Biggest death that caused ramifications in Season 1 was Translucent's death. It brought the two groups into direct conflict. It was no longer a shadow conflict.
Yea but even as someone who has never read the comics, virtually EVERYONE knows about the comic book reveal...Thanks internet 🤦♀️... I personally hope they change it.
IMy suspicions grew during that scene, the way Homelander was acting, and by the end I knew the show was going with the original comic series Homelander twist. I'd put my house on it.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 some people are saying that that might not have been homelander in that last scene when he kills Doppelganger. I kinda feel like it may have been you know who...if they are following the comics. Notice how he looks around the cabin like he's never been in there before and how disgusted he is at everything and how he called "himself" pathetic... it's been brought up by several people that maybe that's how they're introducing that part of the comic. Lol hard to type without spoilers
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I know taking Homelanders kid would have been a huge risk and Butcher isn't emotionally invested in him, but surely when Butcher realised he has Homelanders powers he would have wanted to 'raise' him and manipulate him to be The Boys weapon.
I have to say - I am really glad that they wrapped up the revenge/saving of Becca thing with Butcher. It is a good plot but it can only go so far. He is now able to focus on THE BOYS and not being as 1 dimensional. His motivations are more dynamic now and can flow with the narrative rather than railroading it. Im so happy that it is not the full season arc. He can still help Becca but it is because of the outcome of toppling Vought not because he is a man out for revenge or whatever. Just some thoughts. Cheers y'all. ...also - Homelander can control the power of his eye laserz. He's able to use it to gently heat milk. Just havent heard anyone mention that. It's probably a throw-away thing but i found it hilarious.
You guys forget. A Train is the key to Homelander’s fall. He killed Hughie’s girlfriend while running V around the world to create Super-Terrorists (Criminals)!
You should review tenacious d and the pick of destiny. Just for fun. I never see anyone talk about it. It's one of those movies that flopped but has a huge fan base
All this Almond Joviality is simply a smokescreen... the creepy deep Fresca shit is what we need to get into... WT actual F is that Fresca shiz all about anyway?
@@ethanwilkins5001 haven't read them myself but I know about the black noire reveal in them. Doesn't look like they're gonna go that way seeing as he got burnt up by the terrorist
@@edwright6994 Remember, he got damaged by Kimiko is season one. It seems that he can take a certain amount of damage from extreme attacks, but is capable of withstanding them - he killed Kimiko despite her tagging him - and has very good, fast regenerative capacity.
When MM talked about passing on a disease, was he not talking about ocd? I get that in the context of the show its an allusion to this particular obsession with the supes/Vaught, but i think he was literally talking about the ocd Starlight pointed out earlier in the episode.
@Alexander Supertramp sure, but is he aware of that? People to this day think if they buy their son barbies he'll turn out gay, its not inconceivable to me that writers could write a character in that way.
He was definitely going to let doppelganger do it, but then he said that it's not even gay thing, and something just clicked in his his f''ed up brain and killed him instead.
I'm more than a little surprised that so little attention has been paid to the final scene featuring Homelander and Doppleganger, as there can be little doubt from that scene that the TV show has chosen to go with the Homelander twist that was core to the original comic series. If you're read the series, rewatch that scene with that in mind and it will become blindingly apparent. If you haven't yet read the series, then all the better!
@@Olemansummer No, clearly I read that wrong (sadly) and certainly by this point that particular narrative is well and truly dead in the water. p.s. I didn't want to chance any spoilers in my original comment so I was a little cryptic, but at this point there are no such concerns. SO what I meant was that as readers of the comics will know, Black Noir was a clone of Homelander that Vought kept in reserve as the ultimate weapon if HL went off the rails. In the comics he committed most of the atrocities attributed to Homelander, and with HL acting so strangely and unlike himself at that point, I was convinced they were running with the Comic narrative, and that that was really Noir. I must admit that I'm a little disappointed that in the end BN played such an insignificant part in the TV show, as the enigmatic figure had so much potential. But by this point the show has taken on it's own momentum and I'm still very much enjoying the ride:)
That could be true, but I personally think many of them will die. That being said (and spoiler alert here) in the comics all of The Boys die except Hughie. They have made the show different from the comics in certain ways, so I could be wrong.
I doubt it will follow the comics and have them all die but Petit Hughie, but Butcher looks odds on to do a Sean Bean, and I fancy L'Homme Francais to go out in some desperately heroic/tragic (and possibly redeeming) manner. He's not gonna settle down in the suburbs with Kimiko and 2.4 kids that's for sure...
Idk starlight is giving me major death vibes, especially with her little “escape” last episode. I have literally no justification for this other than I feel like the writers are signaling things plus i don’t know how she survives this season especially now that Homelander is off the leash
I disagree, respectfully. If any of the current 7 are dying this season it's Queen Maeve or A-Train (or his replacement). Starlight, if they follow the comics, is an integral part of the full story.
Agreed. That little romantic getaway with hughie was just too much happiness and the way homelander has already been sceptical of her... I could definitely see them changing the comics again with homelander killing her
Hey, what if some of the scenes of Stillwell from last season were actually Doppelganger??? Lol I know I'm probably wrong but after seeing this episode it made me wonder what if!!
I think her and Edgar planned on taking Homelander out of the lime light but I do think the Coupe the FBI agent was referring to has to do with putting supes* in charge. I think Stormfront is gonna end up betraying Edgar tbh
She might betray Edgar, but there's no way she could beat him. The tv show Edgar is exactly like the comic version and in the comics even Homelander is very intimidated by Edgar.
I thought she was a clone at first too. I was immediately thinking that maybe her being a clone was a clue that maybe [redacted] could be a clone. Obviously this theory didn't even hold up through the episode. I'm watching this review for a second time lmao
@@doczodzilla Good edit. Its like when I read the Game of Throwns books and had to keep my mouth shut about John Snow the whole season in front of my friends who don't read.
No if anything her light would react with the laser. He's knows thus because remeber back in season 1 when he threatened her with his lasers after finding out about hughie?
No one knows for sure but that would be a cool idea later on to get starlight out of a bind with homelander. We think she’s dead even she thinks she’s about to die but then she powers up and the laser eyes just starts getting absorbed by her making her stronger. I bet homelander would freak out if that happened to him lol..
@@KingOfWinter hell yeah. Maybe that can even be what opens up her flight abilities ( which her and Queen Maeve and maybe even the deep are supposed to be able to fly). I guess they didn't have the budget in the first season for all those flying supes, and the deep is a dumb character to have be able to fly
I always wondered if Starlight might be able to blast Old Laser Eyes before he'd switched his eyes on, and whether her light abilities could offer some degree of protection. I guess it depends if his heat vision is based on laser as that's pure light and presumably able to be manipulated by Starlight.
I don't think he will. I think he'll end up needing her. Homelander has yearned for a Mother figure and Stormfront, at least in the comics, is Homelanders genetic prototype (basically his parent). The person/people who will kill Stormfront will most likely be Kimiko, A-train, Queen Maeve, Starlight or a combination of all of them.
I don't love the whole "Stormfront trashing Vought" storyline. It makes no sense. Her fans would think she was fake as hell. It would be like Chris Hemsworth coming out, saying "Disney just wants to sell you crap toys, by the way, come and see Disney's Marvel's Thor: Love and Thunder this November" or whatever. I'm sure it will all turn out to be Fring's plan anyways but it seems like a stupid plot point that wasn't necessary.
I see what you're saying, but I don't really agree. I could see tons of younger people loving Stormfront because of her fake honesty (and I think people would buy it). Also, unlike real life Stormfront has a crazy amount of power. Even if Vought was pissed at her vocalizing her issues with the company they wouldn't have many options to shut her up except marketing her brutal honesty in their favor, or setting Homelander on her (which he wouldn't do at this moment because he hates Vought right now too).
It doesn't make sense to me; Vought -well, Mr Edgar personally, it seems, placed her in the Seven. She already had a Social Media presence before she joined the Seven so Vought knew exactly what they were getting. Vought pays for her huge rise in status from someone even the Seven's staff haven't heard of into the elite supergroup, and she instantly starts trashing the company and getting her fans to boycott their goods? WT actual F is that all about? Edgar is far too fly to get mugged off like that.
It's all just a bit of a mess and I don't see what it brings to the story, personally. Other than one of the writers wanting to make some kind of commentary about the power of social media. Which is a boring reason to write a plot point.
Look at it more like the politician who yells about how evil and do nothing the system is (and gets people to vote for him because of it) while still very much being part of the system he's raging against.
If they follow the comics (and spoiler alert here) The Boys all take small amounts of Compound V so they can have a fighting chance against The Seven (especially Homelander, Queen Maeve and Black Noir). They only take a small amount though so it gives them all increased strength and durability. Kimiko is the only one who had the full amount of compound v as a child though which is why she as actual super strength, durability, speed and a wolverine level healing ability.
@@frankietsunami9566 Kimiko, especially because of her healing ability, could kill most of the seven one on one (except for Homelander). If The Boys take compound v like the comics then they all would have a fighting chance against Homelander, and an even better chance against all of the 7.
Ethan Wilkins that’s so cool. I haven’t read the comics but I’ll have to give them a go. Also does Huey have powers at the moment. Because I felt like in season 1 there were scenes where it seemed like he might but I don’t know.
@@georgbergsten6050 to be fair you would be speculating how things will play out in the show because obviously there will be many changes. A-Train is definitely a much better character, the deep has more involvement, stormfront is a woman who's actually in the seven rather than her own group. Even with comic knowledge you can only speculate how things might play out
@@ZyroShadowPony Yup. They've definitely deviated from the comics. Only keeping a few basic foundations. I still feel they'd discuss better and give better context if they knew more about the source material
Vincent they HAD to deviate from the comics. Some of that stuff would not fly on tv, even today. Still, I think one of them should read the comic just to know what happens, because I’m pretty sure the show, while similar, is going in a completely different direction (which I am loving)
I want to hear Teddy again
Duhhh, that man is usually always busy with life :(
Teddy looks even better than he sounds.
Bring back Teddy.
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Let me tell you wish I could just discover it today. Just to rewatch everything for the first time.
Biggest death that caused ramifications in Season 1 was Translucent's death. It brought the two groups into direct conflict. It was no longer a shadow conflict.
This is exactly what I needed right now. Thank you!
I think that Liberty is going to hand Homelander's ass to him. In the previews she had him laser her tits and it looked like she survives it.
Homelander killing the doppelganger version of himself felt like foreshadowing. What if the only way homelander can be killed is by himself?
As someone who read the comics several times your comment (and the analysis) is spot on.
Yea but even as someone who has never read the comics, virtually EVERYONE knows about the comic book reveal...Thanks internet 🤦♀️... I personally hope they change it.
IMy suspicions grew during that scene, the way Homelander was acting, and by the end I knew the show was going with the original comic series Homelander twist. I'd put my house on it.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 some people are saying that that might not have been homelander in that last scene when he kills Doppelganger. I kinda feel like it may have been you know who...if they are following the comics. Notice how he looks around the cabin like he's never been in there before and how disgusted he is at everything and how he called "himself" pathetic... it's been brought up by several people that maybe that's how they're introducing that part of the comic. Lol hard to type without spoilers
@@erinc.1610 Exactly! Sssshhhhh! ;)
Bring Teddy back! I loved the perspective he brought in. Great review guys. Love this channel.
In that conversation Homelander had with A-Train, he was saying A-Train wasn't cracking the top 20 of overall supes not speedsters.
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How do you know that? What would it even mean to crack the top 20 "overall"? This isn't DBZ, they don't have power levels.
Quintus Don't ask me, Homelander said it.
@@KlvnBrks Nahh, He clearly meant Speedsters
In an earlier episode, There was a newspapper that said Shockwave had broken a new speed record
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I know taking Homelanders kid would have been a huge risk and Butcher isn't emotionally invested in him, but surely when Butcher realised he has Homelanders powers he would have wanted to 'raise' him and manipulate him to be The Boys weapon.
I have to say - I am really glad that they wrapped up the revenge/saving of Becca thing with Butcher. It is a good plot but it can only go so far. He is now able to focus on THE BOYS and not being as 1 dimensional. His motivations are more dynamic now and can flow with the narrative rather than railroading it. Im so happy that it is not the full season arc. He can still help Becca but it is because of the outcome of toppling Vought not because he is a man out for revenge or whatever. Just some thoughts. Cheers y'all.
...also - Homelander can control the power of his eye laserz. He's able to use it to gently heat milk. Just havent heard anyone mention that. It's probably a throw-away thing but i found it hilarious.
so basically everyother superhero show...
They mentioned this in their episode 1-3 review
@@blazenfate The revenge thing was what was making it different and interesting you think? I feel like there's more to it than that
I love Teddy but we need more Marissa. Tell her to go to part-time at work?
You called that RUN.DMC shirt! lol
You guys forget. A Train is the key to Homelander’s fall. He killed Hughie’s girlfriend while running V around the world to create Super-Terrorists (Criminals)!
You should review tenacious d and the pick of destiny. Just for fun. I never see anyone talk about it. It's one of those movies that flopped but has a huge fan base
My stepdad is an almond joy guy. I'm a crunch guy, I just don't like coconut
I stand with you @KittenPyroNao. Down with coconut.
I’ll eat the almond joys for both of you then :)
All this Almond Joviality is simply a smokescreen... the creepy deep Fresca shit is what we need to get into... WT actual F is that Fresca shiz all about anyway?
I really hope they do something cool with black noire
Have you read the comics?
@@ethanwilkins5001 haven't read them myself but I know about the black noire reveal in them. Doesn't look like they're gonna go that way seeing as he got burnt up by the terrorist
They already have ;)
@@edwright6994 Remember, he got damaged by Kimiko is season one. It seems that he can take a certain amount of damage from extreme attacks, but is capable of withstanding them - he killed Kimiko despite her tagging him - and has very good, fast regenerative capacity.
When MM talked about passing on a disease, was he not talking about ocd? I get that in the context of the show its an allusion to this particular obsession with the supes/Vaught, but i think he was literally talking about the ocd Starlight pointed out earlier in the episode.
He talks about inheriting it from his dad and there’s no mention on mm’s dad having ocd so it’s probably obsession with taking down supes
@@mtr2457 not specifically, but the story about Baskin Robbins could definitely be read that way...at least thats how I read it.
@Alexander Supertramp sure, but is he aware of that? People to this day think if they buy their son barbies he'll turn out gay, its not inconceivable to me that writers could write a character in that way.
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I wonder if Stormfront is Frederick Vought's daughter and she is trying to form a Übermensch/Nazi army [never read the graphic novels]
He was definitely going to let doppelganger do it, but then he said that it's not even gay thing, and something just clicked in his his f''ed up brain and killed him instead.
3:09 is gold aaron
What if storefront is homelanders Mom therefore making home lender even more disturbing with the milk
I'm more than a little surprised that so little attention has been paid to the final scene featuring Homelander and Doppleganger, as there can be little doubt from that scene that the TV show has chosen to go with the Homelander twist that was core to the original comic series. If you're read the series, rewatch that scene with that in mind and it will become blindingly apparent. If you haven't yet read the series, then all the better!
Do you still feel the same way after Season 3? Could still happen but not likely to me
@@Olemansummer No, clearly I read that wrong (sadly) and certainly by this point that particular narrative is well and truly dead in the water.
p.s. I didn't want to chance any spoilers in my original comment so I was a little cryptic, but at this point there are no such concerns. SO what I meant was that as readers of the comics will know, Black Noir was a clone of Homelander that Vought kept in reserve as the ultimate weapon if HL went off the rails. In the comics he committed most of the atrocities attributed to Homelander, and with HL acting so strangely and unlike himself at that point, I was convinced they were running with the Comic narrative, and that that was really Noir.
I must admit that I'm a little disappointed that in the end BN played such an insignificant part in the TV show, as the enigmatic figure had so much potential. But by this point the show has taken on it's own momentum and I'm still very much enjoying the ride:)
None of the boys will die. This isn’t walking dead or game of thrones. The only one of them that likely will die by the end of the series is Butcher
That could be true, but I personally think many of them will die. That being said (and spoiler alert here) in the comics all of The Boys die except Hughie. They have made the show different from the comics in certain ways, so I could be wrong.
I doubt it will follow the comics and have them all die but Petit Hughie, but Butcher looks odds on to do a Sean Bean, and I fancy L'Homme Francais to go out in some desperately heroic/tragic (and possibly redeeming) manner. He's not gonna settle down in the suburbs with Kimiko and 2.4 kids that's for sure...
Im sure the kid is chipped too so there is no where to go
Idk starlight is giving me major death vibes, especially with her little “escape” last episode. I have literally no justification for this other than I feel like the writers are signaling things plus i don’t know how she survives this season especially now that Homelander is off the leash
Andy Diaz I could see that.
I disagree, respectfully. If any of the current 7 are dying this season it's Queen Maeve or A-Train (or his replacement). Starlight, if they follow the comics, is an integral part of the full story.
Agreed. That little romantic getaway with hughie was just too much happiness and the way homelander has already been sceptical of her... I could definitely see them changing the comics again with homelander killing her
Hey, what if some of the scenes of Stillwell from last season were actually Doppelganger??? Lol I know I'm probably wrong but after seeing this episode it made me wonder what if!!
No reason they would have been, He could be anyone, and the only reason he is Stilwell now is because Homelander needs her and she's not there.
I think her and Edgar planned on taking Homelander out of the lime light but I do think the Coupe the FBI agent was referring to has to do with putting supes* in charge. I think Stormfront is gonna end up betraying Edgar tbh
She might betray Edgar, but there's no way she could beat him. The tv show Edgar is exactly like the comic version and in the comics even Homelander is very intimidated by Edgar.
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Awww bring Teddy back! Lol
Not gonna lie, if doppelganger turned into Missandei then I'm hitting it, no questions asked.
Def more Teddy
Teddy can stay, I like hearing his inputs
Teddy _must_ stay!
You guys should watch banshee, teddy would love it
I thought she was a clone at first too. I was immediately thinking that maybe her being a clone was a clue that maybe [redacted] could be a clone. Obviously this theory didn't even hold up through the episode. I'm watching this review for a second time lmao
Don't spoil it for those who have not read the comics yet.
@@jimflagg4009 I edited it 😌
@@doczodzilla Good edit. Its like when I read the Game of Throwns books and had to keep my mouth shut about John Snow the whole season in front of my friends who don't read.
That John Cena joke has me laugh three times
Do y'all think Starlight can absorb Homelanders heat vision?
No if anything her light would react with the laser. He's knows thus because remeber back in season 1 when he threatened her with his lasers after finding out about hughie?
@@breakops5339 yeah I remember the threat but what do you mean by react with his laser?
No one knows for sure but that would be a cool idea later on to get starlight out of a bind with homelander. We think she’s dead even she thinks she’s about to die but then she powers up and the laser eyes just starts getting absorbed by her making her stronger. I bet homelander would freak out if that happened to him lol..
@@KingOfWinter hell yeah. Maybe that can even be what opens up her flight abilities ( which her and Queen Maeve and maybe even the deep are supposed to be able to fly). I guess they didn't have the budget in the first season for all those flying supes, and the deep is a dumb character to have be able to fly
I always wondered if Starlight might be able to blast Old Laser Eyes before he'd switched his eyes on, and whether her light abilities could offer some degree of protection. I guess it depends if his heat vision is based on laser as that's pure light and presumably able to be manipulated by Starlight.
Teddy should stay
At this point I like Homelander way more than Stormfront. I hope he puts her in her place
I don't think he will. I think he'll end up needing her. Homelander has yearned for a Mother figure and Stormfront, at least in the comics, is Homelanders genetic prototype (basically his parent).
The person/people who will kill Stormfront will most likely be Kimiko, A-train, Queen Maeve, Starlight or a combination of all of them.
He put something in her place alright
I don't love the whole "Stormfront trashing Vought" storyline. It makes no sense. Her fans would think she was fake as hell. It would be like Chris Hemsworth coming out, saying "Disney just wants to sell you crap toys, by the way, come and see Disney's Marvel's Thor: Love and Thunder this November" or whatever. I'm sure it will all turn out to be Fring's plan anyways but it seems like a stupid plot point that wasn't necessary.
I see what you're saying, but I don't really agree. I could see tons of younger people loving Stormfront because of her fake honesty (and I think people would buy it).
Also, unlike real life Stormfront has a crazy amount of power. Even if Vought was pissed at her vocalizing her issues with the company they wouldn't have many options to shut her up except marketing her brutal honesty in their favor, or setting Homelander on her (which he wouldn't do at this moment because he hates Vought right now too).
It doesn't make sense to me; Vought -well, Mr Edgar personally, it seems, placed her in the Seven. She already had a Social Media presence before she joined the Seven so Vought knew exactly what they were getting. Vought pays for her huge rise in status from someone even the Seven's staff haven't heard of into the elite supergroup, and she instantly starts trashing the company and getting her fans to boycott their goods? WT actual F is that all about? Edgar is far too fly to get mugged off like that.
It's all just a bit of a mess and I don't see what it brings to the story, personally. Other than one of the writers wanting to make some kind of commentary about the power of social media. Which is a boring reason to write a plot point.
Look at it more like the politician who yells about how evil and do nothing the system is (and gets people to vote for him because of it) while still very much being part of the system he's raging against.
A thing to remember is how hard it was to kill translucent. If the boys are going to take down homelander they most def will need sup help
I feel like Kimiko might ripe his head off. And maybe Starlight will help with blasting off his head and then Kimiko attacks from behind
If they follow the comics (and spoiler alert here) The Boys all take small amounts of Compound V so they can have a fighting chance against The Seven (especially Homelander, Queen Maeve and Black Noir). They only take a small amount though so it gives them all increased strength and durability. Kimiko is the only one who had the full amount of compound v as a child though which is why she as actual super strength, durability, speed and a wolverine level healing ability.
@@frankietsunami9566 Kimiko, especially because of her healing ability, could kill most of the seven one on one (except for Homelander). If The Boys take compound v like the comics then they all would have a fighting chance against Homelander, and an even better chance against all of the 7.
Ethan Wilkins that’s so cool. I haven’t read the comics but I’ll have to give them a go. Also does Huey have powers at the moment. Because I felt like in season 1 there were scenes where it seemed like he might but I don’t know.
@@ethanwilkins5001 They've already taken the compound. Butcher jabbed Hughie with it out of the blue before explaining what it was.
No Teddy!
Did Nash die or something?
My prediction is that Stormfront will be Homelanders mother.
Stormfront be taking over!
we want teddy and marisa
Y’all better bring teddy back
Get Teddy in the next one!
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I like almond joy. Never even heard of Charleston Chew. Bit-O-Honey is vile.
Coconut is gross.
Omg Charleston chews are delicious if you like chocolate covered marshmallow
READ THE COMIC BOOK! lol.. It'll help you guys be as good as you were with game of thrones
It would also spoil a lot. I honestly prefer the speculation
@@georgbergsten6050 to be fair you would be speculating how things will play out in the show because obviously there will be many changes. A-Train is definitely a much better character, the deep has more involvement, stormfront is a woman who's actually in the seven rather than her own group.
Even with comic knowledge you can only speculate how things might play out
@@ZyroShadowPony Yup. They've definitely deviated from the comics. Only keeping a few basic foundations. I still feel they'd discuss better and give better context if they knew more about the source material
Vincent they HAD to deviate from the comics. Some of that stuff would not fly on tv, even today. Still, I think one of them should read the comic just to know what happens, because I’m pretty sure the show, while similar, is going in a completely different direction (which I am loving)
They've departed from the comic so much I don't know if it would help or hurt the analysis of the show.
It is worth a read though!
Almond Joys rule!
Bring teddy back
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Mmm, that's good soup
Bring Ted back
Teddy’s ok, but not as good as marissa.
You guys uploaded right with the PS5 price reveal... terrible timing.
Let Ted Host #LetTedHost
Am I the only one that finds Hughie really annoying?
No, there are at least two of us! The guy is driving me up the wall!
None of the characters are very likeable imo
:)
Bring teddy back