SHALAMAR! Stankin Rumors and Gossip! WHEW! - OLD HOLLYWOOD SCANDALS!🫤🫤🫤

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  • @AshleySaysSo20
    @AshleySaysSo20  ปีที่แล้ว +384

    Thank you ALL for the BIRTHDAY WISHES! 👑👑

  • @aprilhouston9255
    @aprilhouston9255 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    Shalamar is one of my favorite groups from back in the day. Jodi Watley blew up when she went solo.

    • @1eaglefan960
      @1eaglefan960 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Her music is still good explanation to it matter fact after this video I'm going to listen to some of her music!

    • @HeardYa
      @HeardYa ปีที่แล้ว +28

      *I'm Looking for a New Love* was my JAM!🎶

    • @rethablair6902
      @rethablair6902 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      💗TOTALLY AGREE💗

    • @InglewoodsFinest71
      @InglewoodsFinest71 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miss Jody Watley will always be the 👸🏾this video is the usual pervasive messy degrading of black folks

    • @HeardYa
      @HeardYa ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Vashon Mitchell Miss Ashley has no dog in this fight. She just formed a narrative based on her research WITH a disclaimer. How did she degrade anyone? Provide examples.

  • @TASconfidential
    @TASconfidential ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Jody definitely got the last laugh…. They treated her like shit and she ended up being a bigger star than BOTH of them put together!!! HA!!!

    • @kayshera8872
      @kayshera8872 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      So true! I always felt that the universe compensated her for all the disrespect she received from the two men.

    • @seanpowell1661
      @seanpowell1661 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      So true! Karma is REAL

    • @seanpowell1661
      @seanpowell1661 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ​@@kayshera8872and the emotional abuse from Dick Griffey! He was pissed when Jody's first album went PLATINUM! 😂

    • @angelamorales4050
      @angelamorales4050 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes I didn't know she was in that group I just know her solo career

    • @louisegross3886
      @louisegross3886 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

  • @sweetpidi
    @sweetpidi ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Jody Watley is an icon! She does not get her flowers! The girls took her style and sound. And we know who those girls were... there is only one who has always mentioned her and that was Selena!

    • @TeeCee1
      @TeeCee1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I totally agree! I remember Jodi was the first woman I saw with a tattoo on her arm... I thought she was too cool for school! 😍🥰💜

    • @MaddieBaddie1.
      @MaddieBaddie1. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Who’s the girls who took her style and sound ??

    • @BlackQueen-ys2hf
      @BlackQueen-ys2hf ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MaddieBaddie1.it’s giving Paula Abdul ? 😂😂

    • @spongebob03
      @spongebob03 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BlackQueen-ys2hfI only know one song by Jody. Don’t know a video or her style, back then. But when I read the original comment, I immediately thought… Paula! 😂

    • @karenpenrice7018
      @karenpenrice7018 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They did indeed, they watched her every move.

  • @eliseshaw6993
    @eliseshaw6993 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Michael Jackson never said he started the moon walk, he always gave credit to the guys in California (LA) and Jeffrey Daniel for teaching it to him.😊😊😊

    • @levallewis5626
      @levallewis5626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Plus he also said he just made it better

  • @adrina911
    @adrina911 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    When she said “The women was straight beating Jeffery down to the ground to the ground!” I fell out! Something went down because Jody will not come back and tour with that group. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @geminilove8323
      @geminilove8323 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Right! Something most definitely happens because she’s very adamant about not reuniting, she absolutely refuses to do it.

    • @selenat264
      @selenat264 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Jody said that she was disrespected so deeply that she will NEVER get back with Shalimar...never. She said she dint need them and that she is good. This was from an interview either last year or 2021.

    • @getreadynow647
      @getreadynow647 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Rumor has it that Howard got touchy with her while under the influence and she never felt right to be around him after that. Howard says he didn't remember it so that was the end of that conversation. I saw it on Unsung

    • @adrina911
      @adrina911 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@getreadynow647 oh okay I knew it was something serious.

    • @steaveadams7937
      @steaveadams7937 ปีที่แล้ว

      She let Howard FUCK but she was still dating Jeffrey and that's when they both were telling her she should do porn like her sister Midori 😊😊😊😊😊😊🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😜😜😜

  • @beyourself2444
    @beyourself2444 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Howard Hewitt was so talented, his voice with Jodi’s made that group iconic, it’s still my favourite dance band of all time.

    • @tiah6386
      @tiah6386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what you said :)

  • @tracyjacksonjackson4221
    @tracyjacksonjackson4221 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I remember Shalimar. I remember Jody Whatley blowing up and I remember Howard's solo career. Looks like Jody gets the last laugh. She out did both the guys. To this day Jody refuses to perform with these men. I feel that her treatment was far worse than anything we'll ever know.

    • @spicyhot2552
      @spicyhot2552 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's true ...Jody said her and Howard would argue nose to nose ..and yes Jody went solo and she blew up ...Jody's best revenge was her success 👍🏼

  • @epoh6776
    @epoh6776 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I’ve seen Shalamar many times in concert. They have a great performance and each member brought something so special to the group. I was mesmerized with them as a teenager and being a singer myself, I took notes. I applaud Jody for knowing her worth and leaving. She’s a Queen ❤ Jeffrey has as very nice accent now and appears to be in a state of peace and happiness. Howard apologized for his part in the mistreatment of Jody and I’m glad but I wish he knew her worth then.

    • @pattylog100
      @pattylog100 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sometimes thing are done to you that are so bad that you can forgive but not forget 😂it sounds like they did her so wrong and the physical abuse; what kind of men are Howard Hewitt and Jeffrey Daniels that they would hit women! Jody you showed them that you could sing and even won Grammys! Go lady! So proud of you!! Luv you ❤❤ it was great to hear that Howard did apologize.

    • @queenreg7
      @queenreg7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Howard was apparently a terror. Head too blown up.

  • @thekat677
    @thekat677 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    as a teen i tried to dress like Jody Watley to me she was just the IT female at the time. Thanks for this video Happy Birthday!!!

    • @kayshawnsimmons5585
      @kayshawnsimmons5585 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jody is the Blueprint to Madonna Janet Jackson Paula Abdul and many more

  • @Meshagurl28
    @Meshagurl28 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've always felt that Howard has always been low key salty that Jody never accepted any advances from him which could be another reason for why he treated her the way he did

    • @foxxyldyfrca
      @foxxyldyfrca 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. She doesn't mess w/ him to this day!! I believe he did try to, or actually did assult her!

  • @ladyg3645
    @ladyg3645 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I heard Jeffery Daniels say in an interview that Michael Jackson called him and asked him to teach him the Back Slide and he renamed it Moon Walk. So he didn't steal it.

  • @joshuamcdowell9745
    @joshuamcdowell9745 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Stephanie said on The Breakfast Club that she and Jeffrey would fight a lot during their marriage. Stephanie wasn't no punk tho. She is from Brooklyn. She also said that she and Jody got into it as well.
    I'm sure Howard was mad as hell when Jody went solo and blew up. She had way more success as an solo artist than she did as a member of the group. She definitely got the last laugh. Her solo career was more successful than Howard's solo career. Howard's light skin and curly hair wasn't enough.

    • @Nanbebe7
      @Nanbebe7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I love Stephanie Mills she said she and Jeffrey are still cool. I believe Jeffrey was still messing with Jody and used Stephanie to make her jealous 😂

    • @kingshaw1079
      @kingshaw1079 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard Jeffrey used to beat on Stephanie

  • @carolesposto9802
    @carolesposto9802 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Ashley your story telling skills are above anyone I ever heard. The blue blouse looks beautiful on you. Your hair makeup and nails are so put together

    • @patsylucas5922
      @patsylucas5922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I 💯 agree! Looking Good my SISTA ❤️🙏 You absolutely bring the good, bad and the mess with all of your content. Keep up the GOOD WORK!!! Love your channel.

  • @cmclayton1986
    @cmclayton1986 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Jody also HATED A night to remember video. She went into detail about it once. It was pretty funny.

  • @MichaelCDavis1
    @MichaelCDavis1 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Jody stays booking a stage and singing live. Howard, not so much. Jeff and Howard got sued because they tried to use her image to book concerts overseas. Jody don't play that.

    • @kingshaw1079
      @kingshaw1079 ปีที่แล้ว

      They actually hired a few different girls while on tour to take Jody's place if that's what you call it

  • @denisen118
    @denisen118 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Happy Birthday Ashley. Thanks for the video. Shalimar was one of my favorite groups in the 80s. Howard is a great lead singer, but no one talks about Jody's value to the group. I love her vocals on all their hits.

  • @themagicians1122
    @themagicians1122 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I love Howard Hewitt.
    My brother in law hired him as A surprise to sing at bro& sis in laws WEDDING
    HE POPPED OUT SINGING
    THIS IS FOR THE LOVER IN YOU
    I MEAN IT WAS
    BEAUTTTTTIFUL
    BEAUTIFUL

    • @Brittany-tg7cd
      @Brittany-tg7cd ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That’s my FAVORITE SONG!!!!!!! I would’ve passed Tf Out!!!!

    • @lolawinewinelola
      @lolawinewinelola ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Brittany-tg7cd me too❤

    • @maxforever26
      @maxforever26 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I am surprised Ashley did not mention this in the video. But for those of us who were around back then that song was an absolute CLASSIC and really put them on the map!!!

    • @MsDezB1
      @MsDezB1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I KNOW that was a beautiful wedding! That song...honeyyyyyyyyyyy!!! I was never a fan of slow songs. I love upbeat, dance numbers. But, This Is For The Lover In You was and always will be my jam! I was a young'un when it came out and I kept asking my mama, "mommy, do you like this record?", trying to get her to buy it, lol. She liked it but I guess not enough to buy it, lol.

    • @mcadoo611
      @mcadoo611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omg 😱! I would have loved Howard Hewett suprising me on my wedding day! What did the attendees say? What did the bride do? Was he expensive to hire? Thanks for sharing ♥️🙏🏽

  • @Agbabee
    @Agbabee ปีที่แล้ว +23

    MJ has always given Jeffrey credit for teaching him the backslide/moonwalk. There is an interview with LaToya who talked about Jeffrey teaching Michael the moonwalk.

  • @demetriuskennard310
    @demetriuskennard310 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Michael has always said he got the moonwalk from other inspirations including Jeffery Daniel but the moonwalk has been done since the 40s tap dancers have done it it just wasn't called the moonwalk he gave it the name but not the actual dance

    • @joy2theworld488
      @joy2theworld488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok now lol

    • @louisegross3886
      @louisegross3886 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok I watched a a honeymooners episode if y'all know the honeymooners with Jackie Gleason the ed Norton character art Carney did a dance and did the dance when he stood on his toes I'm thinking that's where Michael Jackson got that from Mike liked his old schools I just always thought that just a thought as for the moon walk in calling that Michael all the the way the original that's just how it is

    • @louisegross3886
      @louisegross3886 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow never heard that story

    • @Botopdawg
      @Botopdawg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I could never figure out why people gave him all the credit, I seen many people do it better and some of them were not professional dancers. I have seen the old tap dancers do it on film. I saw it done by someone in my brothers dance troop back in 83. Watch the movie Breakin' from 84 and see Michael "Boogaloo Shrimp" Chambers literally float.

    • @Botopdawg
      @Botopdawg ปีที่แล้ว

      BTW, Boogaloo Shrimp did it in tennis shoes on a sidewalk, not with slick bottom shoes on a stage.

  • @shernicafields2339
    @shernicafields2339 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Jodi still don’t mess with them, she don’t even want to be on the same room. She didn’t respond to Howard’s apology he tried 🤣🤣

  • @Peppermentality
    @Peppermentality ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You wrong for having Big Bird slid in like that. LoL!!! I loved that part. I played it over and over. I was laughing forever!!!

  • @j.ahayward7245
    @j.ahayward7245 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jody went on and had a great career as a solo artist.So she proved Mr.Griffey wrong.Went on to win a Grammy for Looking For A New Love in 1988.

  • @KEVINTMOORE
    @KEVINTMOORE ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Ashely I’ve seen many old Hollywood tales channel but yours is by far the BEST. You know how to make these lil “Scoop Headed” people stories come alive. Good job babygirl

  • @rjs1602
    @rjs1602 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I saw Jody in concert a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised how entertaining she was AND I believe she sang a couple of Shalamar songs🤔 Howard Hewett's Unsung is very interesting... he's been a trip from a very young age😏

  • @gmst236
    @gmst236 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Shalamar was the bomb back in the day! At our wedding, my ex-husband and I danced to "This Ring" at the wedding reception, wow, what memories!

    • @aclassy1119
      @aclassy1119 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      For the lover in you

  • @RY-os9vw
    @RY-os9vw ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Not Big Bird skating by with his mouth open! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That part was too funny!

    • @kayshawnsimmons5585
      @kayshawnsimmons5585 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hollered😹😹😹😹😹🤦🏾‍♀️❤️

  • @ericahenderson7093
    @ericahenderson7093 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jody Watley was the blueprint for all the girl groups and solo act she had a very eclectic way of dressing with boots pointy shoes dresses with leggings high top hats cut off finger gloves and everybody bit her style from Cyndi Lauper on Down the Line

  • @kdiva2780
    @kdiva2780 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Chile, Howard Hewett can sing but his violent behavior is well documented ( I’m Gen X so I remember from the Right On magazines lol). Baby Jody was THAT girl when she went solo. She was giving Janet a run for her money! Also, You left out the fact that Jody was married to Andre Cymone, a producer of some of her best music and the childhood friend/ bass guitarist with Prince before the Revolution.

    • @lynej2011
      @lynej2011 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Andre Cymone is still FOINE.😍

    • @Dablkwid0w2008
      @Dablkwid0w2008 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@lynej2011 Andre Cymone was fine as f__k

    • @ndeeyah88
      @ndeeyah88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Y’all remember Howard’s stint on RHOA and his temper then 😬

    • @rheeryder2524
      @rheeryder2524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@ndeeyah88 Huh? RHOA? Never saw him on there.

    • @joshuamcdowell9745
      @joshuamcdowell9745 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ndeeyah88 That wasn't him. That was Christopher Williams.

  • @ashantidouglass9014
    @ashantidouglass9014 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    1ST HEA CHILE!!!! Shalamar is iconic, especially for us here in Chicago!!! They are TRULY one of a kind!!

  • @lindareed9801
    @lindareed9801 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jodi was a wonderful customer of mine at my job. She was always so sweet and kind. I was so shocked when I found out Howard was married to my Junior High School classmate, Rainy.

  • @Hai_Lello
    @Hai_Lello ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I used to want them to get back together soooo bad, but after this, I completely understand why she shut that wish down in their Unsung video and I don’t blame her. I’ll just keep having concerts in my kitchen and car.

    • @kingshaw1079
      @kingshaw1079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Niggas been moonwalking but he did it a year ago on British TV before Mike did it in 1983 on Motown 25 Daniels did in 1982 twice on British TV but Jeffrey Daniels was the first star to do it on TV

  • @wesleyjackson4290
    @wesleyjackson4290 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    One of my favorite groups!!! Thank you, Ashley 😊😊😊

  • @ursulatroxler7428
    @ursulatroxler7428 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I loved this group back in the day ! Jody is so beautiful and talented I still follow her after all this time

  • @carmelajones2991
    @carmelajones2991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Howard Hewitt Dad was a patient at our Hines VA hospital in Illinois, a long time ago. He used to come and visit him too.

  • @SWOOP_68
    @SWOOP_68 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ashley how about a video on Jeanette Hutchinson of The Emotions and Phillips Baliey of EWF?

  • @vchild
    @vchild ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That group had the hits and the dance moves.

  • @teejthebrownbratt1725
    @teejthebrownbratt1725 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Happy birthday beautiful! Thank you for sharing your gift of storytelling with us! 🙏🏾

  • @eatallnowsavenone4later342
    @eatallnowsavenone4later342 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Moonwalk was out of style when Michael did it, but he introduced it to a new audience, and made it popular again.

    • @myoungmay
      @myoungmay หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I remember it being called 'The Slide.'

  • @gertiegreer6184
    @gertiegreer6184 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jodie is actually touring right now. She was in the Palm Springs,Ca area on November.

  • @deniseoates7147
    @deniseoates7147 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I loved me some Shalamar and they were great for MTV's video lineup. And Jody was such a fashion icon. My favorite song is the Second time around, it takes me back to my happy days when all family members were alive and healthy and we were close growing together in Atlanta, Georgia, and I was in my high school days and there were dance parties at school and friends' houses and most of us kids were not aware of violence. I saw the moon walk done in movies that were during the black and white cinema period, even Fred Astaire had done that back in the day and it was basically from a black dancers. It great to hear that they all did well on their own (which is rare). Thanks for sharing and blessings to you and all in the days to come.

    • @carolynmartin7963
      @carolynmartin7963 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know. I'm from Stone Mountain Ga.

  • @jalesadrakes4759
    @jalesadrakes4759 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    17:25 I mean, Michael never claimed that he invented the moonwalk lol! He said himself that it was taught to him. Plus, there’s a video of a dancer (I forgot his name) doing the move in like the 30s or 40s, so it wasn’t like Jeffery came up with it either.
    On top of that, Jeffery and Michael worked together a few times, there’s a video of them working on the choreography for the Bad video. I highly doubt that one would work with someone who stole something from them.🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @mswoman8059
    @mswoman8059 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This group was very popular back in the disco days. I remember that song called Make that move. It was always on the radio.

  • @dwaynewayne7368
    @dwaynewayne7368 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jody Watley was that chick in the late 80s/Early 90s. She was Probably the only woman that had Janet Jackson on her toes being they were signed to the same label once upon a time . Anyhow, I still Jam Jody songs in 23’. Baby girl def deserve her flowers 💐

  • @LuvGroovesJapan
    @LuvGroovesJapan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ran into Jeffrey Daniels a few years ago at a Soul Train themed club event he was hosting in Osaka. He told me he's been living in both Osaka and London for since the late 80's.

  • @mstate_
    @mstate_ ปีที่แล้ว +36

    They were one of if the THE most toxic abusive groups of all time. I hate they beat on each other, especially intimidating & physically abusing Jody! 🤬

    • @rjs1602
      @rjs1602 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rolls Royce was also a toxic group.

    • @raymondwoodard6779
      @raymondwoodard6779 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rjs1602 Atlantic Starr and Rene and Angela as well. There are also several others.
      I had no idea these groups had such toxic relationships when I was growing up
      listening to them.

    • @rjs1602
      @rjs1602 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Raymond Woodard It's unfortunate...you'll notice in most cases the managers, producers, etc. manipulate, lie and basically pit the group members against each other. They even do it with family groups...really sad😔

    • @renj6531
      @renj6531 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@raymondwoodard6779 money is the root of all evil

    • @raymondwoodard6779
      @raymondwoodard6779 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well money is actually great if you use it wisely. But, it's the lust ang greed for it
      that gets you into trouble. @@renj6531

  • @user-bn8ui9wm3u
    @user-bn8ui9wm3u ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i nearly screamed when i saw this title!! i love shalamar🥲

  • @mynameisstacey6217
    @mynameisstacey6217 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Howard and Jeffrey currently tour with Dick Griffey’s daughter as Shalamar

  • @mechellesonnier5445
    @mechellesonnier5445 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Telling Howard Hewitt that mess is the reason there are memes about Light Skin doing too much, and in the end Jody shut it down when she went solo

  • @wiseowl2323
    @wiseowl2323 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Happy Birthday Ashley!
    My grandma LOVED her some Howard Hewett, so I had to watch this one as soon as it dropped. Great job as always!

  • @monilaninetynine3811
    @monilaninetynine3811 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Stephanie Mills was in love with Michael Jackson. It's funny that she ended up married to Jackson family cousin, Jeffrey Daniel. Stephanie accused Jeffrey of pushing her out of a moving car. Jody allegedly got into fist fights with both Jeffrey and Howard and Jody never forgave Howard for punching her and that other assault you mentioned.
    Edit: Neither Michael nor Jeffrey "created" the moonwalk. It's an old dance and Michael popularized the move.
    P. S., Jody's son is from her marriage to Andre Cymone

    • @faith2xxx
      @faith2xxx ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dancer Bill Bailey created it.

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought I remembered hearing about Cymone (Prince former band mate) being the father of her child.

    • @tias.6675
      @tias.6675 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Jackson never claimed to create the move. He admitted that he did not in his book. Stephanie seems so bitter these days..

    • @stephaniemills_fanpage
      @stephaniemills_fanpage ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, Stephanie was not the one who made those accusations! It was someone who wrote about their divorce. And they alleged that he kicked her out of the car but she denied those rumors.

  • @mzkj1972
    @mzkj1972 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love me some Howard Hewett so handsome and can sang! Also love Jody Watley she had some great songs!

  • @miraclesblessings5044
    @miraclesblessings5044 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jody Whatley has a son with Andre Cymone. He used to work with Babyface and Morris Day and Prince.

  • @mynameisstacey6217
    @mynameisstacey6217 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I love Shalamar so I knew most of the group’s issues. I think most of their turmoil came from their issues with Dick Griffey. Also Jeffrey premiered the backslide on top of the pops which was a British music show.

    • @missfrances137
      @missfrances137 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes, Jeffrey is credited but....Pearl Baileys Big Brother Bill Bailey was famous for inventing this dance move. Don't believe me, well check out CABIN IN THE SKY. That should end ALL rumors. If you look him up you will even see him doing it at my hometown theater, the Apollo. I know what I'm talking about. 💋

  • @Truesong922
    @Truesong922 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I got popcorn and juice listening to the tea ☕️

    • @shevettejackson.
      @shevettejackson. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too

    • @Truesong922
      @Truesong922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I saw u on the randy jackson this his mental health if u look at looking for neverland he did something bad to Michael jackson

  • @chizhellkrignez3875
    @chizhellkrignez3875 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Happy Birthday Ashley, hope your day was filled with love and laughter.

  • @Hai_Lello
    @Hai_Lello ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Backslide/Moonwalk thing is well known. I think Jeff even said it himself in their Unsung episode from years ago.

  • @bookmarker7471
    @bookmarker7471 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Howard Hewitt still has those looks and charm ☺️💕💘🥰😘

    • @Coco-xw3wp
      @Coco-xw3wp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That wasn't Micheal Jackson who stole that move from shalamar it was that Uncle Tom self-haiting buck Quincy Jones who saw Jeffrey doing it and brought it to Micheals attention and told him to perform it... Quincy Jones is whitewashed sell out and he also STOLE LOTS OF SONGS FROM OTHER ARTISTS AND GOT CREDITED FOR IT.....

  • @selenat264
    @selenat264 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That apology Howard gave was backhanded and thirsty. He was a whole mess. And he is the reason Shalamar will never get back together.

  • @RBS_
    @RBS_ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    .... *Oh, WHY didn't Ashley come to me!??* ....I've been following Shalamar, Jody & Howard's careers F-O-R-E-V-E-R, and could give ALL the real Tea about this Group!! ...BUT, some tidbits, and, THAT'S ALL.....(CONT.)
    1. ...In this photo session, for "The Look" Album cover (15:43), Jermaine Stewart said that he hated Howard SO much, that he PURPOSELY set out to make him look bad for the cover...that's not 'style' Howard's wearing, it's GIBBERISH!
    2. Stephanie Mills married Jeffery (allegedly) as a rebound from Michael Jackson, who she dated briefly in 1980 - 1981, and was NEVER gotten over, since....there was some rivalry between Jody & Steph, also, around Fall 1981.....
    3. ...It was the UK, not Asia, that Jeffrey was sent to, to promote Shalamar; he went to Asia after he stayed in the UK, and Jody did also, after the "Dead Giveaway" Video Shoot, Summer 1983...
    4. ...The 'Limousine' blowup was VERY different from Ashley's tale....I would looooooove to tell you, but, Ashley's recount was verrrrrrrrrrrry close. VERY......
    5. Howard cheated so much back then......SOOOOOOOOOOO much, I was hearing stuff as far back, as 1981! (6:14)
    .....VERY fun post, for Shalamar aficionados, like ME.... Thanks, Ash, & HAPPY B-DAY!

  • @angeliafloyd3860
    @angeliafloyd3860 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Jody son's father is Andre Cymone who was famous in Prince band as a guitarist!

  • @MsBzrain59
    @MsBzrain59 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That big bird clip at 6:14 took me OUT! 😭 I absolutely love your story telling!

  • @kbunny74
    @kbunny74 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love these old Hollywood stories

  • @lifeafter2705
    @lifeafter2705 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw an interview where Howard apologized to Jodi

  • @youmakemelaugh222
    @youmakemelaugh222 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was rocking Jody Watley as a kid str8 jamming🎶🎶🎶🎶💕my 10th birthday party was lit🎈

  • @dawnsmart8283
    @dawnsmart8283 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love me some Shalamar!! They had the best hits and harmony. It was Japan and Jeffery Daniel still lives over there. I heard something about some drug scandals with Howard Hewett back in the day but can’t remember exactly what went down allegedly
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY Beautiful 🎉

  • @SandraSealySeawomanBDS
    @SandraSealySeawomanBDS ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shalimar was sooo good but too toxic. Lol Btw it was Jody's solo album that I wore out when it came out - was excellent.
    Actually The Backslide was from Bill Bailey in 1943 but yeah, Jeffrey Daniel brought it back b4 Michael took it to the strastosphere.

  • @TheRetroWoman80
    @TheRetroWoman80 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm telling you this lady always gives a different spin on back stories I already know about. There is always an angle she reaches that other docs don't. Way to go, Ash!

  • @tomekaminorpharmdrph.9908
    @tomekaminorpharmdrph.9908 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Careless Whisper took me out… lol❤❤❤❤❤

  • @facetedperspectives9950
    @facetedperspectives9950 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely LOVE the energy of your storytelling!!! It's captivating and fun to listen to. Thank you😊😊😊😊

  • @AlabamaPowell
    @AlabamaPowell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting to see a picture of Jodi and Howard together. It was my understanding that she never wanted to be in the same room with him.

  • @astrochakbathbodyaromather5984
    @astrochakbathbodyaromather5984 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Whew! This better be correct, because Ms. Jody Watley will get you together, respectfully. She's a sweetheart, but will correct you, respectfully. 😂😂❤

  • @meandmy2cents309
    @meandmy2cents309 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ashley, gurl! I’m at work just hollering at your commentary. You are just too funny! Shalamar was and still one of my favor groups back in the day. And Howard Hewitt , whew chile!! still sounds amazing. His voice is pure soul! Thanks for all the entertaining rumor/tea. I know a few things we’re probably true but just think of how young they all were. Jody was dancing on soul train at 15! I’m really glad to know they all are doing well. ❤

  • @LRomm
    @LRomm ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Happy Birthday, Ashley! Great video, as always! I remember Shalamar because we loved them from the start and thought they would be HUGE, but then there were all the rumors about Jeffrey and Jody. For example, Jeffrey is said to have married Stephanie Mills while still dating Jody. When Jody found out, according to the word on the street, she went all upside Jeffrey's head. It was after that the rumor spread that Jody became involved with Andre Cymone, Prince's former bandmate and best friend. Allegedly, Jeffrey wanted Jody back, and I don't know how true it is but when Stephanie found out, it was said she jumped him and fought him in their car. The rumors were always about Jeffrey fighting girls . . . and losing. He got his a## kicked. I didn't know about Howard, though. For some reason, he stayed out of the most street talk, but we did hear about his blow-up with Jody in Japan because Jody was said to refused to be in "The Look" video, so they brought in a woman who wore a mask during most of the video pretending to be Jody. We were sick to our stomachs when we saw the following picture of the group that featured Howard with two people we didn't know. Allegedly Jermaine Stewart was one of the people who filled in for Jeffrey Daniels until a full-time replacement could be found. No matter what, there will never be another Shalamar. The Sound of Los Angeles Records (SOLAR) only knew they had struck gold with that group when it was too late. Sad because they would have been bigger than Michael Jackson and Prince combined. Thanks again Ashley for a great video.[]

  • @nadiluvmuzik1284
    @nadiluvmuzik1284 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY ASHLEY!!! Have a great day and keep those Hollywood Scandals coming!!

  • @seanpowell1661
    @seanpowell1661 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ashley, THANK ,THANK ,THANK YOU for hearing my request to do a video on Shalamar. You shouldn't feel bad about what you said in the middle of this video about Howard Hewett. You were right ! Him and Dick Griffey were wrong for how they treated Jody Watley during the early 80s. That's why she ended up being the most successful of Shalamar. KARMA IS VERY REAL! lol. Jody even said that after she released her first album that, Griffey cornered her at a party in the late 80s and said "you think you're so smart huh Watley"??? He was so mad at her success as a solo artist that, he even sued her because, Jody "allegedly" breach her contract when she left the group in 1983. Jody said she had to give him 25 percent of the money she made off of her 1987 debut album. Smh.
    I surprised you didn't mention the 1996 reunion that Babyface did with Howard, Jody and Jeffrey when he did an update version of "For The Lover In You". There's a video of them performing together (right here on TH-cam lol) where Jody isn't giving Howard ANY attention during the performance. Lol.
    I think it finally hit Howard years later about how he treated her. Which is why he apologize last year. I hope she accepted it and they can get together and do a REAL Shalamar reunion. Either way, great video!!! 👍
    Since you did one on Moms Mabley, can you do one on Fats Waller? Thanks beautiful!!!

  • @MissTangy
    @MissTangy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you do the Stylistics please? And Delfonic?

    • @megaoldskool76
      @megaoldskool76 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Old school….. I love it 😃

    • @MissTangy
      @MissTangy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@megaoldskool76 Chile I'm dying to know the tea on them. They must have some skeletons in they closet.

  • @mydu648
    @mydu648 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Happy birthday Ashley! SN: according to Smokey Robinsons most recent interview with vlad tv, neither one of them invented the moonwalk but it was the Nicholas Brothers in the 1940’s. One of the brothers was the choreographer in the 5 heartbeats if I’m not mistaken but I could be wrong lol

    • @lolawinewinelola
      @lolawinewinelola ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was

    • @fedoramcclaren4294
      @fedoramcclaren4294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed!!!

    • @kdiva2780
      @kdiva2780 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep. There is footage of them performing it also.

    • @clearfamily7488
      @clearfamily7488 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I seen James Brown moon walking on one of his old videos. James Brown killed that moon walking back in the day

  • @deneencollins9060
    @deneencollins9060 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you for this video. I often wondered what happened to the three of them. I knew Howard had gotten the big head and things start falling apart. I didn't know who Jody had a child by because it was never said. I thank the trio for the nice music and sharing spart of their life with us at a young age back then.

    • @mynameisstacey6217
      @mynameisstacey6217 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jody also has a child with Andre Cymone who produced some of her songs for her solo career.

    • @lisahickman3022
      @lisahickman3022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jody was also with Leon Sylvers.

    • @mynameisstacey6217
      @mynameisstacey6217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lisahickman3022 yeah Ashley mentioned that in the video

    • @raymondwoodard6779
      @raymondwoodard6779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mynameisstacey6217 Leon had a child with Jody, but married Nidra Beard, who was a
      member of his group, Dynasty and a composer of some of Shalamar songs. I can't
      imagine how awkward it must have been for all them to be working together under
      those circumstances.

  • @Gen_X_Rosey
    @Gen_X_Rosey ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I went on a Shalamar fan page on Facebook years ago. The admin of the page called me a "fair weather fan" after I left a comment once. Shalamar's fans went OFF on that admin for calling me that. Told her calling me names was unnecessary and what I said wasn't bad, and it was true! I said, "No, it's okay. I don't need a f**kin' page to be a Shalamar fan. If this is the kind of treatment I get for being a fan and for saying something that wasn't even bad, and it was actually TRUE and was actually stated AS FACT by Jody Watley or Howard Hewett or Jeffrey Daniel or Micki Free ... screw it. I'll just be a fan on my own." To the admin, I said, "F**k you AND this page!" I haven't been on there since.

    • @ericahenderson7093
      @ericahenderson7093 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow I didn't know they did stuff like that on that page I am a member of that Shalamar fan group page that's crazy.. I'm just like you.. I don't need a page or Facebook to be a fan of Shalamar

  • @rubydavis5384
    @rubydavis5384 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    And thank you for keeping US updated with TEA. Again Happy Birthday beautiful Diva🎈🎉🎁

  • @ljett1849
    @ljett1849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shalamar is a good example of the only limitations that matter are those we impose upon ourselves. Seems like big ego limited the group and individual careers. It also a good example of how high one can rise when we say " No more!" and remove ourselves from negative situations.

  • @radioramzi
    @radioramzi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ANOTHA BANGGER!!!!!
    This was AWESOME!!!

  • @lexusdavis21
    @lexusdavis21 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    May we get a video about The Coasters!!! The tea is piping hot Ashley.

  • @michelebrown5142
    @michelebrown5142 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Now I ain't one to gossip and you ain't heard this from me 😂", but I heard Stephanie Mills was appearing somewhere and Jeffrey Daniels was with her. She was signing autographs and he wanted her to cut it short and leave with him. The men started calling him Mr. Mills. 😂

  • @e-maginne
    @e-maginne ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Notification gang in the house!!

  • @MissTangy
    @MissTangy ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love me some Shalamar!

  • @celetab
    @celetab ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is an interview with Stephanie Mills where she talks about going on stage with black eyes from Jeffrey she also talks about his drug use.

  • @NajiLovely
    @NajiLovely ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You are so entertaining! ☺️ Most definitely a great story teller💕💕💕🌹🌹🌹

  • @brendathompson2288
    @brendathompson2288 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Happy Birthday Ashley!!! Hoping that you had an amazing day.

  • @kennywells2907
    @kennywells2907 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Happy birthday Ashley!! Can you a show on the group The EMOTIONS

  • @blkpanther11
    @blkpanther11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oooowwwweee Happy Birthday Ashley Sweetie 🎂🥂

  • @lolawinewinelola
    @lolawinewinelola ปีที่แล้ว +6

    🎉🎉🎉Happy Birthday Beautiful 🤩 thanks for spending it with us❤

  • @sharondeneen1218
    @sharondeneen1218 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love me some Shalamar! Thanks for dropping this video!!! ♥️🎼🎶🎵♥️🫶🏼

  • @sharonscott748
    @sharonscott748 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was my favorite group back in the day. Thank you Ashely. Happy Birthday

  • @RobRoyR8R
    @RobRoyR8R ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bill Bailey did the moonwalk first at the Apollo in 1955.

  • @jalesadrakes4759
    @jalesadrakes4759 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Happy birthday! I hope you had a great one today!🎉❤️

  • @ShondaLeah
    @ShondaLeah ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love their music. Thank you for covering them!

  • @christiewilliams1704
    @christiewilliams1704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jefferey and Stephanie Mills were married for short period of time. It all was published in Ebony and Jet magazine in the early 80's.

  • @swallace9958
    @swallace9958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This man that lived on the street over from mine use to tell me I was his little girlfriend with the Jody Watley eyes 😆. He was much older than me but I've never forgotten that.