CRAZY NEW SPIDER-MAN 4 REVEALS EXPLAINED!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Marvel fans, we need to talk about some new crazy rumors about Spider-Man 4 with Tom Holland! I wanted to clear up some confusion about reports of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield in Spider-Man 4, BUT the new stuff about the Venom Symbiote and the way this will connect to Tom Holland is way more crazy than that! THIS WILL BE SO WILD IF KEVIN FEIGE DOES THIS!!!
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Kraven killing Spider-Man then seeing him crawl out of a grave with the symbiote would hit like crack!
Wasn’t that actually part of the 3 part Spider-Man movie that the TH-camr did, I believe it’s called something like “if I were to write the Spider-Man trilogy” or something like that, surprisingly great storytelling in that video.
Spider Man will get the Symbiote in Avengers Secret Wars
@@UnseathedDeityyeah by some guy named Troy but I doubt they’ll go as dark as that yk how Disney and Sony are
@@brandonalbaldon2781not true
Never mind, to easy
Kraven's last hunt, and setting up the symbiote for secret wars is solid. Hopefully, leaks won't ruin this. It just makes sense. Stick with that and a good story. Stick the landing.
It wouldn't make sense for Kraven to tarnish Peter's name since it literally happened with Mysterio. That'd be boring and too much bullying Spiderman? The symbiote bringing Peter back to life.. well that's exciting for sure!
I feel like there's a difference between outing the Peter secret identity vs making just the hero identity look bad.
Framing Spider-Man for a crime he didn't commit has been done many ways over the years so I'd actually like to see how it's done in the MCU.
It's kingpins m.o. and he did it to Peter Parker in the animated series. Would make sense to frame the hero per Kingpin.
yeah this plot sounds like it would work. I was going to stop and insert my thoughts about Kingpin having already doubled Daredevil with Bullseye and how there is precedent for him to do it to Spider-man but i waited and true to form you added it in there.
In fact this would make Kingpin even closer to being the one who could start the Dark Avengers.
It's going to be a little hard for him to start the Dark Avengers if he's in turn outlawing vigilantes. But I guess maybe his stance is only against those that have not come forward and signed the Sokovia Accords. So while he'll be against the street heroes he may very well use his opportunity as mayor to start up his own Dark Avengers to help hunt down the vigilantes leading into a unCivil War.
But what if instead of setting up Kraven to trash Spidey's reputation, he in turn puts him on the Dark Avengers team? With no one knowing that Peter is Spider-man provided his death is kept hushed up, it would be pretty easy for the Kingpin to have Kraven unmask to the world and sign the Accords claiming to be Spider-man.
On a different note, I don't know how I feel about Tom Holland's Spider-man and Tom Hardy's Venom both having a symbiote from the same symbiote when they face off.
I don't know if we'll get a Battleworld with the Secret Wars storyline but it would be cool if it's decided that Tom Holland cannot keep the symbiote and puts it away in an alien machined on Battleworld prior to the conclusion of Secret Wars.
Either that or he gives it to the FF for holding. And we later discover it gets loose and finds either this world's Venom (if Hardy is done with the role) or finds a legless Flash and becomes Agent Venom.
I would also like to see (if Hardy stays in) if they might use Mr. Negative to turn him into Anti-Venom.
Dude, yes
I would love this to happen!
the symbiote bringing peter back to life has is such a sick idea
If this does happen, We gotta have Keanu Reeves play The Beyonder in Secret Wars. I also have a feeling this could possibly lay the potential ground work for some kind of film adaptation of Maximum Carnage mixed With King in Black. That would be the best way to revive carnage and give him the R rating treatment he should've got the 1st time around.
Haha, kinda called this in my comment on your last video.
We're gonna get Jackman, Hardy, Holland, Reynolds, and RDJ (and maybe Evans) all in one frame...
Kraven killing Spider-man and the symbiote crawling underground to save him would be so dark and so cool to see. I just would find this hard to believe for a few reasons. Knowing Sony they want to merge their SSU and MCU together so Arron Taylor Johnson would play Kraven and Quicksilver in the MCU and we all know Kevin Feige wouldn’t like that idea. Also I heard Scorpion and Kingpin were going to be the main villains which would be awesome so where would Kraven come in at? And aren’t they saving the symbiote for Secret Wars. Regardless I’m VERY excited for Spider-man 4!
so…this little goop of venom, which was somehow impervious to dr stanges spell, is gonna crawl from mexico to ny, happen to find parker’s grave site and then go in and push out the embalming fluid and regrow his organs? god i hate sony
Everything is taking place after all the multiverse crap involving Loki and Deadpool and spiderman, I'm sure they can think of something
Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 ps5
him calling the mcu 616 is actually driving me insane
People are so excited for Spider-Man 4, there's all this speculation, all these rumors, so much hype, and yet the movie still won't be coming out for quite a few years....last I checked it's still barely in the writing phase! Now I'm not saying people shouldn't be excited for the movie but I think we all need to just chill and let the movie actually come out of the writing stage before we all go absolutely wild for it y'know?
They haven't even announced they are making it yet.
They are COOOKKKKINGGGG
Do they not even care about story telling anymore? they must make a film where Kraven comes in and does whatever and then comes back later to do last hunt make him recurring
Kraven’s last hunt this will be epic!
Ngl Kraven killing Spider-man and the symbiote saving him would be so awesome but a big part of me wants them to go the comic accurate route and have Spider-man get the symbiote in Secret Wars
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I be so confused how people still watch movies nowadays after knowing all the leaks and spoilers. I guess people don’t like to be surprised or shocked anymore idk how y’all do it
This would be unreal
This has to be the greatest leak for a Spiderman film besides no way home
This sounds awesome. They should have u write for MCU movies cuz this sounds better then any thing they have been doing
This reminds me of Insomniac Spider-Man 2 and Troyoboyo’s pre-write of Spider-Man 4. While this would all be cool, I have little to no faith this is real.
because of the fact symbiotes have like a hivemind of knowledge, maybe venom can remember who spiderman is and think tom spiderman is tobey spiderman or somethin and be like hey that guy killed one of me
I would like if we got a scene of them just hanging out on the phone just giving eachother spider-advice
This movie idea sounds so cool
All seems to be working out. Where is a true MCU deep/dark/focused Punisher in all this stuff. Some people needs a little attitude adjustment...Throw in Daredevil, Luke Cage, etc.
Kraven killed Peter in the PS5 game. Maybe they were prepping us?
Why do you keep referring the MCU as the 616 universe, when it isn’t? The MCU is earth-19999, not earth-616. 616 is the main (og) comics universe.
When Dropping bombs like this you really have to give a source 😂
I can't wait for this movies
#MakeTASM3
I’m all about this action.
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It's been a minute ❤
Yes to all of this!!!❤
This would be dope. BUT… grain of salt because… not to spoil… but this feels like someone is just ripping from Spider-Man 2 PS5… feels like fan fiction
holy shit if they actually do the kravens last hunt im going to be so hyped for 2025, it was definitely one of the craziest, and one of my favourite comics.
The multiverse stuff just doesn’t make sense to do in Spiderman 4. Now doing something where he dies and the symbiote saves him and multiverse shenanigans in future projects, I’m here for that.
You are the Mike Zeroh of Marvel
It could give Fisk more of an edge if Peter starts using the symbiote, even more so if kraven pretends to be him
We still need scorpion he’s long over due
Every video you make you somehow throw in Andrew Garfield and Toby Mcguire.
I hope marvel doesn’t mess up Spider-Man four like they did Thor four.
This might actually work
So basically the spiderman game on PlayStation story line
0:37 there’s lots of stories to adapt
I’m not a comics guy . I appreciate the artwork and loved Snyder flicks and long slow burn movies.
But I really enjoy worldbuilding. The family friendly stuff is not my thing but if I could do 1 movie I’d want it to be a Tom Holland Spidey movie with an Edward Norton Hulk.
If they link tobey and andrew it would be a nice idea to just make like tom calls them for advice ot smthng not actually showing up
Good thing I'm sitting on the toilet as I watch this 😅
do we think adam scott is playing ben parker in madam web?
I hope tobey makes the pterodactyl joke about his venom
Maybe it’s just me, but if I was Kevin I’d tell them that if they want those villains in the MCU they have to let their universes get destroyed. If he gotta put in work to make those villains work keep them from having to go back to what they were when it was Sony led
My feelings are hurt 😔
Oh frick yeah
i'd love to see peter and eddie team up against Carnage from peter's earth
Bro if morbius shows up in spiderman 4 they might as well just release on Netflix
I admire your enthusiasm, but this is Sony we’re talking about. I really wish these rumors were true. But I just don’t see it happening. Not saying that it won’t be a good movie, but I don’t think that things will work out the way you said it. I hope I’m wrong. It sounds like an awesome plot if it’ll go that way. 😉
If they aren’t gonna do heaven’s last hunt… well now they should
So here's my idea for Venom 3 and a way to bring him into the Multiverse.
Have an alternate Spider-man fused with the Carnage Symbiote aka Spider-Carnage lead the charge of an incursion with a planet of Symbiotes.
Have Venom join forces with Mulligan's Toxin and have him spit out the Carnage symbiote he ate and presumably re-absorbed and have him give it to Dane DeHaan's Goblin from Amazing Spider-man 2. If Sony won't go so far as say that Venom's world and Andrew Garfield's world are the same universe then I guess they could always just say he crossed over to Venom's world like Vulture crossed over to Morbius's world. (which was stupid).
Anyways this could have Venom team up with Red Goblin (Green Goblin + Carnage). Maybe throw in Morbius and Vulture for good measure and any others for a spur of the moment team up against Spider-Carnage and a planet of Symbiotes.
And if Sony really wants Venom 3 to profit in the billions like Spider-man, they should kow tow to Disney to let some of those symbiotes being alternate members of either the Avengers and/or X-Men.
This could also be considered a true Maximum Carnage only with Spider-Carnage instead of Cletus Kasady Carnage. They could have alternate versions of Shriek, along with Doppleganger, Carrion and Demogoblin (if a deal with Disney for some symbiote covered Avengers/X-Men can't be worked out).
Of course it would be nice to have an actual Spider-man fighting alongside Venom in this plot but we could have others like Black Cat, Prowler (Hobie Brown), Nightwatch, Rocket Racer, and more including the Sinister Six. It would have to be an all hands on deck battle.
Of course... nothing of this is never going to happen 🤣... the villain of Venom 3 is Knull! But yeah... keep dreaming 🙂
@AlessioAlessi yeah I know. If only fans could make the movies, right?
Fuck what Sony is doing bro they should cast their own kraven
Oh my god. When I heard “kill Tom Holland’s Peter Parker”… my heart *dropped.* I swear… Marvel. If you fucking kill Tom’s Spider-Man… I… I honestly don’t know if I will be alright.
Please don’t let them put the Spider-Man suit on Craven, the hunter, because that storyline was already done with Mysterio. We already saw Mysterio frame, Peter Parker for his a murder and get a bad name and have to do the spell and all that. We’ve already seen Spider-Man turned into a bad guy by a villain. Please don’t repeat that again.
"a lot of fans just want Tom holland as his own peter parker, and you can see why" CHANGED YOUR TUNE FROM THE LIVESTREAM HUH
I don't want any if this multiverse crap, just give me a good story....I think kingpin hiring kraven is a good idea and sure adding the symbiot at the very end to save Peter from nearly dying is cool, but the plot shouldn't get any crazier then that. The rest of the movie should focus on character work, maybe introduce Gwen and harry if possible, show Peter struggling with uni, work as a photographer and being spiderman etc.....I think they should really lean into making him a very classic spiderman with a classic cast of characters, we're all pretty sick of iron man Jr
Hopefully it would be actual Kraven the Hunter and not kraven The animal rights activist. The game did it perfectly.
nice vid but the mcu is actually earth 199999 the comics are 616
Someone find the link for the photo at 2:35 pls
I have yet to crap my pants Den, this was false advertisement
Why does Sony think they need some sort of grab ITS SPIDER MAN even if it’s horrible it will make a lot of money
So they could potentially have a web of shadows movie that leads up to knull
Looking forward to classic, more grounded, man on the street; quintessential Spiderman.
My money is on Scorpion making his long awaited return. Perhaps he and Vulture escape the prison
Kraven destroying spider-man's fame would be retreading into the same thing they did with Mysterio again. Why would spider-man's story circle around so hard on how he's perceived? is he an influencer? doesn't have anything else going on in his life but to worry about how the public sees him? is that all the character can say about life? why would be his karma public opinion?
Also if showcasing toys would be enough sony verse would be successful, phase four would have been successful... Throwing ketchup around doesn't make a hamburger
They literally cannot screw up the symbiote suit, if thru somehow manage to ima be so mad
A lot of fans doesn’t want Andrew and Toby back on screen together in spider man 4? WTF did they do this poll? I call BS I didn’t see any vote being cast… pretty damn sure the movie would be lit if the writing made sense. Like seriously who did they ask!? The marvel execs? Or did they ask the same people who thought it would be a great idea to have a all female cast together for the next X-men project???
This sounds awesome
I’m all for it and excited for whatever they bring us and I kind of feel madam web is gonna be crazy cause I know they all link together somehow but venom and Tom holland Spider-Man will be cool he’s almost 30 so sony better hurry it up lol 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hope tom Holland is in beyond the spiderverse even if it's just a cameo or brief appearance
Its real funny how Tom Holland gets more immature in every film. What a character acr mark.
Dam, this kinda has me hyped again about the future of the MCU
JOSH! Why aren’t you writing movies??? I want all of this to happen so bad :(
What if the Spider-Man “murderer” from the morbius trailer was meant to be kraven?
Holy
My pants!
I hope to see venom 3 ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉😅
Sony needs to just let their venom be in the mcu , their venom and morbius actor just be different morbius variant mcu variant same actor and Have Tom Hardy’s venom be from his own universe cuz that it’s own venom character that can grow into God venom king of the symbiotes one day
Not another death reversed. Arrrggghhhh!!! Have you been reading Xmen? Kraven's Last Hunt had him buried alive, NOT brought back to life. This would really suck!
Objection: Hearsay
It ain’t 616. It’s 19999. 616 is comic universe
This would slap! capital S
Finally some cool shit
i was thinking venom will faces andrews spiderman not toms
The mcu isn’t 616! It’s 199999!
They CANNOT USE KRAVEN, Its owned by Sony. Ugh
What in the AI is that thumbnail lol
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It makes 0 sense 🤣! But yeah, we heard 10000 different rumors about this movie and probably we will hear more others till the official announcement is done. So no... I will not believe to anything at all! 😀
Aaron Taylor Johnson wad quick silver in age of ultron, remember josh?
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idk what i was expecting from spider-man 4 but this definitely wasn’t it and i really don’t think that this story would sit well with the fans after watching mcu spider-man literally go toe to toe with someone like thanos and then dying to someone like kraven? i’ll pass on that one.
Kraven is literally as strong as spiderman. They also show it in PS5 spiderman 2
@@dragon9slayer250 okay and? that’s one thing that’s close to spider-man’s level but he’s been fighting SUPER villains and other avengers since he was 15, and one can only assume he’s been getting better and better since then ,it would be so stupid to have him be killed by someone who’s not worthy of killing him lmao, idc how good of a hunter he is spider man is a SUPERhero
Symbiot can’t come early tho