The WEAKEST STATE of EVERY HERO in Overwatch History (2016-2022)
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I forgot to change some text layers for the date ranges on screen 😰 sorry about that. The verbal commentary with the spoken date range is correct, along with the timestamps here.
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Ad
1:44 - 1) D.Va (May 24 2016 - Jul 19 2016)
3:09 - 2) Orisa (Mar 21 2017 - Aug 29 2017)
5:19 - 3) Reinhardt (May 23 2017 - Jul 27 2017)
6:40 - 4) Roadhog (Jun 20 2017 - Aug 29 2017)
8:23 - 5) Sigma (Jan 11 2021 - Mar 11 2021)
8:49 - 6 ) Winston (May 24 2016 - Nov 15 2016)
10:07 - 7) Wrecking Ball (Jan 6 2022 - Current)
10:38 - 8) Zarya (June 3 2021 - Current)
11:06 - 9) Ashe (Nov 12 2018 - Aug 13 2019)
12:52 - 10) Bastion (Nov 15 2016 - Feb 27 2017)
14:51 - 11) Cassidy (June 14 2016 - July 19 2016)
16:26 - 12) Doomfist (Jan 16 2020 - May 19 2020)**
17:20 - 13) Echo (Jun 3 2021 - Current)**
17:45 - 14) Genji (Aug 13 2019 - Dec 10 2019)**
18:49 - 15) Hanzo (Nov 15 2016 - May 23 2017)
20:22 - 16) Junkrat (Nov 15 2016 - Aug 30 2017)**
21:52 - 17) Mei (May 24 2016 - Sep 2 2016)**
23:37 - 18) Pharah (May 24 2016 - Nov 15 2016)**
24:50 - 19) Reaper (Nov 15 2016 - May 23 2017)
26:17 - 20) Soldier: 76 (Sep 2 2016 - Nov 15 2016)
27:23 - 21) Sombra (Nov 15 2016 - Jan 24 2017)
29:26 - 22) Symmetra (May 24 2016 - Nov 15 2016)
32:09 - 23) Torbjorn (May 24 2016 - Nov 15 2016)
34:28 - 24) Tracer (May 3 2018 - Aug 13 2019)
35:11 - 25) Widowmaker (Oct 29 2020 - Jul 1 2021)
35:57 - 26) Ana (Mar 21 2017 - Nov 16 2017)
37:11 - 27) Baptiste (Jul 1 2021 - Current)
37:37 - 28) Brigitte (Nov 19 2020 - Current)
38:06 - 29) Lucio (Nov 15 2016 - Apr 11 2017)
39:33 - 30) Mercy (Aug 9 2018 - Nov 4 2018)
40:43 - 31) Moira (Aug 31 2020 - Nov 19 2020)
41:51 - 32) Zenyatta (May 24 2016 - Jul 19 2016)
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Doomfist and lucio without rush
Bastion. Still boring as hell, even if you’re dominating as him, it just makes me want to fall asleep playing him. You just sit still and hold left click. If you’re playing against competent players, you’ll end up playing spawn room simulator. I just don’t get how bastionmain does it.
I would say Orisa still feels awful to play. Most of the tanks can walk on you. I always feel like I'd be better off playing one of the other tanks every time I play her. It does feel rewarding to get value from her though
Bastion.
Junkrat for sure. His mines always put both you and players in an upwards arc no matter where the mine is placed (feels clunky when you're trying to put an enemy or yourself in a specific position) and he gets hard countered by ANY flying heroes and almost all hitscan/long ranged heroes. His trap also gets destroyed way too fast against dive splash damage to actually catch anyone, and it's catch hitbox is way to low allowing heroes like Tracer and Genji to just blink and dash over top of it.
actually scrap use to drop from dead allies and from your turret getting destroyed too. it was such a weird mechanic because while ppl were emoting and teabagging between team fights, us torb mains ran around like crack heads going I NEED THIS SCRAP I NEED ALL OF IT lol.
I loved that mecanic. Am I the only one?
@@ShirouTheHero fr. I really miss the old Torb mechanics. Loved the more tfc engineer playstyle instead of what he haves now
Omg I thought I was just misremembering when he talked about it. Thanks for confirming my memory xD
Sigma has never had a weak state cuz he's always on that sigma grind
Hes a Sigma Male
Best comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAOAO
as a sigma male sigma main, I can confirm
Make sense
For Reaper could've also mentioned how he was so loud in his teleport. I think announcing himself was way worse than anything else in his previous kit
"Death comes" yeah but not for red team
He was also vulnerable mid teleport, so whenever he’d teleport and a widow was around it was instant death lmao
He can feel death coning inside of him 💀💀💀
@@chileanyways4517, I had a funny moment once on Numbani once with that.
Teleported on the ledge on last point as a defending reaper and didn't noticed Widow on said ledge.
She headshotted me and started teabagging her graffiti, but miscalculated and left me with 1 hp.
Since she weren't looking at me anymore I killed her immediately.
She had a fun meltown in chat and I was laughing my ass off.
@@GoklasM💀
So, the written text of some date ranges were incorrect on DPS because I copy and pasted the first one to keep the text colour effects but forgot to change each individual one afterwards. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION .
My audio commentary has the correct date ranges, and I'll update the timestamps with the correct date range.
It was a long video, just an oversight on my part. Thanks for understanding ❤
Pls dont beat yourself up over this. Its fiine :)
I thought I was having a stroke, but a good video nonetheless
Inexcusable behavior Mr Q. Your fans demand perfection! Raid should pull their sponsorship!
Putting a lot of effort into a long video comes with oversights like these! Still a great video regardless.
It's not like you had help
A good number of heroes from Doomfist - Pharah show Nov 15 2016 - May 23 2017 despite you saying a different date in the video. Someone missed that before uploading.
confusing me so much.
I know right
It also said “20% slower” on genji even though he said “25% tighter”
2016 Doomfist was horrible to be fair.
Same with echo
Despite knowing what we know now, I miss Year 1 Overwatch, where everyone didn't know better, and were just learning the game and having fun.
The earliest days of a game are always the best. I think Fortnite is a perfect example, solely because nowadays you see so many people playing as if their life depends on it.
@@fiammaorsmth9840 fax, i miss old ow and fortnite
@@fiammaorsmth9840 I dunno man, a few hours ago I got a win in fortnite because this dude was fumbling around in the storm trying to find his way out of someone else's base
The good ol days when Overwatch was at its best and fun
@@Explosivevortex Fortnite is hella hit or miss with the skill based matchmaking. Playing with friends ill have like 4 games with 10+ kills in a row literally dumpstering players who cant build and then immediately go against the best squads to ever touch the game for a few games, and repeat.
For Doomfist, what about the time after one of his earlier nerfs where his moves were bugged and his biggest weakness was a slightly curved surface?
His biggest weakness is himself.
you mean current doomfist?
@@justinpennington6680 wow you kit for 2 years
Yeah fr I remember that and the punch nerf required very precise punches
@@justinpennington6680 you quit because a busted character got the treatment of every other busted hero hahaha keep abusing a busted character because in the rank your in he probably is
that moment when karq actually listens and makes a video on the weakest state of every hero 💀
I know this isn’t the right place to talk about “Heroes being broken”. But, I had so much fun playing as Symmetra when she used to have Photon Shield and Photon Projector beam-latcher. Most of time in matches, I used the shoot the shield in front of me while I’m beaming the opposite side. So, I’m basically was protected while melting enemies with high building damage without any problems nor damage.
Fun and stupid times.
I think the game would be more fun if they kept their original support philosophy and didn't just reduce the entire role down to: healer
@@suppmydiff3257 as a support main i totally agree. mercy, ana(ult), and lucio(kinda) is pretty much all we got in that category. I would love a hero that is more about pushing (like how sym was) or temp shield and other stuff.
@@suppmydiff3257 yeah I wish supports in overwatch were more like in league. Where they can be healers, or cc machines, or casters. It would be really cool if overwatch had a squishy support focused on cc
@@zanerobbins7604 NO PLS
@@zanerobbins7604 Less CC on overwatch pls
Couple other points about OG Sym: turrets couldn’t be thrown, you had to physically place them on a surface. You could deploy six, but you could only set three on a cooldown and I believe the cooldown only started after all three were placed. I’m pretty sure the turret cooldown was much longer, but it did restore all three turrets instead of doing them one at a time.
I still say the weakest Sym has ever been was for a couple weeks after Moira was released, because her damage orb could hit turrets - meaning your 6-turret trap with a total of 6hp between them got vaporised as soon as a single purple orb went through the door, and still had 99% of it's effectiveness left over. It deleted one of the most dangerous parts of her kit for zero effort.
Not true. Her cooldown worked the same as it does now. It was just two seconds longer (12s) - and the cooldown only stacked up to 3. So if your turret nest of 6 got wiped and your turrets were fully off cooldown you could only place half of them... and then you'd have to wait for the 3 remaining ones to come off cooldown one by one.
It was so clunky, placing turrets in a rush was practically impossible as the game had a hard time tracking the input, the players movement and the map geometry at the same time. And don’t get me started on trying to place turrets in places that weren’t flat, the game had no idea what to do. It just really messed with her tempo and made her feel like she had two distinct gamemodes, attack mode where you had to commit to only attacking for a period of time and then a downtime for setting up turrets or the teleporter, you couldn’t really do both at the same time.
Thank you I am not crazy. I swore I remembered symms having to walk up to spawn doors because of the limited distance to place.
I like how Karq just got tired of changing the dates when Echo came in
So, the written text of some date ranges were incorrect on DPS because I copy and pasted the first one to keep the text colour effects but forgot to change each individual one afterwards. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION karqWHY.
My audio commentary has the correct date ranges, and I'll update the timestamps with the correct date range.
It was a long video, just an oversight on my part. Thanks for understanding ❤
@@KarQ I don't understand
How did he not watch the video back once before uploading. 20% slower written everywhere and the same date copied and pasted. This gets sponsored? It’s raid I guess: they’d sponsor an ass with mange.
@@justfriccoff3363 : |
but torb was so much fun to play back then.
nothing beats being on the point minding your own business while the enemy appeared, poped molten core and watched them run away from that big level 3 turret. and if they dared touch you, you could just drop armor pack after armor pack to heal yourself.
I used to be a Torbjörn main before the changes.
I hate them changes.
not to mention you could ult and then just emote while your turret got the play of the game for you.
Reaaaaaallly dull to play against though.
@@bigfudge2031 I mean that hasn't changed in bronze and silver at least
@@jewels3846 You dont get the level 3 turret anymore though.
To this day I still feel like Ashe's scoped shots have no "weight". It's quite hard to explain the whole idea, but there's certain feedback you recieve when you shoot someone with Mcassy or with Widow, but I don't get the same feedback feeling with Ashe.
i think its that the gun moves to the side as she cocks it, which makes it lose that impact feeling of it moving in towards you with the recoil alongside it, right?
@@xleplayVA Yeah, I think that could be. It could also be that the sound of the gun overlaps with the sound you get when you sucessfully shot your enemy
Absolutely agreed. The gun sounds more like a plank of wood breaking than a gun firing and makes her shots "feel" worse
Like I genuinely believe more ppl would play Ashe if her gun had more "weight" to it's bullets
Her gun is a lever-action repeater rifle, not a high-caliber sniper or revolver. It is pretty accurate to the weight of most repeater rifles. It just may not be as satisfying in feel for a game.
@@blaynegreiner9365 i mean there are many high power lever action rifles.
I think a good mention would've been that old torb had to manually place his turret as opposed to today where you can throw his turret to be placed in pretty out of reach places which also cemented his old defensive playstyle
I honestly miss Symmetra 1.0 and 2.0 gameplay. I loved being able to support my teammates with the Teleporter and Photon Generator. I was one of the few Symmetra mains that never trolled, but that didn’t stop my team from flaming me at the start of the match. They quickly changed their tune when I would erase the enemy. I even asked one time if they still wanted me to switch, and they all said ‘no.’
And then everyone stood up and clapped
@@spookysushi4079that story is not unrealistic bffr
14:20 bastion also couldn't heal when being shot so that made his healing ability literally useless except when hiding
Roadhog has definitely come a long way. Hard to believe that Take A Breather didn't even reduce damage
And he couldn’t move while doing it
Fuck roadhog
power creep
@@771shadowolf imagine hog hook 1.0 with Overwatch 2 tank passive/hog ability to use abilities during ult/current ability state for take a breather
I kinda wanna see a 5v5 total mayhem of that
I honestly prefer the old Symmetra. She was so much fun to play when I didn’t want to actually try.
same with torb.
just build your turret and watch it get to level 3 and do all the work.
Honestly same. I just like melting genjis and watch them rage in chat
@Mr Jayboo The current one is useful
@Mr Jayboo she was not Fine.if you think a 5/6 range with 200 HP is ok, with a hero that had 1 HP in the turrets you are literally delusional. People got grandmaster because they are one tricks not because the hero is good.
I'd love to see Symmetra as a support these days, but there's no way she can be good without healing in the current meta where all supports heal
@Mr Jayboo If the Overwatch team at the time thought about making the game more tactical and less reliant on healing and sustein maybe it would actually work these days.
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT ASHE DIDNT HAVE A GOLDEN BOB IN HER WEAKEST STATE
Poor Zarya... they really nerfed her bad. I love playing as her, but the damage reduction and charge loss increase just makes it so hard to do anything.
She actually still quite strong in my opinion
You are capping hard. All you need is good bubble management and you'll have a consistent 70-80% charge at all times.
I feel like if they made any changes though she just rolls entire lobby's even today I can still roll entire lobby's in like 2800 SR.
When I smurfed (smurfed for about 100 games max ) in 2300 or higher SR range I had to intentionally bubble myself badly because of positioning I would just live entire game while killing 4 every fight if I wanted to.
Zarya is just really dependant on your positioning and bubble management and knowing the heroes limit. Also dependant on enemy's ability to hit multiple headshots in a row. That's probably why she feels bad to play in higher rank because you won't live long enough to get away while still being effective after you used your personal bubble to get away. Also the fact of the enormous amount of heroes that can either fly or have vertical movement.
@@charKT-7461 What objective are they capping?
@@scam your dad
absolutely appreciate the effort you and your team put in the videos, i dont play ow anymore but i loved watching this and remembering all these moments in time, thank you karq!
Sym has always been my favorite and this brought back some memories. i miss the locking beam so much, one of my favorite comps was lucio speed boost + mercy damage boost + sym locking beam. also because the teleporter came from the spawn room to the teleport, i would always find a really nice spot in the flank. i would wait for my team to wipe and place the teleporter down, they would all respawn then take the teleporter and instantly be in the enemy flank.
also flanking with the locking beam while spamming turrets on the floor behind the healers was super fun.
29:10 hack also didn't disable passives like lucio songs or genji double jump which made it significantly weaker
I really appreciate how u put effort not just into these video's but also your sponsorship messages. Making them quirky and engaging is a win win for everyone involved and really shows that you straight up care
7:48 Someone needs to be fired for not putting Hog's new passive on the F1 screen. I'm furious.
Don't know the reason but like, his passive is gonna be something that all tanks will have in OW2 so its a default thing for the role except he just got it early.
@@thebigzan you've nerfed my ferocity by 5% lol
That passive should be named "Thicc".
@@josewolf9884 too funny, check this out though. an ult nerf discourages players to attack tanks....shouldn't we Encourage players to attack tanks?
@@rexoverwatch more or less. Say for example you play Tracer or Soldier vs an enemy team with a Hog tank. Before the passive people used to think that it was better to farm the hog until they could pop off their ults. Now that Hog gives less ult charge it makes those players take risky angles to get their ult, at the expense of getting punished for doing so.
I miss old torb, loved it when he dropped armour for his teammates
summers symetra armor
but that level 3 turret on low ranks is a nightmare
There's still that pre-release gameplay video of Reaper with 400 health thanks to Sym's shield/Torb's armour. That would be utterly ridiculous today
great intro 🤣
also to add on dooms slam
if you slam close to someone they get pushed away from you.
if you slam someone at the mid - end of your slam they get pulled towards you.
this was a great qol change for doom
I remember when I started playing OW and tried Soldier, the spread was so much I even got a mouse with and extra left click that was an auto burst mode to bypass the spread problem, I got so used to shoot in 3 bullet bursts when Bap came especially after a short time buff to his firing rate, I felt really comfortable playing him, man he even outgunned Soldier during that time.
Great to see you still finding ideas for content keep up the great work
I gotta disagree about Sym's old teleporter as an ult. Just because people trolled with it in QP doesn't mean it was underwhelming. With the unlimited range, if you could stealthily flank and place it out of the way behind enemy lines you could teleport your entire team behind the opponent and catch them completely off guard and out of position. Offense on Volskaya in particular was prime for this kind of play. Overall she is obviously a better hero now, but that teleporter made for some very impactful and memorable plays for sure.
Great video KarQ! Keep up the good grind man. Thank god!
Cassidy's weakest state was when they changed his name to "Cole Cassidy"
I love how you gave every hero their own theme music in the background.
I think it's also worth noting that reaper's shadowstep gave an easy headshot, since he would be outlined before teleporting, whereas now he's invisible until he actually teleports.
going thru these and seeing the old ways the heroes worked gives me so much nostalgia. symm, sombra, reaper. the good ol days
Love the detail of putting Donkey Kong music on when going over Winston 😂🤣😂
Music choice on point, really noticed it with Cassidy and Bastion lol
I just finished watching your other video last night and was just like I wonder what the weakest everyone was? Thank you karq😁
Wow I love the new intro! :D
Love the minor detail by playing Donkey kongs theme in the background while talking about Winston
Great editing :)
Honestly Winston is the most balanced hero in my opinion, you play well: you get picks and ult charge, you play badly: you get rolled on universal levels
not a hero that can be played without good healing and a hero that relies on others to be effective is definitely not the most balanced.
@@bobparkes2493 gold SR opinion
Next experimental card should be 4 weeks of all heroes with their historical best stats and another 4 weeks with all heroes with their historical weakest stats.
And it's hilarious how brig would be the best in both patches
Syms old TP was connected to the spawn area, so it was sorta like a mercy rez with different positioning
after she got her mini rework that replaced her shield on an ally to a barrier and gave her, her ult choice between 75 shields or teleporter, that was so fun i want to have that back so bad most fun on any hero
Forgot to mention Reaper used to also have a ~1 second recovery window where he stood absolutely still after using Shadow Step which made him super easy to kill as Hanzo or Widow with an easy Headshot, or to CC as Ana or McCree
the intro was so good dude
I had noticed at exactly 6:18 that "you will know our names" was playing, and it sent my brain into an adrenaline filled panic
Bastion actually has an effective 375 HP due to ironclad, due to it being a 20% damage reduction, which translates to a 25% increase in effective health, not 360
On the Ashe part, there was like some sort of delay after each click untill she would fire. It was miliseconds, but noticable.
Thats why she felt so off, you'd click their heads, but by the time she fired, you'd be a pixel to the left or right
One addition to the Zenyatta bit that a lot of people forget was he was actually slower than everyone else! Not only was his ult his speed and his health tiny but he was slow so he could barely get to fights on tine with it and would die very quickly as he was an easy target
Unrelated, but it's actually very clever to use the music for the area you meet Sharla in Xenoblade Chronicles for Ana's portion of the video. I never realized how incredibly similar they are in concept.
The amount of effort on these videos is insane
Think it shows how much power creep has affected overwatch across the years. As is normal for every game.
The weakest states are mostly all sub 2018 for every OG hero
I think he completely overlooked power creep in this entire video. Raw stats do not do justice in this regard.
Dps cast would just be "weakest state is during goats because goats"
The symmetra teleport trolling, man. Holy, what a throwback I love it.
Excited for this, the strongest one was very entertaining.
25:04 so that's what the orbs did, huh?
31:50 and that explains why the report section specifies under game sabotage the situation where Symm's tp is used to yeet teammated off the map, which made sense with the old TP ult instead of the current one with the limited distance.
33:35 man I'm really learning history here, I always wondered what was all about old Torb, I started playing in 2018 when Brig was dominating and never saw a Torb in a match until the rework that gave Torb the "splatoon" ult.
these videos are amazing thank u so much you are the unsung hero of this content drought!!!!!
great ideas coming karq mayb u could’ve rank all the metas from low 2 highest
update to genji he is in his worst state atm
I feel like you may have overlooked how spread on Pharah's ult has changed. Don't know if that alone would change the conclusion just wanted to point out an additional consideration. Nice video overall!
I love the way you talk it's just so smooth
I remember making a single big pile of armor packs when playing torb. It was kinda like your private health pack whenever a tracer came to duel me
Cassidy on release? there was no such hero named Cassidy on release
.3. huh well that's good to know good video!
Maybe next video will be The most Buggy state of every hero
I remember taking a break from the game for 6ish months right when Hog became able to use breather while moving and when I came back it caught me so off guard lmao
Also for Reaper, don't forget that he didn't have i-frames nor invisibility during his teleport, making it suicidal to tp on a Widowmaker or something like that (it's still risky today, because the players have gotten better at the game, but just imagine having 2 seconds to lineup a headshot on a Reaper standing perfectly still, no way you miss that)
Also for Symmetra, teleporter was just a "get back into the fight". You only placed the exit and the entry was automatically placed at spawn. And as you can see in the clips, it's a one-way portal, you couldn't even use it to go back to spawn and switch your hero quickly
Man I forgot about that Winston shield change, man that was rough
Doomfist in ow 2: 😉
14:52, blizzard also nerfed Cassidy's name for it used to be McCree
As a DVa main who started 2 years ago that og kit make me cry
I’ve only played overwatch since January of last year, but I’ve played Ashe quite a bit, to the point that if my team wants a good hitscan they’ll sub me in. The hitscan nerf ran her into the ground. She had gotten two nerfs before that, and while she’s still alright, I’d just rather play cree or hanzo
You should do a video on every ability / ultimate that can be damaged boosted
I love how he plat Zangief's theme when he was talking about zarya
You forgot about the untargetable in cryo change for Mei which they did to add more salt to injury and removed synergy with supports... I didn't know that her weakest state would be considered launch of the game, I always found her to be more fun as a close range rather than mainly using the icicles hero but nowadays you never can use her beam because it's too useless unlike back in the day. So April 2020 - October 2020 seemed to be her weakest state, she couldn't even counter a Hammond, not that she can now or anything
Tbh I don't think Ashe was that bad at her launch state, but the QOL changes were pretty nice. If all they added was that, and didn't change her hipfire spread, reload, or clip size, I think she would not have been a problem.
The thing about Ashe that a lot of people simply do not understand is that every part of her kit has a weakness built into it, so you have to manage all of it really well to be effective. Her ammo, making sure you don't whiff or are in range of the dynamite, knocking yourself into a corner or pit with coach gun, or throwing Bob off the map. There's a lot more room for error with Ashe that is sorely missing with a lot of heroes.
I wouldn't say Ashe has that much more room for error than other heroes. Not whiffing can apply to any character and falling into pits and corners also applies to any hero with a movement ability. I will say her ammo management is specific to her and but wasting your ultimate is again, nothing specific to her. She's not the easiest character to play but she's not the most difficult.
Hey everyone, and welcome to a cool new game I just made up: It’s called “Guess who plays Ashe?”
Man, I’m an asshole.
Ashe was spread too thin. She was trying to be too many things at once and didn't do any of them particularly well
You wanted long ranged poke: Widow and Hanzo were straight up better heroes. Ashe doesn't even have the advantage of her verticality here bc both can easily take high ground
You want a midranged poke character: Cassidy was just better at that and his flashbang was a more useful counter dive/1v1 tool
You wanted poke and AoE: Pharah and Junkrat were still generally better at fulfilling that role
Like Ashe was a nice character in the sense that she has a lot of role compression: but it wasn't needed. She was only the ideal option in the extremely fringe scenario that you needed a backliner and AoE at the same time and even then I found pharmercy was much more effective in doing that
@@suppmydiff3257 Ashe does midrange better than Cassidy. Cassidy is more up close than Ashe due to his flashbang, fan the hammer, and worst fall off range
@@ricocarpenter2189 she is *now*
I'm talking release Ashe. When hitscan didn't have damage falloff
F in the chat for that roadhog who fell off the map taking tp from spawn
i hear that music when you covered pharah, i don't know how pittoo would respond lol
so many of the dates on screen don't line up with what karq actually says, especially during the mid dps section XD
For ashe I'd say shots no longer queue up the next shot if pressed slightly before recovery has finished was a nerf
Thank gosh you exist, man, I was so confused to why I wasn't doing well when coming back after 4 years... Then I saw this video and understand how much better and worse some of the hero's are and makes me understand which hero's I can fight better as tracer, which I was going off of my knowledge from 4 years ago ha
I'm pretty sure old Sym turrets used to do 30dps, not 25dps. Going from 2.0 to 3.0 her turrets got a nerf in "potential" damage. Her turrets used to do 180dps total - and with 3.0 it got nerfed to 150dps total... and now they do 120dps total.
This is all under the assumption that they didn't buff turret damage from 1.0 to 2.0... which I'm fairly certain they did not. As far as I'm aware all they did to the turrets from 1.0 to 2.0 was lower the cooldown by two seconds and make it so she can hold 6 turrets at once instead of just 3.
Totally agree with the Ashe call. I remember at release she felt like shooting a gun made of warm butter while your hands had frostbite
I kind of miss 2.0 Symmetra and old Torbjorn. I enjoyed playing them more back then. (I still like Torb, but I'm more nostalgic for his old style.)
Doomfist in ow2 has made a huge low
No he's not, you gotta play him like a tank now, not a dps
I miss old symm. She needs to be a support again. I loved the old tp, being able to have people skip the wall back from spawn and the old shield generator was also really cool, requiring more ona. Fight then everyone just ulting eachother, having tkt are care of symms stuff to get an advantage.
2:19 I think D.Va wasn’t able to shoot while boosting at that time too
reminds me of when you could go out of bounds on Numbani as Sombra, make your way to the last defense spawn, switch to Symmetra, and set up a teleporter
helped to have no cooldowns on
as a valorant player i kind of preferred soldiers old spread im just was more used to burst firing instead a vertical pull
I miss 2.0 Sym. She really required work to make work(especially since she was considered a throw pick). I definitely miss Shield Gen and OG Teleporter. A good Shield Gen placement usually took a flanker outta the game trying to find it, and while everyone hated Mass Res, OG Teleporter had the same potential to be as annoying. Loved slipping away from losing battles and having my team wait in spawn for a TP behind enemy lines. I also miss blocking ults with OG Photon Barrier.
Remember Sym 2.0 shields stacked with Torb armor in old CTF? Yeah, that shit was cancer. And it caused many, many, many stalemates. It was nice to have either one or the other, not both. But neither exist anymore, so whatever.
@@LegendkillerBlueFire I didnt play CTP because I hated the gamemode so I cant relate lol
Also for D.Va, you didn't used to be able to shoot primary fire while boosting
Cassidy’s worst state was his name change
That old Rein v. Sym clip hurt my soul
Don't forget Widow used to do 150hp a body shot, which meant that launch zen would get one shot body shot with that round ass hitbox
I noticed that a few of the pop ups for the period of time they were weakest are wrong, and also just the same for a while. For example Echo, whom was supposed to be in 2019, but the pop up was saying nov 15, 2016 - may 23, 2017. Also, it stopped after Reaper.
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i want to add that u couldn't aim the helix rockets during visor
I absolutely love how you use Xenoblade music, man.
iirc Ashe scope used to be locked at 60hz at release too, which took around a month to fix to uncapped refresh rate. It felt so horrendously bad to try and ads with her back then and this was just the nail on the coffin back then
fun going down memory lane with those 2 vids.