Darth Vader Vs Cere Fight Scene 4K (2023) - Star Wars Jedi Survivor
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I love the subtle shift as she dies, transitioning from the actual fight to Cal seeing a force echo of her death, while holding her dead body.
Shit. That would suck. Being able to just see how your loved one died?
I actually didn’t even notice that holy shit
you think she's talking to Cal, but she's actually just saying the names of the two most important people in her life before she dies.
@@Matt-bg5wgdidn't know my side order came with an extra helping of **pain**
Means after the screen blacks out when Cal got pushed, Cere is already dead and we're watching this fight
4:25 The revelation that this entire scene was actual Cal seeing Cere's final memories through psychometry all along, is beautiful storytelling.
I never realised that!
oh man I'm dumb
I thought it was some sort of long-distance mind reading
after Cal was knocked out in the Bode fight, I thought he got to witness Cere's last words in the distance, and that Cere saw Cal too in her final moments
it just being a force echo hits so much harder
You just completely changed everything for me about this scene, and somehow even for the better. Thank you.
And not just the scene, but all the gameplay as Cere
At first I thought it was her hallucinating as she died, blurring the passage of time between her duel with Vader and when Cal found her
Number 1 mistake against vader, you can beat him within an inch of his life.. but once you jump up in the air and preform a somewhat similar move to obi wan… you’re fucked… vader learned his lesson 😂
lmfo he is a slow learner
nice one lmao
Anakin was the one who jumped
@@plebtile3347 Yeah? Read the comment again.
@@plebtile3347 He learned from his mistake so he learned how to counter it.
I love how the fight goes from Vader noticibly not trying very hard to finally having to put in effort to actually beat her
Yeah...once she dropped the flaming archive on him his anger started fueling his power. Even in the fight he got WAY more aggressive, chaining together rapid combos and unblockables. Playing it on grandmaster was SO fun. One mistake and it was back to the start.
Exactly
It has always been one of Anakin's greatest flaw to be arrogant. This is why he lost his legs 😂
@@Brilleetoile Well, it was for every sith in SW lore. Noone is invincible.
Actually thats vader’s biggest weakness xd
1:03 I love the way how Vader says “And I have come for you.” Like he is the Grim Reaper of SW and Cere cannot escape her fate this time round
100%, last time it was an encounter, THIS TIME Vader came all the way for Cere. Imagine the most poweful Sith Lord travelling across the galaxy to hunt you down…
@@Czmdk9384d makes me worry for Cal, he is also someone who managed to escape from Vader, and went on to become one of the Empires most wanted, with his face on wanted signs in Coruscant and all. I imagine Vader is probably foaming at the mouth for a chance to kill him personally.
@@zoid_on_youtube I hope we (playing as Cal) die by Vader’s hand in the final boss fights in part III !
I like it to the way, the conversation went, was like they were personal enemies or something, and they were just finishing the score
I dont want Cal to die i hope Cal lives and he just hides from the empire and has a normal life with Merrin Cal is one of my favriote characters i want him to at least have a peacful ending.
vader learnt how to stop the high ground then
Sir what are you doing here?????
Darth Bane would have kick Vader´s a..
@@dragontear1000 true
And used it again on Luke in return of the jedi
@@dragontear1000Possibly
I love how Vader showed cere some respect after his fight, instead of just cutting her down he let her live her final moments
Indeed, even he had to admit he hadn’t had that kind of resistance in while. Also, it’s the perfect opportunity for him to learn from that experience out of many Sith.
@@darthdracul8372and he actually did learn
Honestly I saw it as Vader admitting to himself that he was nearly bested. Normally he would talk mad shit to someone as they died or after. He just took his ass beating and went home with a hard fought W lol
@@DaFookas call him whenever you want, but he has some little honour. Something that he actually took from Anakin, even though he denied him.
Possibly the first real contest Vader has had since his rebirth.
Cere's mastery of her fear makes her so much stronger than the terrified scattered Jedi he's used to hunting.
This is set around the same time of the Obi wan kenobi series so Vader had a hell of a year fighting two very powerful Jedi
Cere, Kenobi, Ahsoka and eventually Luke were the only jedi to give Vader a run for his money.
It's basically why most Jedi got bodied by Grievous and Vader it's because they never overcame their fear
@@hello-gy6xk there was a master in the comics that dog piled him when he was still getting used to his suit, but still those are the only ones that gave prime vader a run for his money.
@@DeeDeeDeeeee yeah kirak infila was dope, only got beaten because of his humanity, dope comic
Fanboys that are crying about Vader having to actually fight aren’t giving Cere any respect. She is clearly an extremely powerful Jedi Master and probably one of the few who would give Vader a decent fight. She isn’t some Padawan from the clone wars, she was a full fledged master before Order 66.
They be acting like he's a god, he's still Anakin burnt in a suit, the emperor nerfed him in purpose, even the grand inquisitor gave him a good fight
If he was feared, it was for killing especially random Jedis, who also gave him a good duel in the comics, he rarely killed Jedis like Cere or Obi Wan
Exactly! And they’re acting like this isn’t a rematch and she hasn’t had 5 years to prepare for it.
Not to mention, he still won. Showing Cere to have grown significantly and still loose makes Vader scarier than had he just shown up and killed her like it was nothing. Star Wars can't win sometimes.
@@Dan1el7493 Just saying: the emperor nerfing him is Legends and the Grand Inquisitor did not gave him a good fight. Vader was just testing his new suit (which was literally said during the duel) and ended it quickly after that.
I do agree, Cere is obviously immensely powerful, especially taking into consideration her Jedi master rank, but there are a few things about the fight that bothered me from a lore perspective. The first is that vader's suit is fireproof, so him being damaged by the eruption of flame doesn't make much sense. The second is that in the Kenobi series, Vader is shown to be equal at least to obi wan kenobi in power, if not stronger. He lasts much less long against Cere than against Obi Wan, and I personally think that that doesn't really make sense. Vader is more skilled and has more raw power than Cere, and I personally choose to believe the headcanon that he just underestimated her because she was so weak last time they fought. Cere is certainly a powerful Jedi though, don't get me wrong.
This whole sequence was peak Star Wars storytelling for me. From beginning to end. I mean. I can truly and honestly say I saw absolutely none of this coming.
This game had a nice story, everything perfect!
Stupid peak!
I liked the fight but why is Darth Vader getting bitched by everyone now? First obi now cere. Vader is supposed to be that guy and they did him well in the last game but kinda bitched him here
@@spaghettisauce1104 Cere and Obi-Wan are JEDI MASTERS, Vader is not invencible like everyone believed
@@_Papitobi_ and Vader is a sith Lord who beats Jedi masters before even having his morning coffee. Jedi master doesn't carry the weight you think it does. Not to mention he's the chosen one and had more raw power than anyone especially at this time. Dude spends 20 years hunting and killing multiple Jedi masters. The fight was amazing till the end. It would have been a good way to show cere was super powerful but still keep Vader as the oppressor he is.
After this fight, I updated my lightsaber: Half Junda, half Tapal. Honoring the two masters who gave their lives to ensure that Cal and the future Jedi could survive.
That way you carried 3 legacy of Jedi Master
1. Jaro Tapal's Lightsaber
2. Cere Junda's Lightsaber
3. Eno Cordova's BD-1
Vader will kill cal eventually 🤓
@@JPatternsIIINot if Cal’s just chilling on his dude ranch on Tanalorr with Merrin, Kata, Greez, and BD-1 throughout Andor/Rebels/Rogue One/the OT, he’s not.😉
I did the same and changed it to the same Crystal she used
@@JPatternsIII with further training cal may be able to beat vader and force him to retreat, cere almost won and he was taught everything she knows, with even more training he may be able to push the empire and vader away.
The fact that Vader personally came to deal with her shows how she has become more powerful
I mean Vader love dealing with Jedi in general even if they are padawans
@@swolewalker😂 no padawans, Vader Loves powerful knights or masters
@@M_03256 Nono, no padawans, knights or masters, the only fights Vader fights is against younglings, his arch nemesis.
@@swolewalkerehh. Anyone who the inquisitors can't beat
@@swolewalkercere was no Padawan, she was a Jedi master
I loved how this whole sequence where we play as Cere is actually Cal sensing what happened after finding her dead body.
wow
I just... The fight. The cinematography of it. The music. Damn.
And the subtle warning from his Master: "Tirila". She knew he would be devastated from this loss. She tried to give him a last lecture. Don't go the same way her Padawan did. Stay good. Face your pain and the darkness. Don't let it consume you. What a perfect star wars character. She will be missed.
I think what I love the most about this fight is how they did Vader’s lightsaber combat. Very rarely is the actual moves so eye catching that it actually draws my attention to them and not just when and how to react. Every movement and action of Vader’s feels immaculate, purposeful, each swing and strike leading into the next. On phase 3 it shifts into double time, he never stops except for brief moments, he mixes in force enhanced strikes with his normal ones without even changing the stance which if we didn’t have the red shift we’d be hit with something we wouldn’t be able to block completely unexpectedly. They truly make him a master lightsaber combatant and his lightsaber fighting actually looks like a true master of sword fighting.
and to be honest we can see his Djem So that is mix of slow and fast FCKN BIG swings in the most part but in the phase 3 he mixes it with some great riposte's and remises
Was a good fight, Cere really didnt stand a chance until she surprised him with that bookcase explosion. Very well played. Since she couldn't over power him she had to play smart. Without the bookcase moment vader would have toyed with her until he eventually killed her
i agree
Ayy I’m a heavy vader fan too but you gotta give credit when it’s due. Cere never did stop fighting and got farther then most. Remember last game he swiped left on her like a 3 on tinder and she was bout gone. 🤣
@@Brawlityyplus she was marginally disconnected from the force at the time compared to now
@@MaajidM yup. In fallen order she only got good hit on him under anger. She tamed that in this game and had a good battle with vader. Vader is that guy ofc he doesn’t die here but few Jedi put him that close to defeat like that
Well, in the end, even when you defeat him, we can't change the fact that Vader still kills her anyway...
Vader walked away from that fight L I M P I N G
This duel was an instant favorite for me. Cere was an amazing character, and she will be missed. She really gave Vader the work, and I’m glad it was done so well.
Yeah I love Cere as well, she already got humiliated and owned by him in the Previous game, I was so relieved she wasn't disrespected here and died like a champ
@@hayhay1999 its good they let her dish out some disrespect of her own
Don’t get the love for this fight. The decision to have us play as cere was so bad should’ve been cal fighting vader. I mean we’ve grown with this character for 2 whole games and we have to fight vader as cere? Either way the fight shouldn’t have lasted long. Vader defeated multiple masters at once in the temple and he walks away limping from this? Stupid asf
@@Floydtimbdujbk_ Vader defeating multiple masters at once in the temple is exactly why it wouldn't make sense to face him with Cal. He's not remotely close to strong enough.
But Cere shouldn't be strong enough either, and this fight makes it seem like Vader avoided her stab by sheer luck.
@@bard6184 you missed my point entirely I didn’t want a long fight if even a fight at all but if they really wanted a fight it should’ve been cal and it should’ve been 1 phase of Vader toying and coming out on top easily
You know Vader HAS a shit to give, when he uses his saber with both hands.
A small but awesome detail about him. When he stops using a single hand and uses both with this lightsaber, that's when you know he's taking things seriously. That and of course doing incredibly heavy single handed swings like the move he opened up his second duel against Obi-Wan with.
This was definitely the highlight of the game imo. I spent the entire game getting my ass beat on Jedi Master, so having the power trip as Cere was sick, and then having that power trip come to a screeching halt was even cooler.
I don't know how hard jedi master is but grandmaster was pretty stressful at times. Just beat it today. That last fight was fun yet challenging.
@@jdennis867 😂😂
@@jdennis867grandmaster is a nightmare
Grandmaster and master difficulties are night and day when compared
@SOR_Revan I beat grandmaster not too long ago. It was hard af but soul games are still harder imo.
@@jdennis867man it took me about an hour to beat vader on jedi master, i don’t even wanna THINK about grandmaster
There will be those who will say that they nerfed Darth Vader, but remember that Cere was a Jedi Master who had already overcome her traumas, the strange thing would have been that she did not put up a decent fight
you dismiss the fact that people dont acknowledge jedi masters and fanboys over vader cause he mostly purges all jedi like its a peace of cake
@@Natha_KunCere has tapped into the darkside. One of her abilities is something Cal gets after tapping into the darkside himself
Vader was obviously toying with her
@@xshandy5812 at first until the bookshelf fell on him
@@xshandy5812 he was definitely more so underestimating her but at the same time the fact that he come for her speaks a lot about how powerful she had become. Vader never personally shows up unless someone is worthy of a fight. If u notice in the fight he starts using the two hand grip when he respects cere. And also even after he implies her he doesn’t do anything after that.
Vader struggled imo, because he underestimated Cere. He wanted cere to use Cere's fear against her, yet she tamed the darkside, meaning she conqured her fears because of vader torturing her. We see in the beginning he used one hand to fight, then when he got annoyed, he switched to two hands, and outsmarted cere because she got too confident which lead to her demise.
It's interesting that Cere outsmarted Vader too by luring Vader into a position where she can drop a flaming bookcase on him. That weakened him so that even if he fought seriously, Cere would still have a serious chance of winning. And then Vader used Cere's overconfidence against her.
This is a great take
I don't think it was her confidence. Her last word was Trilla and her last words were "Avenge me." Cere saw what she thought was an opening and chance to do just that for her former student and jumped the gun
@@brianlafontaine3111 yeah, but it's mainly based on interpretation
@@A.jmmmm04 very true
Vader was probably trying to toy with her but he kind of underestimated her so she got the upper hand pushing him into the wall
Nwah my man going all out already
Yeah, i see a lot of people complaining when vader struggles in a fight, but i think because of vader always toying with his opponents, he gives them too much time to eventually get a lucky shot and get the upper hand on him. If he wasn't being such a dramatic show off the fights would probably end a lot quicker, but that wouldn't be very entertaining.
I love the idea of beating the shit out of Vader lmao
@@juipeltje cope
@@DromusTH cope with what?
As soon as that door started creaking, I knew he was gonna be on the other side. What an amazing rematch
I love this game, at first I questioned Cere’s ability to face Vader, but recognising how powerful of a Jedi master she was, it made a lot of sense, and even after all she did, Vader was only wounded.
Actually, within the game you get him literally to within an inch of his life. If Cal had turned up at that point even he could have beaten him. However, under SW canon we know that Vader doesnt die fighting Cere, which is why he doesnt get killed because as the player playing the char Cere could easily have killed him. Sucks when a game follows canon like that.
@@Ryanthusarnot really all she did was slash him a couple times and drop a bookcase on him. Once Vader put in a little effort it was over.
Tbh vader survived an at at dropped on him no damadge i dont get how the flamming bookcases were Ble to harm him
Bro was an inch away from dying. U Vader fans need stop sucking him dry lmao🤣🤣🤣
@@anderecontent Cuz the plot wanted cere to have a good fight with vader💀
I love how vaders strikes get progressively stronger as he wants to end this fight as fast as possible, you could really feel the impact especially in the last phase of the fight when he was covered in flames. Maybe reminds him of the mustafar incident
EDIT: Vader uses his 2 handed grip ONLY if he wants to put an end to a fight and is in rage. Great detail from Respawn.
Cameron Monaghan really deserves all the awards for his acting in this game. The dude was incredible.
All the cast deserve their credit, the Jedi: series has been some of the best star wars stuff recently imo
I love this moment. She knows she cant beat Vader, but shes going to give every breath to slowing him down. He doesnt hold back either, his second and third phases are relentless. Absolutely incredible.
Like a true Jedi would.
@@berniethekiwidragon4382 Exactly. For her there is no better way to put it.
0:41 you can say what you want about how well she fared against Vader but it takes a special level of badass to just taunt him like that
It showcases the amount of progression she had made with herself.
But she said she let go of her fear.
And become much stronger than before.
@@chriscage669 oh I know, I think it's a brilliant fight from a narrative standpoint. Fear is Vader's most potent weapon and she just made herself immune to it which is even more impressive when you consider the fact that she used to be terrified of falling to the dark side again
She held her own because she saw right through the fear he was trying to instill
1:57 when I first played this, I was losing my mind at their stances being a nod to Obi-Won and Vader in A New Hope
People : *Vader got nerfed*.
Me : I am just glad we got to fight the man.
They are wrong.
Cere got more skilled.
And Vader likes playing with his food, leading to him getting burned. Quite, very, literally.
@@operatorchakkoty4257well what do you know. We all know he died in Episode 6 but fighting him was the best moments, better than in Fallen Jedi order
Anyone who complains about how much damage Vader took in the fight clearly haven’t read comics, plenty of people have done decent damage to Vader and he often comes out of fight heavily battle damaged, he may he a force to reckoned with but he isn’t absolutely unstoppable, but he always wins the fight
Lol are u serious? WHo has actually been able to stand up to Vader? I mean besides Luke and Obi wan? Vader ate jedi masters like they were cake after order 66.
@Tyrone Anderson Ahsoka, Boba Fett, Grand Moff Tarkin, even some Royal Guards have all done damage to him
@@tyroneanderson5619 he got careless and ate bookcases that blew up in his face. luck just happened to be in Cere's favor for a bit. and right after that he proceed to own her very quickly.
@@tyroneanderson5619are YOU serious? You must not read the Vader comics cause plenty of Jedi masters gave Vader a run for his money luke Kira’s Infila for example
@@tyroneanderson5619 Yoda, obi-wan (multiple times), mace if he were still alive, Palpatine would straight own him, and Cere if she didn't get reckless
Game of the year just by this fight. Whole game is a masterpiece
So glad to see other people defending the fight lasting as long as it did, seeing so many chalk it up to “oH sHe oNlY dId sO wElL bEcAuSe tHe GAme is WoKE” was so baffling to me.
Cere is a Jedi MASTER and even then I think it’s pretty clear that Vader wasn’t giving the fight his all.
This is right after or before Kenobi, so Vader at this point has grown complacent because he hunted most of the Jedi down. The guy is arrogant and he really almost paid for it in both Kenobi and Jedi: Survivor. It's a miracle he is still alive after being so naive.
@@MalevolentSpirit234it takes place before Kenobi
Nah you’re just part of the problem swallowing disneys woke garbage. Cere got whooped the last game. Stop it just stop.
Fight was nice but it could've ended better, felt like it was a cop out ending in order to portray Vader winning while showing Cere to have an upper hand. There was a way to make Cere shine while still maintaining that oppressiveness that Vader usually brings and this wasn't the way to do it.
Palpatine casually dismantled multiple Jedi Masters in seconds on his own. Being a Jedi Master isn't the label you think it is. That being said I didn't have too many problems with this fight, but I do feel that Vader did underperform a little. Still cool though.
3:46
Vader stumbles. Cere made him actually dual properly. He had a lot of respect for Cere by the end of the fight.
It's why he didn't do a disrespectful blow in the end after landing the initial final shot.
If people are complaining about this fight then they won't like the Vader comics. He loses multiple times to people that aren't even force users
That is 100% WRONG. I read the comics and he barely loses. Dumb comment
@@SportsinNY he gets his ass kicked a lot. He wins in the end but he has had his limbs taken off multiple times and had to overcome that.
@@chazo1367 So true but there will always be someone bigger and badder. He definitely took his bruises but he NEVER lost!!!! Except against Luke and Obi.....
@@junellsnead477 And he only lost to Luke because he was holding back because he was his son.
@@SportsinNY people on here always twist the truth to make it appear as if they're in the right. Dude can lose an arm and a leg but making him lose like he did in this fight makes it look like he was at his limit.
vader getting up after that explosion is 100x more badass than if he cleared her without a scratch, im sorry but yall are crazy
Ikr. Vader’s strong but Cere is often underestimated in her abilities
@@louissykes2406 Hes the chosen one
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443 I don’t care. That doesn’t make him a god
@@louissykes2406 It literally does. The force is the most powerful thing in star wars and he is the forces chosen asset...
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443
If he is a god he wouldn’t have been owned by Kenobi twice. Wouldn’t have been brutally beaten and dismembered multiple times in the comics.
He isn’t a god, he is a machine with insane durability. He took all the damage and still won and kept going. That’s what makes him scary and badass; the ability to just keep coming after all the punishment.
I love how he doesn't gloat after the killing blow or go out of his way to do any further damage. He just goes "aight lol bye" and walks away like he just clocked out of a dishwashing shift
Just completed this part. This was peak star wars i have been craving for years. Cere didn't overshadow vader or girlboss him..just fought her best and had a honest death.
Ah yes vader is so powerful he doesn’t need an exit… just walk straight towards a solid wall with a bunch of pipes… he’s truely the most powerful sith
He will just make new door.
He just had a burning bookcase fall on him. Guy probably doesn't even know where he is 😂
It's because he's a force hallucination.
@@Tran1193bro has brain damage
The way vader just casually walks off is cold.
'Walks' off, she had the guy **limping**
@@BlueJei24 the way vader just casually limps off is cold
i wouldnt call heavy breathing and limping while being on FIRE casual but ok
@@dreemurrprince???? You know Darth vader?????
@@willbaggiins9441 …what?
The only thing i could think during this fight was, "We're only making him angrier."
Everybody know, that this funny red thing on screen isn't Vader's life bar, but Vader's patience bar
Vader could kill anyone in the fandom and still be everyones favorite.
Vader somewhat struggling and beating a skilled opponent is way more badass than him steamrolling everyone he faces. Most fights should be easy yes, but Cere is a Jedi master. You guys want him to be like Saitama beating everyone or what? Thank god you don't write stories if you think that's the right choice for a character like Vader.
Jedi masters or Force users thats LITERALLY training and waiting for vader to come ,theyre either one of the hardest he ever faced in his Jedi purging but at the end of the day he will succeed
Exactly! Leave it to Star Wars fans to find anything to complain about. It’ll be our own fandom that’ll doom us from getting actual good star wars like this.
He didn't exactly struggle, considering the cutscenes are only canon. He pushed her around with the force and toyed with her. Then Cere dropped the debris on him which we know from Rebels that he doesn't really care. She got a hit on him them dived in and got stabbed.
@@fulcrum101 the cutscenes aren’t all that’s cannon, her abilities used and the fight as a whole is canon, you just fill in the gaps of choreography with gameplay instead since it’s not live action
@@guankzmm4176 and the gameplay shows a lot. the fight was trivial for the most part, then the bookcase happened and he goes sicko mode. in fact i would say the whole part before the bookcase was like clearing mobs up to the bogdo, the part afterwards when vader is no longer playing is the real deal.
in short, vader didnt struggle in the fight at all, unless you count him not being careful and eating book explosion to the face.
1:21 “I’ve been waiting” 🥶🥶🥶
Loved playing as Cere her abilities were so fun to use and this fight was amazing
This perfectly highlights Vaders strength, but also cere too. Definitely a great duel
For someone who's biggest fear is burning he always seems to get set on fire then go into beast mode
Cere going down in a blaze of glory and Vader LIMPING away from battle...what a duel that was!
I love how they portray Vader throughout the fight, at first he is confident in his one handed saber style and slowly transitions to his 2 handed style showing how truly powerful cere is as a dualist. The final part where Vader is towering over cere is a nice touch too, in other portrayals of Vader he is show as a slightly above average size man but in reality he’s a staggering 6’2-6’3 Adonis in a black cybernetic suit
Vader was actually around 6'8, it was Anakin who was 6'1-6'3.
Rip Cere a True Noble Jedi
You really get a sense of how big vader is once the fight is over. It looks like vader is sitting down which he's the height of cere before standing up
He just can’t keep away from catching on fire.
0:57 "the inquithitorious"
Lol I didn’t even notice that my first time playing
I know it was a super serious moment but Vader doing a shoulder shuffle to stand up was funny to me for some reason
We got the prequels, which had issues, but still felt like Star Wars. But people shit on those so we ended up getting bad Disney Star Wars sequels that deserved to be shitted on, and now Respawn is actually giving us a story that actually feels like Star Wars, and here we are shitting on it smh.
Even in Legends Vader wasn't invincible and he shouldn't be yes Cere had no chance of winning but the reason she managed to catch him off guard was like any Sith Vader was full of arrogance. People complained about Rey being too OP but complain about Vader not being OP. It's a doubled standard if you ask me
@@azunkor422 Even in Legends? Canon Vader is way more powerful than his Legends version as you can see in the comics etc.
@@TheThonimaan and yet he couldn't kill Chewbacca in one Canon comic. But ultimately it's not about just raw power it's his arrogance that gets him to slip up just like on Mustafar
@@azunkor422 She was OP for no reason though. At least Luke had to struggles to go through before he actually became a threat. Rey was just OP right out of the gate.
@@phillipssteven45 not saying Rey wasn't OP. You can't just pick up a lightsaber for the first time and defeat a fully trained Darkside User. I am just pointing out the double standard. Characters being too OP makes them boring and unrealistic. This goes for all characters except for Abeloth but even she wasn't that invincible as she had to flee all the time
I’ve been a Star Wars fan since I was a child. To everyone that thinks Cere wouldn’t put up a fight. SHE LITERALLY SAID TO HIM HE WAS PREPARING FOR HIM. This lady had 5 years of prep time and still lost calm down.
To Vader lovers (not derogatory): he toyed with her at the beginning and got hurt after she outsmarted him and dropped a few tons of rubble on him. Had he come out swinging right from the get go, Cere would have lost rather quickly. Cere is exceptionally powerful but she knew even she couldn’t take him head on. She worked a plan together while fighting Vader and it hurt him. After that moment we see a big difference in the fight where it’s equal between the two. Vader won (obviously) but he seems to toy with people before actually fighting them. He did the same thing with Obi Wan in the series as well. A few stumbles and Vader still walked away from Cere. It’s ok if Vader takes a hit every now and then. He’s still the most menacing figure in Star Wars lol.
Damn to see cere fight as a true jedi and challange vader was awesome. Goodbye cere we will miss you and hopefully well see more of you in pre jedi survivor content. Disney, are you taking notes? This is how to write a character.
I love when anyone puts up a decent fight against Vader all the fan boys come out saying Vader was nerfed lmao.
In my opinion it’s actually nice seeing people challenge and truly test Vader. It makes him scarier as we have only seen him fight against untrained Jedi for most of the lore.
It’s so dumb, they complain about Rey having plot armor but they just want Vader to be an anime character with no weaknesses
Agree, but I can't blame them either, since the whole thing with vader is that he vipes jedi masters like is easy because he was supposed to be the strongest force sensitive person to have ever existed
Challenge? bro Cere was no challenge to Vader, Vader was toying with her like he does with all his other opponents, he has underestimated a few like Cere But overall Cere was no where close to his level or even giving him a challenge. I respect that Cere fought Vader but only person to really ever bring him close to death was Obi Wan.
@@eagle8760 Vader had to work to beat her, she put up a better fight than almost any other Jedi that Vader fought post-Purge, Cere here showed power equivalent to the upper half of Jedi Council Masters. She hit Vader multiple times, threw him back with the Force, and even somewhat resisted his telekinesis.
This puts her above all Inquisitors, I would say even the Grand Inquisitor.
@@lhd23 Bro.. Right when you said “she put up a better fight than any other Jedi that Vader fought post-purge” that’s when I knew your argument became invalid. Vader never put any work in bro, he toyed with her at first, then got crushed by some rubble, threw that shit off him like nothing and then outplayed her and killed her. Let’s not forget that gameplay doesn’t count as feats or anything. 2. Many Jedi in the comics put a better fight than Cere, and are we just forgetting about Obi Wan and Luke? The only two Jedi who actually brought him close to death. I mean like actual death. I don’t know if you’re joking or not but, she didn’t show any power equivalent to the upper half of the Jedi council. Not even close, she got crushed so fast, and she wasn’t even close in crushing him.
Edit: I didn’t even see your grand inquisitor take.. I just saw it and bro no way you said this… The Grand Inquisitor was literally a Jedi Temple Guard.. The Grand Inquisitor would easily defeat Cere.
3:32 i love the long look Vader gives Cere here. It's clearly entitely a non-verbal way of him saying he's bested her but at the same time this guy is clearly spent. He's absolutely knackered but i feel enjoyed the fight. It's more rewarding for him to crush a Jedi when they fight back. He clearly had fun and i feel like it was a look of "good fight. But i won"
Yk Vader took Cere serious when he had two hands on that lightsaber during the clash. This hit me right in the feels I loved cere, I knew the outcome was going to happen but denial had me in delusion until she went for the "kill." When he was stuck she should've ran man!
Watching Vader stumble and stuggle to stand up and walk off is absolutely masterful.
You're so used to him being this absolute unit that when you see him actually struggle its almost surreal.
I felt at the first moment that I played as Cere that she was a more powerful Jedi than Cal. I was not surprised that she held a decent fight. But damn after Vader was burned, he became a monster, I felt each heavy of his strike. Wonderful scene
I really mourned Ceres death she was a great mentor to Cal and a great Jedi who dealt with her darkness and did not give in to hatred and fear she will be missed 😔
There's this one line he can say during the fight and I think it's "I will be your death, Master Junda" or something along those lines, and idk why, but that line always gives me chills 😂😂
1:56 this part is honestly so cool. Just the two of them standing there with their blades drawn seeing which one will strike first
When the Imperial March hits just right🤌 2:11
I really love Vader's fighting style
I spent the entire game OBSESSED but unable to decide which one was my favourite (1st or 2nd) purely because of how good the Vader cameo in game 1 was then all of a sudden he showed up and it was just the icing on the cake 🎂 😍
I knew Cere was going to die the moment he appeared. After playing as her for this entire sequence, I simply knew it was it. But you bet yourself, I fought like there was another option.
1:33 that music though
My favorite thing about Vader is how he always starts his fights with only one hand holding the saber. He's holding back at first but after Cere damaged him, he began fighting more aggressively with two hands on the saber. This is exactly why I love his fight with Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. He did the exact same thing. This fight was amazing! Peak Star Wars Moment for sure!!
I dont remember Vader using 1 hand ever during Empire. I think mainly in due to the limited technology of the 80s and the clunky suit David Prowess had to wear. But Vader used 2 hands the entire fight during Empire and Jedi
@@callumrangan1061 he used one hand in Empire when he and Luke first started duelling. He went two hands after the point where Luke Force jumped out of the freezing chamber.
I love that you can feel the weight and impact of powerful force users.
I think it's good to see that while Vader & his inquisitors were hunting jedi they encountered some ppl that actually put up a good fight. Vader might have insane force skills & combat skill but there are without a doubt other Jedi & force users out there who have enough battle experience & their own skill to put up a fight.
I've honestly never seen a game capture the essence of Darth Vader better than this. His slow, deliberate yet limited movements, the fact that while limited in mobility, you can tell just how much force is behind them, the way he is forced to slowly clamber up after dealing the finishing blow because he's in such an awkward position. Fucking love this game.
A very honorable achievment, to have got Vader a bit damaged like that, even if it was sure he'd have killed her anyway. A life bar above Vader in a game isn't actually his life bar but rather the remaining time before he murders your @ss off.
Stood 10 toes until he left. That ish gave me chills.
Idk why anyone is mad that Vader struggled here. Cere is a jedi master pre-order 66. She also fought Vader once before so she had time to prepare.
Ofcourse cere would never beat Vader, but injuring him is valid. Vader gets injured a lot, especially in the books. The scary thing about him isn’t just that he’s powerful, it’s that he’ll always come back even from the brink. He can get chopped into pieces, burned alive, stabbed, shot, etc. but he’ll just walk back up to you ready for more.
Cere exploded an entire wall on him, and he just pushed it all away. She slams him to the ground as he’s burning, and he still was able to expertly move to stab her to death. Vader is a monster who won’t stop until he’s dead. You can’t let your guard down for even a second. He’ll see any form of weakness, and if you have any fear you might as well run.
I love Vader’s lines in these games “it is delusion to think your actions have had any consequence”🤣🤣🤣
I personally am not a fan of people claiming Vader should just easily win every single fight he is in. He was still badass here and walked away before she even fell down.
Same here. Darth Vader is a beast, but he’s not a god. Calm down, guys. 😂
bruh Cere is such a random ass Jedi and got vader limping with a few books, this shit makes no sense at all
@@lyugui Cere is a jedi master, she's proved herself enough
@@someone-yx1pm how many masters has vader taken in a single night at the temple raid?
@@lyugui
With the help of clones
After the archives coming down on him Vader started to use his real potential. For anyone saying he was inch from defeat, they are force users he was fully aware of where the lightsaber would hit. It isn't just random luck and even after that vader might look he has no energy but the truth is if they spawned a another cere right there that fight would even be shorter (because he is taking cere seriously this time) and end in absolute victory
I like everything about this fight from the beginning were he toyed with her and after the books were the Game showed that cere is underrated and a very strong jedi master who is smart after that even Vader noticed he has to fight real that was awesome. And I know there are going to be some Vader fanboys who say Vader was nerfed but idc I love the fact that she put up a decent fight which shows her as a respectful Jedi master . Vader is a beast anyway , like it was so badass that he walked away before she even fall on the ground.The music was epic, the effect were epic,the fight scenes were epic ,everything was epic.
I love how the game showed how Cere’s strength grew along with Cal. She went from failing to hit Vader at all with an inquisitor saber to almost beating him in a fight and only losing because she missed and Vader didnt.
Knowing this is the same year as the kenobi show I’d say the reason why Vader struggled so much in this fight is probably related to being so freshly mentally/emotionally unbalanced against a balanced focused and experienced Jedi
3:08 That, is the slow rise of a man realising he needs to stop playing with his food.
Halfway through fight Vader did the fighting equivalent of a gamer leaning forward when shits getting tense, ironically like me playing as Cere, when shit got tense.
the way the symphony kicks in at [4:09] was stunning, the disheartening chords are masterful, especially at [4:37], what a good piece to pay homage to Cere.
Vaders like “fuckkkk, wasn’t expecting that shit”😂
Honestly top 10 Jedi fights for me, really loved this sequence
Vader Fan Here: This was a great fight, people acting like whenever Vader has good fights he doesnt always walk away looking like he played Chicken with Death. Look at the Vader Comics, Kenobi, Rebels against Ahsoka, Vader pushes his bodys resiliance whenever the challenge is there. He quite literally wants to die but wont and cant until Balance is brought. 10/10 fight would watch again.
The boss music played for Darth Vader during that fight.
Cere is amazing and terrifying.
Everything thinks that “Oh Cere could not stand more than second against Vader,” to that I say psh! True Jedi masters that truly let go of their fear would give Darth Vader and Darth Sidous a run for their money.
It’s sort of alludes to the fact of how the light side prevails against the dark side. For all the Siths power they can fall to ones with lesser abilities.
Darth Maul had a similar problem in one of the comics when he fought against a mere Padawan the moment she became one with the force he started struggling.
Thats because Stamina wise a Jedi who awakened their full potential and survive the initial full power sith attacks can very easily win the fight altogether as the Sith will keep getting weaker and tired during the fight from tapping into the dark side, but the Jedi who tap into the force naturally can keep doing so for far longer.
Honestly seeing how powerful Cere has become ever since being tossed aside like a fly by Vader in the last game was awesome
Cere vs Vader is already in my top five duels. She and Obi Wan overcame their fears and the light reached both again. The Dark Side only got advantage using your fears against you. Overcame it and becomes determination against hate. This was beautiful ❤.
Don't forget Kanan.
3:32 that is something straight out of the comics
vader is literally him, I dont understand why they made cere get this close to winning. Movie wise, game wise or comic wise it makes absolutely no sense
First his suit is supposed to be fire proof yet in this game it just got fire damaged second somehow vader didn't protect himself from the falling book shelf even though vader has that force shield ability and that was the only thing that apparently gave cere an edge even though if he wasn't nerfed none of that would've hurt him
Because she’s a former Jedi master who cut herself off from the force, and she eventually learned to let go of her fear. Canonically, this fits with the established lore. The Dark Side is a quick and addictive way of reaching power, while the light side is slower and non-addictive, but the same results can be achieved. She’s just as powerful as Vader, but Vader’s conviction (and plot armor), allows him to always win. Doesn’t mean he’s invincible, just ask Obi-Wan.
Ceres biggest flaw was, that she isn't in a Disney+ series. "It is delussional to think a lightsaber through the stomach have had any consequences."
Even tho cere is powerful I do think the only reason the fight lasted as long as it did was because Vader wasn’t trying at first not saying she wouldn’t have still put up a fight I just do see it going as long as it did
2:25
Cere: backed up against bookshelf thingy
> rolls
> somehow ends up 15 feet away from the bookshelf
Wha??
Genuinely the most heart wrenching part of this game