Alex has trained at Jason Morris’ dojo in upstate NY many times. Jason is a great Judo mind and understands how to use Judo in Wrestling. Alex did not wrestle until high school in the tough state of Illinois. He made wrestlers play his game of Judo on a wrestling mat.
@@navigatingel6104 We don't really feel that much about it. We'd encourage him to use that overhook leg toss as a last result. If he's getting to the State Finals, he's probably good enough to win, but he's also going to run into guys who are going to love him giving up the inside position and they're going to either drop down on a single or if they're Greco guys as well(which...again, I think that Cramer kid was, but we look at over 150 kids a year, so I could be mistaken) they're going to go right into a body lock right there and that overhook isn't going to do much for him. So...I only coached at HS for about 2 years after I finished my College career, but as a HS Coach I'd try to work with him to have him mix it up a little bit. Definitely use the foot sweep, but over the underhook. As a College coach...and in the B1G I mean, there's talent there, but I don't know that we'd go after that. He's putting himself in a lot of danger vs the best Wrestlers and he's going to get thrown to his back quite a bit. That's also not everyone's goal and he made the state finals in one of the 10-15 best Wrestling States in the Country. But it's impressive with some bad habits that I'd try to work on. But again, all in all, state finals...nice run.
Wrestling and Judo are close cousins. I wrestled in the 1980's and you saw more of this. Not because we knew judo but because upper body ties, back-steps, and throws were more encouraged. That first move was a "barrel roll" and was common in the 80's. I haven't seen it used that well if at all in years. I used arm throws like crazy and I never see those anymore in wrestling (at then international level I see them). Those back steps (not sure what the judo names are) that put guys on the ground is something that I was very good at. I'm glad there's a judo guy showing us the value of these techniques once again.
I believe the techniques are not as similar as you may think... In Judo, the principal is to use your opponent’s off balance and energy to your benefit. That’s why his technique looks so smooth and effortless. In wrestling you go against your opponent’s force, which is less fluid and expends more energy. So the technique is actually quite different.
@@knaufjudo8597 Not really. Perhaps at the high school level. But in college, it's all about the set-up. Getting your opponent to get off balance or out of position in a way that allows the attack to work. I think the beauty of judo is that is utilized a more full-body attack (upper body tie-up and grips combined with foot sweeps and back-steps). Wrestling tend to attack in a more isolated way. Just think of the take down names in wrestling, "single-leg" "double-leg" "Duck Under". You know exactly what is happening. When I grapple with Judo guys, you think you're safely tied up then BOOM, they sweep you. And your laying on your butt thinking "What the hell just happened". But when a wrestler attacks it's more like, "he's got my leg, now he's got me on the ground, he's climbing up my body into a better position". I admire the fluidity of Judo take downs and the tenacity of wrestling take downs.
😂I never see anyone arguing whether a jab belongs to muay thai or boxing. But people are super obsessed with arguing whether a grappling move comes from Judo or wrestling.
very cool. once playing free style I pulled a single on a guy. I brought his leg up the pipe like you see in the first throw. the other guy tossed me with uchi mata just like you see this guy do in the first throw.
It doesn't, that's why we train without one occasionally. I have a brown belt in judo and in hindsight I realized how much time I wasted when I could have been doing no-gi grappling
When you combine both Wrestling and Judo that should make for a very skilled grappler. Throw in some catch and he might be unbeatable. I wonder how those 3 would work together now that I think about it. Judo itself is rather impressive.
travis stevens is great. i like how he can mix styles, but also says you should keep your eye on the objective for each style, and mix in technique that way. for instance, not just learning pure bjj for judo since they're two different rulesets.
I did Judo pre-teen and started wrestling in high school. Wrestlers hated me. The big difference was the rules. In wrestling, at take down was just points and a means to pinning someone. It didn't matter how hard you'd took down the person, so wrestling never focused on doing it harder than you 'needed' to. In Judo, a clean throw on your back would win the match outright. Yes, starting out, I could throw a less experienced wrestler, but they'd reverse out and get the points back. The also had a tendency to stop wrestling matches if you through people too hard and then restart you in a different position -- after the person recovered from the being winded. Different rules really give different outcomes. That said, we had some great guys at our dojo who were blackbelts, did wrestling, hit the gym, and were solid muscle. You just couldn't throw them.
@@MaxLohMusic alot of armchair warriors say that. but the main armchair argument they present is that the throwing/takedowns won't work without a gi... laughable.
Привет друг. Алекс борется с дзюдо в весовой категории до 81 кг. Он боролся на чемпионате мира среди кадетов в Алматы в 2019 году и готовится принять участие в чемпионате мира среди младших в 2021 году. Надеюсь, что covid скоро закончится, и мы все сможем тренироваться и соревноваться вместе. Hello friend. Alex fights Judo in 81kg. He fought at Cadet World Championships in Almaty in 2019 and hopes to compete at Jr World Championships in 2021. hopefully covid ends soon so we can all train and compete together.
@@knaufjudo8597 ,здравствуйте.Лихо он вольников размотал.Спасибо,что показал силу нашего вида борьбы. А Александр брал призовые места по вольной борьбе? Желаю здоровья и удачи и без травм.
@@user-wu8gq1jd3m да мешков он всяких размотал.. видно же что уровень невысокий. Один там вообще на туше лёг чуть ли не сам, и даже не сопротивлялся когда его ложили. Это разные виды спорта... Что-то конечно работает, Моррис живой пример. Но опять же, до какого уровня он дошёл как вольник? Что он занял на международном уровне как вольник? Точно так же к примеру и Хорпяков. Вольник пошёл в дзюдо и легко и быстро выполнил МС. Но на международном уровне не потянул.. ещё раз - это разные виды борьбы, и это как раз тот случай когда за двумя зайцами погонишся и ни одного не споймаешь.
@@georgiykvantaliani6735 ,за Александра не знаю,а вот Джейсон на серьезных американских соревнованиях бился.Читал об этом на каком то из форумов. Верно подмечено,что виды борьбы разные,а по сему вызывает уважение способность адаптировать свою технику под нужды другого вида. Да и вольники,в большинстве своем,отказались от подножек,подсечек,подхватов.Используют наиболее оцениваемую технику по их правилам.Что правильно и логично.1000 000 вариантов проходов в ноги.Это здорово,конечно.Но,может это и сыграло злую шутку,когда пришлось столкнуться с другим техническим арсеналом борьбы.
@@user-wu8gq1jd3m по поводу подножек и подсечек не совсем так. Их вольники тоже делают, но реже, из-за особенностей стойки. Вольники стоят ниже дзюдоистов, посему и нужда в них естественным образом отпадает. Ну а Моррис насколько я помню дошёл до панамериканских игр в вольной борьбе. Взял там место. И это не маленький уровень, и достаточно серьёзный.. но всё же это не уровень мира или Европы. А так в целом конечно Моррис большой молодец и пожалуй уникум в этом отношении.
Хорпяков вольник, по такой же схеме перешёл в дзюдо и разматывал опытных дзюдоистов на чемпионате страны. Но выше не пошло у него. Потому что это разные виды спорта. Что-то конечно сработает, но на высоком уровне всё равно "переучкам" ничего не светит.
Agreed, the basics seem to do best at the national level. I see a lot of wrestlers winning with a good single leg or double leg take down and a half nelson.
I always thought I'd put my kid into wrestling at a young age and then bjj after high school, but I am wromg! I'm actually thinking Judo when they are young like before middle school and then middle school to high school and BJJ is great after that much wrestling. 😅
Close Robert! I can tell you know your Judo…. ‘This dude’ is a Nidan (2nd degree black belt). #1 USA Judo Jr. 90kg #1 USA Judo Sr. 90kg #4 World Jr. 90kg Heading to Lima, Peru this week for Jr PanAmerican/Oceania Championships . Thank you for your support.
Every one of these is a taught wrestling technique, so if it is Judo they share this. These are all great opportunistic moves but against an opponent with more upperbody and greco- hip technique it would be fun. Both opponents would be prepared.
@@quickstep2408 Greco-Roman wrestling is just lacking in good coaches and numbers. Its an unbelievable dominant style. If someone has experience in it than most wrestlers in folk style dont even have fundamental defenses to it. Andy Seras and the late Joe Demao, both who I trained with when I was young were 2 of the best Greco-Roman people in the world. 20 years later you still don't see there type of techniques anywhere unless at the world stage of Greco-Roman where it all either came from them or was made better by them. They were like the the Dave Schultz to Greco-Roman techniques so to speak. Sorry for long answer...lol Short answer. Noone knows it
@@joshfield8011 judo has a lot of answers for Greco attacks, especially because they don't really play the foot sweep game. Not that Greco isn't awesome. My judo coach came up doing freestyle and greco, and both have a lot to add to judo as well. It's all grappling at the end of the day, just some minor stylistic changes and differing philosophies.
@@johnsnider2956 would it be difficult to adjust judo to no gi on your own? Like say you get good at judo and understand the concept on a good level you wouldn’t need a coach to teach you the alternatives to no gi would you? I imagine you would be able to kind of figure it out yourself because I’ve never seen anyone teach no gi judo or any school at least
@@The_true_Joe_mama Yes, they just have English names, like Chin whip, Whizzer kick, Hip throw, Arm throw, Flying mare, Outside sweep, Inside trip, etc. etc. All of them are standard and taught at every wrestling club. Americans prefer Blast doubles and Single legs, but the rest of the world uses much more upperbody takedowns and have way more variety in their attacks. Check out any wrestler from Iran/Russia/Armenia/etc. and you'll see.
@@kallepikku4991 All takedowns are taught from the white to the black belt. It isn't that in judo we prefer uperbody, it's just that our sport just don't favors it. But it's kinda sad that those throws like chin whip, wich are similar to ours, are so obscure in wester wrestling, at least in the international level. But i cannot lie, this happens also in judo, like with newaza(ground fight) and leg takedows. It's just that the video shows the desinterest or lack of interest in other technics, in amateur wrestling. I hope that the professional got more diversity, isn't it?
They're both very similar since grappling is an art that pretty much every civilization has developed individually. But judo scores were formed based on which fighter would have died if the competitors were warriors on the battlefield. So judo focuses on the takedowns along with submissions, while wrestling focuses on takedowns and pins. Many who practice judo focus mainly on takedowns though, while paying little attention to the ground game, since a clean takedown is automatically a win in an official judo competition.
@Knauf Judo I disagree. What makes Judo unique among grappling martial arts is if you score a clean takedown it counts as an automatic win. In wrestling, you just get points, and in BJJ it doesn't mean anything. The gi isn't what makes judo unique BJJ and Sambo are both done in gis.
@@millennialwatchman6703 Judo gripping or Kumi-kata, is a huge part of the sport, especially at the higher levels. The better gripper had a huge advantage over someone less skilled and often decides the outcome. Yes, Judo is about the throwing but superior gripping is what sets is all up. Without gripping it certainly would not be that same sport.
@Knauf Judo Wouldn't you say the same thing regarding BJJ? Are BJJ gi and no gi two totally different sports? So what if they are? If anything, I'd say that's all the more reason why Judo should have no gi. Because if someone attacks you on the street, unless they're wearing a jacket, which they probably won't be, you're going to have to use different tactics in order to throw them. In my opinion, that's what the purpose of martial arts should be: self-defence.
Let’s take dribbling out of basketball or base running out of baseball…….. you’re making an entirely different sport by taking away a critical part or the sport. I you do not understand kumi-kata, you do not understand Judo.
Alex has trained at Jason Morris’ dojo in upstate NY many times. Jason is a great Judo mind and understands how to use Judo in Wrestling. Alex did not wrestle until high school in the tough state of Illinois. He made wrestlers play his game of Judo on a wrestling mat.
He looks really good for starting up in highschool. What place did he get in the state tournament?
Alex is a version of Jason Morris in 2020
How did the Wrestling Coaches feel about this I wonder?
@@navigatingel6104 We don't really feel that much about it. We'd encourage him to use that overhook leg toss as a last result. If he's getting to the State Finals, he's probably good enough to win, but he's also going to run into guys who are going to love him giving up the inside position and they're going to either drop down on a single or if they're Greco guys as well(which...again, I think that Cramer kid was, but we look at over 150 kids a year, so I could be mistaken) they're going to go right into a body lock right there and that overhook isn't going to do much for him.
So...I only coached at HS for about 2 years after I finished my College career, but as a HS Coach I'd try to work with him to have him mix it up a little bit. Definitely use the foot sweep, but over the underhook.
As a College coach...and in the B1G I mean, there's talent there, but I don't know that we'd go after that. He's putting himself in a lot of danger vs the best Wrestlers and he's going to get thrown to his back quite a bit.
That's also not everyone's goal and he made the state finals in one of the 10-15 best Wrestling States in the Country.
But it's impressive with some bad habits that I'd try to work on. But again, all in all, state finals...nice run.
@@HNICB1GM1K3 2nd
Wrestling and Judo are close cousins. I wrestled in the 1980's and you saw more of this. Not because we knew judo but because upper body ties, back-steps, and throws were more encouraged. That first move was a "barrel roll" and was common in the 80's. I haven't seen it used that well if at all in years. I used arm throws like crazy and I never see those anymore in wrestling (at then international level I see them). Those back steps (not sure what the judo names are) that put guys on the ground is something that I was very good at. I'm glad there's a judo guy showing us the value of these techniques once again.
EXACTLY.... wrestling teaches these techniques too.
I believe the techniques are not as similar as you may think... In Judo, the principal is to use your opponent’s off balance and energy to your benefit. That’s why his technique looks so smooth and effortless. In wrestling you go against your opponent’s force, which is less fluid and expends more energy. So the technique is actually quite different.
@@knaufjudo8597 Not really. Perhaps at the high school level. But in college, it's all about the set-up. Getting your opponent to get off balance or out of position in a way that allows the attack to work. I think the beauty of judo is that is utilized a more full-body attack (upper body tie-up and grips combined with foot sweeps and back-steps). Wrestling tend to attack in a more isolated way. Just think of the take down names in wrestling, "single-leg" "double-leg" "Duck Under". You know exactly what is happening. When I grapple with Judo guys, you think you're safely tied up then BOOM, they sweep you. And your laying on your butt thinking "What the hell just happened". But when a wrestler attacks it's more like, "he's got my leg, now he's got me on the ground, he's climbing up my body into a better position". I admire the fluidity of Judo take downs and the tenacity of wrestling take downs.
@@MtuckerGoBlue As a Judoka and JiuJiteiro, I think you're right, and props to a fellow open minded grappler. Cheers's from South America.
@@MtuckerGoBlue I'm not a grappler but that is an interesting breakdown of the difference between Judo and wrestling.
😂I never see anyone arguing whether a jab belongs to muay thai or boxing. But people are super obsessed with arguing whether a grappling move comes from Judo or wrestling.
Uchimata against single-legs is a great move!
😁
And back takes to. I tried it against an mma guy and got thrashed by an uchi mata when I didnt expect it
Judoka posing as wrestler wins championship lol
Overhook uchi mata is high percentage
very cool. once playing free style I pulled a single on a guy. I brought his leg up the pipe like you see in the first throw. the other guy tossed me with uchi mata just like you see this guy do in the first throw.
...all day lol. that was boss!
but you know, "judo doesn't work without a gi." lmfao
It doesn't, that's why we train without one occasionally. I have a brown belt in judo and in hindsight I realized how much time I wasted when I could have been doing no-gi grappling
Is this a mexican martial arts reference
@@Rex-golf_player810 does he not realize that the people in the video aren't wearing a gi?
@@notvladamir4082 no, you’re just misreading his comment
@@notvladamir4082 Rousey, Kayla Harrison, Karo Parisyan?
When you combine both Wrestling and Judo that should make for a very skilled grappler. Throw in some catch and he might be unbeatable. I wonder how those 3 would work together now that I think about it. Judo itself is rather impressive.
I do judo at two places, wrestling juco, did a national catch tournament week after judo winter nationals got 5th at both
I love to see Judo techniques are used in other wrestling sports which show how effective judo is.
Nice uchi-mata at 0:09 (and slo-mo at 0:16) !
Nice job. Ever since I found out about Jason Morris. Been looking for judo/wrestling to improve my grappling game.
Me too!!! Thanks to Firas at Tristar
@@sabinocardoza956 Yea me too, firas has lots of gems on his channel.
travis stevens is great. i like how he can mix styles, but also says you should keep your eye on the objective for each style, and mix in technique that way. for instance, not just learning pure bjj for judo since they're two different rulesets.
@@quickstep2408 Surprisingly the best instructional I've seen was by John Danaher (he's a judo bb too). Feet to floor has 2 is excellent.
Amazing!!
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Awesome stuff!
Thanks for the positive feedback.
Judo is power !
I did Judo pre-teen and started wrestling in high school. Wrestlers hated me. The big difference was the rules. In wrestling, at take down was just points and a means to pinning someone. It didn't matter how hard you'd took down the person, so wrestling never focused on doing it harder than you 'needed' to. In Judo, a clean throw on your back would win the match outright. Yes, starting out, I could throw a less experienced wrestler, but they'd reverse out and get the points back. The also had a tendency to stop wrestling matches if you through people too hard and then restart you in a different position -- after the person recovered from the being winded. Different rules really give different outcomes.
That said, we had some great guys at our dojo who were blackbelts, did wrestling, hit the gym, and were solid muscle. You just couldn't throw them.
Yo Alex Judo in these wrestling matches are ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥You can see clean clear judo techniques being used.
Hey Franz! Thanks for checking out my videos. Judo is a fantastic cross-training sport for wrestling. It translates well for sure.
Aye I’m wrestling in the back in the maroon 💪🏽
So Awesome! I believe you finish 4th in 2020... outstanding!!! Hope your college career goes just as well... thanks for checking out our channel.
@@knaufjudo8597 I did unfortunately :( the previous year I got 2nd but I love the videos, he’s very talented!
the first uchi mata was so clean
"That would never work in real life," they say...
Anyone who says that about Judo is a moron. It's not Aikido we're talking about
Said no one ever, actually.
@@colet1096 true
@@MaxLohMusic alot of armchair warriors say that. but the main armchair argument they present is that the throwing/takedowns won't work without a gi... laughable.
Sure if u say so cause you created everything and know everything
Nice Uchi-mata!
Excelente judoka
Nice video bro👍how old were you when you started doing judo?
Thanks for the feedback… I started Judo when I was six.
М О Л О Д Е Ц !!! Дзю-до это сила и техника и мощь!
Привет друг. Алекс борется с дзюдо в весовой категории до 81 кг. Он боролся на чемпионате мира среди кадетов в Алматы в 2019 году и готовится принять участие в чемпионате мира среди младших в 2021 году. Надеюсь, что covid скоро закончится, и мы все сможем тренироваться и соревноваться вместе.
Hello friend. Alex fights Judo in 81kg. He fought at Cadet World Championships in Almaty in 2019 and hopes to compete at Jr World Championships in 2021. hopefully covid ends soon so we can all train and compete together.
@@knaufjudo8597 ,здравствуйте.Лихо он вольников размотал.Спасибо,что показал силу нашего вида борьбы.
А Александр брал призовые места по вольной борьбе?
Желаю здоровья и удачи и без травм.
@@user-wu8gq1jd3m да мешков он всяких размотал.. видно же что уровень невысокий. Один там вообще на туше лёг чуть ли не сам, и даже не сопротивлялся когда его ложили.
Это разные виды спорта... Что-то конечно работает, Моррис живой пример. Но опять же, до какого уровня он дошёл как вольник? Что он занял на международном уровне как вольник?
Точно так же к примеру и Хорпяков. Вольник пошёл в дзюдо и легко и быстро выполнил МС. Но на международном уровне не потянул.. ещё раз - это разные виды борьбы, и это как раз тот случай когда за двумя зайцами погонишся и ни одного не споймаешь.
@@georgiykvantaliani6735 ,за Александра не знаю,а вот Джейсон на серьезных американских соревнованиях бился.Читал об этом на каком то из форумов. Верно подмечено,что виды борьбы разные,а по сему вызывает уважение способность адаптировать свою технику под нужды другого вида. Да и вольники,в большинстве своем,отказались от подножек,подсечек,подхватов.Используют наиболее оцениваемую технику по их правилам.Что правильно и логично.1000 000 вариантов проходов в ноги.Это здорово,конечно.Но,может это и сыграло злую шутку,когда пришлось столкнуться с другим техническим арсеналом борьбы.
@@user-wu8gq1jd3m по поводу подножек и подсечек не совсем так. Их вольники тоже делают, но реже, из-за особенностей стойки. Вольники стоят ниже дзюдоистов, посему и нужда в них естественным образом отпадает.
Ну а Моррис насколько я помню дошёл до панамериканских игр в вольной борьбе. Взял там место. И это не маленький уровень, и достаточно серьёзный.. но всё же это не уровень мира или Европы. А так в целом конечно Моррис большой молодец и пожалуй уникум в этом отношении.
I was wondering who was the judoka. Then I saw uchimata and I knew 😅
This is where freestyle and Greco Roman background come in handy.
Хорпяков вольник, по такой же схеме перешёл в дзюдо и разматывал опытных дзюдоистов на чемпионате страны.
Но выше не пошло у него. Потому что это разные виды спорта. Что-то конечно сработает, но на высоком уровне всё равно "переучкам" ничего не светит.
Agreed, the basics seem to do best at the national level. I see a lot of wrestlers winning with a good single leg or double leg take down and a half nelson.
The benefit of knowing 2 arts and using them in conjunction against people that only know 1.
Wrestling is about strength. Judo is about efficiency.
I always thought I'd put my kid into wrestling at a young age and then bjj after high school, but I am wromg! I'm actually thinking Judo when they are young like before middle school and then middle school to high school and BJJ is great after that much wrestling. 😅
Max was here
This seems to be an Illinois trend no? Judo gets impressing
U would be a beast at greco
What belt is Alex, and congrats too!
Alex is a Shodan black belt. He started Judo when he turned six. Thanks for asking.
@@knaufjudo8597 what degree?
@@aslanmerioles1218 probably 2 or 3
@@aslanmerioles1218 shodan means 1st dan
Oh.. De-ashibarai
That’s lit
did you wrestle in a college?
Uchi Mata all day long !!!!
YOSH!
Cool, kind of reminds me of some russian moves...
I'm guessing this dude is around a green belt if not higher
Close Robert! I can tell you know your Judo…. ‘This dude’ is a Nidan (2nd degree black belt).
#1 USA Judo Jr. 90kg
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Heading to Lima, Peru this week for Jr PanAmerican/Oceania Championships .
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Judo is handy in wrestling no doubt but however . The hip throw and the ankle trip is also a wrestling move
Uchi mata, de ashi barai. Legendary throws since japanese jujutsu
@@pomeloharris since legendary Greco Roman Style.
@@tyrannosaurus62 u know these are are from differents places of world? It's crazy how differents systems made similar techniques
@@pomeloharris yup.
@@pomeloharris Uchi mata is called a hank toss in CACC
It's a normal hipthrow you get it in both Wrestling and JUDO 😂😂😂
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Why is that even allowed?
Why wouldn’t it be?
Every one of these is a taught wrestling technique, so if it is Judo they share this. These are all great opportunistic moves but against an opponent with more upperbody and greco- hip technique it would be fun. Both opponents would be prepared.
but not alot of wrestlers using these 'judo' techniques... why is that then?
@@quickstep2408 Greco-Roman wrestling is just lacking in good coaches and numbers. Its an unbelievable dominant style. If someone has experience in it than most wrestlers in folk style dont even have fundamental defenses to it. Andy Seras and the late Joe Demao, both who I trained with when I was young were 2 of the best Greco-Roman people in the world. 20 years later you still don't see there type of techniques anywhere unless at the world stage of Greco-Roman where it all either came from them or was made better by them. They were like the the Dave Schultz to Greco-Roman techniques so to speak. Sorry for long answer...lol
Short answer. Noone knows it
@@joshfield8011 judo has a lot of answers for Greco attacks, especially because they don't really play the foot sweep game. Not that Greco isn't awesome. My judo coach came up doing freestyle and greco, and both have a lot to add to judo as well. It's all grappling at the end of the day, just some minor stylistic changes and differing philosophies.
@@johnsnider2956 would it be difficult to adjust judo to no gi on your own? Like say you get good at judo and understand the concept on a good level you wouldn’t need a coach to teach you the alternatives to no gi would you? I imagine you would be able to kind of figure it out yourself because I’ve never seen anyone teach no gi judo or any school at least
How is this judo? I thought judo was wrestling in gi?
I'm pretty sure all these are 100% wrestling takedowns. Every wrestler knows them.
Wrestling has uchi mata, tai otoshi and o goshi now? But i can agree about the ankle pick
Also, judo is specialized within oponents dressed or not. There is a high variation of throws
@@The_true_Joe_mama Yes, they just have English names, like Chin whip, Whizzer kick, Hip throw, Arm throw, Flying mare, Outside sweep, Inside trip, etc. etc.
All of them are standard and taught at every wrestling club. Americans prefer Blast doubles and Single legs, but the rest of the world uses much more upperbody takedowns and have way more variety in their attacks. Check out any wrestler from Iran/Russia/Armenia/etc. and you'll see.
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All takedowns are taught from the white to the black belt. It isn't that in judo we prefer uperbody, it's just that our sport just don't favors it.
But it's kinda sad that those throws like chin whip, wich are similar to ours, are so obscure in wester wrestling, at least in the international level. But i cannot lie, this happens also in judo, like with newaza(ground fight) and leg takedows.
It's just that the video shows the desinterest or lack of interest in other technics, in amateur wrestling. I hope that the professional got more diversity, isn't it?
They're both very similar since grappling is an art that pretty much every civilization has developed individually. But judo scores were formed based on which fighter would have died if the competitors were warriors on the battlefield. So judo focuses on the takedowns along with submissions, while wrestling focuses on takedowns and pins.
Many who practice judo focus mainly on takedowns though, while paying little attention to the ground game, since a clean takedown is automatically a win in an official judo competition.
Judo needs to have no gi tournaments!
I appreciate the feedback… but if Judo was no gi, it wouldn’t be Judo!
@Knauf Judo I disagree. What makes Judo unique among grappling martial arts is if you score a clean takedown it counts as an automatic win. In wrestling, you just get points, and in BJJ it doesn't mean anything. The gi isn't what makes judo unique BJJ and Sambo are both done in gis.
@@millennialwatchman6703 Judo gripping or Kumi-kata, is a huge part of the sport, especially at the higher levels.
The better gripper had a huge advantage over someone less skilled and often decides the outcome.
Yes, Judo is about the throwing but superior gripping is what sets is all up.
Without gripping it certainly would not be that same sport.
@Knauf Judo Wouldn't you say the same thing regarding BJJ? Are BJJ gi and no gi two totally different sports? So what if they are? If anything, I'd say that's all the more reason why Judo should have no gi. Because if someone attacks you on the street, unless they're wearing a jacket, which they probably won't be, you're going to have to use different tactics in order to throw them. In my opinion, that's what the purpose of martial arts should be: self-defence.
Let’s take dribbling out of basketball or base running out of baseball…….. you’re making an entirely different sport by taking away a critical part or the sport.
I you do not understand kumi-kata, you do not understand Judo.
They struggle defending against what they’ve never seen before.
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