Is 2020 RAV4 Quieter than 2019? Decibel Level Test Decides!
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- Used a Decibel Level app to see if the 2020 Toyota RAV4 is any quieter than its 2019 model.
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Toyota Jeff test the Rav 4 hybrid.
RAV4 FWD with Winter tires VS
RAV4 AWD with all season tires.
Which is better in snow?
The first test you performed had the A/C running in the 2019 model. The second had the A/C off and it was obviously lower decibels in the 2020 model. IMO, I would recreate the video with minimal or no speaking.
To Toyota: Why not add "blanket" in the first place, instead of waiting until customers complain?
Toyota have got lazy and complacent lately, they are taking advantage of their loyal fan base by just not producing the best they can. I wonder if the 8 speed auto problems are sorted and the direct injection engine.
many manufacturers did this trick. E.g. you have to order them with ford now instead of being standard on SEL / Titanium models
Because the RAV4 is one of Toyota's popular US models. So every $ they save per vehicle adds up. But you would think the Limited would have it standard. Hope it's
a dealer installed item for the 2019's.
because these Toyotas aren't Japanese at all. They're tailored and built by American/Canadian work force.
Every penny toyota saves by being cheap is an extra penny that goes into the pockets of greedy executives.
Added Android auto and hood blanket for 2020, leaves us 2019 owners quite gagged, two things that should have already been in the resigned model in 2019....
There is some talk that Toyota may offer AA on the 2019, with some sort of cost sharing involved.
@@rabbitruck that would be welcomed for sure!
One of many reasons to never buy the first year's model after a major redesign.
@@Monkeyseemonkey79 Yeh good point, I was due on my lease and got into the new one, but your right on that ...
On a car that can be optioned to $41,000
The fact that we are talking about the noise level of the RAV 4 is indicative that there is a problem.
Exactly! The fact that my 10 year old kia has much better NVH than a brand new toyota is appalling
For the price these new Rav 4's should come with hood insulation, engine compartment led lighting and hood struts.
Hybrids come with hood blankets.
Changed my interior and exterior lights all to LEDs for under $100.
James :) i just got my car a few days ago and i‘m loving it...but wondering where you can get the LEDs for the interior? Thanks inadvanced
Exactly. You pay a fortune and you get a car which is not faster than a car of half the price. It also no premium car such as a BMW as the noise and dynamics are not good. Rather go for a slightly smaller and cheaper SUV or go premium for a bit more.
Hood struts eventually fail, hood props last forever.
@@stuartstuart866 Never had that problem.
I actually don't mind the roar of the engine since the RAV4 looks more rugged and truck like. 👍🏽
The comparison also had the moonroof as an influencing factor. I’m not sure about other people’s experience, but I feel that moonroofs make cars noisier and also have less headroom.
They do have less headroom. They are noisier when you have the head room pulled back, but window still closed.
I have never understood why people would want a hole in a perfectly good roof? Especially in the south.
@@williamporter558 more space sensation, more light, fresh air without getting blown by the wind, to watch the stars 😂
Thanks Jeff for making this video. We rented a 2019 RAV4 several months ago and the loud engine noise when accelerating was my main complaint. We’ll rent a 2020 and see how it does when accelerating from a stop. We are also happy android auto was added.
Stuart Stuart let us know when u do please
Mine is 2019 hybrid in Saudi Arabia and this video made me go and check my car. And we do have the blanket already in 2019 model year
Yep! The hybrids in 2019 had hood blankets.
Same in Europe
i actually love the engine roar every time i step on gas pedal
i always believed that best things happen to people who wait
Man you said it. I stayed patient, saving for years driving around a clunker and yesterday I drove off with a 2020 Rav 4 and I couldn't be happier
Yes, I'm waiting for the rav4 prime. I'll get it this summer
RAV4 FWD with Winter tires VS
RAV4 AWD with all season tires.
Which is better in snow?
Idle speed test 2019 vs 2020, ac/fan was ON in the former model and was OFF in later. Conditions should be exactly same for accurate comparision
This test is inaccurate cos you keep talking. Outrageous!
He needs to stfu! Annoying af!
@@22yug You can say that again!
@@22yug if you dont like it then dont watch the video
@@22yug What happened to the common sense, i.e. don't watch if you don't like it. No one is forcing us to stay and watch.
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Thanks Jeff. The video I was waiting for. I was one of the folks who had an issue with no hood blanket on the 2019, so I purchased a 2019 Highlander instead. Feel the HL is too big for my needs, do plan on aggressively paying it off and replacing it with the 2020 RAV4 in about a year. Thanks again.
And your Highlander is quiter? I was actually planning on doing the opposite thing. Exchange my rav4 for the HL
lc2051 my Highlander is not as quiet as I expected, primarily when reaching higher speeds or on uneven road surfaces. Toyota advertises this vehicle as having a quiet cabin. I don’t think so. Others on “Toyota Highlander Owners Club” have complained about the noise level as well.
The road surface as well as tires (and pressures) are both going to contribute. First thing I do when I buy a car is upgrade the crappy tires that mass-market car manufacturers usually install. Go with a touring tire like a Yokohama Avid Touring-S for a quieter ride.
Good to see they now have a hood blanket. Love the silver one :).
The sound reduction
is probably not simply coming from the hood insulator. They probably have added a sound deadening panel in the firewall to isolate better the cabin. They seems to have also better controlled the rpm when acceleration is done on the highway
You left the air running on the 2019 and off on the 2020.
oscar Gonzalez i noticed tat too
still lots of wind noise. At idle the 2019 was cold reved at close to 1500, the 2020 didn't show revs, sounded warmed up Very iffy test.
Also the 2020 is in manual ECO mode which will help keep the engine noise down. As a comparison my 2019 XLE gas is producing the same numbers as the 2020 in this video. So in my opinion the hood insulation has done little to nothing to lower the engine noise.
There is a "blanket" just above the engine on a 2019 rav4. It is not a hard plastic engine cover just for looking, when you touch it, feel like a foam. Actually it functions as heat and noise blocker. It is a new idea from Toyota for cut weight or cost or both? You can buy one from Toyota for just under $200(hood liner), but it only do a little to help on reduce the noise. I feel the car only get noisy when the car is cold or you floor it. I am totally fine with my 2019 rav4 xle, that kind of noise doesn't bother me at all.
Toyota should not have to listen to customers when hood blanket, backlit driver door controls, jerky transmission in low gear, etc should have been included/addressed in the first place. There are ways to put in a hood blanket on the 19 models...from 3rd party sources....thanks Toyota for falling short on these things!
This really should have been standard on the redesigned car, especially being one of the more expensive ones in the segment. Imagine buying a $38,000 car and checking the hood to see bare metal
Since 2000 maybe before almost all car that have the chance to drive hand protection blanket but Toyota try no to use New inventions till the last moment.
The objectionable noise I have in my 2019 RAV is not from the engine, but rather from the road. There seems to be a lot of road noise from the rear of the RAV. On certain pavement surfaces, it is really noticeable.
With ten windows down on mine you get a noticeable clank/clank/clank when slowing down (happens at around 18-20 mph as the car slows). I originally thought it was road noise but heard it audibly in a quiet residential neighborhood (only with windows down can you hear it). Took it to the dealer and they’re in the process of researching it as I rode with the service manager and he heard it also. Narrowed it down to the new dynamic torque vectoring system disengaging. Was told that it’s “normal” and boy was I 😡. They’re still supposed to be getting with their engineers in order to see if there is a solution but I really wish I had stayed away from this tin can. Really want to love it but it’s had a few problems that a brand new car should never have (mooing sound, transmission lurch, etc...)
Took a long drive, the ride & handling was excellent but you are exactly correct road noise is awful! to me :)
The previous RAV4 had the same noise problem under harsh accelaration but was very quiet when it came to wind noise due to it's wedge shape. Road noise suppresion was also pretty good.
Good video as usual Jeff. What is the ground clearance of the 2020 rav4 hybrid models? Also does AWD make a difference in ground clearance?
Hi Jeff, could you try the resting idle with A/C on and off in both for consistency. Currently, 2020 had A/C off while other was blowing cold air.
What about 8 speed transmission
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Tire types struts suspension parts hood door insulation and door windows linings would help wind road noise but mfg auto cut corners cost reduction .
They should have upper trims better insulation for road noise.
70db not bad that’s what my Camry is with the vent visors on. Also before you sell em have the guys in the back put michelin defenders on very quiet tire
From your video it is very obvious they have recognized their mistakes and main complaints. The sound is definetely quieter. Also it is good the 8 speed transmission is smoother on the first and second gear for the gas model. This is why it is important to not buy the first year of a totally redesigned new model. The model 2020 is better and the 2020 hybrid gets 10 years 150k miles warranty. However The price has increased especially on the limited with android auto and the warranty.we will see the plug in that should have 50 miles 80km range and seems to have the 360 camera on the xse design..maybe the 10 inch screen from the highlander. Why not? They have to update the electronic for the plug in i can see the new screen
I'm curious if the tires on both models were the same. That definitely could make a difference.
That Tacoma in the background me : I thought they used it for kruczhing
Thanks Jeff, BSM is still flashing but not providing voice signal inside the cabin ,second issue is heating steering only half is warm...
Did you notice much air noise coming through the door when you were driving?
I bought a highlander 2013 brand new and the air through the door noise and rattles and creeks made me sell. Haven’t bought Toyota since
My wife loves her 2019 RAV4 XLE gas model, but it almost feels like Toyota is trying to punish you with all the noise for not getting a Lexus or hybrid. It has wind noise and unpleasant engine noise that doesn't fit the character of the vehicle.
Geez the American market of RAV4’s have way too many options. In Australia we have just 4 models to choose from with the top 2 being fully optioned out. Makes it a lot less confusing and helps with resale value as you don’t need to go hunting for specific cars with specific options if shopping for a used car. Only thing we really have to choose is 2WD or AWD/Petrol or Hybrid. There’s no packages to choose from either, just accessories.
Why was it missing in the 2019? Virtually every car I have ever owned going back to 1998 had em. So what is their reasoning on that?
I suspect that Toyota deliberately made the gas engine less desirable in order to improve their EPA compliance. Less desirable gas models = higher sales of the hybrid models. Which is a good thing for Mother Earth. I hope Toyota does this with more of their cars, to help nudge the luddites toward more efficient options..
The gas model gets 30 mpg overall. That is terrific as far as compact SUV's go.
It’s not about Mother Earth it’s making the low trim level cars I desirable so people jump up the next trim level and may thousands more for inexpensive features. All car companies do this.
They seem pretty much the same 2019 70, 71 2020 70, 72.
I've watched nearly all your videos & I must say... Toyota corp needs to hire you as Lead Marketing, Human Relations, some role up high in the company...
i don't need a moonroof, but i kinda do need the power tailgate.
That's what I said too! But the added blind spot monitoring, fog lights and push button start made it much sweeter.
That’s where I’m at… I don’t care for a moonroof but I wanted the blind spot monitoring and the extra USB ports and power tailgate is so nice too
Jeff great video as always! Very informative.
However, now is good time to buy 2019 not 2020 right?
Jeff you are as good salesman for Toyota. I have the 2019 Camry XLE, love it. Love your video’s
The Buick Encore is the quietest riding small SUV due, in part, to thick mass loaded vinyl lined carpeting.
This video should have been 30 seconds. No talking!
It looks like your decibel test between 2019 & 2020 maybe flawed because it appears the 2019 had a different trim ( leather trim ) and the 2020 appears to have cloth trim. The cloth would make the sound levels slightly lower.... just my opinion
20 year old cars have hood soundproofing, why the hell a 2019 car doesnt?
My question exactly?
They were trying make them as cheaply as possible.
@@Krzrrazrrokr that and weight reduction.
@@NoName-gv6nm lol there's barely any weight for a felt hood liner. It weighs less than 2lbs. The only reason is cost cutting
Is the rest of the car sound proofed?
I'm a bit taller..(6'3").. Toyota really needs to come out with a real SUV again that sits up higher - instead of these lower over crossovers. With every new version of the Highlander, RAV4, Sienna, etc. Toyota (and other manufactorers) make the new version's stance lower and lower. I sat in this new RAV4 and the ceiling is way too low - making for very cramped headroom and generally uncomfortable cabin. I like to sit up for a high commanding view of the road - thats why I bought a SUV a long time ago. When you sit up higher you see better, which is more enjoyable to drive and safer (and make the vehicle more comfortable). This older versions (10 -20 years ago) of the Highlander, RAV4 and Sienna were far better than the newer versions. The 4Runner is nice and high with an excellent traditional dashboard (nice big knobs and simple traditional controls) .. but it is too focused on off road driving - which makes it not as quite and smooth on the road. Another idea for Toyota is make a version of the 4Runner that is the same except improving it for road (not off road) driving.. (i.e. make it smooth and quite and traditional).. Or maybe make a slightly smaller version of the Land cruiser that is mostly the same, but make it a bit less heavy duty - and cut the price in half. Toyota, you should listen to me - these would be big sellers!!
howlingwolf125y look at Lexus GX 460.
improvements in the new 2021?
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That noise was a deal breaker for me. I’ll have to test drive a 2020 to see if it’s bearable.
What did you find about the 2020? I am a bit concerned about the noise too.
Tnx, Jeff 🤩🤩🤩. Say about new Rav 2020 plugin hybrid and new enchanced warranty 10 year or 150K miles. Tnx You!
if we have the 2019 model, can we have that "blanket" instaled at the dealer & at what price ??
It's should be a free recall for all 2019 by Toyota.
It should be a free recall for all 2019 RAV4
2019 Toyota RAV4 - Making Underhood Insulator From Scratch
th-cam.com/video/slViuutUGSc/w-d-xo.html
I doubt that's the only thing installed to reduce the noise, hood blankets mostly reduce noise from the outside, I'm sure more sound insulation has been added to the firewall.
What about 8 speed transmission
My 2022 limited is still loud... this is ridiculous. Did my own decibel test and was constantly over 80 going 70-75mph
Can you buy a sound blanket separate for a 2019 race 4 xle?
If I buy a 2019 can I tell the dealer to install the engine blanket? I think they should can Toyota can pay that bill.
@Randy Jackson i would complain to toyota coporate about the loud road noise. Tell them if they dont fix you wont be a returning customer. I can't stand when companies cheap out on quality.
That was really cheap of them. My 1999 Tahoe has a hood blanket and so does pretty much every car out there.
Toyota wont cover it.!
@Randy Jackson Not in any 2019 model... Sorry
2020 models are little bit more expensive than 2019 ( a few hundred bucks)... For sure, Toyota will not pay the bill for a blanket.
so in the USA insulation is the only difference between 2019 and 2020 rav 4? not surprising , here in canada my 2019 rav4 has a ready insulation when i bought it...
My 2019 Toyota Camry SE 4 cylinder engine is very loud even with the noise blanket. This is my 3rd Camry 2005, 2012, and now 2019. The 2019 produce the most road and wind noise out of the 3 to me. I don't understand why Toyota can't seem to fix this problem still after all these years. I still love the car but wish it was quieter and for the love God please let Toyota do an upgrade and add android auto to the 2019 models.
I really love the fact that they added auto start/stop technology. I always love your videos Jeff and can you a review of the 2020 RAV4 limited.
Auto start stop is the dumbest thing ever!
It's fine that they offer it...but it needs to be an option to turn it off if you don't want it...and not every time you crank the car up. Just have it off by default. For those few like Ahmad who really love it, it'll be there for those folks. I think it's crap too. Just a way to get the "city" mileage up for the EPA folks.
My 19 rav4 hybrid has the hood blanket. You can add one if it really bothers you.
The road/tire sound is loud to me, larger tires would help?
Jeff thank you, great video. Does RAV4 Hybrid Premium have this insulation?
yes it does
Why didn't they have the hood blanket on in 2019? It isn't like that is something new.
You need to stop talking when testing the engine level. This was a waste of my time.
Joke of a video. Doesn't tell the customer that BOTH of these Rav4's have horrendous amounts of road and tire noise. Doesn't tell the customer there is NO undercarpet or inside the door insulation in either one of them. Anyone looking for a well insulated small SUV should test drive or rent a Buick Encore.
I really enjoyed your video
Why didn’t you put eco mode for the 2019. I think it would get a lower volume
RAV4 is LOUD! 🙉
Good to see. I’ve never driven the RAV4 but I heard reviews that said it was very loud under acceleration. My wife has a C-HR Limited and that thing is extremely loud under acceleration so I largely believed the RAV4 reviews. We wanted to trade in the C-HR for a RAV4 in two years and this new addition of more sound deadening pretty much seals the deal.
Unless of course Toyota decides to offer the lovely Corolla Trek Wagon here in the states. Wishful thinking though lol.
Even if this test is remotely accurate, the difference will still be between "really loud"and pretty much just as "really loud" as the 2019. It's not going to be a transformation.
I don't think A-ha had any other hits now that I think about it.
If one hit paid the bills and then some, I'd retire too.
I noticed for 2020 Toyota got rid of the Tech package for the XLE. I wanted to wait for the 2020 to get a quieter car with cloth seats and the tech package! But now I can’t!!! 😫
Are the engines and transmissions, and gear ratios the same?
Still far away from compatitors. Only reason I don't get the rav 4 is the noise. I drive long distances.
So many basic things were cut out, and at snails pace some are returning
My 2019 XLE Hybrid has a hood blanket!
can you fill up your gas tank though?
@@scgriff9647 my new 2020 Rav4 hybrid fills up to full mark every time.
People worrying about cabin noise first world problems
Toyota the best and most realiable car company ever
Always wait at least 1 year before buying a brand new model... unless leased
You showed RPM in the background on 2019, but not on the 2020 while watching the startup DB levels.
Air/AC was on the 2019 and not on the 2020. Other differences probably exist. Stopped watching after that cause the test is a fail.
There are way too many other variables for this "test" to be of any value.
Do a study on startup motor noises comparing Rav 4 2019-20 & older models. Our dealer said this is normal I disagree, compared to our old 2008 Rav 4 which was much quieter at 245k.
I hope that the upcoming Rav4 plug-in hybrid will have a large enough battery to have a range of at least 25 to 30 miles of all-electric power.
You will be thrilled when you hear more details! I can’t talk about it yet :)
@@Toyotajeff I can't wait till the LA Auto Show in late November to see and get the Specs. I hope the battery will be big enough to get decent all-electric mileage; hopefully 25 miles or more. That is enough to do errands around town without using much if any gas.
My 99 Tahoe has a hood blanket. Why Toyota didnt go for that is beyond me.
Seems to be down by 2 dBs. Not bad. Feel bad for 2019 RAV4 owners.
Toyota is nickel& dam and shortchanged 2019 rav4 buyer,now should be given to the buyer ,if Toyota want buyer happy
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It got this and it got that and bla bla blaa,,,,, the whole net is to convince you to sell your 2019 model on cheap price and buy the new one on high price. WHAT a greedy world we r living in.
I'm more concerned about the transmission issues being addressed.
It has been. Toyota TSB T-SB-0107-19 dated August 15, 2019.
There was an update months ago that fixes it. I found out by researching it myself though. Toyota should have done a better job letting owners know about it.
I don't know if the issue has been fix but I just bought a 2020 and the transmission acts a bit weird so not so sure it was fixed
Air conditioner was off on the second one.
Toyotajeff, I downloaded the same app and tested my Rav 4 LE 2016 and at 70 mph smooth pavement I averaged about 68 to 69 decibels and 71 to 72 decibels at 80 mph.
When I pushed the peddle to the floor at 60 mph it registers 75 decibels.
Road conditions plays a big part. If I drove over an overpass bump it would jump 5 decibels.
I noticed you hit 80 decibels a couple times which tells me generation 5 is louder than the generation 4 and that is why I went with the hybrid gen 5
They basically had to add more sound insulation to the 2020 compared to the 2019 to make it only slightly noisier than the 2018 - great engineering and just another reason to buy something that's been in production a while not the early years of a new model. Between the noise, 8 speed trans issues and the direct injection motor hanging on to the old model for a couple more years seems the way to go. All manufacturers racing to meet the EPA requirements seem to be sending a lot of underdeveloped technologies into the marketplace currently with the customer being the guinea pig.
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I know Toyota is good for reliability, but I didn't know their cost cutting is cut to the bone. Look the steering wheel, a XLE model is still a bare plastic wheel, no leather wrapped wheel?
Most of them are econo plastic boxes. If you want a premium feel get the cx5
Start and stop feature is one of the worst thing to add just to save gas.
This was my opinion before experiencing a good implementation of it. My dad's Wrangler JL has it. I drove the Jeep around, and was amazed that the start/stop was incredibly unobtrusive. I think it all comes down to the individual case of how it is implemented. It is also quite seamless in my hybrid RAV.
syncro87 the point I was trying to make is start/stop will take a toll on your starter it will wear out much faster all it is more money for the dealers to repair.👍🏻
I wonder if this is something you could buy aftermarket
Why did Toyota downgrade the screens on all but the XLE premium and up. Now it's the shitty 7inch screen even on the XSE. How do you downgrade on a newer model year??
17 and 18 RAV was pretty quiet