To the system runs great as it is. The only thing that I would possibly do is change the stock thermal paste but other than that I feel as though the fan mod isn't necessary. Good video though dude I enjoyed watching.
Your welcome bro i really liked your music transitions pon certain parts of the video and the camera ang;les were really good and you didnt skip any steps which is a problem with a lot of these videos out there.
Replacing the stock thermal paste with something as basic as Arctic MX4 makes a huge differenceto the fan noise, no need for the other mods. Also, this will have zero impact on FPS, ZERO.
eVo7 Not really true, if you don’t push air over the heat sink, it gets hotter from the chip. If you push more air over it, the chip and heat sink cool down, leading to cooler air and cooler chip.
Dude no. If you suspect even the smallest problems it's only under warranty for a year so definetly report all problems possible and send it in to Microsoft if at all possible. A warranty almost always times it's self to be pointless one year warranty means the console will most likely last around 2 years so I'd send mine in and attempt to get a new one back if at all possible for any reason they will accept as this is a supreme console and if it's over heating at all call Microsoft and see what they can do for you. They almost definetly will work with you and almost guaranteed the one they send you will be better then the one you had if you have any issues with it at all. Mine runs a bit hot but my friends is cold like ice leading me to believe his is working properly and mine isn't I also got mine from a somewhat questionable best buy and I'm unsure if it was used or tested prior to me buying it ANY scepticism and go for it use that warranty they sold a premium product they better insure you get a premium experience.
I put a SSD in mine and thermal paste works better than ever much smoother game play. Good mod u did awesome would like to know more about this mod Thanks
Interesting mod. Nice job! I would definitely consider using liquid metal TIM as further possible improvement. However I would recommend to check the ripple on that tapped supply lane and put some puffer capacitor into the circuit if needed as a massive fan is clearly able to mess up the stability. It's interesting Microsoft learnt nothing from the 90's PCs as you don't want to blow the CPU's hot air trough the PSU. 62°C air temperature? That can mean 80+ core temps quite easily.
So you just made me think and ask you a question you seem very knowledgeable. Is it possible that constantly running it through the hard drive power supply could possibly have a power related issue later because it's not plugged into its correct location that is meant to not cause an explosion or a fire I'm not really sure what the consequence would be. But I would like to do it the right way.
Actually the liquid metal tends to corrode the parts, and mainly the heatsink that isnt full copper... Its a really bad idea actually... Also it isnt bad to blow the cpu air into the psu, many itx and small cases still do that nowdays! His unit is deffective, my cousin has one xone and its very quiet and cold and he plays the shit out of it, my x360 in the other hand....
Every modern (and not so much) CPU or GPU will throttle (drop it's clock) pass certain temperature threshold, usually it's between 70-90C as measured in the core itself, so if we have 62C on the radiator or even airflow, APU itself can exceed 90 and it'll throttle like crazy to keep the temp less than critical (about 100-110C depends from a chip) and if it still exceeds critical, it just shuts off. So yes, proper cooling can gain some FPS, by preventing throttling.
Lower temperature on Exit it mean not transfering heat from GPU from inside to out side first the Orginal thermal paste and fan mode was doing better job
For all people telling that this doesn't mean more fps, just look, 30 min idle at a game before 60+ ºC and now 35ºc lol, and that's in the exterior of the unit, the apu should have like 10-15 ºc more, thermal throttling happens a lot when consoles are not cool enough, and the fan mod, look, the fan that the xbox one x has is a very good fan, for working at a little more speed doesn't mean that will fail, I'm pretty sure that that exact same fan is also on computer's fans and works faster. The only thing I'll recommend you, is to use graphite pads instead of thermal paste (this doesn't expire and has a very good heat dissipation) or liquid metal (this could expire but the heat dissipation is THE BEST) before you ask, I have liquid metal on my pc, between IHS and heatsink, and it doesn't do anything bad to them, just careful with aluminum heatsinks if you put liquid metal will break them, but Xbox one x's is copper so.
the only good thing you did was replace the thermal paste, again raising fan speed will only kill the fan faster and lessen your consoles life. there have been multiple discusions on your videos about how dumb raising fan speed is. another thing: why do you keep claiming "more fps" on your "modding" videos? consoles are NOT pc's, consoles are computers but they are locked down to run at a specific speeds and that will not change by increasing airflow or chainging thermal compound, claiming more fps is lying to your viewers and you will get ALOT of backlash from techies if you keep putting false claims on your video titles. its nice to have a good tear down and to show how to replace thermal paste, showing how to increase fan speed is pretty creative and i respect your risk taking but dont go and claim that it makes such a huge impact when the result is very minimal, the only thing that will have an impact is the thermal paste but even then not enough to "increase performance", all it will do is lower temps
faster fan speed does not do any bad to console, instead it cools it down properly. trust me these fans do not die. i have some ps3 still running on stock fans with speed mod.
everything will die at some point or another, fans are no exception, sure your ps3 fans may still be good but theres no telling when they will give out, for all you know one day you could mod a fan and it will die within a week, as i said before increasing fan speed is not a good idea. your videos are great with the teardowns and thermal compound replacement but the fan mod is extremely unnecessary, its cool and creative but unnecessary, claiming better fps is also unnecessary because you cant go beyond locked fps on a console EDIT: sorry i didnt see at the end of your video where you said more stable fps, its not more fps but in your video title you should clarify stability not more
to be fair its highly unlikely that the fan dies before the next generation of consoles is released. its a fan, it doesnt just die 5 years early because it runs a little faster.
If I get an Xbox One X, I think ill wait a few months. Microsoft may make improvements or tweaks. They must of used very cheap thermal paste for it to dry up like that. I have seen 8 year old PC's and the thermal paste is still good. I hope thermal paste is improved soon!
they wont fix the paste its a shame but they would not on the 360 the original one the s or the x its a way to gain money lol I guess. I normally wait a year till warranty is out then take it apart the change the thermal paste.
This isn't true at all; you're conveniently ignoring the fact that the heat exiting from the back of the console is the combination of the APU, PSU, HDD, RAM and any other heat source inside the console. All you did was permanently put the fan on full blast.
NVelme yup... My launch one still kicks ass tho. Works flawlessly. Bought another one in 2008 for my bedroom rroded after 6 months. Went through 6 replacement consoles.
Why should there be a 30°C improvement on the exhaust? That would mean the heat sink isn't touching the apu properly... Otherwise the temperature would be the same because the apu should be producing the same amount of heat no matter what. The improved would only be measurable on the apu itself.
You're right unless the fan speed is increased, thereby reducing the temperature of the exhaust through higher air volume. Overall the heat generated by the Xbox is the same. Now this heat is transferred more quickly into the surrounding environment.
The temperature difference is because he basically made it so the fan never turns off while the console is running. The Xbox One X is designed to run in the original temperatures shown; therefore it didn't need to overrun the fan like this mod does. While the new thermal paste helped; it was not what caused this temperature drop. The heat coming out of the console isn't what matters; it's the console's ability to maintain temperature within tolerance inside the console. The key term here is "within tolerance", Microsoft weren't just idiots that couldn't figure out how to leave a fan on like the modder did. They purposely designed the fan to only speed up when it was needed to maintain tolerance. The "dry thermal paste" is extremely normal for mass produced electronics. You're never going to buy a mass produced electronic with arctic silver thermal paste installed by hand.
I would be worried that cooler air out the back means that the heat sink isn’t working as efficiently - pretty sure you want nice hot air coming out the back. I guess now you’ve done the fan mod you’ll never know whether it’s overheating or not as you won’t hear the fans ramping up.
it is simple, once a year open, clean it, and apply new thermal compound. if you are able to open console safely and even doing a mod successfully, it will be more than easy to do it once in a year
NVelme would just feel uncomfortable using it without any way of telling how hot it’s running. Lots of things other than dried up thermal paste could cause it to run hotter without you knowing about it. I used to use the “fan accelerator” mods which increase fan speeds by 50% - then you still know it’s getting hot if the fans ramp up more than they should
NVelme correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't a volatge readout be wired between PWM and GND. Then you could visually detect what would be increased fan speed.
I like everything about this video. Wish you could do mine. The fan mod is the only thing I lack the confidence with. Maybe if I re-watch this more and more I'll be able to muster up the demeanor to do it.
Did you need any extra white connectors or wires? Did you need any additional parts or all from the Xbox? I like you psu hdd video. Did you end up using the SSD in the xb1x?
@@haz2901 I wrote this a year ago not sure what I wrote.... you say this like people dont get high or drug and get on youtube. Instead of being a DICK..... shit!!!! You gotta get a life
Improvement of cooling would help out more but doesn’t increase any more fps in the console itself, in depth just wont frame drop, the game otherwise it self would just render quicker but no improvement in fps
Mike Grunewald not on this speed trust me. Tested on many consoles before, ps3 etc. And even if does after like 3 years, do prefer dead console after a year if you are not lucky or dead fan after 3 years which is replaceable...
I've never had an issue with any console that I just played out of the box...Taking it apart and adding after market thermal paste just shows cringey paranoia tbh... Eve with that "Dry" stock thermal paste, I cant see the X overheating, not with a fan that size and that Vapour chamber...
You are a freaking moron who knows nothing about what you are talking about. All he did was save his console so it doesnt die as fast as Microsoft wants it to and thus he doesnt have to buy a 2nd one because it died of heat. Fackin newb. The paste is concrete way before you even turn it off which is completely unacceptable. If you dont know ANYTHING about hardware or modding. Stfu.
its ok for now the thermal past as my xb1 original had dry thermal paste after a year change it aslong as the console is still tranfering heat to the heat sing then you should be ok
Probably, because the console has a built-in surge protector, you should not connect it to an external surge protector. If you connect the console to another surge protector, the console cannot reach the full power that is needed for optimal performance.
only with the new thermal paste it pushed down from 5 to 8 celsius degrees but to get more than 25 down is just insane for those consoles, i think probabily at 62 was over heating because there is no way that can run than temperature in idle..and in 4k gaming it reach 200 degrees? i hope microsoft will fix that bug
Helpful, didn't think about thermal compound change, even though i built my own pc lmfao. My Apex is lagging a lot in demanding areas and my warranty hasn't existed in months so time to sort this shit out
More like; when TH-cam commenters get together and think they know more than manufacturers about building within tolerances and mass production. The modder permanently turned on the fan; hurting the life cycle of the fan and increasing the overall sound of the console at all times. The stock console maintains designed heat tolerances and designed sound level tolerances.
I open my X and when i saw the processor where was a small amount of thermal paste on it very small. I dont cut the fan cable i just clean all thermal paste and memory. I keep green large thermal paste on the radiator. I change thermal paste on processor with my pc noctua thermal paste on it, not just one point but all the processor face like marmelade on bread. I do same on memory and behind backplate too on a large black chipset. I replace the radiator with green original paste on memory and try to play with. The result work perfectly for me no need to touch fan circuit and can play all the day without overheating. My X is fix. Those console are made buy machines ( thermal paste applied ) they just need more of it for working good in my case. Thank for the disasembly video guide.
Hello my friend, I have successfully implemented several of your mods and am mega satisfied. Do you still have a fan mod for the Series X? Currently planning to convert the so that you have a fan in the back and front. A kind of tunnel ventilation.
Dont have series x yet. J am planning to get one in future. Thanks , i am happy that someone uses these mods. They are simple if you have knowledge of basic electronics repair
@@NVelme Hello, I have implemented every mod from you so far and everything went wonderfully. I thought you had some kind of Series X fan mod ready like on the Xbox one X. ;)
i use a cooler in the back to extract the heat, i did no try to check how many °C have before use and after use it, today i'll check and post the results.
i use a fan that looks like have a temperature sensor and it do the fan increrase the rpm when feels a high temperature, i put my hand behind the fan and the air feels hot, the bad is the air into the consolo have to passthrough the power supply, like de ps3 or ps4, but i leave the fan working at least 5 minutes after shutdown the xbox one x, to extract the heat that still is into
Yeah I was gonna say only a pea size is recommended I’ve used more on mine the fan is quiet but it gets hot, use a pea size and it’ll be loud as fuck but cool so either way the one x wasn’t designed to run harder then factory
Wow certainly its a deffective unit. I would send it back to the warranty! My cousins xone is very quiet and very cold, and he plays the shit out of it! My x360 is hot, that one suffers a bit when playing games and even lags a bit.
NVelme I've measured myself. At least with a infrared sensor on top of the exaust, there isnt anything too hot in there. Most i've seen was around 45-55°c.
Bs temps. 35 degrees down from 62 without changing the cooler, yeah right where did you move the console to the arctic? That apu needs to blow heat as it is a beast and clocked up to the nines...
The PWM runs on 5V although I think this is maybe reverse PWM... Because I seem to remember unplugging a PWM signal results in 100% fan speed. I can't remember right now. Haven't built a PWM controller for a computer fan in 5+ years but one works on way and one works the other (server vs consumer). Server is called reverse PWM and I think that's what this fan is. Although you'd think a server would go 100% if a circuit failed. Anyways im sure at least that it's 5V and that fan is running 100% at 5V.
If I were going to waste my time on something like this, which I wouldn't. I would have left the fan as it was. cleaned the copper plate completely and used new thermal pads. MX 4 would be my choice for thermal compound it will last at least for 8 years.
i gotta say... i play path of exile and im astonished at how much that old game lags out the newest xbox bogging the fps down. i am for sure going to do this mod. ordering the thermal paste now and im gonna use a jst connector from my rc parts for the fan.
Do you think the Xbox X Scorpio Edition has better compound? Lol I myself dont think so 'cause they didnt do really anything special to make it stand out from others. Thought I'd ask. Wish they would of made them either 2TB, Scorpio green light in the back or something other then the plastic and colour... oh ya an HDMI/Stand forgot...lol great vid I cant attempt that no confidence 🙏👍
for 1. I believe nearly all Xbox's are locked at a certain framerate, this isn't worth it to open it up and expect "more framerate" especially when the Xbox is nicely optimised for the games that are available for it. 2. You don't open up stuff that isn't meant to be opened, especially if its expensive (which in this case that is true), and it might come with a warranty that you DEFINETLY don't want to void. It's just not worth it, just don't.
Biggest waste of time. 1. You lose your warranty. 2. You cant get higher fps in games with capped fps. It just doesn't work. 3. Even if you drop temps, it doesn't really improve much except noise i suppose. 4. Just build a pc with a similar budget and be happy. (I know ram/GPU prices are high), but used is still a viable option. 5. Just. *why.*
1.better to loose warranty and have good console after warranty. it has dry thermal paste outside the box. 2. capped fps will drop below lets say 60 fps if it gets hot. 3.not too noisy. it is good 4. good gaming pc will cost about 1500 and that is not max.5. because you can :D
Doesn't mean more FPS. So you modded the fan to run at max, thus shortening its life? I feel like this probably hasn't done much other than make it a bit louder. Thermal issues weren't really a deciding factor in performance of the XBONEX.
Makes no sense in removing the thermal compound for the memory chips, reason being they're already aligned and seated. The dried thermal compound for the cpu / gpu / apu makes sense.
To all the people saying its not worth it your wrong ..new thermal paste, faster fan, all leads to a better more stable console and more stable fps..totally worth it ..and if his fan gives out..he can put in another one no worries..great job bud.
Guess ppl everywhere that have a consel don't keep it in a open area like some do. I have a playstation original and a Xbox never no overheating issues
Wow man. Maybe I’ll buy a XBOX One X cheap somewhere and use this mod for it. That kind of temperatures on idle aren’t the ones you want to see, especially in the summer..
Those thermal pads are think af. Also from my understanding you are just hot wiring the blower motor to spin at max rpm 24/7 (not all the way thru with the video yet)
I wish I knew how to do this. I found this video because I was worried of my Xbox One X overheating. Right now I have a PC fan cooler connected via USB so it won’t get hot.
Thanks so much for the video. So taking the fan from its original 12v and changing it to the HD 5v is the idea. Is it bad for it to run constantly on 12v then? Sorry just thought keeping it at constant 12v would be better so fan always runs at full speed or is it simply too noisy or bad for the fan and the slower speed is enough. Thanks again 👍
Ultimately a useless change because the xbox one x is designed to run at a constant frequency and its thermal solution was designed to match that demand. There is no evidence it reaches thermal throttle limits and gamers nexus even installed a thermometer under the radiator and the system ran at stable temps the entire time.
Waaaaaaaaaay to much therma compound wow I'm surprised your temps didn't go up or the sketchy comparison showed the temp being read from the heatsink while the second obviously only coming from vents.
I wonder if you could remove the drive completely, if you only download games/stream films, and use the extra space for some sort of cooling mod. I don't have the console but it looks like an aio cooler might fit in there with a low profile fan/rad. Just gota work out how to mount it.
what would be the harm in using a hole saw and cutting a hole in he bottom of the xbox where the squirrel cage fan intake is (that you can see @ 1:33 and 1:36 in this video) to get direct access to outside air for cooling the heatsink? I would elevate the console about 1 inch higher after this to help prevent lots of dust getting in there.
Heat has always been a negative factor with electronics, thus water cooling etc. Why not just buy a cheap really small refrigerator, put the consul into it and run wires through the refrigerator wall & not avoid consul warranty.
Interesting mod but has the xbox ever needed it if it was used in correct place. Only time I had issue was in a tiny cupboard with a boarded back I removed the back 0 issues.
I have to ask, what is the point of hooking the fan up to the HDD power plug supposed to be? You disconnect the PWM pin, so the fan runs at 100% all the time - in other words you're trading off noise for thermals. That's your prerogative, but please be open about it in the video - there are plenty of DBA meter and audio spectrum analyzer apps out there if you don't have a SPL meter. But even with this, disconnecting the PWM pin (and repasting) seems to do all of the job. Why hook the fan up to the HDD power? Are you thinking that it'll allow it to draw more power, or some such? Because that's just plain illogical - the fan connector is obviously rated for the draw of the fan at 100% speed, and the fan won't exceed that unless you modify its motor. This really warrants an explanation, preferably before the video causes some idiot to short out their $500 console.
30° difference is quite a bite !! and you have reason to talk about the fps benefice gaps. it's unbelivable to see that a simple good termal past can do the job so well ! i'm furious against microsoft and theire economic choice ... really
You can easily fit a SSD in there. Wtf? It's so much faster than HDD. I'm also a bit surprised so many people in here don't know CPU and GPU clock speed decreases when they're hot. I thought it's common knowledge among even novice PC gamers.
Sorry but after testing the only gains in temp drops with increased fan speed are when the console is idle and all games are quit, it will idle a lot cooler. Whilst gaming there is either none or very little drop in temps, sorry to report back on your claims. If you were to do a video showing in game temp differences after 30 mins then I will take back my statement.
so can someone explain what needs to be done with the (Xbox One X) to make the fan run 100% ??? pin 1 = pwm --- pin 2 = tac --- pin 3 = 12v --- pin 4 = ground. what needs disconnected and what needs connected?
To the system runs great as it is. The only thing that I would possibly do is change the stock thermal paste but other than that I feel as though the fan mod isn't necessary. Good video though dude I enjoyed watching.
dylanparks2 thanks
Your welcome bro i really liked your music transitions pon certain parts of the video and the camera ang;les were really good and you didnt skip any steps which is a problem with a lot of these videos out there.
dylanparks2 thank you!
dylanparks2 I agree
if you feel the fan mod isnt necessary you arent playing games that actually tax the systems gpu
Replacing the stock thermal paste with something as basic as Arctic MX4 makes a huge differenceto the fan noise, no need for the other mods. Also, this will have zero impact on FPS, ZERO.
i replace old thermal paste to a thermal grizzly and daaaamn it is so silent!!
not true at all as the apu heats up to 79c the console will throttle its clocck speed down and cc voltage as well meaning a dip in performance
although I wouldn't recommend prying the x clamp off with a flat head. that was my $500 mistake'
Lol
You actually want the air coming out of the console to be as hot, that means that the heatsink is drawing more heat from chip and being efficient.
eVo7 Not really true, if you don’t push air over the heat sink, it gets hotter from the chip. If you push more air over it, the chip and heat sink cool down, leading to cooler air and cooler chip.
it is not going to be hot if it is cooled down
thanks! thats right
No no no lol. The heat doesn't disappear that's not how that works. Evo is correct.
Stood mine on 4 small feet leaving about 4cm clearance underneath the console. Runs cool and very quiet.
it has no ventilation holes underneath.... not sure about this method
NVelme, any extra airflow over the surfaces dissipates more heat.
Eat Veggies 😁
If ur xbox one is working fine and under warranty. Just leave it alone.
thats right, but it eventually could die right after warranty
Dude no. If you suspect even the smallest problems it's only under warranty for a year so definetly report all problems possible and send it in to Microsoft if at all possible. A warranty almost always times it's self to be pointless one year warranty means the console will most likely last around 2 years so I'd send mine in and attempt to get a new one back if at all possible for any reason they will accept as this is a supreme console and if it's over heating at all call Microsoft and see what they can do for you.
They almost definetly will work with you and almost guaranteed the one they send you will be better then the one you had if you have any issues with it at all. Mine runs a bit hot but my friends is cold like ice leading me to believe his is working properly and mine isn't I also got mine from a somewhat questionable best buy and I'm unsure if it was used or tested prior to me buying it ANY scepticism and go for it use that warranty they sold a premium product they better insure you get a premium experience.
@@TH-cam_is_complete-total_shit actually they have warranties for longer than a year. I got a 2 years warranty on mine
I put a SSD in mine and thermal paste works better than ever much smoother game play. Good mod u did awesome would like to know more about this mod
Thanks
Thank you! you did great job as well by following these tips
Interesting mod. Nice job!
I would definitely consider using liquid metal TIM as further possible improvement.
However I would recommend to check the ripple on that tapped supply lane and put some puffer capacitor into the circuit if needed as a massive fan is clearly able to mess up the stability.
It's interesting Microsoft learnt nothing from the 90's PCs as you don't want to blow the CPU's hot air trough the PSU.
62°C air temperature? That can mean 80+ core temps quite easily.
Péter Kiss Microsoft dont care. They benefit from consoles that break in a few years.
So you just made me think and ask you a question you seem very knowledgeable. Is it possible that constantly running it through the hard drive power supply could possibly have a power related issue later because it's not plugged into its correct location that is meant to not cause an explosion or a fire I'm not really sure what the consequence would be. But I would like to do it the right way.
Actually the liquid metal tends to corrode the parts, and mainly the heatsink that isnt full copper... Its a really bad idea actually...
Also it isnt bad to blow the cpu air into the psu, many itx and small cases still do that nowdays!
His unit is deffective, my cousin has one xone and its very quiet and cold and he plays the shit out of it, my x360 in the other hand....
Yeah just ruin your consoles heatsink with liquid metal 😂
Rhydonify The cpu probably wont have much issues as it is basivally silicon, but the heatdink... That will likelly suffer a bit
Better FPS? Please. Better cooling doesn't gain more frames unless the system is thermal throttling.
Pepsi Maniac Gaming when apu gets too hot like on original cooling it drops frames, has less frames. Cooling mod eliminates frame drop
NVelme Sort of like the Athlon XP lineup? I've seen them behave the way you are describing APUs.
Every modern (and not so much) CPU or GPU will throttle (drop it's clock) pass certain temperature threshold, usually it's between 70-90C as measured in the core itself, so if we have 62C on the radiator or even airflow, APU itself can exceed 90 and it'll throttle like crazy to keep the temp less than critical (about 100-110C depends from a chip) and if it still exceeds critical, it just shuts off. So yes, proper cooling can gain some FPS, by preventing throttling.
It does. But not only that, it extends the life of the APU, by reducing thermal strain on it.
{MLP} Rainbow Dash yes, that's correct. Less heat, is always better anyway, unless you need a room heater, not a console.
Xbox1X is still a awesome gaming system, even in 2022!!
Lower temperature on Exit it mean not transfering heat from GPU from inside to out side first the Orginal thermal paste and fan mode was doing better job
For all people telling that this doesn't mean more fps, just look, 30 min idle at a game before 60+ ºC and now 35ºc lol, and that's in the exterior of the unit, the apu should have like 10-15 ºc more, thermal throttling happens a lot when consoles are not cool enough, and the fan mod, look, the fan that the xbox one x has is a very good fan, for working at a little more speed doesn't mean that will fail, I'm pretty sure that that exact same fan is also on computer's fans and works faster.
The only thing I'll recommend you, is to use graphite pads instead of thermal paste (this doesn't expire and has a very good heat dissipation) or liquid metal (this could expire but the heat dissipation is THE BEST) before you ask, I have liquid metal on my pc, between IHS and heatsink, and it doesn't do anything bad to them, just careful with aluminum heatsinks if you put liquid metal will break them, but Xbox one x's is copper so.
thanks mate, i appreciate that. and yes some pc fans run full speed and does not fail. this fan is running around 40 % of max speed.
HELL NO. $500 = NO OPEN.
if you have decent job, then it is more fun and education to open them
heck i opened up an $750 graphics card last year to install a waterblock at that point it became a $900 gpu
Chicken lmao
Xbox One X is the easiest console in the world to take apart. Hell, it's even easier than most PC builds.
$500 ain’t shit dude, work for like 10 hours lmao
This is one of those videos you want to like it multiple times.
He is a developer in Microsoft Redmond Campus.
Nice work bro, so fast forward 2 years later, how's ur Xbox one X holding up after modification
Nice. I was sort of hoping for liquid metal and that youll put in an ssd. But still nice.
Liquid metal is bad for console
the only good thing you did was replace the thermal paste, again raising fan speed will only kill the fan faster and lessen your consoles life. there have been multiple discusions on your videos about how dumb raising fan speed is. another thing: why do you keep claiming "more fps" on your "modding" videos? consoles are NOT pc's, consoles are computers but they are locked down to run at a specific speeds and that will not change by increasing airflow or chainging thermal compound, claiming more fps is lying to your viewers and you will get ALOT of backlash from techies if you keep putting false claims on your video titles. its nice to have a good tear down and to show how to replace thermal paste, showing how to increase fan speed is pretty creative and i respect your risk taking but dont go and claim that it makes such a huge impact when the result is very minimal, the only thing that will have an impact is the thermal paste but even then not enough to "increase performance", all it will do is lower temps
faster fan speed does not do any bad to console, instead it cools it down properly. trust me these fans do not die. i have some ps3 still running on stock fans with speed mod.
everything will die at some point or another, fans are no exception, sure your ps3 fans may still be good but theres no telling when they will give out, for all you know one day you could mod a fan and it will die within a week, as i said before increasing fan speed is not a good idea. your videos are great with the teardowns and thermal compound replacement but the fan mod is extremely unnecessary, its cool and creative but unnecessary, claiming better fps is also unnecessary because you cant go beyond locked fps on a console
EDIT: sorry i didnt see at the end of your video where you said more stable fps, its not more fps but in your video title you should clarify stability not more
Yes, thanks!
Social Freak somebody who gets it, finally I just thought it was people trying to talk trash because they don’t have one
to be fair its highly unlikely that the fan dies before the next generation of consoles is released. its a fan, it doesnt just die 5 years early because it runs a little faster.
That is a lot of work for the average person who is not going to do that. This is for advanced users only.
If I get an Xbox One X, I think ill wait a few months. Microsoft may make improvements or tweaks. They must of used very cheap thermal paste for it to dry up like that. I have seen 8 year old PC's and the thermal paste is still good. I hope thermal paste is improved soon!
Xenon777 it could be fixed with later revisions
they wont fix the paste its a shame but they would not on the 360 the original one the s or the x its a way to gain money lol I guess. I normally wait a year till warranty is out then take it apart the change the thermal paste.
GodofTech Number One 😂 if air temperature is 65. Then chipset will be way hotter
This isn't true at all; you're conveniently ignoring the fact that the heat exiting from the back of the console is the combination of the APU, PSU, HDD, RAM and any other heat source inside the console. All you did was permanently put the fan on full blast.
They make the MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVARRR, yet cheap out on essential things
Remember the old 360 tho?
yes, thats right and they saved on 360 paste as well, it was dry and hard like rock
NVelme yup... My launch one still kicks ass tho. Works flawlessly. Bought another one in 2008 for my bedroom rroded after 6 months. Went through 6 replacement consoles.
woow that's crazy, 6 consoles.
NVelme ikr...
If the source of power were external, the temperature would be lower,
Greetings and good work!
yes thats right i would like to try it in future
Why should there be a 30°C improvement on the exhaust? That would mean the heat sink isn't touching the apu properly... Otherwise the temperature would be the same because the apu should be producing the same amount of heat no matter what. The improved would only be measurable on the apu itself.
that's not right... heatsink gets hot because of apu getting hot, which means... if you cool down heatsink, apu gets cooler as well.
So where is the heat going then?
ventilated outside console through back and fresh cooler air drawn in through side vent holes
You're right unless the fan speed is increased, thereby reducing the temperature of the exhaust through higher air volume. Overall the heat generated by the Xbox is the same. Now this heat is transferred more quickly into the surrounding environment.
The temperature difference is because he basically made it so the fan never turns off while the console is running. The Xbox One X is designed to run in the original temperatures shown; therefore it didn't need to overrun the fan like this mod does. While the new thermal paste helped; it was not what caused this temperature drop. The heat coming out of the console isn't what matters; it's the console's ability to maintain temperature within tolerance inside the console.
The key term here is "within tolerance", Microsoft weren't just idiots that couldn't figure out how to leave a fan on like the modder did. They purposely designed the fan to only speed up when it was needed to maintain tolerance.
The "dry thermal paste" is extremely normal for mass produced electronics. You're never going to buy a mass produced electronic with arctic silver thermal paste installed by hand.
Not even surprised he didn’t make a follow up video showing actual FPS comparisons. I’ll tell you why, because there is no difference.
not sure how to measure fps on console, thats why
You mean there is no more console lol it's broken and be discarded or sold.
Also, all the console games are V synced so it's not going to increase.
@@NVelme I hear some monitors have the capability. I think that's one way gamer nexus does it
@@NVelme in fortnite there is a fps count shown on every device. Also on console.
It's called: packets/s
I would be worried that cooler air out the back means that the heat sink isn’t working as efficiently - pretty sure you want nice hot air coming out the back. I guess now you’ve done the fan mod you’ll never know whether it’s overheating or not as you won’t hear the fans ramping up.
it is simple, once a year open, clean it, and apply new thermal compound. if you are able to open console safely and even doing a mod successfully, it will be more than easy to do it once in a year
NVelme would just feel uncomfortable using it without any way of telling how hot it’s running. Lots of things other than dried up thermal paste could cause it to run hotter without you knowing about it. I used to use the “fan accelerator” mods which increase fan speeds by 50% - then you still know it’s getting hot if the fans ramp up more than they should
NVelme correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't a volatge readout be wired between PWM and GND. Then you could visually detect what would be increased fan speed.
higher airflow means lower delta T
I like everything about this video. Wish you could do mine. The fan mod is the only thing I lack the confidence with. Maybe if I re-watch this more and more I'll be able to muster up the demeanor to do it.
Andrew you should be able to :)
Did you need any extra white connectors or wires? Did you need any additional parts or all from the Xbox? I like you psu hdd video. Did you end up using the SSD in the xb1x?
Andrew xbox supports 500gb hdds. Need to get it first. That one was only 60 gb
*They all use dry thermal paste,it holds better when shipping*
:)
lol
Can't not can
@@TH-cam_is_complete-total_shit i may have found the dumbest comment on youtube, congrats
@@haz2901 I wrote this a year ago not sure what I wrote.... you say this like people dont get high or drug and get on youtube. Instead of being a DICK..... shit!!!! You gotta get a life
Now also swap the stock HDD with a Seagate Firecuda 2TB SSHD! Or even better: a proper SSD!
Where was the modded wire when it was all put back together, ud clearly see it as u cudnt hide bulky plugs that well in there
Improvement of cooling would help out more but doesn’t increase any more fps in the console itself, in depth just wont frame drop, the game otherwise it self would just render quicker but no improvement in fps
Just because you made the Xbox run cooler does not mean you're going to get more frames it stops at 60.
It would make the frames much more stable as a result of less thermal throttling.
Use a power hand saw trim top add pc fan tada :)
Not gonna lie I'm considering this lol
The X doesn’t need a cooling mod, it’s quiet and decently cool all the time.
Not at all, 30 minutes watching Netflix or TH-cam, and it's really hot
Dude come to my house to do this to mine I'll pay you bro
Contact email him
The console is designed to run at these temps all you did was make sure the cooling fan dies twice as fast .
Mike Grunewald not on this speed trust me. Tested on many consoles before, ps3 etc.
And even if does after like 3 years, do prefer dead console after a year if you are not lucky or dead fan after 3 years which is replaceable...
Try telling that to an Xbox 360, you need them to run as cool as you can get.
that's quite the moronic statement.
I've never had an issue with any console that I just played out of the box...Taking it apart and adding after market thermal paste just shows cringey paranoia tbh...
Eve with that "Dry" stock thermal paste, I cant see the X overheating, not with a fan that size and that Vapour chamber...
You are a freaking moron who knows nothing about what you are talking about. All he did was save his console so it doesnt die as fast as Microsoft wants it to and thus he doesnt have to buy a 2nd one because it died of heat. Fackin newb. The paste is concrete way before you even turn it off which is completely unacceptable. If you dont know ANYTHING about hardware or modding. Stfu.
Basically what you did was remove the rpm control so that the fan works at its maximum all the time. I am right?
Bingo... Now it sounds like a 747... Lol. I did the same to my wife's... Damn thing was running really hot before,but now runs great. But loud... Lol.
I think this has answered the question as to why a lot of these consoles have died 2 days after being opened, dry thermal paste.
David Redford not sure how they get it so dry. It looks like 4 years old console
cheap thermal paste lol if they used mx5 or something it would not be dry lol
its ok for now the thermal past as my xb1 original had dry thermal paste after a year change it aslong as the console is still tranfering heat to the heat sing then you should be ok
Probably, because the console has a built-in surge protector, you should not connect it to an external surge protector. If you connect the console to another surge protector, the console cannot reach the full power that is needed for optimal performance.
only with the new thermal paste it pushed down from 5 to 8 celsius degrees but to get more than 25 down is just insane for those consoles, i think probabily at 62 was over heating because there is no way that can run than temperature in idle..and in 4k gaming it reach 200 degrees? i hope microsoft will fix that bug
Dario Rrapaj they dould fix it within next update file i guess. But they will leave it as it is. More money for them
is a 500 euros console is not a nintedo..so bullshit
Thank you for this video!
thanks. i am happy if it helped
Helpful, didn't think about thermal compound change, even though i built my own pc lmfao. My Apex is lagging a lot in demanding areas and my warranty hasn't existed in months so time to sort this shit out
These do not need , the normal temperature from back to xbox one x is 60-65c, only after 1 year change the thermal paste.
thermal paste originally was crap!
When PC and Console gamers get together and, in fact, know more about electronic and PC hardware than the manufacturer, designer and proprietor.
More like; when TH-cam commenters get together and think they know more than manufacturers about building within tolerances and mass production.
The modder permanently turned on the fan; hurting the life cycle of the fan and increasing the overall sound of the console at all times.
The stock console maintains designed heat tolerances and designed sound level tolerances.
I open my X and when i saw the processor where was a small amount of thermal paste on it very small. I dont cut the fan cable i just clean all thermal paste and memory. I keep green large thermal paste on the radiator. I change thermal paste on processor with my pc noctua thermal paste on it, not just one point but all the processor face like marmelade on bread. I do same on memory and behind backplate too on a large black chipset. I replace the radiator with green original paste on memory and try to play with. The result work perfectly for me no need to touch fan circuit and can play all the day without overheating. My X is fix. Those console are made buy machines ( thermal paste applied ) they just need more of it for working good in my case. Thank for the disasembly video guide.
thank you! i like that people care about the consoles.
if your consols overheating and games are running slow then dont do this just send it back coz its faulty
many consoles were overheating outside box. but people do not know how overheating looks like.
Do you want to tell me, that APU starts to throttle and therefore cause lower framerate in-game when it has 62.1°C? Are you kidding me?
Hello my friend, I have successfully implemented several of your mods and am mega satisfied. Do you still have a fan mod for the Series X? Currently planning to convert the so that you have a fan in the back and front. A kind of tunnel ventilation.
Dont have series x yet. J am planning to get one in future. Thanks , i am happy that someone uses these mods. They are simple if you have knowledge of basic electronics repair
@@NVelme Hello, I have implemented every mod from you so far and everything went wonderfully. I thought you had some kind of Series X fan mod ready like on the Xbox one X. ;)
@@mirrorstuff4235 have to get some consoles
if you dont use pwm line your fan dont change speed so the fan speed will be the same
yes speed will be the same, but it is fast enough to not overheat ever
you're saying disconnecting the one pwm line will set the fan to run full blast at all times right?
i use a cooler in the back to extract the heat, i did no try to check how many °C have before use and after use it, today i'll check and post the results.
never tried that method, i heard it is not working that well... but you never know
i use a fan that looks like have a temperature sensor and it do the fan increrase the rpm when feels a high temperature, i put my hand behind the fan and the air feels hot, the bad is the air into the consolo have to passthrough the power supply, like de ps3 or ps4, but i leave the fan working at least 5 minutes after shutdown the xbox one x, to extract the heat that still is into
i check the temperature and in get °54~°56 C playing pubg by an hour, and in standby downloading i get °40 ~ °41C
Damn that was a lot of thermal paste sir. Hows it running after all this time?
Yeah I was gonna say only a pea size is recommended I’ve used more on mine the fan is quiet but it gets hot, use a pea size and it’ll be loud as fuck but cool so either way the one x wasn’t designed to run harder then factory
Should have upgraded the HD with 2TB or a SSD while you are at it
Wow certainly its a deffective unit. I would send it back to the warranty!
My cousins xone is very quiet and very cold, and he plays the shit out of it!
My x360 is hot, that one suffers a bit when playing games and even lags a bit.
Eduardo Avila, no 360 manda um cooler em cima e tira aquele fio azul do fan, gg
Eduardo Avila, tira do rack tbm, deixa ele com as saidas de ar livres
SniPlays Boa ideia, mas talvez fique bem barulhento, acho que vou por umas ventoinhas da noctua nele
ask him to measure temperatures... it is quiet even if it is overheating
NVelme I've measured myself. At least with a infrared sensor on top of the exaust, there isnt anything too hot in there. Most i've seen was around 45-55°c.
Holy shit this console is locked down tight
Bs temps. 35 degrees down from 62 without changing the cooler, yeah right where did you move the console to the arctic? That apu needs to blow heat as it is a beast and clocked up to the nines...
cooler was changed
I always leave those front stickers on all my Xbox’s and that peel just hurt me.
over years dirt gets under sticker, it scratches surface
I don't understand.
I can see the connection on the left side of the fan.
What is connected with?
Please explain or screen.
Greetings
The PWM runs on 5V although I think this is maybe reverse PWM... Because I seem to remember unplugging a PWM signal results in 100% fan speed. I can't remember right now. Haven't built a PWM controller for a computer fan in 5+ years but one works on way and one works the other (server vs consumer). Server is called reverse PWM and I think that's what this fan is. Although you'd think a server would go 100% if a circuit failed.
Anyways im sure at least that it's 5V and that fan is running 100% at 5V.
I could be wrong but I believe the fan is drawing the air away from the PSU
it is cooling psu by air flow, could be drawing hot one as well
If I were going to waste my time on something like this, which I wouldn't. I would have left the fan as it was. cleaned the copper plate completely and used new thermal pads. MX 4 would be my choice for thermal compound it will last at least for 8 years.
on consoles it would be about 2-3 years with mx4 if you play daily
@@NVelme Source?
i gotta say... i play path of exile and im astonished at how much that old game lags out the newest xbox bogging the fps down. i am for sure going to do this mod. ordering the thermal paste now and im gonna use a jst connector from my rc parts for the fan.
Do you think the Xbox X Scorpio Edition has better compound? Lol I myself dont think so 'cause they didnt do really anything special to make it stand out from others. Thought I'd ask. Wish they would of made them either 2TB, Scorpio green light in the back or something other then the plastic and colour... oh ya an HDMI/Stand forgot...lol great vid I cant attempt that no confidence 🙏👍
i believe scorpio has same quality compound, yes they did terrible work on scorpio edition, needs some led lights etc. thank you!
Opening this console will loose warranty
Gabriell Salas yes.it will
Don't matter..
No shit sherlock?
motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gv5ddm/warranty-void-if-removed-stickers-are-illegal
kegels will fix a loose warranty
for 1. I believe nearly all Xbox's are locked at a certain framerate, this isn't worth it to open it up and expect "more framerate" especially when the Xbox is nicely optimised for the games that are available for it. 2. You don't open up stuff that isn't meant to be opened, especially if its expensive (which in this case that is true), and it might come with a warranty that you DEFINETLY don't want to void. It's just not worth it, just don't.
to prevent from overheating you supposed to do everything possible
@@NVelme they don't overheat though, the games are optimised to keep it from overheating. Not once have I seen an Xbox one X thermal throttle.
it may be a phase changing compound when hot. I don't want to believe a brand new xbox one x has dried thermal compound.
it is hard even while hot, they had similar compound in old 360
It works Fine, my Xbox One x is now cooler. Many thanks for that Mod ;) .
thank you mate
Personally I would have left the fan alone, but great work otherwise
Thanks
Screws are just nightmares.
i learned how to manage them now :)
Would love to see how it performs so I'll do this on my X and S and 360... I use artic cool on all. My consoles even retro consoles.. Big difference..
yo hice eso en un 360 que parecia iba a flotar en el aire, de igual modo se calentaba y salieron las luces rojas
Biggest waste of time.
1. You lose your warranty.
2. You cant get higher fps in games with capped fps. It just doesn't work.
3. Even if you drop temps, it doesn't really improve much except noise i suppose.
4. Just build a pc with a similar budget and be happy. (I know ram/GPU prices are high), but used is still a viable option.
5. Just. *why.*
1.better to loose warranty and have good console after warranty. it has dry thermal paste outside the box.
2. capped fps will drop below lets say 60 fps if it gets hot.
3.not too noisy. it is good
4. good gaming pc will cost about 1500 and that is not max.5. because you can :D
Doesn't mean more FPS.
So you modded the fan to run at max, thus shortening its life?
I feel like this probably hasn't done much other than make it a bit louder. Thermal issues weren't really a deciding factor in performance of the XBONEX.
the top would be to find a way to install a watercooling
not too hard to do that
if i understood correctly...you change the speed of your fan for better cooling?
yes thats right
Makes no sense in removing the thermal compound for the memory chips, reason being they're already aligned and seated. The dried thermal compound for the cpu / gpu / apu makes sense.
those thermal pads should be changed to better ones
to prevent any problems with ram chips better to align them
Hi. If disconnect the pwm the fan will spin at 100%? Sorry for my bad English
Good video mate
thank you
To all the people saying its not worth it your wrong ..new thermal paste, faster fan, all leads to a better more stable console and more stable fps..totally worth it ..and if his fan gives out..he can put in another one no worries..great job bud.
There would be no fps gain, the system would shut off before any thermal throttle begins
@@Joe-qs9fw I said "Stable fps" Joe your not reading the post buddy stable means less dropped frames not increased frames 👍
Liquid Metal instead of thermal paste you could use liquid metal
not using because of possible short circuit if they get on caps resistors etc.
Its also corrosive
Guess ppl everywhere that have a consel don't keep it in a open area like some do. I have a playstation original and a Xbox never no overheating issues
Jason Matthew the thermal compound on the One X is dry, and terrible. Nothing to do with open space, replacing it just straight up improves cooling.
i never thought that it will be so bad, but it is, looks like they wont console to die soon after guarantee runs out
Wow man. Maybe I’ll buy a XBOX One X cheap somewhere and use this mod for it. That kind of temperatures on idle aren’t the ones you want to see, especially in the summer..
Those thermal pads are think af.
Also from my understanding you are just hot wiring the blower motor to spin at max rpm 24/7 (not all the way thru with the video yet)
Unedited Gamer nop... it spuns at full speed on 12v. This one is on 5v which is about 45 % of max speed
I wish I knew how to do this. I found this video because I was worried of my Xbox One X overheating. Right now I have a PC fan cooler connected via USB so it won’t get hot.
not too hard to do, but if you are not sure, you can bring it to nearest console repair shop, they will do it
Thanks so much for the video. So taking the fan from its original 12v and changing it to the HD 5v is the idea. Is it bad for it to run constantly on 12v then?
Sorry just thought keeping it at constant 12v would be better so fan always runs at full speed or is it simply too noisy or bad for the fan and the slower speed is enough. Thanks again 👍
Ultimately a useless change because the xbox one x is designed to run at a constant frequency and its thermal solution was designed to match that demand. There is no evidence it reaches thermal throttle limits and gamers nexus even installed a thermometer under the radiator and the system ran at stable temps the entire time.
not with dry thermal paste outside the box. i am not the only one who had dry paste in brand new console. give me a break
Waaaaaaaaaay to much therma compound wow I'm surprised your temps didn't go up or the sketchy comparison showed the temp being read from the heatsink while the second obviously only coming from vents.
that is not too much trust me, you can see after removing heatsink. tested temp from several places
Where the hell did the plug come from that you switched the fan to lol did you put it in or are you tapping into an existing one
I wonder if you could remove the drive completely, if you only download games/stream films, and use the extra space for some sort of cooling mod. I don't have the console but it looks like an aio cooler might fit in there with a low profile fan/rad. Just gota work out how to mount it.
Mr_Tony that is smart 👍 you could replace hdd with small ssd pci chip
Better temperatures does not equal better frame rates
it does :)
what would be the harm in using a hole saw and cutting a hole in he bottom of the xbox where the squirrel cage fan intake is (that you can see @ 1:33 and 1:36 in this video) to get direct access to outside air for cooling the heatsink? I would elevate the console about 1 inch higher after this to help prevent lots of dust getting in there.
Heat has always been a negative factor with electronics, thus water cooling etc. Why not just buy a cheap really small refrigerator, put the consul into it and run wires through the refrigerator wall & not avoid consul warranty.
condensation
Damn loud background noise chill
Bought my ps4 3 years ago and opened it yesterday and the thermal paste was still gooey . Feel like i should check my xbox one s .
there is possibility that some employers added better compound, you never know
Got a question . My ps4 starts to get a black screen when going through the menu or when i press start in game . Any idea what it could be .
Gamerz Grip it could be hdmi port
Thanks
Interesting mod but has the xbox ever needed it if it was used in correct place. Only time I had issue was in a tiny cupboard with a boarded back I removed the back 0 issues.
Thermal paste is dry because it reacts to temperature :) Microsoft thermal works this way lol
I think he just made it so the fan is always running at full blast.
I have to ask, what is the point of hooking the fan up to the HDD power plug supposed to be? You disconnect the PWM pin, so the fan runs at 100% all the time - in other words you're trading off noise for thermals. That's your prerogative, but please be open about it in the video - there are plenty of DBA meter and audio spectrum analyzer apps out there if you don't have a SPL meter. But even with this, disconnecting the PWM pin (and repasting) seems to do all of the job. Why hook the fan up to the HDD power? Are you thinking that it'll allow it to draw more power, or some such? Because that's just plain illogical - the fan connector is obviously rated for the draw of the fan at 100% speed, and the fan won't exceed that unless you modify its motor. This really warrants an explanation, preferably before the video causes some idiot to short out their $500 console.
Trond Aasland to hdd because woltage appears there only if console is on. Fan on 100% it is too loud.
The purpose of this video is to focus the bad assembly line process ?
Does that means every Xbox X have the same issue ?
Jerome C yesvi believe every single one has same problems
30° difference is quite a bite !! and you have reason to talk about the fps benefice gaps.
it's unbelivable to see that a simple good termal past can do the job so well !
i'm furious against microsoft and theire economic choice ... really
@NVelme
cool and informative video!~
may i ask the name of the background sound?
my friend created that soundtrack. it is not available yet
Needs a backplate and SSD not HDD because makes more heat with HDD and is slower.
You can easily fit a SSD in there. Wtf? It's so much faster than HDD. I'm also a bit surprised so many people in here don't know CPU and GPU clock speed decreases when they're hot. I thought it's common knowledge among even novice PC gamers.
those who don't understand, they don't even know how motherboard looks like :D
Sorry but after testing the only gains in temp drops with increased fan speed are when the console is idle and all games are quit, it will idle a lot cooler. Whilst gaming there is either none or very little drop in temps, sorry to report back on your claims. If you were to do a video showing in game temp differences after 30 mins then I will take back my statement.
will do a video soon. thank you
so can someone explain what needs to be done with the (Xbox One X) to make the fan run 100% ???
pin 1 = pwm --- pin 2 = tac --- pin 3 = 12v --- pin 4 = ground. what needs disconnected and what needs connected?
Pin 1 pwm disconnected. Pin 3 12 volts change for 5 volts hdd line
I just liked the music