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Ashley... I LOVE YOU! Just saying, no one knows what was going on behind closed doors. Specifically no one knows what was going on with Aretha and her dad unless they were with them every hour of every day. Ashley YOU ARE MY FAVORITE!
Beautiful family, how's Angie and can you do Las Vegas Tours in your family of sound? I was in Vegas when I saw they still have it 2gether in 2017. Love family groups.
Hi there. This is Olympia’s daughter. Just want to clear up a few important things here. Firstly, my mom absolutely did not know her attackers. It was completely random and yes, they intended to kill her. Next, Chris did not have AIDS. It was hepatitis. He was not found dead anywhere. He was at home sick then was admitted to the hospital where he passed away. Also, Dick Griffey was absolutely not his father. His father was someone that my grandmother was seeing but is not anyone famous. Lastly, my grandfather had a good relationship with his family, especially in the later years of his life. He wrote my grandmother a long letter acknowledging and apologizing for the type of husband and father he was when they were together. He passed away with several of his children, as well as myself, by his side singing to him as he transitioned. Hope that helps clear a few things up. Have a Blessed day. =)
It sure does! How amazing that you've commented😍 thank you for taking the time to do so, sheesh all of you guys definitely have the Sylvers look and I'm truly honored that you've commented here. Thank you for the update on what's really true and false💞
All praise to you. I first heard about your mother's incident on TV ONES Unsung documentary covering your family. Although this was around what? 73-74, it still sickens me to my stomach that people would do that! My question is "Were the perpetrators ever caught? If so, they deserve the death penalty for that disagreeable behavior! Hopefully youre mother is better and well. P.S., she was a very beautiful woman especially her picture on the 2nd album!❤
@@MD-DLive I don't know all of the facts but the incident with Olympia could not of taken place in 1973-74.According to the document on Unsung her sister Angie said that she remembers seeing Olympia cut up and scared,according to Angie she was 6 years old when she saw her sister,Angie was born in 1960,so the incident could not have happen in the 1970's,more like 1966-67.
The Jacksons had a variety show around the time Hotline from The Sylvers came out. As a kid, I used to get the 2 groups mixed up especially Olympia and Latoya. Olympia was prettiest of The Sylvers girls IMO!❤
That producer that the Sylvers turned to that Ashley speaks of intentionally turned the group against Leon elling them that they didn't need him and could be bigger stars without him and their being still young and gullible fell for it. The fact is it was Leon who brought the group into mainstream recognition,
My hats off to the oldest son, Leon. He continued where his father left off and made a living for his younger siblings. He was the glue that kept the group together. I don't know too many men that would've did was he did, salute brother. You a real one!
Misdemeanor..1973 played all over NYC..all day all night...huge hit..beyond crazy...still play it today..will never stop.. as far a Leon was concerned ..he was actually brother and father to them since the father was no longer there..he took the fathers role....they should have listen to him...because he meant them no harm..he loved them ..and was looking out for all of them as a group...i guess you have to live and learn..
As far as Pickett's daughter, a lot of things children do not see. Plus they also get the glossed over side of things. As far as Aretha, she probably wouldn't know the adult dynamics because she was a child. As far as her mother, of course the family would say the mom was his true love.
I disagree although she was a child people in families talk on both sides of the family so I’m sure she has heard many stories growing up and as an adult about her dad. When you hear the same stories from various family members and friends that’s consist with what she and her siblings witnessed then it’s probably true. There are certain things I heard about my mom that happened when I was very young or before I was born and because I heard those stories from people that was consist with what others told me and none of them knew about the others telling me the stories so I believe them.
I love how honest and transparent you are!!! I take the stories with a grain of salt. I’m not here for the truth. I’m here for YOUR storytelling!!! Thank you for updating us on what Wilson Picketts daughter had to say!!! Wishing you much continued success!!!
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
I can remember The Sylvers being on Soul Train and their hits.Their big brother really stood in the gap for the hole their dad left and made a way for them all.
The Sylvers, “One of the most Underrated Singing Groups Ever,”Lovely Family. Their Choreography was always on point!! By the way, Edmund and Rickey were my two favorites of the group! Awesome 👏🏾 Video Ashley, Thank You 😊 for this ☝️!!!
As a kid of the 70's, the Sylvers were on the level with he Jacksons, especially in the mid 70's. My top 3 were Boogie Fever, Hotline, and High School Dance.
I LOVE the hair, Ashley! You look beautiful girl. Don't EVER let me hear you call yourself a dog again. IN ANY WAY, SHAPE FORM OR FASHION!!! You are a Queen, Mamas! Love you! ♥️♥️♥️
I was thinking the same thing, a cute talented child that probably wasn't protected. I heard a rumor that Angie was dating Tom Jones when she was underage.
i think this happened to Michael. Noticed how he went from a confident kid and teen to a shy adolescent? That man been through 'something'. Can't blame Joe for everything.
@@benbenassi2348 I've said this for years. People put all the blame on Joe for everything. There is way more to the story of the Jackson family. They all have issues. For some reason....it didn't seem like they had all those issues until they got big in LA. I'm not surprised...just making a point.
Ya know daddies little girls will always think their dad was an angel...let's hear from the biracial son And jus cause he was a good dad to her doesn't mean he wasn't a heathen to everyone else
Christopher (the youngest) died of hepatitis in 1985 at the age of 17. & Shirley Sylvers passed away back in 2014. Olympia’s daughter tyava, her father is Stuart bascombe from the 70’s group black ivory.
I didn't know of The Sylvers until Unsung. Unsung did a great job explaining their story. The saddest part to me is the constant comparisons to The Jacksons. I felt bad for them because you could tell they respected The Jacksons but were annoyed by the comparisons. Musically, they really weren't similar so I'm not sure why the comparisons other than they were both a big black family. I'm not sure why people act like only The Jacksons were allowed to exist. I could tell it still bothers them that they didn't really get their chance because they got dismissed as "Jackson knockoffs". Why couldn't more than one black family get shine is the question. I feel like a version of that exists even now which is wierd. It's like Hollywood would only allow so many black people to get shine and sadly even black people play into it.
I heard a story years ago that the Sylvers were at one time touring with the Jacksons and yes it was still when Michael was with the Jacksons. Well anyway Joe Jackson is said to have pulled some strings and demanded that the group stop touring with the Jacksons because he thought they were taking some of the Jacksons spotlight away and got what he wanted.
That's the way it was back then. People had lots of kids. That's why a lot of them got into entertainment - to make money. Most of those families couldn't afford to take care of all those kids with "regular" jobs. Also, a little known fact: a lot of Jehovah's Witnesses get into sports or entertainment because that's the kind of jobs they can do. They aren't encouraged to get into STEM or education or get higher education. So, you will notice a lot of black entertainers that came from a Jehovah's Witness background ( like the Wayans and the Jacksons).
WOW! Congratulations, Ashley! What I find most exciting is that your audience includes those who are much closer to the featured subject(s) and who feel comfortable enough with you and your story-telling to contact you directly to let you know if what is being told is the real truth or just idle gossip. Also, that you give them their respect in letting everyone in your audience know of their perspective. GREAT JOB!!!
Yes the Five Stairsteps were the first family from out of Chi that we’re a family act before the Jackson’s and we’re very talented that even included their Dad
They was taught 4 part harmony not just by their father but Ray Charles as well Ray Charles was impressed that these babies had a even better ear then him . They was able to get tunes and melodies and harmonies in one shot
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
My favorite song from the Sylvers is Cotton Candy that song was a true bop Foster ate on that one Leon Sylvers is a musical genius and it’s not even debatable he’s one of the greatest music producers of all time!!
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
About ten years ago, I was in the county jail for a misdemeanor and it was in a dorm setting, the guy who had the bunk on my left side was a tall older light skinned dude with grayish black hair he started talking to me and we actually had a cool long ass conversation he told me that he was in there for possession which was surprising because he didn't look like a drug user AT ALL he also told me that when he was young that he and his brothers and sisters use to be in a singing group called the Sylvers. I have never heard of them so I didn't take that part seriously the next morning he was gone I heard that he got released straight from court I was released 2 days later when I got home I looked up the group name and immediately recognized him it was Ricky Sylvers but he introduced himself to me as Rick. He was a really nice guy.
Edmund was definitely the literal “Papa Was a Rollin’ Stone”… 👀👀👀 Glad to hear from Wilson’s daughter. And yeah his family did say he had a sweet side to him.
I went to John Burroughs Junior High School with Angie. They were so talented and humble. Their music was amazing. I went to Wilshire Crest elementary with OC Smith's kids and nephews, went to Wilshire Crest with Young and the Restless Phillip Morris. Ralph Carter from Good Times was my neighbor. Ms Halle Berry lived a house away from us at one point.
This was so sad😔 I really do feel like if Leon the father would have stayed and managed them the outcome would have been different and maybe they could've been as popular as The Jackson Five. 👍🏽
Indeed! Love and respect me some Mrs. Shirley Sylvers...she was a real one. Women of her generation were expected to get married in their teens, have children, LOTS of children, and be housewives. Her world was rocked when her husband left her with all the kids because his job was to provide as men of his generation were expected to do. Mrs. Sylvers was strong in addition to being beautiful.
It was their brother and oldest sibling Leon Jr. that I believe you're speaking of who they should have gone with. Their father Leon Sr. left the family when they were young and Leon Jr. took over as the man of the family and led their early music rise, writing and producing all of their music during that time
I don't know why people keep saying they were 'scarred' by the DeBarges (knowing they watched the whole thing) It was everybody else's favorite. That was a study in a type of family we didn't even know could exist. Don't let them slow you ,Girl. It was the kind of refreshing STRONG tea, you just can't find no more. Thank You. Big Hug.
I’m early for the Forever Yours, Hot Line, Misdemeanor, High School Dance 💃🏽 Sylvers Family Tea! 🥰 I love the Sylvers and know about them but it’s nothing like when AshleySaysSo delivers it! ❤️
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
Beautiful family! It's unfortunate that their lives and career was marred by tragedy, abandonment, drugs and a host of other trauma. Thanks for sharing your spin on this family Ashley. You are appreciated💛
Thanks for clearing up the Wilson Pickett. I am glad they feel comfortable reaching out to you. I am also glad his children are doing well. The Sylvers I knew some of this but not nearly all of it. Man I was in love with 2 of the brothers, Edmond and Foster! But Pappa Sylvester every time he looked at her she got pregnant. I am so glad their hard life wasn't like the Debarges. They were just too much. I really enjoyed this Ashley!
One never knows their parents true selves or past. I understand her need to protect her father's legacy, but you cannot speak about his love life except that he was with your mother.
I like the hair on you. Charmaine Slyvers' baby picture looked like she didn't accept no mess. Looking like "yeah right" lol. This was a good video. I definitely didn't expect it. I was going to watch an old video and then saw this. It made my little day
Even if he didn’t divorce her he was with other women I’d rather he divorce me it’s shameful to know you still married and your husband with other women it wouldn’t make me happy just because I was the only one he married.
Thank you, my sister still married been separated for 3 years but he has lived with 2 other women so far,and she has dated over 6 different men divorce n move on, oh yes then was angry cuz 1 guy she really liked didn't want to date her cuz she was still married.
Christopher Sylvers died at age 18, in 1985, from Hepatitis. Chris was born in the late 60s, and it was stated years ago that Mr. Sylvers wasn’t his father.
I grew up on the Sylvers , oh how I wish I could’ve of met them , my mother knew their mother she acutely helped my mother get on her feet in Memphis and when my mother told me that I actually wrote her a letter my mother gave me her address and she wrote me back and said when she come to Memphis she would let me meet her children but I end up moving back to chicago and didn’t keep in touch Mrs. Sylvers very sweet woman … wish I could’ve met her …
So here I am, eating my lunch and enjoying my girl Ashley spilling this tea. I almost CHOCKED on my food when Miss Ashley described the "Foster/Booty" story. 😂 As always, thank you for your hard work in putting these videos together. You've made my day. ❤
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
I grew up on The sylvers. My cousin and I both had crushes on Edmond. So you can imagine how happy I was when I met him in person at the grocery store in Richmond Virginia. This encounter led to 2 years of a Friends with benefits relationship between us. He shared a lot of things about the music business with me and his experiences eventually I met someone and got married and we only stayed inside touch by phone R.I.P. my friend.💗 Thank you for the video.
Very interesting Edythe. I'd love to hear more about his personality. So he was involved with two women with the last name Payne (smile). Thank you for sharing. : )
Yesss Ashley love this video , love how you clear up these stories when their friends and family reach out to you. Hard to find entertainment with integrity .
Thank you for the video and especially including my friend Christopher. He was the first person who tried to boost my poor self esteem. He was gorgeous and so beyond his young years. We were only friends the last year of his life. I miss him and think of him often.
Omg never knew all that bad stuff happened to them. I never knew that lil adorable kid from child’s play three was his son omg. It’s a small world after all lol
Very good! How about doing one on The 5 Stairsteps Burke family. Equally talented & tragic. Thanks for this one. Leon the third is still held in high esteem by the music industry & fans. A great bassist & producer.
When I logged into Netflix I saw that Katt Williams has a special on there....boom I'm finna watch it when I finish cleaning up....hold up lemme check in on TH-cam.....yeah I'm going watch this one first
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Ashley... I LOVE YOU! Just saying, no one knows what was going on behind closed doors. Specifically no one knows what was going on with Aretha and her dad unless they were with them every hour of every day. Ashley YOU ARE MY FAVORITE!
It's rumored that Edmund is the father of singer Mario.
Lol too funny 😂
Girl I love you…and this hair here!!! It looks good on you!!! I love it!!
The hair is very cute BTW
Hi there! I'm Leon's 1st daughter from his first marriage. You did a great job on fact checking and accuracy. Most of what was shared is truth.
You look like your Aunt Olan
Oh wow! Thank you so much! I love when family comes by to confirm it makes me so appreciative and grateful. Thank you it means alot💓
Beautiful family, how's Angie and can you do Las Vegas Tours in your family of sound? I was in Vegas when I saw they still have it 2gether in 2017. Love family groups.
TH-cam footage, of course.
Leon was a real one here !
Hi there. This is Olympia’s daughter. Just want to clear up a few important things here. Firstly, my mom absolutely did not know her attackers. It was completely random and yes, they intended to kill her.
Next, Chris did not have AIDS. It was hepatitis. He was not found dead anywhere. He was at home sick then was admitted to the hospital where he passed away. Also, Dick Griffey was absolutely not his father. His father was someone that my grandmother was seeing but is not anyone famous.
Lastly, my grandfather had a good relationship with his family, especially in the later years of his life. He wrote my grandmother a long letter acknowledging and apologizing for the type of husband and father he was when they were together. He passed away with several of his children, as well as myself, by his side singing to him as he transitioned.
Hope that helps clear a few things up. Have a Blessed day. =)
It sure does! How amazing that you've commented😍 thank you for taking the time to do so, sheesh all of you guys definitely have the Sylvers look and I'm truly honored that you've commented here. Thank you for the update on what's really true and false💞
Thank you and be blessed 🙏
All praise to you. I first heard about your mother's incident on TV ONES Unsung documentary covering your family. Although this was around what? 73-74, it still sickens me to my stomach that people would do that! My question is "Were the perpetrators ever caught? If so, they deserve the death penalty for that disagreeable behavior! Hopefully youre mother is better and well. P.S., she was a very beautiful woman especially her picture on the 2nd album!❤
@@MD-DLive I don't know all of the facts but the incident with Olympia could not of taken place in 1973-74.According to the document on Unsung her sister Angie said that she remembers seeing Olympia cut up and scared,according to Angie she was 6 years old when she saw her sister,Angie was born in 1960,so the incident could not have happen in the 1970's,more like 1966-67.
The Jacksons had a variety show around the time Hotline from The Sylvers came out. As a kid, I used to get the 2 groups mixed up especially Olympia and Latoya. Olympia was prettiest of The Sylvers girls IMO!❤
Those Sylvers were some pretty people. Just PRETTY. And rightfully so because Momma and Daddy Sylvers were pretty.
Just so you know…UGLY PPL can produce pretty children….
Yesss gorgeous family!
All of them very nice looking especially the girls 👧 I had there album
Oh yesss every last one, truly blessed 👏🏽👏🏽
Yasssss every last one, truly blessed 👏🏽👏🏽
Mother Shirley is a strong woman to raise that many children.
@Woah_ Millie She is. But why go and have another kid after you had 9 previously? And not married?
@@Belburg Good question. I was wondering that myself.
Fun fact Mr. Sylvers was a mathematician and engineering major in college so that means he was extremely intelligent
Yep
Facts
That producer that the Sylvers turned to that Ashley speaks of intentionally turned the group against Leon elling them that they didn't need him and could be bigger stars without him and their being still young and gullible fell for it. The fact is it was Leon who brought the group into mainstream recognition,
My hats off to the oldest son, Leon. He continued where his father left off and made a living for his younger siblings. He was the glue that kept the group together. I don't know too many men that would've did was he did, salute brother. You a real one!
Misdemeanor..1973 played all over NYC..all day all night...huge hit..beyond crazy...still play it today..will never stop.. as far a Leon was concerned ..he was actually brother and father to them since the father was no longer there..he took the fathers role....they should have listen to him...because he meant them no harm..he loved them ..and was looking out for all of them as a group...i guess you have to live and learn..
Poor Olympia didn't live a normal life. Sending hugs and prayers.
She didn't. Poor Ol Ann.🙏🏿❤️
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That was so sad, glad her life got better.
As far as Pickett's daughter, a lot of things children do not see. Plus they also get the glossed over side of things. As far as Aretha, she probably wouldn't know the adult dynamics because she was a child. As far as her mother, of course the family would say the mom was his true love.
Spot on! 🎯
That part. She don't know
I disagree although she was a child people in families talk on both sides of the family so I’m sure she has heard many stories growing up and as an adult about her dad. When you hear the same stories from various family members and friends that’s consist with what she and her siblings witnessed then it’s probably true.
There are certain things I heard about my mom that happened when I was very young or before I was born and because I heard those stories from people that was consist with what others told me and none of them knew about the others telling me the stories so I believe them.
Exactly!
I couldn’t agree more.
The Sylvers needed their father. Shame he was so selfish, all those young lives in his hands. Daddy dropped the ball.
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Facts
I love how honest and transparent you are!!! I take the stories with a grain of salt. I’m not here for the truth. I’m here for YOUR storytelling!!! Thank you for updating us on what Wilson Picketts daughter had to say!!! Wishing you much continued success!!!
I concur❣️
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
Exactly👍🏾
Got it quick quantum quack
That's both hilarious and amazing @ the same timing!!
I can remember The Sylvers being on Soul Train and their hits.Their big brother really stood in the gap for the hole their dad left and made a way for them all.
The Sylvers, “One of the most Underrated Singing Groups Ever,”Lovely Family. Their Choreography was always on point!! By the way, Edmund and Rickey were my two favorites of the group! Awesome 👏🏾 Video Ashley, Thank You 😊 for this ☝️!!!
Yes Sandra I loved them when I was little girl
Oh yes Jennifer, brings back many memories, “THE AMAZING SYLVERS.”
I just found out about them like 2 weeks ago I thought they were trying to create a Jackson 5 or Jacksons type group
AQuinn0630 You discovered an Amazing Group,!!!
TRUE!
Leon Sylvers is so good looking. Extremely talented. He's very relevant in the music game. Thank you for covering this family
As a kid of the 70's, the Sylvers were on the level with he Jacksons, especially in the mid 70's. My top 3 were Boogie Fever, Hotline, and High School Dance.
Not a group with the greatest entertainer ever
Yes!
The Sylvers’ Unsung was one of best ever.
I LOVE the hair, Ashley! You look beautiful girl. Don't EVER let me hear you call yourself a dog again. IN ANY WAY, SHAPE FORM OR FASHION!!! You are a Queen, Mamas! Love you! ♥️♥️♥️
She could tell a story about a rock in the ocean, and I’d listen!!!🥂🥂
There were a lot of Sylvers on the stage back in the day… Love the way their Afros flowed💖
Sad story about Olympia.... I am sure that incident caused ptsd as well as other traumas... 😢😭
The daughter of Wilson Pickett story seems a little one sided...
Yeah the side of delusion.
Right lol you know a child gone stand up for her father even when he wrong
@@lolabunny1157 As she should. But we don’t have to buy what she’s selling. And I don’t.
@@MissT813 right me either
I can’t help but to believe that Foster was also abused as a child in Hollywood smh
I was thinking the same thing, a cute talented child that probably wasn't protected. I heard a rumor that Angie was dating Tom Jones when she was underage.
I'm thinking the same thing too.
He was and wasn’t protected at all :(
i think this happened to Michael. Noticed how he went from a confident kid and teen to a shy adolescent? That man been through 'something'. Can't blame Joe for everything.
@@benbenassi2348 I've said this for years. People put all the blame on Joe for everything. There is way more to the story of the Jackson family. They all have issues. For some reason....it didn't seem like they had all those issues until they got big in LA. I'm not surprised...just making a point.
"He started hanging with Ike Turner". Say no more.
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And Joe Jackson. 🙃 The Mean "Ninjas" of Hollyweird.........
🎶 Boogie Fever, I got to boogie down 🎶 Lol, showing my age.
Ya know daddies little girls will always think their dad was an angel...let's hear from the biracial son
And jus cause he was a good dad to her doesn't mean he wasn't a heathen to everyone else
EXACTLY! And she refuting everything including him and Aretha Franklin but was she there or even born when they were "allegedly" messing around???
Christopher (the youngest) died of hepatitis in 1985 at the age of 17. & Shirley Sylvers passed away back in 2014. Olympia’s daughter tyava, her father is Stuart bascombe from the 70’s group black ivory.
I didn't know of The Sylvers until Unsung. Unsung did a great job explaining their story. The saddest part to me is the constant comparisons to The Jacksons. I felt bad for them because you could tell they respected The Jacksons but were annoyed by the comparisons. Musically, they really weren't similar so I'm not sure why the comparisons other than they were both a big black family. I'm not sure why people act like only The Jacksons were allowed to exist. I could tell it still bothers them that they didn't really get their chance because they got dismissed as "Jackson knockoffs". Why couldn't more than one black family get shine is the question. I feel like a version of that exists even now which is wierd. It's like Hollywood would only allow so many black people to get shine and sadly even black people play into it.
I agree with you Lisa Cox.
I heard a story years ago that the Sylvers were at one time touring with the Jacksons and yes it was still when Michael was with the Jacksons. Well anyway Joe Jackson is said to have pulled some strings and demanded that the group stop touring with the Jacksons because he thought they were taking some of the Jacksons spotlight away and got what he wanted.
@@rovingwarrior3710Stop lying
The silver's, Wayans, and Jacksons have something in common.... A lot of damn kids!!
Don't forget the DEBARGE
@@carolynmartin7963 oh yeah 👍🏾
That's the way it was back then. People had lots of kids. That's why a lot of them got into entertainment - to make money. Most of those families couldn't afford to take care of all those kids with "regular" jobs. Also, a little known fact: a lot of Jehovah's Witnesses get into sports or entertainment because that's the kind of jobs they can do. They aren't encouraged to get into STEM or education or get higher education. So, you will notice a lot of black entertainers that came from a Jehovah's Witness background ( like the Wayans and the Jacksons).
The Winnans also. The Jets have 17 tho 2 adopted 15 bio. But the 5 Stair Steps started it all. My grandfather had 9 sibs, and step mom had 17.
Debarge
WOW! Congratulations, Ashley! What I find most exciting is that your audience includes those who are much closer to the featured subject(s) and who feel comfortable enough with you and your story-telling to contact you directly to let you know if what is being told is the real truth or just idle gossip. Also, that you give them their respect in letting everyone in your audience know of their perspective. GREAT JOB!!!
Yes,I really like that.
Love the Sylvers. Great information about them. I remember it was the Jacksons, Sylvers, and Osmonds with big singing families.
True. But the 5 Stair Steps "OOh Child" set the tone.
Yes the Five Stairsteps were the first family from out
of Chi that we’re a family act before the
Jackson’s and we’re
very talented that even included their Dad
YES! Getting them sponsors! LOOKING CUTE IN BLONDE, Miss Ashley!😍😊💖💖💖💖
They was taught 4 part harmony not just by their father but Ray Charles as well Ray Charles was impressed that these babies had a even better ear then him . They was able to get tunes and melodies and harmonies in one shot
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
My favorite song from the Sylvers is Cotton Candy that song was a true bop Foster ate on that one Leon Sylvers is a musical genius and it’s not even debatable he’s one of the greatest music producers of all time!!
The way I just hung up on my boss🤣🤣 Meeting OVA!!! LOVE U ASHLEY 🧡
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The joys of working from home... I can watch anytime. 😂😂😂 Hey girl hey. Love you Ms. Ashley. This is gonna be good😁
Yes Hunny I love it!
I work from home 2-3 days a week...and love it . Looking to COMPLETELY WFH, even if it's not with my current company
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT! I HAD TO GET MY BOWL OF JELLO FOR THIS ONE!! LOL!
OH, AND I'M RETIRED! LOL!!
It's great the way you update and clarify information after hearing from the family
It’s called taking accountability… some of these other pages can definitely learn from her 😬
Right! I love that she has integrity 💕😊
I absolutely love how you tell the story the same way we would with our families at cookouts. It’s very much “Pearl from 227” & honey, I love it.
Janet Jackson worked with Foster and Leon on her very first album.
Edmund was the original Future.
“Grew him back his butt” took me OWT!!😂😂😂
About ten years ago, I was in the county jail for a misdemeanor and it was in a dorm setting, the guy who had the bunk on my left side was a tall older light skinned dude with grayish black hair he started talking to me and we actually had a cool long ass conversation he told me that he was in there for possession which was surprising because he didn't look like a drug user AT ALL he also told me that when he was young that he and his brothers and sisters use to be in a singing group called the Sylvers. I have never heard of them so I didn't take that part seriously the next morning he was gone I heard that he got released straight from court I was released 2 days later when I got home I looked up the group name and immediately recognized him it was Ricky Sylvers but he introduced himself to me as Rick. He was a really nice guy.
Wow.
Wow that's incredible...was this in California?
Edmund was definitely the literal “Papa Was a Rollin’ Stone”… 👀👀👀
Glad to hear from Wilson’s daughter. And yeah his family did say he had a sweet side to him.
Did y’all know that Edmund Sylvers voiced Marlon Jackson in the Jackson 5 cartoon?
She said it in the video...
Ricky n Edmund n James did that cartoon
@@deonnadyson Oop i missed that. I gotta rewatch it 😅🤦🏾♀️ it was a lot goin on lol
@@rrockhard1 It Was Only Edmund
@@alwanthony6910 what was only edmond,
Boogie Fever was my sister "R i.P. as well as one of my favorite songs by The Sylvers
RIP EDMUND....THE SYLVERS ARE A GOOD LOOKING FAMILY...THE GIRLS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND THE BOYS ARE HANDSOME
I went to John Burroughs Junior High School with Angie. They were so talented and humble. Their music was amazing. I went to Wilshire Crest elementary with OC Smith's kids and nephews, went to Wilshire Crest with Young and the Restless Phillip Morris. Ralph Carter from Good Times was my neighbor. Ms Halle
Berry lived a house away from us at one point.
@Linda Reid What was Ralph like?
Ms. Shirley and Mr. Leon made some beautiful children.
This was so sad😔 I really do feel like if Leon the father would have stayed and managed them the outcome would have been different and maybe they could've been as popular as The Jackson Five. 👍🏽
Thats amazing that you get to speak with people that were close to the person back in the day
Momma was no joke! RIP momma!!!
Indeed! Love and respect me some Mrs. Shirley Sylvers...she was a real one. Women of her generation were expected to get married in their teens, have children, LOTS of children, and be housewives. Her world was rocked when her husband left her with all the kids because his job was to provide as men of his generation were expected to do. Mrs. Sylvers was strong in addition to being beautiful.
50%, damn!!!! They should've went with their dad. What happened to Olympia was really messed up. The guys who did that to her were WICKED!
Did they have an option to go with the father. I thought he abandoned them.
The dad left Mrs. Shirley and Leon had to take over. Olympia was kidnapped with another kid.
@@theartistmind7028 Oh ok. I thought they chose Leon as a manager over their dad. Dad left already. Oh ok.
It was their brother and oldest sibling Leon Jr. that I believe you're speaking of who they should have gone with. Their father Leon Sr. left the family when they were young and Leon Jr. took over as the man of the family and led their early music rise, writing and producing all of their music during that time
@@rovingwarrior3710 Oh ok......
I don't know why people keep saying they were 'scarred' by the DeBarges (knowing they watched the whole thing) It was everybody else's favorite. That was a study in a type of family we didn't even know could exist. Don't let them slow you ,Girl. It was the kind of refreshing STRONG tea, you just can't find no more. Thank You. Big Hug.
💯💯💯💯 I had to watch it twice cause Ashley tolddd that thang!! 👏🏽👏🏽
“I don’t think Prophets out here granting new booty to folks…” Ashleyyy lmao, I almost lost my drink laughing😂🤣
Don Cornelius was flirting with Olympia on soul train after the performance of fool's paradise!
I’m early for the Forever Yours, Hot Line, Misdemeanor, High School Dance 💃🏽 Sylvers Family Tea! 🥰 I love the Sylvers and know about them but it’s nothing like when AshleySaysSo delivers it! ❤️
I can listen to the Misdemeanor remix for three weeks straight!!🥰
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
@@kameshiam1674 yes !
All jams but I loved the first three albums the most when they were on the conscious side
I had the biggest crush on Foster! That smile was everything!
The ego is a hellva force to be reckoned with
Ashley you are an amazing storyteller. I'm looking forward to seeing more nighttale stories.
And now I'm hungry for the SHALIMAR story, Miss Ashley! 😆😆😆
Me this Black Girl loves scarey stories thrillers love it honey child🙏✌️💪😘😬✨😍💋👀😜👁️🥰🤳
@@IJustCant-jj2rv I know that's right! Jodie always seemed like a space cadet to me. But I would love to hear their stories!
Thanks for another good story. I had the pleasure of meeting Angie, Pat & Leon and they were very kind.
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
Beautiful family! It's unfortunate that their lives and career was marred by tragedy, abandonment, drugs and a host of other trauma. Thanks for sharing your spin on this family Ashley. You are appreciated💛
Thanks for clearing up the Wilson Pickett. I am glad they feel comfortable reaching out to you. I am also glad his children are doing well. The Sylvers I knew some of this but not nearly all of it. Man I was in love with 2 of the brothers, Edmond and Foster! But Pappa Sylvester every time he looked at her she got pregnant. I am so glad their hard life wasn't like the Debarges. They were just too much. I really enjoyed this Ashley!
Jody married Andre Cymone - Prince's bandmate.
I appreciate the daughter speaking up for her Dad but the truth is never as interesting as a lie. The tea was too good.
I don't believe everything his daughter is saying either
Exactly teaa was hot
@@cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess me either
One never knows their parents true selves or past. I understand her need to protect her father's legacy, but you cannot speak about his love life except that he was with your mother.
@@junkmail2046 exactly
I like the hair on you. Charmaine Slyvers' baby picture looked like she didn't accept no mess. Looking like "yeah right" lol. This was a good video. I definitely didn't expect it. I was going to watch an old video and then saw this. It made my little day
Even if he didn’t divorce her he was with other women I’d rather he divorce me it’s shameful to know you still married and your husband with other women it wouldn’t make me happy just because I was the only one he married.
Thank you, my sister still married been separated for 3 years but he has lived with 2 other women so far,and she has dated over 6 different men divorce n move on, oh yes then was angry cuz 1 guy she really liked didn't want to date her cuz she was still married.
Thank you! Like that was a badge of honor..🤦🏾♀️
Exactly, makes no sense to me.
The Chucky reference JUST TOOK ME TF OUT! 😫😭🤣😭😭
HOW SHE KNOW WHAT ARETHA AND HER DADDY DID IN THE BEDROOM??!….I GUESS…CHIIILE….😩🤦🏽♀️
Right! Like parents tell they kids oh I was a hot mess when I was young.
Exactly 💯💯she wasn't even born
@@quitafarlo8625 EXACTLY!!!
@@NajiLovely RIGHT!
Lol...
So glad that the family update was positive. I was wondering how the family were doing
Ms Tyava and Ms.Shannon thanks for making sure the words are accurate. Bless You!!!
Please do a Shalamar episode.....plenty of tea
Christopher Sylvers died at age 18, in 1985, from Hepatitis. Chris was born in the late 60s, and it was stated years ago that Mr. Sylvers wasn’t his father.
I grew up on the Sylvers , oh how I wish I could’ve of met them , my mother knew their mother she acutely helped my mother get on her feet in Memphis and when my mother told me that I actually wrote her a letter my mother gave me her address and she wrote me back and said when she come to Memphis she would let me meet her children but I end up moving back to chicago and didn’t keep in touch Mrs. Sylvers very sweet woman … wish I could’ve met her …
So here I am, eating my lunch and enjoying my girl Ashley spilling this tea. I almost CHOCKED on my food when Miss Ashley described the "Foster/Booty" story. 😂
As always, thank you for your hard work in putting these videos together. You've made my day. ❤
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I fell outttttt 😅😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..I believe all of it!!!
That shi was funny!! 😩😂. She has so much humor. She’s going to be big. I can see it!
The children, as The Little Angel's, appeared on Danny Thomas's show, Make room for daddy.
I love how you came back & corrected the gossip.
Their father should be ashamed, Edmond was fine ❤️❤️❤️ and that super fro.
One thing for sure these black singing families had some gorgeous kids...the Osmonds too
When she said all I do on my downtime is sleep lol 😂 I felt that on spiritual level. 8 be needing my rest
Omg....Wow! My head is spinning from Ms Ashley rapid fire monologue / For those who are also suffering from "spinning head" syndrome take note/ This video I did (see link ) on the other hand shares with fans of The Sylvers the MAGIC they exuded BEFORE BOOGIE FEVER / I appreciate Ashley's right to free speech and hope one day she and all who view my edit will walk away with a different look at The Sylvers. Whom in my world (as far as during the years of their first 3 LPs ) were simply one of the GREATEST GROUPS of ALL TIME ...>>>th-cam.com/video/uE1O2r8vFC4/w-d-xo.html
I grew up on The sylvers. My cousin and I both had crushes on Edmond. So you can imagine how happy I was when I met him in person at the grocery store in Richmond Virginia. This encounter led to 2 years of a Friends with benefits relationship between us. He shared a lot of things about the music business with me and his experiences eventually I met someone and got married and we only stayed inside touch by phone R.I.P. my friend.💗 Thank you for the video.
Very interesting Edythe. I'd love to hear more about his personality. So he was involved with two women with the last name Payne (smile). Thank you for sharing. : )
804 stand up
Pat and Olympia look just like their mother.
Not a golden retriever! Lol, you look beautiful as always, girl. Thank you for your dedication to telling our stories ❤️
I listen to misdemeanor daily 😆....love the sylvers 🥰. The hair girlllll...Do you!!
I love the update on Wilson Picket. You truly call it down the middle. Much respect.
Yeah those Sylvers women were extremely gorgeous just like their mom,WOW.
I am studying to write scripts. One if my wishlist projects is a sylvers movie. Manifestation is in place!!
Still got my Sylvers albums that I bought as a kid
Yesss Ashley love this video , love how you clear up these stories when their friends and family reach out to you. Hard to find entertainment with integrity .
It's Just A Misdemeanor 🎶🎶🎶 WHATCHA' GONNA DOOOO"????🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶✊🏽💚💚💙🤍
Chileeee this some T didn’t know this about Leon and Jody 👀
Nah Leon got that family out of the PJs!!!
Thank you for the video and especially including my friend Christopher. He was the first person who tried to boost my poor self esteem. He was gorgeous and so beyond his young years. We were only friends the last year of his life. I miss him and think of him often.
I just discovered Misdemeanor about a couple of weeks ago. It’s on repeat in my playlist.
The Sylvers had some beautiful children.
I thought Jody Watley's Daughter was by Andre Cymone...I learn something everytime you do a video.
And Girl I Love your videos
Jody son is for Andre Cymone according to Wikipedia and daughter for Leon Sylver.
@@caroljackson4093 oh ok...Thanks for the clear up
Yeah I thought so too. On the Shalarmar Unsung episode Jody wouldn't reveal who the father was
@@latashad.hester7968 did the men of shalamar tell Jody to kill her child ?
@@dionneking8 I don't know that information
Much Gratitude.
Ps Cry of a Dreamer ,one of the best songs, ever.
Pps The Sylvers were in the movie The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh.
Lol not the Leon close up after speaking about Jody 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
It's the Edmund shot when she began his story for me 💀
Omg never knew all that bad stuff happened to them. I never knew that lil adorable kid from child’s play three was his son omg. It’s a small world after all lol
Very good! How about doing one on The 5 Stairsteps Burke family. Equally talented & tragic. Thanks for this one. Leon the third is still held in high esteem by the music industry & fans. A great bassist & producer.
Who???
Yes, The 5 Stairsteps!! The Original First Family of Soul!!👏 That would be nice.👍
@@missretrolove2664 yes
I love seeing that the views are so high after posting this video less than an hour ago! I’m so proud of you Ashley!!
When I logged into Netflix I saw that Katt Williams has a special on there....boom I'm finna watch it when I finish cleaning up....hold up lemme check in on TH-cam.....yeah I'm going watch this one first