DID IT AGAIN! MAIDEN AND CRASH Freewing 70mm Vulcan 6s by FGFRC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2023
- Well I did it again, same spot as the EFlite F-16. But not signal loss this time it was brain loss from the fat Guy. Maiden and crash of the freewing 70mm vulcan 6s. That hurt!! Completely my fault, not the plane.
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Well this seems eerily familiar???!!!
God Bless you sir for your honesty and integrity 👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for the kind words and the visit!
It happens to all that really fly. She made an excellent lawn dart! say a prayer and on to next. time spent crying is time lost to flying ..lol Hope the rest fair much better.
Well I learned from this so it is not a total loss. Thanks!
Crashes 💥 are apart of the hobby and FuN 🤩
If you never crash then either you are never flying or lying about it.LOL
Aww man that's rough.
And just like that poo happens.
I'm sorry for your loss.
My Volantex 750mm has been my Learning Experiences plane.
She has so much hot glue in her nose in her nose I now have mounted her battery under her tail feather to CG correctly. 😆
Just kidding about the CG of course.
Love your vids.
Thanks for sharing the good and the bad.
We learn more from defeats than victories. Thanks!
Yep , I know the feeling especially when you know better. It happened to me yesterday. 😂
Yeah It was completely avoidable.
I can honestly say I’ve never crashed
between the hours of 12-5 am.
The feeling you just had I’ve experienced on my birthday once. A BD present of a .45 Super Sportster I got a week early, assembled, flew on my birthday and looked to my wife as I pulled vertical to show her the performance. I looked back just in time to see it go in straight down at full throttle burying up to my wrist into the ground. I never cuss either.
Between the hours of 4-5 am if I happen to be asleep. Let’s just say I was awake and it was daylight.
I hate to see it but you’re a good sport! Ya have to be to enjoy this addiction.
LOL great share and thank you!
If this was a balsa model it would be confetti. That fuse is repairable with cocktail sticks and appropriate adhesive!
I just might at least practice repairing.
It happens. I like having the safe for when I get disoriented.
Well I have replaced her with my new one and have several flights on the new one. This was a old video. If I did not love her I would not have replaced her. Thanks for stopping by.
Don't know how I missed this one - sorry man - this is a good example of why I do almost all of my maidens with a SAFE/AS3X RX onboard, then after several flights I might replace it with a standard RX, When I first saw the crash I thought well thats toast but then as you walked up to it I thought umm should be easy to repair, then as you told us what you found, your right get a new one and keep this one as spares... althought I never trust servos etc.. once they have had a bash like that ... Really did feel for you , towards the end of the video I felt as if you were talking to yourself and convincing yourself these things happen - if it helps I feel for you - I had a A10 last all of 3 mins on a maiden and that even had SAFE - I failed to secure the battery and it shifted into the nose in flight and - SPLAT..... so yes It does happen it is all part of the Hobby , a hobby with highs and lows. literally LOL .. stay the course my Friend ...
The esc and edf found a new home in a Frewing Bae Hawk ARF. Flown the mess out of it since then and replaced the vulcan again and am loving it got about 15 flights on it and very happy with it. I will never try to check CG by trying inverted flight for sure.
a little buffing; good as new...sorry to see that...I guess you didn't hear me screaming "down, down elevator"...yeah, check that batt. real well; out side !!! have a great weekend...
Yeah I panicked and then froze!!
It's okay been there I've done It to .goes with the sport, but you still are an awesome flier, Aloha brother.
Thanks, you too! If you aint crashing you aint flying!!
That's a real bummer buddy, little foamtak and she'll be good as new 😉 Keep up the fun videos 👍
That's the plan!
Sorry to see your loss. When I fly inverted I move my thumb from the top of the stick to the side of the stick nearest to me so I can't pull in up elevator and it's a reminder
Thanks. good tip
I feel sad for the beautiful plane, bad but good experience
Well my second one is flying high!!! Thanks for the visit.
Thanks for showing your crashes complete with emotional response, I resemble that remark, lol. I've bought a Vmar Kitfox. After seeing yours veering off to the left, I added a few degrees right deflection to the motor and made mine a tricycle gear. Wish me luck! God Bless!!
Good luck and fair skies!! Thanks for the kind words and the visit!
Be sure to have a lot of aileron-rudder mix. The adverse yaw is tremendous because of the full length and fully flying ailerons. In the full sized kitfox you fly using rudder and coordinate the turns with aileron. If you use only ailerons when you bank left the airplane will turn to the right. Very confusing..... Rudder man rudder, lots of it in the mix.
When you are inverted down is up and up is expensive 🤣🤣
Very. I tried something with a unfamiliar jet, Stupid and expensive. i should have known better.
When you get it fixed and get the feel of the place you will luv flying her stuff happens
Like a phoenix she will rise again in some form or other.
Sorry about the incident... AR620 does have an internal antenna. I recommend an AR630, I love that receiver.
Thanks The ar620 and 30 are both great receivers.
Self-level mode has helped me out more than I’d like to admit.
I won’t ever fly with out the option of safe.
It is a good tool.
Man sorry about your vulcan such a nice jet , don't feel like the Lone Ranger I've done the same thing with my viper and it had safe. Hang in there and stay safe. Mr. glue Harvey. Keep the videos coming.
As long as the good Lord lets me I will keep flying sharing!! Thanks for the kind words and the visit!
Sad loss of a lovely plane, trying to do too much on a maiden......... part of the hobby
Well I replaced this one and have MANY good flights on her.
EDF’s have a high wing loading & higher speed which gives it a wider turn rate. When you put in control it’s best to feed in input and wait for the response rather than ending upsides down. Orientation tips leave gear down & eye tests
True I just made a rookie mistake and got disoriented. I should have never tried an inverted cg test on this plane and certain atley not on a plane I am unfamiliar with.
Well - lessons learned are just that ! Personally I would never fly a new maiden model beyond at least a few batteries through it - getting used to how it flys , how it looks in the air , how close or far can I got before orientation becomes an issue. After I have established that particular planes boundaries with me as a pilot - then and only then would I attempt any advanced maneuvers .. just food for thought - Safe is fine - but flying beyond good line of sight depending on the days flying conditions is always a risk. Cheers
YeahI got cocky and it cost me.
Sorry for your crash mr. Some weeks ago l smash my decatlon the same way. , but wr dont give up 😊
Never give up and thanks!!
Hot glue and tooth picks can work miracles. 😊
That it can!! I prefer Gorilla Brand glue sticks.
No need to apologize! It’s part of the hobby, we’re all always learning. Bird still looks good in pieces, if it were wood it’d be toothpicks! lol.
Thanks for the kind words and the visit!
Safe definitely….that feature saved me so much time when doing tricks 😅
My next one will have a SAFE rx in her.
😂😂, I feel your pain , I wish I could send you another one. "If I had known always come after" 😂😂
Yeah hind sight is clear. Thanks so much!
I feel your pain! Today while flying my Arrows T-28. I was rolling to inverted and had it dive suddenly and slam into the runway Totally destroying it, totally. I threw the Safe switch, and even heard "safe on" but it was still too late. I'm still trying to figure out what happened. My timing was similar to your Vulcan crash. I still think you wouldn't have had time.
It's crazy watching your video last night and replicating it today. Walk of shame!
Peace from California!
Well I did have time but I froze and just watched, Rookie mistake. I should have had many more flights with this edf before trying an inverted cg check like that.Other jets of similar design I had done that many times without issue.
Sorry man, but it was probably them crazy lights and extra decals 😎😎. The CG for the Vulcan is done using the tail sit method without the canopy.
In hind sight I will NEVER try that inverted flight to check cg again.
Wow ! You just gave me flash backs .. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ sorry about that buddy 😢😢 😢😢 you will Tame Her .. get her back up ..
Either her or a ARF with her heart in it.
Perhaps the most interesting RC crash sight I've seen... I mean with all those lights flashing it looked pretty cool. 😊
Joking aside, sorry for your loss. When crashes like this (or "landing" in trees) happens to me I go through the Would'a, Could'a, Should'a for 2 or 3 days before I get it out of my head.
Looking more like a new plane then a repaired plane to me.
Well you have to weight , repairs vs new parts vs replacement. Then make a decisions as to what is the best path. In this case I am going to harvest the parts and put into a ARF jet and then practice repairs on the fuse pieces to start showing how that is done.
I really hope you revisit this plane it's my favorite plane and I think you will fall in love with it like I did
I will but I have other projects ahead of it. I plan on rebuying this Vulcan and the FW A-6 . Both had crashes that were completely avoidable and i want to redeem myself with them.
Yes I recommend SAFE as a backup. Have planes that have flown hundreds of times. Have dozens of times used the panic button save me.
Yeah I did not have a SAFE receiver in this however.
Safe only works if you have a quick reaction, having enough altitude. Most of us have the crash jackets. It will fly again! I do set up safe for just in case. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks so much!
As a newbie,but no stranger to crashing, I’ve found by crashes, yes it’s painfully part of this awesome hobby… you sir have more successful flights on your channel👍🏼👍🏼.. subscribed!!!!
Thanks and thanks for the sub. I subded back. You have some pretty scenery on your channel.
@@FatGuyFliesRC thank you,very very much…but I’m aiming to learn a ton from you👍👍👍👍👍
@@FatGuyFliesRC btw… I ordered the Arrow Trekker so impressed by you review…
I'm so sorry about your plane and I know exactly how you feel. I'm a one year flier and I thought about giving up because I already destroyed my commander. Same exact thing. Practicing inverted and a wind gust pushed it down. I overcorrected and went into a vertical stall then lawn dart. It takes me awhile to save up for these planes. I feel sorry for you but please know that you made me want to stick with it by the things you were saying. If you never crash your not flying! I get so frustrated sometimes and instead of enjoying it I come home all bitchy lol. Lesson you taught me is learn to accept it. It's part of the hobby
If I have any positive impact on people with this site then all my defeats and victories on this channel are justified. Thank you!
Sorry for the loss theses jets sure can get away from us quick fast and in a hurry.
Thanks for the kind words and the visit!
Lights led you directly to the scene of the crash.
To be honest, the damage doesn't seem too bad. Fixable even!
New fuse and nose gear. Total about $118 plus tax. it will be on the back buenner for a while though.
Sorry to see , it does happen , just try to put yrs between crashes , on a brighter note the sparkling lights at the crash scene looked cool
Well If we don't learn from this then it truly is a loss.
That was crazy, hope you can fix it
i will be harvesting her for parts and practice foam repair on her until i am good enough to show how to do it.
That was not a case of inadequate skills, just a momentary lack of focus, which can happen when you're so accomplished you don't have to be on your toes. I know an electrical engineer who tried to install a new plug on his fridge -- and blacked out his neighbourhood. And Einstein reportedly never managed to calculate the right amount of change when shopping for groceries. Same phenomenon. Don't worry about it.
Well I look at crashes as a powerful learning tool and a wake up call to respect these little missiles of carbon and plastic. Thanks for the kind words and the visit!
it my be helpful to check if the receiver is blinking in case of a brownout before unplugging the battery.
It wasnt
The lights hanging off the wing tips are likely disrupting air flow.
Not enough to cause the crash. I have used them on many other jets that just or faster with no issue. I crashed that plane because I tried somthing I have never done.it was my fault not the Vulcan. I have replaced it and have several successful flights and it is one of my favorites to fly.
It looked like aero stall when you tried to flip it. More likely nose heavy than the lights. I would leave them off until you get it dialed in. I've darted jets in similar fashion. @@FatGuyFliesRC
I have the 6s version. Fast and sleek. Defiantly one of my favorites. @@FatGuyFliesRC
Sorry, Gary. Appreciate your honesty. We’ve all been there, but not everyone admits their role. (i.e. “I’ve been hit.”)
yeah it was my mistake for sure. nothing wrong with the plane.
It's unfortunate but I thought it would of been worse, repairable still a sad experience.
Well I will need a new fuse, front gear , decals and battery canopy. Or just harvest the parts and put it in a ARF like the 70mm Bae Hawk I just bought.
@@FatGuyFliesRC I burned up my P 51, I feel your pain. I don't know if I want to rebuild or or part it out..
Not a crash... more room in the hanger!
LOL yep!
Hmm .. if flying inverted, place thumb/fingers at bottom of stick, so it’s push only.
Yeah not my shining moment for sure.
You would be ahead just to use it for parts and buy a whole new plane. I fly with a guy that looses one to two planes every other time he comes to the field. So he just buys more airplanes and starts all over again. Sorry about your loss.
Well the plan is to start practicing foam repair and rebuilding the fuse. In the mean time I will be using the edf unit and esc in a freewing Bae hawk ARF.
Well, them 3 mistakes thing didn't work out so well did it lol
Nope the didn't but I have many good flights on the replacement.
Oh Jeez. I really feel for you. That's the kind of stunt I would pull. You took it in very good grace, even apologising to the viewer. These vids are helpful to us though, hopefully avoiding similar mistakes. Hope you manage to get her re-built. Thank you for sharing, you're a star ! .... Oh, btw, I love the lights, should help with orientation, as you say. Can you please advise what brand they are ? and i'll try and source in the UK, when I finally get my jet purchase sorted. (Phil, UK)
Thanks so much! and here is my light link: www.amazon.com/gp/buyagain/ref=pd_rhf_d_ee_s_rp_c_sccl_1_6/133-3669816-8171222?pd_rd_w=csAZ2&content-id=amzn1.sym.9d09eb23-e409-456c-a62e-d6e7fcc2faec&pf_rd_p=9d09eb23-e409-456c-a62e-d6e7fcc2faec&pf_rd_r=0ZC9YY5DXYGT5ANEGFG5&pd_rd_wg=sBXSy&pd_rd_r=e886ea34-81cc-4ebe-bfd7-9c55ce7061ce&pd_rd_i=B07MPLKXGN&ats=eyJleHBsaWNpdENhbmRpZGF0ZXMiOiJCMDdNUExLWEdOIiwiYXNpbkludGVyYWN0ZWQiOiJ0cnVlIiwiY3VzdG9tZXJJZCI6IkEyWklDOFQzR0pBTTJMIn0=
@@FatGuyFliesRC That's great, thanks. Good to see the Avanti was a whole lot less drama....
What state are you in? Looks warm there.
Central Florida. I subded.
That sucks, hate to see that..
Yeah well its part of the hobby.
@@FatGuyFliesRC don't I know it lol, got a heap of broken planes 😂
Hi Fat Guy…are you sure this wasn’t a signal loss situation? After the first flight your Flight Log showed 275 Fades and 3 Holds! This is unusual for a 1 minute and 49 second flight. And you said that the same thing happened to you in the exact same spot with another plane. So I’m not convinced that this was completely pilot error. 🤷🏽♂️
It is entirely possible but not the spektrums fault many of my club members have lost planes in that exact same spot and there are futaba , frsky, jr and spektrum and other that have lost planes there. To close to the power lines and the right combination of moisture in the air it seems in that spot.
I honestly don't think Safe would've rescued that. She was coming into the ground too quick and see her high speed stall as you tried to rescue it. Think switching on Safe would've had the exact same effect. Good luck with the repair 👍🏾
Good point!
Not the cause of the crash but about those easy lights: I would toss them or save them for the Christmas tree. They are chunky and induce what is called parasite drag.
I could see that.
Well you are onest. Othe pilotes just show thair success but never show there mistakes. Any experience pitote can crash. I do some time. I know how you fill. ☹️
I ALWAYS show crashes! You will learn ten times more from a crash then you ever will from a success!
It may he worth the time to peel the heat shrink just to see if any cardboard liner is crinkled instead of a cell. Safety first, but a quick look might be worth it.
True
WALK OF FAME LOOKING FORWARD TOO CRASHING EVERYBODY CRASHES SOMETIMES
If you never crash you are lying about it....lol
Next time don’t put lights and other thing on the plane b4 the maiden flight . You had 3 lights behind the Cg . May have helped the maiden flight go better
Entirely possible I did not consider that.
Crash and the comment to view rate goes up. Maybe a chance to cover how to repair foam planes..... 160 F to 165 F water dunking the crunched parts under for several minutes to expand the foam to near original shape. Then dry the parts and glue together. What to use for filling divots, what glue to use, what paints to use. Repairs are part of the hobby unless the $ is unlimited. Crashes are good entertainment but hard on the owner..... sorry man!
Thanks so much, yeah I need to start doing more repair and maintenance type videos. pet schnuddle for me.
She rolled so fast to inverted I had to pause the video over and over to catch it. So hard to keep orientation far and high with a jet. So sorry.
It was just a rookie mistake then I froze or lost focus.
Just buy another one, but we ain't getting no younger, and i'm sure you really deserve it. That's what I do anyway.
I will be and a have spare parts now. But It maty be a few months for the plane budget to bounce back.
Nice excuses you might consider keeping it in Safe for a few more years. he he
Too late
Choke Yeager.
Yep I am afraid so.
@@FatGuyFliesRC It happens. I framed up and maiden'd a Dynaflight .40 size P-51 and put a total POS Fox .61 on it back in '89. Doing last minute adjustments to the ailerons (one servo for both) I ran out of room on one of the rods so took the horn off the servo to jump over a tooth. Failed to put the servo screw back in. Horrific crash after half a pattern after it vibrated off. On Maiden! Had it but didn't even get to trim. Big first. First low wing, tail dragger and unforgettable mistake. Repaired and re-wrecked several times. Got 6-7 seasons out of it. Shrug it off hah! This hobby is a cold hearted bitch. Happy landings there Large Guy Flies RC.
Capita ..... Però usare un sistema panic o giroscopio su un modello del genere non ha senso.... Essendo un jet trainer che perdona tantissimo tra le altre cose... Lo stallo é qualcosa di inesistente nel vulcan come gli atterraggi sono tranquillissimi anche senza utilizzare full flap
Oh trust my I screwed up all the way around with this one. On my second Vulcan I am doing MUCH better!
@@FatGuyFliesRC you should try the super fun taileron mode 😁 the turns are very tight
@@eugeniominella Might just!
@@FatGuyFliesRC se poi ti stufi del vulcan ti consiglio un bel viperjet blakhorse gustosissimo
You zigged when you should have zagged. It happens
Well I tried to do something I had never done and with a new plane on its maiden. Recipe for disaster. Never try the inverted cg test on a jet when you have no idea how the plane will react to inverted flight yet!!!
Trying to fly a fast jest upside down?
Try it on a simulator first
True but I just had a brain fart and It cost me.
Hey one more thing, admitting your mistake is the sign of a great pilot. No excuse and you learn and move on. The worst pilots at my field have the best excuses except the excuse they see in the mirror.
Well I have always known you will learn ten times more from a crash than any great landings.
That is not good!
Hey girl. thanks
Don't beat yourself up buddy.. I would reinforce with carbon fiber while gluing it back together, touch it up with magic markers 🤠
Well I am going to be practicing foam repair on the fuse and in the mean time I am using the EDF unit and esc in a Freewing Bae hawk ARF.
lol