DYNO! S2000 All Motor Tuning Mini Series
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2021
- Today we wrap up the tuning and go for final numbers on Project AP1 S2000 to see what the sum of the new mods make! The results were SHOCKING!
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The Honda S2000 ROCKS
It's a Legend in its own right!
I Love these overview videos! Its really refreshing seeing NA setups rather than FI. It's much more raw and pure and it's amazing to see the trial/error in research to achieve that .
Right on man!
Even as an ‘experienced’ NA car enthusiast I’m still learning from your videos, great stuff 👍🏻
Thank you Randy!
That's a great video man!At last someone's tuning he F20c the proper n/a way.I think that the dream f20c is n/a,revving and making power till 9500rpm with a c/r somewhere between 12.8-13.2 and itbs!A light(2500-2600lb) s2000 with 240-250whp from 2lit is the perfect n/a s2000.Keep on the great job!
Agreed! Maybe 2.2L for a little extra ooomph down low ;)
Excellent briefing and explanation over technical matters !!! Great to see that a N/A S2k is still a viable option for those wanting to stay true to the original form and not go the crazy boosted route ... I personally approve and prefer your way of exploring every last drop of performance in the original Aspiration and keeping attention to all the little details that eventually add up ... Keep up the S2k videos ... They draw more attention and views i believe ....
We are excited to test the new setup on track next year. We have a Slip Angle Episode coming for it soon with the old setup so it will be nice to see how the new setup compares on track having a solid baseline
Never thought you could squeeze that much more power out of an N/A F series. This is incredible!
Us either! Thank you!
The fact that it is the f20 engine and still made that much power is amazing ! I’ve had a bad experience with the kraftwerks kit and will be going back to NA. Can’t wait for it !
Amazing results, that is a huge gain across the rev range, well done.
Yes it was!
Great setup and results! Impressive torque gain throughout the entire rpm range!! very nice
Thank you!
I love this s2000 build, all motor baby.
I want to see this thing on the road!!!! LETS GO!!!!
s2k looking good and sounding even better
Awesome setup and informative video
Glad you liked it!
Great videos. Will be ordering a ballade sports header for my Itb build! Appreciate the knowledge.
I think this is great, I had no mechanical background but I completely understand what you're saying.
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Nice video!
Thank you!
I’m a big fan of Alex and his work. I have a lot of his parts on my AP2. If you ever head to San Diego you are welcome to give mine a rip.
Great video
Thanks!
Can’t wait to one day own an s2000, this series makes we want one even more! Some of the best Japanese cars ever made. Behind the Fd of course ;)
I love the detail you went into on this build. I have a AP2, and I definitely want to do some similar things to the NA tuning (really want ITB's also)
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice. Let’s see that drag race, I know New England winter hasn’t kicked in yet. Thanks for the content.
We'll get it done!
Well sold me on which header to buy. Going to try this header/cam combo out on my AP2 and see how much more power we can pull out of it 👍🏻
This thing sounds so mean now, so much power gain! Glad this setup worked out
Us too! lol
Your set up is my dream S2000, hope I will be able to buy one soon and tune it just like yours, for now I'll stick with my NB
Hope to see videos of the new setup driving hard on your channel !
They're coming!
Love the content bro!! 👍👍
Glad to hear it!
Awesome to see someone else out there going down the same path I am. I have an all motor F22C with untouched bottom end, stock compression, and stock can that made 239whp last year with burnt exhaust valves and 220psi on each cylinder.
I had the head rebuilt and refurbished to factory condition and did not shave it. I'll be installing the PLM race header in 1-2 weeks to replace my Megan V2 header, and the rest of the exhaust is nearly identical to yours. I am running the K&N true cold air intake (in the front bumper) which is one of the bigger differences we have. I'm hoping the better header and refreshed head back to 240psi on all four cylinders will be enough to put it near 250whp. And then perhaps I'll go for the Ballade or Brian Cower cams to lock it in.
Tons of fun though. I loved this video because everything you described was like an identical replay of my life in the last 12 months where I experimented with several different setups, exhausts, and relentlessly browsing S2Ki to scrape together any amount of factual information that could help. The exhaust (as you know) on the S2000 is ultra finicky with even the smallest change causing the power band to shift, go up, or go down.
The only thing I wish played out better was the new Ballade 70mm single exhaust (ASM remake). I placed an order back in April or May back when it was first announced, and the expected ship date was in June. They went through some delays and I think I waited until August or September before I cancelled the order and ordered the EVS SSP 70mm and custom modified it for a very very quiet street experience that sounds fantastic at 5500+ RPM.
Anyway, again, loved the video. Let me know if you have an email and we can get in contact since we have nearly identical goals for our S2000's.
Thanks for watching brother. You can contact us through our website slipanglemedia.com
I love these videos
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Hey! I wanted to throw this out there as a video idea since you’re running a Haltech. I have one as well and decided to delete the air pump and EGR valve. It saves a bit of weight and cleans up the engine bay; no CEL on that ECU. Just did this mod myself!
Been following your Ap1 for q long time. Really like this set up. Getting ready to build my f20. Think I’m going to copy you and base my NA build around what you did. Save myself a trial and error headache😅.
Awesome brother
Nice gains but i think other intake add more power. Buy 3,5" pipes and elbows and test on dyno the lenght. What is the best for this setup.
Veri gud content. Much like
The Graph is really good now.
Much much better!
Definitely enjoyed the video. However after watching, my inner car dork is wanting "moar compression!!!" Thanks again for the content and keeping me engaged in a relatively mild Miata build on my end. Need to reach out to Maruha-san about 1.6 intake cams.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, Quinn for making great videos. Probably my favorite automotive channel. I love how technically detailed and no nonsense these videos get. I can really nerd out watching these. I've been following since the nb itb miata videos back a few years ago and you even offered more info to me personally when I had questions. I love the S2000 as well and love the approach to tuning this car. It's the way I would approach it as I am a fan of finely tuned n/a engines. By the way, I was wondering if you still had the RX-8 and if so, if you had more plans for further tuning. I loved that series as well and actually was hoping for more n/a rotary tuning. I know there's really not much you can do n/a with the renesis engine, but what about, say, lightened rotors, porting, or induction system tuning? Not necessarily for chasing big hp numbers, which wouldn't really be possible to do on a street rotary, unless you swapped to a 20b triple rotary (which would be missing the point of a somewhat budget build), but more for the way the engine delivers that power or increasing engine response and redline?
I still have the RX-8. I've kind of exhaust the N/A mods on it without porting the engine. I'd love a 20b but they are so damn expensive now.
Man I love your channel based on your knowledge on how everything in a build all works together.
It’s not just slapping on parts
We appreciate that!
Love the new sound, very unique.
The new header pairing definitely changed the tone. I dig it
Before the S2K went over 7500 rpm, after the VTEC changeover, it almost sounded like a Mercedes AMG GT3 V8. It’s different, and it sounds absolutely insane. Once past 7500 rpm, it’s just demon time for the S2K
One of the most exciting 4 cyl engines :)
Would love to see you go all the way like you did with the NB and put ITBs on the s2000
ITBs just come with their share of headaches. This car just works really well right now it's hard for me to pull the trigger on them.
@@TheSlipAngle That's understandable. It's easy for me to suggest stuff like this when I'm not the one who has to do the work or pay for it haha.
I need to see you drive your route that you did with the rx8 in the intro vid with it. But with this new set up
Coming soon!
Those are some impressive numbers to be sure. I'd like to see if it runs any faster at Lime Rock now.
It absolutely will. We will have back to back testing from this season and next years
Great result bravo!! What did you use for fuel? ethanol or gasoline, +octane if it's gasoline?
I'm happy! 93 pump gas
If you can put a price and a time frame on it what would you estimate at?
You go to Ralphie too for the dyno!? He's the best! That's some serious grunt for an AP1 N/A wow
This was the first time there but it was good!
Wow thats some nice gains on the new setup! What are your thoughts on the ballade adjustable timing gear and fluidampr? Looking to add those mods to my car next
I love them both
I hope you do a Webinar on the J's Header
That's actually not a bad idea!
I’m glad you done these videos I been on the fence on the Ballade header. One question though on your video the header seems to be one piece but on their website looks like a two piece design and worried about leaks. Is yours a two piece?
It's a one piece design. Nothing wrong with 2 piece headers though either. I run one on my NB Miata. As long as the slip fittings are designed well there is no issue.
Are you ever gonna get to building that beauty of a Z4M Coupe? I’d be EXTREMELY interested in seeing what kind of NA power you can extract from the beautiful S54 in there, with the same kind of philosophy you applied to your S2K.
Eventually!
S54 is an absolute animal. Don’t be surprised if he gets close to 400whp N/A if he ever goes all in on the build.
Hey man, I just wanted to know how much of a difference the Fluidampr crank pulley made in both power and feel (vibration coming from the engine).
It definitely does something to smooth out the engine harmonics. I wouldn't say it makes more power. It shaves a little weight which helps the fast revy nature too.
How do you like the haltec unit and which one do you have? Looking to get an EMS and deciding which to get…any feedback is greatly appreciated ! Love the videos!
Love it. Platinum Pro PNP
More s2000 content !
YES!
Hope one of you guys can help . Been wanting to put a oil catch can . Just wanted to know if you guys still keep your pcv valve ? Or what setups is highly recommended?
you route the PCV to the catch can so oil vapor is not longer going into your engine.
@@TheSlipAngle cool thank you !
@@TheSlipAngle do you think ballade sports set up is good ? Where they connect it to the oil cap ?
Great video! Definitely excited to begin this process on mine. I was going to skip cams but I think now I'm going to shell out some bucks for the ballade sports ones. Thanks for all the great information tips and being a test mule. 🤣 Are you going to show the race with the genny?
I have a similar gains base map going with my friends 370Z.
For 650.00, they are a worthwhile investment and easy to install too! Yes, we will do a comparison race and show both races in the video, old and new.
@@TheSlipAngle A little update on this. Pulled my cylinder head and found some pretty bad scoring In cylinder two. Oh yay! I have not measured the scores yet but I'm pretty sure the block will need sleeved/ Rebuilt. Thinking of buying an eBay motor for replacement or Inline pro, I'd like to avoid a kswap but looking at prices they almost make sense.
I was really looking forward to this cylinder head build, so I'm pretty bummed!
Dr Honda quinn...can you now get to work on the covid problems....:)
graphs look like a rollercoaster turned into a ski slope......
I lost a little power on my mAz 3 had a new chain at 105k... and it brought things back up..
in depth and informative...
My mom may have questions about the engine....will let you know..... :)
Many thanks
N x
Thank you buddy. As far as the second part, live your life buddy and don't give it attention. That's what I do. I had it, I recovered, and I still live my life like I did before this all.
@@TheSlipAngle 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Buy an Mx5 Nc, and make great videos like this series for us too 😁✌️
Maybe one day!
What oil do you use? I just bought a S2k and I’m doing first oil change
Royal Purple HPS 10w30
Do you have a build sheet? I am in Connecticut as well. Who do you use for tuning?
Not written out, but in our s2000 series we go over all of the mods
Truly amazing results, congrats. Is there a list of all modifications somewhere? I want to pin it on the wall for my future me, because this setup looks to be doable by ordinary people.
I talked about every mod in the beginning
Holy Shit Quinn! Those N/A #'s are fuckin' insane. Awesome...
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With the amount of cyl head development, I’m surprised that you did not modify the intake manifold and throttle body .
It has a 70mm throttle body and port matched intake manifold. I maybe forgot to mention
do you have a list of where you got all your parts? or did you get them all from ballade sports.
From Ballade
@@TheSlipAngle gonna go with a similar setup on my AP1 that’s insane you made that much with the typical bolt ons and cams.
btw the links for ballade in description is incorrect.
fixed
Is there any room in the head to do some porting and polishing?
Stock head already flows really well. There is casting flash that can be cleaned up and people make gains porting but I think it would be more important for a bigger displacement, high compression with big cams build.
@@TheSlipAngle thanks for the reply.
finally caught up lol
Don't miss the street video :P
In II to win it
Research, pull trigger, enjoy pudding. Well done professor Quinn.
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A good n/a its nothing without a good gearbox. Any gears or final drive changed?
I think the stock S2000 gearbox is one of the best there is. No changes to FD, other than shorter diameter tire. Highway cruise is borderline too short as is.
Shorter diff ratio makes a huge difference. I added 4.62.
Any updates? Is the car still running with all those Ballade parts being used? 😁
We just released the track impression video with all the new engine and suspension parts by Ballade. It's the most recent release
now lets see driving footage.
This car is definitely a forever car in my heart. Dream car for sure (L)
Agreed!
team badassery sent me
Would love to see a pull against the Z4M 🙏👍😎
We can do that but at 298 whp on the bone stock engine, the Z4 will for sure walk the S2000 lol
@@TheSlipAngle A Touge Run would be sweet then 😎👌💪
I wish someone would put a K/F series in a Superlite or Ultima, how fun would that be? (well actually I did it on Assetto Corsa and its lots)
like an Ariel atom maybe?
what is motor tuning?
What octane are you running ?
93
With the new found power, You have to rerelease a new video, Matchew’s Jenny vs. the Miata, but for men!
YES! lol
Man, this sucks! I don't have money to replicate your build 😅.
Seriously, great build 👏🏾 👌🏾 and awesome guidance.
Are you or have you considered changing final drive ratio?
I've considered it, but the AP1 6th is already short and I don't want to sacrifice highway cruise. An AP2 transmission would be a better upgrade for the shorter 1-4 and longer 6th but they are pricey now.
@@TheSlipAngle Right, I've been kickin around the idea for a long while. Have you talked to ballade about that ap1 to ap2 gearset swap thing they are/were(?) doing?
Would getting the Spoon gasket be worth it without a tune for now? I plan to get a tune In the future
Should get the Ballade Timing correction gear also. Tune always
I got the same setup except the shave head! Can’t wait to get my car back next week :’)
@@TheSlipAngle made 222WHP!
@@rightfight100 awesome brother!
@@TheSlipAngle thanks for all your help! I pick up the car tomorrow. 🥹
its sick, but its still pennies.
Do you think ballade sports is becoming more trust worthy regarding their parts? I haven’t heard a lot of good things about them in the past.
My experience with them has been positive
😍😍💪🏽💪🏽
What’s your compression ratio ?
~11.8:1
Enjoyed this immensely. Be like the JDM trendy kids and do Toda ITB's next or if you want to embrace your inner Boomer, put your Air Monarchs, jorts and fanny pack on.....Kinslers.
lol
No more Ryan? I def missed something lol
He's focusing on his channel. We wish him well!
Woulda made more power if that motor mount wasn't still broken.🙃
I'm messing around btw. That s2k is is reaaaaaally nice. Congrats.👌
LOL those Miata owners just don't understand :P
14hp 😬
I think the video sucks. Lol nah... the info and all the technical overlook was very very informative. Boost is fun and all but NA is such a different beast without the 400hp (I own a boosted k series and NA S2k)
😜😂
1-4/2-3 is superior for mid power. But tubing is size trash.
All motor wait huh =/ I see A engine but no motor. lol
lol
So All Talking No Driving :(
Series is not over brother