NEW SIG SAUER P225-A1 - 1st Hundred
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"Whenever we gain capacity, we gain a little girth." I knew it! I'm not fat, I'm high capacity!
+2ndA_Dad Dang! That's quotable!
there's a tasteless dick joke to be made there, but i'm beyond that ;)
This pistol is under the radar due to its mag capacity. It’s capable & professionals shooter…
I am surprised that Sig stopped making the P225 A1 since California and some other states only allow 10 round mags since this only takes 8 plus 1.
A few corrections... The P220 was first made in 9mm Para & 7,65mm Para & only later was it made in .38 Super as well as in .45 ACP (a few .22 lr conversions were also made by SIG-Sauer). The P220 -and not the P225- is the pistol of the Swiss armed forces where it is known as the P75. The P225 is known & was always known as the... P225! It is only among the (West) German State police where it was issued that it was known as the P6 & so marked.
Thankyou Christoph for the correct info. The P220 is known in the US as a 45ACP but it was originally a 9mm when first introduced as a single stack full size sidearm in Europe in 1977. The P220 became a dedicated 45ACP when the double stack 9mm full size P226 was introduced in '83 I think...
It's such a nice gun, but 9 rounds of 9mm out of a pistol that's the size of a Glock 19 and 30 ounces. IDK.
Oopoop
just wanted to say I got my p225 now. I love it and cannot believe how fun it is to shoot. I also want to say I hate you,you cost me to much money and for the love of God please no more sig or walther reviews!!!! Great work as always. You are one true professional.
nice gun and great review. your presentation is just perfect and as always top quality review.
+james swan Thanks very much!
Very Nice Review! I enjoyed watching. We will be doing our own review on this Sig P225-A1 sooner then I thought, as my local Gun Store was able to order one for me yesterday! So 1 to 2 weeks is what I was told, and Keith's Sporting Goods has always been good to us. I look forward to reviewing The Sig 225 and the question I am already asking myself is..... Will it be a Glock 43 Killer for me, since I really did not like the Glock 43 very much. It just did not fit my hand very well. Is The Sig 225 A1 the choice for me? Time will tell.
Keep up the great work. BERETTA9mmUSA Sr.
+BERETTA9mmUSA Thanks, my friend. I guarantee that you'll love the way this feels in your hand. But then, you have access to YB's classic P225 (lucky dogs). The new G10 grip and front checkering are amazing. Can't wait to see your video and get your perspective on this one!
+BERETTA9mmUSA I'm betting my buddy on which one of you get a M9A3 first :)
+BERETTA9mmUSA The 225 A1 appears to be slightly larger than the G43. And heavier.
Nice review, Justin. I picked up a used P239 in 9mm 2 or 3 years ago and it is my carry gun. I put the SRT on it, which I think Sig should put on every gun they sell. My 239 isn't as smooth as my 229 in .40, but it's not bad. Looking forward to the GA review. See if you can put a picture of the 239 next to it so we can see the difference in the two. Thanks!
If you are reviewing a P225 A-1 Why not call it so? Some people will be confused by you calling it a 225 when in fact the 225 A-1 is an improved 225. Always remember your audience may be new to Sigs and if you want them to subscribe try not to confuse them. BTW I love my Sigs all of 'em including the 225 A-1.
Had A German P225. I loved it. Bought the new P225A1 even before Sig even had it on its site. 27 pound DAK Mainspring is way too strong. Had the Sig Armorer do a trigger job with QRT and a 21 pound Mainspring. Gun is now a joy to shoot and dead accurate.
Seems like the direct comparison would be with the M11-A1. Only apparent difference would be twice the capacity-15 round mags.
Excellent review. I have the new P225-A! and find its accuracy to be exceptional. Have owned a couple of double stack Sigs in the past and found the trigger reach for me was a problem. The slimmer design of the 225 has solved that problem and I agree the SRT is a delight for smoothness and quick shots. Still getting use to relearning the initial DA trigger pull but it definitely has been in my carry rotation. The checkering and G10 grips are a nice improvement from my old Sigs as are the improved night sights that work well in daylight better than most I have experienced. FYI I was able to get extra mags quickly from Sig. Keep the vids coming.
Great history lesson and review! Great as always!
I got to shoot one the other day, I came away thinking, this is the best hammer fire Sig I have shot, It's moved to the front of my to buy list for sure, price around the PNW was $899.95 w/o night sights
I, like you am a huge fan of Sig handguns...I mean for f$%^& sakes, if the SEALS trusted it for as long as they did, who are we lowly peons to argue otherwise, right?
OK! At 26:57 you finally said 225 A-1. Excellent review as usual!
How about a compare/contrast with a Sig p239?:-)
FYI the Sig 225 came out in 75 because after the Munich 72 tragedy the Germans decided they needed to upgrade from the 380 which was often used at that time.
intro music is good. Let the thrashing commence
I love how the p220 and p225 sigs are made without that big hump on the side that makes them so hard to conceal
Discontinued. 8rds just idnt enough. Especially when you can get a 229.
I also saw your review of the P229C SAS. You commented that the P229C was very smooth and shot like most 9mm in your experience. Having said that, which of these two would you prefer as a carry pistol? Given your time with each firearm. I have no experience with the .357 sig round. If there really is no measureable difference in the "shoot-ability" of these two firearms, I believe I may want to give the P229C a try. Thank you for your videos.
P229C is indeed a sweet shooter in both .357 SIG and .40 S&W. The reason I felt it shot as smoothly as most 9mms is due to the ergonomics and weight, and well chosen recoil spring. For carry though (even though that's what the "C" stands for, it has a couple of challenges: Thickness and height. It has a full height grip and magazine, which can be a printing concern. But the P225 is not all that much shorter.... If you have a chance to shoot them both you should. But I consider them both excellent guns (and both are overdue for more range time!).
My "First 8" Review
I bought this handgun based on this review- the trigger broke after the first 8 rounds. I'm serious- I took the pistol out of the case for the first time, loaded the magazine with SIG branded ammo and fired it at a local gun range. Somehow after the 8th round this gun fired the trigger would no longer reset or drop the hammer in single or double action. I don't think I can stress this point enough- this was after the 8th round of this brand new pistol. 8, not 18, 80, 800 or 8,888 rounds. 8 as in 2 less than 10. 8 rounds of new factory manufacturer recommended ammunition fired under normal conditions turned my 1,000 dollar SIG P225A1 into a paperweight. Making matters worse, because this is a new model pistol no gunshop or gunsmith has any replacement parts so I had to send this gun back to SIG Sauer for repair. Adding insult to injury, SIG Sauer treated me like some sort of criminal and jerked me around on the phone for 30 minutes before giving me an RMA # and didn't even guarantee that they'd be able to repair the gun (I literally can not wait to find out that I have to pay for service due to my "negligence"). I used to have a SIG P225- now I have a FedEx tracking number and a SIG work order number neither of which shoot very good groups.
Needless to say that this will be my last SIG handgun and there is no way that I could ever trust that this gun would be reliable when I needed it the most. In summation, I still have 92 rounds to go before I get to my "first 100" with this particular handgun but my advice would be put your money and time into another gun. Like any other gun- a slingshot would serve you better.
+Jack Irby Wow. Very sorry to hear about your experience. I haven't had a chance to shoot mine again since filming the video, but it is one that I want badly to take back out. I understand (only too well) your frustration and disappointment. I hope that this ends well after the pistol comes back repaired. I hope you'll post a follow up comment - either way it goes. I love SIG products, but I have no affiliation with the company and owe no allegiance. I have purchased every single SIG Sauer pistol that I have ever reviewed. Most are gems - some are not. Again, sorry to hear about your experience, Jack. Hang in there!
+Justin Opinion Well the gun came back from Sig all fixed up- took it to the range and shot 100, I'll be a little more confident in the gun after I put 1,000 or so through it without an issue.
Jack Irby
Great to hear! Thanks for the update!
I believe a better comparison would be the M11A1/P228 vs. P225A1. Why would you choose a single stack vs. a double?
As much as I love this gun and all p22x sigs I just can't believe the suggested retail of a 30 oz 8+1 single stack 9mm is $1200. Somehow sig could have brought this gun to the market at a suggested retail of around $800 but they would rather be greedy. You can get a legion p22x for $1200 and I think you would be getting way more gun for the money. All that said, I really want this pistol lol
+Jeremy Jones LOL, I get it. But considering your own comparison, the MSRP of the Legions is over $1400 and you indicated that $1200 is a realistic price. I think once these P225s start sitting on shelves a similar reality will exist. THAT SAID... it's still steep. Is it worth it? Something I plan to opine on in my full review. I enjoy and appreciate the feedback, because it helps me prepare a more rounded perspective.
+Justin Opinion fair enough. I'm seeing legions here and there for around $1100-$1200 so hopefully these can be had for $300 under msrp eventually as well. It's not like this is the first single stack $1000+ handgun created, I'm just mad I can't go out and buy one right now lol
+Jeremy Jones I agree with your comments but I just picked one up on GB.com for $860 (w night sights.) Love my 226 and it's hard to justify the need for the 225. Still, after handling it I just had to get one!
Its a very nice DA/SA pistol and I'm sure that people that are well off financially will buy them. Good thing for me I was able to buy a Bersa 9mm Ultra Compact for a third of the price. Has just as good of a short reset trigger, holds five more rounds, 4 ounces lighter, all metal, Decocker, shorter in length and height, has a picatinny rail, and every bit as reliable. P225 is a little thinner, night sights and has a better finish. Better pistol to brag about owning. If you can afford to pay more for a pistol than the manufacturer deserves .... Good for you
Awesome stuff once again! So many good guns out there nowadays! I keep the bracelets too!
I would compare it to the Sig P239.
Sweet vid as always. Thank you. I'd like to hear your opinion on the M11-A1.
1 minute and 26 seconds before you start is too long.
A mistake not to use a 10 round mag like the one the Shield Plus uses. Could have been a big success in states/nations with a 10 round mag capacity limit. That said, I prefer the bigger trigger guard on the original P225 that's better suited to use with heavy gloves, for which use the variant with the heel butt mag release is best as it cannot be accidentally released by a gloved finger/thumb and is easier to operate with such gloves.
Big fan here, just wondering if you are going to do second part(follow up) on this pistol? I ordered one from Bud's and impatiently waiting for her arrival, you are very honest and I highly value your opinion, thank you.
Thanks for the kind words. I ABSOLUTELY will be doing more video work with this gun. One of my favorites, and needs to be enjoyed! I'll be quite surprised if you are not completely satisfied with yours.
thank you, please keep them videos coming...
Thank you for the great review. That is a pistol well worth the money.
Hi, nice video thanks,... Are u aware of Mag compatibility between the p225A1 and the p239?? Can't seen to find a mag for my p239 under 50$.
Lol. MSRP You said was around $1,100. I picked mine up at a pawn shop, NIB, with bracelet and all paper crap for $940-ish after tax.
Zero rounds, no marks on feed ramp, slide, nothing. Perfect condition.
It looks like a single stack M11-A1. I'll take my $400.00 P6 over the $1300.00 new model.
Hey! I didn't get a sticker with my P320?! cheap bastards lol
***** Cheap ass bastards, hahahaha! I really wanted a SIG sticker too so I can stick it on either my ammo can, laptop, or car window.
+mrvaperz23 Thanks, you just had to rub it in hahahahaha!
+mrvaperz23 I'm OK with the cost cutting. it was affordable and it's a pretty damn awesome pistol
***** I know you're playing haha. With the money I saved on the P320 I'm now going to buy a Lionheart LH9N, from what I've heard it's SIG quality in a much cheaper package. Trigger system is very interesting if you've never seen it before.
I once read that the Sig P225-A1 mags fit in the Sig P239.
Is that true or just a rumor?
Great IWB,OWB gun ! Love SIG SAUER P models.
Great history lesson and review! Great as always!
+Armed and Feminine Thanks. It was easy for me... I was alive in the 1970's. :)
Great video!!!
Beautiful gun but quite heavy for 8 rounds
I really like mine. As accurate as my VP9.
Love mine. Shoots as well as my P220 Legion.
I might be wrong, but I think that the original P220 in Europe was 9mm.
+Marsal Tito You're correct. When it came to the U.S. it was only .45 ACP, but initially was 9mm in Europe.
Omfg lame review
aren't there like 1k... I'd take a beretta... over this if I'm paying 1k
Impact Guns has them for $860.
My girl loves my P220 but I would LOVE to get her this (though she loves NCIS so i'm thinking the M11-A1 sauce for her)
I keep trying to talk myself into buying this gun; without success. My heart says yes; but my mind says, NO! It reminds me of what my buddy said about a mutual, female friend. "So much to offer; yet, so little." I bought a TALO Edition, Glock 43, and a Walther PPS M2, LE Edition; for a combined cost, less than this pistol. Even taking into consideration, the great ergonomics, features and Sig quality; it's hard for me to see how this would replace either of these two guns, in my carry rotation; or my Colt, Lightweight Defender, and Ruger LCP II. Really nice gun, though. Thanks for your review(s)!
that 320 is clearly thicker
+dawhitecastle I'll do actual measurements in the future. That crazy takedown lever on the P320 makes it wider than a 1979 Buick... aside from that they are very close.
+Justin Opinion haha maybe it just looks wider...but I was also wasted and just about passed out when I watched and wrote that last night :)
I purchased this pistol and when I shake it back and forth there is play. You can hear the internals moving. None of my other sigs do this. Is yours loose? Also I get perfect accuracy at ten yards I can get a two inch group. Move it to fifteen yards i'm all over the place. Again none of my other sigs do this. I want to send it back in, but can u complain about a loose slide?
Love this new release, but wow... the price ridiculous. I've been eyeing the old p225/p6 for a year now, and I guess I'll have to go that route instead of getting the latest version. The old ones are listed at $400 in my area, but I can probably pick it up for $350.
I haven't been a fan of striker fired pistols, but I've watched your review of the 220,227 & the 320. I'm getting interested as Glock triggers just don't do it.
O’ how I wish 226 slides would function on 225 frames!
PS: replacing the 25lb mainspring with a 19lb will reduce DA/SA pull weights.
Very nice single stack 9mm, I opted for the P-239 gen two all the same features. It has gone through the Sig custom shop and was designed for CC and has the best trigger of all my SIG's or any other DA/SA triggers I've fired. I'm sure the 225 offers 10 Rd as does the 239 as one would expect it's a shooter. I'll be looking forward to a range review.
With a safe full of "more modern" choices, how can I justify this pistol except that I wanted it the moment they reintroduced it. The older I get the more I'm gravitating towards single stack not so tiny pistols and not giving a rats butt what experts and younger more arrogant people say or think.
Hey, just received my P225. I loaded the mag and chambered a round. I went to eject my mag to top it off and it stuck. In fact it sticks every time I try it. Tried both mags and does the same thing. It seems the next round in the mag moves forward a bit preventing it to fall freely. I am wondering if you had this issue?
I carry a kahr k9 off duty but im sure looking at switching for this one.....i carry a p220 platinum elite on duty.....love the sigs.
I have a P6/P225, Made in 04/79. LOVE IT!!!! but I only paid $400.00
Great review. I am picking up a P225 this coming week. I am on a Sig buying spree lately. Picked up a Legion P226 and compact P320 in the past couple of months. Are you able to tell us if the guide rod is plastic or hollow metal?
+LOMROB Guide rod is hollow steel. Envy you the Legion - my sources are completely dry.
It sure love me like SIG could have made it a '9+1'. As is, I'd rather have a P239.
also...i had to hold my toungue when you brought the 320 sub-compact out...i think we all know why at this point...
Great review I also really want this pistol it feels amazing in my hand I thought SIG made it just for me LOL I got to put one in my hand at the LGS and fell in love with the way it felt in hand it felt better to me than my shield and my glock 43 the only thing I dont like is the price of course
I like your reviews, but wish you (and other reviewers) would do 25 yard bench rest accuracy testing!
What a nice pistol. I was looking at the Sig M11A1, but this one will do too. Good review too.
SRT with the 'normal' trigger truly is perfect.
'spensive tho!
awesome video good information - but I feel like your shutter speed may be off
Umm, the P225 is not 3/4” shorter in grip length. 3/8” at best
P/U my P225 A1 and put a couple hundred rounds through it. Wow! I really like it. Bought the model w/the contrast sights but had my LGS, I purchased the gun from install a set of the new Sig Xray night sights. These are the sights Sig is putting on the Legion series guns. They are made by True Glo and are a great sight. Very comparable to Trijicon HD's. I love your reviews and thoroughness of them. Please keep them coming.
+LOMROB Hard to describe just how amazing this pistol is, isn't it? Congrats on the purchase, and nice choice on the sights!
I saw one of these yesterday! I like it! In time, I will try one out.
Is $800 a good price?
it's a cool gun but for how gigantic it is the capacity is piss poor at best! so many other pistols that are much much better for the same roles as the p225 (aka the p229 / p320)
It's the trigger. Tender is all I can describe it. It draws back like a knife through butter and you don't pull you're shots. The reset is unreal. Hopefully Sig will come up with a 10 or 12 capacity magazine.
Nice shooting. Thanks for the review.
I got a sticker with my P320SC!
great review and Thanks for posting Sir.
Hope I enjoyed the first hundred? I loved it!
i like sig sauer...... e troppo la migliore......i love the sig sauer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, that reset looks smooth.Very nice!
You are correct. Some say the DA shot is a "throw-away." That is an idiotic statement. If you cannot shoot a DA shot well, you need some practice. I've only been shooting 3 years, and for me, I'm estimating there is less than 1" difference in the DA and SA.
great review, can't wait to check one out. how was the grip in the hand? is it long enough so the pinky is hanging?
+Snowog183 That's not an issue at all, as say, for the way it might be in a P938 or P238. The grip is full size. It's amazing! Best ergos on any handgun I've ever held. Even better than my P226 w Houge G10s and that's saying a lot!
Just ordered mine. Held it in the Sig Pro Shop in NH and had to have one.
Itd be cool if this was offered in 40
Nice video! I picked up one in my LGS today and loved the feel of it, and the trigger felt great. I'm wrestling with whether I want to pay that much. I probably will.
I did buy it, and really like it. Outstanding trigger, great accuracy.
I'm surprised there aren't more reviews on this gun. I know it's a bit large and heavy for 8+1, as you discussed, but it's a shooter. Mine has been great and I've been cc it daily, it's the rotation. BTW, excellent review!
+Bunk Man Thanks. I do know one very high profile writer that has one, and I'm sure he'll do a review at some point but it has been oddly quiet. Timing may be part of it, but also because it stands outside the mold. But you and I know better, eh? Shooter is right! I can't even look at it without picking it up and holding it. :-)
+Justin Opinion Give it time. Reviews will come filing in. There's a lot of forum chatter and comments that are largely upset for it not being backward compatible (mags etc.) and the price tag On paper it's somewhat hard to place where the reissue 225A fits best. I felt conflicted as it didn't make "sense" to place in my line up next to my 226. But after handling one I just had to get it!
I love the metal on metal sound
I shoot like you do all over lol. I went through about 600 rounds in DA only a couple of years ago in my 226 and I've gotten to where I almost prefer the DA. So I agree that's nonsense to suggest the first shot is a throw away. For me my first shot is very often one of my best.
Enjoyed the review, you need to show off your collection some time as it seems you've put together a very fine one.
Thanks for the comments. I will actually have a few P226s out soon because I have new magazines to test. Any excuse is a perfectly good one!!
Justin Opinion No doubt, I just recently found your channel and really enjoy it. IMO you've got really good taste in guns (I've been shooting SIG's for 30 years) and you've put together some entertaining and informative videos.
Keep them coming...
Best regards,
Thanks much. I'll try.
Sig dropped the ball on the capacity. That size gun should hold more rounds.
Thats why they make the 228/229
@@tadbarker7082 Agreed...but why not slim down the 225?
Great video. The P225a1 is on my list.
+Andrew MARGOLIN Thanks!
stamped ? are you sure
Have you found any holsters with retention for the P320 line?
+Turner Humphrey Haven't looked. If they don't have them yet I'm sure it's only a matter of time. I'd expect that Serpa will make one.
+Justin Opinion have you tried holsters for other Sigs?
Beautiful
save yourself money and find yourself a older one!!!
+jim harbin Are you giving dating advice? ;-)
+Justin Opinion no....lol.. I just read my comment....lol
Love it!
Sphinx > Sig
Love Sig! I have the M11-A1 and it is fabulous. Can't beat the trigger...the reset is amazing.
+Paul R im thinking of either getting the p225 or the p228(m11-a1). you have any rrecommendations?
Paul R
Stop guy. You sound like your talking about a new purse you just bought. Its fabulous? If you have low T the Doc will you a shot for that. That will bring Fabulous up to...Its and outstanding firearm. the trigger pull is smooth with no stacking and the reset is short and audible. Not "amazing". Just messing with ya dude but really the descriptors of a firearm should never, not even if your a woman, should they be "fabulous or amazing".
Just got back from the range. I was shooting fabulously due to the fabulous trigger.
I give up. I guess the days of men are gone and the metrosexual is in. You probably wear skinny jeans. If there is a god stop the progression now before all the, What you all call men turn into women with a penis.Join the military are something... Fabulous. Jesus H Christ.this world is going to hell in a hand basket.. I want to be there when you call the trigger pull fabulous in the presents of a marine. LOL
Oorah! Dad served in Iwo Jima...Marines are #1!
Just got one feb 2019 $599shipped
Never see them at M.S.R.P. Around 8-900 in most places. Just bought one for 894.00 out the door.
I have the P6
Way to Expensive !