I just bought a XSE Hybrid for my 21 year old son. I looked at cars for him for MONTHS. We checked out Kia, Honda, Mazda, and Subaru. I think the RAV4 is a much better choice than the competition for several reasons. Toyota has a ton of safety features on their cars even on their lowest trim models. Most of the CRVs we looked at did NOT have Blind Spot monitoring (the dealers said the chip shortage). That to me was a big no-no for a younger driver. The RAV also has a great back-up camera and that Lane Keep Assist will beep if you move out of your lane. You can't beat the MPG on the Hybrid -- he is averaging 42 city. The car is peppy and quiet and doesn't even feel like a 4 cylinder. There are also a bunch of USB ports all over the car-- Honda is lacking with those. His opinion was that the RAV 4 was sportier looking -- the CRV gives mom vibes. The CRV is a great car, but I think Toyota wins this.
Good review. A difference that you didn't mention, a very important one, is reliability. The Toyota hybrids are reaching 300k miles, they are so reliable. In fact, when I bought my 2023 Rav4 hybrid, my dealer threw in a lifetime powertrain warranty. You won't find this level of reliability in a Honda.
lifetime powertrain warranty doesn't mean it's reliable. Dodge dealers used to offer those often. They have lots of restrictions, you have to get all your maintenance done at the dealer, they will rip you off on the maintenance which will more than make up any future repairs needed, if any...
I got hella lucky. I totaled my car 3 weeks ago and found and bought 2023 hybrid XSE with full option that just came in from Japan a week ago. Many dealers told me 8month to 1yr+ wait for XSE. Yes, I did pay markup but insurance paid me more so I'm good.
I am happy to say I got my Rav4. Compared to CRV, Rav4 is far more attractive to me. I got the limited trim, same color as the reviewed car here. I was gonna get the XSE, thank God I got a good deal with the limited one. So far I am loving this car, no complains yet.
LED taillights are standard on all RAV4’s from gas to hybrid to plug in hybrid. The only thing that’s incandescent are the reverse and turn signals which is the same setup with the CR-V
Stumbled upon this channel, probably the best review on youtube. It's great for people who know little, and enjoy deeper dives. most of the other reviews talk about a lot of fluff that we don't need. This is perfect. The CRV review, you hit the top 3 things that pissed me off in the first minute of the video. Excellent stuff.
I just bought a Rav4 XLE Hybrid for my son. It is a major upgrade from his old Ford Escape Hybrid in every way: More power, better tech, better styling, materials, engineering, build quality, etc. We looked at the Limited model too, but the XLE seemed to be a better value for the money.
In Consumer Reports they downgraded the Rav4 for having too much noise in the cabin. I test drove one and I didn't notice anything. But has your son mentioned that? Maybe they were just nitpicking.
@@pelicanhill3251i drive hybrid one, comparing it here (EU) to the nearest competitors like Ford Kuga (i think US Escape) Hybrid or CR-V it is definitely noisier but for me it's just enough. You can cruise at 140km/h and comfortably talk with passengers or listen to the radio. I have a theory that people (but mostly car journalists) say it's noisy because when you are driving economically engine is mostly turned off or is on like 1,5k rpm so it's quiet but everyone when testing a car needs to do one full power pull and then the engine really kicks in and people start to complain about either noise canceling or CVT gearbox. But when driving normally you can barely hear the engine, I have mostly 60-70% ev driving %.
A couple of clarifications from this review… the 10.5” infotainment screen, and the 12” digital instrument cluster are only available in upper trim levels and then usually only as an option (at least on the 10.5” screen)
1:26 Mine also had a rattling in the trunk. On mine, it was because the license plate cover and the plate itself would vibrate against each other. I got a different cover and that fixed it.
Thanks for mentioning the small but very useful cubby holes around the dash. The small one for the driver and the large one for passengers, and the wireless charging pad. Things like that matter to me.
2019+ RAV4 tail lights are all LEDs. Brake lights are LEDs also. Rear turn signal and reverse bulbs are incandescent. There are no 5th generation RAV4 Platinum models in the U.S. currently.
Been going back and forth between the RAV4 and CR-V.. I think I’ve finally decided on the RAV4.. You just get so much more for the price than the CR-V… I do like the CR-V’s interior a little more, but damn. Such a hard decision.
I've been split between those as well 😆 I started considering the RAV4 Prime potentially, but it's such a big price jump for something I'll likely rarely use, or don't want to stress out finding where I'll charge it between places, even though it can just run as a normal hybrid, but then why not just stick with the hybrid and save 25%/10k on the price. Pushing the 40-50k price range starts to feel like you're starting to enter the some luxury-end vehicle price ranges. I want the RAV4 to feel like a luxury vehicle, but there's a few things I imagine keep it from that -- I've heard the road noise isn't great and the engine noise can be loud as well, and now hearing about the sub is a bit odd as well -- you pay for the high end speaker system but it sounds like they don't add any dampening 🤔
@@CTSSTC don’t forget the government does have a tax credit for electric so if that version is electric you should look up and see if there’s a credit for it cause that could end up saving you that extra 10k or so.
I just bought a RAV 4 for my son. It was really hard to decide between that and the CR-V. I love the CR-V, but they are often missing Blind Spot because of the chip shortage. I personally like the way the CR-V looks more than the RAV, but the RAV has better tech and better reliability. They are both excellent choices.
@@CTSSTC I'm in the same boat, currently driving a gas hog WRX STI. I spend $120 in gas a week so the monthly payment going up even a couple hundred bucks is worth it to me. Plus with the Prime there's a $7,500 tax credit when you buy new. I came from owning a Tesla and loved just being able to plug in, drive to work, and come back home for a $60 electric bill increase. Unfortunately with MN winters and distances across the state I cannot do that without adding a couple hours of time in-between. In my eyes the Prime is worth it if you're commuting to work and it's less then 40 miles a day. Plus the heads up display is well worth the money, $3,000 for distracted free driving right on the windshield. If you're going to buy new with the Rav4 get the Prime with the tax credit (Technically its $43,000 at that point). I say go for it if you're going to hold onto it. On average you'll see any Toyota with 200k-350k in miles and they hold their value better then most cars.
Funny all the defenders of Honda in CRV hybrid videos say that the CRV gets 28mpg due to cold why doesn't the rav4 drop as much? Because Toyota is better Honda isn't
9:29 next to the button to open the tail gate is a much smaller dot that locks the car. But I could just use the remote while the gate is closing to do the same.
I was just about to make a comment about the very basic (and in some cases cheap plastics) when you made the final statement about it being basic and not sexy. That is most definitely true. Its neither warm nor inviting inside, but it is utilitarian in design.
The only negative thing about my 2022 RAV4 XLE Hybrid is that after two + hours, the seats become less comfortable. The 40 city Mpg, and over 36 Mpg on limited access highway (with cruise control set at 78 mph), more than makes up for this.
I thought my friend's RAV4 Hybrid was a bit uncomfortable to be driving in for 2 days nearly halfway across the country, but thought that it was potentially due to being in the passenger seat and having the lowest package.
@@CTSSTC, I went from a 2011 Kia Sorento to this '22 RAV4. The Kia was more stable while turning, and more comfortable on long trips, but I would not trade back.
I still goes with this Rav4 even though CRV is competitive. My sister has Rav4 but its not Hybrid, how i wish i could have one of those which is really outstanding. Thanks cor sharing.
Getting mine end of April in the unicorn color Cavalry Blue with loaded Tech Package. Trading in my 4-month old ‘23 CRV Sport Touring for a lot of the same reasons you pointed out. Main reason (which you didn’t mention here iirc) is that RAV4 Hybrids have a spare tire while the CRV Hybrids provide you with a fix a flat can that would mean you have to replace that tire you just plugged asap. For the same price point of a tech packaged XSE and Sport Touring, you get so much more in a RAV4z. Yes, the “luxuries” in a CRV is better but at that point, get an Acura or a Lexus 🤷🏽♂️
I'd still take the comfort/ space/sizein the c r v... Not to mention, the dash just looks so much better and an easier infoset up on screen.... But yes, no spare tire sucks and the back not Being flat when the seats are down, just really burn me.
My 2023 RAV4 Hybrid XLE is 2 days old. I went from a 2020 Jeep Cherokee Limited. I like that the RAV4 is bigger; I can fit 2 sets of golf clubs width wise in the back and not have to put the seats down. I like the storage cover. The gas mileage is WAY better. A few knocks. The front passenger seat is manual. No leather. I find the cabin storage lacking. The center console has one big storage bin instead of a large storage bin and then a smaller one on top like the Jeep. No coin holder (I know, nitpick). Not sure about the interface yet, might just have to get used to it after having the Jeep for 3 years.
I love that you point out the great features of the Toyota RAV4 but then make fun of what you believe is lacking or should have been done to improve it in your own quirky but funny way.
Even if there is a down side. Picking the brand who will most likely let my family go somewhere without letting us down is #1 by a landslide! That is truly all that I care about. Personally I've had amazing luck with Nissan. I've driven my 2 nissans around 700,000km combined and have only spent about $400 in all that time for a wheel hub. I changed my own brake pads, do my own oil changes... never an issue. however i like Lexus which I've owned and loved. and Toyota the most!
Picked up a 2023 hybrid XSE with full option in that exact same silver sky color minus running board a week ago and first thing I did notice was weird door handle positon, took a minute to figure out how to close the door. Smh. This is major issue for me and it is a design flaw. Still can't get used to it. I don't think average kids or seniors can close or control open in tight spot or windy weather without potentially ding other car. I watched ton of Rav4 reviews but you are the only reviewer mention this issue. My two other cons are crappy JBL premium sound and backup pedestrian alert sound, which I deleted it already. Simply couldn't stand it and didn't want to inform every neighbor whenever I'm leaving. Keep it if you can't safely back up a small SUV. Btw, CRV has more cargo space due to no spare tire, one of many reasons why I chose Rav4. For me, a spare tire is one of those things that I must have even if I don't use it.
I'm not happy with the door hinges either. Feels cheap. Sad to hear the JBL system isn't much better than the non-JBL. Definitely need to upgrade the sound system on mine!
Excellent, focused and informative review. The last segment of mildly unwelcome findings was excellent and helpful. I would keep those types of findings in all of your reviews.
I just put the rear seats back in my 2000 RAV4, after being out the 6 years I owned, while doing so I realized they reclined, pretty cool! I'm buying a 2021 Prime with 22 K miles in a couple of days, it will be my 5 th Toyota.
I have to admit I'm a Honda guy and a fan of the C-V but I love this Rav4. I'm guessing that the spare tire I carry everywhere in my Cr-V takes up about ... 2 cu. ft. (The motive battery is in the spare tire well) Now we're even, as for cargo space ;)
All my life I wanted a Rav4 Hybrid. This year I finally bought a brand new 2023 and I love the hybrid mileage, the ground clearance and the 4 wheel drive. I was so in love that I totally ignored all the drastic design flaws. The roof is two inches too low. I am 5'10" with a tall torso and I bang my head every time I get in and out and what's even worse is the serious visibility flaws. When I look 30 degrees to the right the rear view mirror is directly in front of my face. If I want to look 30 degrees to the right I have to duck my head down to see underneath the rear view mirror. The center console is three inches too wide on both sides. It digs into my right knee making it painful to my knee cap to keep my foot on the accelerator pedal. I’m thinking about gluing on some padding to ease this problem. My wife also complains about leg discomfort on her side. The side pillars are so wide that I absolutely cannot see oncoming cars at intersections of less than ninety degrees. I feel like this is going to kill me one day. The headrest is so stupidly designed that I sometimes feel like it is forcing my head down. After four months of constantly banging my head, serious visibility problems, the most uncomfortable seating and the loudest road and wind noise of any car I have ever owned I am now sorry that I ever bought a RAV4 at all. Plus I heard of a new class action law suit because the moon roof drains are short circuiting the air bags which it claims Toyota knew about but failed to fix which the customer must now pay to fix and there is other talk about a power cable corrosion that may cost up to $6K to fix. After four months of living with this car I'm now sorry I ever bought a RAV4.
You got that right. It feels much much better.. And Im a huge toyota fan... I can't get over the difference.. And am favoring the CRV quite a bit more... Wish it had Toyota's drive train....
I just traded in a 2008 Camry Hybrid base model for the 2023 RAV4 Hybrid XLE and so far it feels like a downgrade. They are different types of vehicles, so it could just be my expectations are off, but the RAV4 doesn't feel like a very good value. It seems...cheap, inside and out and the seat cushions and fabric aren't comfortable, doors close and wobble weirdly, the motor sounds like a far away ambulance when slowing down (a little unnerving), the sound system is disappointing, and many more things I am not all that happy with. But, I'll give it some time. The gas mileage has been great (around 45) and it handles similarly to my Camry. I don't mind the road noise people mention; I feel pretty connected to the road. It's helpful having all that cargo space and the seats fold down nicely. Good turning radius.
Overall I'm happy with my 2021 XSE RAV4 but I have a few comments or complaints after driving it for 2 years: 1) Leather seats only available in top trim level, 2) Panoramic sunroof not available in Canada, 3) TPMS not available in Canada, 4) Not all door buttons iluminate at night (hard to see & locate buttons when dark).
Leather seats? Gross. I love that none of the US models come with stinky dead animal skins covering the seats. Even if you liked that smell, show me a car that is more than 10 years old with leather seats that look good. The best of them still look cracked or overly shiny in wear areas.
informative and good detail. Helps narrow down what I'm looking for. Thanks for the presentation. The likelihood getting over 41 mpg comb. on all-wheel drive in an SUV hybrid is impressive!
I was driving the crv while waiting a long time for the Rav. Love both cars but Rav 4 boot is definitely smaller. Also I am short and have the seat nearer the steering wheel, I hit my head on the door post getting in
Great review and appreciate the comparison to CRV. One thing not mentioned is that in Hybrid, the CRV is waaay more expensive. That seems counterintuitive... one main reason people get a hybrid is to save money on fuel costs, but then you have to spend 10 grand more for the CRV?!? Also enjoy the "odds and ends" ... one thing I would mention is the black trim around the wheels. Not sure why higher trims have them as painted metal - I much prefer the black plastic molding on most other trims and vehicles. I think that feature is more about utility (prevention of rust) then about looks.
thanks! I hope to get behind the wheel of a Woodland later this year, but it largely depends on availability. I would say the XLE Prem just because I would prefer the Softex seats
If and when you get a chance to review the woodland, can you please find out exactly what the “TRD tuned suspension” is? It’s still 8.1” of ground clearance, but does it have TRD coil springs, dampers/shocks, and bump stops? Is it noticeably stiffer than the regular hybrid? Thanks
I just bought a 2020 Rav4 XLE Hybrid with 15,000 miles for $36,000. I have been driving it on the highway and it doesn't have any problem with wind noise. In fact the front windows are thick, acoustic glass to make it quiet inside. The interior is not Lexus-quality, but I'm OK with that. Everything works well, it's fun to drive, and it gets over 40 mpg. I highly recommend the Rav4 to anyone in the market for a great SUV.
The door closing is odd. It does seem like cabin pressure makes it harder to close the last door. But not if another door is open or window is down. I can be aware and adjust as needed w few slams or second attempts. But my kids keep having to try 2x or something is open making it easy and they slam it. I’ve never experienced it on anything else in 45yrs.
I've had my Rav4 XSE hybrid for exactly 3 years now and I don't find closing the driver door a problem at all. I just shake my head every time I hear people complain about this non problem.
I remember i drove an Audi TT once (~2003) and was super impressed that when you opened the door the window would automatically go down about .5cm and then go back up once you closed the door. This was Audi’s answer to the tight cabin issue. Of course, I’m sure it would cost a lot to fix if it broke, but that’s German engineering for you.
Nice review! Honest and to the point which is most helpful. We are looking to trade our 2019 Rav for a 2023 Hybrid. Our 2019 brings 25K on trade at our local Toyota dealer. Thanks
I wish all these car manufacturers would dump the 60/40 split in the second row seats, and make them all 40/20/40 like with the Audi Q8 and Porches. That middle fold down is incredibly useful, and allows 4 full seats, 2 front, 2 second row, when you have to put the middle part of the second row down, while whenever you have to put part of the second row down in a 60/40 split, you get 3 and a fraction adult seats. Dump the 60/40 guys, and go the 40/20/40.
The hybrid Rav4 is a wonderful car. The doors, wheel wells and undercarriage need more insulation. The hybrid backup sound is weird and annoying - I wish someone would offer a different noise maker. Other than that, it is easy to drive, has good visibility and the gas mileage is great. The non-hybrid is slow.
Thanks for your review, the RAV4 is on my list. For negatives, how about how noisy RAV4 can be at times? I guess that's par for the course at this price point though. How loud is it on the freeway at cruising speed (not passing), maybe around 70 mph? Is the CRV quieter? Also, I'm sad that Toyota couldn't give this refresh TSS 3.0. Do you know why? Is it missing some sensors by chance? What can TSS 3.0 do that TSS 2.5 (+?) can not do? Finally - can any part of the 2023 RAV4 be updated over the air? What about CRV?
Is the engine noise always like this? I feel when I start the car and give two minutes while driving it I hear this engine noise when I step on the gas and it struggles, specially up the hill . I feel like I need to put on sport mode
Saw my 1st XSE hybrid just the other day it was white. On closer inspection noted all the polished black plastic trims around the wheel wells and lower body. Interesting look, but couldnt help but wonder how durable that will be against scratching and scuffing over time? Seems to me the typical textured matte plastic is tried and true, so it looks like a risky styling move to me?
Great review. I’m in the market for a compact SUV and one of these makes a lot of sense for a number of reasons. While I am what I would consider an enthusiast my wife is not. She wants something that she can just jump in and go. She isn’t going to be extra careful with her vehicle and that is why I wouldn’t consider one of the more luxurious options yet she deserves something nice so I think this fits the bill nicely. While this isn’t exciting to some, we are coming from an older commuter so I think we would love and be impressed with one of these. Lastly we also pull a personal watercraft and I think the capability with the RAV4 is just enough. My only issue is how popular these are and it kills me to have to pay over MSRP. Hopefully we will see that change soon
Some negatives about the Limited (trims that have the larger infotainment): - The infotainment system itself is just... bad. A screen that size should be able to do split display of functions. It doesn't. Why would anyone want to see the entire screen filled with Energy Flow??? We should be able to see Nav, Music track, Energy flow, and messages split like you get on the lower trims. Plus, if you have Android Auto connected, it makes navigating through menus a NIGHTMARE! Many people are complaining about this. Not to mention the AA auto connection is very iffy. - Pretty much no light in the tail gate. Just one tiny side light that isn't functional at all. It takes someone putting in aftermarket light sets to make anything visible. - JBL sound system. It's not just bad. It's atrocious!! They put in these really small and cheap dash speakers that make anything that's not a podcast sound flat and overly loud without any lows. Those speakers must be replaced IMMEDIATELY with low sensitivity speakers so that lows pass through to other speakers and the sound is 90% better. Even just taking out those dash speakers alone and leaving nothing there is a vast improvement!!! - No bucket seat on earth is good for the human body. This Gen of RAV4 is no different. It's a must for any grown adult to find a seat wedge that works to get your legs and torso as close to 90 degrees or wider or else you'll develop sciatica if you already haven't. And if you have it, it will be so much worse. - The button row where the heated steering wheel/odometer/view functions are... they can't be seen unless you take your eyes off the road and lean down to look. Not safe, but I put some sticker bumps on 3 of them so I can find them by touch. - Lastly, and this is reeeeally just stupid. Why on earth don't the RAV4's have pockets on the back of the driver's seat?!?! You said that the roof racks can be adjusted to a preferred position but that's not true. You can take them off or leave them on but only in their set positions. That's neither a plus nor minus but I took mine off because I didn't like the moon roof overhead being blocked. I'm not thrilled by the cargo space but it's okay. I have NO clue why they don't have latches so you can place the cargo net upright near the tailgate! I like the way the back lights look. The ones on the CR-V are overkill IMO. Another plus the higher trims of RAV4 have over the highest trim of CR-V is that you can touch open and touch lock all four doors no the former, but not the latter. Another difference is that many of us still like to mount a phone (but not on the dam windshield) since AA/ACP don't do everything. In the RAV4, you can vent mount (if you find the right one). There's nowhere to mount anything on the CR-V thanks to that unappealing honeycomb grid for vents. You left out one of the best features: The memory seat! I love it. I use the 2nd button when I get out of the car so I won't ever bump the steering wheel when I get out or in. Once in, I tap 1 and it takes me right to driving position. HOWEVER, there is one minor fault! If you turn off the car power after you park, the memory seat buttons won't work until you either open the door or tap the power button. That's a little annoying. MPG on the RAV4 is MUCH MUCH better than the CR-V Touring. Even though the CR-V Touring costs less, it's bang for the bug is much less.
@@kxrnah8472 No dedicated button but it does work fine via the lock/lock/hold-lock on the fob. Not to mention it's easy to do it through the Toyota Connect phone app. It's a minor thing that the engine will turn off once you open the door but I know why they do that and I'm okay with it.
I picked up my RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser today (after a 2-year wait). With my limited time with this car, I agree with everything said in this video. However, I live in Australia, so I doubt if Septics will need to wait as long as I did for the delivery of this car.
The 2023 BMW X1 is about the same size, better seats, quicker, nimbler, roomy, better driver aids, quieter, and quicker delivery. And no dealer mark up, which means cost is comparable to RAV 4 even with options to make it the same. But half the gas mileage!
I was looking at the '23 Rav4 Hybrids to replace my aging CRV, but curious if you know why Toyota went with AWD on all trim levels? Living in Phx AZ, we mainly stay on pavement and rarely see ice or snow, AWD isn't a necessity or desire. Will Toyota offer a Rav4 hybrid in FWD? Thx
If none of your tires slips then you’ll be FWD but if one of them is not getting a good grip then it will automatically change to AWD. That’s what Toyota calls AWD in demand.
AWD might help you when you drive on a sandy beach some day..... you never know. I was watching a PGA tournament a few years back & it was delayed a few hours in the morning because of a morning snow fall........ it was near Phoenix in February I believe.
Mark ups at the local dealer are gone but still you have to take what they have coming in which are full of expensive packages for luxury and useless trims.
I just received my 2023 Rav4 Hybrid Woodlands Edition in Calvary Blue. After two weeks of use, I'm 50/50 on my purchase, even thinking about trading it in for something else. I was torn between a Kia Portage Hybrid and the Rav4 Hybrid, both tough to get. You have to reserve incoming vehicles to get a chance at any of these cars. The Rav4 became available first so I went with it. I traded-in a 2020 Subaru Crosstrek for the Rav4, which was a great car with the exception of gas mileage. Needed to get a little bigger car due to back surgery and wanted to take advantage of the hybrid technology and high trade-in value for my Subaru. I research purchases to death and relied a lot on reviews like this one, as well as Consumer Report reviews. I didn't get a chance to conduct much of a Rav4 test drive as these are non-existence on dealer lots in my area. The two main negatives for me are the ride and noise, which were identified as cons on many reviews; I just didn't think it would be as bad as it is. The ride to me is a 2 out of 5, and I'm being generous. You feel EVERY bump in the road and the response is super stiff and somewhat jarring. Plus, the bump reaction noise is what is loud, not so much wind noise that is noted in some reviews. The Kia Sportage is a much better ride. The initial gas mileage average is around 35-37. I would expect you would get at or near the listed 38 MPG on an extended highway trip. So the estimated EPA mileage is fairly accurate. The speakers are literally garbage and I have replaced them with moderately upgraded speakers, which are much better. I don't know why vehicles cost so much, because they are all junk plastic parts that snap together. I found that out changing the speakers. If you have the money, without question, opt for the Highlander. The ride difference is night and day, but you're looking at perhaps a $ 10K additional cost. If you don't have the extra cash and ride/comfort is your primary feature, you are way better off with the Kia Sportage or Honda CR-V.
I don’t have those issues with my 22’ SE. only had to replace speakers but then that that solved my issues. Ride is soft and I’ve had an Ls400. MPGs my wife drives a lot normally and she gets 40 average and I’ve done about same driving like a grandma. Build quality to my is impressive with no noises, I’ve only spotted one spot where the gap didn’t align perfectly but that was by the corner of the door so I cant really see it normally. Also worth mentioning mine is made in the US so maybe the ones here are 50/50. End of the day, for 40ish thousand dollars, theres great competition with better interiors but I like my utilitarian car that gets great mileage and is quick when needed. We plan on keeping it long term.
very good video i will sub you :) also you should probably add how tall you are when you talk about leg room in the back seat to give a better representation.
I think the drivers leg room is poor on the Rav4. The window controls and the center consol both push your knees together. If your tall(or big) it’s not comfortable.
I'm ok with my leg room as the driver, but my passenger, who's 5' 7", had her knees against the glove compartment with the seat moved back as far as it can go. That's a bummer for all tall passengers.
The only problem I’ve been told almost a YEAR wait for HYBRID XSE setting for gas lease then hoping things get normal in 2 years & trade in for Hopefully TOTALLY Redesigned” AVAILABLE “2025 HYBRID XSE Great review THX
You didn't mention that the CR-V forward collision system will try to kill you when driving. Mine will not see a stopped car at an intersection and will accelerate right into the back of them. I hate it.
I Goggled "2023 toyota rav4 hybrid towing capacity" it says towing capacity is 1750 lbs. But it also states it can handle 3500 lbs? So I'm wondering if the rav4 hybrid can handle up to 3500 lbs would you know?
Am I dumb? Which trim has the head up display? One reason I wanted the Prime was for that. But... I don't think I can justify the price. And I can't do home charging till 2026.
@@dwnshft How is the comfort of the drivers seat in the RAV4 vs the CRV? Which one would be better on my butt in a longer road trip? Thanks - great video!
@@PaulMahoney-j1gI think c r v's better now... For once. Toyota's have always had more complete seats. That's why I'm a Toyota fan river doesn't seem so in these now
I'm not a huge fan of these seats. The bottom cushion is noticeably thinner/lumpier than other cars I've driven and owned, so I'm going to buy an extra cushion. I also like road trips and want to make sure I'm comfortable!
The worst thing about the Car is the Carplay head unit. It’s great for phone sound, but the interface between using the traditional radio is a nightmare. It requires using the paddle wheel on the steering wheel and the center of the drivers display console. That’s the only way I have found to get to the radio. Even though it says radio on the CarPlay that is either IHeart, or Sirius XM. If you have it you could be using Tune In. There are only two apps for weather and one has a weather map but charges you for it. (Hello AccuWeather and Weather Channel). The door entry is smaller than a Subaru Forester and big people have to fold their neck to get in. I get 38-42 mpg in ECO mode. The daytime running lights are awesome. It’s almost like you have low, med, and high beams. The key should just be a push button. I own the 2023 RAV4 Hybrid LE.
I just bought the SE in black. Overall like the look but the back bumper is odd. They all have the gray color bumper. Bit of an eyesore. But just being picky. I may get it wrapped to match the black paint.
Went to see this today. Stepping into it from my XC60, it felt cheap. Shame cause I really wanted to like it as they have a great reputation for reliability.
@@sharkhark I’m in Europe. Toyota RAV4 hybrid style AWD: 50,000 euros. Volvo XC60 mild hybrid AWD 48,900. So the Volvo is actually cheaper, but it is a mild hybrid, not a proper one. Still that price is with a diesel engine, will be cheaper with petrol! The Volvo recharge model is more expensive at around 60k, but it’s a plug-in which will do up to 70kms on battery alone.
Does it come with a spare tire? If it doesn't, is there a space to put one? I drive about 100 miles roundtrip to work, and would not get a car/suv without a spare. Currently I drive a 2017 Accord Hybrid, which did not come with a spare, I took the Styrofoam insert and put in a spare to the surface is flat.
Did you notice a difference in the brake feel between the 2 cars? The Rav4 transitions in a weird way from regen braking to normal brake pads. And you feel it every single time the car comes to a stop.
I think all Toyota Hybrids do this. It took me some getting used to with my first one from 2008. the RAV4 does it too. The hydraulics engage very late and hard, then there's a sort of moment where you feel like it releases and you coast forward slightly. It was pretty disconcerting at first.
I just bought a XSE Hybrid for my 21 year old son. I looked at cars for him for MONTHS. We checked out Kia, Honda, Mazda, and Subaru. I think the RAV4 is a much better choice than the competition for several reasons. Toyota has a ton of safety features on their cars even on their lowest trim models. Most of the CRVs we looked at did NOT have Blind Spot monitoring (the dealers said the chip shortage). That to me was a big no-no for a younger driver. The RAV also has a great back-up camera and that Lane Keep Assist will beep if you move out of your lane. You can't beat the MPG on the Hybrid -- he is averaging 42 city. The car is peppy and quiet and doesn't even feel like a 4 cylinder. There are also a bunch of USB ports all over the car-- Honda is lacking with those. His opinion was that the RAV 4 was sportier looking -- the CRV gives mom vibes. The CRV is a great car, but I think Toyota wins this.
Good review. A difference that you didn't mention, a very important one, is reliability. The Toyota hybrids are reaching 300k miles, they are so reliable. In fact, when I bought my 2023 Rav4 hybrid, my dealer threw in a lifetime powertrain warranty. You won't find this level of reliability in a Honda.
Lifetime powertrain warranty ? Wow
lifetime powertrain warranty doesn't mean it's reliable. Dodge dealers used to offer those often. They have lots of restrictions, you have to get all your maintenance done at the dealer, they will rip you off on the maintenance which will more than make up any future repairs needed, if any...
my honda 2008 civic reachess 500k only changes battery and tyres change oil every 5kms
Yeah, I care a lot more about things like this than brake light styling. Hope to find a video that is more mechanical / reliability oriented.
I think you never knew/tried a Honda. Honda and Toyota are the most reliable ones.
worst thing about rav4 2023 is that you cannot buy it.
Thank you lol
I got hella lucky. I totaled my car 3 weeks ago and found and bought 2023 hybrid XSE with full option that just came in from Japan a week ago. Many dealers told me 8month to 1yr+ wait for XSE. Yes, I did pay markup but insurance paid me more so I'm good.
My order will take me 9 months in New Zealand 🇳🇿
Wow🗿🗿🗿🗿
Yeah I ordered the xse in calvary blue 4 months ago. My salesman said that it might be 6 more months!! I'm not in a hurry thankfully.
I am happy to say I got my Rav4. Compared to CRV, Rav4 is far more attractive to me. I got the limited trim, same color as the reviewed car here. I was gonna get the XSE, thank God I got a good deal with the limited one. So far I am loving this car, no complains yet.
LED taillights are standard on all RAV4’s from gas to hybrid to plug in hybrid. The only thing that’s incandescent are the reverse and turn signals which is the same setup with the CR-V
Yup, was about to mention this
That's what I thought also......... I guess some people can't tell the difference.
The reverse light on the CR-V is LED, not incandescent. Only the turn signal is incandescent.
Stumbled upon this channel, probably the best review on youtube. It's great for people who know little, and enjoy deeper dives. most of the other reviews talk about a lot of fluff that we don't need. This is perfect.
The CRV review, you hit the top 3 things that pissed me off in the first minute of the video. Excellent stuff.
Very glad I could help 🙏
I just bought a Rav4 XLE Hybrid for my son. It is a major upgrade from his old Ford Escape Hybrid in every way: More power, better tech, better styling, materials, engineering, build quality, etc. We looked at the Limited model too, but the XLE seemed to be a better value for the money.
How long did u wait for it. We are at 11 months now here in OZ
In Canada the same wait time 10-12 months 😮
In Consumer Reports they downgraded the Rav4 for having too much noise in the cabin. I test drove one and I didn't notice anything. But has your son mentioned that? Maybe they were just nitpicking.
@@pelicanhill3251i drive hybrid one, comparing it here (EU) to the nearest competitors like Ford Kuga (i think US Escape) Hybrid or CR-V it is definitely noisier but for me it's just enough. You can cruise at 140km/h and comfortably talk with passengers or listen to the radio.
I have a theory that people (but mostly car journalists) say it's noisy because when you are driving economically engine is mostly turned off or is on like 1,5k rpm so it's quiet but everyone when testing a car needs to do one full power pull and then the engine really kicks in and people start to complain about either noise canceling or CVT gearbox. But when driving normally you can barely hear the engine, I have mostly 60-70% ev driving %.
Will you adopt me? 😂
A couple of clarifications from this review… the 10.5” infotainment screen, and the 12” digital instrument cluster are only available in upper trim levels and then usually only as an option (at least on the 10.5” screen)
1:26 Mine also had a rattling in the trunk. On mine, it was because the license plate cover and the plate itself would vibrate against each other. I got a different cover and that fixed it.
Thanks for mentioning the small but very useful cubby holes around the dash. The small one for the driver and the large one for passengers, and the wireless charging pad. Things like that matter to me.
2019+ RAV4 tail lights are all LEDs. Brake lights are LEDs also. Rear turn signal and reverse bulbs are incandescent. There are no 5th generation RAV4 Platinum models in the U.S. currently.
Correct he gave wrong information in his review.🙄
Been going back and forth between the RAV4 and CR-V.. I think I’ve finally decided on the RAV4.. You just get so much more for the price than the CR-V… I do like the CR-V’s interior a little more, but damn. Such a hard decision.
RAV4 is a much nicer car.
I've been split between those as well 😆 I started considering the RAV4 Prime potentially, but it's such a big price jump for something I'll likely rarely use, or don't want to stress out finding where I'll charge it between places, even though it can just run as a normal hybrid, but then why not just stick with the hybrid and save 25%/10k on the price. Pushing the 40-50k price range starts to feel like you're starting to enter the some luxury-end vehicle price ranges. I want the RAV4 to feel like a luxury vehicle, but there's a few things I imagine keep it from that -- I've heard the road noise isn't great and the engine noise can be loud as well, and now hearing about the sub is a bit odd as well -- you pay for the high end speaker system but it sounds like they don't add any dampening 🤔
@@CTSSTC don’t forget the government does have a tax credit for electric so if that version is electric you should look up and see if there’s a credit for it cause that could end up saving you that extra 10k or so.
I just bought a RAV 4 for my son. It was really hard to decide between that and the CR-V. I love the CR-V, but they are often missing Blind Spot because of the chip shortage. I personally like the way the CR-V looks more than the RAV, but the RAV has better tech and better reliability. They are both excellent choices.
@@CTSSTC I'm in the same boat, currently driving a gas hog WRX STI. I spend $120 in gas a week so the monthly payment going up even a couple hundred bucks is worth it to me. Plus with the Prime there's a $7,500 tax credit when you buy new. I came from owning a Tesla and loved just being able to plug in, drive to work, and come back home for a $60 electric bill increase. Unfortunately with MN winters and distances across the state I cannot do that without adding a couple hours of time in-between. In my eyes the Prime is worth it if you're commuting to work and it's less then 40 miles a day. Plus the heads up display is well worth the money, $3,000 for distracted free driving right on the windshield. If you're going to buy new with the Rav4 get the Prime with the tax credit (Technically its $43,000 at that point). I say go for it if you're going to hold onto it. On average you'll see any Toyota with 200k-350k in miles and they hold their value better then most cars.
Driving 2022 XSE Hybrid - love it ! the only thing to remember during the winder MPG drop to 32-35MPG, during the summer 40-41mpg.
Funny all the defenders of Honda in CRV hybrid videos say that the CRV gets 28mpg due to cold why doesn't the rav4 drop as much? Because Toyota is better Honda isn't
@@sharkhark i have a rav4 hybrid as well, live in MA , getting 34 MPG
Hmmmm...... I've been driving for almost 50 years...... ALL cars get less mpg during the winter! It's a sad fact of life sunshine.
Good review. Where I live, RAV4 hitches are more for carrying a bike rack than towing.
9:29 next to the button to open the tail gate is a much smaller dot that locks the car. But I could just use the remote while the gate is closing to do the same.
Best part of the video is What you can’t get in the CRV. Keep it coming!!!!
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The rav4 and crv both have LED brake lights and both have incandescent turn signals
I was just about to make a comment about the very basic (and in some cases cheap plastics) when you made the final statement about it being basic and not sexy. That is most definitely true. Its neither warm nor inviting inside, but it is utilitarian in design.
yeah you kinda get the feeling toyota is going more "rugged offroad" and honda is more "premium urban" with their designs
Yes period it'd be good 20 years ago for me but now. Getting a little older... comfort has moved way up on my list.and crv seems much better
The only negative thing about my 2022 RAV4 XLE Hybrid is that after two + hours, the seats become less comfortable. The 40 city Mpg, and over 36 Mpg on limited access highway (with cruise control set at 78 mph), more than makes up for this.
I thought my friend's RAV4 Hybrid was a bit uncomfortable to be driving in for 2 days nearly halfway across the country, but thought that it was potentially due to being in the passenger seat and having the lowest package.
@@CTSSTC, I went from a 2011 Kia Sorento to this '22 RAV4. The Kia was more stable while turning, and more comfortable on long trips, but I would not trade back.
Lol...ah no. I want the comfort now... I'm thinking the CRV will way outdo the rav4 in this.
I still goes with this Rav4 even though CRV is competitive. My sister has Rav4 but its not Hybrid, how i wish i could have one of those which is really outstanding. Thanks cor sharing.
yeah, even the non hybrid gets respectable gas milage
Getting mine end of April in the unicorn color Cavalry Blue with loaded Tech Package. Trading in my 4-month old ‘23 CRV Sport Touring for a lot of the same reasons you pointed out. Main reason (which you didn’t mention here iirc) is that RAV4 Hybrids have a spare tire while the CRV Hybrids provide you with a fix a flat can that would mean you have to replace that tire you just plugged asap. For the same price point of a tech packaged XSE and Sport Touring, you get so much more in a RAV4z. Yes, the “luxuries” in a CRV is better but at that point, get an Acura or a Lexus 🤷🏽♂️
How much trade in value are you getting on the CRV? Assuming the Honda was $40,000-ish MSRP?
@@goranyordanoff3919 $36500. Got $10k out of a rundown ‘13 Pathfinder platinum that evened things out when I got it.
The spare is a donut, not a full size. I'm thinking of putting a full size in there instead. The space will hold it.
That's good news regarding the spare. I have a 2010 sport with run-flats, god what a crappy ride, and $400 each to replace them.
I'd still take the comfort/ space/sizein the c r v... Not to mention, the dash just looks so much better and an easier infoset up on screen.... But yes, no spare tire sucks and the back not Being flat when the seats are down, just really burn me.
My 2023 RAV4 Hybrid XLE is 2 days old. I went from a 2020 Jeep Cherokee Limited. I like that the RAV4 is bigger; I can fit 2 sets of golf clubs width wise in the back and not have to put the seats down. I like the storage cover. The gas mileage is WAY better. A few knocks. The front passenger seat is manual. No leather. I find the cabin storage lacking. The center console has one big storage bin instead of a large storage bin and then a smaller one on top like the Jeep. No coin holder (I know, nitpick). Not sure about the interface yet, might just have to get used to it after having the Jeep for 3 years.
I love that you point out the great features of the Toyota RAV4 but then make fun of what you believe is lacking or should have been done to improve it in your own quirky but funny way.
I got last night delivered my Rav4 RA Sport white with black roof. It's beauty ❤ looking forward to fully experienced that car💪💪
Even if there is a down side. Picking the brand who will most likely let my family go somewhere without letting us down is #1 by a landslide! That is truly all that I care about. Personally I've had amazing luck with Nissan. I've driven my 2 nissans around 700,000km combined and have only spent about $400 in all that time for a wheel hub. I changed my own brake pads, do my own oil changes... never an issue. however i like Lexus which I've owned and loved. and Toyota the most!
The rav4 is the class leader in compact suvs obviously naveenthemachine will post crazy comments
lololol gotta love Naveen😂
@@dwnshft i know people do post crazy comments but that nut job is crazy .😂. He also has a account named maga
They are led just not the type we are used to. It’s a led bulb in a reflector housing just like the base Camry and Corolla.
Picked up a 2023 hybrid XSE with full option in that exact same silver sky color minus running board a week ago and first thing I did notice was weird door handle positon, took a minute to figure out how to close the door. Smh. This is major issue for me and it is a design flaw. Still can't get used to it. I don't think average kids or seniors can close or control open in tight spot or windy weather without potentially ding other car. I watched ton of Rav4 reviews but you are the only reviewer mention this issue.
My two other cons are crappy JBL premium sound and backup pedestrian alert sound, which I deleted it already. Simply couldn't stand it and didn't want to inform every neighbor whenever I'm leaving. Keep it if you can't safely back up a small SUV.
Btw, CRV has more cargo space due to no spare tire, one of many reasons why I chose Rav4. For me, a spare tire is one of those things that I must have even if I don't use it.
Where do you see how uncomfortable it gets after 40k miles. Horrible seats and ride.
I've NEVER had a problem closing my door on my XSE hybrid....... I don't understand that complaint at all.
and I've had my XSE for 3 years now & just love it
@@henryhonda8408 Still don't understand why Rav4 is the only model with handle so far in front but I got used to it now. Love it as well.
I'm not happy with the door hinges either. Feels cheap. Sad to hear the JBL system isn't much better than the non-JBL. Definitely need to upgrade the sound system on mine!
Excellent, focused and informative review. The last segment of mildly unwelcome findings was excellent and helpful. I would keep those types of findings in all of your reviews.
I just put the rear seats back in my 2000 RAV4, after being out the 6 years I owned, while doing so I realized they reclined, pretty cool! I'm buying a 2021 Prime with 22 K miles in a couple of days, it will be my 5 th Toyota.
I have to admit I'm a Honda guy and a fan of the C-V but I love this Rav4. I'm guessing that the spare tire I carry everywhere in my Cr-V takes up about ... 2 cu. ft. (The motive battery is in the spare tire well) Now we're even, as for cargo space ;)
All my life I wanted a Rav4 Hybrid. This year I finally bought a brand new 2023 and I love the hybrid mileage, the ground clearance and the 4 wheel drive. I was so in love that I totally ignored all the drastic design flaws. The roof is two inches too low. I am 5'10" with a tall torso and I bang my head every time I get in and out and what's even worse is the serious visibility flaws. When I look 30 degrees to the right the rear view mirror is directly in front of my face. If I want to look 30 degrees to the right I have to duck my head down to see underneath the rear view mirror. The center console is three inches too wide on both sides. It digs into my right knee making it painful to my knee cap to keep my foot on the accelerator pedal. I’m thinking about gluing on some padding to ease this problem. My wife also complains about leg discomfort on her side. The side pillars are so wide that I absolutely cannot see oncoming cars at intersections of less than ninety degrees. I feel like this is going to kill me one day. The headrest is so stupidly designed that I sometimes feel like it is forcing my head down.
After four months of constantly banging my head, serious visibility problems, the most uncomfortable seating and the loudest road and wind noise of any car I have ever owned I am now sorry that I ever bought a RAV4 at all. Plus I heard of a new class action law suit because the moon roof drains are short circuiting the air bags which it claims Toyota knew about but failed to fix which the customer must now pay to fix and there is other talk about a power cable corrosion that may cost up to $6K to fix. After four months of living with this car I'm now sorry I ever bought a RAV4.
Crv is slightly bigger in dimensions, but in person it feels much bigger and more comfortable.
You got that right. It feels much much better.. And Im a huge toyota fan... I can't get over the difference.. And am favoring the CRV quite a bit more... Wish it had Toyota's drive train....
I just traded in a 2008 Camry Hybrid base model for the 2023 RAV4 Hybrid XLE and so far it feels like a downgrade. They are different types of vehicles, so it could just be my expectations are off, but the RAV4 doesn't feel like a very good value. It seems...cheap, inside and out and the seat cushions and fabric aren't comfortable, doors close and wobble weirdly, the motor sounds like a far away ambulance when slowing down (a little unnerving), the sound system is disappointing, and many more things I am not all that happy with. But, I'll give it some time. The gas mileage has been great (around 45) and it handles similarly to my Camry. I don't mind the road noise people mention; I feel pretty connected to the road. It's helpful having all that cargo space and the seats fold down nicely. Good turning radius.
I had Camry hybrid 2022, now thinking about RAF 4 but ur comment made me realize that it's true. I feel like it's downgrade to buy RAF 4
Overall I'm happy with my 2021 XSE RAV4 but I have a few comments or complaints after driving it for 2 years: 1) Leather seats only available in top trim level, 2) Panoramic sunroof not available in Canada, 3) TPMS not available in Canada, 4) Not all door buttons iluminate at night (hard to see & locate buttons when dark).
Leather seats are available in lower trims. I have a Hybrid SE and the dealer added leather seats for a little extra $$
But ALL Rav 4's in Canada have as standard equipment........... are you ready for this? Mud flaps!!!!!! They are an option in the USA.
Leather seats? Gross. I love that none of the US models come with stinky dead animal skins covering the seats. Even if you liked that smell, show me a car that is more than 10 years old with leather seats that look good. The best of them still look cracked or overly shiny in wear areas.
@@williamfrench9973it's softtex and synthetic. No more animals.
@@hh.c436 Yes I’m aware… Like I said - I love that none of the US models come with real leather.
informative and good detail. Helps narrow down what I'm looking for. Thanks for the presentation. The likelihood getting over 41 mpg comb. on all-wheel drive in an SUV hybrid is impressive!
I was driving the crv while waiting a long time for the Rav. Love both cars but Rav 4 boot is definitely smaller. Also I am short and have the seat nearer the steering wheel, I hit my head on the door post getting in
After watch both your reviews. I would have to agree with you and lean more towards the Rav4. Thanks for you insights.
Happy to help
Great review and appreciate the comparison to CRV. One thing not mentioned is that in Hybrid, the CRV is waaay more expensive. That seems counterintuitive... one main reason people get a hybrid is to save money on fuel costs, but then you have to spend 10 grand more for the CRV?!? Also enjoy the "odds and ends" ... one thing I would mention is the black trim around the wheels. Not sure why higher trims have them as painted metal - I much prefer the black plastic molding on most other trims and vehicles. I think that feature is more about utility (prevention of rust) then about looks.
How about price is the worst thing
I find you a bold faced liar.
C r v seems to be so much more comfortable.... Which older people will pay for?
Not sure what market you are in, but around Boston and New England the midgrade trim of both vehicles is right around the $35k mark.
Nice review. Which RAV4 hybrid trim do think is the best value? XLE, XLE Premium, Woodland? Any plans to review a Woodland?
thanks! I hope to get behind the wheel of a Woodland later this year, but it largely depends on availability. I would say the XLE Prem just because I would prefer the Softex seats
If and when you get a chance to review the woodland, can you please find out exactly what the “TRD tuned suspension” is? It’s still 8.1” of ground clearance, but does it have TRD coil springs, dampers/shocks, and bump stops? Is it noticeably stiffer than the regular hybrid? Thanks
@@dwnshft Its ridiculous to pay upwards of $34k for cloth seats. The XLE does not even get fog lights any longer.
I don’t care about taillights, I do care about simplicity and reliability that’s what Rav4 build for…
#1 - You can’t buy one
#2 - Road noise
#3 - Dated bland interior
#1 - Awesome fuel economy
#2 - Awesome quality/reliability
I just bought a 2020 Rav4 XLE Hybrid with 15,000 miles for $36,000. I have been driving it on the highway and it doesn't have any problem with wind noise. In fact the front windows are thick, acoustic glass to make it quiet inside. The interior is not Lexus-quality, but I'm OK with that. Everything works well, it's fun to drive, and it gets over 40 mpg. I highly recommend the Rav4 to anyone in the market for a great SUV.
@@zzanatos2001 Excellent! Thanks for the feedback Zach.
Anything you don’t like? Premium Model?
The door closing is odd. It does seem like cabin pressure makes it harder to close the last door. But not if another door is open or window is down. I can be aware and adjust as needed w few slams or second attempts. But my kids keep having to try 2x or something is open making it easy and they slam it. I’ve never experienced it on anything else in 45yrs.
I've had my Rav4 XSE hybrid for exactly 3 years now and I don't find closing the driver door a problem at all. I just shake my head every time I hear people complain about this non problem.
I remember i drove an Audi TT once (~2003) and was super impressed that when you opened the door the window would automatically go down about .5cm and then go back up once you closed the door. This was Audi’s answer to the tight cabin issue. Of course, I’m sure it would cost a lot to fix if it broke, but that’s German engineering for you.
Nice review! Honest and to the point which is most helpful. We are looking to trade our 2019 Rav for a 2023 Hybrid. Our 2019 brings 25K on trade at our local Toyota dealer. Thanks
What about the power cable issue under the car, is that problem solved? I heard it cost about 6000 Euro...
I wish all these car manufacturers would dump the 60/40 split in the second row seats, and make them all 40/20/40 like with the Audi Q8 and Porches. That middle fold down is incredibly useful, and allows 4 full seats, 2 front, 2 second row, when you have to put the middle part of the second row down, while whenever you have to put part of the second row down in a 60/40 split, you get 3 and a fraction adult seats. Dump the 60/40 guys, and go the 40/20/40.
My Mazda CX5 has the 40-20-40 split and I love it. So useful.
Good point. I'd like that myself
The hybrid Rav4 is a wonderful car. The doors, wheel wells and undercarriage need more insulation. The hybrid backup sound is weird and annoying - I wish someone would offer a different noise maker. Other than that, it is easy to drive, has good visibility and the gas mileage is great. The non-hybrid is slow.
Teslas sound very similar backing up. I think it is most hybrid and electric vehicles
That back up sound is awesome
Ordered my limited in April 2022 and it was delivered in Marck 2023
Incandescent taillights are the best. A fraction of the cost to replace bulbs than replace an LED. I prefer all lights to be NON LED.
I appreciate all the small details you included in this review, very informative.
Thanks for your review, the RAV4 is on my list. For negatives, how about how noisy RAV4 can be at times? I guess that's par for the course at this price point though. How loud is it on the freeway at cruising speed (not passing), maybe around 70 mph? Is the CRV quieter? Also, I'm sad that Toyota couldn't give this refresh TSS 3.0. Do you know why? Is it missing some sensors by chance? What can TSS 3.0 do that TSS 2.5 (+?) can not do? Finally - can any part of the 2023 RAV4 be updated over the air? What about CRV?
He mentioned in the video that over-the-air updates are available for RAV4.
Oops, I guess I nodded off for a few moments, my bad! Glad to hear that it supports OTA updates. @@williamfrench9973
Is the engine noise always like this? I feel when I start the car and give two minutes while driving it I hear this engine noise when I step on the gas and it struggles, specially up the hill . I feel like I need to put on sport mode
Saw my 1st XSE hybrid just the other day it was white. On closer inspection noted all the polished black plastic trims around the wheel wells and lower body. Interesting look, but couldnt help but wonder how durable that will be against scratching and scuffing over time? Seems to me the typical textured matte plastic is tried and true, so it looks like a risky styling move to me?
Scratch like motha….
Does the panoramic sunroof also open?
I get mine in May. I can’t wait. I ordered in May last year 😂
43 hybrid combine is ok, my rav4 le fwd drive no passenger, I did 42 mpg with 87 octane 1400 rpm on highway and no head wind.
Great review. I’m in the market for a compact SUV and one of these makes a lot of sense for a number of reasons. While I am what I would consider an enthusiast my wife is not. She wants something that she can just jump in and go. She isn’t going to be extra careful with her vehicle and that is why I wouldn’t consider one of the more luxurious options yet she deserves something nice so I think this fits the bill nicely. While this isn’t exciting to some, we are coming from an older commuter so I think we would love and be impressed with one of these. Lastly we also pull a personal watercraft and I think the capability with the RAV4 is just enough. My only issue is how popular these are and it kills me to have to pay over MSRP. Hopefully we will see that change soon
Amazing review, video executed beautifully and the host has such a calming voice. Maybe this will be my next purchase! Thank you.
Some negatives about the Limited (trims that have the larger infotainment):
- The infotainment system itself is just... bad. A screen that size should be able to do split display of functions. It doesn't. Why would anyone want to see the entire screen filled with Energy Flow??? We should be able to see Nav, Music track, Energy flow, and messages split like you get on the lower trims. Plus, if you have Android Auto connected, it makes navigating through menus a NIGHTMARE! Many people are complaining about this. Not to mention the AA auto connection is very iffy.
- Pretty much no light in the tail gate. Just one tiny side light that isn't functional at all. It takes someone putting in aftermarket light sets to make anything visible.
- JBL sound system. It's not just bad. It's atrocious!! They put in these really small and cheap dash speakers that make anything that's not a podcast sound flat and overly loud without any lows. Those speakers must be replaced IMMEDIATELY with low sensitivity speakers so that lows pass through to other speakers and the sound is 90% better. Even just taking out those dash speakers alone and leaving nothing there is a vast improvement!!!
- No bucket seat on earth is good for the human body. This Gen of RAV4 is no different. It's a must for any grown adult to find a seat wedge that works to get your legs and torso as close to 90 degrees or wider or else you'll develop sciatica if you already haven't. And if you have it, it will be so much worse.
- The button row where the heated steering wheel/odometer/view functions are... they can't be seen unless you take your eyes off the road and lean down to look. Not safe, but I put some sticker bumps on 3 of them so I can find them by touch.
- Lastly, and this is reeeeally just stupid. Why on earth don't the RAV4's have pockets on the back of the driver's seat?!?!
You said that the roof racks can be adjusted to a preferred position but that's not true. You can take them off or leave them on but only in their set positions. That's neither a plus nor minus but I took mine off because I didn't like the moon roof overhead being blocked.
I'm not thrilled by the cargo space but it's okay. I have NO clue why they don't have latches so you can place the cargo net upright near the tailgate!
I like the way the back lights look. The ones on the CR-V are overkill IMO. Another plus the higher trims of RAV4 have over the highest trim of CR-V is that you can touch open and touch lock all four doors no the former, but not the latter. Another difference is that many of us still like to mount a phone (but not on the dam windshield) since AA/ACP don't do everything. In the RAV4, you can vent mount (if you find the right one). There's nowhere to mount anything on the CR-V thanks to that unappealing honeycomb grid for vents.
You left out one of the best features: The memory seat! I love it. I use the 2nd button when I get out of the car so I won't ever bump the steering wheel when I get out or in. Once in, I tap 1 and it takes me right to driving position. HOWEVER, there is one minor fault! If you turn off the car power after you park, the memory seat buttons won't work until you either open the door or tap the power button. That's a little annoying.
MPG on the RAV4 is MUCH MUCH better than the CR-V Touring. Even though the CR-V Touring costs less, it's bang for the bug is much less.
All trims are uncomfortable
To fix one of your complaints. Android auto is garbage. Get an iPhone and use their far superior Apple car play.
@@pagodad8079 😂😂😂
The remote start using the key fob for the 2022 is awful, I hope it's improved on 2023 but I doubt it.
Improved as in having a dedicated button for it? Unfortunately, there isn’t on the 2023
@@kxrnah8472 No dedicated button but it does work fine via the lock/lock/hold-lock on the fob. Not to mention it's easy to do it through the Toyota Connect phone app.
It's a minor thing that the engine will turn off once you open the door but I know why they do that and I'm okay with it.
I picked up my RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser today (after a 2-year wait). With my limited time with this car, I agree with everything said in this video. However, I live in Australia, so I doubt if Septics will need to wait as long as I did for the delivery of this car.
I couldn't wait. I bought the CRV.
The 2023 BMW X1 is about the same size, better seats, quicker, nimbler, roomy, better driver aids, quieter, and quicker delivery. And no dealer mark up, which means cost is comparable to RAV 4 even with options to make it the same. But half the gas mileage!
The lock on the tailgate is a button to the right of the one that will open it on the exterior of the tailgate.
Toyota, please on your next redesign install a hitch on the Rav 4!!!. Is an SUV be so people can mount bike racks and maybe haul a jet ski!
You didn't mention that the Rav4 Hybrid has an actual spare tire . The CRV Hybrid does not.
Really enjoyed the video + the extra little things which are important!
This is the first video I've seen of yours, and I subscribed.
I like the storm trooper look. Hopefully they make it look better for 2024
That is a great comparison about the look. I am a fan of Star Wars but that is not the look I want for my automobile design.
Wife totaled her 22 ravxse, test drove the new crv for some reason felt a little cheaper quality.
Have been waiting 16 months so far for my XSE, Perth Australia
I was looking at the '23 Rav4 Hybrids to replace my aging CRV, but curious if you know why Toyota went with AWD on all trim levels? Living in Phx AZ, we mainly stay on pavement and rarely see ice or snow, AWD isn't a necessity or desire. Will Toyota offer a Rav4 hybrid in FWD? Thx
If none of your tires slips then you’ll be FWD but if one of them is not getting a good grip then it will automatically change to AWD. That’s what Toyota calls AWD in demand.
AWD might help you when you drive on a sandy beach some day..... you never know. I was watching a PGA tournament a few years back & it was delayed a few hours in the morning because of a morning snow fall........ it was near Phoenix in February I believe.
Mark ups at the local dealer are gone but still you have to take what they have coming in which are full of expensive packages for luxury and useless trims.
I just received my 2023 Rav4 Hybrid Woodlands Edition in Calvary Blue. After two weeks of use, I'm 50/50 on my purchase, even thinking about trading it in for something else. I was torn between a Kia Portage Hybrid and the Rav4 Hybrid, both tough to get. You have to reserve incoming vehicles to get a chance at any of these cars. The Rav4 became available first so I went with it. I traded-in a 2020 Subaru Crosstrek for the Rav4, which was a great car with the exception of gas mileage. Needed to get a little bigger car due to back surgery and wanted to take advantage of the hybrid technology and high trade-in value for my Subaru. I research purchases to death and relied a lot on reviews like this one, as well as Consumer Report reviews. I didn't get a chance to conduct much of a Rav4 test drive as these are non-existence on dealer lots in my area. The two main negatives for me are the ride and noise, which were identified as cons on many reviews; I just didn't think it would be as bad as it is. The ride to me is a 2 out of 5, and I'm being generous. You feel EVERY bump in the road and the response is super stiff and somewhat jarring. Plus, the bump reaction noise is what is loud, not so much wind noise that is noted in some reviews. The Kia Sportage is a much better ride. The initial gas mileage average is around 35-37. I would expect you would get at or near the listed 38 MPG on an extended highway trip. So the estimated EPA mileage is fairly accurate. The speakers are literally garbage and I have replaced them with moderately upgraded speakers, which are much better. I don't know why vehicles cost so much, because they are all junk plastic parts that snap together. I found that out changing the speakers. If you have the money, without question, opt for the Highlander. The ride difference is night and day, but you're looking at perhaps a $ 10K additional cost. If you don't have the extra cash and ride/comfort is your primary feature, you are way better off with the Kia Sportage or Honda CR-V.
I don’t have those issues with my 22’ SE. only had to replace speakers but then that that solved my issues. Ride is soft and I’ve had an Ls400. MPGs my wife drives a lot normally and she gets 40 average and I’ve done about same driving like a grandma. Build quality to my is impressive with no noises, I’ve only spotted one spot where the gap didn’t align perfectly but that was by the corner of the door so I cant really see it normally. Also worth mentioning mine is made in the US so maybe the ones here are 50/50. End of the day, for 40ish thousand dollars, theres great competition with better interiors but I like my utilitarian car that gets great mileage and is quick when needed. We plan on keeping it long term.
Get a Tucson HEV, looks better than the Kia and has the same ride.
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very good video i will sub you :) also you should probably add how tall you are when you talk about leg room in the back seat to give a better representation.
I think the drivers leg room is poor on the Rav4. The window controls and the center consol both push your knees together. If your tall(or big) it’s not comfortable.
The dashboard is very low and close to my knee caps and the center console makes the width extremely narrow. No room to move legs around.
I'm ok with my leg room as the driver, but my passenger, who's 5' 7", had her knees against the glove compartment with the seat moved back as far as it can go. That's a bummer for all tall passengers.
So which is better, RAV4 or CRV 2023 (Hybrid or gas)?
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The only problem I’ve been told almost a YEAR wait for HYBRID XSE setting for gas lease then hoping things get normal in 2 years & trade in for Hopefully TOTALLY Redesigned” AVAILABLE “2025 HYBRID XSE Great review THX
You didn't mention that the CR-V forward collision system will try to kill you when driving. Mine will not see a stopped car at an intersection and will accelerate right into the back of them. I hate it.
Whoah, what?
I Goggled "2023 toyota rav4 hybrid towing capacity" it says towing capacity is 1750 lbs. But it also states it can handle 3500 lbs? So I'm wondering if the rav4 hybrid can handle up to 3500 lbs would you know?
"Its not going to set your heart on fire, but when has a rav4 ever done that??" My brother in christ, how clearly you've the 2010 Rav4 V6 with 269hp
Paolo’s wife has one and it is pretty sweet tbh
Am I dumb? Which trim has the head up display? One reason I wanted the Prime was for that. But... I don't think I can justify the price. And I can't do home charging till 2026.
How does the suspension do off road? Do the back seats fold flat for sleeping?
You can fold the back seats down and there's a slight incline, but it would work for sleeping with your head a little higher! And it's flush.
I don’t get the mode animations on my rav4 XSE hybrid in Canada
Wished you would have spoke about the cvt
Purchased a 2024 RAV4, but been second guessing not checking out the Mazda CX5 first.
is your rav4 a hybrid?
There's a big difference between changing a bulb... to changing a led unit
How are the front seats in terms of comfort? Would they be relatively comfortable on long road trips? Great video by the way!
Yeah the front seats were perfectly fine. There are more comfy seats out there but they’re in much more expensive cars
@@dwnshft How is the comfort of the drivers seat in the RAV4 vs the CRV? Which one would be better on my butt in a longer road trip? Thanks - great video!
@@PaulMahoney-j1gI think c r v's better now... For once. Toyota's have always had more complete seats. That's why I'm a Toyota fan river doesn't seem so in these now
I'm not a huge fan of these seats. The bottom cushion is noticeably thinner/lumpier than other cars I've driven and owned, so I'm going to buy an extra cushion. I also like road trips and want to make sure I'm comfortable!
The worst thing about the Car is the Carplay head unit. It’s great for phone sound, but the interface between using the traditional radio is a nightmare. It requires using the paddle wheel on the steering wheel and the center of the drivers display console. That’s the only way I have found to get to the radio. Even though it says radio on the CarPlay that is either IHeart, or Sirius XM. If you have it you could be using Tune In. There are only two apps for weather and one has a weather map but charges you for it. (Hello AccuWeather and Weather Channel). The door entry is smaller than a Subaru Forester and big people have to fold their neck to get in. I get 38-42 mpg in ECO mode. The daytime running lights are awesome. It’s almost like you have low, med, and high beams. The key should just be a push button. I own the 2023 RAV4 Hybrid LE.
I just bought the SE in black. Overall like the look but the back bumper is odd. They all have the gray color bumper. Bit of an eyesore. But just being picky. I may get it wrapped to match the black paint.
wrap it up!
No mention of the sunroof opening
Who really cares whether their tail lights are LED or not? As long as they're visible to other road users, I'm good.
Can I get XSE with tech package with "panoramic" moonroof in Canada ? I heard that there are some restrictions ? Any thoughts ?
4th worst thing is its even more expensive to buy which cost arm and leg specially XSE EDITION.
Is the spare tire is a normal tire?
Went to see this today. Stepping into it from my XC60, it felt cheap. Shame cause I really wanted to like it as they have a great reputation for reliability.
True, but XC60 is also more expensive and generally a Premium car.
@@szymonp874 prices are not that far apart!
@@Dmaelstromnot that far apart? Over 20 thousand in Canada between. You don't think 20k is quite the gap? Jesus
@@sharkhark I’m in Europe. Toyota RAV4 hybrid style AWD: 50,000 euros. Volvo XC60 mild hybrid AWD 48,900. So the Volvo is actually cheaper, but it is a mild hybrid, not a proper one. Still that price is with a diesel engine, will be cheaper with petrol! The Volvo recharge model is more expensive at around 60k, but it’s a plug-in which will do up to 70kms on battery alone.
the interior is very dated now compared to other competitors. Toyotas notoriously have a tin can sound to them when you close a door too .
Does it come with a spare tire? If it doesn't, is there a space to put one? I drive about 100 miles roundtrip to work, and would not get a car/suv without a spare. Currently I drive a 2017 Accord Hybrid, which did not come with a spare, I took the Styrofoam insert and put in a spare to the surface is flat.
Spare is under the trunk floor
Did you notice a difference in the brake feel between the 2 cars? The Rav4 transitions in a weird way from regen braking to normal brake pads. And you feel it every single time the car comes to a stop.
I have a RAV4 Prime and I know exactly what you’re talking about, but I got used to it
I think all Toyota Hybrids do this. It took me some getting used to with my first one from 2008. the RAV4 does it too. The hydraulics engage very late and hard, then there's a sort of moment where you feel like it releases and you coast forward slightly. It was pretty disconcerting at first.
I HATE sunroofs! CCC Austin,TX
I believe with the Prime version you can drive EV mode as it should be; can anyone confirm that?
Yes…about 47 mile range, and as fast as 85 mph. But if driving that fast greatly reduces range