I've wanted to do an all motor build on my S2000, so happy i found this channel! A lot of knowledge and you also have an all motor build which is awesome!
im very glad to find this channel i stayed interested the entire video and i love the way things were explained thanks for the great video i hope you continue to make more
Great vid! i have 2 Ap1s, a 2000 and a 2002. My 2000 has a hard top and i dont run a passenger seat. it has a Teketa intake, 255 squared with Potenza 200 tw tires on 17' 949 racing 6ULs, Test pipe and Invida dual exit exhaust. My 2002 has a Invida single exit exhaust. My 2000 is 2620lbs now, Hopefully when i swap over the exhaust it will be 2600lbs. love what your doing with your car. I had a e46 M3 for 7 years and it was just so heavy. These cars really are one of the best sports cars ever made.RAW!
I used to build Honda engines over 15 years ago. When dialing in vtec crossover I was never able to lower vtec more 500rpm without a power dip. Tuning the air intake length helps with the low end. Velocity stack also helps. Good luck
This is great content. I never thought of milling the cylinder head retarding the timing. Makes sense due to the linkages being the same but the distance being shorter. One small thing you may want to consider, when you narrate, maybe run your recording through a white noise filter. That's what I do and it seems to improve the perceived quality of the audio. Excited to see the results.
I have done this set up thanks to your videos car runs great but I have noticed these cams have a whine or whistle to them does yours do that? Other than that I love the set up.
Awesome build series! I'm looking to build my AP1 and wanna know if you think the Ballade cam & header along with an exhaust is a good start and worth the $? Thanks in advance for your words of wisdom.
I have a question in regards to timing. I am running this same setup, but when it comes to timing, am I looking just put all the marks in line at TDC as if though its stock (regardless of what the adj timing gear reads), or am I looking to advance the timing of the cams 2-3 degrees specifically when crank/timing gear are at TDC? If the question is unclear, let me know and I can do my best to elaborate more as to what I'm asking.
at 11:13 when you talk about valvetrain design of the K series and F series, it reminds me of a comparison that i found out. The F series and the K series can be traced back to the Honda H series engine. The amount of stuff that are similar is uncanny. There is a reason why many companies made "F to H" or "K to H" intake manifold adapters. I look at the F20C or F22C engine as a perfected H series. It has all the good stuff with none of the drawbacks. On H22's and H23's the biggest problem was the horrible rod-stroke ratio that caused the crankshaft to be very fragile at high rpm. A lot of H guys used to run these t 8k rpm or more. This issue has been fixed in the honda s2000 from what ive seen. Also the S2000 has those really beefy conrods that help with strength. And the FRM is better integrated to the engine block as well it seems. F20C/F22C is such an incredible engineering feat that it still boggles my mind how they developed it in the 90s. Also, since H series cranks are hard to get now some are using K24 cranks instead, just needs a little bit of modification but still fits.
Agreed on the FC timing system being better than the K series. Though I would expect it to be since the FC wasn't quite as mass produced as the K series.
I’m kind of surprised that no manufacturer, to my knowledge, has a single larger cam “lobe” that ramps up smoothly, picture a curved metal shape. The follower would ride up the curve as the cam moved smoothly back and forth thru the rev range. No steps, just a smooth ramp.
I know this question has nothing to do with this video, but love your videos a you have a very tastefully modified s2000 an seem to have plenty of knowledge of the car. Ok my question is, would lightweight crank pulley hurt the engine?
Please believe me and do yourself a favor, lower the vtec much more. Adding the ballade cams on my fully built f22 allowed me to go as deep as 3500rpm and my tuner picked up a ton of torque and power down there. Its not true that higher vtec is faster. Its night and day and my car feels as if it hade more displacement with this mod. At least test on the dyno and you will see. 👆
@@TheSlipAngle yeah that confirms my experience as well 😎 looking forward to the next video and dyno numbers. I am around 245 whp on my f22 with the ballade cams.
The numbers are VERY important. I'm surprised you haven't used one of the many engine simulators to pick a cam. I found out that few if any of the cams I looked at had what I wanted for lower rpm performance. Also, putting a more aggressive cam in non-vtec usually kills power unless you have higher compression pistons. You can tune the cam timing independently too. Take your cams and measure them your way, so you have apples to apples comparison, although ramp slope is also a factor. p.s. My cams totally made power everywhere, but because I spec'd them for my engine config. If you just buy an off-the-shelf cam results are almost always a small gamble. PLEASE stop dismissing the data and rednecking it, only to then say you are explaining stuff to us (before you even dyno the car.) You can do better.
I have raised compression. If you have something like VTEC then sure you can make more power everywhere, that comment was for standard cam engines. You have to give up something somewhere to gain something somewhere else. I'm sorry you feel like I'm dismissing data and rednecking it whatever that means. You cannot use a simulator to account for every single mod on the engine and how it will interact with a certain cam profile. The beauty of having freedom of choice is that we can choose what content we to take time out of our lives to consume or not anonymous person with zero content, zero data uploaded.
I've wanted to do an all motor build on my S2000, so happy i found this channel! A lot of knowledge and you also have an all motor build which is awesome!
Awesome, thank you!
im very glad to find this channel i stayed interested the entire video and i love the way things were explained thanks for the great video i hope you continue to make more
I had no idea that Gangster Osaka was an S2000 tuner!!
Love this series
Loving the S2K content…..keep it coming. Regards Kev 😊👍
Thank you 👍 More is still on the way!
Great vid! i have 2 Ap1s, a 2000 and a 2002. My 2000 has a hard top and i dont run a passenger seat. it has a Teketa intake, 255 squared with Potenza 200 tw tires on 17' 949 racing 6ULs, Test pipe and Invida dual exit exhaust. My 2002 has a Invida single exit exhaust. My 2000 is 2620lbs now, Hopefully when i swap over the exhaust it will be 2600lbs. love what your doing with your car. I had a e46 M3 for 7 years and it was just so heavy. These cars really are one of the best sports cars ever made.RAW!
Right on!
Shooting knowledge out like a true pro! Awesome install vid too.. cant wait to see how well this performs
Thanks you Bobby!
Great video. Learnt alot about the s2k but also car engineering in general. Excellent content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I used to build Honda engines over 15 years ago. When dialing in vtec crossover I was never able to lower vtec more 500rpm without a power dip. Tuning the air intake length helps with the low end. Velocity stack also helps. Good luck
Thanks for sharing!
Excellent episode!
Thanks Jim!
Thanks for the attention to detail on the info provided 👌🏾👌🏾.
Do you have a public full list of your aftermarket parts and mods 👀?!?
In the intro video for this series I go over the entire build
Great vid man, watched it all while on my drive to work.. wanna know how the tuning goes with this cam, stay healthy man
Thank you brother
This is great content. I never thought of milling the cylinder head retarding the timing. Makes sense due to the linkages being the same but the distance being shorter.
One small thing you may want to consider, when you narrate, maybe run your recording through a white noise filter. That's what I do and it seems to improve the perceived quality of the audio.
Excited to see the results.
That’s the oldest trick in the book been around for over 50 years now
I have done this set up thanks to your videos car runs great but I have noticed these cams have a whine or whistle to them does yours do that? Other than that I love the set up.
Yep all our ballade cams whine!
Completely unrelated but for the js racing intake did you actually have to cut the hood ? Super curious
Yes you do or you can buy a hood like mine with the provision for it already built in
Thank you! Now I can make a decision for an intake. I got a lot of mixed information on weather or not the hood needed to be cut or not and now I know
hey what was your idle sitting still in neutral with the ballade cams?
850
Thanks for extra detailed cam install. Not alot of well done videos out there for this.
Thank you Kyle!
koenigsegg proved that camless theory and made absolutely outstanding horsepower out of a small motor. Great series
Awesome build series! I'm looking to build my AP1 and wanna know if you think the Ballade cam & header along with an exhaust is a good start and worth the $? Thanks in advance for your words of wisdom.
If you want to keep the car N/A with stock compression, then yes I can't think of a better header/cam combo off hand.
I have a question in regards to timing. I am running this same setup, but when it comes to timing, am I looking just put all the marks in line at TDC as if though its stock (regardless of what the adj timing gear reads), or am I looking to advance the timing of the cams 2-3 degrees specifically when crank/timing gear are at TDC? If the question is unclear, let me know and I can do my best to elaborate more as to what I'm asking.
Advancing will probably make more power
I had the Crower 402s on a B16 and the vtec screamed.
What camera are you filming with?
Canon EOS R6
I would like to see a back to back dyno comparison.
Logistically this would have been a lot of time and work
at 11:13 when you talk about valvetrain design of the K series and F series, it reminds me of a comparison that i found out. The F series and the K series can be traced back to the Honda H series engine. The amount of stuff that are similar is uncanny.
There is a reason why many companies made "F to H" or "K to H" intake manifold adapters. I look at the F20C or F22C engine as a perfected H series. It has all the good stuff with none of the drawbacks. On H22's and H23's the biggest problem was the horrible rod-stroke ratio that caused the crankshaft to be very fragile at high rpm.
A lot of H guys used to run these t 8k rpm or more. This issue has been fixed in the honda s2000 from what ive seen. Also the S2000 has those really beefy conrods that help with strength. And the FRM is better integrated to the engine block as well it seems.
F20C/F22C is such an incredible engineering feat that it still boggles my mind how they developed it in the 90s. Also, since H series cranks are hard to get now some are using K24 cranks instead, just needs a little bit of modification but still fits.
Re-reading my comment it seems like im a huge h series stan lol. Its just that im so impressed with what honda achieved and experimented with.
The F-Series will forever be my favorite Honda engine ❤️
Any whining noise you guys have?
The BCs made noise for the first 15 minutes of running or so. The Ballade units were silent.
@@TheSlipAngle Weird.. My ballade has a slight whine : (
What air intake do you have on the car? Thanks!
J's Racing
Agreed on the FC timing system being better than the K series. Though I would expect it to be since the FC wasn't quite as mass produced as the K series.
I will always hold that the F is the better engine. iVTEC aside.
If the timing chain drops it doesn't matter. There's a piece of aluminum to catch it and let it hang for you
Good to know!
Dude ! Spitting off the top of the dome . Again lol
lol years of filling my head with ricer knowledge.
I’m kind of surprised that no manufacturer, to my knowledge, has a single larger cam “lobe” that ramps up smoothly, picture a curved metal shape. The follower would ride up the curve as the cam moved smoothly back and forth thru the rev range.
No steps, just a smooth ramp.
you would ultimately be increasing duration if you did that which in turn yields more overlap
I know this question has nothing to do with this video, but love your videos a you have a very tastefully modified s2000 an seem to have plenty of knowledge of the car. Ok my question is, would lightweight crank pulley hurt the engine?
If it doesn't have a harmonic balancer yes it will
@@TheSlipAngle but a lightweight flywheel is ok?
Mmmm...shafts.
MattCHEW.
lol
Please believe me and do yourself a favor, lower the vtec much more. Adding the ballade cams on my fully built f22 allowed me to go as deep as 3500rpm and my tuner picked up a ton of torque and power down there. Its not true that higher vtec is faster. Its night and day and my car feels as if it hade more displacement with this mod. At least test on the dyno and you will see. 👆
Did exactly the same on my DC5 Type R. VTEC in @4000. What a difference. Picked up torque everywhere, loads of difference below 6000rpm.
We already tuned and dyno'ed the setup. Without giving anything away, I'll just say we settled with VTEC at 4k ;)
@@TheSlipAngle yeah that confirms my experience as well 😎 looking forward to the next video and dyno numbers. I am around 245 whp on my f22 with the ballade cams.
V-TEC BRO
bwaaaaaaaaAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Honda ricer boi meets Bill Nye
I sense VTEC envy from your poor little BP :P
@@TheSlipAngle Dave should be VTECing in the NA soon right?!?!?!
The numbers are VERY important. I'm surprised you haven't used one of the many engine simulators to pick a cam. I found out that few if any of the cams I looked at had what I wanted for lower rpm performance. Also, putting a more aggressive cam in non-vtec usually kills power unless you have higher compression pistons. You can tune the cam timing independently too. Take your cams and measure them your way, so you have apples to apples comparison, although ramp slope is also a factor.
p.s. My cams totally made power everywhere, but because I spec'd them for my engine config. If you just buy an off-the-shelf cam results are almost always a small gamble. PLEASE stop dismissing the data and rednecking it, only to then say you are explaining stuff to us (before you even dyno the car.) You can do better.
I have raised compression. If you have something like VTEC then sure you can make more power everywhere, that comment was for standard cam engines. You have to give up something somewhere to gain something somewhere else. I'm sorry you feel like I'm dismissing data and rednecking it whatever that means. You cannot use a simulator to account for every single mod on the engine and how it will interact with a certain cam profile. The beauty of having freedom of choice is that we can choose what content we to take time out of our lives to consume or not anonymous person with zero content, zero data uploaded.