How to Build a Ford 302 Small Block - Part 5: Timing Set, Cover, Water Pump, Crankshaft Damper
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- Today we continuing our @SummitRacing sponsored How to Build a Ford 302 Windsor series step by step. In this video we show EXACTLY how to put on your timing set, timing cover, water pump and, crankshaft damper. This video was a lot of fun to make so I hope you all enjoy! If you have any questions please leave them below and I will do my best to get to it.
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Timing Set Bolt: www.summitraci...
Timing Cover: www.summitraci...
Timing Cover Gasket Set: www.summitraci...
Bearing Race and Seal Driver Set: www.summitraci...
Timing Cover Dowel Pins: www.summitraci...
Timing Cover Bolts (I believe these will work with the timing cover, double check length): www.summitraci...
Water Pump: www.summitraci...
Internally Balanced Harmonic Damper: www.summitraci...
Damper Bolt: www.summitraci...
Harmonic Balancer Puller and Installer Tool: www.summitraci...
Permatex Ultra-Slick: www.summitraci...
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CORRECTION!: The torque spec for the ARP damper bolt is 120 Ft Lbs, 90 is for the stock bolt.
Thats right ! I just installed the exact same bolt on a 393W.
Hey you guys if using original dampened clean the area that the oil seal contacts with emery cloth so nothing damages seal lip
Thanks for the great series of videos. I’m about halfway through with a 1982 stock rebuild. Just a comment for some others to be careful not to install the crankshaft sprocket by itself first IF you are using the long dowel with a one piece eccentric on the front of the cam sprocket. If you do place the lower sprocket on first you will never be able to put the upper gear over that long dowel with the chain wrapped around the lower sprocket at the same time like he did in the video.
Man this series is gold. just about to start my first engine build ever which is also a 347. will be referring to this series for sure!
Very cool! Let me know how it goes. Thanks for watching!
im doing the same thing with my 302 im refreshing out of my 79 f150, this guy explains it super well
Hi... I really needed a re-fresher on this. I aquired a very low mile miles 5.0L Explorer engine complete from a wrecker...I dismantled it then life happened and I am just now getting back to it. Its amazing the small details I had forgotten. Your re-assembly vids are the best out there ! Many thanks.
Thanks very much for watching David!
Clean job, only thing I recommend is to install the damper first for centering purposes before torquing down the timing cover.
Not a bad way to go but honestly if it matches flat on the bottom you should be good if the front plate is made correctly. Thanks for watching!
Love the Chevy style water pump. Had to change one on an 84 Grand Marquis and I'm pretty sure Ford hung the water pump on a chain and built the car around it. My 79 Firebird on the other hand with a Chevy 305 got changed out in about 30 minutes on the side of a busy road at Ole Miss.
Thanks for doing this. You made me happy and now I feel like I can knock this out myself! Great content
Thanks for watching you got this!
Bad boy, toasty, perfect, wonderful, alrighty then, awesome, he doesn’t miss any of the old-fashioned cheesy phrases
Okay?
Awesome video. I may be building a 347 in the near future here.
Right on! You got this!
Doug here is good info on building a 347 stroker!
Great series, very informative. I am currently building a 347 striker myself, You had a lot more machining done than I was planning on doing but I like wha you have done. I am curious about what your machine bill is roughly. I know it will be different everywhere but I’m just trying to figure my own budget. Thanks again.
Why not do RTV on both sides of the gasket for water channels instead of contact cement on one side and RTV only on one side?
I've never seen contact cement used on gaskets. It's a good tip! Is that permatex contact, like the stuff used for weather stripping? This series is the refresher I needed, thank you!!
Very nice, thank you
Thank you too!
So, question. Why didn’t you use thread sealant on the bolts that go into the water jackets?
The damper defines the final position of the timing cover. It should be installed before tightening the cover bolts
Two questions.
1. If we were just rebuilding a stock 302, when you installed the electric water pump, is that the time we would install the regular water pump?
And 2. If I purchase that particular damper you have, do I have to buy other parts to go along with it? Or would I be better off buying a regular OEM style damper? I’m doing a base rebuild.
What "contact cement" spray are you using on one side of the gaskets? I have previously used the copper gasket spray, and am wondering which of these two would likely make the most leak-proof seal?
3m trim adhesive.
I like how you show to soak you're timing chain, i do the same. Makes me cringe when people put dry timing chains in.
He really said cream puff
Yep.
He loves using the words "bad boy".
I do. Thanks for watching this bad boy!
@@2carpros Awesome video
OMG I probably won't make it though this whole series hearing that every 2 min 🤢
Never put steel washers against an aluminum surface. Galvanic corrosion.
@2carpros Hello. Where did you find the thrust bearing that goes on the cam sprocket. I’m doing a 347 build also with an 81 302 block, have the same timing chain set up but no thrust bearing?? Thanks!😮
Noticing you never checked for cam endplay? I’m installing the same timing set (based in this video recommendation). Noticing there is zero endplay as compared to the factory single cam sprocket, which has some endplay. Curious if yours had any play at all….
What brand of contact cement are you using for gaskets?
How did you decide which style/length woodruff key to install and how does it get installed.
302 roller from explorer 99. The timing chain on a doublenroller bottom gear almost touches the block. Is that normal?
Can anyone send me the link for the freeze plugs? I didn’t see the link for them in the video!
Thanks!
I wonder if my old mans truck has one of these Windsor’s in it?
Hey Ryan or fellow moderators of this account. I’ve been following your guides for a few months now in the process of building a 302. I have a quick question, I’ve done plenty of research and have heard so many different things and want to get your opinion. I plan on getting a lightweight flywheel maybe 15 pounds or so. The counter weight stuff has confused me with the damper. So my question is if I were to run a lightweight flywheel. What kind of damper should I use? I was reading about the 28 oz and a 50 oz. My block and rotating assembly are from a 72. Thanks!
Hey there thank you so much for watching! Just make sure you get an internally balanced crankshaft, damper, and flywheel for integrally balanced cranks and you should be made in the shade. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask, I try to get to all of them but we get a lot of comments lol
Hey...GREAT VIDEO...question...would the reason for the longer dowel in the end of the camshaft be for a fuel pump eccentric? And the shorter one be for if you were to be running an electric fuel pump? Thanks!!
Thanks so much for watching! Yeah that is a good point. I want to say that is likely. We were never going to run one so I didn't even consider it. Just thought maybe different timing sets were thicker.
I’m in the middle of a rebuild and the answer is that the long dowel typically is for the one piece eccentric while the short dowel would be for a two-piece eccentric because it has a tab that goes inward. I also discovered that you cannot put the smaller crankshaft sprocket on first if you’re using the long dowel. You have to put them on at the same time with the chain already lined up on each of them.
Nice series, thank you. What are you using for the contact cement?
Thanks for watching Robert. It's loctite spray contact cement.
@@2carpros Gotcha, thanks!
@@2carprosis the purpose of using that just to keep the gasket from moving as you install parts?
Why did you put sealant on the gasket to the block but then put RTV on the timing cover to the gasket? Why not put sealant on both?
You could. I just think it needs RTV more on the less flat side and not so much on the cover side but nothing stopping you from using RTV on both. Thanks for watching!
ok
Shouldn’t there be thread sealant on the bolts that go into the cooling water jacket?
We did that's what the silicone is for. Thanks for watching!
When you line up the timing marks is it nessesary for the number one cylinder to be on tdc? Thats assuming the key would be straight up at tdc.
Yep you got it. Thanks for watching!
Curious why the engine in the background, on the ground is chained to the table? ;)
Because it makes so much power it will run away! Nah, I just don't want it to disappear, I have a lot in it. Thanks for watching!
How to install the timing chain on a ford fairlane y block
It would basically be like this. Thanks for watching!
What was the name of the bearing that you placed on the back of the cam timing gear?
That is a cam gear thrust bearing. Thanks for watching!
@@2carpros on my 79 F150 302, my cam thrust bearing is attached to the block. It also keep the cam in the block.
Wondering that myself. Got cam walk on my 302 roller block and trying to figure out if this bearing was supposed to be between the cam and the thrust plate or just comes with some of the timing sets sold. My cam thrust plate wore down causing the cam walk issue.
Very informative video, however the constant upward inflection in your voice after almost every word is extremely annoying. You sound like you're encouraging good behaviour from an infant.
I am how the creator made me. Thanks for watching!