West Ham v Man United 1975 - 6,000 Red Army Invade Upton Park. Here’s What Happened Next
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- Date : October 1975
Location : South Bank, Upton Park, West Ham
Match : West Ham United v Manchester United
Firms : ICF (Inter City Firm) v Red Army
Result : 2-1
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As a Cardiff fan of 50 years, I was a 14 year old schoolboy when man utd came to Ninian park in 74. Man utd did NOT take the Grange end of Cardiff. It was mental that day.
I and my mates went in the Chicken Run that day because it was one of times I went with my dad and we struggled to get into the South Bank owing to the queues. I remember
the ground being packed to the rafters. There was an unbelievable atmosphere in the air that made these sort of games so addictive. The tension was heightened because of the
number of Man U supporters there and showing their colours. Most of their fans were squashed into the corner of the South Bank nearest to us.
We got news it went off outside the entrance & they were being followed in by West Ham fans. At no time did that corner settle and it was swaying to & throw from
top to bottom & to side to side. You just knew it would be a matter of time before it would kick off!
If I remember rightly it seemed to start from the middle entrance behind the goal were most of the West Ham fans stood and then there was an almighty surge forward from the
back of the stand, above the Manchester fans. The fighting followed on and that's when a lot of the Mancs spilt onto the pitch. Only problem was they had nowhere to go because
all the home fans wouldn't let them.
The police had to make their way into the South Bank to make room for the fans to return. It seemed like there were West Ham everywhere. But my main memory was watching a
spinning can full of beer, hit a copper right in the face. It hurt me then seeing that and it hurts me now thinking about it.
The East End/ east london was full of brawlers who loved a scrap.. when the call went out there were plenty of willing lads⚒
😴😴😴
🤣🤣🤣 what was it concrete boots in your Manor!! Ffs!
Same as when those goon brothers the gays? turned up in Manchester! Didn't get 100 yards from the train before they were told " get back on your puffer train and fuckoff" by members of quality street gang!! Puff gone!!
Im a united fan and i was there that day and basically everything that was said on this vid was true,west ham did the business that day...we had to wait 10 years for our revenge in the f.a cup in 85 at o/t..between 75 and 85 of course there were "offs",but nothing like those 2 Years...credit where its due,west ham always showed..respect!👍👹
Well said fella 👏👏👏⚒
Would you say that you also got a slap on the Ferry incident? I think the late great Brian Moore saw these Upton Park scenes and was a bit disgusted! I now understand him but at the time it was vitally important to us.
@@TheWESTSIDE1967...thanks but just saying how I saw it,i don't mind talking about those days as long as the other tells the truth or what's the point,take it easy pal!👍👹
@@mickfoskett6629 👍 spoke before, course we never had it all our own way & been done, but think it's fair to say we was the best in London, would you agree
I was asking Mick about the ferry incident.@@TheWESTSIDE1967
what pissed me off that day anyone could see the agro coming for weeks before the game and the police let it happen.
they seemed clueless back then and only reacted after trouble happened. There were no mobile phones or social media to tell all.
I was in the south bank behind the goal with my mate, he was a West Ham , yeah there was skirmishes but all blown out of proportion and exaggerated, didn’t see any trouble out side.
The whole football hooliganism thing is hype and almost urban myth these days
And this my, Millwall, Cardiff, Portsmouth, Tottenham, Arsenal, QPR, Birmingham, Everton, Liverpool, City, Man Utd, Wolves, Leicester, Notts Forest, Villa, Boro, Leeds and chelsea frienemies is why West Ham United are truly Englands No. 1
COYI!
Exactly mate ⚒
Somebody give me an alarm clock😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
@@hooligoonerherdeie9682 lol, no need, you’re already awake and this is real life! COYI!
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 until you get into Europe and row the like's of Roma, Napoli, Galatasaray, Juventus, Lazio, Ajax, Marseille and PSG, you haven't earned your stripe's, the reason why a lot of English club's despise us (Arsenal), is cause we get to row in Europe, 90% of English football club's never had that experience.
@@hooligoonerherdeie9682 I remember when Neil Tennant was the leader of the herd. Thats why you lot were always so well dressed. Neil being one of the gays wouldn’t stand for a shoddily dressed turnout and would bum any man that dared defy him! 😱
True story….
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In short united are the best travelling fans in England
They. Was in 70s imagine 20 thousand hitting your town
That’s true most of them live in Yeovil
scousers are the best traveling fans, all over europe
Didn't have to travel far to go to Upton Park;Man Utd fans all live in London.
Lot of original comments here
My memories of the few games i attended in the 70s are of pretty hopeless policing. Also sometimes the incredible crushes on the terraces..leaving west broms ground with the away support ,the push to leave was scary. 'We are evil' chants from the back as the crowd pushed into a bottle neck.feet literally off the ground.
There was no ban on man united fans at this game. There was however tube strikes/disruptions that may have prevented a few more fans from coming.
Although OB ordered turnstiles to shut about 2.30 with just under 39,000 inside. Upton Park capacity back then was 42,000.
After this fixture, Man utd at Upton Park became all ticket.
I've read before that this was revenge for 1967, but if thats the case why wait nearly 10 years? These 2 clubs played each other every year except for 73/4 season
I was 19 at the time - in the South Bank but at the other corner. The Police were targeting the United fans - anyone wearing a united scarf were being thrown out even if they were not involved. To avoid being chucked out we put our scarfs inside our jackets. At the final whistle we made our way out only to be confronted by fellow United fans, who had been chucked out earlier, out for revenge attacking W Ham fans. There were pockets of fights all the way back to Upton Pk station but we made it back. I don't recall any trouble whilst on the tube.
What was travelling to London like back then scary?
Fuck me how old are you now mate ?
@@mufc99okmost of them lived down here or home counties 😂🤣
Best supported club in the land and in Manchester fact
@@mufc99okTravelling around London on the tube on a Saturday was scary back then, you had to have your wits about you! 😂
When you ever going to do the Tottenham Hotspur v man u game 1975 another game they got battered at
When he does the game when Tottenham actually did something at Old Trafford like never, all you London firms never did anything at Old Trafford back in them days it was *always* United turning up at all of yours so pipe down mush no Reds rated any of you back then as you simply never ever came and did anything.
Deal with the facts.
@@Bri-254 Arsenal had a go at the Stretford in the 80s, sometimes unsuccessful, but we gave it a go, you're totally wrong💯
@@hooligoonerherdeie9682
Stretford End no you didnt only Rangers tried and a few Chelsea on a night game both poor attempts.
Arsenal can take credit for having a go at Deansgate but leave the we had a go in The Stetford End nonsense out, Because you have geezers like me who were at every game back then and know the score and will tell everyone the truth.
London firms were all piss poor in Manchester.
Everton, Boro & Liverpool deserve a mention also Forest to a certain extent.
70s & early 80s dont even mention London firms coming to Old Trafford and doing anything.
@@Bri-254 yes we did, we may not have won our attempt's, but we certainly gave it a go on the Stretford End, and there was a lot of fighting on Oxford Road and Salford/Trafford back in the day, we'll always give it a go, win, lose or draw, if you don't believe me, then go read the Aston Villa hooligan book, you'll see photo's of us fighting in The Holte End, even some Villa fan's said us Gooner's and Herd are very brave and never back down from a fight.
@@Bri-254 we fought Middlesbrough too at Riverside, and we conquered the West Ham ICF and Millwall Bushwacker's a few time's, we weren't so good travelling up North, but more up for it in rival London matches.
Well rumours was at that one there using knives , they wasn't was just a rumour thats why lot of us went on pitch , just a good owd punch up , you always always have remember United was, never firmed up then , as i repeat myself constantly it was just your mates
United werent banned, 8 of us travelled down but only 3 of us got in,It was basically West Ham coming from behind and attacking any Reds barmies included and fights breaking out all over The South Bank.
We always travelled on mass to West Ham back in the day but not them to us they never done anything like that at Old Trafford, we would take thousands to them.
How many barmies traveled in those days, you knew if you went to football in those days, that there was a good chance it could kick off
I was there it was carnage coyfi
Who won the fight fa cup final Man. United vs Arsenal in 1979 ???
Arsenal.
Wembley overrun with Utd as was London that weekend including thousands in arsenal end
@@JohnJohn-zn8ib thank you mate😎🥂
@Timmy-ne2qv this must have been the semi-final, Everton were a good cup team back then, 70s and 80s.
@@redflag8970 OK, nice one mate😎🥂
Policing, segregation and reporting was a joke that day. Firstly, there was no segregation. Reds fans were split up, by the police, and ended up in three or four sections of the ground. The main section was along the side where the players came out. I was in the end where most of the trouble was, but, luckily, in the left-hand corner. It was the more heavily populated (by Reds) right-hand corner that seen most of the trouble. There were 1,000 - 1,500 reds in that corner that were being constantly attacked from behind by, at least 3,000, West Ham fans . The police did nothing. The United fans had no option but to escape by going on the pitch - they were getting battered! They DID NOT invade the pitch - they had no choice because of crap segregation and policing. The newspapers carried large headlines of United fans invading the pitch - which just wasn't true. Later in the week, when the truth came out, there were much smaller stories confirming what had REALLY happened.
United weren't in four parts of the ground, that is utter bullshit
You read the evening news about the trouble on the way home Cant remember a sat night paper in london if their was it got printed fuking quick
There was …The Sports Eco …printed saturday afternoon had all results but only commentry from first half as had to go to print ….days before ceefax….I used to deliver the paper
Evening Standard was pretty sharp on being put out. By the time you have left the ground and ambled to the Tube then a paper was ready.
Not banned at that time, season after 76/77 , was at both , West ham got there early, had their little moments of glory ,attacking from behind when the victims are crushed at the front, fact.
There's no shame at getting dun you div expect it because you did get bash up and learn to live with that fact
Red army took Upton Park I don’t think so !! Lol 😂
Don't take it personally. You probably don't understand the size of United's Red Army back then.
You didn't have to take an entire ground, you just needed to go into the most infamous stand of the opposition and get stuck in to take the "win".
The original tourist club Numbers mob ,😂@@59jalex
@@59jalex all man u did was get in early before there was any WEST HAM so you can't claim to take it, it has to be fought over & the opposition removed ad we did at the shed end Chelsea for example & stay there, most man u wasn't there for the fighting but just wanted to make sure they got in to see the game & soon got caught up in it, don't forget too cockney reds, dress the same & sound the same so were able to mingle freely, when word got out WEST HAM mainly mile end mob & mainly Skins stormed the Southbank causing the overspill & battered man u, the carnage went on all night & they were given no mercy & never forgot it, Upton park was NEVER took by anyone, fact ⚒
67 utd had over half the crowd including the northbank.
@@redflag8970 rubbish mate, you had numbers but not what your saying, & upton park was never took by anyone ever ⚒
Man U smashed everyone at the time but finally got battered at Tottenham in 75
The time to remember the time to recall was the great Man Utd the best of them all, they came down to Tottenham in 75 they stood in the Park lane the Paxton the side but Tottenham were many and ready to ruck and the great Man Utd got battered to fack
It's a cert Tottenham wouldn't get battered at Old Trafford......they never fuckin turned up 😂
@@shaunangell2265 That’s true the first time I went to old Trafford was 78 after we got promoted.
You can’t really compare the two followings as we all came from London Essex and Hertfordshire.
Man Utd fans came from all over the country and there were millions of you
Took every division 2 ground really I'm still waiting to meet any man utd fan who went to the den or wasn't bash up by cardiff get your facts right
you know in your heart that united has the best firm in the country. It’s infamous
@@Johndoe-gf7eu nonsense you talk nonsense. I know it hurts you went you think your number 1 and a little club in bermondsey south London shows you that you wasn't it hurts but facts are facts
I was at The Den it was a Monday night game if I remember correctly as we played West Brom away on the Saturday, Nowhere near as many Reds as usual but far more than what Millwall brought in the return match at Old Trafford that's a stonewall fact.
As for the football special from Manchester breaking down that's a myth, A Red pulled the emergency alarm and on advice from the police British Rail were told not to go any further.
You don't half get some whoppers in these comment sections, Commenting on incidents and games they weren't at or probably were not even born and heard it 3rd hand from their grandads mate.
All through the 70s and through the mid 80s there was 3 of us who never missed a game home or away it was just the way it was back then, If United were playing we went,Simple as.
@@Bri-254 I must say not many frims did go to united in 70s there is a picture of Harry the dog with a millwall union jack in the Stratford end .but we not talking about the return game .we talking about the biggest club in the world man utd who took 10 thousands everywhere they went but not on that night why ? how many would there be on a train anyway. .went united scored in the 1 0 win it was silence that's how I remembered it .
@@Bri-254 There may well have been a few Utd in the ground that night but none of them showed out and that really is 'a stone cold fact'.
South bank , not a place for the faint hearted . Had many a great day there
United fans were banned that day from attending but a lot still did.But coz of the ban they were easily outnumbered by West Aaaaaam!
Loads of Reds locked outside too by all accoubts?
So what's your excuse for the no show at millwall the season before? Please don't say the train broke down or was smash up
@@littlefish1167mate are you seriously
Arguing about football fights from 40 years ago? Come on man grow up
@@littlefish1167 no idea fella i was 8! Just sayin what i’ve read many times over the years.. i.e. Monday night trip to South London in 1974 wasn’t exactly easy to sort n that yeh, 1 train ( the special) did break down in London.Not tryin to be all ‘My Dads bigger than your Dad m8.. I’m 57 ffs lol But if u wanna go down those lines.
Your excuse for a no show at United on a Sat afternnon?
@@Johndoe-gf7eu I'm not arguing but we talking about Manchester united the biggest club in the world at that time was taking over 10.000 fans were ever they went who back then was getting over 50.000 at home games. But didn't show up to a little club in bermondsey. We are talking about a world wide frim with the worse haircuts the worse clothes the biggest petrols lamps the world as ever seen just bottle it I find that funny
Ohh yes the train broke down all the C reds got stuck just out side manchester lol.@@littlefish1167
The mancs still dress the same way today as they did then,EVERTON FC WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED GWLADYS STREET END SCALLIES 100pc SCOUSE AND PROUD OF IT 💙
Man United kicked to fucked by Everton 2005 called the battle of Everton Valley, some of their 450 lads had a go but the rest hid behind the bizzies, 100 mancs and a dozen bizzies ended up in Walton hospital
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...love the numbers you came up with..🤡!!🙄👹
Tru@mickfoskett6629 trust me the munichs got kicked to fuck all the way to lime Street, their the northern version of Millwall, they never get done,but they did that night,let down by their own shithouse fellow firm who hid behind the bizzies, worst hiding the 58's ever took, I heard they cried all the way back to London!!
@@mickfoskett6629 " Always look on the runway for ice 😂"
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