World's Deadliest Deer Rifle!
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- Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Channel! In today's video, I tell you about the world's deadliest deer rifle!
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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The stock on that 243 is gorgeous 😍
From Australia...another great vid mate. There is a saying here in Oz... "When the wild boar charges at you, what is the best rifle? The one that's closest!"
And remember, when a bear attacks, you just have to outrun one person.
Ron...In my hunting days...I ordered new a Ruger 77 when they came out with their first "long action" 77 in the early 70's in .270 Win. I put a 4 power Leupold scope on it...and that was my most deadly deer rifle. I loaded Speer flat base 150's for Elk and Sierra 130 boat tails for deer. I shot it a lot! I never got an Elk with it...i "screwed up" a long 400 to 500 yard shot. :( The following year in Montana (1973) I was carrying my 700 in 300 Win Mag because I pulled a Grizzly tag...otherwise my 270 would have done the job...I got a nice Elk at a whopping 50 yards with the 300. Keep up the great work...to me you are my Jack O'Conner! God Bless!
my first rifle was a .243, took several deer with it before trying out my dads savage .270. definitely felt more confident with it. currently have a 30-06. absolutely love it. wide variety of loads, extremely accurate, and just fun to shoot. but really, ill take whatever i can get to go hunting with.
I grew up on the 30-06, took MANY MANY MANY deer with it. One day, my newwphew showed up tih the 243... I was skeptical, 100 grains... then he shot a buck with it. Nice 3/4" hole all the way through the lungs.
30 bucks later, I AM IN LOVE with thr 243. -- any deer I ever put thr crosshairs behind the shoulders has ended up inth3 freezer.. 300 yards, no problem.
Though, this year my scope was "walking" a week before deer season, I picked up a 270 wsm, I bought my wife 10 Years ago. We (and her 243). We took, a young 4 pt mule bu k opening day 140 yards. (Bang flop).
And a HUGE mule buck at 540 yards on the second day. (I held about 18" over his back and let it fly) took out his heart.
On elk, I pack my 375 Remington Ultra Mag. That puts elk down like a 180 grain 06 takes deer down. (But my shoulder hurts).
I agree with Ron, on this one. Any rifle you like, THAT'S THE BEST.
Like Ron said
Agreed, .30-06 can be loaded hot or mild, mild loads will crumble a deer very well!
I wish the 25-06 remington had more factory ammo availability. I feel it's a underrated caliber for mules & whitetails🦌
As with tractors, I've never met a rifle I didn't like.
“Some people don’t like the new stuff”….yup that’s me !!!!
There are relatively few new things I really like(6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western being among the few). There’s nothing in the firearm world that gets me ogling more than a hunting rifle, revolver or defensive auto in blued steel and walnut. So I have to second that sentiment👍
👍 old fashioned me too , shot my only Elk 2003 with 30 odd 06 over 200 yards one step later dropped! Good eating! Ridge way , Colorado Great memories
What he said
6.5x06 has been my deer caliber for years ! Besides have ran over more deer in my jeep than shot in the last 2 years
@@tacworx2Ron mentioned a 25-06 Ackley Improved some months ago and that rekindled my old interest in the 6.5-06ai. What loads do you prefer in your 6.5-06?
I'm a fan of 30s. I've killed deer and elk with 30-30, 30.06, 300HH. My Dad only carried a .270 Model 70. It's what you shoot and what you know. Great Video Ron.. Thank you
I have a 30-30 .308 and like your dad the .270 and it has a kick to it more so then the .308 or 30-06.
Your Dad is in the same corner as Jack O'Connor who has shot & killed every game species in North America with a Remington .270 Model 70; Jack's favorite bullet was a Sierra manufactured 130 grain Spitzer tip boattail & 4895 powder as a propellent.
30.6 great
@@leemoore9933 really?
@@edysinsimon8646 Yes it sure does, all are bolt action except the 30-30 it's as you know lever, but yeah for what ever reason that .270 has a bit of a punch to it. It's a very flat shooting round though. It would make a good sniper round.
Great video Ron, I couldn't agree more. I am 65 years young, and have owned many of the world's greatest deer rifles. My current world's greatest deer rifle, is a Sako 85 Classic in 270. Shooting my handloaded, 140 grain Nosler BT's Topped with a Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40. I hunt upstate NY.
1903A3 in 30-06 with Iron Sights. Love it for its historical significance, competition matches, and for deer 🦌 hunting season.
With a scope mine is sub moa, with iron sights at 200 yards 6" groups. You, took many deer with mine. (I have a couple Springfield, some Full battle dress, some spororized. Love them all.
Ron, These days it appears that ANY rifle for which a hunter has ammo may be “the world’s greatest deer rifle!”
Great video and thoughts, as always!
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I don't think he was saying that one Rifle is better than Aother he was just saying that the one you ues is good and was just pointing out some people argue the there's is the best#think before you decide on saying Dumbass shit that comes out of your mouth talk too you Paul Simmons
Yes, modern bullets are amazing. I remember back in the 1990s sometimes I would shoot a deer with a softpoint or a silvertip in the front end and not collect it. Now they don't go anywhere even with a .243 using a trophy copper or TTSX or hornady SST. Bullets are SO much better now. 30-06 and .308 is tearing up meat for me, even 6.5 creedmoor. So I'm trying high neck shots lately. If I shoot a whitetail behind the shoulder with a modern .30 cal or even 6.5 creedmoor I'm blowing up most of the front end. These bullets hit so hard.
Maybe, the ammo that you can find and afford.
Will stick to my 308 Winchester. Has never left me down.
Left you down. So it has let you down.
@@joshlower1 I second the .308 win
When I worked as a geologist for 10 years in Chukotka and Kamchatka, I used to take 5-6 caribou per season with a .22 rifle. Now in the US I have 243 and .270 caliber rifles
Кроме .22 ничего не было?
Кроме .22 ничего не было?
@@KOK678770 двустволка 12 кал. одна на весь отряд, т.ч. она обычно в лагере была на случай посещения лагеря медведями. Так что, выбирать было не из чего.
@@TheGeophoto печалька. Хоть бы людям , кто на природе оружие разрешали.
Can’t believe you did not include the .270! It’s a fantastic deer Rifle!!!
Cap
Too strong... 243 is PERFECT!
Don't even need fancy scope to knock one down💀
I know roughly 25-30 deer in the past 10 years who would disagree with you on the 270..
They absolutely hate that thing!
@@alaskanmusher7098 I shoot a 270 for mulies and antelope. My longest shot on an entelope was 400 yards. I know it works - would a 243 do the same?
The 270 out classes all of them . I know I have all of them . Good hunting brother
I use a heavy barrel 308. It is my deer gun, bear gun, moose gun, and so on. I don't use it for varmint hunting because it has a loud crack when fired. But for all big game, it works just fine.
I guide for whitetail deer in Texas. I tell people (when they ask) to buy a .308. In Colo for muleys I like a 7MM Rem Mag... but Ron is right. Use what you shoot well and have recently practiced with
Your right as always. My 30-30 Marlin and 270 Ruger 77 have never failed.
Love my .350legend ar15 stainless 20inch upper. ❤ New to hunting whitetail at 41years old. Already teaching my 8and 7year old boys to shoot,respect, and become good stewards of the hunt. Love your content. Learned a lot from you. Keep it coming!
Gonna have to say u hit the nail on the head with this one. Great job Ron
30-30 harvested more deer and black bears in the US than any other rifle. In Canada, the .303 British is the winner because of their overlords. I adore the 30-30 but I spoil myself with my scoped 1959 Husqvarna built JC Higgins .308 brought to us by Sears and Roebuck. That’s the perfect deer rifle for me. I’m really familiar with it.
The "WORLDS" deadliest deer rifle is the one that you shoot accurately and has the power/speed to kill humanly...
Was always fond of 270win I hand loaded my 700 senders about 3150 fps with 110 gr bthp its suited for deer coyote any varmint hunting flat fast and reliable
@@davidsmith1913 ,,,,ABSOLUTELY love my 270 that was a 14th b-day gift,,,I prefer the 140gr bthp on top of 56.4 grains of IMR 4350 the 140 gives better down range energy & wind bucking performance than the 110,,but each to there own,,,good luck this year & happy hunting.
.22LR. 1 million spot lighters can’t be wrong.
Mine is Thompson center new englander 50 cal smoke pole.
Still a great pump gun even though it is mostly plastic, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxh4su9YgU1tWmjikirWcKJbjsFLEU62Bc but with care it will last a long time. It would be neat if Crosman would make a commemorative version of this with real wood stock, but of course it would weigh more and cost more, but hey, it would be cool. The included scope is more of a toy, but it does work for backyard plinking. I prefer to use pellets for greater accuracy, but BBs are just as good for plinking. This is not a Red Ryder folks; fully pumped it is 3 times the power of a Red Ryder and can be dangerous if not handled properly. Be safe out there.
I absolutely agree with your thoughts on this subject. My dad and brothers are 30 cal. fans. For me it's always been a. 270 . I enjoy shooting new cartridges but I'll stick with my tried and true.
I have a dear friend that will not part with his Ruger 77 in .243! 100 grain Federal Fusion soft point taking big bucks out to 200-250 yards! I like my Rem 700 in .308! Works for me. Great video!
As always Ron, you are spot on. I so enjoy all of the videos that you do. I've followed you for years and as usual, you definitely deliver. Thank you for all that you do. It really IS appreciated!!!
You cannot beat the .270! Hands down the absolute best
Great information as always thank you for helping keep us informed, trained, and helping us all with our questions along with your dedication to keep us informed and uptodated
I agree! And Ron you always provide quality content and I gained alot of knowledge over the last 2 years by following your videos and understanding the fundamentals from each video that you upload.
It's the 30-06 in the Remington 700 and that's the truth. The very best deer rifle ever made. I've got a lot of rifles and it's the only one that I can really say that has been responsible for a long time and you can't beat this rig for deer.
The newer Remington 700s feel so cheaply made. Now the older 700s pre 2003 are the real deal.
Great campfire conversation right here in our homes, via. the internet, relaxed, drinking and munching down, enjoying listening to Ron's take and reading everyone's response to the a topic just as a discussion that would be talked in the field or around a camp fire, just plumb darn informational talking bout one of the things we can all agree about in some form or another, and that is rifles and the cartridges we feed'm.
This guy is the best presenter I've come across when it comes to concise delivery of pertinent information in anything but boring dialog. I'm a gun owner, not yet a hunter, who has an ancient Winchester 64 30 30 which I run through the paces at the range a couple times a year. At 65 I'm thinking seriously of taking up some deer hunting on mixed woodland, small meadow family land in East Tennessee. I've learned much from this gentleman but also have found considerable encouragement in watching these videos. Definite thumbs up and subscribe.
Thanks Ron!
A quality video that speaks volumes of truth. So refreshing to hear that you don't need the newest, latest and greatest. Thanks Ron.
I have used the same rifle for 20 years. 30-06 use 180 grain. Even with a bad shot I have found my deer. Big bullet. Lots of power. In the hard woods of VA
Amen brother!
I am a hardcore 270 man, thanks to my dad lol, but your point is right on target, all (legal) deer rifles are deadly, as long as the owner learns how to use them. Great video!
Your definitely full of it, good advice and great content! I've found your channel to be very informative and entertaining. Thank you for providing valuable information, it really helps when I'm thinking about getting a new caliber rifle I'm not familiar with. Thanks again 👍
👍👍. so yet again its the hunter/shooter , me , learning how to use the equipment i already have as effectively/accurately as possible that makes it the deadliest..
somehow before i even clicked in the vid i knew that would be the wisdom you'd be dropping on us
Up here in Canada, lots of big game have been taken over the years using the 303 British, mill surplus Enfield were everywhere.. Most young hunters took there first animal with them..
Yes, I know a retired policeman who shot several moose over the years with a 303 Lee Enfield.
.303 worked Ok for whatever people used it for, for a long long time, you could trust it now…
America's Hat!
Darn right! .303 will go get them where they hide. It killed a lot of deer and moose, in Canada, up here in the dirtiest bush that you can imagine, but not as many as people it killed...
My first hunting rifle not counting my 22LR was a 303 Enfield gifted to me by my grandpa
Ron; Lots of wisdom in your words. Having grown up in Deer Country In Alabama Im quite familiar with most of the Calibers youve spotlighted. My first rifle was a .250 Savage. Im left handed and my Dad owned it and the cheek rest was on the opposite side. I swapped it for a 308 Norma Mag which kicked like a rented mule. Then I settled on a 243 custom rifle made for me and for years and years, the 243 served me well. Took a ton of deer with that caliber. 25 years ago, my youngest son worked with a guy who owned a Remington 700 in a .270 caliber and It was left handed. New rifle but he didnt like the recoil. So, I swapped my 243 for it. Best trade I ever made. In my opinion that rifle performs for me in every situation. Ive taken deer as far as 259 yards. Not a long, long shot but out there none the less. Im so confident in my rifle that I rarely aim for the sholder. Base of the neck is my desired target and my .270 does it nicely. My choice of ammo is made by Hornady in a 130 grain. Ive gone through nearly 2 boxes of shells with 1 shot kills on bucks. No does. I have 1 round left before im willing to open that last box I got for Christmas 4 years ago. I may never be able to since costs of club memberships has become cost prohibitive for old soldiers like myself and at 70 I struggle to be comfortable on cold days for lengths of time. as I look back at 60 years of hunting Im so blessed. Met salt of the earth hunters along the way. many no longer here but there are a few around. Love telling old hunting stories. Havent lost my sense of humor and still enjoy a good smothered gravy deer steak occassionally. Hunting is truly an American story. Ive traveled the world as a professional soldier and met many. We enjoy this freedom we call hunting which cannot be said of many other countries. We are unique. Enjoyed your video.
My old .270 has taken many deer and a couple of antelope. I love this rifle, ruger m77 my grandfather gave my in 1996.
Excellent presentation Ron! Exactly on point I am a rifle addict myself so I use a little of everything. I have discovered that caliber and rifle type really don't matter but what does matter is how familiar you are with it and how quickly you can make an accurate shot. That is by far more important than what you carry. So put more than just a few rounds downrange every year with your deer rifle and you will keep your shirt tail.
I still feel like the .270 closely followed by the 30-06 are the best all around calibers money can buy when all factors are considered such as price, performance, ammo cost, ammo availability, recoil, and versatility. That's just my opinion which don't mean shit, but I sure love my .270.
The .270 was invented for wife beaters who can't handle any of the 30 cal's. Sad but true.
270 is a good gun I have one I like my .308 and my brother's .243 and that old 270 I got when I was 13. I've taken the most deer with that .243 though.
@@jamesparlane9289 there’s one in every crowd🙄
Your opinion is valuable, Jack. Parlane, OTOH, not so much.
Ordered hammer bullets and barnes tsx. I am a fan of the copper bullets. Trying to fune tune my tikka 270. Wish they would put the 24 inch barrel and a faster twist rate.
Loved the video! Thanks, Ron!
I don't know which one is the deadliest
But I've heard nothing but praise from those who hunt with a 243 win
Had a lot of success with243 not lost one yet
Magnificent video rooted in wisdom and knowledge. Ron, thank you for your professionalism and courtesy.
Thank you, Mike.
I am giving this video a thumbs up before it even premiers. Ron always makes great content.
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Proverbs 18:13 KJV
@@honestandyouhateit972 Save the preaching for church dude. Its just a video and a guy making a comment. He loves Ron Spomer. Not a Biblical matter
@@vdog4799 do anything you want. But everything is a matter to be judged by God (we all have to answer for every word spoken). And it's simply wisdom. You must not have a state or standing with the Creator. I wasn't being rude but you thought it a good idea to correct me...
@@honestandyouhateit972 well it sounded dumb. I'm sure the guy will be judged for a you tube post of this nature. I only hope Christ will forgive him!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video. Your right on point with this conversation. I've played around with wild cat cartridges. Found my self back to the Classics. 30/30 , 243 , 30-06 , just recently pick up 7mm remington mag . When I was a kid I started out with 30/30 one I still have today moved up to 30-06 . Found my self back to 30-06 its became my old favorite. Great video.
Great video and I agree with you 100%. I've got a number of rifles in deer calibers, but my favorite is a 270 Win that was the first rifle I ever bought and I don't miss very often. It's funny, I hunt with guys who use 300 Win Mags and they kid me that my 270 isn't enough gun, but I shoot as many deer as they do, and I take few shots. Hmmm. Like you said if you're comfortable with a rifle and it consistently makes good, clean kills, that's your perfect deer rifle.
Well, once again you hit the nail on the head with this video. I completely agree.
Excellent video. I have a safe full of rifles due to me going through all the different "phases" of evolution : magnums, long range tactical set ups, only to end up back where I started. I now gravitate to my wood a stocked fudd caliber rifles (270, 30-06) because they just feel right and remind me of my youth, plus they just work.
Lol, I agree too.... not many callibers I don't have!
Main hunting rifles:
.22 hornet-- back yard rifle as it's quiet.
243 (that's the newest one, been using it for 25 years)
30-06 (browning BAR)
375 Remington Ultra Mag (elk)
I have at last count 170+ guns (no b.s.) and those I gravitate to thr most.
Though excited about playing with the new 22-250Z (I picked 3 up on the past few year). And my brand new 25-06.... have high expectations for those! - winter is finally here, I can have the time off work to go shoot.
@t luddite 1 size fits all??
My dad killed HUNDREDS of deer with his single shot, iron sight. 22 too. My brother tool plenty as a kid with the ruger 10-22 ....
I also saw a couple BIG Bucks run away with .22 holes in their heads.
I saw a MONSTER mule buck get shot at point blank in the head with a .22 mag (the bullets made him sick, but didn't die- knife finished him). I put 3 .357 mag 158 SOLIDS into another mule buck ls head, NONE dropped him. #4 in the ear knocked him out (knife finished him). I took 1 bug buck at 100' with a .357 revolver (clean through his lungs).
I had a neighbor THROW a rock at a doe, and hit her in the head, knocked her out. (She got up and ran off in a few minutes) knife could finished her. A buddy took a cow elk at 200 yards with a 22 mag and a flashlight, ge thought it was a deer, hit the cow in the eye ball. - lights out.
What works for you, doesn't work for me. 2 months ago, I shot my buck at 540 yards (a HONEST 540 YARDS). Down hill, I aimed 18" over his back, took the bottom of his heart. -- your NOT doing that with a scatter gun, or a bow. - at the time, I was thinking, this is too far, I shouldn't be taking this shot, but, bucks are hard to find.... so I took the shot, no wind- thank God!
Different guns have their place, a .22 has NO PLACE killing deer! (.204 ruger and .17 hmr) NO PLACE killing deer. Smallest gun to kill deer with .22 Hornet with 60 grain nosler partition.
But, I do have a serious question! Grampa said if you use a shotgun to kill deer, shoot their legs out from under them. - 2 or 3 legs gone, they can't run. -- is that how you do it? Or you a slug man? (I drew a shotgun tag- plan on taking my 10 gauge pump). - I don't want to see a deer, (buck or doe) run off to die of infection. Thanks
@@tluddite2640 I never said that rifles are required to kill a deer. But our conversation topic was about our favorite rifle calibers. So I’m not sure why you are preaching to us about how uninformed we are for enjoying a variety of rifles. Hope you feel better since you have informed us about how ignorant we are.
I couldn't have said it better Ron. You nailed it.
Great video as always !!! Love me some Ron Spomer !!! 🙌🏽👍🏽
‘Beware the man with one gun.’ Great video Ron as always. Thanks for sharing!
Old wives tale.
You’re right. The key is to know your rifle. I use a 30-30 and a 243. They both behave very differently but can both reliably bring the deer to the freezer.
Confidence in your rifle and ammo is paramount. I’ve been using the same squirrel rifle (cz452 lr) for a good 20 years. I’ve spent big money on Anschutz and Kimber, but I just love my CZ. It took awhile but I settled on a Tikka 308 as my deer/hog rifle. They are comfortable, lightweight and accurate. The fact that I know where that bullet is going to hit at a given distance is everything. Knowing I have a match grade trigger is everything. I hate having to take up creep in a trigger.
Years ago, I read an article written by a guide with decades of experience. He said that he has seen the very best typical setups perform terribly, and he has seen what a lot of people consider terrible setups perform flawlessly. He said that what makes the difference and is the most important factor is the marriage between the hunter and his gun. He said that is far more important than all of the fancy equipment in the world.
25-06 will do the job extremely well, mild recoil flat trajectory, plenty of bullet weight for deer size game.
It's what I've been using for yrs
25/06 is very hard to beat no doubt. Great deer cartridge.
@@andrewcleveland
~I agree, someone compared the 6.5 Creedmore to the 25-06 in a review. The 25-06 won as superior but it still needs better bullets and a better rifling twist rate it concluded.
@@royjohnson465 I’m a big fan of the 260, 6.5x55, and 6.5 CM. But I agree with you. At any sane hunting ranges the 25/06 is flatter shooting. The 6.5’s are great rounds and I love them dearly, and I’ve killed a lot of deer with them. But I mainly enjoy them as target rifles these days. If the factory would give the 25/06 a faster twist, and more high BC bullets more people would realize how great the 25/06 is. But at any sane ranges it is already a great performer for a hunting cartridge.
Inside of 300 - 400 yrds I see nothing out there better than an 25-06.
Ron, you nailed it. I love all of my guns. That’s why I own them. From my 22 LR to my 338 win mag and all of them in between. But the one I keep going back to is the one I’ve had for so long. I’ve shot it the most and it just lays deer down. The 7mm magnum. Just a great round. Living the the foothills of the Appalachian mountains of north ga, I don’t always get to use the potential reach of the gun but when I have needed it for those long range shots it has worked perfectly. Because I know the gun. I know the drops. I’ve regularly shot it out to 400 yards and it’s the gun I’ve taken the most deer with. No matter what you own. Use it, practice with it and it will work.
If we talk 7mm mag then you need to try .25-06, It will perform like a 7mm mag but does it with half a cup less powder per shot. In a Mauser 98 action preferred, 4 pwr Redfield or Leupold.
@@gymshoe9235 Agreed! I've been shooting .25-06 for 5 or 6 years now and have killed probably 20 deer with the caliber. Loaded with 115gr Nosler Partitions, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a mule deer with it (If I ever get the opportunity lol).
Spomer,
your videos are so well done....and you always put a grin on my face!
excellent content!
sage wisdom arguably.... unarguable 😉
Matt Delia
Great video - philosophical approach is well articulated for sure !
We’ll said Ron, as always. The best Deer rifle is the one your most comfortable and confident with. For me it’s the Pre ‘64 M70 in .264 WM that I grew up shooting with my Grandfather. It’s taken many Muleys from that man’s shoulder, and is now my go to rifle for chasing Muleys in the backcountry of Idaho. Keep up the great content 👍
You have enviable opportunity and rifle choice. Cherish them always, my friend😉
Outstanding! Confidence is huge. Practice is everything. Save your 2 liters, etc. Fill them up with water set them up at various distances and have fun. Pick up you trash when done.
I’m in the use modern ammo in a .243 and spend a lot of time shooting in the off-season camp. Great content Ron!
An absolutely great channel, the Bob Ross of the hunting world
I ❤️ @Rob Spomer Outdoors’ agenda.
As always, great informative video sir!
Such a great video! You can learn so much without being told exactly what to do.
I have a 30-30, a .243, .308 and an 06. I have load when range is short, I can load lighter bullets with less recoil, I can load 30-06 ammo that will flirt with 300 winmag velocities if not meet them. My favorite lever actions to take deer hunting is a .357 or a .44 mag Marlin. If it might stretch into more than 100 yards, I carry the 30-30, if it may stretch beyond 150 yards, the 06 or .308. I enjoyed the video and it does make me think. I have a friend in Texas who has a wall full of monster white tail and mule deer antlers. I asked him what kind of rifle he was using and he brought out an ancient Model 94 Winchester in .32 Win Special. It had a peep tang sight and he had marks on the sight for different yardages out to about 500 yards. The old fella was a crackshot.
I'll agree 💯 percent... If you can shoot it well... You like it... Gets the job done... Be happy with it.... Thank You again. Great Video
I've been using my 700 / 30/06 for 35 years and have taken a lot of deer over 200 yard and love it
Another good source of information thank you Ron
Love your content Ron. Great effort
Exactly the answer I was expecting. My Rem 742 30-06 is my go to since its the only hunting rifle I own. With a couple of deer and elk taken with it I'm pretty sure its the deadliest rifle for me.
Excellent video - well said, logical, and a conclusion so true. When I look back at over 60 years of deer hunting (with an assortment of rifles and calibers including the 6.5CM) my “go to” deer rifle is still an old rifle that I originally bought in the 70’s - chambered in 7x57 Mauser; my vote for the deadliest deer caliber (only because I practice with this caliber and shoot it well).
Was going to say the same thing. Flat, accurate and deadly
But not popular enough in the US
Your analysis is awesome. 👍 Love to listen to you.
Sorry to see you didn’t consider the.270, excellent for whitetails anywhere in the US but also enough gun for western mule deer when shots might be anywhere from 50 to 500 yards.
Spot on Ron - the perfect gun is the one you are comfortable with - enough said!!!!!!
270 130 grain
i really enjoy listening to you talk about guns I'm 69 years old I've loved guns since i was a kid had family members who owned guns i would walk with them when they went hunting it was always exciting to see if they got any game that usually meant meat on the table at the hands of my grandma the worlds greatest cook in my opinion i dont own many guns yet but looking to acquire a few love your knowledge of guns thanks so much you remind me of family i like that keep up the work
I have a friend who has his Dad's long ago sporterized Brit 303. I am 60 and my friend has used that rifle his entire life, still using it. He is an excellent shot and definitely keeps the freezer full with the antique 6 power Redfield scope on top. I have a beat up pawn store Win 70 in 30-06 with a new Vortex 3-9 power scope. It shoots 3/4" at 100. Not too impressive but it works if I aim properly, and do not get buck fever. It is not a pretty new gun but it delivers every time, for deer, hogs, coyotes, elk, etc. Ron, you are so spot on. Use the tool that has been getting it done for you over time consistently. Ammo is an issue these days so if I switch guns it will be ammo driven issue. Can't get components for my pet load reliably so it might get dicey in the future.
I've tried a bunch of cartridges but I settled on the 30 06 as my favorite deer cartridge.
never seen a 1000 lb deer but OK
@@hotramen5952 I haven't either that's completely irrelevant.
@@RickNethery seems like a mighty big chambering for a dedicated deer rifle.
@@hotramen5952 Not really, I honestly can't tell much difference between a deer shot with a 30 30 , 243, 270 or 30 06, wounds are similar depending on distance. Kinda reminds me of someone who thinks you shouldn't have a V8 because the speed limit is so low. 🙃
@@RickNethery exactly, i cant tell the difference between a deer shot with the .243 or the .30-06 either. thanks for making my point for me.
My perfect short to medium range rifle cartridge is a .308. A great medium to long range cartridge in a rifle is a 7mm rem mag for deer, antelope, and all the way to elk.
308 is fine long range son
@@riverside321 308 isn not long range hunting, ni el 270 lo es
7MM Weatherby magnum has better ballistics. I know you can find 7 mm Rem Mag just about anywhere. The rifles Cost less but there's nothing like a Weatherby Mark 5.
Eastern hardwood and thicket hunting here! My new favorite is the. 350 legend 180grain Winchester. Really stacking up the white tail with it last couple of years! Thanks Ron!
Don, my “go to” caliber is a 257 Roberts with 100 grain Nosler Partition bullet. Fun to shoot and has been very effective on our whitetails, both here and south of our border. That caliber has made a believer out of me.
Wise man. Totally agree with you. Greetings from Portugal.
Great video Ron! I’ve always thought whatever cartridge a person shoots best will make them more successful deer hunter. While I love deer hunting with my African cartridges which are 416’s and 9.3x62, I’ve had tremendous success with smaller cartridges. I’ve also taken a lot deer with 7x57, 30/06, 260 rem, 6.5x55, 6.5 CM, and 270 Winchester, and 7 rem mag. If someone puts a good hunting bullet where it’s supposed to go, they will have success.
I’m with ya, man. So long as there is reasonable killing power, bullet upset and penetration I’ll use anything that suits my fancy on deer. The biggest I’ve used are 375 H&H and 45-70. The 375 to me doesn’t kick any harder than a 12ga 3” 2oz turkey load. And a combo that I miss is 223 Rem with the old 55gr Bear Claw. It’s performance on deer was really surprisingly effective for such a little cartridge.
@@robertfree1908 absolutely agree. That 375 H&H is fantastic, and like you said if someone can handle a turkey load they can handle the 375. I really need to add a 375 myself. Both of my brothers had them, so instead I went 416 Remington and 416 Taylor improved just to be different lol.
@@andrewcleveland there are quite a few desirable 416s but the one I’d like to have the most is the Taylor(non-improved for slicker feeding. And I just like the looks of the Winchester/Norma short, belted mag). I’m sure with today’s powders 2350fps is possible in a 22” bbl. Maybe even 24. PowerPro2000MR might do it. Even if they’re 2” groups that’d be fine with me for the extra power and the shorter ranges I’d be using it
@@andrewcleveland with 400gr bullets of coarse
@@robertfree1908 my Taylor imp is 24” tube and Taylor load data is pretty sparse, and a friend with quick load is very helpful lol. I easily ran 400’s to 2450 fps I believe it was. The 350 Speer Hot cor I ran to 2610 fps which was pretty hot but devastating on game. Apparently not to hot though I’m still using that brass with 9 reloads on them. Currently though been running the 300 tsx at 2640 fps. My 416 Remington I run 340 woodleigh pp at 2668 fps currently. If I had a standard Taylor and went to Africa I would load 400’s at 2350, and that’s very doable in 24” tube. I hit those speeds with 400’s before I ever even hit the old max book loads from the 1970’s. And using the old powders from that data also. You would be hard pressed to find a more reloader friendly big bore than the 416 Taylor. Only problem is finding correct head stamp brass if the African country requires it to match the caliber listed on the rifle. If that’s not an issue, then I’m made brass from 338 win mag, and super easy to reform 458 win mag. I do have 100 cases of Taylor head stamped Norma brass, but I’m afraid they prolly don’t make that any more.
I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
thanks ! for ypur point overview i was enlighten pertaining the accuracy of different rifles with the different cartridges........keep up the great work............
Brno fox in 222 has never lost a deer, neck shots every time that little shooter fits like a glove and shoots like a laser.
Thanks for another great, entertaining video, Ron. Imo “the world’s deadliest deer rifle” is just whatever I have in my hands while hunting em. It’s not the car. It’s the driver😉
In the midlands of Pennsylvania the woods are quite thick so you can't usually see more that 70 yards in any direction. Because of this, I always used a Marlin 1894 in .44 magnum. At that range that cartridge is sufficient for a clean kill.
Same here in the mountains of VA. Ruger 44 semi auto carbine
Great Job!
Well said! I really enjoyed this video! Thx!
First deer was harvested with a 300 savage second was with the 30 30. Got upgraded to a 3006 for a few years and traded that for a 338 win mag and also just a few years ago purchased a 257 weatherby.... this year a mint beauty of a 2506 in a 700 heavy barrel bdl which I'll try on a deer this year. Out of them guns can't really tell ya which one was the best lol all the deer i shot in saskatchewan died some in their tracks some took a few steps none made it past 20 steps. Though 30 years with a 338 i discovered from deer to moose with a 250 nosler just aim for the heat and lungs lol doesn't matter how the animals body position is it will push through the heart and lungs and anything in between😁 thanks Ron for another great video👍
This is the most honest, open minded, and friendly discussion on rifle/caliber I have seen on TH-cam
I always get asked by friends as the “gun guy” what should they buy, what caliber, what gear. I appreciate when people come to me for that advice. My answer is right along yours and if they don’t have that much experience my go to is invite them to the range and try my different guns and calibers. Experience and what fits you is ultimately better then being sold on something you will regret.
Great video. I enjoyed it!
So true--Ron!!😊
I have 3 of the rifles you mentioned in this video. One is a 30-30 I inherited from my grandfather and he harvested many deer with that gun. They all do what they were designed to do, but yes the recoil with two of them is much more then the 30-30. With practice and understanding of your capabilities should be a factor as well when choosing which one you hunt with. With the hunting in my state being done in mostly wooded areas the distance is not a issue as most of my shots have come with in 100-150 and a far as 200 yard.
Lucky you, brother!! My late!grandfather also had the Win 94” .30-30, that he would travel w/ as a “checked-in-luggage”item, every summer to Portugal, during the pre-911 days of airline travel (mid-late 90’s when I was kid). Upon him retiring from union/Teamsters local, every summer, primarily in late June when I was on summer vacation, it was second nature for us to have packed as the “truck/SUV gun” for wild boar in Portugal’s summer-time, then ready for NJ, NY, or PA deer the following fall and winter. That, along w/ what I remember to be either a Baikal or Savage 24 model, “combination” rifle/shotgun, double barrel, as well as a Franchi (w/ a Spas-12-“like” stock, but not an official Spas-12 😂)were the usual sidekicks. Not a huge collection, but basically purchased and used for intended purpose, while heavily maintained. Unfortunately all are gone, w/ the .30-30 being destroyed and 2 shotguns sold/turned in at “police turn in eventsbby my naive uncle out of “legal-paranoia,” from believing the wrong news/source. I could have basically had it registered in my name as a heirloom. Out of all 3, that .30-30 hurts me to think of to this day!! 😢
Such GOOD advice! For awhile I was thinking I should “upgrade” to a modern caliber, but finally realized I didn’t need to that, but just be content with what I have (30-06, and .243) and improve my skill with them. By the way, I just shot a large bull muskox this past week with my 30-06 Wthrby Vanguard!!!
Trade them in for a better grade rifle in 280rem/280ai & do even better.
Perfectly said Ron: "If you like the rifle and the cartridge, and you learn to shoot it well - and you become a hunter - you've got the perfect deer hunting rifle" (and for me it's the 30/06 that I learned to shoot since I was 9yrs of age. 😉👍).
I agree it's whatever you like. I have virtually every caliber that's available and I'm gonna say, I'm a huge fan of the 308 with 150 grain bullets. Never have lost one with it. They seem to drop in their footsteps if they do go they never go more than 10 yards.
308 is a awesome rifle.
25-06 is deadly
Thank you for sharing your knowledge good sir, I really enjoyed watching this.
That makes a lkot of sense, Ron. Thanks!
I have a .375 H&H because I like it and enjoy the historic nature of it. I happened to use it on my last two deer and it works fine. First one dropped dead, second one ran 40ish yards. Both double lung hits.
Pretty much on par with any other deer cartridge.
Whitetail do no get the credit they deserve in toughness. I hit a doe this season with my .30-06 at about 50 yds; i shot, she looked up, casually walked about 40yds, then dropped. I thought i missed she was so calm. Upon cleaning her up it was clean lung.