How Much to Replace Toyota Hybrid Battery? Expert explains costs, life (Toyota Car Care Talk - #11)
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- Our technician Adam explains Toyota Hybrid Battery costs, replacement $$, how long batteries last, process for replacement, much more. Toyota Car Care Talk Episode 11.
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You guys suck. You do an 8 minute video to explain how you don't have to tell us how much it costs to replace a hybrid battery in a newer Toyota hybrid. We already know the prices in the old Prius' so we didn't watch your stupid video for that.
Not surprised your old Prius pack was twice what the real world price is for that.
So how much does the battery cost?
Change your title to: "We're two little click baitors who won't actually tell you anything about what we put in the title.
A 150,000 miles battery warranty. My last Camry went 244,000 miles before I had any repair work done outside of routine maintenance. At that point, I need to replace the catalytic converte, $600. My Camry is still on the road and just rolled over to 400,000 miles.
My Honda Pilot went just over 225,000 miles, and I spent about $2,000 on repairs.
It's far cheaper than replacing batteries.
I'll stick with gas.
Yup. Most people forgot that the money saved on hybrid is actually going for the new battery, not going into their pocket. On top of that having 2 engines means still have to maintain the ICE engine just like regular cars (oil, filter, radiator, etc).
Whereas having regular economical cars with smaller engine can still give you 30mpg at least, it's money you save.
Better skip the hybrid and jump to EV directly when the time is right.
Nope. You can't stick with gas. Go and try to find a new car without hybrid/electric. You might find some tiny Korean car with a diesel, but that is about it. I tried...
@@TechTusiast🤣🤣🤣 You didn’t try very hard, or you are lying for a reason. Which is it? Thousands of new gas only vehicles just a click away or a short drive.
@@garygolfer3243 Go ahead and buy one then...
@@TechTusiast But you said I can’t, now you say I can. I knew you were lying.
I own a 2008 Camry Hybrid and still rolling strong. All I do is change the oil and tires. The most reliable car I have ever owned.
Do you want to say you still drive on the factory installed brake pads?
This is the most important video by far to date with hybrid cars cost…!
My 2014 Camry with 225,000 has had its battery replaced this summer 2023.
The cell pack, my son changed it out on a saturday. I paid $2350 and got new cells in a swap out, $750 core charge which I got back. I put in a new starting battery at the same time. Everything went as planned and I'm back to stock, it still runs great!
Some don't have a son who can change out the cell pack. But let's see how long the new battery lasts, and if it's really new.
where and how did you buy the battery?
Two years ago my GF replaced her Prius battery pack for $800, installed. It was not an OEM but worked fine for the year she had it after.
First of all, thank you Dealer Rep. for being somewhat, if not completely candid while talking about the batteries. The hybrids are usually cheaper than the all-electric vehicles when it comes to battery replacement. It's simply a smaller battery. That being said accidents do happen and batteries get damaged and warranties don't cover that. So I would suggest you find out the cost to replace a battery for the electric motor before buying one of these vehicles. It will be shocking.
I have the 2019 Rav4 Hybrid Limited with 96k miles and my gf has the 2012 Camry Hybrid XLE with 157k miles. We’re both seeing about 40mpg still! We love the Toyota technology and Toyota Jeff’s videos!
You are blessed! I baby my 2016 Honda Pilot and it gets 35 mpg on the interstate. Probably because it shuts down 3 cylinders when it gets up to speed. City and avg mileage is not so good, 24.7 mpg combined. I am thinking about buying a Rav 4 hybrid or a rav 4 prime. Will wait to see what the new model change looks like. The current Rav 4 is the most sought after car in the world!
I am retired and I live in Canada. Due to our climate I would not consider a fully electric vehicle but I would consider a hybrid if I drove enough miles. I now only use my vehicle to run a few errands, get groceries, etc. and I only use maybe half of a tank of gas per month so fuel cost isn't a big part of my budget. I think that the simplicity and lower purchase price of a non-hybrid is a good choice for my situation. MY friend bought a new hybrid Camry as well a Rav 4 hybrid when he retired and he is really happy with both of his vehicles. He still drives quite a bit so the hybrid vehicles are a good choice for him. Thank you for the video!
I was doing the math also. At 10K yr for 10 yr, the hybrid only save about $1800.00 in total with vehicle cost and gas. Since retired, I am down to less than 8K yr, so I think I will get the regular RAV4 AWD in about 5 years! LOL Crazy times as I may only be able to buy non electric one last time!
you've done the right thing, hybrids are good if you drive a lot and constantly, for example you'll see Uber drivers getting crazy mileage out of original hybrid batteries. However if you are retired and do short trips a few times a week that will kill your hybrid battery much faster. Not really designed for that kind of use.
@@martinscocan5221 I did not even think about trying to use enough to keep the hybrid battery up to snuff. So the answer is definitely regular gas Rav4. Well, I hope the 2013 truck lasts 5 more years! lol
@@johnp2209 oh yes I want an acid factory under my crack while driving down the road NOT!!
Retired Canuck here too. Just want to say that it's a good idea and fun, to take it out for a good run once in a while. Lots of short runs are hard on a vehicle.
We've bought a 2006 Highlander Hybrid new. My wife drove it for several years, then it's moved down through all three kids. Still running great, 430000km. No major repairs whatsoever, no issues with the hybrid battery.
WOW 267189 miles, can't complain about that
Wow... That is amazing to know and thank you for sharing. I am on the fence to buy 2024 GX 550 and will now wait for the hybrid options to being offered.
Clea; the hybrid battery’s cooling fan filter ( very easy ) check it every couple months at first and if it isn’t getting dirty move that up to every 4-6 months and so on. If you put shedding pets in the vehicle or drive on dusty roads ( sanded roads in winter ) with the windows rolled down check and clean more often. Never put liquids ( water bottles, pop, or a bag of ice cubes ) on the back seat. If you get water / liquid on the back seat it may enter the battery compartment and that’s not a good thing. Change the hybrid invertor’s coolant ( same as the engine coolant but a separate system, fairly easy to do ). Change as per the owners manual AT 150,000 miles or just before or at ( before ) 5 years no matter what the mileage is. If you let the hybrid vehicle sit for long periods of time 1-6 months or drive very rarely or very little mileage, consider a battery maintainer ( trickle charger ) for the small 12 volt battery that’s in the back ( not the hybrid battery ). Some of the vehicle’s systems are still on when the car is parked and over a couple months or more ( faster in very cold temps ) that small battery will run down quite a bit. Another TH-camr who is a Toyota Dealership’s sales manager just did a video saying the price of a 2023 RAV4’s hybrid battery is about $3600-$3800 Canadian dollars. That and 5 hours labour ( the job likely takes a Toyota Tech about half that time ) is quite a bit less than $7000 USDs. Since a properly ( and easily ) maintained Toyota hybrid vehicle typically has no hybrid issues for 12-15 years and or 300,000 miles ( t500,000 Kim’s ) and the brakes last much longer, there’s no alternator to replace and most hybrids get almost double the fuel mileage in city driving, plus a gas vehicle will need 2 or 3 brake jobs, maybe a $4000-$6000 transmission and other things a Toyota hybrid won’t need you’re NOT out a pile of money. I don’t see why people think Toyota Hybrids are like Teslas and Hyundais with their $40,000 + battery replacements. As a bonus the current Generation Rav4 hybrid accelerates better than the gas RAV4.
@@Zeek800 What do you think about the Rav-4-Prime?
While the battery may not be defective, I have to wonder how much capacity it has remaining.
That battery sure chews up your savings on your operating costs. I'm sticking with combustion.
Mee too😊
Soon all cars will be at least hybrid, gas and electric, not just gas
No in about 5 years from now. When all these degrading batteries have to be replaced by the owners for thousands this will end it.
@@michaelkuhn402 Go short on copper stocks lol. Last time I checked, there is 180 lbs of copper in each ev. 130 lbs in phev and 80 lbs in hybrids. I only have combustion now.
Can’t beat an original design😂
This video has answered most of my questions and concerns
and this is what misinformation does.. i have a diesel and a hybrid which would you have
I bought a new 2011 Prius and at 100,000 miles I had no problems whatsoever. I knew two guys with the same year of Prius in avionics who worked with me and they already knew what was involved, but we never had any trouble
This video is a rarity must-watch in the world of misinformation and dodging the important questions about EVs. 10/10 for asking and fully answering all the important questions without all the usual hot air used to cover the truth. Well done guys.
Since writing the above and reading the comments below, which I agree with, it is becoming clearer that given the time the battery has to be changed, due to the EV battery and fitting high cost, the EV resale value falls through the floor. One independent report by an EV sympathizer said it is now evident that the EV-buying public have been used as guinea pigs because the manufacturers had no background information to judge what the future of used EVs would be, which is now. The main manufacturers are now walking away from making EVs because of the inherent problems. Hydrogen seems to be the way to go but needs a lot of development before the engines have a decent autonomy of 400 to 500 miles. I have deep reservations about hydrogen reactors. In the meantime, my preferred options are some advanced petrol and diesel cars that have incredibly low particle emissions and low consumption. In my view, it is not the time to throw the internal combustion engine baby out with the bath water. Banning the sale of petrol and diesel cars will have to be scrapped and rethought.
The problem is that they fail to discuss the infrastructure problem and the fact that China owes the mines where all the battery components are.
@@kevingeier5656 The problem is some people do not want to see EV technology prosper.
the thing is this isnt an ev its a hybrid and it doesnt run the same battery tech as an ev this is Nimh where as ev is lipo4 ..... these guys got this badly wrong
@@moorefacts6605 i effing hate ev's and being an ex owner of one im happy to say that and that wh i have gone to hybrid
@@vandamonium1731 This is now a lithium battery. I have the non plug in model.
I did my 2010 Prius in the front yard in 100F deg weather. Did it in 3 hours. That involved swapping out modules. Had to do some troubleshooting and modification. That took forever.
Cost about $2,240 and I got to keep my old modules to resell.
What is the actual combined voltage of the battery pack? Any good to use for solar application? Thanks.
@@DownUndaDigga maybe 235v. I'm not really sure. I have no idea about using for solar.
Ok. Thanks. Just seeing if the smashed one I have can be repurposed. 👍
So what was happening that you knew your battery needed replacement? Do you get a warning light saying it's bad or won't charge... Was the vehicle still completely driveable in full gasoline mode? Does regenerative braking stop working?
What exactly was the sequence of events and your observations would be appreciated.
@@DownUndaDiggaI would not use NiMH battery for solar, they don’t store as much as Lithium ion batteries, think about 1:4 in term of energy density, and lithium can charge and release electricity at higher rate.
Very informative....excellent work boys...
Y'all know what goings on
A hybrid vehicle has both a gasoline engine and a battery ststem so if the battery is in need of a charge, the gas engine can charge the batterie pack and it also gives the car a power boost under acceleration but when cruising on a leavel road the battery suplies all the power too the wheels. A great system and you dont have too find a charging station every 3 or 400 miles to recharge the battey pack.
That's what is so good about hybrids, no range anxiety (which I think is a game changer) and if you charge at home it's probably half the price of a charging station and in some situations maybe even 75% cheaper, so a win , win , win!!
Im thinking you need to clarify when your hybrid motor is in use with your dealer. Btw, you left out the stopping for gasoline, coffee, pottying and a meal ?
I have a 21 chr, great car and love it but the 10 year warranty is only if you have main dealership service at £380 pounds every year even if you only do low mileage
I have been watching "The Car Care Nut" channel. And it doesn't take 5 hours to replace the Toyota hybrid battery.
i just did also. all i need to know, how to buy a bettery if needed.
You're going to pay the Chilton (if they still use that labor estimate) rate if the dealer takes one hour or five hours.
Very true. An Indy hybrid battery shop can swap a Camry battery in an hour or so.
If a guy pulls out the Chilton BS turn around and leave. Get on the internet and look up local indy car repair shops with a 5-star Yelp rating. @@cousinfester4621
And you are not getting a new battery as implied by the dealer. It is a refurbished battery that only replaced the bad cells leaving the marginal cells in the battery to fail in short order. This happens even when it fails under warranty.
Excellent presentation and very simple explanation by a very good talker.
Priceless information, thanks for posting this video
I have a 2014 Prius with 310,000 miles with original hybrid battery still get me 49 mpg, absolutely love it. Will get a RAV4 hybrid next car. Toyota I trust
Wow, about 30k miles per year!
I wish my Toyota dealer is as caring and honest as this gentleman.
That gentleman will charge you $5k for something what usually costs $2k-$3k.
Good luck. They all abide by the dealer rule.
Don't be fooled by a TH-cam video. All dealers will fleece you given the opportunity.
I drive my ICE cars 20+ years and never had a high cost repair on my Honda and Toyotas. My current Honda is a 2008. I like the way they talk about 10 years. He never did quote a price to replace newer system.
If you are buying a hybrid for long term, make sure you compare the battery replacement cost and warranty between the brands of vehicles you are shopping for. There is a huge difference between brands. I checked with a local Honda dealer in Canada and he quoted for the new CRV, the battery was around $12,000 Canadian plus labor! I would assume this is high due to a relatively new model with not many sold yet. Hopefully in time, as more are sold the price would come down. Toyota is definately a leader in hybrids with many years of manufacturing them.
Not worth to buy hybrid car.
well thats insane price. That's more than a new Gas motor and labor. I heard Prius was about $2000 for battery?
Check how much a dealership in the US would charge. It might be worth the drive.
Here is the Cost in USA (in Greenback US Dullars... 😆 😆) 8k USD$ max would be about 12k CAD&; but since we should not keep our Car (Hybrids) longer than 10 years; Warranty is 8-year by Honda. Then after 8 years we should buy a Refurbished Honda 🔋 🔋 = 2,500 USD; and when this replacement is Dying on us = it would be time to buy a New Honda Hybrid Model 2035 = C'est La Vie... It costs more nowadays to keep a vehicle longer than 12 years. Just recycle so that Jobs can be Created. Besides any Cars/SUV made in Canada gets rusted after 10 years,... haha 😂 😂 = Cost much more to treat and body Works.
In Japan an averaged Car driving about 8-10k (km) not like 20k miles annually like USA; even in Quebec, with many Public Transportation services ─ an average of 15,000 km Driving annually for Canadians living in Quebec/ or Quebecois = C'est La Vie.
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Let’s say you’re due for your hybrid car battery replacement. How much will it cost to replace? Hybrid battery replacement costs can range anywhere from $2,000 to $8,000. This will depend on the type of car you drive, the size of your battery, and other factors. Here are a few other factors to consider when contemplating your hybrid battery replacement cost:
Batteries perform the best in a stable and mild environment, so if you live in a climate with extreme temperatures, you might need to replace your battery more often.
Your car will warn you of any battery issues through its built-in warning system. So if you see new lights pop up on the dashboard, schedule your service appointment at your next convenience.
Hybrid cars are reliable and dependable, but sometimes components malfunction. While you might expect to need a hybrid car battery replacement, you might actually need another service - which is why a proper diagnosis is so crucial.
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Honda Hybrids are JUNK, their batteries are twice as expensive compared to a Toyota, Honda Hybrids fails a lot and they are bad as KIA and Hyundai
He said his shop sees 6000 cars a month??? |Ain't NO WAY!!! if they were open 7 days a week that's 200 cars A DAY. 6 days a week is 250 per day, and 5 days a week 272 CARS PER DAY. I thought Toyota were suppose to be great cars?
A high volume center could employ as many as 20-25 technicians. So 250 cars a day probably means that these guys are taking 3 lunches.
There’s no way they see that many cars. Unless he’s counting all the cars that are driving past the dealership..
@@victormaholik594 I worked in a small volume Toyota dealership, which meant that we only had 15 service bays. This guy probably has 20 to 30 service base and can easily do that many cars.
I think he means all car brands
You’ve still got to service the vehicle regularly! Oil changes etc. Unless, of course , you’re one of those owners who drives until a warning light comes up?
Only cost me $2300 to replace the hybrid battery for a new lithium battery in my 2012 prius original lasted 220k miles
Under warranty ?
It's WAY cheaper to replace batteries, than people think.
This was not done at a dealership for sure.
Thanks for this production, we are in our 70's and we highly are considering a Prius Prime IF they aren't too low for us to get in & out of
I had to have a hybrid battery replacement in my 2018 Rav4 hybrid due to cold shock (-30 for 3 weeks in Alaska no garage) but it was covered under warranty and I remember seeing the cost was a pretty penny. Had my Tundra in for service recently and a woman with an 07 Prius got the news her hybrid battery needed to be replaced and it was more than her Prius was worth so she just decided to buy a new Prius. I know they last a long time under typical conditions, and the warranties are even bigger now than they were then. I always go hybrid when possible with Toyota, has 4 now and never they've all been great.
Love the term "was more than her Prius was worth". Remember, a car is not an investment. It's worth whatever it costs to replace it. Five thousand for a new battery vs. $45k to $60k for a replacement car. If the old car still works well (because you've maintained it) $5k is allot less than $45k. BTW, my 2008 Prius has 276k miles on it and still runs fine. I'll put $5k into it and run it another 15 years.
@@randardoin1161 yes but if she had spent that much money on replacing a battery and someone totalled her car she would have lost all that money cause insurance isn't going to pay for maintenance. I don't blame her for buying a new vehicle.
I'd be curious to know what they gave her if she traded it in.
In this video the man says the dealers charge about $5,000.00 to replace the hybrid battery and they only do 1 battery replacement per month for a service center with 6,000 cars worked on per month. he doesn't seem to be aware that independent repair shops charge anywhere from $1,500.00 to $2,500.00 max depending if you get a remanufactured battery or an OEM.
This is excellent content, not enough is said about the high level of Toyota Hybrid technology, reliability and low cost of battery replacement.
Funny how there is hardly any 1st or 2nd gen Prius on the road.
Batteries is just one factor able to kill ownership feasibility.
High levels of electronics in them and newer vehicles is killing long term ownership.
Different gen hybrid = incompatible batteries means the price of batteries will never be affordable since the supply will always be limited s nd the demand only increasing the longer you hold on your hybrid.
Confirmation is videos on TH-cam showing cost of battery replacements being non commensurate to the market value and DIY being impossible means financial/economic termination.
ICE vehicles current and 10, 20, 30 years ago is powered by the same fuel and no compatibility issues.
As far engines, they are economically replaceable and simple enough to be economically rebuildable DIY.
Those points are very true although I think that people are getting away from the DYI mindset, more and more people are opting for prepaid maintenance and extended warranties, it’s not like when I grew up, we would do all the maintenance on our vehicles. Today it’s very difficult with the way cars and trucks are designed. They are full of tech, heck even the dealers can’t figure them out.
@@seeker10280 @seeker10280 When you look at the tech and industry many are there to be barriers to repairs including withholding information, electronic gate keepers and limiting tool availability, over priced tools and locking out 3rd parties to keep tools and information restricted.
Warranty dependence is part of the manufacturers plan.
People lose sight, ability and motivation to fix and extend the life of the product. Disposable mentality is what they want.
What you described as a change of culture and mind set is exactly the result manufacturers were aiming for.
Plus the Security of and fear mongering being out of warranty and unable to fix or sell.
They want a culture of new purchases only like in mobile phones with artificial obsolescence of no longer being updated softwares, intentional dash lights being tripped to be annoying and push to upgrade etc
When people are warranty dependent the length of the warranty can be reduced (people accustomed as normal and no choice) with manufacturers having a captive customer base.
It is all about maximising and controlling consumption hence the fight to "Right to Repair" bill being targeted by manufacturers.
This was a good informative video
Thanks so much for the info from the Toyota owner
Hello there!
Thank you very much for the useful video! I'm not very familiar with the hybrid cars and honestly wasn't really interested in them until recently. I have fully committed myself to EVs, and began to think about converting retro (and not so old) ICE cars.
However after watching your video and a few others I began to think it makes sense to include in this group for conversion hybrid cars too. They are after all half electric to put it this way. For example Toyota/Lexus have some models which have powerful enough electric motors to move the car on electricity only, in this case is it possible to remove the ICE from the car and use it as electric only? Of Course battery capacity has to be increased and few other changes to be done.
My question is does it make sense for this conversion and if it does, could you please point which models are the best candidates?
Regards,
Thanks!
Lol, our local shop did it for $1300 and less than an hour.
Interesting, I had the hybrid battery replaced on my 2012 Toyota Camry in about an hour in 2019. Still going strong now.. Reconditioned for $1,300 here in Chicago. Yet he says that it takes 5 hours.
Excellent informative video, many thanks.
I replaced my 2012 Prius with brand new battery with warranty from Floria for $999. Watched TH-cam and Florida company helped me in install over the phone.
Thank you so much for this, I just went from a 2006 Prius (yes the whole hybrid battery had been replaced 2014) to a 2023 Corolla Hybrid and while I felt like an expert on the Gen 2 battery, I do have a bit of a learning curve on the new batteries. Being able to get this info is so helpful for making sure I save back for future costs.
I have a 2011 Prius, 250,000 miles on it and, knock on wood, haven’t had to replace the hybrid battery yet. Hoping the time won’t come in the next year or two, but looking at what vehicle I want next …not sure if hybrid is the route to take. I did need to replace the head gaskets about 10 months ago…that was expensive too!
Head gasket?? That’s a new one! Did they say how / why it went out??
the guy is right toyota does make good cars i have a 003 cam with 174000 miles and still going strong
They make the best, that is why they have the lowest inventory of any brand. People want reliability, especially after paying $40k for a car.
Very straightforward answer
Interesting, but how much you paid for the final disposition of their old batteries?
I drive a 3rd Gen 2014 Prius at 244,000 miles still running great with og battery. It did start consuming oil around 120k miles. Also had to replace entire fuel liner and pump at 200k miles. As well as replace 3 ignition coils that exploded 2 seperate times. Only replaced brake pads once and they are still good. 40 to 50 mpg daily. Taken it on several road trips and left car running overnight a couple of times
Get your priust out the way coming through
@@mattmatt6572 hopefully your car can exceed 200k miles
@@chroylikesfish it's a Toyota not hybrid so prolly be good for 500k
@@chroylikesfish My 05 Prius is currently at 489,000 miles.
What do you mean by 'left the car running overnight'?
Nicely done gentlemen.
He has been trained well. When asked how much battery replacement is talk about how reliable they are and do not tell them how much it costs to replace the battery. 😂😂
There’s plenty of good independent shops knowledgeable in hybrid technology and a hell of a lot cheaper! Make sure shop is ASE certified with hybrid! Dealers labor is in ball park of $160 hr
Exactly. In the SF Bay Area here there are so many independent specialists shop who can do this. Do keep in mind that his is dealer labor price and dealer part price, they are much higher.
Rape and pillage is the dealer Matra and their end of time?@@jml9550
My niece had her Toyota hybrid battery repaired, bad cells replaced, and its like new now for less than thousand as the battery has replaceable cells.
Great video… with very useful information.
Dear Jeff!! Great to see you in this channel as well!!
Thank you so much for this amazing informative video!
I’ve bought an AGM Interstate H5 (47) battery for my 2018 Camry Hybrid LE. The car is 5yr 3mo old and with 159K miles. After jumpstarting a few times the original battery in this cold New York City weather I’ve decided to get this new 12V battery. Also I’ve already bought the emergency memory saver OBD 2 Kit from Amazon which I’m planning to hook up with my Tacklife T6 jump-starter that has a cigarette lighter port outlet. Is there anything else I need remember to do?
Somebody mentioned in a different article that there is a temperature sensor in the OEM battery that needs to be taken off and put with adhesive on the new battery which I’m not so clear about. Will be waiting for your response.
Thank you again 🙏.
Great Video Jeff! Everyone was wondering how much and how long these hybrid batteries 🔋 would cost & last. Helps everyone truly make a decision for their money 💰 long term…
You can spend only two minutes by googling this info instead of watching an entire YT video with commercials.
Those of us that have bought all know this article is not entirely correct. Batteries are warranted for 150,000 miles plus. My neighbour had a Ford F150 drop the tranny after warranty expired and it cost him 8 grand. Lets talk about that.
the youtube vid is BS ... they are assuming is lithium batteries in these and its not it NiMh batteries which toyota have and will run in the all hybrid models as they are better in cold and are smaller and lighter
@@yxxtoweri agree! The toyota guy does not discuss the BAD PART and horrors 😂😂😂
5 hours???? And mine was replaced in 45 minutes. And I was on my way.
How much did it cost?
they charge 5 hr time labor
@@lunam7249 maybe at your garage....... we as a dealer dont
@@vandamonium1731 dont what? as dealer you dont replace batts? or fix batts?
@@lunam7249 charge a minimum 5 hours.. the manufacturer pays the labour on replacement warranty batteries 🤣
Great info. Thanks guys.
When I buy a new car I purchase the manufacture extended warranty. I never keep any vehicle past warranty. After warranty is finished the vehicle tends to drop in value by a large amount. Even though battery prices are coming down, they are still fairly expensive to replace.
True. Lease is the best option
Having dealer replace battery is nuts - I’ve looked up multiple companies that do replace them for brand new packs for under $3k installed mobile for 2014 Camry hybrid
they not brand new refurbished
@@hao6097 I upgraded my NiMH 2013 Camry hybrid battery to LiFe4Po technology with new lighter more efficient cells for $2700.
The dark underbelly of the hybrid market is the battery replacement cost. I can understand why this dealer doesn't see many hybrid battery replacements. Spending $5000 on a battery for a 10-12 year old vehicle doesn't make financial sense. Those people are going the aftermarket battery route. The hybrid battery in my 2010 Prius died at 165K miles. Battery failure is a lot more common than this dealer employee admits. Given that, I'd still buy a newer Prius, but I'd sell it before it got to the 150K mark.
If you sell it before replacing the batteries, your asking price gonna take a beating. Bad. Everyone gonna ask, if you had replaced them or not
Think of the poor EV owners when it becomes their turn to replace a battery?!… and their turn is gonna come a lot sooner too.
@@lukeclifton4392that's different. With EV you don't have to deal with oil, filter, radiator, muffler, etc associated with ICE or hybrid engines. That's already saving you money
Sell it to an uninformed person that thinks they are getting a great car. That's nice of you and stick them with the problem.
@@door2416 It's always on the buyer to do their research.
Hybrids first came out with a 100,000 mile warranty on the battery, which, of course, was misinterpreted to mean that the battery would definitely die at 100,000 miles. Back then, a new unit from the factory installed at a dealer was the only option and was very expensive if not covered under warranty. In the meantime, hybrid batteries have proven to have long service lives and the large number of aging hybrids has brought about many independent aftermarket companies that will rebuild or replace hybrid batteries for far less than what used to be the dealer price. There's a bunch of stuff on every car that can easily cost more to repair or replace than a Prius battery.
Good to know. Wondering how one would fare in a very hot Texas summer and autumn, cause temps here remain high even into November sometimes.
I just bought a 2023 Rav4 Prime SE last July. Assuming I live long enough, and am still driving, 10~15 years from now, I'm wondering what replacing that 18 kW-hr battery might cost.
I really love this car. It's my first Rav4. I've owned several other Toyotas in the last 40 years: A '78 Corolla, an '80 Tercel, an '84 Pickup (this was from the era before they were called "Tacoma"), a 2007 Yaris, a '19 Prius Prime, and now my Rav4 Prime. And this Rav outshines all of it's predecessors for versatility. The gasoline fuel economy is 20 mpg less than what I was getting with my Prius Prime, but the EV range is 20 miles more, and the Rav has a lot more carrying capacity, so it's a worthwhile trade. The Rav4 Hybrid and Prime are arguably the best overall cars that Toyota has ever offered for sale in the US and Canada.
I have Mercedes Benz E350e hybrid with 6.5 KW hybrid battery that i have noticed significant electrical range decrease.
Appreciate your advice on the best option to replace from, estimated cost.
Do you live in the northern states? I hear they do better in warm weather.
@@tmo4330
I live in Egypt, warm weather.
Not happy about the actual battery range nor the cost to replace.
My 2013 Prius at 281000 miles on and still the original battery.
There’s two packages from a local hybrid battery manufacturer
1)cost you 800 for 60’000 miles with one year guarantee.
2)1650 bucks for 100’000 miles with warranty.
Any tips on what to do or not do? Maybe you can edit your original message on your driving habits and with it, tips on maintenance. Thanks
@@raymondpoh do fully synthetic oil every 5k miles.
Change the engine and cabin filter around 25k miles.
Transmission fluid change around 40k miles.
Don’t drive harsh
@@amjadpervaiz4453Or even more often. Special care with the hybrid battery filter - clean it at least each 5k miles.
@@codincoman9019 exactly
@@codincoman9019 Especially if your dog goes for rides very often!
Thank you for confirming that I will never recommend or buy a hybrid. The cost is crazy and the savings to the enviroment is non-existence.
Great video. Thank you!
On my Toyota 2009 Prius 140,000 miles, the battery and the control computer died. Total was $6,700.00. $300.00 for the 12 volt battery
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F*CKING $H1T MANG!😮
Was your Prius still completely driveable in full gasoline mode when this happened?
@@alsheremeta Hybrids do not have starter motors, depend on battery driven electric motor to provide starting torque needed for initial internal combustion engine start up.
2009 was the second gen batteries, they were not quite as good as the 3rd gen and later. You probably could have had that done much cheaper, with an independent shop.
My family have 7 Toyotas. Two 4unner were bought this year. We try to collect gas cars before they become turbo or hybrid. If you want a Toyota that can last long, go buy a gas engine one before they disappear. Dont buy complicate hybrid system or turbo engine Toyota.
what could go wrong, a turbo engine and a hybrid system, no thanks
I wonder if you can reconfigure a hybrid system to run as a conventional automobile ?
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP 😊❤
$7,500 for a Tundra battery! Tells me I made the right decision going with the 2023 Tundra without the hybrid. It has more power than I need and I just towed a large John Deere Gator on a double axial trailer for the first time and the truck never felt like it had a load on it. The hybrid does not get you better gas mileage only a lot more torque and a slight increase in HP. If you need more torque then nothing beats a diesel.
um you do realise theres a 15 year warranty on the toyota battery?
And, the hybrid not only gives added torque, it definitely increases mpg.
Any money you may save driving a hybrid via fuel goes right out the window when you have to replace this battery at 150,000 miles.
Your not saving any money it costs you $10,000 more. Higher tax, license, interest rate.
Extremely low resale value.
Take you over 20years to break even and that's if you don't have any problems.
Some customers had many problems if that's the case your losses will be sky high.
2 Battery to go techs did a '09 HH in 45 min in my driveway.
Whole thing was donated, sonce other unknown bugs in charging or ABS killed two batteries.
Cost to repair exceeded value of very well maintained, excellent vehicle.
Avoid out of warranty hybrids.
Very good video, thanks.
07 Camry Hybrid here … 250k miles and counting. The real shocker is the factory original 12v battery is still going strong.
The Panasonic 12v AGM batteries are absolutely fantastic. The batter in my 2012 Camry hybrid still has a full charge based on voltage. Amazing! Other brands of AGM batteries like Optima have been ‘reversed engineered’ to fail after 5-6 years or less, just like conventional 12v batteries. Optima is really crap.
I had to get my 2008 Camry hybrid battery replaced in Canada at 230K Kms. I paid about $4600 for a new OEM battery pack and labor from Toyota dealership. Hopefully that lasts me another 5 years and 100K Kms, that will be worth it I guess.
Wild! Thanks for the information ! Hope mine last as long as yours! Cheers!
2007 Camry Hybrid self-replaced battery at 120k - $2400 (from Nextcell) - takes about 2 hours. Also, it has 4x the capacity at 1/2 of the weight. It's on 2nd year now - no issues.
Must clarify.. it takes me 2 hours.. probably will take a whole day for nubie.. also, MANY precausions must followed to the dot.. or you die.. or something shorts.. 🧨..
People do not understand how much of the difference "capacity" makes - it's huge! It's not like you get a new car - it'a like getting a different, new car! With higher capacity Camry has much easier time shoving all this energy into the battery, and when running in EV mode, it has much more to take - it could easily do 20-30 minutes before turning the motor. Btw, it's direct replacement, no reprogramming needed.
Must clarify again, 20-30 min in EV mode is when battery is fully charged and you are parked and or not going fast (like sitting in stop and go traffic) - because, as you know, as soon as you step on accelerator even a bit - it'll turn the engine on. Still, it's way better then 1-2 minutes the old battery used to do.
Fascinating!
Auris hybrid 2010 , 260k miles and the battery is ready to go for replacement. Not fault shown yet but pending, and it will need a new one soon. Around £2000 in UK
After 11 years and 120k miles, I have had few issues with my 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid. I have replaced wheel-speed sensors under warranty, one set of brake pads, and one 12-volt battery, and I am on my third set of tires.
I have 15 years and 190K miles on my 2008 Camry Hybrid. Same battery!!
Should trade that and buy a real car a kia or hyundai. just kidding.
At what mileage did you replace brake pads, approximately ?
I still have original brake pads!!@@dmitripogosian5084
No!!@@codincoman9019
You should talk about how the battery packs are sensitive to extreme cold and heat. Lithium ion batteries have issues
Keep your hybrid. Ill take a na engine that gets 35 on highway anyday
They are sensitive to bumps and bruises also
@@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926right on😂
THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS FOR BATTERY REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT. I'VE REBUILT SEVERAL GEN 1 PRIUSES, AND WELL WORTH THE COST. TOP OF THE LINE USED BATTERY ABOUT 3K WITH 3 YEAR WARRANTY. lOVE THE TOYOTA PRIUS!
2012 Prius, 126k miles, dead battery warning. Dealer wants 4k to replace. Checking with local shop tomorrow to see if they can replace cheaper. Won't get another hybrid because of this. Before the Prius I had a 1998 Camry with 250k miles on it. No major issues or repairs.
Good because I'm nearing 100k miles on my Rav4 Hybrid and I'm dreading it
Ive got 200k on my Lexus RX400h... Same battery from new... You will be fine.
My 2007 Lexus RX 400h battery is still rolling at almost 189,000 miles. We have only had it for 2 and a half years, but no trouble. Hopefully we'll get many more miles of service out of this battery before it needs to be replaced.
Wow! No hybrid battery replacement for 16 years?!? I have only 4 years on mine and I was mentally prepared to change the hybrid battery after another 6 years (10 years since the purchase)...
I have a 2006 Lexus RX400h and have had no problem at all with the battery either. I've never had an analysis done on the power left in the battery but I assume its good since I seem to be averaging (according to the computer) around 26/27 mpg. On one trip last year I actually got to 29.9 and I was trying my best to nudge it to 30 mpg but just couldn't quite make it! I love this car. People can't believe how good it still looks inside and out. Good luck with yours!
@@deirdre108not being a wise guy but... 26 mpg?? That's not so good.
My '17 F150 with a 5.0 V8 gets 21 to 22 combined. That's calculated at the pump btw.
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712I was actually surprised it got this good of mpg considering the weight of the car-around 4500 lbs. Also I live in Washington State and do a lot of uphill and over the mountain passes travel.
Also maybe the difference of 11 years between our vehicles is a factor. I’m sure the technology improved over that time to realize more mpg.
Those are some possibilities that might explain the difference in mpg.
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712u are comparing a car 11 years older. U have no clue how much the car industry has improved on their tech? U are comparing apples to oranges.
Hi, Is there a way to find out if a 2007 Highlander Hybrid w/ 250K miles on it has had the battery replaced, or if there is a way to check the health and future longevity of the hybrid battery on it?
Also, if it becomes necessary, is there a benefit to rebuilding the hybrid battery over replacing it? Should genuine Toyota parts be used, or would aftermarket components suffice?
I have a question on my RAV4 LE I have corrosion starting above the roof. I am the first one to have this. I took it to the dealership and they haven’t seen it like this either so I took it to service. I told me to take it down to collision Toyota on 34th St. they took pictures of it and see if they will cover it or not but I have never seen it like this before the corrosion starting on top of the roof no little rust spot starts to build up .
I own a 2010 Toyota Auris with a normal Prius hybrid driveline with only 60.000 miles. The battery is just fine, so nothing to worry about for now. Here, I can even buy a refurbished Hybrid battery for € 650,- or a new battery for € 1800,-. The battery in my car is also stored behind the rear seat in the trunk, so you have only remove the backrest and some panels to reach it.
There are MANY independent companies that will replace your hybrid battery wherever you are (home) in an hour for $1000 with warranty. Your hybrid will run like new.
Yeah but just keep in mind, the replacement batteries these companies provide are refurbished battery packs which means in those battery packs, they only replace the cells that are completely worn out and not ALL the cells. So your “new” battery back will still have some cells that are old in use, but still have some life left to them.
@k_c1429 i can get a replacement traction battery with ALL NEW CELLS for 1700 installed. Prices have gone up a little bit since i last checked a few years back. But it also has a warranty in case there are problems with the replacement
Greed at the dealer level will put them out of business especially if the dealer uses the TEAM SYSTEM where you have one knowledgeable Tech and 2 or 3 helpers that need constant baby sitters and only make 10 or 12 dollars an hour where as the customer is paying $150.00 an hour???
I would like to know why there are so many holes in the underside of that bonnet.🤷♂️
1000 to 2000 dollars buys a lot of gas.
2022 toyota hybrid 61k miles so far hope i get another 4 or 5 years out of this battery @20k+ miles per year
Hi from Australia. Have owned and run three generations of Prius, Honda CRZ and Mazda 3 mild hybrid over the last twenty years. Still have a gen 4 Prius(coming up to seven years) taken delivery of another CRZ. Apart from regular servicing only replaced a12 volt battery and a set of tyres. Also had to replace the 12 volt battery on the CRZ ( normal every 2-3 years). I have never seen any deterioration in the large high voltage battery in any of the cars. 100% reliable with no mechanical or electrical issues. Probably lack of use is worse for them or use a trickle charger to maintain the 12 volt battery health. The nonsense about expensive replacement of the high voltage is overblown. Don’t be lazy on servicing and do it every six months (or 6000 miles) they won’t let you down. Cheers
It's seems like the more you drive it the better bc I've never had problems with the battery until I started driving less and due to cold weather!! I'm in a 2015 Camry xle hybrid..no other problems.regular oil changes and brakes.Im at 204k miles! went to have battery and charging system checked, and both said good! So in freezing temperatures, I'll be starting in the middle of the night and driving around the block.I wouldn't recommend a hybrid for snowy states bc I'm in Ga! Ive had it since 2015 and its been riding like a champ 🏆 I love my hybrid...im just wondering does it have two battery systems? The only one i see is the 12v in the trunk...Im guessing theres another under the hood?
The inverter/converter / power control unit resides under the hood - bright orange cables terminate there. The hybrid (traction) battery itself lives under the rear seat on a '15 Camry, I believe.
I own a 09 Camry Hybrid with the original hybrid battery with 407000 km and still has 90 percent capacity...
200k on my 07 Lexus hybrid... OEM traction battery, still going strong.
@@1jzMKIII toyota and Lexus are he very best...
Hi Martin. Where did you obtain the 90% capacity figure from? Was that info supplied as part of the dealership 'Hybrid Health Check'? Thanks.
Seems to be some confusion between full hybrids and plug-in hybrids where some just call em' "hybrids". To me apples and oranges... Plug-ins seem to get very good milage if used as commuter say 20-40 miles a day (depending on whether you can charge at home and at work or not).
But if it turns out to be a good economical deal won't be clear until you sell it... How many would dare to buy a 10 year old Rav4 plug- in say 2030? Will there even be a new battery of the right type to buy at that time if you need to swap?
A friend of mine has a Yaris Cross hybrid.
The little 12volt start battery cost $700 (Au) to replace! And it's set up so you can only buy genuine.
I just bought a Corolla cross hybrid XSE today and I love it 😂
Got a Rav4 hybrid last week. In love with it also
Got my wife a 2024 Lexus NX350H and loves it. Not having to gas up every 5-6 weeks and I love it.
I'm trying to make up my mind between the Corolla Cross hybrid and a RAV4 LE hybrid which is only a few thousand more. Why did you go with the Corolla?
@@alsheremeta to be honest- I just got it because it was the only hybrid AWD SUV and it had TSS 3.0 😂
the little bit of mileage advantage of prius definitely not cost effective as compared to the 2 or 3 hundred thousand miles say a corolla engines get before major repairs...heck, you can buy a low mileage used corolla for far less than a battery replacement
200k on my 07 Lexus hybrid, OEM traction battery... still going, no major repairs... ICE version is about 10mpg less... so its cost effective for sure.
@@1jzMKIIIwait for the time bomb😂
@@rexonpadre864 been waiting for years... The car owes me nothing.
Just curious if there have been a lot of repairs on the RAV4 Hybrid High Voltage connector and cable replacements?
That power cable harness costs $7,500.00 to replace and isn’t covered under warranty. If you live in the snow belt, don’t buy a RAV4 hybrid! 💸💸💸 FJB 🖕🇨🇳
I have changed the big battery on my Prius. There are companies that make replacement batteries. Mine cost $1100 and it had a 100k mile warrantee. I replaced mine in three hours. There are air filters for the cooling fans. Keep them clean. My first battery lasted 160k miles
How does that work for a vehicle a straight man might drive? Someone who never ate tofu or drank decaf coffee. A man who owns tools and uses them regularly. A man who made his way in life with no one’s help or sympathy. A man who can do productive things that help his community…..something he might drive. 😂
I plan to avoid Hybrids since there’s no cost savings in the long run.
i thought the same but my hybrid is better than my diesel on a run
Corolla hybrids get 55mpg. How is that not saving?
@@DannyManteca considering the extra $1000’s Of dollars on the sticker price plus much higher repair cost if you plan to keep it for a long time you’re not saving any money.
@billbradley2480 jury's still out. I keep reading reviews from actual owners. They insist they love them. I'm on the outside looking in as a potential owner.
Thanks Jeff. This clip made me make up my mind. I’m going with ICE Cross. The added cost of hybrid and battery replacement doesn’t cover gas. 5k for battery of early gens is more than half of car value
Yup. Most people forgot that the money saved on hybrid is actually going for the new battery, not going into their pocket. On top of that having 2 engines means still have to maintain the ICE engine just like regular cars (oil, filter, radiator, etc).
Whereas having regular economical cars with smaller engine can still give you 30mpg at least, it's money you save.
Better skip the hybrid and jump to EV directly when the time is right.
The lithium batteries are not the answer to make EV's or Hybrids a viable option in the long run battery degradation starts from day one.
@@shadowbanned5164 Stop spewing FUD about EVs. Tesla batteries degrade 8% per 200k miles and their EVs last 2x-3x longer than ICE. You can degrade the batteries faster by using DC fast charging more often, though most EV owners slow charge at home at night ~90% of the time. Also some types of batteries degrade if you overcharge them beyond the 80%-90% recommendations or discharge them to 0%. And, driving an EV frequently in extreme temperatures can impact degradation as well. Just Google it to verify what I am saying rather than listening to FUD.
@@shadowbanned5164 The degradation is so low it is about the same cost wise as replacing an engine, probably less.
@@moorefacts6605 Bro....replacing an engine???....Im driving a car thats 60 years old and still running the original motor what kind of car needs an engine replacement?
2008 Prius, 200k miles no battery replacement needed so far. I only seeing 44mpg now but mostly because I’m doing 70-80 on interstates.
We almost bought a used Prius. I think it was a 2010. Glad we didn't if we would have needed to put a $7k battery in it at some point. The owners didn't answer me when I asked if it sat for a while. We also found that it was in an accident but they didn't share that info with us.
I had a friend who put a refurbished battery in a Prius. All the modules don't fail. It was practical to replace the bad cells for a minimal price. I think we'll see many shops that specialize in this. I'll follow, when it's the frugal choice I'll know.
I had a coworker who's 2nd gen Prius went into limp mode at 140k miles. The owner always had Toyota do the maintenance on it. The car was 6 or 7 years old when it had this problem. I suspect it was a fan or filter problem causing the batteries to heat up that put it into limp mode . A clogged filter under the back seat is a very common cause of this problem. The Toyota dealership said it was bad batteries and charged my coworker 4,000 dollars to install a new battery pack.
Sounds like hybrids are disposable. Nice to know not to go electric or hybrid.
Obviously, most people won't do it, but go find TH-camr Chris Fix and his Prius Battery fix and replacement. If you aren't scared. If you know categorically it's the battery pack. If you have the time to take your time, it looks doable. But, that's a lot of ifs.
There are codes for the temperature sensors FWIW...
I’m worried of any gas emission from the battery chemicals that will leak inside the car
We love our 2024 Highlander!!!! Love Toyota! Our 7th