Is This The One To Beat? | 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime
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- 302 horsepower, 39 miles per gallon, enough EV range to make you feel green and Toyota reliability all in one package. What's not to love with the new RAV4 Prime? Getting your hands on one at the moment. This is probably the best new car in the USA that you can't buy today because supplies will be limited likely through the end of 2021...
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94 eMPG. 5.7 seconds 0-60. AWD. 600 mile range. 8.3inch ground clearance. And it cooks bacon! No compromises. This is a game changer. Great review!
I own this exact car but in gray.... The reserve gas tank is 150 miles after E and Zero range. When you fill it up it says 440 gas mile and 42 EV. The other 150 miles on gas is in the reserve after the range says zero and the needle is buried on E so the 600 mile range is definitely there.
@@bitkahuna you have bad taste
Braking, 70-0 mph: 195 ft as tested by C&D www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a33028735/2021-toyota-rav4-prime-xse-by-the-numbers/
@@bitkahuna It's practical, reliable and efficient.
@@limpunsing224 probably due to its tires, hybrid low rolling resistance low noise tires just dont have the best grip. when i get one ill be beating the shit out of the stock tires so i have an excuse to replace them sooner lol.
RAV4 Prime only exists on TH-cam.
And in my Garage
I've seen one IRL, sold for $60k
@@hadesomegamoto7639 my RAV4 Prime XSE Premium cost 58k out the door with taxes, fees and 120k extended warranty all included in that price. I got hit with $3500 over MSRP but it was because I got one of the first XSE Premiums in the country back in August. This is the most rare supplied out of all the Primes.
@@internetabyss Nice yeah they're marking them up quite a bit, I'm going to wait till next year to purchase, also interested in the new Outlander PHEV it's close to the RAV4 Prime.
@@hadesomegamoto7639 I looked into that car too, but it wasnt even close . My choice was between the Model y and the Prime. The offroad capability, tech, and hybrid range made my decision up.
The way Alex explain things is superb 👍🏻! I wish you’re my calculus teacher!
Thank you for putting cabin noise ratings into each of your videos! Really helpful.
As an owner of a Prius Prime, PHEV's make so much more sense than full EV's. I drive over 90% in EV as I use it mainly as a commuter. The other 10% is for longer trips where charging isn't an option. Seriously considering a RAV4 Prime when the lease on my Prius is up.
Added complexity with PHEV but for anyone who lives/drives fair bit outside a city an all electric isn't reasonable at this time, nor will be for many years. If anything hydrogen may be more reasonable alternative to electric in some areas.
@@James-il3tq hydrogen is worse as there are no stations Anywhere
@@sahajpatel1553 Yes, but H2 is the future. I'll probably never get to drive one but my kids will
@@kevinricks2165 I believe battery electric
@@kevinricks2165 i would want to put my kids in one... an accident could cause a big explosion
Excellent report. Best automotive report I have seen. Clear precise & answers all the questions.
Mr. Alex, you have by far the best auto reviews on youtube! Absolutely amazing.
Fantastic review! How exciting! Thank you, Alex!
I literally just purchased this car today, the XSE version, fully loaded... Super freaking amazing!~ and I don't miss my Tesla one bit!
Any thoughts after a year plus of ownership?? Thanks
It's a great car, don't get me wrong. The only issue its it 4 cylinder engine that actually needs to be a minimum of 6 cylinders. Once your battery is fully charged you'll get approx. 300+ HP but once that battery depletes itself and it depletes FAST then the RAV4 becomes a turtle! It has a 2.5 liter 4 Cylinder and it's ok at best, but it's not a small SUV. Test drive it and check it out, you may like it. I am going to sell mine pretty soon but it was ok while it lasted~!
@@billlyl3725
Best review on the Rav4 Prime. Thank you, this was a huge help.
Picked up my RAV4 Prime last week and already have 1,500 miles on it. LOVE IT! Coming from a Tesla Model 3 and Y, driving this long distance is a lot less stressful. There is plenty of HP and the room and ride is great! My only gripes so far…lane keep assist does tend to hug the right line, which I don’t prefer. Also, the app absolutely blows, hands down. No way to track your charging at all. Doesn’t even tell you if it’s fully charged which is very disappointing. I got the SE and I love the cloth seats. Driving 500 miles starting with a full charge, I wound up with a total MPG of 44, which was awesome. I drove it in EV mode on local roads, then auto while on the highway and the drive mode set to Eco the whole time. I found there was plenty of power at all times. The biggest difference I found with the driving modes was in traffic use ACC. Eco is much slower to accelerate and keep up compared to Normal and Sport Mode.
When purchasing this vehicle did you consider the 6.6kw onboard charger? I'm still researching if it's worth it for such a small range of 40 miles. Thank you for any input
Love your review. Professional , concise and ultra informative. What a difference a year makes. Not only are there no rav4 primes available but if you could find one it would be $10,000 ++ over sticker and currently the $7500 tax credit doesn’t apply because the battery is not manufactured the USA. Actually there are not many cars available currently so one may have to settle for what ever is around if you are pressed to find a car. Would like to see some more of your videos if they are out there as they are some of the best.
Alex, such a good review. Keep up the good work!
I just love how your intro evolved. It's like advanced 80's sci-fi... like going to the future in an alternate universe. Mind blowing!
It gives me the idea that it resembles an 80s TV show intro tune. I don't think that's a bad thing. That's just what I think of when I hear it.
You Are The BEST Auto Reviewer .
Savageese will have a say so. :)
Nah, they’re both great just different formats.
Seen tens of reviews before this one, all my questions answered ... at last. Pretty nice filming too. Very good review. Thanks, so helpful.
It’s a shame that this is so limited. It’d be the best selling car by far. It’s fast, probably reliable, practical, and decently priced.
Great review. I just bought a Rav4 Prime and love it.
Alex is so good at reviews, don’t care if Dodge is on his mind.
Haha :-)
This is the video that introduced me to and convinced me to buy a Rav 4 Prime SE, which I’ve had since Spring 2021. That said, the gas engine WILL turn on in a multitude of situations, even when the vehicle is “locked” in EV mode. Probably the instance that makes the least sense to me is when driving with the adaptive radar cruise control activated; when the vehicle senses the need to apply a medium or greater brake application to slow down, the engine will kick on and burn fuel, despite the car being completely able to regenerate into a partially depleted battery pack vs having to dump excess power into rotating the engine.
Another minor gripe I have with the way regen is handled in this vehicle is that the traction computer is MUCH more willing to derate the amount of regen brake when making higher G turns while braking than the 2012 Prius I was previously driving. The transition is pretty abrupt, and you can notice the immediate decrease in deceleration as the regen cuts out and is replaced by the friction brakes. Not sure what the logic behind this behavior is.
That being said, I’ve been pretty satisfied with the range I’ve been getting out of the vehicle based on my driving style. In city driving, ambient climate, I can get between 48-50 miles of electric range, and in moderate highway driving, 40 miles of electric range. I tend to drive a little more aggressively when the gas engine is on anyway, so my gas mileage per tank is not quite as high as the EPA estimate, but I drive relatively infrequently on gas that it’s not a big issue for me. If I really wanted to hypermile the car in hybrid mode, I’d have no problem doing that.
When purchasing this vehicle did you consider the 6.6kw onboard charger? I'm still researching if it's worth it for such a small range of 40 miles. Thank you for any input
I've seen two of these in LA in the past couple months. Rare for sure as I see normal RAV-4s 10 times a day. Rav-4 already looks great, these look spectacular especially with those wheels.
What color were they?
The Rav4 Prime is simply the best compact suv
The dealer in my area had one but they were "adding" an extra 10k to the price. I told him to find some other sucker. I will go get a Model Y.
Excellent review. Clearly, the RAV4 Prime is the best of both worlds.
Excellent video with useful insights and information. Thanks for another great video.
By far the BEST SUV I ever owned...and no range anxiety! Uses 5.5l/100km here in Canada
It’s too bad so many were bought on speculation and are sitting for sale used and “used” for a massive premium over MSRP. Toyota dealerships indicate anywhere from 2-5 years wait time on orders…
I was actually able to see one at a dealership in San Jose and it had been sold that day. It sold for $60,000! It had $10k in options and $10k dealer markup. I'll wait a while...
60k ? That's crazy. You can get MODEL Y for that kinda money.
@@peterp4753 Yeah it is
Ooops hart to swallow , expensive , if its coming to price gauging I don't buy the Prime even so I love every thing about it
@@peterp4753 audi q4 etron is a nice one too
Yikes! I am getting a RAV4, but not the Prime. Luckily, there’s no mark up where I am going to buy it in S. California. I had to order my RAV4 and it’s taken 3 months to arrive to the dealership.
I’ve got 7500 miles on my RAV4 Prime. The MPG displayed does exactly what you describe in the Volt. My prime often shows the max “99.9mpg” when the HV engine kicks on.
When purchasing this vehicle did you consider the 6.6kw onboard charger? I'm still researching if it's worth it for such a small range of 40 miles. Thank you for any input
Excellent review. Thank you!
Great review Alex, thanks.
I really wish I hadn't just bought a new Subaru. I definitely see one of these in my future, it's a fantastic total package daily driver.
Crazy that this is the 2nd fastest Toyota for sale, but then again, Toyota doesn't try to make fast cars. Definitely seems like a great vehicle all around!
Thanks Alex for the great RAV4 P reviews. waited 7 months and picked myself up a XSE Premium. getting 48 miles on electric, 46 w/ AC, higher than the 42 amazingly! No complaints whatsoever so far. It's not a sports car but definitely feels premium. Passengers love the power, heating/cooling seats in front, heating in rear and the 360 camera helpful when parking! Did three things to the car so far, 1)blackened overlays and swapped out the rear exhaust w/ smoked TRD exhausts, 2) swapped interior door switches to lighted ones, and 3) LED lights all around including the mirror puddles! As for charging, got sick of slow charging and went for a ChargePoint home flex to utilize the full 6.6! Thank you again Alex!
AA++ For the professional video.
I have a Corolla Cross HV and I absolutely love it, now after watching this video, the prime is my new love, and my next target in a few years I hope. Thanks
I really hope this catches on. A super high performance SUV, great gas mileage, and it's actually somewhat affordable.
falling in love with this car the more I read about it.
Another excellent review, thank you
Many thanks for great informative review👍 Just quick question do you have any info about European market release/sales plans?
Great review Alex!
Hey Alex, great review as usual. Toyota should send you a $100,000 check for promoting its vehicles. You are the best.
Great review, thanks!
Great review. Love the color. I don't know how you got your hands on the pano roof - I feel like I'll find Bigfoot before I find a Prime XSE w/ pano roof available for reserve!
Excellent Review of a unique vehicle, Alex! 👍🏾
Definitely my next car... Fully loaded version!!! I'm happy you made comments on how the RAV4 PRIME compares to the engines of the plug in versions of BMW, Mercedes, Lincoln, Mazda, Volvo, Chevy Volt, Mitsubishi, Kia, Hyundai and Pacifica.
Great review.
So funfact: I also found a way to treat my ‘09 Prius as a minor generator to power appliances in my home (recent hurricane power outages, as this is somewhat common where I live). I don’t see any different, for the new RAV4.
A larger battery pack means more cells in parallel, which means more amperage is available to go out, but also go in. Which means you get more out of brake regeneration, making it more efficient.
I love your reviews. VERY informative and you don't try to make dumb jokes or use the same shtick like some other reviewers.
Looks nice, though not sure how it'll hold out over time, or how resistant it'll be to scratches, but I don't get the piano black on the lower half. Still, I would love to have one. Excellent review and thanks for posting.
I mean it’s a Toyota it’s gonna last. As for scratches I’m sure if you’re careful with it it shouldn’t be the end of the world
I just upgraded my 2018 Prius Prime to a RAV4 Prime. Love, love, love. I knew after a few hundred miles in the Prius that the RAV is what I wanted , even though it wasn't available yet. In an area with a couple hundred inches of snow, the RAV only makes sense. The Prius was 100% geared toward fuel efficiency, and it delivered. What's next for the Toyota Prime lineup? I say follow the lead of the RAV by sacrificing a little efficiency and make a Prime equivalent of a Mazda Miata. A nice little convertible with some extra oomph and performance when you want it, and a great little EV hybrid the rest of the time.
When purchasing this vehicle did you consider the 6.6kw onboard charger? I'm still researching if it's worth it for such a small range of 40 miles. Thank you for any input
Alex, thank you for telling MEANINGFUL truths. Toyota is the automaker I have the greatest admiration for. That being said, I believe they are limiting production their own desires, namely to maintain value. The Rav4 is sold in the UK as a rebadged Suzuki, seemingly only. because of Toyota's shameful previous ad campaign against plug in vehicles.
Wow you said all the detail i need to know
Regarding the MPG display discussion around 7:00, the *Prius* Prime most prominently displays that wacky “electricity is free” number, but yes, it also shows you the much more reasonable MPG while in hybrid mode and separate MPKWh in EV mode. You have to did a little deeper to find those two numbers, though.
Incredibly high quality content
Averaging 80+ MPG most tanks so far!
At least based upon experience with our Prius Prime, I don’t often use Charge Mode. It’s almost always more efficient to just run it as a hybrid, than to burn gas to charge the battery and then later drive it out in EV mode.
However, there are two scenarios when I do use charge mode:
1. When it first fires up the engine, it runs a warm-up cycle, and in the warm-up cycle it sometimes just wastes that gas solely to warm up the engine, whereas it should at least use it to charge up the battery. So, I do use it for that purpose, but only for ~3 minutes, then switch to normal hybrid mode.
2. Occasionally after road trip, necessarily in hybrid mode, I end up with too much gas in the tank! If so, I’ll often turn on just burn it down to 2-3 gallons or so. Since in day-to-day driving around town, I only use about a gallon per month, I never fill up with more than 2-3 gallons, lest it sit around forever fermenting in the gas tank!
Even at $38k it's a decent buy with 40 mile EV range. For me that would easily cover 80% of my driving and the rest of it would be at 40mpg or better. Looks pretty good in that red as well.
What a game changer this vehicle is! Wow is all I can say!
Thank you
I own a 2021 Rav4 Prime XSE Premium with 6000 miles on it.... Love It!!!
How mych did you pay
@@alexf9183 MSRP plus $2,500
I hate you.
I just bought one too and they gave me a $1500 discount 😜
@@DUNGSTA where and how? The dealers in my area are worse than drug dealers.
Got one in Silver/black. Wish I got the supersonic red. The battery often gives me a 51-53 mile range when fully charged. Got the roof racks, which makes some noise when windy.
Awesome review as usual, but a couple errors on the Volt efficiency readouts. My gen2 volt offers MPG and MPGe (combined). MPG is like what you described (electricity is considered "free"), but it maxes out at 250 mpg. MPGe converts kWh into gal at 1 gal = 33 kWh and combines the electric and gas efficiency numbers into one value. It's still a terrible system, but doesn't count the electricity as "free".
Thanks Alex
I enjoy your reviews
I knew the EV 0-60 was faster than stated.
We love our Rav 4 Prime SE $41,000 -$7,500 Federal Credit = $33,500 (No brainer)
We own both the 2019 Rav 4 Hybrid XLE and 2021 Rav 4 Prime and hands down the Prime is my favorite.
I noticed the transition from gasoline to EV seems to be smoother in the Prime vs our Rav 4 hybrid.
Please comment on seat comfort, cloth vs softex.
Hoping to eventually get one up here in Canada
Great review as always.
But since the old Chevy Spark EV had a battery pack with a good enough TMS to offer a low priced CCS DC fast charging option. That had about the same capacity as in RAV4 Prime, so ofc Toyota could have offered the same option. For ppl that use it though out day and want stay in EV mode.
I am in line to get this next. Hope they come out with Sienna Prime soon.
I'm on a dealer's waitlist for a RAV4 Prime in 2021, but I may end up with a VW ID.4 instead. The ID.4 cost is not much different than the RAV4 Prime after federal and state incentives (depending on trim level), and I'm not as worried about range anxiety as I used to be.
Can't wait for the Dodge Rav4 Durango review.
First off... awesome review! You know your stuff and you disseminate a truckload of information in few minutes. Excellent. You compared this Toyota RAV4 plug-in to the "competition" so many times... I guess that is appropriate. But to be honest Toyota is in a class of their own on forward technology like this. They are in class of their own on almost all vehicles to be honest. If any consumer is comparing stats and bumping that against price... and they decide The Toyota is no the value, well all I have to say is okay you do not get it.
6:12 this changed with the 2nd generation and it started using MPGe on its efficency display as the default give them a break they were the 1st to make a mass market PHEV and yet 10 years later there is no set way that everyone agrees on they just used what they knew.
Sold, I want one........Excellent review.
Any idea on the timeline for when we’ll start seeing the numbers increase for next year? Clearly, COVID will play a part...Also, have you done testing without the roof rails on it? I’ve read some studies in CR and other places that show roof rails have a moderate effect on the efficiency of vehicles.
As a (2nd gen) Volt owner, can I clarify something on the MPG issue? Yes, it is absolutely true that the default energy screen gives you a straight MPG read out that treats the electricity as free. However, there is also a MPGe read out. If you tap on the left side where the large MPG number is, it will switch to MPGe. On the right side, you get both: MPGe for electric mode, and MPG for hybrid. The left side shows MPGe in large print that calculates an average of your electric MPGe and the hybrid MPG for a combined MPGe. This number resets everytime you fully charge the volt (note that the right side will also reset when you fully charge the vehicle). There is also a lifetime MPGe that is in small print below the larger number.
These numbers switch everytime you tap there. For example: my lifetime average (treated as if electricity is free) is around 160 MPG. However, if you tap to switch to MPGe, then my lifetime average switches and shows 80.2 MPGe. I actually leave it here all the time and don’t use the MPG only screen.
As I said above, I’m a 2nd gen Volt owner so I don’t know if this is different than the 1st gen Volt, but there is an option to show MPGe that does NOT treat electricity as free.
Great video Will you update to 2024?
Hey Alex, you said you have the hybrid. I'm looking at either the hybrid rav4 or prime. So if you had choice to keep yours or trade for prime, which would it be?
Alex, would you recommend this or a certified pre-owned 2017/18 Porsche Cayenne E-Hybrid? Pricing is similar.
The RAV4 Prime seems to have some type of program to determine how much range you have based on your driving style. When I drive on the freeway or drive stepping on the brakes and gas all the time, I get 41 mile range on a full charge. When I drive 25 mph and gently stop and accelerate (not super slow to be annoying), I get 45 mile range.
It simply takes a rolling average of your miles per kilowatt hour and uses that to calculate electric range, much like every vehicle takes a rolling average of MPG and uses that to calculate tank range.
Question, for the RAV4 prime - does the AWD work at all speeds (e.g. on highway)? If memory serves, on the hybrid RAV4, the AWD (via electric motor) only works at lower speeds (i think up to 35 mph?)
Hey Alex, are you able to tell us anything about the upcoming Toyota BZ?
Maybe it will take the limelight off the Rav4 Prime 😜
I was able to get one. Very happy with it. Averaging over 100mpg combining EV & HV. Any info on this RAV4 Prime towing a trailer. I loved your video on your RAV4 Hybrid Towing. I have been looking for the video you discussed where you take it on a long Camping trip towing a trailer and the mpg you get. I would greatly appreciate you sending me the link?
Nice review Alex. Thanks! When you schedule a charge, can you set the percent charge to say 80% or something other than 100%? This is a feature of full electric cars, but I think a 50 mile PHEV can also benefit from it, if one does not need to travel 50 miles before next charge.
According to “car care nut” on YT, don’t charge fully unless you plan on using immediately to save battery life
Charging to 100% on this thing is actually 90% according to ScanGauge. You can not set the charge percentage, only the schedule but there seems to be a way to sort of get around that by scheduling to leave sooner than what you set it to.
Those small black areas on the corners of the front lip of the front bumper would be perfect for fog lights with integrated corning lights. Is there any word on the Prime getting other interior color options? I'm really not a fan of all black interiors.
god how i love this channel
There is a 2 year 'Wait List' (at Least) here in Mid Michigan for the Prime.
We just ordered a Rav4 Limited Hybrid (Loaded) that we hopefully will see by December 2021.
Since we have to wait I am hoping we can get a 2022 Model but I doubt it...
Something everyone should know. Just got back from my local dealer. They have a 10k market price mark up. They said all of them are marking it up because it is a “hot” car. It put the price over 51k. Also gets smaller state and local incentives but does get the $7500 fed tax credit. Makes it the same price as Tesla.
what about the Audi Q5 hybrid 2020...the technology sounds same as the RAV prime...please do Video on Q5 hybrid
Everybody’s situation will be a little different, but in Austin TX, running our Prius Prime on electric charged from home, is about 40% cheaper per mile than on 55MPG gas. That, based upon pre-COVID-19 gas prices here (around $2.20/gallon).
You misspelled Rav4 with RAM4
LOL
Best reviews on TH-cam
I had a reservation, and could have had it by the end of the month. But it was $55,000 with the options I wanted. It's still just a RAV4, and I can't see spending that much money on a car like that. I hope whoever our reservation went to, enjoys it! For now, we'll just keep enjoying the inefficient Volt that we paid $17,000 for.
I love the RAM 4 prime!!
Alex. For the 0 to full time to charge on level 1, is that truly from 0? I’m picking up my RAV4Prime tomorrow….I notice with my Kia PHEV, the battery pack never really gets to true 0. It’ll go EV only until the battery gets to about 16%, then will go to hybrid mode. Does the RAV4 Prime battery get to true zero? Also, I notice the one you are testing has the roof rails. Do they create a lot of drag? Mine will be coming with them. Want to know whether it’s worth the effort to take them off when not using them (which will be most of the time), or will it be negligible?
I wish u could have an app on your phone to schedule the charging just like in Tesla
Any thoughts on the battery life or/and issues in cold weather like -20 to 30 Celsius? Tia
Looks awesome.
Has anything changed between the time this video was recorded and now Feb 2022 both in your RAV4 prime evaluation and comparison with it's competition?
There are a lot of roof rack water leaking cases in Taiwan for the 2020 & 2021 model. Owners and news found out that there are 10 holes (5 on each side) beneath the roof rack stripe for the screws. A tiny plastic ring on the screw can't stop the water leak. The water leak can damage some electronic plus the side air bags. Then I checked online for north America owners with the same problem.......What do u expect with 10 holes on your car roof?
What a great video, although it is obviously US-centric. Here in Australia our government doesn't offer the tax credit, in fact the various states are moving to introduce a 2c per km tax on PHEVs and 2.5c per km on EVs, where as the standard Hybrid is excluded. From what you said, it would be far more expensive to buy and also more expensive to run. The only advantage is the extra HP (or as we call it KW}. We are literally about to purchase a RAV4 Hybrid AWD Cruiser. I am just waiting to compare it to the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, which will probably lose, but I still have to test it for myself.
Toyota dealerships might be getting the 2021 stock soon because my local Toyota dealership emailed me last week saying the wait time for a fully loaded XSE is less than 6 months now. It was around 1 year about a month ago.
This shoe would fit me well. I commute 38 miles one way to work. The drive is warm climate flat highway commute. I work 12-14 hour days, and I can charge it at work.
Awd (ish) almost 300hp.. sold. Maybe next year or so.