Judo vs Wrestling - with Jason Morris - Feb 25th at Tristar Gym in Montreal
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- First Ever No Gi Judo Seminar with 4 X Olympian / Silver Medalist Jason Morris - Jason Morris Unique Style of Judo has prove incredibly effective in No Gi application.
"He's Judo is like nothing I have see before, everybody that does Jiu-Jitsu needs to learn from Jason Morris" Firas Zahabi
Where - Tristar Gym in Montreal (5275 Ferrier street, suite 301)
When - Saturday Feb 25th at 12pm
Who - Jason Morris
How much - 80$ for Tristar Members 100$ for non-members
*Please note this seminar will be No GI
contact Jason Morris Judo Centre jasonmorris210@yahoo.com
Jason Morris Judo Centre Website www.realjudo.net - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
this is my typa wrestling/judo i want for my MMA
Man just beautiful to watch this guy in motion.
Those trows were just sublime! The closest thing to this we've seen in the octagon, as far as I can remember, was Ronda converting Miesha's shots into Judo throws beautifully. One sided as hse is, her Judo has always been top-notch.
Another advantage of these kind of throws I can see for MMA fighter is that the majority of them seem to land in a side control or even mount, which saves you the trouble of guard-passing.
Upper body takedowns are really good for MMA, especially MMA in a cage.
This type of Judo is different from Ronda Rousey, Karo Parisyan or any other Judo you've seen or learnt. I must learn it
The problem is that judo sensibility for throws is only possible to aquire at a young age
Jason undertands wrestling because he's also a wrestler. It's not always a "versus" mentality that we benefit from. Too many people have a pseudo-competitive mind about everything, including information and how to learn, or what "Style" they are. It's been exhausting for me to hear it all these years. If a Judoka simply applies Judo against wrestling, and never wrestled, they're typically going to have some success and some failure. When I trained with a world-class Judoka from Morocco at the Jiu-jitsu school I attended in Vegas, I was surprised at how often he could lure me into a stance I don't like to use and trip me, but also surprised at how often I tangled and ruined his throws and ended up on his back. It went back and forth, and I was just a fairly decent wrestler during high school in the 80's, so well past my prime, he was a few years past his. Anyway, my wrestling sometimes included being not far away from where Jason competed, in the middle-upstate N.Y. area overlapping some of the same years. It's decent wrestling up there. In N.Y., if you don't always end up on top, you're going to find somebody who keeps your face in the mat and rides legs, spirals, etc... until you are tortured. Jason had to make sure he knew how to get out of there AND keep people down if he wanted, and though Judo may help with that, he no doubt learned from other tough wrestlers in the Albany and surrounding areas. I mostly wrestled in the "souther tier" area, near the PA. border and it's not easy there either. I wish I had trained with Jason to get even a small fraction of how good he was, then I would have had extra game on the feet. At least I had a decent near-ankle level shot that caught people flat footed and a few other quick picks etc... but not enough to get me to the finals. Great footage! Thanks for showing us the video.
Yes please! Pls post extensive vids and break downs! 😀
Having practiced Judo for 15 years as a kid, I always get excited when I see Judo in MMA. I hope this video is eye opening to many young fighters, and we will get to see more Judo moves having the better of wrestlers in times to come. The key to Jason Morris' success is the modified hand grip he has had to perfect in a no-gui situation. The rest of the techniques are the same - and aren't they spectacular!
Yes that really is the only obstacle that stands in the way for Judoka interested in MMA. In my opinion the first to ever modify the grips successfully in MMA was Karo parisyan, if you want to see good Judo in MMA look up him and Rick Hawn.
I know Parysyan and I will look up Rick Hawn. The question is, has Judo been under utilized in MMA so far, or, at an even skill level, does wrestling really cancel out Judo? I believe (and hope) that it is the former. I believe wrestling has been so dominant because Americans practice it but there exists other effective styles of bringing your opponent down to the ground and controlling him.
@@David-tp7sr if you look into the history of Judo vs wrestling. Judo has dominated.
Karo Parisyan's instructional book Judo for MMA has been very helpful for me to adjust the grips to no gi submission wrestling. He's good to learn from as well.
quality content as always! im looking forward to seeing the seminar
Thank you Tristar I look forward to meeting you all!
Looking forward to this!
Damn, I wish I lived in Montreal. Will look forward to watching the video either way.
im aware he is wearing wrestling shoes, but the way this guy hooks the opponent leg with his own foot is very impressive
This mans osoto gari game is awesome. Mine is very hip throwy but I know a few guys who has a similar style to his but all of us are different.
Amazing!!!
This looks awesome!
can't wait for that video
This video is a game changer for me, can't wait for him to go to Tristar
Darn wish I lived closer to montreal.
Aero The Archer me too :(
Looking forward on tthat video man...
Those trips look so smooth
I cant wait :)
I am a judo blue belt and I have a very similliar style to his one.I can honestly say that you can learn a lot from this guy.
Ty
judo and wrestling are very synergistic. It goes both ways, dont expect to 'crush' a wrestler whos done, or even been exposed, to a bit of judo.
Some highlights!
Ad Santel went to Japan and became the Judo world champion. He was a Catch Wrestler in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Every no-gi Judo throw is in freestyle and CACC wrestling. Most wrestling throws are in Judo as well this Cross pollination happened when Japanese jiu-jitsu practitioners fought Catch Wrestlers in the late 19th century. You will find in many CACC manuals of the time Jiu-jitsu chokes and arm locks clearly labeled as such. CACC is a true hybrid system.
AS IS JUDO & JIUJITSU
Well put
I like how he utilise Judo without a Gi.
A master of balance and human movement
wow that is very impressive
Guy just looks like a perfect hybrid. Just somemore tools and more ways to win.
Do you think a wrestler with very good ankle picks and low single legs(cael sanderson type wrestler) would be able to use those moves to counter a game like Jason's?
wow this sounds fantastic.. my son does wrestling/judo and jiu jitsu. I love seeing this highlight reel. I would to do this seminar with him he is only 8 tho.
RealSteelJyn come down would love to meet you guys.
Tristar Gym wow that would actually be awesome! how do I become a member?
Tristar Gym Hi, again I would like to come with my son. we are from the Toronto area can we buy tickets online to ensure we have a spot?
No way me too
Where's the episode ?
Is this open to everyone? Even if I only have little experience (white belt) in jiu jitsu?
If so, how can I sign up (never been to Tristar yet)?
Morris is the real deal
I'm in CA and can't make it. Please make a video for us tristar fans who can't be there in person professor!
I love judo throws
dam it, would love to come, but I live on the other side of the planet
firas is there any practical usage of training gi judo? does it apply over to self defence and no gi work?
Why did this seminar not get posted?
Was the video for this seminar ever released?
Can I reupload this video? I think its really good.
I will be attending, are there any good hotels to stay at near TriStar?
I do judo. it's a brilliant art.
Are you familiar with the Head and Ride (a la Josh Barnett) Firas?
I am a judo brown belt and I am moving to wrestling any tips?
Powerful uchi mata!
6 Years later and still no video!
I guess words don't mean a lot to some.
His throws remind me a lot of the Saitiev brothers
does this dude have any dvd's or instructionals he has put out?
Brother where is the whole seminar?
to implement judo throws and techniques in wrestling is golden cause they fit so perfectly in judo. I ve walking around a long time thinking when someone is gonna do it.
The wrestlers never knew what hit them. The Judoka on the other hand is fully aware of their limited repertoire.
Where's this video? I can't find it, can anyone help?
Only $100 for a seminar on No-Gi Judo with a 4 TIME OLYMPIAN? That would have EASILY been worth the extra cost for hotel fare and plane ticket to Montreal.
Watch Tony Okada!!! One of the best Judo Wresters ever..
Jason Morris went to my highschool
Дзю-до - мощь и сила!
wheres the video??
How do i get the lecture from jason morriss?
Holy shit
Where's the video Firas??
You are right Jason Morris has a unique style, just great, it's a counter wrestling style also.
Im really curious how he would wrestle against imo the greatest wrestler all the time Buvaisar Saitiev since Saitiev has also a kind of a counter wrestling but much different from Morris.
What the ama on training?
I saw a girl who weighed under 100lbs have a lot of success vs varsity High school boys using judo. She was throwing these young men around even though some wrestled 2 & 3 weight classes above her. The stuff works!
abboxeoko yes... When taught and practiced right....
Do judokas have good takedown defense
Hi Firas
First of let me start out by saying how much I enjoy your youtube videos. Hope you keep them coming. I'm sure you are very busy, but I would like to ask what are your thoughts on Cerrone and his corner men during his fight vs Masvidal. Specifically, after he was knocked down at the end of the first round. In between rounds he clearly looked dazed and out of it at least to me. Had you been in his corner would you have stopped the fight or not, and why? Also have you ever been in a similar situation and what would it take for you to stop the fight on behalf of your fighter and his safety? It is hard to gauge how often this happens in UFC/MMA since throwing the towel seems to be more of a boxing thing. I have seen very few fights stopped between rounds in the UFC in the last 5 years of watching UFC fights, and when it does happen it is hard to tell whether it was stop by a doctor, referee, the fighters corner or even the fighter himself. Is this something you discuss with your fighters, and how might a conversation like that go? I ask because there doesn't seems to be a lot discussion on this subject in mma circles, at least not in depth. The reason I ask this now is, I thought the chance of seeing a corner stick their neck out to stop a fight and protect their fighter was as good as we will see. The reason I say this it seems fairly obvious that there is a culture in mma that fighters have to appear extremely tough and don't give up under any circumstance and the coaches/corner men are unwilling to stop fights so as not to upset their fighters.I say this because the corner men Jackson/Wicklejohn are two of the most respected in mma, Cerrone seems like one of the more easy going fighters in the UFC, they have long standing relationship between the three of them and the risk of Cerrone leaving their camp and them incurring a financial loss or damaging their friendship was minimal relatively speaking. And still we didn't see a stoppage. I understand that their are more reasons why a corner wouldn't stop a fight. One of the reasons I ask you these questions is that you are in a very unique position at least when it comes to high profile and highly respected coaches. You have been around for a long time and have had many different relationships with many fighters, a close relationship with arguably the best UFC fighter of all time, the likes of Rory, now your own brother and fighters that you haven't yet developed a personal relationship with (I recently watched the Tristar Gym series from FightNetwork). How might all these contrasting relationships and/or other factors influence your consideration/decision to stop a fight? I understand you are a bit of a philosopher and you might have some thoughts to add to this important and under discussed subject.
There's something magical about footsweeps, they severely underappreciated.
Proof Chael Sonnon doesn't know what hes talking about
man he says judo sucks for mma and then says greco is the best style for mma the sentence after🤔
I agree with you, but you would think there was more successful judokas other then Ronda Rousey and Karo parisyan
@@xy5844 gi vs no gi
@@fightnfeastjudoka simply aren't that interested in MMA. Brazil is a strong judo country but few want to go to MMA.. Plus you only mentioned two out of more. All sambo guys are basically judoka (not just bc it's basically the same as judo, but literally all sambo guys are also judo black belts).
Also, even in submission grappling, a lot of guys are already integrating judo takedowns, esp the sweeps and even banned takedowns from old judo (Gordon Ryan uses a lot of sweeps, and he used the scissor takedown against Bo nickal a lot).
@@Veritas-dq2hs "judoka simply aren't that interested"
How could you know? You made a survey? Satoshi Ishii was obviously interested lol he just sucks 🤣🤷 Just like Ben Spijkers and Paweł Nastula. 🤣
"Brazil is a strong judo country but few want to go to MMA"
Probably because they would get their butts handled to them in a silver plate. Rafaela Silva herself quite going to MMA. Judo sucks for MMA, this is why is so rare even tho it has so many practitioners.
However the caucuses style judo is wrestling to them and they do a lot of different wrestling throws in there brand of judo, watch guys from Georgia like Irakli Tsirekidze in the 2008 Olympics at 98 kilos and the Mongolians do judo plus my favorite Pawel Nastula
Rouseys judo always countered wrestling well
No leg picks in Judo since 2010. Why do you think that is? And did Jason Morris make the Olympic Wrestling team?
they wanted a more spectacular judo to be more successful on tv. I've also heard they were increasingly annoyed by wrestlers competing in judo and winning by using just those, but that's clearly unverifiable.
It was not because of "wrestlers winning everything". It was because crappy shoots were used as a stall tactic when you were ahead on points by high level judokas.
offer a paid live strem!
How the hell does he do that?
Coach do you think that a bjj fighter can beat up both a freestyle wrestler and judoka in a grappling match? (Please answer)
On concrete? Probably not. Of equal skill levels on padded floor? easily. Wrestlers don't train submissions so they put themselves into bad positions without knowing the defense needed, and judoka due to ruleset only know ground game very shallow. Give the BJJ fighter time to work and they'll walk through both
You can watch plenty of Bjj vs Judo or Freestyle here on TH-cam. Just a warning, the results may shock you, there seems to be a misconception about how much time judoka spend working on ne-waza.
judo competitors indeed are better than most people think at newaza, but they are very specialized. They DO train to hold or sub from the top, specially following a throw so from a favourable position, but they basically never train guard (i've actually met people who have no idea what the guard is!), and certainly train no offense at all form the guard as usually the moment you close your guard the referee breaks the so-called "inaction", in olympic judo. In fact, their go-to defense is usually to just turtle on the mat until the attacker gives up or the referee break.
i dont think so
In a only submission grappling match for sure, that's bjj specialty.
Where is the "ask me anything" about training? o.O
I ask the same thing
cooking that up sir
Lots of osoto gari and makikomi throws.
theres a judoka guy who decided to pick up sumo in japan. imagine a smaller white guy judo tripping and throwing 300lbs japanese sumo wrestlers. its pretty boss. look it up on youtube
With all due respect, Jason Morris has some great no gi Judo, but so do the Team Hayastan guys. Gokor, Gene Lebell, Karo etc..
Is it freestyle wrestling he's competing in in these clips?
Yes
Certain countries in Europe like Central and Eastern places judo are more like the old Soviet Union style but Western Europe and the West period judo is more like the Japanese
It’s not a judo guy beating wrestlers it’s a great wrestler with great judo skills beating wrestlers, big difference.
Sounds like Judo should redo its whole style and base it around the stuff Jason does that works against wrestlers. Then it could become relevant again.
It's the second most popular martial art in the world.
the first one being taekwondo. But why are they so popular? Olympics, simply put. If you're not in the olympic games, the competitive scene is worth much, MUCH less (in terms of money gravitating around it, be it nationally invested money, prizes and awards, publicity, or anything else), so athletes can't really make a living off it, so they switch or give up. Much more than people think is about money, in the martial arts world.
reason you don't see judokas in wrestling, is because 99% of judokas do Judo... all the techniques shown in this video are basic Judo throws, with no gi grips. Nothing unique or magical about it, but the practitioner is an Olympian so he makes it look easy. Put illiadis in a wrestling singlet and you'd see the same shit.
I would love to see Iliadis and Kayla Harrison pursue MMA, to put those Ippons to good use!!
Not quite. As awesome as Jason Morris is, and I agree with coach Zahabi that his approach to no-gi standing is unique and well worth learning, we also have to keep things in perspective. Most of the footage here is from in-state competitions in the state of New York in the 1980s and early 90s. Notice how tall everyone is standing, which fits Morris's style perfectly. Now maybe he is just really good at tying his opponents up in a way that forces them to wrestle more upright, but I don't think that is the entire reason. People just used to wrestle that way.
Over the years the increasing importance of the leg attack game in wrestling has led to lower and lower stances, it's actually getting to the point of being a bit ridiculous these days how shot-oriented high school and college wrestling is. Entering a college-level tournament today and expecting to toss people would be a lot more difficult for a judoka simply because they would be forced to grapple out of an extremely crouched over stance they are not at all comfortable with.
Einar Friðgeirs I agree. That extreme low stance if today is hard to deal with. I wrestled for two seasons in high school back in the mid nineties and upper body wrestling was on it's way out then. Snap downs, singles, doubles, and front headlocks were the focus because doing any shoulder, foot sweep or hip throw was not only hard to pull off but was easy to counter.
@@MeleDrummer Lucky you :)
As the great Jagori Kano himself said: it's not the art but the man!
Barry Irlandi Jigoro*
Budo Jutsu thanks.
i always prefered judo over wrestling/jiujitsu as a grappling base. prolly best for grip, hip strength and throws u dont learn from other arts. and judo schools are very common and easier to find than good jiujitsu schools or even wrestling. well at least where i live:p
if he were to try the most highlighted throw on olympic level wrestlers he would be lifted up off the floor and suplexed, that style of throw only works in split second scrambles not with a guy completely in control but not competent enough to lift and suplex.
mondehet you clearly didnt see hes stopping the suplex by grapevinning the throw so he can not be lifted..try rewatching without your ego.
no, he's either doing it in split second scrambles which i acknowledged it being a good move for OR he is in a position to be easily lifted off the ground (opponents arms locked around his body whilst both in upright stance) which completely stops him from throwing.... my issue with this video is the title being judo vs wrestling and focusing on a state champion, not that being a state champion isn't good but lets be honest about what we're watching and that is a much much lower level of wrestling to what is at the elite level.
I have a BJJ channel and I fight stangers, check it
kills wrestling? 1st it is wrestling. 2nd if your going to say that. then it should be said traditional wrestler (in my opinion). don't believe me? Watch satiev hes been doin this for a long time.
Nathaniel Brown 4x judo Olympian
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And no gi judo doesn't work some say.....
The problem again is that the mma community thinks that all judo from all countries are the same
judo have more techniques
Great video but the Judo vs Wrestling title makes this look like some kind of crummy art vs art video that litters youtube. This is much more than that.,
Amazing!