Understanding The Class Action Baby Bottle Lawsuit
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- Baby bottle manufacturers are getting sued and parent's are worried. Let's skip click bait and fear mongering and talk about what is happening in practical terms. Here are the basics on what the concern about microplastics in your baby bottles is about and some risk mitigation strategies that may help you to feel more confident in your infant feeding options.
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It’s also important to look at your own intake as a mother. Microplastics can end up in your milk if you consume anything from a plastic container that was heated up.
I’ve always used the thick glass bottles they have lasted for both of my girls my avent ones are over five years old and have never cracked. We need to use less plastic as a whole it’s so bad for our bodies.
I primarily used Avent and Dr. Brown Brown glass bottles with my son, any plastic bottles i have will be going in the trash…thanks for this informative video
Same here. The first month I was not in a solid headspace but realized by week 4 that glass bottles existed and stopped using plastic bottles.
I wanted to use glass bottles with my son, but when my MIL would watch him she complained they were too heavy so she had to use the plastic ones. She does have RA, so I have to be understanding. People can only do what they can do. I primarily breastfed any way so, the total intake wasn’t that bad. I tried to drink out of glass or stainless steel whenever possible.
Sadly nano-plastics are everywhere. You can’t escape it. But you can reduce the amount given to children.
So glad this is actually being talked about. Microplastics were the first things I thought about. I’m pregnant with my first and I only have glass bottles. Never once did I consider getting her plastic. And especially when it comes to heating the bottles, my first thoughts were, “is it even safe to put a plastic bottle in a bottle warmer/bottle sterilizer?” Because I know heat makes plastic bottles shed more or something like that. The same reason why you shouldn’t drink from a plastic water bottle that’s been sitting in your car. Even with my colostrum collectors, I immediately went straight for the silicone vials and I’m steering clear of the plastic syringes.
I had never even considered the plastic syringe concern- I will have to look into that more!
Just sharing that if you have concerns about microplastics you shouldn’t use bottled water at all. During transport to retailers the bottles are sitting in hot trailers and warehouses.
Some glass bottles have lead though so not any better
@@ArynNicolee oh yeah, I’ve pretty much boycotted disposable plastic bottles. The microplastics and the ingredients in what should just be water concern me. Call me paranoid but it’s for a good reason.
I went down the microplastic rabbit hole with Baby 2. But then I realized my pump parts are plastic, and all my breast milk is going to be stored in a plastic bag, so, then it becomes a question of minimizing rather than eliminating. I got a nice response from the President of MayMom (a plastics engineer with a PhD from Duke) about why he prefers PP plastic to PPSU- in short, because (1) PPSU is patented and more expensive, (2) it still sheds microplastics, (3) the risks of PP plastics are fairly well known because it’s been around a long time whereas PPSU is newer so there could be risks we won’t know it til later. Then I realized that just about all plastic bottle makers recommend tossing them after 6 months anyhow, both PP and PPSU. like the Dr Brown Glass bottles because they dry quickly. They are sturdy, too. My daycare provider isn’t scared of glass. She’s old school.
This is where I'm at as well. There is no elimination possible to I'm gonna focus all my energy of things I can control :)
I hand washed all of our baby bottles because I saw them literally melting in the dishwasher. The bottle neck would be slightly warped, just enough that the collars wouldn’t fit on properly anymore. I figured that was enough for me to realize that they don’t belong in the dishwasher. I didn’t even think about the micro plastics aspect.
Even pay attention to sippy cups and putting them in the dishwasher…1.5-2hr cycles in immense heat. I wash mine by hand.
Agree with giving baby cold milk. I didnt even know about microplastic concern. I was just too sleep derived to mess with hot waters or warmer equipments 4 or 5 times a night. So cold milk it was and baby really didnt care.
This wasn’t on my radar last time I was feeding a baby either!
I work in a hospital NICU, and I let the milk warm up at room temperature instead of putting it in the warmer.
We have left 1 bottle at room temp before first sleep. He drinks through that one then we have another bottle with pre measured formula and water bottle ready to be mixed. He is just fine with room temp milk.
Also, breast milk is good for 8 hours- that’s a full night.
It was in mines mainly because of brain freeze from cold drinks but the fact I see so many moms saying they done this and it went well I will give it a try and see how baby handle it. Thank you!
All of my babies do/did accept room-temp formula. We put formula powder in one of the little breastmilk bottles, and put the water in the regular bottle. When the baby wakes up, you just gotta dump the powder into the water and shake. Easy peasy.
So just to clarify, all plastic baby bottles regardless of manufacturer have the same microplastic risk, it’s just that Avent and Dr. Browns are the only ones labeled “BPA Free” which gives consumers a false sense of safety?
Per the lawsuit that is the complaint but Avent and Dr Browns are being singled out despite many others doing this. This is a strange lawsuit to say the least
Yes, BPA is just one type of bad plastics
Please post a bottle cleaning video!
I have another bottle option that I really enjoy that isn’t as expensive. Boon bottles. Everything the milk touches is silicone. Not as good as glass, but better than traditional plastic.
Waiting on your video on how to properly wash/disinfect the bottles, please!
It’s on the to do list :)
I wash them with a bottle brush. Water + soap = clean.
I've literally never disinfected them with heat or bleach. It's been fine for all 3 of my babies.
I ALWAYS give glass bottles as Shower gifts
I did everything I could as a new mother to keep my baby safe and healthy. And as soon as she started crawling she would eat random things on the ground. One time she chewed a foam toy and ate some of the foam. And another time she was chewing my sunglasses case and ate some of the leather. So I would tell moms out there to relax, you’re kids going to consume chemicals whether u like it or not. 😂
Literally 😂😂😂😂😂
Truth! Haha my mom did everything to be all natural with me (cloth diapers, EBF, all homemade baby food, wooden toys, etc) and still found me playing around in the cat box one day and eating her contact lenses another day. True story 😅 We try our best as moms, but we gotta give ourselves some grace. Kids are messy.
True but microplastic studies have shown that it can create hormonal issues
@@karod9317 yes we should do what we can. But honestly don’t beat ourselves up about it. There are so many things out there.
But your baby isnt eating a piece of sunglass case every day 5 times or more. Lol.
Interestingly, Dr. browns has a bottle warmer that is designed to be used with all of their products. On their website, it does not specifically say to avoid with plastic bottles. So I think they might be getting themselves in trouble with this one.
A video on different glass bottles wouldn't be amazing ❤
Especially with talk about some glass bottle manufactures have lead paint on the outside (from what I've heard).
Hi from France! Here sterilization is no longer recommended and most parents would use room temperature bottle water.
Personally I’ve used glass bottles for my twins until they turned 10 months old.
The concern with room temperature water for formula is this is a risk of bacteria which caused the loss of a baby here in the US. With formula we still want to use heated water.
@@genuinelactationI am so sorry to hear that. I wasn’t aware that happened. Hopefully US formula makers will start applying higher safety standards similar to their Europeans counterparts.
@@genuinelactationwow, I didn’t know that! So is it supposed to be boiling water?
me neither!!!@@angeliquemaez5569
A cleaning video would be awesome. I know how to wash bottles and everything says to boil etc...but even then my bottles still have residue....any tips would be great
I hate to break it to new moms, but there was a study that came out about late 2019/2020 that stated that all babies born after 2020 are born with plastic IN THEIR DNA. I wonder what that means for our babies and their health/future going forward. 😢
Almost all our food is packaged in plastic. It’s virtually unavoidable.😫😬
This has been extremely helpful for me. Thank you so much 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Are silicone bottles like the boon nursh bottles also a good option?
Thanks for this brilliant video, calmly explaining emotive information 🙏🏾Please could you kindly list in the description box all the glass bottle manufacturers that you mentioned? Many thanks. 🙏🏾
I use Dr. Brown glass bottle. I didn't even know about the lawsuit. Just didn't want plastic over all. And I don't use it much. I breastfeed exclusively, and barely use formula.
Good for you, genuinely. Unfortunately, there are many moms who aren’t able to breastfeed and have to use bottles.
@@kailasan8524I did both. I didn’t produce much milk, but did it for the bonding. ❤ I still had to give him formula.
@@kailasan8524 sucks ur genetics r bad
Flex girl, flex 💪
Bottles are also good for breastfeeding moms. I am currently breastfeeding my third baby. She gets boob and bottle, but it's always my milk. Moms deserve rest too.
Would heating in a glass bottle and then pouring into plastic bottle help?
I would like to know as well
I ideally would love all glass but as an exclusive pumper pumping directly into my baby bottles just wasn’t ideal. It was way too heavy and I couldn’t be hands free. So I preferred plastic.
Can you please share the name of the goadd bottle with thr pink silcone please?
What about silicone bottles like como tomo ?
I need this analysis. My baby uses como tomo and I sterilize in the avent electric sterilizer that also air drys. I’m worried.
Hi, you said you have a specific cleaning routine for pump/bottle parts can you please do a video on that?!? I searched your channel and can't find any video like that if you do have one please link it here thank you
How about the milk sotrage bags? It's also all plastic
Not heating them would prevent a lot of the micro plastic from shedding, I would think.
They also now make silicone milk storage bags!
If you're freezing them, yes, they probably leach plastic.
@@Beginnerreadsthebible isn't it the heating that causes the plastic to leech? Not freezing?
what about 100% silicone bottles? like Nanobebe Flexy Silicone Baby Bottle
I was going to purchase a bottle cleaner and sterilizer this time around to save time. Looks like I’ll just stick to the regular hand washing
Mamavation has a great article summarizing the microplastics/plastic baby bottles and lead/glass baby bottles. Eric Ritter and Detect Lead (has really great Instagram reels) is awesome. From what I've learned, overall Tommy Tippee, Mam (compatible with Lansinoh nipples and ring lids!), and Natursutten, and Nuk offer better options. I loved Pigeon but they're not consistent with their batches being low/no lead.
I tried switching to glass and my son immediately dropped it - within days of getting glass. What’s a momma to do?
Oh no! What brand? Was there a silicone sleeve on it?
Same thing with my baby. Already broken 2. Mess everywhere. It was so hard to clean up and time consuming because it shatters into fine pieces and you have to clean it up multiple times just to make sure you get everything.
As far as I can find online, silicone doesn't shed microplastic even when heated?? So using silicone baby bottles like Boon Nursh and Suavinex could be better than plastic ones
They still have plastic components that shed in contact with the milk. There are also other concerns with the silicone bottles causing feeding challenges which may introduce additional risks. Silicon bottles aren’t solid options just yet. If you are worried about the microplastics go with glass :)
Here is my knee-jerk, instinctual, I-didn’t-read-the-pleadings-this-isn’t-legal-advice- 2 cents on the suits. The suits were filed in federal district court in CA. The Plantiffs are all CA residents. The defendant Bottle making companies aren’t all CA companies. That’s probably why it’s in federal court - diversity jurisdiction. Federal courts can construe state law and hear state claims where they have diversity jurisdiction. CA state law has a strict laws about marketing and often provides for money damages in a high dollar amount even if the actual damages would be otherwise low or nominal. So, my instinct, without reading the pleadings, without proving legal advice, is that the dollar value of the actual damages to compensate the plantiffs for the harm microplastics caused them might be low, but, the plaintiffs may prevail on their claims if they can prove it’s more likely than not that the defendant companies’ marketing was misleading within the meaning of CA law. As always, great content Jessica and great tips on how to lower the shedding of microplastics while keeping babies fed and parents sane. :)
That checks with what I can see. This appears to be a strategic money grab but their strategy may pay off in California.
@@genuinelactation (1) Almost every lawsuit could be construed as a "money grab" because the remedy at law for almost every civil wrong is money - and nothing more. (2) I tried accessing the pleadings via PACER (the online docket for federal courts) but would need to pay a fee to access them as a non-party, so I decided not to read them over. The docket sheet (which is public) confirms that the case is in federal court due to diversity jurisdiction and not specifically because a federal question is involved. Wish I had more intelligence to share!
Is it just the sterilizing feature or the temperature itself? I use a sterilizer for its drying function only which gets a lot less hot than the sterilizing side. If it’s the temperature what is a safe temperature the plastic can be?
For plastic it's the cooler the better. Even the dry features on the sterilizers can be quite hot on many models. The challenge is the companies don't have to tell us.
OOF, I'M 6 MONTHS PREGNANT AND PUT GLASS BOTTLES ON MY REGISTRY. THANK GOD. THIS HAS TO BE ABOUT THE PLASTICS 😬 y'all, it is on your food, your fish, your Tupperware, your takeout containers, ugh, literally everywhere!
What about Playtex baby bottle liners?
Hmmm we use dr browns green bottle with green tube and then sterilize steamer. Is sterilizing still needed when our child is 7months now. I was concerned about micro but I was even more concerned about the particulates in the water we boiled and fed her. Now I boiled the water and then let it cool and then pour that water into a water purifier. And now we gotta worry about these micro plastics the companies know about but don’t care about (let’s be real) so the answer is UV sterilizer and glass bottles ? Fortunately our baby can drink room temp milk and cold
What does everyone think about boon nursh? Do you think a sterilizer is actually necessary if bottles are cleaned right away?
Do you then recommend glass bottles?
Thank you for this info! You mentioned using diluted bleach as a cleaning alternative. Can hydrogen peroxide be used in the same way?
I’ve read that bleach is rendered ineffective if put in hot water - so it sounds like you’d have to use cold water with the bleach if you want that 99.9% killed
Do we know if we have sterilized/heated the bottles in the past, will they always release microplastics into the food?
Does it only happen when you heat it or once it’s heated it’ll forever release them?
It sounds like all plastics shed but heating increases the rate of shedding.
@@genuinelactation thank you and thank you for all that you do!
Why use plastic when glass is available?
"There are no plastics that don't shed microplastics... the microplastics are in your placenta... also let's sue Dr. Brown"
Thank you for your informative video. I was aware of phthalates risk with plastic reading the book it all comes from the egg. From my first pregnancy I avoided heating plastic, and for the first months I used the Philips glass bottles. But then they leaked very often while my baby was drinking, I was so annoyed I shifted to the plastic ones. Thinking about that, the cause may be that after using hot dryer for the plastic part of the bottle , the seal was compromised. I am pregnant with my second I am thinking to use the Pigeon glass bottles, but not using heat for the plastic part. About sterilization, we use a Philips uv-c light sterilizer and I think would be enough for the newborn stage.
If I switch to glass I can keep using the uv-c sterilizer for the bottles. The issue will be letting air dry the pump parts, which will take much more time than heat drying.
The UV sterilizers typically have a drying feature that is no where near as hot as the other options
Unfortunately I checked myself with a thermometer, and inside the Philips uv-c sterilizer it reaches 150 °F, after 20 minutes of drying. Which looks quite high for plastic I think.
@@momonoki86 that's extremely high for a UV Sterilizer in general. I recommend the Wabi brand and the Tommee Tippee/BabyBuddha brand for those because I know the quality and that it's not getting hot like that. That stinks that the Philips is not venting properly to prevent having to using that kind of heat.
Thank you! I didn't know it wasn't supposed to get so hot. I will look into your suggestions!
Also, if you own any of them, could you please confirm how hot it will get inside? I can't find any official info about 🙏🏻 thank you!
Eye opening info & really liked your honest opinion
Can you type here the name of the glass bottle u were recommending! I didnt quite get that due to the accent may be
Mila’s Keeper is the truly plastic free bottle I showed :)
I use Philips avent and Dr. Browns bottles and sterilize the bottles after each use should I not sterilize them at all??? Or should I limit sterilization? What are the risk of not sterilizing them?
Bacteria. Diarrhea. My pediatrician told me that a lot of problems
Specially the nipple
my question as a soon to be new mom is if you need to have 8oz bottles? i see the Milas Keeper only has 5oz sizes and ive found it difficult to find 8oz glass bottles that i like
Does anyone know where to find the video that is mentioned here "how to wash your bottles safely"?
It hasn’t been posted yet- my kiddos caught a stomach bug so everything is delayed :(
Most people who breastfeed aren’t heating bottles, they are heating frozen, plastic breast milk storage bags.
There is a wide variety of what is normal- many never freeze any milk! Plastic bags are a concern as well.
You could use 8-10oz glass baby food jars to store breast milk. They take up more space in the fridge/freezer, but would be safer
We also warmed our breastmilk storage bags. Our pediatric feeding specialists had our babies on Mam nipples, but the Mam bottles couldn’t really be heated easily. ETA: My babies would "click", squeak, and leak milk out of their mouths with other nipples. We had issues. Most babies don't need Mam nipples.
@@angelatencer6848 that sounds ideal, but probably not compact enough for most, I think.
Or what about Natursutten bottles?
I have gotten glass bottles in the past year! What glass brand do you recommend?
"BPA free" means the plastic doesn't have BPA in it. It's only false advertising if the bottles actually did have BPA in them. Companies aren't responsible for people having no reading comprehension skills or jumping to conclusions that aren't supported by that simple statement of fact. If they were advertising the bottles as "microplastic free" or something, there would be reasonable standing to sue. If the complaint is really what you're describing here, the lawsuit is frivolous and should be dismissed.
Mason Jar brand has nipples & lids for mason jars although I have only found one nipple option & my baby hates it. It's also large & obnoxious in my baby's face.
For plastic free pumps use a glass baby bottle.
The flanges are still plastic and present the same concern.
I exclusively pump and feed baby using avent plastic bottles. I also use plastic pump parts. I hand wash and sanitize everything after every use. It sounds like I’m overdoing it and harming my baby?? This is my second time doing this and my daughter is fine but I’m a huge germaphobe and hence feel better sanitizing on top of handwashing. But are you saying stop sanitizing all together? We also warm breast milk because the fat rises and separates after storing in fridge. Baby is full term and no health issues.
This is such a sensitive situation but no I don’t think you are harming your child. I think this is an area where we don’t have great research and there is a potential risk of increased microplastic exposure with your current routine. With my private clients with these concerns we have been focusing on finding a balance that each parent can live with. The answer has not been the same for all families but we have found an option each time that helped the family feel confident in their choices.
We haven’t even found the true effect of microplastics in the body. The freaking out about this is crazy.
We know microplastics aren’t good though- so minimizing them is likely worth assessing.
I found ones from Zero Waste Store that are 100% plastic free. Just glass and natural rubber. Has anyone tried?
What about breast milk bags? I put the frozen milk in warm water to defrost. These companies should be investigated too and be given resources to go about.
Last I checked they recommend defrosting in the fridge.
I was doing that but it doesn’t defrost fast enough. Maybe I’ll do a few milk bags overnight.
Do pump parts need to be sterilized or is warm water and soap enough?
For healthy full term babies sterilization is not needed.
Great video, i was sure panicking! I did buy different bottles, how are ComoTomo Silicone bottles? are they some you'd recommend? thanks for the recommendations.
I don’t recommend them because of the nipple shape causing issues with babies oral function. I would do a glass bottle as a better option.
I use Phillips avent anti colic and I did steam sterilize every couple weeks but I’m going to stop! But we mix our formula in a Dr Browns mixing pitcher…. Any recommendations for pitchers that aren’t plastic? We aren’t shaking the formula in the bottles but the mixing pitcher I’m sure causes microplastic shedding
I'm actually on the hunt for that as formula pitchers make safe prep with the proper temp water realistic for parents but there is the microplastic concern.
Me and my husband mix our formula in the biggest size glass ball jar! You have to shake it/ vigorously stir to get the formula mixed but it’s glass and you can get stainless steel lids to screw on to them :)
I hand wash but sterilize in the Philips avent electric sterilizer that also drys. Baby powder formula with room temperature water. Como tomo baby bottles. Is this safe? How can we sterilize without the heat???
With the silicone comotomo bottle heat is okay- if your baby is doing alright with it stick to that. To feed the safest use properly heated water to prep the formula. In this case I think you are good on the microplastics
@@genuinelactationthank you so much!!
I swapped my dishes a few years back after finding out that most of them especially colored ones leech lead & cadmium. Can you maybe do a bit of research about the glass options for us too?? Before we know it, that’ll be the next lawsuit out there.
We are actually looking at this but this is going to take some time. Its a tough choice for parents these days!!
Is avent being sued for their glass bottles or their plastic?
Plastic.
Roflmao remember the old school bottles that were used in the 80’s and 90’s. Remember when moms put them in the microwave wave or in water boiling in pot on the stove. People need to get a hold of themselves
How can we get in on this lawsuit?
You would have to contact the law firm leading the lawsuit to see if there are options to join.
Should i buy standard or wide neck for lasinoh nipple?
Do you already have the lansinoh nipples?
@@genuinelactation yes. Thinking to buy them to replacey existing lasinoh plastic bottles
I always get wide neck to help with a more natural and wide latch
My husband and I was concerned about microplasties in formula and breastmilk long before the lawsuit. We only used glass bottles and thank God we did. Our baby's daycare asked us to bring plastic bottles but we fought them on this matter and only used glass bottles.
Glass bottles at a daycare is simply a hazard. If my kid were to cut their foot on your kids broken glass bottle you would be the one footing that medical bill for intentionally exposing children to an unnecessary risk. Your parenting choices shouldn’t infringe on other children’s safety. Keep your kid home with you if you are going to ‘demand’ a center to break safety guidelines
@ceceslivinglife the glass bottle had a thick cover that would prevent the glass from breaking and never once did it break. Also, daycares have carpet floors not hardwood floors. I don't know what daycare you send your kids to, but it sounds dangerous and lacks common sense. You do what suits your kids. I'm doing what is best for my kid.
@@primadonna82 😭😭😭 I raise/d my kids until they became school aged so fortunately I can’t relate. Couldn’t imagine a worse place for my kids to be , stuck in a room with dirty kids coming from parents like you. Crazy you folks complain over plastic bottles yet bathe your kids twice a month on average…. It’s pretty comical
@ceceslivinglife ??? Are you high? Who bathes their kids only twice a month? Maybe that's what you did. What a funny assumption. You do know once your kids enter elementary school they'll be exposed to the same germs and it'll hinder their learning, right? It's only a matter of time. Unless you're one of those hippies that believe in homeschooling and not vaccinating kids.
Get rid of plastics!!
We don't shake our children's milk, we stire it.
There is no harm in shaking milk and the stirring would cause the same issues with microplastics in this case.
@@genuinelactation I only said it because you said you can't think of ways to not shake the milk.
How should we sterilize pump parts for preemie babies? I have a baby in the NICU and bring him breast milk daily.
You want to work with your baby’s health care team to determine what is needed for your specific situation. NICU babies are all unique and your baby’s needs have to be considered when determining what products allow sterilization while minimizing risks. They can also guide you on which forms of sterilization to consider using- heat methods are only one way to achieve this need.
@@genuinelactation Okay, thank you for the reply.
I’m a NICU RN. Currently, we use steam sterilizing - a plastic sterilizer bag we put in the microwave 😳 That is for bottles as well as pump parts. But you can do what you prefer at home. Maybe soak the parts in diluted bleach water? Either way, the parts are not going to be sterile the moment they are touched and/or set on the towel to dry.
@@TubnQT for the NICU the microplastic issue is just no where near as concerning as bacterial contamination for sure!
Does this go for the glass bottles too?
Which part?
This is a great video. Personally, I would not do Mila's Keeper glass bottle because the ink/letters on the outside of the bottle are gold in color which is a worry for heavy metals. Even if it were not that color, it still is. Dr. Brown's, from last I remember, don't have anything on the bottle except glass?
OR...we could work harder as a society to rediscover and support the lost art of breastfeeding. 🙄
And before you say "yes but some women can't!" I'd like you to know that I was one of those women who "can't". Despite pumping every two hours religiously for 7 months I never made more than half an ounce from each breast each time. However, NO ONE, whether in the medical or natural healing fields had any answers for me.
You know why? Because anyone who wants to discuss this or find real solutions gets shut down with "but some women CAN'T"
We need to stop this.
Otherwise we'll forever be at the mercy of bottle and formula companies and you can expect many more lawsuits like this.
Very informative, but it was difficult to watch. Why not look at the camera? It’s a little awkward.
I am sure you mean well with this comment but it's actually quite problematic. Eye contact is something a lot of neurodiverse people struggle with and the pressure to improve this skill discourages people with neurodiversity from participating in more public engagement. Comments like this can be harmful and discourage the sharing of valuable information over something outside of the person's control- it feels very ableist and is likely not the intention of your comment. So please feel free to continue to engage here on my channel but kindly refrain from this type of feedback. :)
my question as a soon to be new mom is if you need to have 8oz bottles? i see the Milas Keeper only has 5oz sizes and ive found it difficult to find 8oz glass bottles that i like
The majority of mom's will never need an 8 ounce bottle.
I have had babies who eat more than 5oz in a sitting. And if you are sending bottles to daycare, sending multiple bottles for 1 feeding probably isn’t good for the daycare. Plus you will be washing more bottles. Just my experience with fostering kids. Thank you.
@@alisha764 there are always things that are the exception- but the majority won't need that. I do have daycare situations where two bottles a feeding are used though, daycares can accomodate what a baby needs if we have to use a certain feeding method thankfully!