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One of the main groups of pepole that have emailed me over the years are the guys that used to ride dirt bikes as kids and then have to give up that portion of their life when they graduate high school, attend college, start working, and start their families. There are just so many bills and things to go around and not enough extra income. Let's discuss this for a little bit here.
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My son Jacob was turning 16 and I was determined to buy him a new YZ125. I bit the bullet and got a loan to purchase it.
My father told me I was being foolish to go into debt for a dirt bike, but I felt strongly that I needed to do it.
7 months later my 16 year old son was tragically killed in a auto/train accident.
It's been since 2002 and to this day I am so grateful I went ahead and went against my father's counsel. The video I have of him getting that bike is the greatest treasure I have.
@@jeffboyd7780 good for you. Glad your son got to experience the thrill of a new bike.
Wow that's really sad, I'm so sorry to hear that, even though idk what it feels to be a dad because I don't have kids, I'm sure was and it's been very difficult to get over it for you, but good thing is that you went ahead and bought the bike for your kid, at least you enjoyed quality time riding with him.
I’m so sorry for your loss but I’m glad you guys got to do that and now you have that memory. Great father!
Bikes or no, my deepest condolences to you. I am sure your son knew what s great father he had.
Sorry for your loss, must of been really heavy to deal with 🙏
However you have given him a machine that gave him every bit of life to live for and more.
You are one hell of a unit to go through something very tragic and life changing. Wherever you are I’m wishing you the best for your Strength and Luck!🙏
I love riding with my son. When he gets older and can't afford to buy his own, I'll buy the damn thing cuz I need my riding buddy! No one else I'd like to ride with more than my boy!
Kyle, you are solely responsible for me getting back on a bike after 30yrs. Now, it's my favorite thing to do. Thank you.
I was 9 in 1970 when my dad bought my first bike so I could ride with him & his buddys I've been riding ever since, matter of fact I just bought two 2024 KTM 450 XCF-W's for myself & my 28yo son that's busting his ass paying for a house, wife & 2 kids just so I have a riding buddy......... time together is priceless when your 63 & still riding in the desert with your son
This why it nothing wrong having a old bike I have a 98 cr250 and love it you don’t need the latest greatest dirt bike it’s just fun to be out on a bike
So true. 99 KX250 for me, still a blast.
That's my bike and year! It's a ripper! Lectron ftw
Yes, it does suck when you don't have money. I am 22. I finished school, got a great job, and finally earned money to buy a dirt bike. I went for a new KTM EXC 150 2024 as my first dirt bike. I am so excited to ride it!
Ammon, if you see this. Here’s my 2 cents.
I am 29 years old and grew up riding with my dad. In high school; my dads career took a turn where we had to sell all of our bikes. I didnt ride from 17 until I was 22. I bought a ktm 250 2t on credit and it was a terrible decision at the time. The payments were very taxing. I sold the bike and didn’t have one again until I was 26. My friends all rode and it was so hard to see them out riding all the time and being home. In 2020 I was lucky to be in a place I was able to buy a new kx450 and by luck my dad bought a 2019 ktm300. We spent two days out riding together after a decade. My dad decided after those two rides, that he was too old to continue. I will cherish those two days forever. It was fun to see my dad still had some skills and to show him how far my riding had come. I am now a father of 2 young kiddos and again find myself without a bike, but my oldest (6) has a crf 50 and is loving the process of learning. I love teaching equally as much and look forward to when we get to ride together. I say all that to say, don’t rush things. Focus on your schooling, get a good solid vehicle and work hard so that when things are better financially, you can get the bike you want. In the mean time, go all out on the fishing trips. My dad and I have enjoyed hunting together for the last 14 years and it has become the thing around which we have bonded most. Take all the time you can with your old man, no matter what you’re doing. Soak in the time, the stories, the lessons and the friendship. Best wishes pal. Leave a single track!
@@dannygrimes4951 how old is your dad and in what physical shape?
@@michaelb2906 only 53 and still in good shape. He’s still a very active hunter and can sometimes out hike me. He just decided the risks that come with riding weren’t worth it to him anymore.
Thank you so much for sharing, I really appreciate the advice. I definitely will find other ways to bond with my dad while I’m in school and work hard so I can get back into riding after.
You don't need to have the latest and greatest bike to spend time with your dad.
That was my exact same thought. An early 2000s bike won't be nearly as expensive and will still get you out there.
Great to see a grown man/father open to his emotions and willing to speak to about the importance of family time no matter how annoying the kids can be 😅😂
Last year I got a lot of hate from a lot of people. I took a withdrawal from my pension and purchased my two youngest boys dirt bikes and my daughter a four wheeler. Like someone else said, we only live once and I can’t take anything with me. But the joy they have had and me watching them has been priceless. They have came so far that they have upgraded. The youngest boy moved up to the older ones KLX 140. And I just bought the older one a 2024 KX 250x. To say I was worried about him is an understatement. But to watch him on it and see how well he has done is amazing. They all three entered their first race last weekend. My daughter and youngest son placed fourth in their classes. And the oldest on the 250 was in a class with 450’s and he placed sixteenth out of 64 riders. And was clearing a 35’ double that scared dad asked him not to do lol. I was so proud of them for their accomplishments. The wait of that first lap to see them make it around seemed like an eternity of worry. I’m 45, I’ve worked since I was 14. To some I may have made a bad decision but the smiles on their faces and memories we make I know will last forever. Tomorrow is never promised….live today.
Kyle, I can relate to this guy.
I was a young father @23 out of college and had to put my db hobby down for a while and prioritize my free time raising a family. Fishing was some of the greatest times for me and my son as it was with me and my father as a child.
I couldn’t afford the sport as a young married. But we made do.
Those moments in time are treasure. My son and I tried DB together but it wasn’t his thing. There’s a huge story there but blessed nonetheless.
I was 33 when I got back on in 2006 and it was a KTM 300 EXC.
Now he supports me in my passion while I support him in his: sports radio. 30 years later- Still love to fish together and chat like father and son. 😊
Like Kyle said: work back to it and make it your motivation. Father and son and then you pass those experiences down to yours.
I so did that and it helped me. It was my escape later in life. My wife loves me doing this now. I’m blessed that she supports something that she knows is not us but me. Maybe she needs a break from me too. It’s definitely reciprocal .🤣
Happy and blessed to still rip it at 51 and a wife and son who love’s me back and supports me and my need for throttle therapy. ❤️ 💪🏻
Adventure and dirt bikes bring me lots of peace and help with my anxiety that got worse while I was on active duty in the Army. Getting outdoors, focusing on the moment, disconnecting from the mind really help my mental health. There is no right answer for everyone, but for me, riding brings me peace, joy, helps me decompress and be holistic in health after the Army while finding who I am without the uniform.
Dirt bikes changed my life from mundane schooling, so blessed to pick up a nearly new 125x for my daughter and we are heading for numerous rides during the summer holidays. Those sentiments are real.
Had this same situation, had to put it down through college and then worked for 2 years to get my life together before it made sense to get back into it. Don't go into debt for something that isn't a priority.
We only live once and cannot take anything with us when we leave. I’d rather have debt and LIVE with my kids than die waiting.
Those who borrow are the slave to the lender...
NO DEBT -0
@@onthethrottle7104okay Dave…
@onthethrottle7104 good point and if you don't pay of the debt then your family has to
Work harder and make more money. Taking debt out is not the solution.
Sorry to hear about the single father part - haven’t checked in here in a while
I think it is super brave of you expressing yourself the way you did, as you mentioned.. Most men won't feel comfortable sharing their emotions, so thank you for sharing your special moment with your kids. It was heartwarming to see how dirtbikes create those meaningful and special times, as a rider or as a parent/dad.
I have been riding dirt bikes since I was 13. I am now 68. I ride in the Nevada mountian desert most every week, for all of these years. I have never spent more that 3 grand for a dirt bike..... Beat the shit out of them. Enjoy them. $12K thoughts about a TH-cam dirt bike porn fantasy is of course fun! (which is why I watch this channel occasionally) When you are riding in the real world. The joy is riding. The bike is just a piece of metal rubber and oil, that you are having fun destroying!! I agree with you that riding a bike has been incredibly important for my mental health over the years. When you ride.... you cannot be up in your head..... My father first pointed this out to me when I was 17, about dirt bikes giving friend of his life saving purpose so many years ago.
I miss the release on my depression dirt bikes used to bring
I didn’t have a father to ride with or the help with bikes or college. I learned in Jr. high and high school to buy friends broken down stuff, fix it up, enjoy it for a while then sell it to fund the next project until I had what I wanted. Starting college I had to start over again and I flipped enough vehicles to pay for college while I also built my way back up to almost current year bikes again while in school. Fast forward a few decades and I now have a sizeable collection of restored vintage bikes along with a small fleet of Yamaha and KTM’s for different conditions...where there’s a will, there is a way.
Kyle, thanks for posting this video. I watched the entire thing outside noise and all. I haven’t ridden since 2019 with my son due to injuries and work and it sucks. It gets harder as the kids get older. I’ll probably have to sell my YZ250 due to Boeing probably going on strike in September along with this terrible economy. Hopefully get a new 25 Husky TX300 for next year. Appreciate what you have done for the dirt bike community 👍
Spend as much time as possible with your parents. We can go at any moment 🤠 UP
That’s why the other big three need to start making two strokes again how cool would that be .
I love how passionate you are about this, And men's mental health issues. ❤️
I was finally able to pick up a KLX 140 a few days ago. Unfortunately I am the only one in my family who has interest in them but maybe when my brother gets a little older he will pick up an interest in them as well. Although I don't have anyone to ride with I still have managed to have more fun on my bike in the past few days than I have ever have had beforehand from something I bought. If you are in the financial situation to buy one I would highly recommend picking up a bike especially if you have someone to ride with as I can only imagine it makes your experience riding more enjoyable.
I just bought a nice 2012 300 and I couldn’t be much happier. I wouldn’t have noticed something that costs $10,000 more and I can slowly make it my own. A bikes a ticket; you either have one, or you don’t.
That’s kinda my target bike as I switch from MX to enduro. You like the 2012 300?
I was at my lowest point financially and no job for most of 2016, I still went out to ride, adventuring around town and getting lost on county roads and it was probably a major highlight that got me to where I am today with my bikes.
I'm 48.My boy is 19.So far the Best time I spent riding with him!!!It is priceless.I also got emotional.I totally understand all you saying,Kyle!!
Its only as expensive as you make it , nothing wrong with old bikes fix them up and go enjoy the outdoors , people just want the best of most things & cause financial issues for them selves
Good advice. The last time I took out a loan was back in 2006. This translates to 3 motorcycles, 1 ATV, 2 boats, 5 vehicles, 78 acres of recreational property and my first home all paid for in cash. All I do is reverse the process. I pay myself a payment every month until I have the cash to buy something then go buy it. Turns out it’s really hard to build wealth when you give your entire paycheck to the bank in the form of payments every month and have too much money tied up in things that go down in value. The value of all my toys with engines that depreciate is less than half my annual income. You don’t need to be borrowing money to buy a toy that goes down in value. You’re not congress. But hey, you’re an adult and if you want to make unwise financial decisions, knock yourself out.
Bro thank you so much I hope my dad will start riding again but with the help to him I got a YZ250 and it’s a big step from a ttr 225, so much fun I can power wheelie now it’s a great release from the world😂 also thankful my dad has had me riding since 5🙏
Honestly can’t say enough in one paragraph thank you I’ve been watching your channel for a long time
Love this video glad you left your raw reaction to it and emotions in the video great perspective and advice to the young bloke trying to keep in touch with his dad!!
We rock with you man and thank you for everything you do. I just subscribed to your channel and I have already learned so much.
Kyle great answer and love the emotion my boys are 36 and 28 the greatest times we’ve had involve dirt bikes.
To this young man don’t know what kind of riding/racing you do but one thing that as worked for me and my boys is get to know the vet class and older riders many of them buy new bikes every 1,2,or three years and if they know you they will often help you out by giving you a smoking deal on a good used bike. Some of my boys favorite stories are when we bought used bikes and rebuilt them and ride or raced the hell out of them.
Great message.
You don't need a brand new top of the line enduro race bike to have a great time. If money is an issue and you want to pinch pennies - buy a used trail bike for $2000-$3000 and have a blast. They are usually much cheaper/easier to maintain as well.
This video has made me even more determined to get out there with my sons (and eventually daughter - she's 1). We can't afford our dream bikes now, but my klx250s, and their Rm80 and Chinese 60cc will do the job. Yesterday I bought a Garmin In-reach Mini 2 so we can ride and have the SOS safety button with us... I just need to wait a couple of weeks to have the money to pay for the satellite subscription!
Grew up riding Sleds, and Dirtbikes, in the Washington cascades, in the 80's with my dad. He's gone now, but those memories aren't, and still got pictures. I still get my Mom out In the mountains, on My spare mountain sled every once in a while too.
I completely understand what you're saying Kyle. My Dad passed away this passed Oct 12,2023 and I recall my 1st rm-80 I bought and later I was 15 and went to work in a restaurant so I could buy a Suzuki ltz-230 4 wheeler and when I eventually bought the 4 wheeler my Dad bought one also and I could not put into words the absolute fun that I had growing up riding with my Dad on 4 wheelers as well as him & my Mom taking me to ride my 1981 Suzuki rm-80. I still have a dirtbike but sadly I'm not able to ride nearly as much as I used to? 😢 Thanks Kyle for this video, it's been eye opening..
Solid advice from Kyle. I commend him.
Buy an old $2k dirt bike untill you have cash for a new KTM300
Yeah I feel like way too many guys think they need a bike made within the last 12 months but dude, they last a long time! Used bikes are AWESOME when they aren’t clapped out!
@@joshbartel7384I agree with that. I still have a 2011 KTM 300 xc and I've taken excellent care of it and it runs great!
Gotta make sacrifices, some times we just have to go without for a while. Putting yourself in debt for a toy is a bad idea.
Great advice, work hard and make good choices. You'll get there sooner than you think and it'll be that much sweeter.
Totally agree with everything said Kyle, although I enjoy riding with my buddies, I absolutely love riding with my two sons 23 & 11 in the trails. My 7 year old daughter is not far from trail riding as well. Best times ever
No free lunch in dirt bikes. It's pay to play big time. I was in college and got a second job at nights because I was sick of putting off getting a bike. bought a 2003 japaneses 2 stroke and learned to work on it from youtube videos. bought cheaper parts on ebay when thing broke. It's been the biggest motivator to live my life on my terms and is super fulfilling.
I got a CR125 that I absolutely love. Great thing about Japanese bikes, they can take a beating and keep rolling. The KTM bikes are nice but they are very sensitive and parts are more expensive.
I rode a little as a kid. I was finally able to get a bike "on my own" (loan) at 30 years old, I immediately started trail riding and racing as much as possible with relative monetary ease. Bike is long paid off but ever since our executive administration changed in 2020 and inflation has absolutely run amok, I can no longer ride regularly, let alone race. I was able to be patient and wait for things to come to me after putting in a lot of work.... I was never happier than finally getting back on the bike. I have never been more devastated than to lose riding for a second time. I feel like I was told to go to college, get a good job, make something of yourself.... I did all that. I should be reaping the rewards of that but instead I get to struggle to pay for groceries and pay the utility bill. I get by but motorcycles are right out. Make your money, hold your breath and keep hoping for the future.
What brings a tear of joy to my eye is to look in my DRZ's rear view mirror and see my son right behind me.
Great advice. Very good video
Started riding at 8 yrs old, took a break when I had to sell my bike at 15 to buy a car. Took a 7 year break until I afford to get back into the sport just picked up a 24 te300 pro
FWIW, great advice, Kyle.
i bought a $500 dirtbike from the 70s and i am going to race it i need some luck.
You'll need a mechanic also 😂
Me right now, paying for school to become a pilot, while also trying to balance hobbies. Truck is almost paid off. But man do I want a new bike
Don't pay for flight school that's crazy. Let the military pay for it.
@@kurtheidelbach I’m already licensed and working on my commercial license, I did think of the military route, but it’s a career change, I’m 28. I’ve absolutely considered military. Still am honestly.
@@Flash1776_ I'm a retired military pilot. Always blows my mind seeing people spend money on ratings and then on top of that building time when they can do it for free and make a whole lot more early on while doing it. Plus, the flying is a whole lot more exciting LOL. If you have plenty of money to waste and just want to be a boring part 135 of part 121 guy it's OK though. Everyone has different reasons though. Plus, a paycheck for the rest of your life isn't bad either. The good news is you can get on with the airlines with a TON less hours now then you could in the past.
@@kurtheidelbach that’s awesome! Thank you for your service! I really don’t really have a huge preference. The goal would be major airlines someday, but I’m not going to be picky. I borrowed money from myself, a life insurance policy created by my parents when I was young, so I’m paying myself back money I’ll eventually get when I retire. Ideal? No. But it’s also not a worst case scenario. Hindsight I do wish I had joined the military right of high school and started flying when I was younger, but I’m just glad I’m doing it now.
@@Flash1776_ A great career for sure!
Everyone’s financial situation is different, so it impossible to address every unique one. I would say, while hard, be patient. Next set goals, short term and long term. Last, try to find things you can do now that are fulfilling. For me, it was mtn biking until I could afford a motor. I still like mtn bikes and it is good physical fitness while on a trail.
I ride a 2006 KTM 450EXC and found a good for $2k. There's nothing wrong with the technology on 20 year old bikes! Sure they have TPI and TBI now, not much else has changed! A well maintained bike can still bring years of pleasure.
I'm 57 yrs old....I started riding at age 6 on a 2.5hp purple chopper minibike!!! LMAO Then went to a Honda Trail 70 (the tank!) Then an XR 75, YZ 80, Yamaha DT 125 (hated it!) then CR 125, CR 250 etc....stopped riding in my late 30's for many of the reasons cited in the video. Got married, bought a house, new car and so on (no kids....eventually adopted a girl). I just got back into motocross and hare scrambles after being off a dirt bike for 25+ years (have had a HD Softail Classic since 2007) !!!
Last year I bought a 2023 KTM SX-F 350 and it was the best decision I've made in many YEARS!!! Every single time I lay eyes on my bike, I see my Dad in the pit, trying to ride (he never could! LOL). My dad is the one who bought my first 3 -4 bikes (I never even asked). My mom and dad would pack a cooler and drive to the pit (we had a monster dirt pit and trails 1/4 mile from the house as I grew up in the woods in NJ). My Dad is no longer here but I still get emotional sometimes when I walk into the garage and I can smell the 2 stroke Bel Ray oil in my head, and see my dad with a big smile as we ride.
My last year of college I doubled my student loans from the previous year and bought a brand new wr250. Got it plated, left my car at home, and never looked back. As an adult now, I would never finance something I can’t pay off within a year, but your also only 22 once. Be stupid, work hard, and it will cancel out
I thought you took off to strangle
concrete cutter man🤣
I’m turning 26 next week and I need to get back on a back asap. However, I am very happy I decided to pay off all debt and buy a car in cash as well as accumulate 6 figs in assets before pursuing this. Maxxing out my HSA then I’m going to finance a new bike if there’s an APR special or buy it in cash 🤝
Hey man I already ordered some items off rocky mountain just wondering if there is any way to still get in on that
Hold up, so many of us going thru the same thing.
Long story,short as possible. We both had bikes back in 2022. We've been riding since he was 3yrs old. Kid was 11yrs old and rode my Crf450r. He went from a 50cc 4 wheeler, XR70, CRF150R, TE250 to his current stead.
Fast forward and one bad divorce later. He and I came back in touch with one another after a year apart. First thing he said " I need to buy a new bike dad" this crushed me because his bike was part of the divorce due to legal ownership etc. So it was sold off to pay legal expenses. My ex absolutely cleaned me out.
Now he owns a 2023 Gas Gas EX450f, I own a 2022 Husqvarna FX450. We just went on our first ride this past weekend, for his breakin period. He just bought it new, left over stock. He got one hell of a deal, $8k..
Been hitting the biceps eh Kyle ! 💪🏻
It can be a joy and a harsh reality that you’re getting old when your kid kicks the butts of you and you’re buddies on fancy new bikes with your old retired YZ250X. Gets even worse when he does it with an old WR250Z or KDX200... I’m making him work for it next time on a XR250R...lol
KDX200. You can pick up a really nice one for around $3,000 or $3,500. Fantastic trail bikes and bomb proof reliable
Great video man. I appreciate the honest emotion. Kid if you're reading this you could also get a used bike or a cheaper air cooled trail bike for the time being and wait on that 11k ktm until you're out of school. Just a thought.
Keep the rubber side down fellas 🤙🏻
Dont sleep on the 230’s or crf 250f! Unless its big nasty desert country, they really can take you a lot of places!!!
I’m a member of CCDR “Cahokia creek dirt riders” in white city IL along with my dad. I’m 36 and my dad is 66 but my 15, 12, and 8 year old all ride right now. And I have a 1-1/2 and 5 month old that once old enough will ride. I tried to talk my wife into learning but this is how I get to spend a lot of time with my boys. I get up everyday and bust my ass at work for them. My 8 yr old has a 2024 yz65 and my 12 yr old just got a rm85 that’s a 06. I ride a 02 rm250 and my oldest rides my dad’s Klx300 but I’m looking for a 2 stroke 125 for him now and my dad is getting a Beta 300. Being part of the club has helped so much in me getting my bike and my kids getting bikes. I have a KTM50 and drz70 also that once my youngest one outgrows I’m probably going to give it away to someone that don’t have the money to buy one. Maybe I can get a kid into riding and keep them out of trouble.
Another great option that is much more approachable for many people is to buy an old dual sport that doesn't need expensive rebuilds, constant oil changes and expensive austrian parts. I have a 97 Suzuki dr350 that i regularly take on technical single track, mountain roads, sand, desert, etc. Lots of these bikes can be had for $2,000 and are incredibly reliable. They can also be used as commuters at college to save some money on gas vs having a car. Many times, no bike is the best option of you cant afford it. But my point is, theres a lot of fun to be had between no bike, and a $12,000 ktm 300xcw
Couldn’t agree more. Good video brother. New sub here. Guys that are lower on funds. If you’re somewhat handy with a wrench buy a used 2T and fix it up. Have fun guys!
People talk about this sport being expensive but it's still relatively cheap compared to many others out there. Heck, a new base wakeboard boat is 125K. There is never a time you should finance a motorcycle. If you have to finance a motorcycle that means one of two things. You haven't saved enough money yet or you are buying more motorcycle than you can afford. The same thing is true for vehicles. People think they "deserve" things they can't afford, and finance vehicles then wonder why they don't have money later.
Dirt bike riding can be a little expensive but people tend to not realise that its a motor sport and its by far the cheapest motor sport there is, it’s the common man’s motor sport 😂 and by far the best
Dirt bike riding can be a little expensive but people tend to not realise that its a motor sport and its by far the cheapest motor sport there is, it’s the common man’s motor sport 😂 and by far the best
100% I used to do 4wding and overlanding, that shit is expensive and boring compared to dirtbikes
$3k gets you a decent bike nowadays. $1k truck, and couple hundred dollars in gear, and you’re there. I started out with a $700 1981 kdx 400, and slowly sold and moved up to what I have, which is 2 bikes.
You inspire me
Great share 🙌
I’m in the season that I can afford it now better than before but I’m too busy to build and maintain a track on my farm. Time to switch over to enduro.
i mean you do not need these over priced new gen ktms to have the exact same fun on a dirt bike, you could pick up a yamaha ttr230 or crf230f for less than the prices of a ps5 and without worrying of the price of maintanance.
I was in the same predicament many many many years back. I sold my YZ so I could pay for my last year of college. I missed not having a bike to ride but I lived through it. As you get older you'll find that your priorities change, and sacrifices have to be made. Do not take out a loan to buy a bike, you'll regret it especially if your living on your own and the realities of paying rent and life's everyday expenses slap you in the face. Once I got my carer on track and had disposable income I bought a bike. It was a barely used 2003 KX500. I still have it to this day. Yes, I'm a old dude I'm 62 and the older I get the faster I was. Damn was i fast. Riding was a big part of my life as it is to most of us that started young. You'll be OK. Get your career on track start making small financial investments for the future and then buy a bike.
I sold my dirt bike when I was 21 to help my collegue years and start a small business. After 2-3 years I already forgot I loved dirt bikes. I became a successfull entreprenuer and faced a lot of mental issues and needed to let the steam out. After 11 years I found my way back to the church of dirt and never leaving. Today my sons and riding too with pws and they love it. What a blessing 😊
I also agree financing a dirt bike is not the move, at least in general. Like if you’re going to put $7k down and finance 1-2k so you can get that brand new WR450 or something then I can understand that and not wanting to wait a few more months to acquire that cash but absolutely do not finance a bike if you can’t realistically pay it off in a few months at most. If you have to finance the entire 9/10k then you likely can’t really afford the payments as is. Save money and grind for it. The bikes will still be here for the foreseeable future. Don’t put yourself into a financial tumble just to get a bike. Wait till it makes sense.
I’m going to try keep a bike throughout my life even it’s is ancient 😂🙏🏼
Don't go into debt 10k for a bike. You can get a great used smoker for 3 k , it'll be cheaper and more fun.
Absolutely dude. I have a pretty crisp 04 Cr125 and it’s an absolute blast.
Go get a ktm dual sport bike. Street legal so you can use it as a primary vehicle. You can rent a truck if need be anyway and with gas prices it’s an even better choice.
amen
Ammon. Do NOT buy a bike on payments. And do NOT buy a truck on payments. Those payments ate shackles. Save your pennies, work hard, save hard. Buy used. You will be better off in the long run.
If he wants to get out there with his dad occasionally, he could also try renting a bike for the day.
Your kids will remember the shit out of all those trips riding believe me
Get a used crf250f
My 2 cents: Dirt bikes are a nice to have thing, not a need to have. There are lots of ways to spend time with family and friends that are very inexpensive or cost nothing. Hiking, camping, fishing, simple team ball ⚽️ sports. Ever wonder why most of the world plays and is so enthusiastic about soccer? All you need is a ball and a place to play and you are all set. Simple inexpensive fun. Sure I like to ride and will continue to do so as long as I can afford to. But if can’t afford it, it’s gone and I do other things I enjoy.
It sure doesn’t help anything now that people think they all need fancy fuel injected electronic hard enduro machines with the latest suspension tech. 10-12K for a bike! Then you need a truck to transport it, tools to maintain it, riding gear, etc. Does that sound affordable for most people? Not really IMHO. All this fancy complex stuff has really cut a lot of people out of the sport. All you really need is a simple bike and some reasonable riding areas to have some fun. It doesn’t have to be hard enduro and all the fancy expensive stuff that goes along with it. Keep it fun and simple and more people can afford to ride.
Look for bike close-outs. Seeing 24 gas gas ec300 for $7500 new, ex300 $7200, and gas gas 125 mx bike $5000 new. These are basically same as KTM and Husky.
Last year Yz250x in west areas being sold for $6000-$7000 new. These are thousands less than normal. I got son a 2018 RMZ450 for $6300 out door, new. Pre-covid prices are coming back. Used market soft. I sold ktm150 with 60 hours for $5500. Hardly a scratch. Market has dropped because of economy.
I started riding dirt bikes when I was 15yrs old I am now 65 and still riping up the trails but how the hell are these kids buying these bikes now unless there parents are stinking rich or there selling drugs
Agreed👍
My biggest question is, why college?
Prices on dirt bikes are starting to be like cars- outrageous- and making payments have oddly become a normal thing. There are PLENTY of good, used bikes, for all ages, for sale. Buying one that needs some work is still WAY cheaper. Having a dirt bike note is absolutely ridiculous, period. If you get a bike you will have to learn maintenance anyway, and there’s not much to them.
Can you do some kid bikes content? Like little kids starter bikes?
I ride about 15 hours a month. What i cant afford is my current 2023 300xc has a random bog. Started around 20 hr, and i have thrown over $1000 in parts, ktm will not step in and dealer(actually 2 different) feel its going to be hard to find and fix, and they are $130/hr. Yea, over the last 20 years I’ve read the forum users or people online with issues, and we brush it off as a rare occurrence. But when you finally get one, and are locked out of the ecu, and is all electronic including the power valve actuator, you find yourself in a repair desert. Last Sunday the bike bogged and I broke 2 ribs and got my spleen. I feel stuck with this bike, still going at ktm cause this an electrical glitch…not getting into the massive amount of parts and time spent plus guinee pigging this thing until it hurt me.
lol, On edit, i started writing this because of the title, but as i wrote this dude started weeping about his kids…i just went with it anyways. Typing my issues of affordability to the sound of tears..
What kinds of things have you tried?
@@RowleyFilmz -Replaced inline fuel filter multiple times
-Replaced fuel pump pick up filter($60)
-Tested old fuel pump(48psi) and replaced with new fuel pump, with part number ending in 200(supposedly updated)($275)
-stripped down and checked wire harness, also with bike running trying to move wires to find short.
-pulled all connections looking for issues
-changed spark plug 3 times, plugs always looked good, never fouled one, currently tried a 7 range plug.($25)
-had dealer update software and look for codes, there were none($130)
-did top end(used vortex oem piston)and pulled and cleaned power valve at 37 hr per ktm customer service advice($350)
-Set power valve to 48mm
-Adjusted tps to .400 volts, reset tps with wake up connector and 3 throttle twists(multiple time)
-recalibrated power valve on both maps multiple time
-changed ccps twice, even used sealant on last one to be sure wasn’t leaking($120)
-current compression is 208, was 196 before top end at 37hr
-tried different fuels, one was an ethanol free 93 octane
-unplugged battery for 10 min(no ideal why, grasping for straws)
@@mark_Hershey wow that’s so weird. I’m currently trying to deal with my bike randomly bogging down every once in a while when in gear with the clutch pulled in (on a 22 TE300i). I just got a obd2 reader and adapter for my bike. I set my rpms to spec. It was running good but I got out on the trail it started being weird. Usually cranking up the idle helps with the issue (I also need to learn how to mess with the air bypass screw. Still haven’t found the right setting for that).
I’m thinking I need to take my reader on the trail with me and see what my rpms are doing while all the way to temp for trail riding. I’ve been dealing the issue since I got the bike (got bike at used at 20 hrs and it now has just over 40). I read that changing the ccps might also help me as a lot of times when that is bad it seems to have a sporatic idle?
Who knows. Fingers crossed that works 🤞. I was hoping to think of suggestions that I’ve seen but it sounds like you’ve covered everything that I’ve come across in my research. Good luck to you finding out what’s wrong with your bike. Seems like it’s been a pain.
The tpi’s suffered from ccps more, their sensors are different and more likely to crack or leak and that would absolutely cause what you’re dealing with. Also, top end maintenance is 15 hours, it’s in your manual. Yea it’s ridiculously short interval, but the reason I bring it up is too much blow by into the crankcase can mess with the ccps. Another thing is learn how to check tps and adjust it. My issue isn’t the same as yours. My bike runs incredible, but once in wile it will just not take throttle. I jump a lot and it’s dangerous, it got me. If I just trail rode it would just be annoying.
Get outside with your family do something together while you can !
You don't have to spend 10k+ on a new bike, just to ride with your dad. Look for a used Yamaha, 250x, or 250f, should be able to pick up at a reasonable price.
We need another Hodaka, bikes at a more reasonable cost. Most people don't race or need state of the art competition bikes but better performance than these entry level 4 strokes. If politics didn't get in the way maybe we could.
If you want to ride but can't afford a 10k bike, then by a used YZ250.
Not having the money to get what you want sux ,but paying off a loan sux more , bide your time ,do a second job ,save save save
Cheap used bike! Go for it!
Why would you get emotional he's trying to pull at your heart strings for somthing free if you can't afford it then you can't do it its common sense your just gonna have to wait until you can afford it every 2 years I buy a bike I save up for them until I can buy it do not finance a dirt bike it's ignorant it crazy someone In college would ask that ignorant of a question well unless they have altirier motives
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Kinda lame at least get used bike or rc hobby ye can be cheap and is fun