Canon EOS R8 vs R6 Mark II vs R6: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy?

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  • @yiorc
    @yiorc ปีที่แล้ว +168

    I have an R6, i pushed the ISO to 16k-20k a few weeks ago because the lighting was almost non-existent, no issues whatsoever. The photos were perfect

    • @SShaBazzz
      @SShaBazzz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it's because of the 20 megapixels instead of the 24. Because it's 20, the pixels are bigger which gives more light with less effort.

    • @MrRaduso
      @MrRaduso 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Was there no grain to be seen ? I put 3200 on my RP and I already know it, and at 6400 I can see it completely :/ but up to 3200 it's absolutely perfect, but for darker scenes I have to remove noise, so I'm thinking about R6 or R8

    • @smartoff4417
      @smartoff4417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MrRaduso у меня был RP, я так же снимал с ИСО до 6400. Я купил R8 и снимаю до 25600.

    • @wldktz1
      @wldktz1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SShaBazzzthat’s a myth between these cameras. A newer high resolution sensor can be cleaner than an older lower resolution sensor. It’s a combination of sensor and processor.

    • @Visual_Ghoul
      @Visual_Ghoul 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rp is worse inlow light than the r7 unfortunately​@@MrRaduso

  • @gamedude407
    @gamedude407 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wonderful comparisons as always, Jared. I can't thank you enough for helping me decided how best to get back into photography.

  • @LyndonPatrickSmith
    @LyndonPatrickSmith ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This was exactly the comparative review I was waiting for, and it contained all the salient points. Great job Fro!

  • @davey3765
    @davey3765 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Your videos have been so much help, I upgraded my 5D mk1 and got an R6 mk2 and I think I went a little overkill LOL I went from driving a fishing boat to commanding an aircraft carrier. The thing is learning to let the camera have some control because, today, it's so good at it. My brain is still back in 2005 when the 5D came out and you never let the camera out of it's cage. You kept the reins on and always told it what to do. The auto iso and the minimum shutter speed in Av mode are an insane help for maco. The zebra while manual focusing - WOW those alone...

  • @creightonholub
    @creightonholub ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the comparison video we needed and the the Fro quality we love!

  • @redsky269
    @redsky269 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Superb video; the best I've come across so far delineating the differences between the three cameras, with clear examples of, for example, how the 1/4000 shutter speed is significant compared to 1/8000.

  • @btecww
    @btecww ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I have been using the R6 for 2 years now. I have zero interest in upgrading or losing $500 on selling my R6. I have some L glass and enjoying its full potential. Video is still decent. There will always be new bodies to upgrade to. Mastering the camera in your hand is the key

  • @Sigman-xg9mf
    @Sigman-xg9mf ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just purchased the R6 Mk II today BECAUSE of THIS VIDEO!! Thank you Jared!!! ❤😊

  • @mariocristobalcolladoavile448
    @mariocristobalcolladoavile448 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can't wait to see the comparison between the R7 and the R8. I do skateboarding photography. I currently own a 7D Mark II I bought back in 2015, a canon 24-105 f4, canon 70-200 F4 (non-IS), canon 50mm f1.8, and a Rokinon 8mm f3.5 fisheye.

  • @breakfastforyousoul
    @breakfastforyousoul ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been waiting for a comparison like this! THANK YOU MASTER FROTO!

  • @shovelrocker7102
    @shovelrocker7102 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Got myself R6mk2 some time ago and about month back was taking photos of Willow Grouse that looks like a snowball in middle of snowy field and the eye AF was still locking perfectly on the eye of the bird. I Love my R6mk2 for the reason that you can enjoy taking excellent photos with it knowing that it just works like you would want it to.

  • @kevindiaz3459
    @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I think the R8 is going to be a lot of people's first full frame camera, and also a lot of people's first R series camera. I am sure Canon will sell the shit out of them. Considering it's price point will almost certainly put a dent in the used price of the R6mki, I am actually advising still shooters to look for good deals on that instead. The two card slots, bigger battery, IBIS, full mechanical shutter, and better build quality by themselves are worth the couple hundred or so extra dollars it will cost to find a good used R6 instead, at least for the time being. I just do not think 40fps is really that practical; shooting at 20fps already left me with so many shots to cull that it drove me nuts (even 12fps, same deal). I doubt the 4mp higher res will ever matter. I feel like most of the AF improvements are things that will only matter in very specific kinds of shooting, I never had trouble getting most my shots in focus on the R6mki (making that flood of photos to cull even more of a hairpulling scenario). But still, the R8 is going to be a home run for Canon. It's got a friendly price tag on a full frame camera that is very capable, and stands out well above the aging R and RP (neither of which had very strong AF for any kind of action, the R8 will smoke them both). Get the adapter with it so you can utilize EF lenses, the 24mp isn't likely to out resolve many if any of them. That opens your door to lens selection significantly.
    I do agree about the video specs, save for the missing IBIS. That is a toss up for people that need stabilized video. Those that don't, the R8 is a no brainer over the R6mki if video is your focus.
    I took a pass on the R6mkii basically because I don't think it will improve what I do with it. That faster readout speed is probably the only thing that I might find a benefit from. Everything else I felt was too little for my own use. If it had been a BSI sensor with everything else it is for that 2499, that would have been an instant buy for me. As is, I think I'm good. But if anyone was looking to put some money into something new, didn't have any of the above and the R5 was def off the table, I would probably say go ahead and put the extra money into the mkii, if for no other reason because you might get that "oh I wish I had gotten the latest and greatest" feeling at some point. Which I have seen people have, even when what they do doesn't really require it, they still want for what they could have had instead. If that is you, the R6mkII will do you well. Until you decide you want the R5 LOL, I see you back there! 🤣

    • @nicks8484
      @nicks8484 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I just bought my R8 as im very new to photography and its a great price point with a great sensor. Im hoping the lack of IBIS is fine as the lenses i bought have IS. It really looks great to me

    • @cydzerlight1383
      @cydzerlight1383 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nicks8484by right, if ur lens have ibis, there shouldnt be a noticeable issue, unless additional ibis of body can make a different. But then if ohotography is the primary uses, u shld be fine

  • @Gusseq81
    @Gusseq81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very complete video! Thanks for helping me to decide which one will be my next camera.

  • @LeeCarpenterPhotography
    @LeeCarpenterPhotography ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've just gone from a 1dx mkii to a R6 mkii and I have to say it is incredible, I am getting so many more keepers and it has given me a lot more confidence. Love it!!!

  • @StevieDrama
    @StevieDrama ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info as usual. I’ve been trying to decide which camera to get for weeks now (months really) I feel comfortable pulling the trigger now.

  • @ak_hoops
    @ak_hoops ปีที่แล้ว

    Easiy the most thorough comparisons. Great video! Thank you

  • @monkeywizard77
    @monkeywizard77 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    After seeing what Canon added from the R6 to the Mk2, and what they have in the R8, I"m extremely excited to see what they have in the R5 Mk2 when announced.

  • @martyd5819
    @martyd5819 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I like the R6m2 IBIS because I'm an old guy who gets the yips now and then. My 40+ year Canon journy... AE1P, T5i, RP, R6m2. All served me well. Informative video, thanks Jared.

    • @TheCupfulBoy
      @TheCupfulBoy ปีที่แล้ว

      but you were okay with last three cameras without IBIS thought right? does getting a good lens with stabilization help?

    • @myrnamalkin8236
      @myrnamalkin8236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The R6 also has IBIS

  • @Byrkster
    @Byrkster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this. I just started. I bought the R8 Been watching your stuff to help me out. I have my first portrait shooting coming in a few weeks. :) Thanks for the tips.

  • @lordmarc7845
    @lordmarc7845 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Jared, i'm convinced now that and going to upgrade to the new R8 from my old EOS 5D Mark II. It's been a while since I bouth a new camera therefore your video helped me so much. I would love to see a vidoe on glass for the new R8 when you have time. Thanks again, Marc from Toronto.

  • @phylumofthefree
    @phylumofthefree 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had the R6 for over 2 years. Shoot both video and stills. Totally happy with both. I got it for the 10 bit video coming from the black magic system. I still love the BM files but the R6 when exposed properly looks awesome.

  • @AbhiIndrarajan
    @AbhiIndrarajan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the review… one thing you can add as a positive for the r8… you can use it on the smaller gimbals that use phones, cause if it’s light weight, such as the crane

  • @bigpappas65ss
    @bigpappas65ss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I recently had to upgrade my Canon 30D that I was using for sports photography from soccer, football, baseball and wrestling. I purchased the R6 as my upgrade and have been nothing but satisfied. My be looking for a second camera for more sports shooting. Thanks for the information. 👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽

  • @corbinpearce7686
    @corbinpearce7686 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've been loving my R6II. It feels sturdy but not oversized or bulky, and it shoots as well as I could need for anything that I do. The resolution is also perfect for quality images without having crazy file sizes.

  • @MilanaPaddock
    @MilanaPaddock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the info, especially using sports! I've had my Canon 5D mark 4 for 7 years so I think its time to upgrade to the Canon R8!

  • @TooGood79
    @TooGood79 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:20 Thanks! I’ve had the MKII since day one and never had the chance to use this feature. Good to know just before summertime 🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @FrankSilverado
    @FrankSilverado ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these camera comparisons. I upgraded to the R6 mk ii and have been very happy. I do NOT like the small R8's small battery..

  • @mikejonce1
    @mikejonce1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! VERY thorough. 😊

  • @tammanaq
    @tammanaq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. You can get the Vello BG-C18 battery grip. It fits both the RP and the R8.

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    R6 Mark II all the way. Pre burst is a game changer. IBIS and dual card slots are essential.

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IBIS isn't essential for Canon cameras. RF lens IS is doing a better job than Sony Nikon Fuji IBIS

    • @anandcranfield1
      @anandcranfield1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But for stills - isn't having IS on both camera and lens, more advantage then just IS only on lens. R8 vs R6 II

    • @shang-hsienyang1284
      @shang-hsienyang1284 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anandcranfield1 Anyone who knows the mechanism of image stabilization would realize IBIS and lens IS are complimentary to each other.

    • @ralphsaad8637
      @ralphsaad8637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Σ ε γ σ The same RF lenses cost a fortune and most people won't afford them. So IBIS is indeed a great bonus...

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ralphsaad8637 Ermmm....let me guess you ignore the non L lineup and just complain RF L lenses are expensive?
      RF16mm and RF50/1.8 are as cheap as many 3rd party lenses. RF24/35/85/600/800 non L lenses are all stabilize better than Sony/Nikon/Fuji IBIS and lightweight. Their counterparts either not stabilized&3rd party, or don't have anything to match up with RF.
      RF24-105STM and RF-S 18-150 are ok for Kit lens. Getting sharp images by 1/2 shutter speed is easily doable.
      RF100-400 looks dark but amazing performer that puts traditional 70-300&100-400 into shame in daylight. And since these 70-300&100-400 are not useful in low light, why not pick a cheaper&lighter option.
      Only RF-S 18-45, 55-210 and RF15-30 are bad enough to receive all the criticism they have.

  • @TataDailyFit
    @TataDailyFit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great review

  • @sunitnikam
    @sunitnikam ปีที่แล้ว

    Gre8 explanation.... Appreciate your speed of explanation...

  • @jasonridgley1832
    @jasonridgley1832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just recently upgraded from canon700d to r6 mark 2 what a difference they are the quality of photo is amazing with the auto focus. I got the r6mark2 as a deal so it was the body and lens (24-105mm f4) for £3800 along with an extra battery and adaptor control ring. The r6mark2 can go a lower iso (50iso) if you adjust the range of the iso on the settings it will show L on the camera. There is a first electronic curtain that can do 1/8000 of a second. I tried a sigma 105mm macro f2.8 plus adaptor be careful when focusing this lens as you can see the inner surroundings of the lens recommend to use the canon rf macro lenes to not see the inner surroundings of the lens, but overall this camera is a beast.

  • @jonberube2489
    @jonberube2489 ปีที่แล้ว

    R6 and R6II owner here. The R6 was my first full frame camera and I now have a bunch of L series glass. I jumped on the R6II and I love it with no regrets. I'm now starting to dabble with video, but I'm either going to upgrade my Adobe package to include premier or pay for DaVinci Resolve as I learned the free version doesn't support CLOG3. So far I've just been recording 180fps videos and posting them unedited on my channel. I'm still 99% stills shooter, but with the R6II I can expand my skills with video.

  • @recrdholdr
    @recrdholdr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought a used R6 and I'm very happy with it so far. Now I'm not a video shooter, and I moved up from an APSC DSLR fo the R6 is light years ahead of my last camera.

  • @Cupclickphoto
    @Cupclickphoto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing review as always. I am happy with my R6. Won’t upgrade for now. Thanks Jared

  • @adrianvanleeuwen
    @adrianvanleeuwen ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very useful review as these cameras are close in many respects but different in others. I was considering an R7 but may upgrade to an R8 for the better low light shooting which is a plus. One card slot is no big deal. The Sandisk Pro SDs have never failed me in 10 years, provided the user formats the card regularly before using them. Electronic stabilization looks good enough for video use, and I use a monopod for wedding video use. Coming from me using an 80D, an R8 would be an upgrade also.

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just received my R8. It’s an awesome beast. Love the sensor and the resulting files.

  • @gamanjohn
    @gamanjohn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been using Canon 6D since 2013. Now its time to upgrade. Wanted R6MII but couldn't afford at this moment. Considering either R8 or Original R6. R8 really nice but small battery might be a problem since I've few LPE6 battery already. R8 priced at 1554usd in my country and R6 mark 1 priced at 1820usd with EF adapter & 2 64GB cards...Now im going for R6 mark 1

  • @suezeeq12
    @suezeeq12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding video-thanks!

  • @jsan7610
    @jsan7610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is perfect, I’ve had the R6 since release, thinking of upgrading and making my R6 the second body. Or buying the R8 and making that my second body

  • @matthewm3912
    @matthewm3912 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just ordered an R8 and i can't wait for it to come! Going to try it out on our trip to Maine.

  • @majorpayne0195
    @majorpayne0195 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    EOS R8 for me since I'm just a hobbyist.
    Upgrading from EOS 77d.

  • @eddiereyes26
    @eddiereyes26 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting on this !!!!

  • @jasmineberei
    @jasmineberei ปีที่แล้ว

    This really helped me make my decision! Thank you for this thorough and detailed video!

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem. Which did you go with?

    • @jasmineberei
      @jasmineberei ปีที่แล้ว

      @@froknowsphoto The R8!

  • @Ryuk551
    @Ryuk551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always loved photography but never owned a digital camera. I've been thinking about the R8 since before it came out and I think its the one ill go to to save money and maybe spend that money on accessories like an extra battery and stuff you mentioned. THANK YOU

  • @CarlosBustamanteRestrepo
    @CarlosBustamanteRestrepo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video🙏🏼

  • @WelcomeToMagic
    @WelcomeToMagic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It makes me think of the possibilities in the future for like an R8 mark ii. If Canon made the battery insertable from the bottom so that a grip/extender can be added, seriously it’ll be everything.

    • @jamescooke5063
      @jamescooke5063 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would they do that? Already some sports pros choose an r6 over the r3 for price reasons...
      R8 ii would be great with a rear wheel, joystick and flash sync with electronic shutter. They can leave out ibis and dual card slots so as not to appeal (so much) to professional use. Already the r8 is very attractive for new users, just not so good for existing Canon users who are married to their rear wheel.

  • @Baker504
    @Baker504 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info thanks 👍🏻

  • @crispycaptures
    @crispycaptures ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have had the R6 for a couple of years now and I still love it, I still dont feel the need to upgrade, theres just not enough reason for me.

    • @davidmpoliveira1
      @davidmpoliveira1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I got my R6 back in March 2021, and I feel no need to upgrade, this camera is a beast.

  • @saradavis5563
    @saradavis5563 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am still torn about which to get! But I love your reviews!

  • @julio5246
    @julio5246 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just got an R8, upgrading from a 90D. The R6 Mk2 must be great of course, but if you're not a pro it's hard to argue spending the extra 1k. Great video as usual.

  • @froyangphotography
    @froyangphotography ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forme the winer is the R6 ... actually i have 2 of them now. I'm a event and portrait photographer. Great video by the way, thank you very much.

  • @TGShunai
    @TGShunai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I (as a starter, been shooting for around 1,5 years) bought an R6 second hand because I want to move into payed shoots, which is why I wanted the dual card slots. I found a practically new R6 for 1900, which is a lot less than the 3k I have to spend on the R6 MkII. If it was 2500 here I would have bought the MkII

  • @BeardedTechGuy
    @BeardedTechGuy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Literally spent the last week trying to decide what I'm going to upgrade to from my 90D for 4k video, so perfect timing! 🤣

    • @truthseeker6804
      @truthseeker6804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      r6ii. no overheating like the r6. the r8 might not have overheating and could be a good choice

  • @leohanley5935
    @leohanley5935 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought the r8, I’ve been using a rebel camera for roughly 5 years so I think it’s finally time for the upgrade

  • @Fullblown671
    @Fullblown671 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this review! You've convinced me to get an R8 and with the extra savings goes a better lens!

  • @fotoinstruct6971
    @fotoinstruct6971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The big area where IBIS has proven a must have feature is shooting wildlife handheld with long telephoto's. Canon has made these available at extremely low prices. The RF 100-400, and RF 600 & 800mm have made everything from tiny birds to elephants now withing the price most photographers never dreamed they could afford. If wildlife is something you plan on shooting and can't afford the R6 Mark II, then I'd definitely give the R6 a check mark over the R8. For everything else, the R8 is a compelling choice.

  • @TCRBrad
    @TCRBrad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rocking with a 1DX and 7Dmii still and REALLY want to dip into the mirrorless game. Full "part time" sports (both indoor and outdoor) photographer with roughly 4 games a week. R6 was always the "entry sports level" body but it does seem like R8 might be the best option to start before I covert my kit fully to mirrorless...
    Any thoughts? Recommendations?

  • @andy.photoandfilm
    @andy.photoandfilm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the R6II and R8 as a second body a perfect set for hybrid photo + video work - especially them beeing the only FF cameras with 4k60p in that price range..th only rival honestly being now the XH2S

  • @eKajik
    @eKajik ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, I am currently deciding between these, I have just sold my R … also, check the weight of th R6mk2 vs R6 in the video, one weight is with and other without battery ;)

  • @77dris
    @77dris ปีที่แล้ว +4

    23:14 Correction. The R6 Mark II does NOT weigh 588g. This is a typo on the BH website. The R6 Mark II with battery is 670g (vs 680g on the R6).
    The 588 refers to the completely empty camera.

  • @derbagger22
    @derbagger22 ปีที่แล้ว

    All fantastic cameras. I love my R6 and the video is good enough for me. It will eventually be a back up to an R5 or R5ii....

  • @Setsuko7
    @Setsuko7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks fore review Jared is i possible that you can do and a comparisson between the canon R7 and R8 which are at the same price point? Thanks again for all the hard work!

  • @prthmg7718
    @prthmg7718 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hi Jared. The best comparison video. You helped me choose between R8 or R6 ii. I will go with R8. I liked the point that we can invest the extra 1k on glasses.. I have been trying to decide between these two for last 1 month and now I am clear to go with R8. Thanks bunch

  • @KaptinFathead
    @KaptinFathead ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I've used the R6 for shooting some sporting events and its fantastic. 20 mega pixels is plenty enough to capture sharp photos.

    • @77dris
      @77dris ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah! And when needed just use the ENHANCE feature in Adobe Camera Raw to upscale. I've done side by sides with the R5 using the same lenses (85 RF 1.2) and the upscaled R6 files often look significantly better than the 45 MP R5 files.
      I've also printed 8MP 1D2N files on billboards and buses and the images look amazing!

    • @barkan86
      @barkan86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True but it cannot be cropped like EOS-M m6ii 32mp. With this camera you need to carry half of the lenses of R6. And it can use the ultra sharp tiny Sigmas that do not fit on the RF.

    • @davidmpoliveira1
      @davidmpoliveira1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@barkan86 If you need to crop significantly, the issue is not the resolution of the camera.

    • @barkan86
      @barkan86 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidmpoliveira1 The issue is the resolution of the camera AND quality of the lens. Nothing beats Sigma 56 on M6ii

    • @davidmpoliveira1
      @davidmpoliveira1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@barkan86 Lol. A sharp lens is a sharp lens, doesn't matter. I own lenses that resolve way more than 20MP on full-frame. A smaller sensor may give you more pixels, but less texture details.
      And again, if you need to crop significantly, the issue is not the resolution of the camera, it's poor technique.
      20MP on full-frame allow you to print up to A3+ (13x19") at 300ppi without upscaling. How is that not enough?

  • @techtrx
    @techtrx ปีที่แล้ว

    Im from canada and saving $1k for the r8 is awesome. I also needed a b cam for blogging. No ibis didn’t matter because i shout with r5C and the enhance stabe is more than enough

  • @craigmeyer5291
    @craigmeyer5291 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jared, you have been contemplating and anticipating the end of the mechanical shutter for a long time. I can see the non-issue on burst and video, but for the still photographer, trying to get the traditional dynamic range photo beauty, or the in-depth portrait brilliance or luminosity, etc., what does it really mean? Heck, I remember my old boss doing studio portraits, covering the lens with a black card, removing the large format 150mm lens cover, letting the rig settle and replacing the card in EXACTLY 4sec.
    Maybe a more reflective ode-to or the virtues of, that expensive truly precise mechanical instrument could help us all avoid any regrets. For the average person, how many 40Kps burst you gonna shoot? And NOTEVE, from row 8. These scenarios are for those folks who get the (I did recently) floor pass. I see it as a great cost saver for a cost pressed industry. Remember the savings over the leaf shutters in the high end BIG format lenses? or the Medium Formats each with leaf shutters for hi$$, hi flash sync for bright light wide open-ness?
    This is probably a segment aimed towards your Grandpa viewers--but we love those detailed shadow rich Cherry Blossoms against a soft SKY. Unless it's a Hurricane, we don't need 40kps.
    SO, it is a bigger issue than one camera line. Or one genre. It's about a very tempting cost reduction VS Last foreveh feature. For the fine artist it may become a must avoid. (another reason to keep the EOS RS or even Mk5). For a manufacturer, it might be the tender trap. An EOS1D that never fails on the 300,000th or 800,000th actuation. I'd love to hear hour thoughts.

  • @ElusiveFrame
    @ElusiveFrame ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's incredible how unlike other reviewers you push the cameras in real life scenarios. 🤓
    The R8 is incredible for its price but the RF lens price makes me cry. 😅

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That’s how we do it

    • @blackentrepreneur244
      @blackentrepreneur244 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, Fro Knows Photo.

    • @ChrismasBoy95
      @ChrismasBoy95 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So broke that my plan was only able to use EF lens with EF-RF adapters...

    • @jazzedout
      @jazzedout 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ChrismasBoy95this is my plan as well

  • @Paul.J788
    @Paul.J788 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jared, I am a hobbyist, who may one day dabble in do some outdoor family portraits on the side for some money. But I mostly likely will just be an all around hobbyist. Would you say the R8 would be my best bet? I am hung up on the dual sd card slots. I will never be a wedding photographer where I think 2 sd card slots is a requirement. Battery life doesn’t both me as batteries are cheap. And all my lens have image stabilization. I appreciate the feedback.

  • @FilmsAlphaOne
    @FilmsAlphaOne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Extremely well explained. Thank you.
    How are you able to record the camera screen for your videos like focus point on a basketball player as you shoot from your camera?

  • @wildlifesimon
    @wildlifesimon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vide Jared!
    So the real question is, are the extras worth an extra 1,000 for the r6ii instead of the r8:
    Anti dust shuuter, built in stabilisation, almost x5 more focus points, battery life, viewfinder resolution, having mechanical shutter that does double fps, and x2 sd card slots.
    Did you notice much difference in focus points Jared?
    And did the buffer max out a lot using the r8?
    Thanks

  • @brandonmickens9722
    @brandonmickens9722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video (as always). I would love to see a comparison between the R8 and R7, a full frame and an aps-c that are virtually the same price. Would these be considered an "amateur" full frame and a "professional" crop sensor?

    • @alansach8437
      @alansach8437 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who cares what they are "considered"? The camera doesn't make the photographer.

  • @mannyN54
    @mannyN54 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some retailers have the R6 at $1,800 new when you trade in a used body or lens. I picked up an old film lens for $10 and traded it in

  • @garymeyer1861
    @garymeyer1861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get great results, so for now I'll stick with the R6. If Canon comes up with more on a R6 Mark III maybe I'll upgrade

  • @ADivaForLife
    @ADivaForLife ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped all my questions 💯💯
    Can you do a video R7 vs R8 🤪🤪

  • @robhamilton8993
    @robhamilton8993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been using rebel t series dslr for years. Thinking of R8 or maybe R6 mark II. Very confusing. I’m not a pro but LOVE getting the best from my photos. The Mark II is what I am leaning to but price I’m R8 .
    Oh, off topic, love that bowling alley table you were demonstrating on

  • @jaimelimotte9589
    @jaimelimotte9589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    currently have an EOS RP- mainly shooting sports (football and volleyball) - looking to upgrade- R6 Mark II or R8; they seem almost identical. i'm leaning towards R8 with nice glass after watching your videos. I'm just a hobby shooter- but might like to try to do some sports portraits on the side.

  • @lukasvandewiel860
    @lukasvandewiel860 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As you say: the nice extra thing is that the R6 is a bit older, and because of that it can be picked up second hand for the same price as a new R8! That will get you 7 stops of IBIS and the bigger battery for the price of a mild bit of use, as such cameras are typically taken excellent care off.

    • @viciwo3396
      @viciwo3396 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually thinking about picking R6 for $1300 with less thank 15K on the shutter. While I shoot professionally, I am not full time. I see used R6II for $2100. I don't shoot action, just events and I think R6 will do it for me for now. I already have an R.

  • @AnandaGarden
    @AnandaGarden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keeping the R6. I spent the upgrade money on a very clean 30-year-old EF80-200 F/2.8 L. Glass rules.

  • @WOLFTICKVIDEOS
    @WOLFTICKVIDEOS ปีที่แล้ว

    I have left this comment before, but here it goes again. If you turn off the auto clean sensor when powering off the camera, it is pretty instant with the shutter covering the sensor.

  • @JacobAU
    @JacobAU ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think you undermined the IBIS in the r6/r6 ii. It is such a life saver and while it doesn’t do as much with higher shutter speeds, it is absolutely amazing to have for handheld video and just the fact that you know that the shot won’t be blurry

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 ปีที่แล้ว

      I handheld a 24-70mm @ 24mm for 4 seconds on my R5. That is something that otherwise would require a tripod, even with a IS lens, before Canon had their tandem IS/IBIS. Granted, that is really specific shooting, but still, opens up many unique possibilities.

    • @ChristopherCabello
      @ChristopherCabello ปีที่แล้ว

      For video, really? I've heard many videographers say that the ibis gives them a wobbly look and they're not a fan of it. I have yet to notice it so I wonder if it's situational?

    • @rodricchan
      @rodricchan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChristopherCabelloyup, confirmed this statement.
      Wobble on edges for wide angle lens (16mm)
      Another thing is when doing a tripod panning shot, the sensor will also “float” and damper when you stop moving the tripod panning.
      Thirdly, when using 70-200mm lens, fast zoom in and outs will freak the sensor out, you’ll see it spazzing out from the shock of our hands doing quick zooms

  • @marshalpadutch2013
    @marshalpadutch2013 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just ordered the R8. Thank you

  • @mj.springhill
    @mj.springhill 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a M50 and been thinking of upgrading it. Now the R8 feels like a good option.

  • @cuncapt
    @cuncapt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU, im between second hand r6 or brand new r8

  • @cesarhilario09
    @cesarhilario09 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I am sold R6 Mark ii is my next baby ;-) Thanks for the info.

  • @minesaver
    @minesaver หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is going to be crucial for me I think as I make my decision on basically these 3. Currently leaning towards trying to wait for a used/refurb R6. I don't shoot video at all, and don't plan to. For me as someone who will be hiking with this camera I'm thinking I will benefit most from IBIS by not having to also carry a tripod, save for dedicated photography hikes where I want to be able to set up and wait. Coming from a 6D my biggest motivation is the modern software. My 6D makes getting sharp images of my toddler difficult to the point I just use my phone, but sometimes I use my Canon and my goodness the quality is astounding, in comparison, when I can wrangle that focus.

  • @Kaho_Tokyoo
    @Kaho_Tokyoo ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I went from the R7 to the R6ii recently. And honestly it comes down to what you need it for. I tend to shoot at night hand held so IBIS helps a bit. I can say I was kinda considering the R8 but the dual card slots and having a LPE6NH already made it handy. Bottom line I’d say depends on what you’re shooting.

    • @matthewsinger
      @matthewsinger ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just bought an R7 because I couldn't swing the extra $1000 for the R6 II at this time and I wanted the extra features that are lacking on the R8. But, I know that when I do upgrade, I can use the same batteries in an R6 II (or III if that's out when I'm ready, or a used R5 if they are available when I'm ready).

    • @OhhhBugger
      @OhhhBugger ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm totally in agreement. I went the opposite way and went from an R5 to the R7. It is far more suitable for what I do, (macro, astro, birding etc.). I find the IQ is fairly comparable. Actually, I felt like the colors and shadows on the R5 were a little weird.

    • @inukisoft
      @inukisoft ปีที่แล้ว +1

      también tuve una r7, pasé a r6 y creo que ha sido la mejor decisión que he tomado. Pero ahora muestran la r6 ii y la r8, pero son cámaras capadas o potenciadas en cosas que no son debilidades en la r6. Una cámara sin IBIS te obliga a comprar ópticas estabilizadas, ya me imagino a un fotógrafo deportivo sin ibis y lente sin estabilizar y sin trípode. La R8 está buena seguramente para una cámara de estudio.

    • @jibantik00
      @jibantik00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This exactly what I'm doing. I'm going from wildlife to more action, sports, events photography (out of necessity). I think the fact that everything I have for the R7 made this decision that much easier. I can take both with me if I have to and not need any extra gear.

    • @lcg350z9
      @lcg350z9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@inukisoft yo soy un fotographo deportivo y el ibis no es necessario, las fotos se toman en 1/1000 de segundo oh 1/2000 de segundo, la velocidad es muy rapida

  • @jonatanmorthorst468
    @jonatanmorthorst468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jared
    I want to know if u will choose a r8 or r6 as my main wedding camera?
    Im not shooting sport and currently own a Canon 5d mark iii
    Thanks for u help and great video btw.
    Good day!

  • @theautoart3019
    @theautoart3019 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pro shooter here with huge hands
    Worked with the r6 before but would definitely spend the money and swap for the MKII

  • @tammanaq
    @tammanaq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if you could use a dual SD Card in the R8 and save on both at the same time? Maybe with Magic Lantern? Sony makes the MS Pro Duo SD Card adapters which contains two micro SD cards. So technically it should be possible to make a one slot camera a dual slot camera. Another thing. You can set the camera to wifi mode and let it transfer all photos to your iPad or the like. Then you get a backup while only having one card slot.

  • @jacy123
    @jacy123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ibis was a true game changer for me when I got the R5. Vs my 5dsr. Looking at these three for my second cam for weddings. I think I’d have to go with a used R6 since they go for ~1500 and has ibis..
    mk ll would be sweet but as a second cam I’ll save the 1k and still get ibis.

  • @Kenshin11212
    @Kenshin11212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming from the 5Diii, the R8 sounds amazing for me to enter into the mirrorless lineup

  • @bread3208
    @bread3208 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Mark 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mariavanschie7946
      @mariavanschie7946 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mark ii has artificial sharpening. Looks overly sharp and unnatural. Not good.

    • @ming-artoflight2761
      @ming-artoflight2761 ปีที่แล้ว

      R8..small compact

  • @gnawty4662
    @gnawty4662 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful breakdown 👏 love the points made about using the extra $$ on glass.
    Will a tripod help the R8’s image stabilization for video? If so, it’s R8 for me. #DadLife

  • @dimitrisz5745
    @dimitrisz5745 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am currently thinking of upgrading from my full frame DSLR Canon 6D mark ii to the R8 or the R6 (can't afford the 6R mark ii at this point). I am a very frequent hiker and traveler and I shoot like way too many many pics on my trips. I want to get rid of the DSLR weight and move into the mirrorless technology. At this point I want to add that I will also have to use an adaptor since I already use the Tamron 24-70 2.8 lens on my full frame and due to the fact that a a new lens of this quality and specs costs way too much now for me. I would like to mention that I almost never ever go out without my backpack when I travel, which means that I always carry like 2 extra batteries or extra SD cards, I am clarifying this just because of the fact mentioned that the R8 does not have the 2 SD slots and not the battery the R6 does. Both cameras have the same price currently in my country so that's why any kind of extra tip is very welcome. Also to be noted, I never shoot videos, like almost 0, I always use my GoPro for that when I am on the mountains, I only enjoy shooting wildlife, landscapes and the aurora borealis since I m visiting Norway like 3 times per year. Thank you all guys for help in advance!!

  • @G1Z
    @G1Z ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t watched the video yet but I’ve been watching Jared forever. I don’t think he has ever suggesting buying older tech. It’s always the newest is the best. Let’s see 🍿

  • @DLivingston
    @DLivingston ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this video. As a sports photographer for my local college and using 2 R6's, I have been considering moving up to the MKii but for now, I think I will wait it out. If you're reading this, keep in mind that not all lenses are supported in those super fast mechanical shutter speeds. For example, the R6 will not get 12fps with an adapted 70-200mm f2.8 non-IS lens. That is just one lens it doesn't support. Found out the hard way.

    • @IAF1900
      @IAF1900 ปีที่แล้ว

      True! Only RF lenses can get you the full performances of the R6. It's the same thing with some autofocus settings in video which are unavailable with some ef lenses

    • @DLivingston
      @DLivingston ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IAF1900 you can get the full performance with adapted lenses. They just need to be on the supported list. But luckily I’ve not missed out on anything AF wise with my lenses.

    • @IAF1900
      @IAF1900 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DLivingston That's pretty cool! I didn't knew there was a list for that. Thank you!

  • @hindermath
    @hindermath 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    R8 to upgrade my RP as my new fullframe camera because of the capabilities of the R8. What a step forward.

  • @ItzSi
    @ItzSi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the R8 is a great content creator camera and a brilliant B cam 👌🏼

  • @geoffread2707
    @geoffread2707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    R8 for me! I love the lighter body for travelling and hiking.