and a tailwind to achieve highway speed but I loved it anyway. It's nice that you can still get something so utterly barebones and friendly
Mine's a 2018. Looks like and same size as a mid-80's Sportster for less money. Classic look and simple, old-fashioned style in the new age. Electronic ignition, but that's it. Turning it into a studded black leather lil metalhead bagger. Raven black metallic too.
Harley rider here. Those legendary orange CVOs just sit and sit in the dealers. My local dealer is in an affluent area and has 5 of those on the floor. It’s laughable.
For $50k I expect it to be fully faired, shaft driven and extremely reliable
I want a new Goldwing is what I'm saying
You gotta admit that little baby V twin in the V star sounds cool as hell
Vstar was my first bike 15 years ago, i loved it, had it chopped down like a bopper, cost 3k and got me everywhere.
The Moto Guzzi is an AMAZING bike.
Just amazing.
V85TT is just pure art. Also rides amazing.
Love mine!!
The thing that gets me is the weight, though. If they could just lose some heft!
I was at my local Kawi dealer a few weeks ago for an oil filter, and the guy at the counter said Kawasaki USA wanted them to take 2 E1 bikes, which the dealer refused to do. 6 hour charge time for 40 mile range!
The price is crazy for 12hp and a 40 mile range.
Wow... No one wants electric bikes...
The price is outrageous. If they were selling it for like $3500 I could understand why someone who lives in a compact city, like Manhattan, SF, or Boston would want one. But for 8k!? No way in hell.
I still have a vstar250 that is over 30 years old. It just recently tried to unalive me so I will get rid of it. But that thing runs forever. A guy managed to get 166.787km on one of his.
Must have been pretty scary since you can't even spell out "kill me"😭😭
@@bruceclark5627 yeah maybe she is reading here too.
please share how it almost unalived you.
@@Watson4346 Sure. One day the bike decided to jump the chain from the chain ring. It got stuck between the swing arm and chain ring where it stopped the rear wheel from turning. After a short slide, I ended up doing a highsider. Luckily that happened in town and for some reason, there was no traffic. Lessons learned: look more after your bike.
I dunno. I always thought the V Star 250 is pretty nifty. Great learner bike. Carbs and drum brakes, there is nothing wrong with that. $4700 for a new one, not bad. My vote for worst Yamaha is the SCR 900.
But you can pretty much get a new Triumph Speed 400 for that price.
Never been a fan of the retro style bikes. So I'll agree.
It's great but if buying new for 4k+ that made it bad just buy a used one
@@olddirtbiker5088I wouldn't buy a V Star for MSRP, but if you can find one around the 3k mark that's new, I'd say it's worth it.
250cc v Twins are special at this point because v twins are special now
It's air cooled and can be worked on with basic tools. No silly stuff you don't need on it. 325 lbs full of gas stock and you can pretty easily drop 15-20lbs with an exhaust and a lithium battery. I put mine on a diet and upped the gearing on it, it's a decent little machine.
Nah, the VStar 250 doesn’t deserve that slander. The only thing I agree with is not buying it new since the used market for it is so great.
It’s reliable, simple mechanics, great gas mileage, large size for taller people… it’s great. Especially when bought used. And since it’s the same mechanically since the 90s there’s plenty of parts and forums on the bike for modding and fixing things. 👌
For 50k you could get a KLR, a T7, an Africa Twin and a lifetime supply of bjs.
The bike you showed is not a gsxr250...it is a gixxer sf 250. That is a single cylinder 250cc. Also, it is a pretty good bike for what it is
I owned a ‘21 Triumph Street Twin (900cc). I had been out of riding for 20+ years. I opted for that over an Iron 883 or a Ducati Scrambler. Now… if I were to do it again… I would have just bought a Suzuki SV650. Still the best “do-it-all” bike of all time.
Probably you could sell the '21 Street Twin used and buy a used SV650 with the money, and easily have money left over. If you'd rather have an SV650, there you go.
@@dirkdiggler5164 or an SV that's modded to the gills with all the good stuff lol and have some left over for top notch gear.
If you are gonna do it all again and get an sv650 do it fast. I think they're phasing that model out and opting for the gsx 8s as its replacement. I got the last 2024 I could find for sale in eastern NC and they were selling it at almost $2k lower than msrp with 0 miles on it. They're trying to get rid of these things. Get one while you can.
@@VicinalElk44104 On that note the gsx8s or r is a better bike lol
Rode the R with full exhaust, amazing engine.
@@englishsteel-nz6im oh I know. I was looking at one of those as well as an MT07. However, they'll never beat the sv650 on looks, practicality, ease of use(literally a bike a new rider can hop on) and overall versatility. They're perfect for beginners, as daily riders, and even for people who want something that is fun but don't care about it being a rocket. Don't even get me started on reliability and replacement parts cost. This thing is like the Honda accord of motorcycles when it comes to reliability
Yammie, the vstar 250 or the real name the virago 250, is a really indestructible bike, i've known people with 100 k kms on it an they still going strong.
Some people does not want a bike with tech all over the place, the vstar 250 is real old school and it will not fail you, good ol and reliable with a sproket change you can cruise all day long doing 60 mph at 6k rpm.
Thats pretty funny, while my Ducati dealer was putting BST Carbon wheels on my Diavel V4 I took a Multistrada V4 out for a ride and loved it. Different strokes for different folks 😊
Agreed, I didn't recently buy a Multistrada V4S for it's limited dual sport capability, I bought it as a street touring bike and love the feel, the sound, storage space, looks, and reliability. For a 530 lb. bike it feels pretty balanced and maneuverable to me, but I have limited riding experience on other bikes and am not an expert.
3:19 Suzuki gsx250r but in the vid shows a gixxer250sf a single cylinder motorcycle.. Two different motorcycle..
💯😂
true bro needs some research, but irony is that the sf250 is outdated too
I own the Ducati Streetfighter V4s, Diavel V4 and Multistrada V4. Each bike does its job very well. The Multi is a great relatively light weight and powerful sport tourer. Given the Multi’s active suspension and 19 inch front, it also works as a backroads-oriented adventure bike.
Totally agree with you! He should be “roasted” for bringing up the multistrada v4. If you are an experienced rider with many years under your belt, and have had the fortunate opportunities to ride top tier motorcycles like a new Ducati, then you know…
Most people that I've met who own these want the fun and allure of the v4 but want to ride with a pillion or don't want to be in pain while riding, I believe there's definitely a market for these, hard to call it the worst bike ducati makes
I have a 23 triumph speed 900 and love it. Does it make sense? Not sure, but it sounds glorious and is fun to ride
lol, me too! of course you will find the limits of this bike quite quickly, but riding this gentleman on beat up roads is great. the engine and torque delivery with the sound and the looks: hard to beat. a riding style of it’s own!
i tried the complete line-up. the absolute no-go was the trident! sounded bas and only wants to go straight. the 1200 bonnie to heavy. the 1200 speed twin was awesome, but in „loose your licence“-territory 😂
Absolutely love my 900. Does everything I want it to do.
I have to disagree a bit on CFMoto. Im on the hunt for an entry level naked. The 300NK is 3700€ and the 450NK is 5500€. Its quite a jump. You can get the 300NK + all the gear/clothes you need for less total that the 450NK by it self.
I have test riden them imo the price difference is kinda ok. The 450 cfmoto engines are much better than the previous 300/400 engines
Chinese bikes are extremely popular in most latin American countries they literally dominate the market at least for more than half of it, only a few people can afford Japanese or European bikes. Their strategy is clear; they give you more for less money, unfortunately it’s not always the case, 90% of those makers claim to have this or that much horsepower “more than rivals” like the cfmoto 250nk claims to have 27.5HP while being around 1000$ cheaper than rivals and still loses to a Suzuki gixxer 250 or KTM duke 250.
Same thing with the 300NK, the only one that I’ve heard it’s good enough it’s the 450sr claims to be better than a ninja 400 and stuff but honestly I dont trust must reviewers some colombian dude was given a motorcycle for free for doing a video showing off the 250sr so I dont know about it, I still don’t trust Chinese makers, so far they proven to not be as good as they claim and have to rely on paid reviews so I would stick to Japanese bikes if I were you
the fact that you choose the V85TT means you dont get what Guzzi is about. The worst is the Stelvio. And it’s not the worst because its a bad bike. Its the worst because it’s not a Guzzi. Comparing Guzzis with GS… no way….
I had a v-star 250 and loved it. But you can definitely outgrow that motorcycle very quickly.
As someone who picked up a new old stock 2017 VStar 250 in May, respectfully, you don't understand the market niche. The VStar 250 is 40 lbs lighter, and has the classic V twin look and sound. The Rebel 300 - while not bad! - is doing something different with the bone line and I don't like it as much. If the VStar didn't exist, I'd settle for a Rebel, but the VStar is a neat bike that has taught me a lot
The BMW R18 is beautiful. To look at. I think it has a place with people who ride the speed limit and do short rides on the weekends. It is truly beautifully made. I see some coming on sale used at great prices with very low miles. The thing is all pistons. This is a used bike you never have to be worried about it being abused. A two wheeled Panzer.
I think I'm just not a big cruiser guy, but I hated riding one when I tested it. For how low the pistons and engine are, it's still oddly topheavy, and I feel like it really lets down the people coming in thinking it might be a return to a classic R bike in terms of both form and function.
When I got back to the dealership, the salesman saw the disappointed look on my face and said "I know what'll perk you up" and handed me the keys to a bumblebee R1250GS. That was way more fun: handled better and had a way more responsive throttle.
I agree. I would NEVER buy or ride one but I think it's a very classy and classic looking bike. Also pretty cheap for a BMW.
I love my CF Moto 300NK I have put over 3900 miles on it as of yesterday.
ok bro.
Hey I got one too and love it as well!
Tho I will get something bigger from CF soon lol
@@ultimomos5918 Lame, how can you go from guzzi to chinese
@@grtbgf wut? I like my bike lol it runs well, has zero problems and has been perfect to learn on
@@ultimomos5918 I misread your comment, i thought you had a moto guzzi v85 and that you want to buy cf 300nk. Lol i was reading another comment sorry
I don’t know from where Suzuki gets their hate but they are making bikes for a specific audience. Reliable, safe, cheap and still packs a punch even for a starter bike.
My gf is on a vstar 250 and my dad is on an r18
And the vstar isn't straight out of 1991!
It's 1983 :3
Try 1988 (XV250 Virago)... The Virago lineup didn't get the real 'cruiser' styling (teardrop tank, wire wheels, staggered dual exhaust, etc) until 1984. '81-3 was more Euro style with some Japanese flair, and only in 750/ 920 models. The Yamaha/ Guzzi dealership I worked at sold around 15 of the 250 Viragos in 1990, which was more than we sold of the rest of the lineup combined! Of course that was amidst a recession with absolutely horrid MC sales all across the region that eventually shuttered that store by Labor Day... That said, they were great little bikes, unintimidating for beginner riders, and one of the few bikes I've ever seen set up for a 'little person' to ride safely (and I met up with him while cross-country touring on it!) without external aids.
@@MadMaxxMoto you got me
When it comes to Guzzi, I still find the V100/Stelvio is way worse than the V85TT, but that's just my Opinion as a rider and mechanic ;)
I work as a salesman at a moto dealership and one of the brands we carry is BMW. I can confirm the R18 is their worst bike, and despite having a boxer engine its center of gravity is somehow still way higher than the Indian baggers sitting across from them. When Neanderthal bagger guys coming in looking for the heaviest touring bike (yeah, that’s a thing) I show them the R18 baggers/transcontinental’s party trick. I can jump onto the right floorboard without it coming off the side stand.
the thing is there are two different versions of the GSX250R, one which is a liquid-cooled parallel twin and another which is an air-cooled single, whcih strangely enough makes slightly more horsepower, and revs higher than the twin. It's usually referred to as the Gixxer 250 SF(no kidding, that's the actual name) and although it is still less exciting than what one would generally expect a 250 to be, it is still a far better proposition as a sports-bike than the GSX250R parallel twin, which seems to be best suited to applications like the V-Strom 250. (and funnily enough, the one being shown in the video is in fact the single cylinder Gixxer 250)
Exactly what I was gonna say. Here in India the gixxer 250 SF costs around INR 250,000 ( around US $ 3000). Which makes it a decent beginner bike here.
Correction- it has an oil cooled engine. Not air cooled
Both are pale in comparison to GSX-R150, which theoretically could produce 31hp if the displacement enlarged to 250cc. Or it could be more, if we consider among 150cc bikes they produce the most power per displacement. The only reason GSXR250 still appealing is only in the looks department, because to be honest both GSXR150 and Gixxer SF250 doesn't really looks like the baby version of original Gixxer.
@@z4520ft HP per displacement is a meme. You have to account strokes, compression and RPM into them. the 150cc revs insanely high (Yamaha R15s and Honda CBR150Rs are no different) and that's where the horsepower comes from. The 250cc class area always tuned to be tame and long-lasting engines.
@@ZeroXSEED you must be from India if you think R15 and CBR150R revs 'insanely high'. Please check out Suzuki GSXR 150, it produces 19Hp @ 10,500RPM and revs up to 12,000RPM. And it produces that power from 147cc single cylinder mill compared to Yamaha R15's 155cc VVT. Now, that what I would call as insane and speaks volume why HP per displacement matter.
As for 250cc class, again it seems you're only looking at Indian market as in south east Asia, CBR 250RR is very common rivaling Ninja ZX25R. Both can revs up more than 13,000RPM, and obviously not tame if they are coming with riding modes.
So coming back to HP per displacement, it's a way to gauge how well the engine are built and their characteristics so it's certainly can't be dismissed easily as meme. Unlike car, bikes can have many engine configurations within the same displacement so if you have enough experience with bikes, you'll have some idea how the engine are built just by looking at their HP per displacement.
For example, bike that produces higher HP compared to the rest in the same displacement class most likely to have oversquare engine (eg. CBR250RR) while bike that have more torque to be undersquare (eg. GSXR250). This oversquare/undersquare also will determine how high they can revs as oversquare engine with short stroke will be able to achieve higher RPM compared to engine that has longer stroke. Also less common in smaller displacement is cylinder counts, but obviously 4 cylinder engine with smaller and lighter piston will be able to revs higher compared to 2 cylinder and 1 cylinder. Also for the same piston size reason, engine with larger displacement but same piston count eg. one cylinder will have lower revs compared to smaller displacement (eg. Duke 690 vs Duke 200) due to internal piston speed limit.
@@z4520ft 12000 RPM is insanely high for a single cylinder engine.
Come on mate, no need to go full nerd. In fairness I should specify I'm talking about 250cc singles. Especially without water cooling.
(Oil cooled engines have one weakness: the heat degrades oil service life)
Buy the V Star Yam! That would make some great content!
I agree. But even if Yam tries the Vstar 250, he will rev the sh*t out of a poor bike, then saying that it does not move... If he tries to CRUISE on it, 40-50 mph around some free roads, it would make a sense
If you like a honda rebel 500 for a beginner bike then there is some up and coming competition from cfmoto. Cfmoto 450 cl-c has been out for a few years in foreign markets. It is being introduced in USA in the 2025 lineup. It has a few less hp than the rebel 500 but it makes up for it with tech and it drops the chain to the belt for a quieter and smoother cruiser experience. It has the same motor as the cfmoto 450ss. 2 of the things i really like about the 450 cl-c is the color option and it has a 3.5 TFT that shows rpms. The cost is very reasonable at 5,799 MSRP. The Honda Rebel 500 is still stuck using a LCD with no rpms. The color combination is not very good. and they want to charge you Base MSRP $6,999.
Kinda weird that you said that the Ducati Multistarda V4 is the worst bike considering that it is their number one selling bike. I thought that the Ducati Streetfighter V4 Lamborghini edition with it's $68,000 to $83,000 price tag would be the worst bike. 🤔
FACT: Snakes can predict Earthquakes.
😂 love the comments that come out of nowhere!
You are 1000% correct on the Vstar 250. My wife bought one right after she got her endorsement, and after 2 trips on it, was asking me to find her a bike with better power and brakes. Kinda crazy that she found a 2002 ROADStar, yes a 1600, and was immediately more comfortable riding with brakes that work, a bike that pulled away from lights with easy and quite simply handled much better....
I'm just glad that the DR650 was able to avoid your scrutiny.
The V-star 250 is smoother than any other single or parallel. Yammie needs to brush up that beginners don’t want to feel like their engine is rattling apart.
I really like the V-Twin 250 in mine. Now when I get the chrome side mounts installed with customized pipe from the back cylinder to the upper primary...
V-Star 250 is perfect for a beginner.
Or shorter folks...or us older folks that missed riding while raising a family. Great retirement bike for me!
Vstar 250 is a great little bike, had mine for 2 years now love it will upgrade soon but i will keep it as a second bike, little legend it is.
I own a v star 250 and i love it, its not a fast bike or a good bike but its a fun bike😂
The reason why Yammie Noob is wrong about the CBR500R is that Honda made it for people who want a commuter, chill bike that is a sports bike in looks only.
Just look at all his complaints about it. Its 40 lbs heavier than the competition, it has a boring gearbox, no clip ons, upright seating position. Lolz I mean...its obvious isnt it?
Great list! I had the suzuki gxr250 a years ago. A great bike, but it hasnt changed a bit since the first version. Today it feels old. Reliable but old.
Always nice to see MV show up
Indian Roadmaster Elite is gonna be my next bike. By the time you factor in the premium audio, the unique wheels, the premium adaptive LED headlight, the technology, and the passanger arm rests, youre basically getting the most beautiful paint in the motorcycle industry for free.
The Honda Goldwing is $10,000 less sure. But its 100lbs shy in max payload, significantly less storage space. Has worse navigation technology, Torque is way less, and the Goldwing has a 160 watt 4 speaker system compared to the Indians 12 Speaker 600 watt system. And the Goldwing doesnt have a cooling seat. Amd every goldwing looks generic and the same.
Theres no contest here. The roadmaster elite competes with Harleys $20,000 more than itself.
I have the Honda '19 CB500X & I love that 471 cc engine it's fast enough to have fun but doesn't really get you in as much trouble as a big bike VERY enjoyable to ride. I keep up with my buddies on bigger bikes they ride Harleys, V-stroms NEVER had a prob keeping up with them
I'd pick the V-star 250 over any modern cruiser right now. Its definitely barebone, but thats the fun of it. It got character!
I just got my first bike Royal enfield classic 500 (used). Will upgrade in a year or two after some experience.
,...And 3 years later you will wish you still had it and you'll waste time and money looking for another one,trust me.
@@bruceclark5627 i will not be selling it even when I get another bike. I love it and my 5 year old son loves it as well.
@@bruceclark5627 i will not be selling it even when I get another bike. I love it and my 5 year old son loves it as well.
@michaelmurdock4607 that's exactly what I did. Kept my Tribute black (love it) and bought a Himalayan 450 👍
It didn't beat up on a 3rd Gen Hayabusa. It just beat up on a couple dudes who don't know how to ride a Busa. I'll put $1,000 on a race between me on a Gen 3 Busa and Yammie on that MV Augusta. Calling you out Yammie! 隼
I'm not sure why you'd beat up the Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak when it won rhe Pikes Peak Hillclimb Challenge in 2012 and 2018. It's not a burgeoning refrigerator, as you put it, at all. It's got exceptional handling and power in a more upright position with less knee bend. It's absolutely amazing to ride so I don't see how your comment has any relevance to the characteristics of the bike at all. As a sportbike guy, I would have thought you would have acknowledged it's high performance aspects.
Idk about 300nk from cfmoto. I have no problems with the bike. It's tune, i have full exhaust SC Project system, upgraded air filter making about 25ft pounds of torque. So how is this bike a failure from cfmoto?
He doesn`t like Chinese bikes that`s all
He said worst in the lineup. In the US, because we don't have the same licensing restrictions, the price difference between the 300 and 400 is small enough that the 300 seems out of place.
The V4 may be the engine that vibrates the least because the 1200 L2 vibrates like a jackhammer
I had a Guzzi V85TT and it was a great bike! Handled great, very good suspension, easy to work on. The only reason I got rid of it was because I wanted more power. I broke my own rule of "nothing under 1000cc".
I rented a vstar 250 to ride around hokkaido for 4-5 days and it was great fun. I hadn't ridden for a while it was a joy just cruising through the hills and from town to town going to my next destination. Obviously not for everyone but I can't hate.
I agree with you totally. As far as the bigger bikes go? Always go with a gold wing and you’ll be glad you did!
Thank you, Kawasaki. By making the E1, the 650s can all hide in the background while the E1 takes the punches.
The triumph one was a good one, I was unsure what you would choose.
I somewhat disagree with the Royal Enfield choice.
The carbied Himalayan offered something that no other manufacturer was offering: a cheap and cheerful, reliable and simple adventure bike.
Now they've "updated/upgraded" it and the price has increased, it fits in virtually the same category as all other light/midweight adventure/scrambler bikes.
As far as reliability/build quality goes:
If I have to pay the same money, I'm buying a 400 Triumph or Japanese any day of the week.
Just bought a 2000' XV 250 and for a second bike it does the job pretty well in brazilian roads and streets.. but agree that selling a carburated bike in 2024 is kinda wicked.
I have a 2013 Ultra Limited, love it, no way I’ll upgrade because of the price. My bike is simple, comfortable and meets my touring needs.
My theory on why each exists:
1. Vstar 250: these are so very common at the MSF courses, and that makes sense. An easy to ride, cheap, 250cc bike without a lot of plastic bits to break when it gets dropped 30 times in a month. I doubt Yamaha expect many sales to folks other than the beginner course instructors.
2. Kawasaki E1: well, they are trying just about every lane of motorcycle technology, so makes sense they'd have an all-electric, but this is more a work in progress or for enthusiasts.
3. GSXR 250: same reason as 1, except for those who want a sport bike. Might also be helpful in places with strict motorcycle displacement laws. I've seen a tiny person hit very nearly 100mph on one of these too.
4. Honda CBR 500R. Nothing wrong with this bike. Sometimes you want something in between the other displacements. Also, what's with the extra R's? I do agree it feels heavy.
5. Ducati Multistrada V4: actually, I might agree on this one. The one thing it has going for it compared to the standard Multistrada is that it doesn't have that weird feeling of the v--excuse me, l--twin. The L twin Multistrada was better otherwise.
6,7,8,9,10: i don't have enough experience with these brands to comment.
11: BMW R18: ah, this is where I certainly can say something. A lot of folks don't like the R18, and usually the complain is styling. I can agree it's polarizing, but I sorta like the visual concept that you look at it and see....ENGINE. I feel like that's what one should see when they see a bike. It also rides like it too. But yeah, it doesn't sell well.
The rest of the brands I can't comment on for the most part, except Harley. I sorta want to say they are all bad, but that ain't quite true. I think that new sport glide is a good move for them, as is the new engine family. I can also respect their attempt at an electric bike. They still sell 3 models of electric, so probably 1 of those should take this position...
After test riding the R18 (for a potential sidecar project) it was so bad I would not even insult a sidecar by mounting it onto an R18
The V Star 250 is a V-Twin with 21HP. It's charm is the low-end torque in this bike that some refer to as a sport Cruiser. Not to be confused with a sport bike. It is the same size as a mid-80's Sportster. Same over-all style too. But 326lbs vs 583lbs for the Sportster. And since you hate cruisers and only like some multi-hundred horsepower, 2-wheeled GRX, you should stop with the put-downs. I like your videos, but this is always going to be a sticky point. We are not all trying to be Craig Breedlove on a road course. And I can lean my '18 Star 250 over pretty far. Learned that from watching King Kenny invent back in the 70's. Some things you just can't help doing.
Least whiney cruiser rider.
You are amazing I just subscribed
YAM!!! Im still rocovering from the roast you gave in 21 on my cbr500r....i can't get any DARKER!!!!!!
good news im at 24,600mi now with a vortex chain/ sprocket set up of 14/43.
Chopping up my 600 and 1k buddiies in the twisties.
Love this bike!!! I have enjoyed your content for quite sometime!!
Wow this is fresh
Virago (V-star) 250 is from 88, not 1991. It is good motorcycle with personality exceeding 250cc big time!
Ya know, the only thing that gets me is the name. Virago is Hispanic for a mean spirited, loud-mouth woman. What we now call a " Karen"! Idk? Maybe the Japanese read that as, " spirited"?
@@unionrdr Virago is the Witch I guess. Also V is a engine layout
@@evilkabab according to the dictionary, it means as I described in Hispanic language it came from. And yeah, I know what a V-twin is structurally.
It’s not what you ride, it’s that you ride! Wheels down and stay safe.
Agree with your assessment of the Multistrada. I went with a DesertX back in May of 2023 (with the full decat Termi race exhaust and EVO tune, over 120 hp). It is currently at Ducati for the DESMO service.
Yeah, over 18k miles in 16 months.
The bike has been flawless.
Oh, and CF Moto NK? That sounds like a bike Curly would ride.....Nuk, nuk, nuk.
Check the air pressure every week. I wish I had known that earlier. It's been a month since I last filled them up and they had dropped about 6 lbs or more. Before that I had run them down really low after 2 months of riding and not checking. I'll be on top of that way better now. Thanks.
I would ride the v250. I have a meteor 350 and it gets 70 mpg. Great for 27 mile stretches back road to work. Which is what most riders do on a given day. Plus light weight
Not a BMW loyalist but it's so much easier to work on and well made than my Kawasaki was. I didn't how fun doing your own maintenance was until I switched. Wish more people talked about that when reviewing motorcycles
God I love Those Triumph Bonnevilles (and variants) and the Scramblers look so damn nice
16:18 For as far as I know the 411 platform is discontinued. So not really fair to mention them in this October 2024 video. 😀Those 450's are great! So much more powerful than the 411's.
I own a 2007 virago 250. Very dependable and a joy to ride.
The Yamaha XSR looks like something a small child cobbled together from parts he found in a trash bin. It is NOT "retro" in any way. The Triumph Speed Twin IS retro. For that matter almost EVERY Yamaha is horrible to look at now. Great bikes, kindergarten styling. It is VERY unfortunate that Yammie is such a brand snob and thinks horsepower is the only measure of a good bike.
The Speed Twin isn't retro. Its just OLD. Pretty much like all Triumphs. Do any of them look like they were made THIS century?
What's wrong with the Tuono 660? I think it's a great bike in its class.
I understand that Husqvarna doesn't make many road bikes, but I have a Norden Expedition myself and I have to be honest, I think it's a great bike. I've also ridden the new Svartpillen and I really thought they were a disappointment...
One guy in my MSF class did the course on an R18, which was pretty funny.
I hope You could try motorcycles from india. Bajaj and Hero. They make low -mid cc bikes . They are very popular because they offer more tech, hp and cost less than japanese brands.
Guzzi v85 tt is beautiful. I love the looks. Retro enduro.
I think the multistrada v4 makes the most sense in pikes peak trim
It deserves to be an adventure touring bike that is unapologetically road biased
The R 18 is honestly a great bike...it's just simply that the HD owners are pretty much fully devolved in their thinking when it comes to good touring/cruising bikes. However their contempt for foreign bikes allowed me to get my R 18 B for a steal of a price with all of the features of HD and more.
Sliding in the Diddy joke, my man! haha
I rented a Honda CB500F last year while my Yamaha MT-07 was in the shop; it is basically a Honda CBR500 minus the fairing. Although the materials and fit and finish were superior to all of the Yamahas I have owned over 40 years, I was not impressed as it weighed more than my MT-07 and was no faster than my daughter’s Yamaha YZF-R3, which felt much more lively than the Honda.
Here in italy ktm is doing a heavy discount campaign on all the bikes and right now a 790 duke costs as much as a mt07 so right now is probably the best a2/middleweight bike here
Poor Diddy catching strays for a $50k Harley 😂💔
The beauty of a BMW R-19 doesn't make sense to a sport rider. It does everything a cruiser rider needs it to do. It's reliable, easy to work on and looks like a work of art.
Nice honest review
a friend of. mine had a v-star 250. years ago. we called it the piglet.
For the CF Moto you've got to consider that for some markets like South America and Asia 300cc is a lot of power and still affordable.
i like that cfmoto makes the 300cc bikes.. cause in my country we have a 3 tier licensing system.. 50-125cc , 125-300 , 300+
Vstar 250 is a great bike. Definitely doesn't deserve that hate. It's a simple pure machine that won't let you down, and on the off chance it does it's incredibly simple to work on, air cooled carbureted engine.
A 250 v-twin ? I asked the Kawasaki dealership about the electric sales a month ago , he said they haven't sold A SINGLE ONE.... a lot of these bikes are just due to their price and better choices are out there. The cbr500r @ 4,500 USD winner .... The cbr500r more than a new mt-07, used gsxs s750, used mt-09, xsr.... Hahaha
Can't hate the vstar for its price tag, I think it's almost solely for MSF. But IMO the FJR needs some updates...
I rode a v-star 250 for my MSF it’s a good little put around town bike