I can relate. Over the years, have learned that it's the small details that get you as a DIY'er. Especially on some platforms/engines. Rotaries are also like that.
Lol I work for Subaru so I totally know. So it was head gaskets right? Cuz you never really specified, just kinda talked about it but I assume it leaned out and expanded the heads and detonated due to spark knock and blew them out. As soon as I saw the smoke I knew head gaskets but the fact the compression test was good I questioned it, although head gaskets can still show a good compression test. A leak down test could have helped but still can show good. But then you showed the kinked line and not sure what it was for, you explained the cylinder pressure but it looked like a oil line or fuel line. So I was kinda confused as to what the actual issue was, was was it multiple issues and if it was what were the actual issues.
I have owned a 02' WRX since new. I have driven it like I stole it everyday of its life. Warped the front brake rotors at 20K miles and put on a big brake kit. Transmission carnage at 68K miles under stock hp. Subaru rebuilt trans for $1800. 60K miles spit the gears out the side of the r160 rear diff. 80K miles carrier bearings in center diff need replacing. Did a 6-speed STi swap. Car was fine until at 178K miles I decided to install a Accessport and turbo back exhaust probably should have updated fuel pump but didn't. Raced a Mercedes on the freeway and was winning until car stopped making power. Looked in rear view mirror and saw white smoke coming from rear. Got off freeway, stopped at red light and car was knocking like a diesel. That was December 2012 and car was parked in garage. Bought a house, got married, got divorced and in 2019 I finally bought a JDM replacement engine just to get it running then built engine later. Pulled motor out but haven't put replacement in yet cause I bought a Forester and now modifying that. Yes I have a addiction.
Good for you man Better then a meth addiction I can attest I own a o6 sti tho Fresh 2018 Type-Ra sti short block and am just now finishing up the break in. I’ll wish you luck bud Wish me luck too
I was a person who has built his 02 wrx imma be 100% real do what I did and send the block out to make sure everything is aligned and in spec and don't be hesitant to buy parts that are overbuilt for your horsepower goals I have parts rated for 700-800hp on a wrx that only makes 320 to the wheels. would I suggest building your boxer motor no...god no especially if you live in a small town because the places you need to go to get your block done are probably not there and shipping is expensive thankfully I had a local Subaru shop to ask questions about my build. Like it was stated in the video these aren't LS or K series that we've all hear hero stories about making 1'000hp so don't feel bad that you didn't build your motor at home because it's built not bought to build the right Subaru for your needs doesn't just take one person it takes a community because its what makes a Subaru a Subaru thank you for coming to my Ted talk PS: love your videos
Everyone says they blow their shit up. Mine runs great, beat the snot out of it and it wants more. Some subarus will always die, some will get beaten into a pulp for years and never bat an eye. Tuning and Modifications are everything. Watch who tunes it, and what "real" parts you put on these cars. 400wh is MAX for any subaru in my opinion.
Subaru spark plugs are genuinely easy and if you use double platinum or iridium plugs like you are supposed to you only need to change them every 60K+ miles. But really they can be done in under 30 minutes and there are only 4 unlike packed V8s or transverse V6s which are much more painful haha.
maybe I got lucky, but when I split my 240k mile EJ255 block and threw new bearings at it, the plastigauge claimed the clearances were fine....still running good 2 years and many redline pulls later
@@tristanludvig2396 yeah, for stock or near stock rebuilds the clearances are not nearly as critical. Get them all within the specs of the factory service manual and you're good to go
@@tristanludvig2396 I assume they're talking about high horse power, if your going for 300-400ish I doubt that you building it yourself is gonna be a problem, but beyond that it makes sense that its going to take an expert to put an engine together so that it lasts for more than 30k...
This really pisses me off. Those OTL guys consistently pass along sheep info. I guarantee Grayson has never built an EJ by himself and had machine work done by any decent local machine shop. I have torque plates and have built multiple Subaru engines with absolutely no issues. Check your main tolerances and you'll be totally fine. And I'm nowhere near the only one. They think they're making people want to give them business since only the "pros" can build EJ's and charge you an absurd amount to do so. It only hurts the community and makes Subaru's look bad. Timing is simple on a Subaru. They should be embarrassed by this video.
Totally Agree , have been around horizontally opposed engines now for over 30 years with a aviation background building a fair few lycomings and continentals I would say Subaru EJ series engines are just another engine , no big deal. If you want power plan the build with good quality internals , double check clearances , balance internals and good supporting mods will get you there, shops are there for those who dought there ability, if you Really want to build it you will🤘
Also worth mentioning that it was alluded to in the first video that these guys barely did maintenance on the car in several years. They were asking for it to be blown up. Routine and preventative maintenance goes a longggg way.
Hey OTL is a great shop. To bad that smaller businesses don't get the spotlight. Especially when you're in a place like Des Moines. I guess it comes down to the content and a shiny beautiful shop like OTL is easy to make content on. Theres a few really good underdogs in our state btw. Wish there wasn't so much of a divide.
@@RadDadisRad yeah i've seen their socials and it seems that their focus is on the subaru brand and other japanese cars, but they do sometimes make time for other projects, just less often it seems.
Have only owned Honda’s was going to get a accord 2.0t 6 speed. But impossible to find and not being made anymore in manual so not getting a Honda anymore. So I said screw it going to look into a wrx or sti also liked those for a while too test drove it and instantly loved it couldn’t obviously take it home had to wait two weeks drove my 2012 si and the rev hang is so bad .🥲😢 the sti was waiting for me to shift the car have owned it for 5 months and 6k miles no issues. Change the oil every 2500 miles let the car warm up and I don’t beat on it since I am used to slower cars it’s been reliable for me. Main reason they blow up people either mod them with no tune or use a Cobb accessport with base maps and not running the correct parts. You pay to play also higher hp makes cars unreliable too. I own a 2018 sti now with 21k miles and a 2005 civic hx 5 speed 143k and is saving me right now with gas get 44 mpg 👊🏽
I put a V7 EJ207 in my WRX. 20g turbo on E85 at 400whp, with an STi 6 speed and I've been dailying it for the past 60k miles and it's been great. Been thinking about building the motor for 800+hp but seeing this kind of stuff makes me wonder why I don't just sell it and buy something with an LS.
Man this car is breaking up really bad!!! Me being a car guy I would probably would have STOPPED bashing on it and limped it back to the shop and told them we can film this video later. I don’t feel comfortable doing it because it’s not running right. But not David having a 1.14 million subscriber Car TH-cam channel just keeps bashing on the car even when it’s obviously breaking up BAD!!!! Then proceeds to keep cranking it when there obviously something wrong with it! these two video don’t make you look very good and for the shop it’s not a good video for them either. Mistake were made I get that but with David and the shop owner having experience with car should have known better!! Makes me upset and it’s not even my car.
So basically, just align everything in the engine and build from there, how you’re supposed to do high hop engines. Then again this channel may have many diy guys and such so can’t expect much either. Much to learn.
I bought a 300 hp Subie from someone who owned it since 2004! still runs fine after 200k miles! just to mention i’m 36 and no longer abuse cars like i did in my 20s!
"I don wan a tunin shop where cars break!" DUDE THIS THING HAS AN EJ25 MAKING OVER 800 AT THE *WHEEL!* I'm used to EJs being considered ticking time bombs when pushing anything over 350! The fact they trusted their work strung THAT tightly tells me they know what the hell they're doing.
Also I'm having the exact same problem as in this video with my 04 WRX and I think it's clogged injectors. Checked everything else just like they did. Compression, spark, fuel, plenty of voltage. Would make sense too since they had old E85 in there!
Example: " The high pressure cast aluminum alloy engine block had Metal Matrix Composite (MMC) reinforced cylinder walls. MMC is a reinforcement material composed of ceramic parts and fibers. " My celica ts with 192 hp @7800. 1.8 l 4 cyl na engine (2zz)
Yeah built WRX/STi's just seem like a headache and a moneypit. I have a stock WRX and my ultimate goal is to get it just above STi power, preferable around 325-350 hp. 400 is where the stock motors seem to start grenading, and anything above that isn't an IF its gonna blow, its a WHEN its gonna blow...
@@Veshon oh, making a subaru go fast isnt an issue. I have a buddy whos making 400 wheel on the stock block and turbo, just a tune and some bolt ons and corn. Making a subaru fast AND reliable, now thats where it gets hard. But thats nothing new of course, Subarus have had their typical subaru issues for as long as theyve existed. Its what makes a subaru a subaru after all lmao
Funny how this car is getting a head gasket job among other things I was doing a gasket job on mine and my head studs snap, but my car has 176k on it. 😅
yeah so i just spun a bearing in my WRX. definitely just gotta get a new short block. no point in re-honing the old block again. its basically the same cost unless you have a good relationship with, as you mentioned, one of the like, 4 shops in the country that could do it RIGHT. you CAN do the rest of the work at home though if you know the platform. but yeah, Subaru motors are expensive to fix. oh well.
It was the right exemple about people saying "hey subaru haha again..." BUT finally they found a kink hose and a bad fuel situation 🤦 loll how you can think it will goes well. I mean for EVERY car !!! The brand was always pointed out in general but most of the time people doesn't know the real stories about these situations. When you really start trying to check the real story about it, generaly it broke because of an essential reason that is even bad for every car. Yes there is some specific things on Subaru that you have to care about more than other brand, but most of the time there is a reason about failure. There are many many nice builds about like 600whp that least for many years and it was especially good for (we have to admit) a streched power on a 4 cylinders. But that, for the haters, they don't focus on that, sure, they just focus on bad things that I will say can happen on many modified cars other than Subaru. Compare apple with apple. This is a 4 cylinders aluminium block, don't forget that.
Forgive my ignorance but is there a reason you continued to let the motor run after blowing up? Wouldn’t it of been better to cut the ignition vs letting it idle to death?
Wasn't David's fault, would have happened to anyone irregardless of the driver, I assume the shop will pay for it since it wasn't on the owner's watch, and because it was the shop's idea, but frankly the shop will probably make their money back from the publicity of David's videos anyways so in the end everyone walks away happy.
So I noticed he said that the block has to be machined when you take the crank casing apart. Why is that? and is that for all Subaru engines or just EJs?
Was probably tuned with injector times to correct the crushed fuel hose and flogged pump. Now you have fixed those things it has way to much fuel for start up.
Tbh I don't understand the obsession with high hp... I would rather have my dads stock motor 03(blobeye) STI (2.0L) rally car, that has even less hp than stock thanks to the 34mm(or was it 36mm lol) turbo restrictor. He has had it for a year and a half and the only thing he has had to fix was a fuel pump and some maintenance stuff (oils, fluids etc). That thing has been reliable as ever.
Subarus are finicky, touchy and complex beasts. But if you know what you're getting into, build them right, be aware of these details, man.... they're a JOY to run. And they will RUN. Can confirm, 500whp 2018 Varis WRX STI owner here. Going strong. Edit: The engine was built by IAG and the internals were worked by a authorized shop, I ain't doing anything at home with that rofl.
So splitting the block isn't a great DIY idea. But what about swapping in a stage 2 block from IAG and getting the OEM heads re-machined? Are the tolerances on that as tricky if the short block is left untouched from IAG?
Damn my block was literally built on a kitchen table......now i’m scared but it’s been running fine aside from needing another set of spark plugs to throw at it to get the misfire codes dealt with. The block should be fine it’s built with a laundry list of supporting parts
Wonder why a built Subaru is so involved to time? Stock Subaru engines are super easy to time maybe ots because the case split? I'm interested to know as I do timing on Subaru and heads from time to time but they are stock cars
These motors aren't meant for this kinda power period. Sure, a 1.6 na motor could be upgraded to make 1000hp but will it last long enough to matter? No.
Thats guy is so irritating to watch. He's got alot of content, but Ive never been able to get thru one of his videos. After awhile it's like just stop talking for 2 minutes and show the car.
Have a goddamn EJ20 that will crank but won't fire. The so-called Subie pro says he can't figure it out. Similar to what this doing. Any suggestions on what's a common issue that causes this or that could POSSIBLY fix this???🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ThatDudeinBlue Hey David im still gonna build my subaru at home ;) however not for 1200hp and yes it will be a daily still, will my block be line honed and bored yes from a ma and pop shop? yes. Do they have the tooling and machines for it? yes they do. David sir i do mostly agree with you for the complex things that need to go to a legit shop for but not all things need to go there. Im also building an Evo 9 in my garage right now that will be capable of 900whp, that same mom and pop shop line honed and bored that block. however will it be running that high??? no it will not a modest 550-600 pump should do fine to hurt most peoples feelings. Love what you do Love your channel! i'm just busting some nuts here in the comments :D
I know many builders who habe never line honed a subaru wngine and those cars are still running to this day. Maybe if your going for high hp, but i dont believe thats always the case. Just my opinion
It’s a Subaru that’s what happened. Sorry it was too easy. I love Subaru’s and sold them when the wrx and STi launched in the USA. Sold the first one ever out of our dealership as guy put a deposit down months before we got it.
I can't believe this guy is saying there is more places in Aus who can machine these motors than there is in the US. More than a handful down here building in house engines ranging from the standard drive in drive out 400hp all the way to 1000+ HP cars with and without billet blocks.
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“Hey can fix my car!”
“Sir your pistons go sideways.”
“Like a Porsche right?” 😅
I can relate. Over the years, have learned that it's the small details that get you as a DIY'er. Especially on some platforms/engines. Rotaries are also like that.
Lol I work for Subaru so I totally know. So it was head gaskets right? Cuz you never really specified, just kinda talked about it but I assume it leaned out and expanded the heads and detonated due to spark knock and blew them out. As soon as I saw the smoke I knew head gaskets but the fact the compression test was good I questioned it, although head gaskets can still show a good compression test. A leak down test could have helped but still can show good. But then you showed the kinked line and not sure what it was for, you explained the cylinder pressure but it looked like a oil line or fuel line. So I was kinda confused as to what the actual issue was, was was it multiple issues and if it was what were the actual issues.
@@christiangraham4579 he did explain it lol
@@johnnykwon8173 they did a compression test so it wasn’t seized then.. but who knows
@@johnnykwon8173 not drive by wire, not a compression issue, not a spark issue, not a fuel issue.
I have owned a 02' WRX since new. I have driven it like I stole it everyday of its life. Warped the front brake rotors at 20K miles and put on a big brake kit. Transmission carnage at 68K miles under stock hp. Subaru rebuilt trans for $1800. 60K miles spit the gears out the side of the r160 rear diff. 80K miles carrier bearings in center diff need replacing. Did a 6-speed STi swap. Car was fine until at 178K miles I decided to install a Accessport and turbo back exhaust probably should have updated fuel pump but didn't. Raced a Mercedes on the freeway and was winning until car stopped making power. Looked in rear view mirror and saw white smoke coming from rear. Got off freeway, stopped at red light and car was knocking like a diesel. That was December 2012 and car was parked in garage. Bought a house, got married, got divorced and in 2019 I finally bought a JDM replacement engine just to get it running then built engine later. Pulled motor out but haven't put replacement in yet cause I bought a Forester and now modifying that. Yes I have a addiction.
Good for you man
Better then a meth addiction
I can attest
I own a o6 sti tho
Fresh 2018 Type-Ra sti short block and am just now finishing up the break in.
I’ll wish you luck bud
Wish me luck too
When you going to sell it cuz to alleviate any further stress ?
You must be a masochist
Throw an IAG short block in it and you're good
Keeping a car from new really says it's the one for you. Get that engine in and keep driving it!
Mechanic: It just needs spark, fuel air and compression to run.
Subaru: Yes, but no.
It also needs magic and your first 3 children
Its also possible to flood the engine with money somehow
I was a person who has built his 02 wrx imma be 100% real do what I did and send the block out to make sure everything is aligned and in spec and don't be hesitant to buy parts that are overbuilt for your horsepower goals I have parts rated for 700-800hp on a wrx that only makes 320 to the wheels. would I suggest building your boxer motor no...god no especially if you live in a small town because the places you need to go to get your block done are probably not there and shipping is expensive thankfully I had a local Subaru shop to ask questions about my build. Like it was stated in the video these aren't LS or K series that we've all hear hero stories about making 1'000hp so don't feel bad that you didn't build your motor at home because it's built not bought to build the right Subaru for your needs doesn't just take one person it takes a community because its what makes a Subaru a Subaru
thank you for coming to my Ted talk
PS: love your videos
Don’t worry man. I put a new engine in mine and drive it like a grandma for months, got on it one time and it blew up hard
Lmao I always drive mine like a grandma. At least i don’t have to spend more money on it.
That sucks ass lmao
Big RIP 🥲
That seems to be the general consensus on the subie experience
Everyone says they blow their shit up. Mine runs great, beat the snot out of it and it wants more. Some subarus will always die, some will get beaten into a pulp for years and never bat an eye. Tuning and Modifications are everything. Watch who tunes it, and what "real" parts you put on these cars. 400wh is MAX for any subaru in my opinion.
“And the pistons goes like this👈🏽👉🏽”😂😂
“👉🏼👈🏽”
Thats literally how i explained it to my sister when she bought her Crosstrek
Subaru spark plugs are genuinely easy and if you use double platinum or iridium plugs like you are supposed to you only need to change them every 60K+ miles. But really they can be done in under 30 minutes and there are only 4 unlike packed V8s or transverse V6s which are much more painful haha.
i changed mine on my 71 demon in like 10 mins lol, nothing but easy going 😎
@@THExWASP Well yeah back when engine bays could double as small apartments! 😂
@@802Garage exactly lol
Compared to my gt350 or civic it still looks rough haha
@@RCXDerp Inlines are obviously easiest. Would take a similar amount of time to GT350 honestly.
maybe I got lucky, but when I split my 240k mile EJ255 block and threw new bearings at it, the plastigauge claimed the clearances were fine....still running good 2 years and many redline pulls later
Yah i think this vid is full of shit. If the clearences are good its good. People put together subarus all the time that last.
@@tristanludvig2396 yeah, for stock or near stock rebuilds the clearances are not nearly as critical. Get them all within the specs of the factory service manual and you're good to go
@@tristanludvig2396 would it be possible get some stronger internals that have factory clearance on something like an ez30?
What’s your mods?
@@tristanludvig2396 I assume they're talking about high horse power, if your going for 300-400ish I doubt that you building it yourself is gonna be a problem, but beyond that it makes sense that its going to take an expert to put an engine together so that it lasts for more than 30k...
10/10 on outfront Jeremy knows his stuff over there 🔥
wait a minute... i know you from somewhere... hmmmm. OHH u made that video on subie pencil holders (love your channel man)
EG33 coming soon everyone!
Wow great video young man!! My interests in cars have been renewed ever since I found out about your channel .Thank you for sharing!! - Gary.
This really pisses me off. Those OTL guys consistently pass along sheep info. I guarantee Grayson has never built an EJ by himself and had machine work done by any decent local machine shop. I have torque plates and have built multiple Subaru engines with absolutely no issues. Check your main tolerances and you'll be totally fine. And I'm nowhere near the only one. They think they're making people want to give them business since only the "pros" can build EJ's and charge you an absurd amount to do so. It only hurts the community and makes Subaru's look bad. Timing is simple on a Subaru. They should be embarrassed by this video.
Agreed.
this is the comment I was looking for. this is the most saving face I've ever seen by a shop
Totally Agree , have been around horizontally opposed engines now for over 30 years with a aviation background building a fair few lycomings and continentals I would say Subaru EJ series engines are just another engine , no big deal.
If you want power plan the build with good quality internals , double check clearances , balance internals and good supporting mods will get you there, shops are there for those who dought there ability, if you
Really want to build it you will🤘
Also worth mentioning that it was alluded to in the first video that these guys barely did maintenance on the car in several years. They were asking for it to be blown up. Routine and preventative maintenance goes a longggg way.
Subies and evos look like a pain in the ass to own breh i feel bad for all owners
Can't wait for you to review my buddy's Rav4! I'm jealous they got to meet you last week!
Hey OTL is a great shop. To bad that smaller businesses don't get the spotlight. Especially when you're in a place like Des Moines. I guess it comes down to the content and a shiny beautiful shop like OTL is easy to make content on. Theres a few really good underdogs in our state btw. Wish there wasn't so much of a divide.
“How I blew up an 800hp Subaru STI.”
…….I drove it. You didn’t blow it up, you just happened to be behind the steering wheel when it blew up.
Facts
yeeeeeeeeep
“It’s what makes a Subaru, a Subaru “
living in des moines iowa and never seeing this place is sad. wanna come see these crazy cars so bad. someday. someday.
I live just outside of dsm they won’t do much for cars they don’t care about. They could be an all around builder but they only work on imports.
@@RadDadisRad yeah i've seen their socials and it seems that their focus is on the subaru brand and other japanese cars, but they do sometimes make time for other projects, just less often it seems.
They built me a 660whp WRX back in the day, say what you want but anyone who’s actually been there will agree Off The Line is badass.
@@RadDadisRad who hurt you?
I really want a Subaru but my Honda is just too reliable.
Unequal length headers(4cyls only). Look em up.
The unreliability of Subarus is so over hyped.. They're excellent vehicles. If you can afford a subie, go for it. Gurantee you won't regret it..
@@dannythompson1948 I work with a girl that had a WRX,wrecked it,bought a 2015 subie,costs a lot of money,now she said it’s gonna be her last one.
Have only owned Honda’s was going to get a accord 2.0t 6 speed. But impossible to find and not being made anymore in manual so not getting a Honda anymore. So I said screw it going to look into a wrx or sti also liked those for a while too test drove it and instantly loved it couldn’t obviously take it home had to wait two weeks drove my 2012 si and the rev hang is so bad .🥲😢 the sti was waiting for me to shift the car have owned it for 5 months and 6k miles no issues. Change the oil every 2500 miles let the car warm up and I don’t beat on it since I am used to slower cars it’s been reliable for me. Main reason they blow up people either mod them with no tune or use a Cobb accessport with base maps and not running the correct parts. You pay to play also higher hp makes cars unreliable too. I own a 2018 sti now with 21k miles and a 2005 civic hx 5 speed 143k and is saving me right now with gas get 44 mpg 👊🏽
@@dannythompson1948 I have friends with Subarus that say otherwise lol
The knowledge from this guy is right on off the line performance is probably one of the best if not the best subaru shops out there right now
I put a V7 EJ207 in my WRX. 20g turbo on E85 at 400whp, with an STi 6 speed and I've been dailying it for the past 60k miles and it's been great. Been thinking about building the motor for 800+hp but seeing this kind of stuff makes me wonder why I don't just sell it and buy something with an LS.
Man this car is breaking up really bad!!! Me being a car guy I would probably would have STOPPED bashing on it and limped it back to the shop and told them we can film this video later. I don’t feel comfortable doing it because it’s not running right. But not David having a 1.14 million subscriber Car TH-cam channel just keeps bashing on the car even when it’s obviously breaking up BAD!!!! Then proceeds to keep cranking it when there obviously something wrong with it! these two video don’t make you look very good and for the shop it’s not a good video for them either. Mistake were made I get that but with David and the shop owner having experience with car should have known better!! Makes me upset and it’s not even my car.
Exactly what I was thinking. That breaking up was nasty. That’s exactly how you blow an engine up
So it didnt even blow up. Noice. Lucked out there considering it leaned out under boost multiple times
So basically, just align everything in the engine and build from there, how you’re supposed to do high hop engines. Then again this channel may have many diy guys and such so can’t expect much either. Much to learn.
I bought a 300 hp Subie from someone who owned it since 2004! still runs fine after 200k miles! just to mention i’m 36 and no longer abuse cars like i did in my 20s!
if there was fuel in cyl, wouldn't that skew the psi numbers?
They said they blew the fuel out i think🤔
THAT SHOP IS SWEET!!!
Bader built would argue some of the talking points about Subi's motor
Josh and I are close friends, and we use the same supplier for case halves and engine parts
Man builds race cars in his driveway, Josh Bader is a Legend!
@@Otl_grayson the same one as the guys in this video?
Subarus have tons of issues, there's no arguing that.
@@liamking9255 I’m the guy in the video lol yes
"I don wan a tunin shop where cars break!"
DUDE THIS THING HAS AN EJ25 MAKING OVER 800 AT THE *WHEEL!*
I'm used to EJs being considered ticking time bombs when pushing anything over 350!
The fact they trusted their work strung THAT tightly tells me they know what the hell they're doing.
"And yes I know, your buddy's make 1200hp and drives it every day."🤣🤣
Also I'm having the exact same problem as in this video with my 04 WRX and I think it's clogged injectors. Checked everything else just like they did. Compression, spark, fuel, plenty of voltage. Would make sense too since they had old E85 in there!
Crazy, I see guys building them all the time.....
Example:
" The high pressure cast aluminum alloy engine block had Metal Matrix Composite (MMC) reinforced cylinder walls. MMC is a reinforcement material composed of ceramic parts and fibers. "
My celica ts with 192 hp @7800.
1.8 l 4 cyl na engine (2zz)
At least it’s got a new motor in it already bet it’s fired up and driving by next video!
I own a stock 1999 sti and wouldn't ever bother building a subaru over 400 hp. Unless you have tons of money its just not worth it
If you have a stock 1999 sti id keep it stock
Yeah built WRX/STi's just seem like a headache and a moneypit. I have a stock WRX and my ultimate goal is to get it just above STi power, preferable around 325-350 hp. 400 is where the stock motors seem to start grenading, and anything above that isn't an IF its gonna blow, its a WHEN its gonna blow...
@@mingusog7036 meanwhile a golf r with a downpipe and tune is running 380whp on 93 and 400+ on e30. There's almost no reason to buy a Subaru anymore
@@Veshon oh, making a subaru go fast isnt an issue. I have a buddy whos making 400 wheel on the stock block and turbo, just a tune and some bolt ons and corn. Making a subaru fast AND reliable, now thats where it gets hard. But thats nothing new of course, Subarus have had their typical subaru issues for as long as theyve existed. Its what makes a subaru a subaru after all lmao
@@Veshon golf r engine is an iron block too. Made for high boost
Funny how this car is getting a head gasket job among other things I was doing a gasket job on mine and my head studs snap, but my car has 176k on it. 😅
I was blown away when I tested the compression on my car with a b16 in it and it tested 220 psi across the board
Why are the most awesome of cars the biggest of headaches...
yeah so i just spun a bearing in my WRX. definitely just gotta get a new short block. no point in re-honing the old block again. its basically the same cost unless you have a good relationship with, as you mentioned, one of the like, 4 shops in the country that could do it RIGHT.
you CAN do the rest of the work at home though if you know the platform. but yeah, Subaru motors are expensive to fix. oh well.
Ngl gives me more pride knowing I built it at home even though I had iag handle the bottom end
Thanks for the spark plug change tip
Moral of story. just go get a K series Honda LOL
they have a hako just chillin in the back
I’m still gonna just eBay build a 2.5 block for a hybrid build in a garage. If it blows up I’ll swap in another eBay built block lol
My friend is doing that with a beams in a 76 celica Lmao!
Just go LS
It was the right exemple about people saying "hey subaru haha again..." BUT finally they found a kink hose and a bad fuel situation 🤦 loll how you can think it will goes well. I mean for EVERY car !!! The brand was always pointed out in general but most of the time people doesn't know the real stories about these situations. When you really start trying to check the real story about it, generaly it broke because of an essential reason that is even bad for every car. Yes there is some specific things on Subaru that you have to care about more than other brand, but most of the time there is a reason about failure. There are many many nice builds about like 600whp that least for many years and it was especially good for (we have to admit) a streched power on a 4 cylinders. But that, for the haters, they don't focus on that, sure, they just focus on bad things that I will say can happen on many modified cars other than Subaru. Compare apple with apple. This is a 4 cylinders aluminium block, don't forget that.
I built my Ej and Im still running strong with 450 whp Rotated!
"I blew up some guys Subaru and let me explain how it's all his fault"
Because he's bad at rebuilding an engine
I had a stock Blobeyes for 2 years! i never had any problem until i started to mod it! Japanese cars are reliable within their own engineering spec!!
Forgive my ignorance but is there a reason you continued to let the motor run after blowing up? Wouldn’t it of been better to cut the ignition vs letting it idle to death?
Awesome video!
Curious to know who's paying for the repairs, David, the owner, or the shop?
Probably the shop since they offered to let him drive it
Wasn't David's fault, would have happened to anyone irregardless of the driver, I assume the shop will pay for it since it wasn't on the owner's watch, and because it was the shop's idea, but frankly the shop will probably make their money back from the publicity of David's videos anyways so in the end everyone walks away happy.
So I noticed he said that the block has to be machined when you take the crank casing apart. Why is that? and is that for all Subaru engines or just EJs?
It’s for all of them with absurd amounts of horsepower
And all of them in general
Yep. "After 700 the engine becomes a wear item." Lol
07 sti 78k on the car about 18 k on motor 422hp it loves it .
"LET ME FILM YOU!" -David, 2021
So does this warning regarding DIY rebuilds only apply to USDM EJs? Or EJs from all markets? Or is there no difference? Sorry I don't know.
The engine becomes a wear item!? That’s racing
Was probably tuned with injector times to correct the crushed fuel hose and flogged pump. Now you have fixed those things it has way to much fuel for start up.
Modified cars can be a pain in the butt. No such thing as a warranty on a modified car. You pay to play.
I am a bit surprised they didn't mention or recommend prebuilt engines, or closed deck.
Man, how did I not know about this shop, not that far from me.
Let's get some saqb action
"you can't have a kink in your line like this"
Proceeds to show an AN fitting with less than a 30* bend.
you must not understand how cylinder pressures work bud, that is plenty enough restriction to blow seals
Theres a difference between a Kink and a pre-bent fitting there bud.
This is why I take my wrx to a specialty shop because honestly I don’t want to mess it up. Love my Subaru but damn they are complicated
Tbh I don't understand the obsession with high hp...
I would rather have my dads stock motor 03(blobeye) STI (2.0L) rally car, that has even less hp than stock thanks to the 34mm(or was it 36mm lol) turbo restrictor.
He has had it for a year and a half and the only thing he has had to fix was a fuel pump and some maintenance stuff (oils, fluids etc).
That thing has been reliable as ever.
Drive a high hp car and you’ll understand boy
@@miguemerkinrivera2664 kratos?
He’s screaming the entire time 😫
everybody else politely tolerating it 🙄
If he didn't have his TH-cam channel, they would have kicked him out
Crank sensor maybe? Losing sync?
It's been absolute ages since I have been this early and I love it!!
ThatDudeInBlue is a Subaru killer !
It's what makes a subaru a subaru
You didn't blow it up, it's an EJ, it blew itself up.
Subarus are finicky, touchy and complex beasts. But if you know what you're getting into, build them right, be aware of these details, man.... they're a JOY to run. And they will RUN.
Can confirm, 500whp 2018 Varis WRX STI owner here. Going strong.
Edit: The engine was built by IAG and the internals were worked by a authorized shop, I ain't doing anything at home with that rofl.
Hows your wrx holding up?
@@exofry94 Still going strong and driving hard! No iissues here :)
Called it. You can't keep E85 in a car for too long.
PLEASE DO A LEXUS ISF REVIEW
Also, David have you driven a VW Jetta TDI Manual yet?
Why don’t u guys use a aem FAILSAFE, should’ve seen the lean condition
Blowing up. It’s what subie motors do
So splitting the block isn't a great DIY idea. But what about swapping in a stage 2 block from IAG and getting the OEM heads re-machined? Are the tolerances on that as tricky if the short block is left untouched from IAG?
I just put my buddys engine together, finished it last night. He got an IAG block and machined his heads and it runs no problems.
Man, I want to love Subarus but jesus christ.
I was just in Des Moine, originally from Illinois!
Is it just me or was there one guy in that shop that didn't seem to fit in with the rest?
Damn my block was literally built on a kitchen table......now i’m scared but it’s been running fine aside from needing another set of spark plugs to throw at it to get the misfire codes dealt with. The block should be fine it’s built with a laundry list of supporting parts
I built mine on a plastic folding table.
Wonder why a built Subaru is so involved to time? Stock Subaru engines are super easy to time maybe ots because the case split? I'm interested to know as I do timing on Subaru and heads from time to time but they are stock cars
Lol looks like your wideband says htr=hater. Much respect brotha I also have a subi and have been watching your vids for years and live in the 757.
I may be missing a joke here but that likely meant "heater".
I'm sure the wideband is trying to calibrate just thought it was funny after all that work and the camera inside the vehicle was still saying htr.
Best Nissan ad I've ever seen lol
Yo I live in cedar rapids iowa. Shout out man!
Well so far no engine issues with my Terminator
@HonkeyConk pretty much why I never built the 07 STI I had
These motors aren't meant for this kinda power period. Sure, a 1.6 na motor could be upgraded to make 1000hp but will it last long enough to matter? No.
Grayson looks like Braun Strowman
Smeedia had his 2017 eg33 built by outfront that is really cool
Thats guy is so irritating to watch. He's got alot of content, but Ive never been able to get thru one of his videos. After awhile it's like just stop talking for 2 minutes and show the car.
@@christopherhuff3123 He’s just very informative! It’s for people that actually want to learn a thing or two...
Add those suspected causes to most cars and watch the rebuild bill come in, not exclusive to EJs.
Have a goddamn EJ20 that will crank but won't fire. The so-called Subie pro says he can't figure it out. Similar to what this doing. Any suggestions on what's a common issue that causes this or that could POSSIBLY fix this???🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ThatDudeinBlue Hey David im still gonna build my subaru at home ;) however not for 1200hp and yes it will be a daily still, will my block be line honed and bored yes from a ma and pop shop? yes. Do they have the tooling and machines for it? yes they do. David sir i do mostly agree with you for the complex things that need to go to a legit shop for but not all things need to go there. Im also building an Evo 9 in my garage right now that will be capable of 900whp, that same mom and pop shop line honed and bored that block. however will it be running that high??? no it will not a modest 550-600 pump should do fine to hurt most peoples feelings. Love what you do Love your channel! i'm just busting some nuts here in the comments :D
I know many builders who habe never line honed a subaru wngine and those cars are still running to this day. Maybe if your going for high hp, but i dont believe thats always the case. Just my opinion
If I buy a pos subie I’m just gonna do a catback. Or is that too much ?
It’s a Subaru that’s what happened. Sorry it was too easy. I love Subaru’s and sold them when the wrx and STi launched in the USA. Sold the first one ever out of our dealership as guy put a deposit down months before we got it.
The car had performance anxiety 🌚😂
My 2015 STI with 100,400 miles got rod knock. Wasnt stock either.
I can't believe this guy is saying there is more places in Aus who can machine these motors than there is in the US.
More than a handful down here building in house engines ranging from the standard drive in drive out 400hp all the way to 1000+ HP cars with and without billet blocks.
should of kept your eye on the AFR :D?
When something leans out immediately like that, there's nothing you're gonna do to stop it lol
Subarus blow up if you even suggest it might lean out
He had multiple fuel cut and decide to continue trying to push it.... Hello
"Let me film youuuuu!" 😂😂😂
T.D.I.B- its doing somethi..
Other dude- keep going 👀