HOW TO BUILD CHEAP 5.0L FORD POWER! WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO ADD POWER TO YOUR DAILY DRIVEN SB FORD?
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- HOW TO MAKE SBF POWER. HOW MUCH POWER DO HEADS, CAM AND INTAKE ADD TO A 5.0L FORD MUSTANG? CAN A JUNKYARD 5.0L 302 MAKE POWER? LOW BUCK, REBUILT 5.0L UPGRADES! CHECK OUT THIS VIDOE ON WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REPLACE THE FACTORY 5.0L FORD (E7TE) IRON CYLINDER HEADS, STOCK HYDRAULIC ROLLER CAM AND INDUCTION SYSTEM WITH AFTER MARKET ALUMINUM HEADS, A HEALTHY COMP XTREME ENERGY CAM AND DUAL-PLANE INTAKE. THIS VIDEO SHOWS HOW TO WAKE UP YOUR DAILY DRIVER SMALL BLOCK FORD MOTOR WITH EASY UPGRADES.
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I used 190cc aluminum heads on my 2000 explorer 5.0 along with a TFS stage 1 cam and OBX headers. Those wondering: 2.02” intake valves clear stock ‘00 explorer pistons with the TFS stage 1 cam (.512 lift on intake). Running the factory EFI still just had to turn up the idle to about 800. Moves my 8” lifted ranger on 33s pretty well!
That's good to hear. I have the stock 79 bottom end in my zephyr that has Pistons with no notch in them like 86 GTs but I've heard those guys have no issues with stage 1 cams and 170 trick flows or the newer 11R heads either so i think that's the route I'll go
Jay you mentioned the .512 intake lift while discussing valve clearance with your TFS 1 cam, but TrickFlow lists the specs for that cam as .499/.510
The only way I could imagine you getting.512 on the intake side would’ve been if you’d used 1.7 rockers instead of the stock 1.6…
@@skipgumphrey9579 you’re right, I had a brain fart! Definitely is .499/.510
@@KingJT80 11R will give most PTV clearance
@@vrm86gt yea that's the route I'm thinking I'm also thinking of going to a 347 too.
Thanks for making these vids. Never done 5.0 motors before and put one in my wife's b2200 and now learning.
I had a 306 in a 90 Notch. B303, edelbrock performer heads with mild port work, Trick Flow upper and lower intakes. That car ran very well. I owned two fox body mustangs and wish I still had them. Great bang for the buck for a fun street car.
Nice video Richard. I loved my mild built 85 GT Mustang 302 I built back in the late 90s. Tried and failed to blow it up. Lasted 12 yrs of my daily driving it, racing it and still runs today in a 66 2+2 Fastback Mustang with the T5 World Class transmission. That trans never had any issues with the Pro 5.0 shift tower and a 10.5 inch clutch.
I remember my first and only 302. I had a 93 F-150 4x4 short box with a 5 speed. I loved that truck. I did some mild upgrades to the engine way back then, but never did do what I wanted to before getting rid of the truck. I was young then lol. Just thought i was cool because I had a 5.0
Always always always a treat to learn from one if not the best teacher and the most thought out well planned..your vidros keep me alive.. thank you brother
I appreciate that!
Two years ago I essential duplicated an engine Mr. Holdener did for a magazine article back in 2016. It’s a 331 with XE274 cam, TFS 170 heads, 10.4:1 compression, AirGap RPM and a SS-650AN Quick Fuel carb. I have not had my engine on a dyno but I expect it is very similar to the 439 hp and 437 lb-ft that he got. It works extremely well so THANK YOU VERY MUCH, it is an awesome engine!
Very cool!
Back in the 90s the best thing I did besides a blower were the trick flow raised port aluminum heads. Damn those totally woke that car up.
If your buying a remanufactured engine, buy the marine version. They typically come with the GT40 heads. Both 302 and 351.
Great video Richard! When you get a chance, please post the 4th installment of the SBF heads, the big heads. Thank you Tony
Great data Richard and thanks!
My project '66 has a junkyard GT40P. Never took the heads off. Told the Comp Cams rep that I wanted the biggest cam that I could use behind the stock converter. Installed the springs recommended by Alex's Parts, a new oil pump and timing set. I'm using a dist. with a Pertronix ignition and an Autolite 108-4100. I've only driven it up and down the road (no interior or front sheet metal) but it will lay two black lines down as long as I hold it down. I got a late '50's big Ford 9 inch under it with a limited slip and 3:50 gears.
Made a 306 ci 5.0 a couple years ago, used a Lunati Voodoo roller similar to that comp cam, with the Trickflow 170 ports out of the box, man, what a fun combo....put a 2800 converter and a built AOD behind it with some 3.73s, it was a real blast for the money...kinda wished I'd done a 347 at the end of the day, but nobody that rode in it was disappointed!
I have almost the exact same set up with 650 carb. How much Hp did you make?
@@DavesRacingTv low 400s
I have a t5 with 3.73s, want to spray a 75 shot because the car already has the kit on it but I don’t kno anything about nos
I love big port heads on small motors. They rev out sooooooo nice
Mmm airflow
Yipe. Built a clevor with 4v heads. Turns 8,000 rpm.
Thanks for this video ,Rich . Appreciate 👍🇵🇷
Very cool build. Thanks for sharing
I did tgat with tfs iton street heat and efi eldbrock intake . Was a blast to drive. Miss that car .
I have a similar set-up in the ranger sir. Expo base, stock cam, afr's, expo intake. Last data log showed 16.5 psi from a 62mm hx40.
PErfect Richard! Most interesting THX a lot!
The Ford 5.0 HO was one of those engines that pulled like it was 50 cubic inches bigger! It helped to save the hot rodding hobby.
I built a 351 stroker budget motor; 393 crank, stock rods, Cleveland 2v heads with 460 2v intake valves, roller cam. Cheap power! Edelbrock Clevor intake manifold.
Paul the canted valve Cleveland 2-V
production iron heads will easily outflow E7 heads (and most OEM Windsor based heads) while still maintaining decent charge velocity across a wide rpm range with the 2-V sized ports. The only thing to be aware of are the negative comments posted by the clueless online experts in regards to the open combustion chamber design produced for U.S. vehicles.
While it is more prone to detonation than the excellent OEM Cleveland 4-V closed (quench) chamber design, the problem can be avoided with the proper compression ratio, cam duration and ignition timing.
There are still plenty of 351C, 2-V heads available in salvage yards and online at affordable prices along with a good selection of aftermarket “Clevor “ intakes and/or spacer plates to adapt Cleveland heads to 8.2” and 9.5” deck height Windsor blocks. All blocks will fail when their power capacity is exceeded so anyone overly concerned with the cyber hype about 302 blocks splitting in half when pushed hard should just use a Cleveland block to start with. It doesn’t matter if it’s the 2 or 4-bolt main bearing cap variety. They both have stout bulkheads and pan rails supporting the bottom end. Seeing is believing so check out the DragBoss videos right here on TH-cam. His naturally aspirated, single 4-V carb, all engine 408 Cleveland small block stroker pulls 752 horsepower on the dyno, runs 9.60 quarter miles in his all steel ‘69 Cougar and he has been using the same OEM 2-bolt main iron block for almost 20 years with no failures. Try that with a stock Windsor block or even a highly overrated SBC block and you might have a very bad day.
Lots of builders like yourself have had great results with standard displacement as well as larger 383”, 393” and 408” Clevor strokers. If anyone reading this has doubts about the power potential of Cleveland heads, I suggest checking out “The Other Guys” videos featuring Cleveland heads posted by Mr. Holdener. His fair and balanced method of collecting real data and posting the results regardless of the outcome is as good as it gets in the cyber world tainted by bullshit 😉.
And the beat goes on……
Way back in the day I had a 306 with heavily ported E7TEs 1.94 x 1.6 valves that I got for $500 and a B303, it was great had loads of fun and made 267rwhp then I changed just the head to TW 170s it jumped to 308 rwhp. Why am I writing this well agreeing with Richard a good head will really wake these motors up!
Those E7's work pretty good ported. Stock valves on mine with an E cam, and got 285.
@@hondatech5000 chassis dyno showed 285 @ 5200 & 315 @ 4400. I used to be pretty good at this.
285 whp with an E cam and stock heads? seems high
@@richardholdener1727 Ported stock heads. They flowed 215/185 @.500. Compared to P head flow #'s and dyno graphs you've shown in your videos, it seems about right. This was with stock pulleys & fan, shorty headers, Typhoon EFI intake, 13 degrees of base timing, and 24 lb injectors. I wish I would've had an electric water pump & long tubes.
@@richardholdener1727 Some professional porters (DV, CS) claim 230+ cfm on ported E7s.
Nice, good information.
Great info 👌
Another perfectly timed video! Getting my son a fox body to build over Christmas break(he is 16 and it's not his daily) and I was wondering what's the best combo for 300hp(don't want him to be a meme when he drives to his first car meet) and this is the perfect way to go! Explorer swap here we come!
Explorer is hard to beat
Unless that kids experienced I wouldn't do nothing like that until he gets used to it .
Explorers are hard to find now
This is awesome! I always watch your videos especially the 454 videos we built a budget peanut port 454 for my son's Camaro drag car (12.50s @ 108) but we just bought a 5.0 E250 van motor for his 83 4cyl daily driver notch back mustang so this video came at the perfect time! Thanks Richard!
Our peanut port 454 budget build just went 11.85 @112 1.57 60'
I just bought a 89 302 from a e250 van been worried about the different firing order, have you had any issues yet,
@@thruitallauto2538 only issue you will have with firing order is you just have to put the wires in the cap in the order of the cam you have, our motor is from a 95 truck so I think that has the HO firing order but we put a Chevy motor in it because we had a complete fresh motor and trans sitting in the garage, the truck oil pan is different then a fox body so you will need a pan and pickup as well
@@operatingengineer yeah I’m thinking going carburetor so I guess the firing order want matter, yeah I’m a Chevy guy, thought about putting a Chevy motor in it
@@thruitallauto2538 super easy swap! We used tin man mounts , put a Chevy trans yoke on the ford drive shaft, used the factory ford crossmember with a powerglide , bypass regulator with his EFI fuel pump, headers were the hardest to come up with we used $85 block huggers from speedway ! Car goes 14.40s with a 307 we got for free, he still wants to put the ford eventually but the Chevy was so cheep and he built that motor so he wanted to see how it ran, we might put a single GT45 turbo on it for next season
It's pretty foolproof , just need AFR heads.
I vote trick flow. Less money and can fit over my 79 flat top Pistons lol
@Steve B I'd just replace the Pistons. Trick flow will make just as much power without the extra work. This has been debated for years
Hello Richard. Do the stock valve covers fit over those bolt down roller rockers?
A set of 165/185 heads on a stockish 302 and a good cam. Make good HP.
@@I_like_turtles_67 that's basically what the trick flow top end kit is based on
So here we go again. Earlier today I was thinking "thinking" mind you, about hopping up a 302 for my Bronco 2 project and clearly my phone read my mind because here's this video. 🤦🏻♂️
good lesson
Great video, You are the best, Master! Thank you for the info!
Thanks rich!
91 roller 302 ,board 30 over to 306 ci.
Edelbrock rpm 170 / 60 cc heads
1.6 rockers
Comp cam - nitrous hp ground cam - 114 lobe sep, # 35-556-8
650 quick fuel carb
BBK shorty headers
250+ shot on progressive
C,4 built 164 tooth with a 3400 stall
Alumni drive shift
35 splin axles spooled 4.10 gear
STOCK BLOCK AND CRANK ...
Runs real good into the 6's an has a little left in it. Probably 330 to tire N/A an 570 to low 600's with nitrous. Lol could be less or more ,never raced a dyno to find out
Any plans on doing some 289 stuff? Would love to see some 289 high revvers
I have a 302 with stock forge pistons promaxx 185 cylinderheada 2.02 valves comp cams n271s cam. I run solid lift with scorpion roller rockers and edelbrock performer rpm intake. In a 67 fairlane 2500 stall and a built c4
Awesome sounds like no problem with piston to valve clearence with the smaller valve reliefs and stock pistons with 2.02 heads? Getting ready for my clay test this weekend... I'm using E cam/ liberty aluminum heads but 1987' stock forged Pistons.. (smaller valve reliefs) so hopefully it all clears....
Nice
That cam seems quite appropriate for a 5.8 build. Provided you don't turn it into a 392 or 427.
Only one thing I would do is start with a 5.0L HO engine, they had many factory upgrades and are very strong and last forever
Any experience with the big mother thumper cams for the 302
With the xe274hr cam would you have to have a higher than factory stall converter
Step on, sell that thing and buy a 351w, preferably a 95 truck 351w! Heads, can, intake! I graduated from those years ago! Pick up a second with the same heads and cam, but you gotta get an intake! Get the same at 6000 that the 302 does at nearly 7000! Swapped a 351w in and picked up a second in the 1/8 mile! Sell that 5 liter and just move up! You gotta have a good set of heads!
Hey Rich, have you ever tested any of the breadbox upper intakes? Like the ones that went on stock lower or better yet, the gt40 lowers. Like the Hartman, Comp, Jegs max box, ect. Maybe against other efi ones?
yes-they (predictably) lose power through most of the curve
What was dynamic compression ratio before and after?
Awesome video very informative! I have a 1995 Mustang Cobra. Has Gt-40 heads and cobra intake from factory. I have shorty headers, off-road h-pipe and borla mufflers. Would adding a 274 cam and valve springs be the best bang for the buck to add power? Should I upgrade injectors and throttle body? Thank you!
IF YOU HAVE 24-POUND INJECTORS-THEY WILL WORK-THE 274 CAM WILL HELP A LOT
I will always choose good heads over a good cam especially since my goal is rarely to make gobs of power at 6000+rpm.
no use of using 6500 rpm heads and a cam that goes to 5500 just match it all up or but i dont mind revving a 302 to 6500 because most modern muscle will there and higher. gotta keep with them the old school way!!
True. I took a 87 roller short block. Added 4v Cleveland heads. Engine makes great power and screams.
@@cammontreuil7509 so a clevor? That would be nice. Usually people do 351s for clevors is your an 8.2 deck?
@@KingJT80 yes. The block is a 1987 roller from a cougar.
A 69 truck 302 crank. You have to cut down the oil splash on the back of crank to use a one piece rear seal. 5.4 inch rods. Chevy Keith black pistons, I cut the top of pistons to fit Valve reliefs.
Boss 302 heads and stock intake.
Cleveland headers. 800 double pumper for sport driving, just a 600 for street.
With the stock roller cam engine runs smooth and off idle torque is great.
Believe it or not. With double springs, engine will pull to 8,000 rpm.
You could use Cleveland heads.
I have a pair of 71 boss 351 heads already to modified for another clevor.
A wedge head does make a bit more torque on low end.
But pound for pound nothing beats a clevor for a head rush.
@@cammontreuil7509 YEah like a boss 302 then.
Did you fly cut the pistons for that cam
And head setup
BPE 205cc (2.08 intake)and xe274hr on stock pistons without any cutting/modifications? And btw, wasn't expecting the sudden...whaaa noise. May of peed just a little, lol.
I'm wanting to put together a very mild aluminum head roller 302 for an mgb roadster project. Don't need a ton of power just a good cruiser. The aluminum heads are only for weight saving, 302s with aluminums heads are supposedly only 40lbs heavier than the original 1800 4cyl that came in MGBs.
Ive always wanted to do that since the 60s with the yellow B. 👍
Healey would be good too $$ One just sold here locally. 😎
A SBF HEALEY
I have the NKB heads and the Summit E303+ cam ready to rip as my winter project.
Where does one begin with a stock 289 Ford? I have a limited budget and have enough saved to do one of the following. Rebuild and bore the bottom end. Or, add a set of dual quads on a tunnel ram (or just dual quads....all for the coolness factor) or, install aluminum heads. Either one of these could include a new cam which would put me on the high end of my budget. Is there a best place to start.
Let me add, I am going to check my compression to see if I have descent compression to do any of the other things first. If I have bad compression, then it's a no brainer. Otherwise, what would be the best order?
Great video man. I just inherited my dad's '95 5.0 convertible 5 speed with only 33k original miles. The only mods he ever did was a cold air intake and a cat back exhaust. I just did a 3.73 gear swap but also have shorty headers, high flow catted x pipe, 70 mm throttle body, 76 mm MAF sensor and new high performance 19 lb injectors on order. Do you think this is a good way to start my build? FYI I'm not tracking it I just want more power for the street.
USE 24 POUND INJECTORS WITH A 24 POUND METER
I'm running a 331 with the Richard Holdener cam afr air gap and holley sniper efi I'm running the new as cast afr enforcer heads ill post numbers when it's built
nice
He has done well at making that cam famous for mustang owners
Would like too see a 289 build
So what im hearing is cams n springs n my explorer is big chillin
Cam is Crower 15510, 212 duration intake and exhaust, Lobe sep is 114.
MORE CAM WILL HELP
Why not consider crower 15511
Hello Richard. I am building a 68 mustang coupe Trans Am replica car. The engines in these cars were 289s that produced 425HP at crazy high RPM. My goal is to achieve 425HP using a 302 -T5 combo more in the 6500 RPM range. The 302-T5 that I purchased came from a 95 Mustang GT with only 45K on the odometer. Could I simply replace the pistons with a high quality set of forged pistons with the proper valve reliefs then add AFR 165 or 185 Cylinder heads with the proper cam, roller rockers, a 4bl intake and carb and be in the 425 hp range ? Or would I be better off using a 331 stroker kit ? Could you recommend the proper combination ? P.S. this will primarily be a street car. Also.. You have done an amazing job with your videos. I am actually overwhelmed with all of the information that you proved. I just ordered one of your ford small block books. Cant wait to get that.
YES YOU CAN DO THAT WITH PISTONS THAT HAVE VALVE RELIEFS
Did all explorer 5.0 come with gt40 heads?
How can I id gt40’s in a stack that the junk yard had already pulled?
What cc head will get a 1993 cobra v8 up to 9.5 to 1 compression ratio?
So what was the total cost of the reconditioned engine and what would be the cost if you purchase the engine from a junkyard?
Remember the old (69-70) BOSS 302 which had the BIG C4 port heads and regular 289 HIPO cam and 1.7 rockers? It did well.
The Z-302 had small heads and BIG cam and almost made the grade.
205 sounds large as the E7 are 127 and the 40/40p are 144 (some say 137). Ported the irons add about 7 unless theyre hogged. Ported E7s and the 40s flow about 185-195,
depending on the bench.
How big are the Cleveland 4 bbl heads? 😁😎
Thank you for the SBF stuff. Im still a Fox guy and doing 70k miles T5 car now.
THANKS AGAIN 👍👍👍😎😎🇺🇸
please see the video on the direct comparison between the Boss 302 and DZ 302-a 205 head is not too big-it's just being utilized
@Sub250 aerial shots that’s not exactly how it works. If the heads and/or carb is too big, the air velocity falls off and it makes less power.
@Sub250 aerial shots right, being an air pump, to flow more air to accommodate big carbs and ports, you have to spin more rpm to pump more of said air. Most engines are limited in valve train and bottom end to spin 7, 8, 9,000 rpm. So adding these big ports and carbs would make less power and be less responsive when limited rpm is a factor.
@Sub250 aerial shots I think we’re actually agreeing and just debating because it’s the Internet. I too have been class racing for years. Over carbureting an engine might not make less peak power, but in lower speed applications like a street car it will certainly have a negative affect on the usable power and usable rpm of the car. If the carb doesn’t have enough vacuum at given RPM none of the circuits are going to work correctly.
@Sub250 aerial shots hahahah that’s awesome. And true. 60’ is king.
I don’t need power I’m perfectly happy with a stock engine cuz I only care about low end power and sound. You know light to light power is all I want. Want a cam that sounds really good but doesn’t completely rob the entire bottom end power band. Most anything you do takes away from the bottom end. So I guess to get what I want I just need to pick a cam and put 410s in the damn car?
@richard holdener what do you think of the springs that come on the blueprint heads? Do they hold up to the lift they advertise?
we changed them
Get a good roller short block from junk yard. Put on good aluminum heads. Good intake and headers and carb. You're done on the cheap.
It's addictive.... More... More.... More.... more 😁😁😁
Hey Rich, could you please give us a dyno comparison on Ford 302 with heads, cam, explorer intake versus the new Jegs or Holley efi.
which jegs or holley efi are you talking about?
@@richardholdener1727 the bandit and Holley sniper kits.
If you use a wrecking yard engine and start to to spend your money on a stroker kit, and then ad cam, heads and intake!?
Another great video Richard. Thank you. Please give me some advice. I have a 88 fox with a 302 with a powerdyne blower, TW heads from 2001, Edelbrock RPM EFI intake, 47 lb injectors, the baby crower cam with 1.7 rockers. Dyno'd at 417 RWHP. Do you feel the little cam is holding me back? Trick Flow says their Stage 2 cam would clear the pistons. Any advice from any of you is deeply appreciated. Happy Holiday's to everyone.
i don't know what the baby cam specs are
Check out few of my videos.
306 t-trim big cam e85 600wheel
Hey Richard, I’m curious if you’ve tested old 1970 351w 4v heads in comparison with other SBF heads?
I have a mild build 302 similar to your test motor with an E303 ,gt40p top end and the usual bolts in a Fox body. Ran really well for what it was but decided to use a set of 351w 4v heads that I mildly ported ….seem to run even better and pulled harder up top to about 5500 or so..
Curious if these heads are actually better than gt40p heads or is it all in my head? Lol
the 1969 351W head was the go-to head for SBfs for a long time-its about on par with a GT40 head
OK Richard now build a LA 318. Use a 0.040 with a forged 318 crank. try a hi lift cam with some domed pistons like Icon ic845-040 hughes cam will make good power.See what magic you can do.
Domes above .100 usually hinder flame travel, especially the sharp corners: David Vizard.
@@hotrodray6802 A little work on domes will help , my way is good to get much more power from a 318 with 340-360 heads.
So Richard, no worries about piston to valve clearence with stock pistons and 2.02/1.60 aluminum heads? I Bought The E-cam for this... Ive got some Liberty heads... have not done clay test yet... curious what you have found out about this possibility for a problem.... 🤔
I plan on doing the same thing this winter. Might just have to install them with a head gasket and measure piston to valves. I can’t find a solid answer either.
Shouldn’t be a problem. I been running the E cam in a Motorsport long block /flat tops for 20+ years now.
What intake and carb is that? What spacer as well do you recommend? Also, what cam would work well in a 302 and later, in a 351? Would that 274 work well in both?
it will work in both
I wish Richard told us how much the engine cost in total.
Great video. Does the 5.0 block have a limit?
From what I've seen online the limit is 475+ hp where it starts to have problems. That's why so many do 351w instead.
@@degenerateweeb6379 thank you
I'm building old school 331 chevy.RPM Edelbrock top end, custom Isky cam. I want to single Turbo " rear" mount under the trunk gt45. Have you tested this combination ? Should I single exhaust with y-pipe to the back or dual. What size piping. 15-18 lbs max boost.
y pipe-then single back to turbo-you can double the na power output at 15 psi-the gt45 might not be enough for 18 psi
Richard, would you consider using a stud girdle for added strength and more horsepower in the 5.0?
they don't usually make any power
Do u have a link for the heads
What is the best cam swap for the Explorer engine with the GT40P heads? If the 272 is too big...I got an engine for my son's 56 F100. Gonna put a T5 trans and 9" rear.
there is no best
Have a vintage tri-power intake and carb setup I’m waiting to install on my 68 302. Any recommendations for heads and cam combinations?
afr heads, 274 comp cam
Big question ⁉️. I have Edelbrock performer heads (non RPM) have you worked with them before they say 190Cc. I'm just trying to ball park my hp. I have B Cam 1.7rr shorties and Ford Single plane Intake
see the big head test videos on the 5.0l-your data is there
Hi Richard, great video! I am building a 289 with a comp 270HR cam, roller rockers,, world products windsor sr heads, and KB 10:1 pistons. What ring gap would you recommend if I wsnt to spray it with 100-150 shot of nitrous?
.006 per inch of bore works for that
Would you spray a motor with hypereutectic pistons in it?
And thank you soo much for the response!
What model explorer
I have a trickflow 11r 170 top end kit I'm bout to install on a stock 302 got a tubular gt40 intake upper and lower ported and a 70mm tb. Any recommendations on fuel upgrades
30 pound injectors
Which exhaust manifolds/headers do you recommend for the P heads. Engine is going in a 68 cougar. Ty
don't know chassis specific headers
Good info. I want to go to the wrecking yard for a motor. I know where there's an Explorer 5.0 liter but what's the "FTW" @3:35 ? I never heard of the "Explorer 5.0L FTW". This is base model, it's the "FTW" that i want to make sure about first. Thanks
For The Win!
Im looking into building up my mystery 86 5.0 mustang and like this combo but with junkyard heads and intake quite a bit. Will the stock injector size with the factory ECU work and give me similar gains? Or what size injector should I use and will i need to piggyback the ECU? Only mystery here is the guy who sold it to me said it had a stroker kit in it but i havent taken it apart to verify yet. Also have read that the 86 GT motors had no valve reliefs? Is this true in the event that it is stock? And if thats the case will i still be able to use GT40 heads with the XE 274 cam? Thanks and happy holidays!
that cam and head combo won't fit in an 86, unless there are valve reliefs
@@richardholdener1727 would the crate motor out of a 97 explorer fit in my mustang?
@@stephenb3414 yes.
Headers, oil pan sump, accessories must match.
The Ex does have the shorter accessory pack which works better in 60s era cars with thick radiators.
Will flotek aluminum heads work with a 5.0HO? Did you have to mill your pistons to clear the valves on the blueprint heads?
This is also my question... I've got Liberty alum heads with same 2.02/1.60 and with stock HO pistons (smaller valve reliefs) and E cam... haven't done clay check yet... soon I will....
Try some speedmaster iron 180cc heads. 250.00 ea bare.
That's still $ 1,000 a pair.
great for the person who thinks they need a junkyard Coyote to have 400hp (since it'll be worn) and find themselves in a money pit to get everything hooked up.
Especially with swap ecus like a Holley Dominator, tuning efficiency can make old setups just as good as today’s from idle to redline. We’re then splitting hair between compression ratio and +-20HP.
@@jojog8304 right, and back in the day there was the TwEEKer setup that took the original EEK4 setup and "enhanced" it...but good luck finding that nowadays :) you may even need an older laptop just to talk to it if you're starting from scratch
What about a stock motor with forged internals and run nitrous tests? Will a 100,200,250,400hp shot really work as advertised with stock cam and heads?
you won't be able to run a 400-hp shot on a 400-hp na motor
Love your video Rich. Thanks question, Gt40 heads comes in aluminium or only in Iron . Some people said it comes in aluminium?
Ford Racing offers after market aluminum GT40 heads, but they did not come on a production vehicle like the iron heads
Ford throws the names Cobra, GT40, BOSS etc around a lot for marketing purposes.
Pretty sure the Ford aluminum's are not the same "casting shape" as the irons. The GT40 3 bar irons are essentially a 69-73 351W head but with smaller spark plugs and the new style rockers.
How much would a build like this cost?
i wish i could build a ford as cheap as the chevys i get like i get the 4 inch stroke 454 with a 02xx trans for free i have 4 setups now with 6,000 to 58,000 miles on them but i did get an old 390 that runs but needs rebuilt for free a lot of 360 fe blocks for free but they just don't have the hp as the 454's i get 450 hp at 485 torque
I was wondering on the springs you use i have a set of TF 205 heads also and gona run the Xe274 cam.But the springs on the heads are about 60lbs heavier would that cause any damage?
no
Richard, i gotta know. .. what springs, using the xe274 cam and GT40 heads? Part number please.
Building a mild 5.0 for the wifes 55 F100 with aod. ....and a carb
I'm not sure-you'd think I would know
@@richardholdener1727 killing me Smalls
Will the 274hr cam fit with twisted wedge heads and stock pistons?
need to check
Hello,
I have a rebuilt ford 302 and I have a trick flow stage 1 cam with a set of gt40p heads and also I have a set of AFR 185 enforcer aluminum cylinder heads. My question is which heads should I install because I am thinking maybe the 185 heads will flow slower due to bigger ports and small cam, is .499/.510 221/225 at 112 lobe separation.
please see the big 5.0l head test videos-the afr 185 head will be better by a lot through the whole curve
Hi Richard ..ive got a f350 with a 302 thats been mildly done but it does not move the truck past 65mph the engine does nothing after 65mph the motor sits at 3100rpm
LIMITER?
Hi Richard i have a Mustang with an 86 motor in it, I’ve heard that e6 heads are no bueno as well as no other heads work with the flat top pistons used for that one year only. Am I better off to run new pistons that way I can utilize better heads?
pistons with valve reliefs will allow to more cam and cylinder head choices to make more power
cut reliefs ??
Here is an advice from a 61 years old mustang owner , “ if you want to do the quarter mile on a decent time , stop dating fat chicks “.
You need to warn about the GT40P heads, those are the most common but they cause header headaches in anything remotely vintage.
A lot of manufacturers offer headers for those heads and only require a few 90° plug wires to make work.
Rumors
Rarely any problems.
Denting a couple tubes is insignificant.
GO FOR IT
@@hotrodray6802 Not rumors. They do have plug interference where simply bashing it works for some headers to get clearance while others simply wont be able to fit a plug boot on. This is why its important to check header fitment with your heads if your swapping and look into manufacturers that offer swap headers.
Did u have to have the pistons fly cut or did u clear the valve to piston clearance
it had p-v
What gaskets are good to use with afr heads gonna spray motor with nitrous as well heard 9333 felpro waa good but was told they arent as good as i thought they were
1011-2 or mls
@@richardholdener1727 OK thanks