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- Hey whats up y'all, I'm just going over a few details on how to install a timing chain on the new F303 camshaft in our beloved 302 motors. Enjoy.
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Keep making videos you explain things perfectly!!
120 inch lbs = 10 ft lbs
Great video, love that you give the torque specs. A lot of people overlook torque values, I can say I would trust your work.
Had to pull the water pump on my 89 Bronco and of course bolts broke. After getting the timing cover off noticed a lot of slop in the chain. Been 15 or so years since I did one and your video has to be the best one I found. Thank you so much for posting this.
Mith Besler no problem man! Glad i can help
This guy is excellent in terms of instructional videos. Great job on the video. You've earned my like and subscription.
Here en England there’s basically zero support, info or help. This series of videos is the best and only help I will need man, thanks so much
I have been doing a lot of my own mechanical work for a while but this is my first Head/Cam swap so I watched a few videos some not detailed enough like LMR' and some so long winded I felt like I just watched paint dry. Yours was perfect, I appreciate it.
Thank you! I've never changed a timing chain before and this answered all my questions and shared some great pro tips. I think I'm binge-watch you stuff!
God bless man. I’m over here second guessing myself about the simple stuff. But, it’s my first engine build.
To anyone that puts a new timing chain and gears in a motor, soak you're chain in oil for hour. I NEVER put a dry chain on. The oil needs to soak into all the link pins. And make sure you put oil on you're new front seal also.
Hello my friend, thanks for the info, highly appreciated. Can you explain me how to put oil on the front seal. Thanks in advance, I am new to this, and I am about to install a new timing chain on a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8, 5.0 liters, thanks again.
Best channel on TH-cam for us ford 302 guys!
Man I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos ! Feeling confident about putting the e303 in my 5.0 myself!
Great Video, really appreciate how you take the time to show all the little details.
looking forward to MAYHEM!
This video helped me a lot while I was doing the timing gear on my 68’ Mustang. Thanks for the great video man!
i love the fact u actually make my day by repairs, like come on man u dont wanna put this old raggy chain and the chain all loose. im ssorry i laugh at things like that
You alright man ima keep watching
Thanks again always get a kick out of your builds, lots of info. and keeping it First On Race DAY "EVERYDAY"
Thanks for the great videos. I've followed along and have completed my short block. Videos are a good reference when I can't find a clear answer in my 5.0 manual
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Hello friend, the motor 302 is the same as a 5.0 liters, I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0, and I want to make sure I am doing the right thing, I need to change a timing chain on my car. Thanks in advance.
Great video- I like taking my time and going slow too.
Thank you brother! Been searching for a video like this for a few days before finally finding yours. Keep them wrenches turning junkyarddogg
thx man
Thank for the video...I always like to look and check before I proceed. Thanks for your effort.
And......That's how it's done. Great tutorial!
I know this video is older but just commenting on when you said you do it step by step slower..... honestly I really appreciate you taking the time to make these type of videos. Planning on building a motor for swapping into my s197 mustang this winter time. I'm gonna need to watch your videos for a bit of reference, cuz I'll have no idea what I'm doing 😂
Its all good man. Go forward my friend
Awesome video! I really like how you take the time to explain things
Nice demo . Keep up the good work
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I learned so much from you bro I appreciate it thanks for everything.
Best video on this ever!!! Thank you!!!!
Ur the man bro. Learning to work on my 87 mustang rn.
Thank you for making this video. Very helpful!
Outstanding video
This guy is a trip! Loved the vid.
I really like how you explain how thanks are I now more than some but not as much as most and I'm in the middle of doing the same project myself and my mustang just had a lifter fail and I'm looking forward to seeing you explain the valve train cause installing the rockers everyone explains it without the details I'm wondering about big ups to the junkyard Dogg!!!
Just found you yesterday. Great channel.
Good stuff man doing the timing chain change on 96 f150 its easy to do it now...
Hello my friend would you please tell me what size of motor do you have? I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8, 5.0 liters I hope it's the same as the one this guy is installing, thanks in advance. I need to change my timing chain, thanks again.
Nice video i learn something new
Ty for the instruction, we do like slow and explain.
Good work dude
Great video, quality info! Thanks man!
Awesome stuff Dawg! I am installing a e303 cam and going to advance it 4 degrees. The reason is to gain some power lower in the RPM range. It should start making power 400 - 600 RPM sooner than straight up.
Hello my friend, I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0 liters, is this the same motor as the one you are doing, my car stop running while was driving on the road and I think the timing chain went off the sprockets. Because it won't start, already changed the crank sensor and had no luck, any thoughts my friend i sincerely appreciate it, thanks.
After 5 years, how was your install, and did you have any technical difficulties or check engine lights from this?
This is an amazing video
on my sbf, I use a needle bearing for the thrust plate to reduce friction and a quality roller chain that contains high quality needle bearing roller links. don't cut corners here. it reduces friction. reduced friction equates to higher HP.
Thats good idea. It osnt good to cut corners anywhere tbh
Hello my friend, can you show me a picture of a needle bearing for the thrust plate, I am new to this, and I want to install a new timing chain on my 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8 5.0 liters, is my motor the same as this guy is showing in the video? Thanks in advance.
Hey bro I love your channel and thank you for making these videos!
Great videos! Keep them coming.
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Good stuff and thanks for video keep up the good work!!!
Boom! Great vid informative and funny 👌
Junkyard Dogg what's up bro like your videos keep it up.
I always put some assembly lube on the thrust plate so that it will have some lubrication on it until the engine oil gets there
Junkyarddoggz!!! Great video!!!
Give it a little love tap make sure it's in there. "That's what she said"
Also make sure you clean all the threaded holes with some brake parts cleaner or else the thread locker won't work.
If the block has not been cleaned in a hot tank
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Man I wish you’d do a selector shaft seal on a c4
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Great how to !
and make sure you slide the crank sproket on the rights way. I had mine backwards and my chain would bind when balancer was installed and I didnt have a clue.
TheSamplebridge yes for sure man good tip
Hello friend, thanks for the advice, I am new to this, I need to install a timing chain on a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8, 5.0 liters, can you please explain how is the right way, thanks in advance..
I do not know what you sayin - but i like the video
Lol
Best way to adjust stock rockers on gt40 heads
Use the shim kit for stick arms.
Thanks for your time on filming and your knowledge. I was wondering if you could help me I have a 95 Mustang that I am building right now with a 76m Turbonetics turbo. My question is what type of Cam would you install if it was your car I would like to have a mild idle so I would not have a hard time tuning at ldle. The car will have 60 lb injectors with a pro m calibrated Mass and will be tuning the car with moates quarterhorse
greart show how to do it for the dyi person to save a buck !!
Whats the part # for the kit? Changing out the water pump and decided to go ahead and knock this out too.. Pulling my engine to make life easier, putting new oil pan gasket.
Hello my friend, I want to ask you, it's possible to install a new oil pan without removing the engine from the car? Were you able to find the part number of the timing chain? I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8 5.0 liters, I need to install a new timing chain my car broke down on while was driving and it won't start, I think is the timing chain, do you think the process is the same my friend, I want to do it myself, to save money and learn at the same time, please let me know, so I can get the same part number, hope did worked for you. Thanks in advance.
There's a lot of information no one tells you about on your videos, like the oil passage on the cam plate. I'm going to have to watch your videos from the first.
I’m in the process of replacing the timing chain. How’s your engine running after your install?
Hey thanks for the excellent videos. Is it normal for the cam to have a little end play after the the cam thrust plate is installed ? Thanks Sam
Sam Scornaienchi yes it is normal. Thx for watching my man
yes probably 5 thousandths. check the assembly specs in book.
You adjust the end by using a large socket to knock the plug at the rear of the camshaft bore inward for less play,for more end play knock the front of the camshaft backwards.
Hello friend, I am new to this, on a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8, 5.0 liters, the process is the same? Can you help me understand this process, I need to install a new timing chain, but honestly I want to learn how to do it right the first time, as I know it's not easy as it looks, please explain me in more details how to adjust the cam properly, in advance, I sincerely appreciate it.
@@LuisMartinez-fr9gq dot to dot. Line up the cam gear with the gear on the crankshaft so each dot is facing each other.
When dots are in position , and you put everything back together , is it safe to fire it up , will they fire in order or is it not going to be synchronized with firing order
i would check your socket sizes should be 1/2 inch and 9/16😁
Will do.
Does this procedure works for the efi 5.8 engine while it’s still in the vehicle
You can but you have to remove the radiator
big guy, is it worth checking camshaft end play in the 302???
Hello, nice video. I think it was 2003 and I didn't use the internet or TH-cam for help. My question is, I did the timing chain kit on a 1986 Ford Bronco. I didn't know anything about marks that needed to be aligned. I just unbolted and took off and did the reverse to put back together. My Bronco started right up and ran fine for about 9 months until I traded it in for a new Ford F-150. Do you really need to align the marks? I did this with my Chevy Aveo, marks were aligned, but I destroyed my engine when it came time to start. What gives?
Hello my friend, wow I am curious about it also, if it's need it, were you able to find any answers? Sorry to heard that, let me know if you find anything in regards to aligning the dots, Thanks.
Hey man great video I saw your video and it's 👍 but when I took out my timing cover the dot on the bigger sprocket is at the top, any idea why that would be like that? I know it supposed to be on the bottom aligned with the dot on the smaller sprocket just like you showed it in your video
Hello my friend, I would like to ask you what did you do if the dot is on the top let's say at 12 o'clock. Please let me know I want to change my timing chain on a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8, 5.0 it's the same right as the guy is building on the video, many thanks in advance.
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Hello brother love the videos wondering I installed the same chain in a 302 on a 92 gt and I heard something pop I can tell the difference from when it’s a small backfire so I was wondering what kinda sound would i hear if the chain was rubbing block? Wondering if you ever heard that before I’m researching and can’t find it. Also I just bought this gt I know it has a aftermarket cam not sure which one but I was wondering if using the different key ways same as moving distributor?
There’s no mention of top dead center on the piston number 1… is that important?
Great video, but one thing, you prolly shoulda mentioned the eccentric goes on there if you have a mechanical fuel pump. Don't ask me how I know... :)
Timing...
Back in the day 4* advance was suppose to be the best for stock HO cam.
As a chain breaks-in the cam looses 2+* of timing. I've measured it.
I never knew if the 4 was to compensate for the wear, or an actual running amount desired.
If so, setting up a new set at 6* adv instead of straight up would be necessary.
Any info about this?
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BTW... installing a new set thus removing the 2.5* wear made a noticable improvement.
Usually 3,000 miles the wear was apparent.
Did you forget to mention that number 1 cylinder needs to be at TDC?
Hello friend, thanks for reminder that to him, I am in the process to install a timing chain and I did not know that cylinder one has to be at DTC, maybe you can help me how to set up the cylinder 1 with TDC, i am new to this, i need help my car broke down on me while I was driving.
How about the timing cover?
I'm hoping you can help me out here... I have an 87 Mustang GT my brother and I rebuilt the engine for. It's got heads/cam/ intake. I bought the same timing chain you have here. We put the motor together and the timing is running best at around thirty degrees, rather than the usual10-14 degrees. So, IMO, we lined up the wrong dots on the timing chain... does that sound like the problem to you? Our confusion is that the cam we have... a Lunati 51014 cam. It has 4 degrees built into the cam... so we struggle to figure out what marks to line up with this cam. Any advice?
It could be that you lined up the timing chain on the wrong stroke. But im a huge fan of...hows is it running? If its running strong not overheating, no ticking and bot leaning out i would leave it be. Im old school brotha.
@@JunkyardDoggs Thanks for the response, JD. That's kinda the same thing my dad said, as far as if we have it running well, let it ride. We still need to get some kinks worked out with it, and we are going to work on it some more in the coming days. If we can get it running well, we will leave it be, like you said.
Good video man. Thanks again for the advice!
If i want to advance my Cam 4 degree, i just hace to aligne the dot in the cam pulley with the Triangle? Or is more complicate than that?
Thats exactly right. If you have the type of timing chain with advance and retard markings thats how easy it can be
Thanks Bro
Why don't you pre lude the cam thrust plate?make sense doesn't it
I have the same engine. What does it mean when the crank moves up and down. The bearings?
Main bearings are toast my man
thanks bro.
after you line the dots up like u did how would i drop[ the dizzy properly ???? do i need to turn the motor?? and have the dots at 12 and 6 or what thanks man
No just wiggle it back and forth until it goes. Just dont force it with a hammer or nothing.
@@JunkyardDoggs so i got my dots lined up now i just drop the dizzy in??? i know how to put it in i just dont know what position etc. number 1s rockers are both facing down thats correct right. i just dont want 180 out
@@whistlingfacts713 doesnt matter how its dropped in as long as the TPI sensor is facing towards the ac compressor. Then be sure your #1 piston is at TDC and then were ever the pointer is located is where youll put your #1 spark plug wire. Then from there follow the firing order.
@@JunkyardDoggs blow my finger off the hole and turn to zero ???? for tdc correct??? or do i turn it to a diff number then 0. some say 10-20. what do u recommend thanks for all the help bro ur the man
@@whistlingfacts713 i stick a clean rag in the hole and turn the motor until it pops out.
What stage of these kind of cams is it possible to run on a stock head set up?
How do you turn the top part with the dowel? Mine is not aligned
Do you have to have the motor at tdc or anything when installing the timing chain?
Hello my friend, were you able to get any answers about alignment, I also need to know I am about to do my timing chain on a 1997 mercury mountaineer V-8, 5.0 but he does not explain that part, please help me if you know anything about it, also and how is done, thanks in advance..
So is this pretty much the same on a Ford ranger?
As long as its a gasoline engine it should be
How do you turn the top part to align it? I have my engine on the vehicle 95 mustang gt
Do you mean the cam? Use a bolt screwed in until it bottoms out. But it should be able to turn by hand fairly easily.
@@JunkyardDoggs I can't turn it by hand. Too damn hard. And will setting the gear to advanced instead of zero on a stock 302 engine cause any damage?
Dogg has no heads or valve train to turn. Cam only turns with one finger.
Hey man can u please answer my question ok I am not going to be running a egr smog pump in the purge canister will be gone I will just run a vent tube out the back of the gas tank! I am getting ready to swap 4cyl of my 87 notch I have the whole 89 V8 everything ok u no where ur o2 sensor plug runs down the right fender under neith the MAF harness my o2 harness is the 1 with the purple in yellow wire it's pinned for the t-5 the guy told me to cut where the o2 sensor plug off where u would plug it in all my shit is plug in play then he said to pin my o2 sensor in pin to the cumputer if I am plugging my o2 harness where it's supposed to be! On the 89 harness it has a plug with some kind of relay then ur maf then u have ur plug for the o2 sensor to plug in I am right just plug into my harness right I got a V8 head light for it u said u might have 1 but u never got back to me I try to ask u a few times about it I guess u was busy ! But I plug my o2 harness down in the right fender well right in front of the passenger side tire!if you can answer this man u well take a load of my mind! #JUNKYARDDOGSS##
You skipped the whole snapping the bolts flush with the water pump while removing it. Happened on 3 separate 5.0s. Ford you dropped the ball on this one. 20 year old, 5 inch long steel studs through an aluminum housing...
Omg yes bro! I used propane to heat it before attempting to remove them tho.
Why tubular front end? Because racecar!!
A little constructive criticism....CHANGE THE MUSIC!!! It actually comes close to drowning you out and sounds more like a porn flick than an instructional video. The content and step by step detailed instructions were on point, Easy to follow and great for someone like me who has never attempted anything like this until now. So kudos on that but seriously due something different with the background music. Less is more the ol saying goes.
where do you live
Agent 84 south central LA
How bout the fuel pump yo.
Thats a problem for early motors.
Advancing or retarding the timing has nothing to do with the compression what so ever and the last thing you need to do is take a hammer to the cam gear. It needs to be installed by hand so you know it has set in place correctly
no lube................... come on you know better
I only realized it after you guys said it but I did prime the motor before firing it up
When you started talking metric I stopped watching
Cool
WTF... adjustable wrench on the Crank?? I'll stick to the proper procedures for installing a new timing gearset.
granadojl lol soo u watch a video about something u already knows about? I guess the guys are LMR are wrong too.
+granadojl it's just so the crankshaft doesn't spin while he's tightening down the cam gear. Actually, I think using the crescent wrench this way is a lot better than using large channel locks on the crank pulley, like most people do.
What's a better way, if you don't mind me asking?
Great vid. If your Ford small block application needs to run a mechanical fuel pump, don’t forget to install the fuel pump eccentric that shares the same bolt as the cam sprocket bolt. And make sure if the timing chain set is compatible with a one or two piece eccentric.
Hello my friend, can I ask you a question, I can tell, you know what are you talking about, I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0 liters, V-8, do you think the procedure it's the same like this guy is showing on this video, i have a feeling my timing chain got loose inside and don't start anymore, as I was driving on the road and the car just caught off on me, and it won't start anymore, at first I thought it was a crank sensor I saw no spark at the coilpacks, I replaced it and no luck, so I think the timing chain broke down on me, any thoughts, in advance, sincerely appreciate.