While we wait for word on the 2024 model year, the rumor mill is saying: the only thing that will change is the price tag. Looks like a more complete refresh will be around model year 2025.
Correct, new RAV4 is likely for MY 2025. I surmise the new Camry will get launched first an year before, similar to what happened in 2018 (Camry) vs 2019 (RAV4).
I'm worried how price will depreciate if I buy a RAV4 right before a possible 2024 refresh. What say you guys? Will I lose more than a year's average depreciation?
Rented a Rav4 LE for a few days and drove it over multiple mountain passes from Colorado to Wyoming and back. No hybrid and still achieved almost 36 MPG over nearly 600 miles, hand calculated. The computer was showing over 37 MPG. It had plenty of power and the 8 speed was fantastic. It didn't hunt for gears and once I learned the throttle mapping it was easy to predict when it would upshift or downshift. I would go for the regular non hybrid model for myself because I like to go down trails and explore. Nothing extreme, but enough to need a little more capable AWD system than the hybrid can provide. The fuel economy will not be as good, but getting 30 MPG average would not be difficult. For a crossover with decent power, that's pretty good. Much better than crossovers even just 10 years ago.
Great review as always. I own a 2023 Rav 4 Hybrid XSE and I got it at MSRP. The "load bars" (on top) can be taken off and it's easy to do. I'm getting around 42 mpg driving 70/30 % highway/city driving. I usually go around 75-78 mph on the freeway. The accelaration is great for what I need it for. Getting onto the freeway or passing someone is excellent. I love my Rav 4 hybrid, you cannot go wrong with it.
Just bought my 2023 RAV 4 Hybrid XSE a little over a week ago; only getting around 36-37mpg with roughly your mix of HW/city. Any suggestions for improvement? I typically (so far) run it primarily in "normal" mode; only use "sport" sparingly for say passing. One caveat I switched the Michelin tires it came with to Michelin Cross Climate 2; (better in the snow--as in Ohio winters). I have however read that they may reduce mpg by maybe 3-4mpg. Of course I have only bought gas so far once, filling tank up from about just below the half way mark with Shell regular. Maybe the dealer only filled it up with cheap quicky-mart type gas?
Alex is the best at explaining Toyota & other manufacturer hybrids. That said, there is one statement I take issue with, "when the battery runs out" does not happen with the small batteries in Toyota Hybrids. Toyota has programmed the small hybrid traction battery to maintain between 20-80% under nearly all conditions. Our Camry Hybrids, for example, are programmed to automatically have the hybrid battery power the electric motor which works in tandem with the ICE engine under conditions like climbing a steep hill. The ICE engine in Toyota hybrids recharges the hybrid battery at the same time (as powering the wheels). So, I submit there is no case where, under load, a Toyota Hybrid (non plug-in) has its small hybrid battery fully depleted; just does not happen, which also means you maintain the max Total HP from both the electric & ICE engine.
I re-watched Alex's Toyoya RAV4 Hybrid towing a 2000lb trailer up a grade last night. Alex regularly remarked (to paraphrase), "the (hybrid) battery is still showing 40% charge" in the context of him traveling uphill for some time with the 2000lb trailer. "There is more available power IF I put my foot into the pedal as the hybrid traction battery is always there", etc. Now, I did review some older comments on the internet that were in Gen 2 Prius Forums and spoke of the hybrid battery being depleted under the case of a high hill climb. My familiarity is with 2017 & 2018 Toyota Camry Hybrids and both those models have the NiMH battery with me personally logging about 130,000km in the 2017. My prior commute about 2 years ago was 1.75 hours one-way to work at least once/week and I had lots of experience where the Camry Hybrid was under load traveling steep grades. Like the others have commented I never experienced a time when the hybrid traction battery was low; usually it would stay around the 40% range. I can only surmise that such is the way Toyota designed their newer generation hybrid vehicles; the hybrid battery will be continually recharged by an amount equal to or exceeding load on the hybrid battery because they just don't fall to zero!
I’ve had a RAV4 hybrid XLE for a couple of years now and am very happy with it, especially with the fuel economy given the insane cost of gas on Vancouver Island.
I have both Prime XSE and Limited Hybrid. The hybrid gets better mpg than the Prime on highway mainly due to Prime having 19s vs 18s wheels and Prime is heavier. But the Prime outshines the Hybrid in city/around town. My best EV range in stop and go around town is 55 miles (max speed 55). My best EV range on highway is 42 miles (max speed 70 with average around 65). Both with AC set to 70 degrees. Without AC, distance would be further.
I wanted EV badly, but after long consideration, I chose RAV4 Hybrid. The price still makes me shiver, and waiting time is about 2 months Hopefully, it will be a reliable vehicle, will see.
Curious to learn more details of your decision process from you as I am in a similar situation, leaning maybe more towards an EV..model Y (likely used one..)
any prime XSE with PP OTD Total beyond $57-8k USD is a ripoff. Hybrid XSE with advanced tech for $47k OTD is 10k difference which buys you 6-7 years gas in the hybrid
I think we as a country are getting closer to full EV capability but the infastructure isnt quite all there yet. I believe going hybrid until every car brand gets a solid EV out and we get the infastructure to properly charge anywhere will be the key point
We compared the RAV4 to the Model Y, surprisingly they are close in dimensions. Even with rebates, the Model Y is $11,000 more expensive and the fuel savings is only about $1,000 (oil changes included) a year, based on our typical mileage. Given the unlimited range, low depreciation and Toyota reliability we purchased a RAV4 hybrid.
RAV4 Prime 2022 owner here (European version): You ought to mention that the rear motor on the Prime is always active at lower speeds (up to about 15MPH) so it works better than on the regular hybrid even it is the same rear motor setup.
Bought my all options in fully loaded '21 R4P XSE back when you did your original review of that car and still love the car today. Paid only MSRP for it and still was able to get state and fed incentives. 2 years later, still love the car with very little gripes. It's no sports car but love the "no compromises" compared to other RAV4's. Good to know it still has a spare, sacrificed very little trunk space compared to the other variations, but gained power pass seat, 6.6 charger, rear heat seats, front cooling, 1500watt rear plug which was great for camping, and a little pure EV range. Overtime, have been consistent 53miles of EV in the Summer and 43 in the winter in the Northeast. I do like the newer info center and bigger center screen but more of a want than a need. Thanks AoA/Autobuyers or whatever you want to call you guys now for the help!
I have a 2024 RAV4 HYBRID LIMITED on order, and it is being built as we speak! Price befoefor tax & License was $42,254 I did order a couple of items. I can't hardly wait to get it!!
I love mine, and mine is 15 years old from new. Saved me many winters. The new one already a guy has driven 490,000miles. I wish i could buy the new generation
Awesome review as always. We looked at the RAV4 Hybrid but chose the Venza instead. Same hybrid system as the RAV4 Hybrid but nicer inside, quieter and more comfortable ride. Love how comfortable the front seats are (with the Softex). While the interior of the Venza is technically smaller, I find it airier and the front seats to be more spacious - the A pillar felt too close in the RAV4. Do wish we could have got the tan colour seats with the Blueprint blue exterior (like the RAV4). The best part is we are averaging 5.5 - 5.8 L/100km (41-43 mpg) after 2 years of driving.
The Venza suffers in the cargo area more than in passenger accommodation. It is certainly a very worthy alternative. It remains to be seen if the Venza's Lithium batteries have the same lifespan as the Nickel batteries in the humble RAV4.
@@rightlanehog3151 lithium batteries are no good at all for the Canadian cold weather. I had a 2018 Honda Insight with the lithium batteries & my dash lit up like a Christmas tree when the temp fell to -25C & stayed that way for at least an hour of driving. My Rav4 XSE hybrid with the nickel metal hydride batteries doesn't have that problem at all.
A quick counter data point for CR-V hybrid mileage. I own a '23 Sport Hybrid and over 4k miles the lifetime average is 41mpg. City commuting can easily get up to 45mpg. Highway driving does take a hit, but on a road trip from Los Angeles to Las Vegas I had 37mpg on the drive out and 38.5mpg on the return (driving with cruise set at 73mph and climate at 70).
I currently have a 2018 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Limited; leased it nearly five years ago, purchased it directly from Toyota Finance when the lease was expiring in 2021. It has been the best all-around vehicle that I've ever had. There were three unscheduled visits to the dealership to replace the driver's side power lock actuator and the blower motor for the climate control twice. The power lock actuator failed after the warranty was up, as did the replacement blower motor for the one that was replaced the first time. Aside from these annoyances, the vehicle has run flawlessly and has been nearly as fuel efficient as advertised.
@verynick Honestly, no. It was the first time that I had ever purchased a vehicle at the end of the lease period. This was due to the low mileage and the lack of availability of an updated replacement model. This was during the pandemic.
Excellent review as always. I have been watching your reviews for year, ever since I had young kids and needed a review showing rear seats and car seats. Thank you.
It's not a great vehicle. Not even a middling or passable vehicle. Worse than average. Had one as a rental for a week and DESPISED it. Would never recommend buying one.
We have five in our family. We just sold our garbage Grand Caravan and got a Rogue! Half the gas usage and amazing ride! Mini vans are a poor choice for most.
If I got a family I would no doubt go for a Toyota Hybrid Sienna/Highlander minus a couple of mpg when compare to the rav4 hybrid but I'm all for it plus it's AWD too
I have a Sportage hybrid SXP and love it. I get around 38 MPG. The size and features, the tech rich interior, and price are impressive. It is not perfect, but we love it.
Thanks, Alex for your great and thorough reviews! The RAV4 Hybrid is still an amazing vehicle with the best reliability and resale value in its class. It does have its shortcomings (rear legroom and noise), but ultimately, it all comes down to your needs and priorities for your vehicle choice!
It was the leg room and the road noise that killed it for me. Ended up with an Outback, which is more comfortable in my opinion, and while it has less road noise, it has some noticeable wind noise that I don't love... But over all, happy with the Outback. Hopefully it'll be as reliable as I was used to with Toyotas. It's fun to try something different (I've been a huge Toyota-Only fan for a long time). We'll see what Toyota and Subaru (and others) are offering hopefully a decade or so from now.
I traded my 2011 Kia Sorento for my new RAV4 Hybrid. The Sorento is better planted in corners and more comfortable on long drives, but I'm getting twice the MPG with a much better resale value.
That is, my friend a very comprehensive review, so well done. Im in the Uk and i can't believe how much cheaper the car is in the USA compared to the uk - we are paying top dollar even second hand!
My 2013 RAV4 is still running flawlessly and I would drive it until the wheels fell off but I'd like better mileage and I'm also moving somewhere I expect to need some off-road capability. Obviously considering the new Land Cruiser but am weighing the peace of mind of a car that may be overkill for my needs against the higher pricetag and mileage that's barely better than what I get now (though way better than I could hope for in another off- roading car).
Your rav4 is a lot better than the new one. More spacious, more trunk space, nicer interior and a smoother engine and transmission. Not to mention the 4 cylinder in yours is oddly refined and sounds great at high rpm’s. It doesn’t buzz like a corolla engine
What seat settings does the passenger front seat offer. My partner is short and would like to be able to raise the seat. Second, will the Prime charge on the, on/off cycling, hotel style vehicle plug commonly found in Canada. Thanks, keep up the good work Alex.
Test drove one, ended up giving the key back to the Toyota salesman and left. The interior was too cramped. It rode pretty poorly and the engine sounded really cheap. I test drove all the other competitors and ultimately narrowed my choices down to the Kia Sportage and the Subaru Forester. Ended up with a brand new 2023 Kia Sportage. Not the hybrid, as they didn't have any available at the time. No regrets!
Alex it would be great for more transparency on the cabin noise testing. It seems like every car you test is always somewhere from 68-74 decibels and after driving some of these cars in real life there can be huge differences between them. Maybe there’s a new way you can test them? Perhaps disclose the road type, speed, and wind on the day tested. My decibel meter has shown greater range and usually lower numbers than yours in the same models
I think the device he uses may not be accurate Do you think an Apple Watch is an accurate way to measure sound? Because in my v6 Camry, I’ve gotten 63-64db cabin noise at 70mph using my watch. That’s notably quieter than Alex’s score of the same car where he got 71dB
The difference between 68 and 74dB is huge. I believe for every 10dB sound is perceived to have doubled. I don’t know the device he uses or the consistency, but certainly it would make sense if all vehicles were within such a range given the numerous variables and conditions at play.
Straight forward reviews. Generally we're all need this & that interior to be improved from Toyota. But considering this way, why you see more Toyota on the road than others? Due to the reliability, resale value. Lastly, are we always using those gagets? Not so. Basically if you think it's expensive don't buy it. That's all.
I think a lot of manufacturers are sticking to incandescent bulbs for turn signals because they don't require a load resistor or a more complex flasher module as either of those add to the bottom line, and would require them to carry new stock instead of the same old blinker module they've been using since the switch to 12 volt systems.
Good point. Also some practical advantages of LED's are faster response time and much longer life, neither of which are critical for turn signals. LED turn signals are also "crisper", and some people might like the natural fade-in and fade-out effect of incandescent bulbs (some LED turn signals even mimic that via dimming).
Most of it has to do with the T1/T2 suppliers who are often laggards when it comes to upgrading tech when there's no perceived advantage. Most buyers don't calculate bulb turnover costs in cost of ownership. Only the acronym LED might hit some keyword for some buyers. The rapid blink rate for LEDs really should be a selling point for emergency situations since it's hard to miss a LED strobbing at 180Hz.
I am on the fence about buying a RAV4. I love what's under the hood, but the exterior design is so bulky and leaves much to be desired. I love the sleek look for the RDX and NX, but can't bring myself to pay for 91. In 2025, can we expect a new hybrid from the competition that can come close to combining style with RAV4-like practicality?
Can you do a review of the new Lexus RX 350h? I remember seeing some videos of the pre-production version, but it would be interesting to know more details about the vehicle.
The hybrid powertrain in the RAV4 and Toyota reliability are an advantage. But, aside from mileage, does it have a higher torque than the Subaru Forester 2.5 boxer 4 with a CVT? Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you.
The Rav4 hybrid or prime looks promising ! We are looking for a new hybrid suv in this class. MPG is very important as we regularly do a 900 mile weekend trip which is mostly highway so being quiet and comfort are just as important if not more so to us. Rav4 hybrid & prime as well as the Sportage hybrid/PHEV are on the short list. But with the highway ride, quiet/comfort important, how do they compare ? What seems like a good model(s) to consider in your opinion ? Thanks, love the channel ! P.S. our neighbor has an newer RDX which is quite comfortable and quiet but barely gets 26 mpg so no way near the target 38-40 we were hoping to find but gives us a reference point in highway comfort.
Check out Tucson as well. Bit more refined and quiet than rav4, but mpg may not be quite as good. Seats in rav4 are a bit firmer, which is more comfortable for me, but some may prefer the softer tucson seats. The sportage seats are more on the firm side, but sound system is awful if that’s meaningful to you. If I found Tucson seats more comfortable (and they are, but too soft for me), Tucson would be my pick for overall refinement and int/ext design.
I have been thinking about this RAV4 Limited hybrid vs The None hybrid limited Which one should I consider buying for my self. A friend said the RAV4 hybrid is quicker than the none hybrid limited please I will appreciate if you can help me choose please reply
Hi Holly, in this review Alex says at different pints that the hybrid model is better than the non-hybrid, except for the fact that the job-hybrid has a mechanical and better all wheel drive while the hybrid’s is non-mechanical. It’s powered by the electric engine to the rear wheels. It works differently. Also, the wheels are different between the two models. In every other way, the hybrid is better.
On my 2021 Venza road surface is very influential. On a smooth road, very quiet. On a rough surface (chip sealed) unpleasantly noisy. I have supplied Ecopia tires. Maybe Pirelli tires would fix that?
Good video! If reliability and long term cost is one of the most important factor, how does the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV compare to this? Availability seems also better. Thanks!
Alex, I hesitate to use such strong language but gosh darn it, Toyota would sell a 'heck' of a lot more RAV4 Hybrids if they could build them fast enough to keep up with demand. 🤨 In terms of a refresh, leg room in the back seat and competitive headroom are the most pressing priorities for the next RAV4. Let us hope the new RAV4 has a sliding second row like RAV4s of old.🤞🤞 With RAV4 Hybrid prices only heading upwards, it is time to put the 245 hp 2.5 drivetrain in all of them😁😁
The CRV also has a mechanical AWD setup that send up to 50% of torque to the rear. Our 2023 CRV was superb in the central Wisconsin snow. I equipped ours with Michelin Cross Climate tires directly from the dealer since after 26 years I'm sick and tired of swapping summer and winter sets. Best decision I have ever made. It was unstoppable in all winter conditions, dare I say even better (probably because the overall less power) than any other AWD vehicle I have ever owned up here with Blizzaks, X ices or any dedicated winter tire. I have not, driven the new hybrid RAV 4, but I have driven the regular gas version, quite honestly, the CRV's overall package is a categorically better vehicle in every way.
During the LC reveal there was a small boxy car in the background. That could be the Light Cruiser or Compact Cruiser or w.e. Toyota is going to call it.
Could you not just swap out incandescent bubs for LEDs in the rear fixtures, aftermarket? Or is there an electrical limitation that would prevent that?
u can, but u have to install a resistor to prevent hyperflashing, just be careful where u mount the resistors they can get very hot, should be mounted to metal. It's much easier in the front of the car where metal is plentiful but for the tail lights there is much less mounting spots. I'm sure u can even find some places that sell wiring harness for ease of installation and even anti-hyperflashing LED bulbs with built in resistors, but I don't know how good those are.
I just got the Hyundai Tucson Hybrid, and couldn't be more impressed It is more powerful than the Rav4, while being twice as smooth. Getting 34-45 MPG, but I drive it harder than most, and the 6-speed's smoothness more than makes up for it. I wouldn't get a CVT because of those NVH issues. Not one problem in 6000 miles. Looking 2024 Santa Fe Hybrid next
@@bitbat9 agreed, but a 6-speed doesn't have a CVT's uber-annoying drone. I'd be all over the Hyundai or Kia instead for the ability to select gears, particularly in hilly or slippery conditions...
I have R4P, but really should just have bought a normal hybrid just easier to maintain. The heat pump couldn't take the Vegas heat when was 110. I think normal hybrid's a/c is better. It is peppy but I drive as EV most of time only use gas on the highway. I wish car told me how many hours the ICE was on so oil changes aren't based on miles.
Я езжу на RAV4PLUGIN 2021 года. Эта машина в режиме "дом-работа" экономичней моего Prius Prime. Отличный баланс мощности и экономичности. Это то, что я долго хотел. Ну, а о надежности гибридов от Тойоты говорить не обязательно - очень надежный автомобиль.
rav 4 hybrid awd as a tow vehicle for a boat. anyone has experience with it. i am concerned with the rear electric motor, high voltage cable vs the water when launching the boat.
That is a great question. As a long time small boat user, I am surprised a boat/trailer combination that can be towed with the RAV4 Hybrid's 1,750 tow rating requires the tow vehicle's rear axle to be submerged. Whenever I can I avoid sinking the trailer's axle under water.
@@robertduklus6555 Both. My boat is light enough that the whole trailer does not need to be submerged. I am trying to save the wheel bearings on the trailer and car. The winch can handle the task of pulling the boat out of the water.
40MPG is impressive for the size of this car, RAV4 is not the best in term of design and comfort but liability does, for me liability and fuel-efficient is first priority when consider buying a new car, that's why it is one of the best selling suv out there.
Every car is a liability unless it is a collectors item. My 1996 Avalon was a liability when it came to the expense of replacing the leaking steering rack and GM made radiator. My Prius V was a huge liability when the inverter went at 86K miles, car wouldn't start.
Interesting. My 2023 Sienna Platinum gets over 40MPG with mostly highway driving :). My 2016 CRV gets 27MPG on a good day. My wife wants another CRV, but hybrid. I want her to get the Highlander because it seems bigger. Need to test drive. Yes, I paid $4K over invoice for the Sienna, but man, it really does get over 40MPG and has the pickup in sport mode when needed. I keep it in ECO mode most of the time.
Gas isn’t going anywhere soon. Hybrids make sense for most people. You just can’t deny the cost benefits of 40mpg. Of course, once everyone owns hybrids gas prices will just level out and the economic benefits will evaporate.
I've considered buying a used one just a month ago. Ended up buying used Forester SJ instead. Do not regret my choice. RAV4 is nice, has more cargo room than Forester, but not as comfortable. It feels more claustrophobic. My previous cars were minivans (European kind of minivans: Opel Zafira, VW Touran, which are much smaller than minivans sold in US), so I'm used to having a lot of space, comfortable suspension and big windows, RAV4 doesn't have that.
While I'd buy other gasoline models over the gasser RAV4, hard to beat the overall package of what the Hybrid offers, even going on model year 6 as we head into 2024.
I just rented one for a week while in Arizona, and I naturallly compared it to my wife's '23 Sport Touring CRV Hybrid. They were close in most highway and in-town driving, but some user interface differences that were really just minor. Seemed like a few more storage spots and I liked the instrument cluster options more than the one in CRV, but the entertainment system didn't seem to care for my Android Galaxy S21 Ultra. Kept disconnecting. I thought the ride was louder and harsher in the Toyota, and the ride in driver's seat (didn't sit in the passenger seat) was not as comfortable as the CRV. Seemed less sure-footed and much less comfortable on rough gravel roads and light offroading in the desert. The RAV4 did not have all the safety additions that came standard on the CRV, and overall I didn't care for the driving dynamics and "feel" of the engine when I went up steeper grades in my low mileage rental. Glad we chose the CRV for our needs.
@@naveenthemachine I felt the CRV ride/suspension was softer over rough gravel roads and light offroading. I also felt the throttle response was smoother going up hills. The Toyata seemed to like to downshift earlier and stay in the lower gear longer. Made the enginve rev higher. I'm sure it was operating for max efficiency, but it felt uncomfortably high for me. Purely subjective, and I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if I didn't have familaiarity with the CRV to compare it to. It still annoyed me though.
I guess I really don't understand a buying decision based on a screen... maybe cuz my concerns are reliability, safety and not items that have nothing to do with transportation...
Rav4 hybrid has more than inch ground clearance over over CRV hybrid and offers spare wheel and tire makes it a no brainer. CRV offers much better rear legroom though.
@@henryhonda8408 got love comments from people that have never driven the far superior competition. Only sheeps buy a rav4. Most people who look at Toyotas don’t know other cars exist
@@naveenthemachine obviously you don't know me. 😂😂😂 I've owned mostly Hondas all my life & they were great! Loved them all except maybe my 1999 Civic! My Rav4 XSE hybrid is my first Toyota and its blown me away........ best vehicle I've ever owned by far!
Wouldn’t you argue that all the different RAV4 models are no different than all the different F models for Ford? A RAV4 Prime is a completely different vehicle in almost every way but the shell from a base RAV4, but still counts as a RAV4 sold…So, a RAV4 Prime could be like an F350 as opposed to the RAV4 Hybrid being something like a Ford 250, and the regular engine the F150? No?
Could you go over the reliability differences and why with this RAV4 system versus the Korean ones? It'd be good information for long term owners. Personally, I've also driven both a RAV4 and a Tucson extensively, and the RAV4 infotainment system is still not equal to the Korean setup. I will say the gauge cluster is more customizable with Toyota, but it looks like 3 separate screens together and with older styles. Not attractive to me.
You know exactly what you're getting when you buy a Toyota - long term reliability. The Koreans have caught up a fair bit in recent years but you can't really argue against 20+ years of proven results when it comes to hybrid technology.
@@Traysandor oh is that right? How do you explain the Camrys transmission problems that are documented by shops and mechanics nationwide that happened for about 4 years? Caused a lot of headaches for people. Toyota is a mechanical thing that still breaks.
Just building charging stations is not enough, power transmission lines need to be upgraded too, along with other equipment like sub stations and Transformers. Peak loads will be very once everyone starts charging...
Toyota Hybrids aren’t fair at this point. RAV4 Hybrid gets 40mpg. Camry gets 46mpg. Corolla gets 50mpg. Prius gets over 50mpg. Highlander gets 35mpg. Sienna gets 35mpg. Grand Highlander gets over 30mpg is base form and near 30mpg in the overpowered Hybrid Max configuration (360hp/400ft-lbs). Tacoma is said to get 27mpg. It’s honestly not fair at this point.
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While we wait for word on the 2024 model year, the rumor mill is saying: the only thing that will change is the price tag. Looks like a more complete refresh will be around model year 2025.
Alex, Were you in Trail Mode for your dirt road driving?
Correct, new RAV4 is likely for MY 2025. I surmise the new Camry will get launched first an year before, similar to what happened in 2018 (Camry) vs 2019 (RAV4).
@@vik_red 24 Camry is already here.
I'm worried how price will depreciate if I buy a RAV4 right before a possible 2024 refresh. What say you guys? Will I lose more than a year's average depreciation?
@@seventyfive7597 No chance.
Rented a Rav4 LE for a few days and drove it over multiple mountain passes from Colorado to Wyoming and back. No hybrid and still achieved almost 36 MPG over nearly 600 miles, hand calculated. The computer was showing over 37 MPG. It had plenty of power and the 8 speed was fantastic. It didn't hunt for gears and once I learned the throttle mapping it was easy to predict when it would upshift or downshift. I would go for the regular non hybrid model for myself because I like to go down trails and explore. Nothing extreme, but enough to need a little more capable AWD system than the hybrid can provide. The fuel economy will not be as good, but getting 30 MPG average would not be difficult. For a crossover with decent power, that's pretty good. Much better than crossovers even just 10 years ago.
Great review as always. I own a 2023 Rav 4 Hybrid XSE and I got it at MSRP. The "load bars" (on top) can be taken off and it's easy to do. I'm getting around 42 mpg driving 70/30 % highway/city driving. I usually go around 75-78 mph on the freeway. The accelaration is great for what I need it for. Getting onto the freeway or passing someone is excellent. I love my Rav 4 hybrid, you cannot go wrong with it.
Just bought my 2023 RAV 4 Hybrid XSE a little over a week ago; only getting around 36-37mpg with roughly your mix of HW/city. Any suggestions for improvement? I typically (so far) run it primarily in "normal" mode; only use "sport" sparingly for say passing. One caveat I switched the Michelin tires it came with to Michelin Cross Climate 2; (better in the snow--as in Ohio winters). I have however read that they may reduce mpg by maybe 3-4mpg. Of course I have only bought gas so far once, filling tank up from about just below the half way mark with Shell regular. Maybe the dealer only filled it up with cheap quicky-mart type gas?
@@ZeyphodZeyphodbesides the tires, I don’t think you’re past your break-in period either. Congrats and good luck.
Alex is the best at explaining Toyota & other manufacturer hybrids. That said, there is one statement I take issue with, "when the battery runs out" does not happen with the small batteries in Toyota Hybrids. Toyota has programmed the small hybrid traction battery to maintain between 20-80% under nearly all conditions. Our Camry Hybrids, for example, are programmed to automatically have the hybrid battery power the electric motor which works in tandem with the ICE engine under conditions like climbing a steep hill. The ICE engine in Toyota hybrids recharges the hybrid battery at the same time (as powering the wheels). So, I submit there is no case where, under load, a Toyota Hybrid (non plug-in) has its small hybrid battery fully depleted; just does not happen, which also means you maintain the max Total HP from both the electric & ICE engine.
I concur.
My 2021 Venza never runs the battery down to less than about 20 percent. The gas engine insists on charging the battery.
I re-watched Alex's Toyoya RAV4 Hybrid towing a 2000lb trailer up a grade last night.
Alex regularly remarked (to paraphrase), "the (hybrid) battery is still showing 40% charge" in the context of him traveling uphill for some time with the 2000lb trailer. "There is more available power IF I put my foot into the pedal as the hybrid traction battery is always there", etc.
Now, I did review some older comments on the internet that were in Gen 2 Prius Forums and spoke of the hybrid battery being depleted under the case of a high hill climb.
My familiarity is with 2017 & 2018 Toyota Camry Hybrids and both those models have the NiMH battery with me personally logging about 130,000km in the 2017. My prior commute about 2 years ago was 1.75 hours one-way to work at least once/week and I had lots of experience where the Camry Hybrid was under load traveling steep grades. Like the others have commented I never experienced a time when the hybrid traction battery was low; usually it would stay around the 40% range. I can only surmise that such is the way Toyota designed their newer generation hybrid vehicles; the hybrid battery will be continually recharged by an amount equal to or exceeding load on the hybrid battery because they just don't fall to zero!
The dealer experience with the markups on the Prime model was a deal killer for me. No idea who is down for that.
I expect those with tax write offs piled on their tax write offs could justify the prices.
Here in Dallas Texas, even the 2023 Corolla LE gasoline sedans have dealer markups, it's ridiculous!
We can always combat that we can wait. They have to move vehicles. Look at the vehicles on dealers lot for longer than 60 days.
Until people stop paying the markup, the markup will stick around
@@oncontinualevolution9966 Toyota has the lowest inventory levels in the industry. Meanwhile Stellantis/Chrysler/Jeep has a massive oversupply.
I’ve had a RAV4 hybrid XLE for a couple of years now and am very happy with it, especially with the fuel economy given the insane cost of gas on Vancouver Island.
Do you have air conditioning out there? Hot weather is on the way.
@@rightlanehog3151 sure do. The climate is generally mild year round on the island, but A/C definitely helps on the occasional hot spell.
Canadians seem to get screwed on everything
what the heck do you need a fuel miser on Vancouver Island? You can't drive too much?
Same here. I have a 21 XLE hybrid in NYC and average a solid 39mpg.
We have a 2020 RAV4 Hybrid XLE. Reasonably priced, practical, economical, & reliable. No regrets...
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I have both Prime XSE and Limited Hybrid. The hybrid gets better mpg than the Prime on highway mainly due to Prime having 19s vs 18s wheels and Prime is heavier. But the Prime outshines the Hybrid in city/around town. My best EV range in stop and go around town is 55 miles (max speed 55). My best EV range on highway is 42 miles (max speed 70 with average around 65). Both with AC set to 70 degrees. Without AC, distance would be further.
Awesome info. As someone who does 90% hwy driving this helps immensely
I wanted EV badly, but after long consideration, I chose RAV4 Hybrid. The price still makes me shiver, and waiting time is about 2 months Hopefully, it will be a reliable vehicle, will see.
We came to the same conclusion. Cancelled our ID4 and Ioniq 5 pre-orders, and decided to play it safe with the RAV4 Hybrid.
Curious to learn more details of your decision process from you as I am in a similar situation, leaning maybe more towards an EV..model Y (likely used one..)
any prime XSE with PP OTD Total beyond $57-8k USD is a ripoff. Hybrid XSE with advanced tech for $47k OTD is 10k difference which buys you 6-7 years gas in the hybrid
I think we as a country are getting closer to full EV capability but the infastructure isnt quite all there yet. I believe going hybrid until every car brand gets a solid EV out and we get the infastructure to properly charge anywhere will be the key point
We compared the RAV4 to the Model Y, surprisingly they are close in dimensions. Even with rebates, the Model Y is $11,000 more expensive and the fuel savings is only about $1,000 (oil changes included) a year, based on our typical mileage. Given the unlimited range, low depreciation and Toyota reliability we purchased a RAV4 hybrid.
RAV4 Prime 2022 owner here (European version): You ought to mention that the rear motor on the Prime is always active at lower speeds (up to about 15MPH) so it works better than on the regular hybrid even it is the same rear motor setup.
Bought my all options in fully loaded '21 R4P XSE back when you did your original review of that car and still love the car today. Paid only MSRP for it and still was able to get state and fed incentives. 2 years later, still love the car with very little gripes. It's no sports car but love the "no compromises" compared to other RAV4's. Good to know it still has a spare, sacrificed very little trunk space compared to the other variations, but gained power pass seat, 6.6 charger, rear heat seats, front cooling, 1500watt rear plug which was great for camping, and a little pure EV range. Overtime, have been consistent 53miles of EV in the Summer and 43 in the winter in the Northeast. I do like the newer info center and bigger center screen but more of a want than a need. Thanks AoA/Autobuyers or whatever you want to call you guys now for the help!
I have a 2024 RAV4 HYBRID LIMITED on order, and it is being built as we speak! Price befoefor tax & License was $42,254 I did order a couple of items. I can't hardly wait to get it!!
I love mine, and mine is 15 years old from new. Saved me many winters. The new one already a guy has driven 490,000miles. I wish i could buy the new generation
I own a 2022 rav4 XSE and a 2022 rav4 XLE AWD gas.
Currently shopping for another for my younger daughter.
Great machines.
Went with the 2024 hybrid RAV4 after 10months waiting! Totally worth it!!!
Awesome review as always. We looked at the RAV4 Hybrid but chose the Venza instead. Same hybrid system as the RAV4 Hybrid but nicer inside, quieter and more comfortable ride. Love how comfortable the front seats are (with the Softex). While the interior of the Venza is technically smaller, I find it airier and the front seats to be more spacious - the A pillar felt too close in the RAV4. Do wish we could have got the tan colour seats with the Blueprint blue exterior (like the RAV4). The best part is we are averaging 5.5 - 5.8 L/100km (41-43 mpg) after 2 years of driving.
The Venza suffers in the cargo area more than in passenger accommodation. It is certainly a very worthy alternative. It remains to be seen if the Venza's Lithium batteries have the same lifespan as the Nickel batteries in the humble RAV4.
@@rightlanehog3151 lithium batteries are no good at all for the Canadian cold weather. I had a 2018 Honda Insight with the lithium batteries & my dash lit up like a Christmas tree when the temp fell to -25C & stayed that way for at least an hour of driving. My Rav4 XSE hybrid with the nickel metal hydride batteries doesn't have that problem at all.
@@henryhonda8408 Wife has a venza and I got the Rav both hybrids no issues in the winter
@@MoneyMaking861 I'm not sure where you are but I'm way up here in northern Ontario where we have very long brutal winters.
But the poor folks up in Timmins & Kapuskasing have even longer winters so maybe I shouldn't complain lol
A quick counter data point for CR-V hybrid mileage. I own a '23 Sport Hybrid and over 4k miles the lifetime average is 41mpg. City commuting can easily get up to 45mpg. Highway driving does take a hit, but on a road trip from Los Angeles to Las Vegas I had 37mpg on the drive out and 38.5mpg on the return (driving with cruise set at 73mph and climate at 70).
I currently have a 2018 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Limited; leased it nearly five years ago, purchased it directly from Toyota Finance when the lease was expiring in 2021. It has been the best all-around vehicle that I've ever had. There were three unscheduled visits to the dealership to replace the driver's side power lock actuator and the blower motor for the climate control twice. The power lock actuator failed after the warranty was up, as did the replacement blower motor for the one that was replaced the first time. Aside from these annoyances, the vehicle has run flawlessly and has been nearly as fuel efficient as advertised.
Wow good points! Did you ever thank of buying it sooner?
@verynick Honestly, no. It was the first time that I had ever purchased a vehicle at the end of the lease period. This was due to the low mileage and the lack of availability of an updated replacement model. This was during the pandemic.
2:12 The Crickets exploring the rav4 are very cute.
Excellent review as always. I have been watching your reviews for year, ever since I had young kids and needed a review showing rear seats and car seats. Thank you.
I appreciate the ground clearance comparrisons and graph at 7:20. very helpful
The RAV4 seems like a great vehicle , and I'd be tempted to get the RAV4 Prime, but with our household, a minivan would still be the top choice 😊
Thanks for sharing
It's not a great vehicle. Not even a middling or passable vehicle. Worse than average. Had one as a rental for a week and DESPISED it. Would never recommend buying one.
We have five in our family. We just sold our garbage Grand Caravan and got a Rogue! Half the gas usage and amazing ride! Mini vans are a poor choice for most.
@@cw4623 could you please elaborate whats wrong with it? Im considering one, thanks
If I got a family I would no doubt go for a Toyota Hybrid Sienna/Highlander minus a couple of mpg when compare to the rav4 hybrid but I'm all for it plus it's AWD too
Great review Alex- RAV4P's 0-60 is now #3 behind GRC ^^
#4 behind even the Crown Platinum
Oh no, they got rid of the physical infotainment controls 😞
Got a Limited this year for MSRP couple weeks ago, wish the CRV had the MPG, spare, and features since I prefer the interior.
Love my Rav4 hybrid AWD since Nov 2019
I have a Sportage hybrid SXP and love it. I get around 38 MPG. The size and features, the tech rich interior, and price are impressive. It is not perfect, but we love it.
Thanks, Alex for your great and thorough reviews! The RAV4 Hybrid is still an amazing vehicle with the best reliability and resale value in its class. It does have its shortcomings (rear legroom and noise), but ultimately, it all comes down to your needs and priorities for your vehicle choice!
It was the leg room and the road noise that killed it for me. Ended up with an Outback, which is more comfortable in my opinion, and while it has less road noise, it has some noticeable wind noise that I don't love... But over all, happy with the Outback. Hopefully it'll be as reliable as I was used to with Toyotas. It's fun to try something different (I've been a huge Toyota-Only fan for a long time). We'll see what Toyota and Subaru (and others) are offering hopefully a decade or so from now.
I traded my 2011 Kia Sorento for my new RAV4 Hybrid. The Sorento is better planted in corners and more comfortable on long drives, but I'm getting twice the MPG with a much better resale value.
Another outstanding review Alex. Your comparisons to other vehicles are top notch.
Excellent review, as always! Appreciate the comparison to competitors and all the detail. Very informative.
Many thx for yet another rav4 hybrid review 👍 Im with you since blue "smurf" model👍 I love them in this red body colour ❤
Thorough review! Thank you!
great reviews Alex
That is, my friend a very comprehensive review, so well done. Im in the Uk and i can't believe how much cheaper the car is in the USA compared to the uk - we are paying top dollar even second hand!
My 2013 RAV4 is still running flawlessly and I would drive it until the wheels fell off but I'd like better mileage and I'm also moving somewhere I expect to need some off-road capability. Obviously considering the new Land Cruiser but am weighing the peace of mind of a car that may be overkill for my needs against the higher pricetag and mileage that's barely better than what I get now (though way better than I could hope for in another off- roading car).
Your rav4 is a lot better than the new one. More spacious, more trunk space, nicer interior and a smoother engine and transmission. Not to mention the 4 cylinder in yours is oddly refined and sounds great at high rpm’s. It doesn’t buzz like a corolla engine
I just can't get past this antiquated etch-a-sketch style center console. Hope they integrate it better in the refresh
What seat settings does the passenger front seat offer. My partner is short and would like to be able to raise the seat. Second, will the Prime charge on the, on/off cycling, hotel style vehicle plug commonly found in Canada. Thanks, keep up the good work Alex.
Test drove one, ended up giving the key back to the Toyota salesman and left. The interior was too cramped. It rode pretty poorly and the engine sounded really cheap. I test drove all the other competitors and ultimately narrowed my choices down to the Kia Sportage and the Subaru Forester. Ended up with a brand new 2023 Kia Sportage. Not the hybrid, as they didn't have any available at the time. No regrets!
they need to build more prime version! this is y model y is taking their sales.
Yeah of course as my first hybrid SUV Alex.
Alex it would be great for more transparency on the cabin noise testing. It seems like every car you test is always somewhere from 68-74 decibels and after driving some of these cars in real life there can be huge differences between them. Maybe there’s a new way you can test them? Perhaps disclose the road type, speed, and wind on the day tested. My decibel meter has shown greater range and usually lower numbers than yours in the same models
I think the device he uses may not be accurate
Do you think an Apple Watch is an accurate way to measure sound?
Because in my v6 Camry, I’ve gotten 63-64db cabin noise at 70mph using my watch. That’s notably quieter than Alex’s score of the same car where he got 71dB
The difference between 68 and 74dB is huge. I believe for every 10dB sound is perceived to have doubled. I don’t know the device he uses or the consistency, but certainly it would make sense if all vehicles were within such a range given the numerous variables and conditions at play.
I drive a 2021 Venza with the Ecopia tires and the road noise is unpleasant. More attention to this aspect would be helpful.
68-74db is quite a large difference. It’s not a linear relationship
Great review. Perfect. Very informative. I'm incline to purchase a Rav4 Hybrid soon
The next step is to take it for a drive! -Travis
Straight forward reviews. Generally we're all need this & that interior to be improved from Toyota. But considering this way, why you see more Toyota on the road than others? Due to the reliability, resale value. Lastly, are we always using those gagets? Not so. Basically if you think it's expensive don't buy it. That's all.
I think a lot of manufacturers are sticking to incandescent bulbs for turn signals because they don't require a load resistor or a more complex flasher module as either of those add to the bottom line, and would require them to carry new stock instead of the same old blinker module they've been using since the switch to 12 volt systems.
Good point. Also some practical advantages of LED's are faster response time and much longer life, neither of which are critical for turn signals. LED turn signals are also "crisper", and some people might like the natural fade-in and fade-out effect of incandescent bulbs (some LED turn signals even mimic that via dimming).
Most of it has to do with the T1/T2 suppliers who are often laggards when it comes to upgrading tech when there's no perceived advantage. Most buyers don't calculate bulb turnover costs in cost of ownership. Only the acronym LED might hit some keyword for some buyers. The rapid blink rate for LEDs really should be a selling point for emergency situations since it's hard to miss a LED strobbing at 180Hz.
I am on the fence about buying a RAV4. I love what's under the hood, but the exterior design is so bulky and leaves much to be desired. I love the sleek look for the RDX and NX, but can't bring myself to pay for 91. In 2025, can we expect a new hybrid from the competition that can come close to combining style with RAV4-like practicality?
The only issue I see is the loudness of the cabin that everyone complains about. Is the Lexus NX the solution for that?
It is a hair quieter
How quiet? If it’s 73db no way. That makes my v6 Toyota quieter
@@naveenthemachine 6 will be quieter and smoother than 4.
@@gosman949 what’s odd is that the older 4 cylinder in the rav4 is a lot smoother than the current one
Can you do a review of the new Lexus RX 350h? I remember seeing some videos of the pre-production version, but it would be interesting to know more details about the vehicle.
It’s basically a rav4 hybrid with more weight
The hybrid powertrain in the RAV4 and Toyota reliability are an advantage. But, aside from mileage, does it have a higher torque than the Subaru Forester 2.5 boxer 4 with a CVT? Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you.
The Rav4 hybrid or prime looks promising ! We are looking for a new hybrid suv in this class. MPG is very important as we regularly do a 900 mile weekend trip which is mostly highway so being quiet and comfort are just as important if not more so to us. Rav4 hybrid & prime as well as the Sportage hybrid/PHEV are on the short list. But with the highway ride, quiet/comfort important, how do they compare ? What seems like a good model(s) to consider in your opinion ? Thanks, love the channel ! P.S. our neighbor has an newer RDX which is quite comfortable and quiet but barely gets 26 mpg so no way near the target 38-40 we were hoping to find but gives us a reference point in highway comfort.
Have you looked at the Venza? A neighbor of mine has one and she loves it. She had a RAV4 hybrid previously and prefers the Venza.
Check out Tucson as well. Bit more refined and quiet than rav4, but mpg may not be quite as good. Seats in rav4 are a bit firmer, which is more comfortable for me, but some may prefer the softer tucson seats. The sportage seats are more on the firm side, but sound system is awful if that’s meaningful to you.
If I found Tucson seats more comfortable (and they are, but too soft for me), Tucson would be my pick for overall refinement and int/ext design.
Bur not as reliable long term...
I have been thinking about this RAV4 Limited hybrid vs The None hybrid limited Which one should I consider buying for my self. A friend said the RAV4 hybrid is quicker than the none hybrid limited please I will appreciate if you can help me choose please reply
Hi Holly, in this review Alex says at different pints that the hybrid model is better than the non-hybrid, except for the fact that the job-hybrid has a mechanical and better all wheel drive while the hybrid’s is non-mechanical. It’s powered by the electric engine to the rear wheels. It works differently. Also, the wheels are different between the two models. In every other way, the hybrid is better.
Alex, that road surface looks very rough. Is the cabin as noisy on a better road surface? It just seems like a lot of cabin noise.
On my 2021 Venza road surface is very influential. On a smooth road, very quiet. On a rough surface (chip sealed) unpleasantly noisy. I have supplied Ecopia tires. Maybe Pirelli tires would fix that?
I'd buy the base hybrid.
Good video! If reliability and long term cost is one of the most important factor, how does the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV compare to this? Availability seems also better. Thanks!
RAV is likely less expensive long term
Alex, I hesitate to use such strong language but gosh darn it, Toyota would sell a 'heck' of a lot more RAV4 Hybrids if they could build them fast enough to keep up with demand. 🤨 In terms of a refresh, leg room in the back seat and competitive headroom are the most pressing priorities for the next RAV4. Let us hope the new RAV4 has a sliding second row like RAV4s of old.🤞🤞
With RAV4 Hybrid prices only heading upwards, it is time to put the 245 hp 2.5 drivetrain in all of them😁😁
I doubt that.
Do you have Suzuki? They have the same car and maybe better inventory.
@@MrRaitzi We do not have Suzuki over here anymore.
They would have to rethink where Toyota puts of the hybrid battery. It’s underneath the backseats
They are at nearly 40% of volume compared to 15% in 2019 so they are ramping things up rather quickly.
The CRV also has a mechanical AWD setup that send up to 50% of torque to the rear. Our 2023 CRV was superb in the central Wisconsin snow. I equipped ours with Michelin Cross Climate tires directly from the dealer since after 26 years I'm sick and tired of swapping summer and winter sets. Best decision I have ever made. It was unstoppable in all winter conditions, dare I say even better (probably because the overall less power) than any other AWD vehicle I have ever owned up here with Blizzaks, X ices or any dedicated winter tire.
I have not, driven the new hybrid RAV 4, but I have driven the regular gas version, quite honestly, the CRV's overall package is a categorically better vehicle in every way.
I just put cross climate 2 tires on my 2016 altima today lol.
CRV is a nice family car, but it has one of the worst performing AWD systems ever, you should watch some tests. It barely even spins the rear wheels.
@keponen331
It's not an offroad vehicle, nor is it meant to be. On dirt roads and paved ones, traction is excellent regardless of weather conditions.
@@Wised1000 doesnt have to be an off road vehicle to have good AWD, just look at Audi and Subaru
@keponen331 It will do exactly the same tricks any AWD that is not meant for offroading snow, ice and mud.
I a 2019 RAV4 XLE. I like it! But i’d rather have the payed version..the tech and material in the first version of this genre is ver lackluster..
The Tucson and Sportage aren't the same length?
Wow the screen is a BIG improvement from the 2021 model
Hoping the next gen. Rav4 adopts the boxy styling of the new Land Cruiser….that would be awesome.
I concur wholeheartedly! The new Land Cruiser and GX are two of the ew TNGA designs with abundant front and second row space.
Aerodynamic is important for rv4, not so much for land cruiser.
During the LC reveal there was a small boxy car in the background. That could be the Light Cruiser or Compact Cruiser or w.e. Toyota is going to call it.
Could you not just swap out incandescent bubs for LEDs in the rear fixtures, aftermarket? Or is there an electrical limitation that would prevent that?
u can, but u have to install a resistor to prevent hyperflashing, just be careful where u mount the resistors they can get very hot, should be mounted to metal. It's much easier in the front of the car where metal is plentiful but for the tail lights there is much less mounting spots. I'm sure u can even find some places that sell wiring harness for ease of installation and even anti-hyperflashing LED bulbs with built in resistors, but I don't know how good those are.
The main thing is the light pattern which might not be quite right with LED replacements
They sell many kits
Which one to choose, the Toyota hybrid system or the Kia/Hyundai’s?
Toyota all the way, it's extremely reliable and has been around a lot longer than Kia/Hyundai's system
1) Toyota
2) Lexus
I just got the Hyundai Tucson Hybrid, and couldn't be more impressed
It is more powerful than the Rav4, while being twice as smooth. Getting 34-45 MPG, but I drive it harder than most, and the 6-speed's smoothness more than makes up for it. I wouldn't get a CVT because of those NVH issues. Not one problem in 6000 miles. Looking 2024 Santa Fe Hybrid next
sorry but there is no way a 6 speed auto is smoother than an ECVT
@@bitbat9 agreed, but a 6-speed doesn't have a CVT's uber-annoying drone. I'd be all over the Hyundai or Kia instead for the ability to select gears, particularly in hilly or slippery conditions...
@@mattclark1278I just can't trust korens cars just yet! But they are getting very good
When coming to a hybrid automobiles technology is none compared to Toyota. Toyota has more than 20 years of experience in the real world.
very informative
I have R4P, but really should just have bought a normal hybrid just easier to maintain. The heat pump couldn't take the Vegas heat when was 110. I think normal hybrid's a/c is better. It is peppy but I drive as EV most of time only use gas on the highway. I wish car told me how many hours the ICE was on so oil changes aren't based on miles.
Я езжу на RAV4PLUGIN 2021 года. Эта машина в режиме "дом-работа" экономичней моего Prius Prime. Отличный баланс мощности и экономичности. Это то, что я долго хотел. Ну, а о надежности гибридов от Тойоты говорить не обязательно - очень надежный автомобиль.
How does it compare to Venza?
He has an entire video about that comparison.
the current CR-V hybrid is a better car overall; but the upcoming RAV4 ill likely be the king again
No it won’t 😂. Honda will always be king. Toyota can’t topple Honda in any category
I'd pick a Rogue for sure
They don't even have a hybrid! lol
awesome car and very reliable car of the 20th century.
No ability to pre-order and being subject to $6500 dealer 'adjustments' on the Rav4 Hybrid? No thanks Toyota. I'm done with you.
Was I the only one who's mind thought Grand Highlander upon seeing the thumbnail?
rav 4 hybrid awd as a tow vehicle for a boat. anyone has experience with it. i am concerned with the rear electric motor, high voltage cable vs the water when launching the boat.
That is a great question. As a long time small boat user, I am surprised a boat/trailer combination that can be towed with the RAV4 Hybrid's 1,750 tow rating requires the tow vehicle's rear axle to be submerged. Whenever I can I avoid sinking the trailer's axle under water.
@@rightlanehog3151" Whenever I can I avoid sinking the trailer's axle under water." you mean car axle?
The rear motor is sealed so this shouldn’t be a problem as long as the body is above water
@@robertduklus6555 Both. My boat is light enough that the whole trailer does not need to be submerged. I am trying to save the wheel bearings on the trailer and car. The winch can handle the task of pulling the boat out of the water.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I told you to borrow a boat and trailer to demonstrate the RAV4 Hybrid's towing prowess. 😉
40MPG is impressive for the size of this car, RAV4 is not the best in term of design and comfort but liability does, for me liability and fuel-efficient is first priority when consider buying a new car, that's why it is one of the best selling suv out there.
Of course you mean reliability :)
Look up what “liability” means.
Every car is a liability unless it is a collectors item. My 1996 Avalon was a liability when it came to the expense of replacing the leaking steering rack and GM made radiator. My Prius V was a huge liability when the inverter went at 86K miles, car wouldn't start.
Interesting. My 2023 Sienna Platinum gets over 40MPG with mostly highway driving :). My 2016 CRV gets 27MPG on a good day. My wife wants another CRV, but hybrid. I want her to get the Highlander because it seems bigger. Need to test drive. Yes, I paid $4K over invoice for the Sienna, but man, it really does get over 40MPG and has the pickup in sport mode when needed. I keep it in ECO mode most of the time.
I hope Toyota put something more than a single bulb for the brake lights.
I'm waiting for a true refresh, 2025?
Gas isn’t going anywhere soon. Hybrids make sense for most people. You just can’t deny the cost benefits of 40mpg. Of course, once everyone owns hybrids gas prices will just level out and the economic benefits will evaporate.
That would be because there are more vehicles continually being added to the world fleet, its all a function of supply and demand.
The only problem is wait time for Toyotas is nearly 1-2 years ….
I've considered buying a used one just a month ago. Ended up buying used Forester SJ instead. Do not regret my choice.
RAV4 is nice, has more cargo room than Forester, but not as comfortable. It feels more claustrophobic. My previous cars were minivans (European kind of minivans: Opel Zafira, VW Touran, which are much smaller than minivans sold in US), so I'm used to having a lot of space, comfortable suspension and big windows, RAV4 doesn't have that.
It needs more effort for the interior design , material , motor sound isolation
That’s a thing of the past
You want interior design materials nvh control go with the competition
While I'd buy other gasoline models over the gasser RAV4, hard to beat the overall package of what the Hybrid offers, even going on model year 6 as we head into 2024.
I just rented one for a week while in Arizona, and I naturallly compared it to my wife's '23 Sport Touring CRV Hybrid. They were close in most highway and in-town driving, but some user interface differences that were really just minor. Seemed like a few more storage spots and I liked the instrument cluster options more than the one in CRV, but the entertainment system didn't seem to care for my Android Galaxy S21 Ultra. Kept disconnecting. I thought the ride was louder and harsher in the Toyota, and the ride in driver's seat (didn't sit in the passenger seat) was not as comfortable as the CRV. Seemed less sure-footed and much less comfortable on rough gravel roads and light offroading in the desert. The RAV4 did not have all the safety additions that came standard on the CRV, and overall I didn't care for the driving dynamics and "feel" of the engine when I went up steeper grades in my low mileage rental. Glad we chose the CRV for our needs.
Your crv drives better than the rav4 while still being smoother
@@naveenthemachine I felt the CRV ride/suspension was softer over rough gravel roads and light offroading. I also felt the throttle response was smoother going up hills. The Toyata seemed to like to downshift earlier and stay in the lower gear longer. Made the enginve rev higher. I'm sure it was operating for max efficiency, but it felt uncomfortably high for me. Purely subjective, and I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if I didn't have familaiarity with the CRV to compare it to. It still annoyed me though.
I am surprised to learn rental fleets can get their hands on RAV4 Hybrids when so many consumers are left on waiting lists.
@@rightlanehog3151 Me too, AND it was a free upgrade. I just smiled and took the keys.
I would try and stretch for a VENZA.
I like the Venza but it has less room to stretch than a RAV4.
The venza is a bad option imo. I’d go for a Santa Fe instead
That infotainment screen just looks ancient... especially compared to Kia's newer interior designs or even the bZ4X.
The bz4x looks as dated as the rav4
lol@@naveenthemachine
I guess I really don't understand a buying decision based on a screen... maybe cuz my concerns are reliability, safety and not items that have nothing to do with transportation...
Rav4 hybrid has more than inch ground clearance over over CRV hybrid and offers spare wheel and tire makes it a no brainer. CRV offers much better rear legroom though.
4:45 Rav9?! 4 stands for 4 wheel drive
Rav9 in this case refers to Mazda having a CX9 which is much roomier than a CX5. Think about it.
I see Toyota's still the king of screen bezels.
Best seller for people that don't mind getting screwed with a bad investment.
Never buy a daily driver car as an investment 😊
if toyota believed their hybrid everything ethos, they would actually sell just the prime and hybrid. but they dont.
Yes, their Hybrid rhetoric is getting pretty thin with the chronic shortage of supply coupled with dealership mendacity.
Year after year Rav4 is only getting better. Can't believe competitors still can't build enough hybrids to challenge it aside from Honda CRV.
tuscon/sportage are very competitive in some ways better than rav4
Wrong. The competition is far superior to the rav4
The only car the rav4 ties with is the Chevy equinox
Gotta love these comments from people that never owned a Rav4 hybrid........ it's truly hilarious 😂😂😂
@@henryhonda8408 got love comments from people that have never driven the far superior competition. Only sheeps buy a rav4. Most people who look at Toyotas don’t know other cars exist
@@naveenthemachine obviously you don't know me. 😂😂😂 I've owned mostly Hondas all my life & they were great! Loved them all except maybe my 1999 Civic! My Rav4 XSE hybrid is my first Toyota and its blown me away........ best vehicle I've ever owned by far!
Don't watch 23:28 full screen for too long if you get motion sickness lol
Wouldn’t you argue that all the different RAV4 models are no different than all the different F models for Ford? A RAV4 Prime is a completely different vehicle in almost every way but the shell from a base RAV4, but still counts as a RAV4 sold…So, a RAV4 Prime could be like an F350 as opposed to the RAV4 Hybrid being something like a Ford 250, and the regular engine the F150? No?
Could you go over the reliability differences and why with this RAV4 system versus the Korean ones? It'd be good information for long term owners.
Personally, I've also driven both a RAV4 and a Tucson extensively, and the RAV4 infotainment system is still not equal to the Korean setup. I will say the gauge cluster is more customizable with Toyota, but it looks like 3 separate screens together and with older styles. Not attractive to me.
That isn’t going to happen. New car review channels don’t get into reliability. It’s not wise. They just show us a car as it sits brand new.
@@2004cyrus that doesn't make sense. He mentions reliability already.
You know exactly what you're getting when you buy a Toyota - long term reliability. The Koreans have caught up a fair bit in recent years but you can't really argue against 20+ years of proven results when it comes to hybrid technology.
@@Traysandor I don't think anyone is arguing against history.
@@Traysandor oh is that right? How do you explain the Camrys transmission problems that are documented by shops and mechanics nationwide that happened for about 4 years? Caused a lot of headaches for people. Toyota is a mechanical thing that still breaks.
My local dealer had a $10k markup on RAV4 Prime. You can buy a lot of gas for $10k.
Just building charging stations is not enough, power transmission lines need to be upgraded too, along with other equipment like sub stations and Transformers. Peak loads will be very once everyone starts charging...
so rav4 and 4Runner in 2025 ??
Toyota Hybrids aren’t fair at this point. RAV4 Hybrid gets 40mpg. Camry gets 46mpg. Corolla gets 50mpg. Prius gets over 50mpg. Highlander gets 35mpg. Sienna gets 35mpg. Grand Highlander gets over 30mpg is base form and near 30mpg in the overpowered Hybrid Max configuration (360hp/400ft-lbs). Tacoma is said to get 27mpg. It’s honestly not fair at this point.