How to Make the Ultimate Sleeper Honda Civic
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What does it take to turn the least-powerful Honda Civic into an 11-second car? A motivated owner and a lot of broken engines.
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Love this guy’s cars, been following him on IG since y’all did his all motor 8th gen Si
I knew the dude looked familiar!
I was just checking the comments to see if it was the same owner.
What's his IG
Not a “Honda guy” but this is rad. Anything short of the Type R is slept on anymore so to have a 1.5T sleeper like this is pretty sick. And 7800rpm redline? That’s gotta be fun!
This is why if you see any civic/accord turbo that has ANY hint of mods (wheels, jdm badges, etc) its probably tuned past factory by a lot. I know my accord looks barely OEM+ but with a ktuner stage 2 with ZERO mods it can gain up to 80lbft down low with well over 300hp top end.
How much horsepower does this car their in on this video have???
Ill start by saying this is a really cool build. Eman is a pioneer in the 10th gen civic space. You can tell this car wasn't built to be a track car. Its built for when a stock scatpack comes next to him on the highway. Also, what Eman didn't mention is that the original motor / setup was probably seeing close to 300lb/ft of trq with the e30 tune. All that low end torque on the stock rods turned them into spaghetti noodles. Plenty of us 1.5t guys have been running this setup for years now without catastrophic failure. Its all about managing that torque curve with proper tuning. It took setups like this to figure that out though. Thanks for blowing you motor up to save mine. Cheers!
Yes very valid and well put point. The tq on the stock small turbos kills these engines fast with mods and ethanol
Facts, but I still managed to blow my motor up during the pandemic, so I had to wait almost two years to get all the parts to complete my FC3 street & track build. Don't forget about our transmissions; once you get to about 350 to 400lb/ft with an upgraded clutch, your stock transmission is toast, starting from the 1st to the 4th, somehow leaving the 3rd, 5th, and 6th gear untouched.
RE: the rods - it's actually all 1.5t except the hatch that have the stronger Si rods (at least in the US). Base model sedan and coupe have the L15B7 which has Si rods, hatch is built in Swindon UK and has the L15BA with weaker rods. I guess it's a supply chain thing.
Correct but the pistons in base 1.5 non si are also substantially weaker.
@@k20z3allmotorFTW wait...I just realized you're the source of this knowledge LOL
@@spoopithys I could’ve went further on the info in the video but that would be a 10 min rant 😅
@@k20z3allmotorFTWwell, go on! Plenty here would love to watch that
@@k20z3allmotorFTW DO IT
The owner likely has at least Typer R money in this but the appeal of the sleeper aspect is undeniable. Great job!
I think I would rather have this sleeper, than Type-R. The CTR draws too much unwanted attention.
@@doubledown8229 me too!
He probably could have just bought the type r and swapped body panels....would have been cheaper
@@XeroFailGames Exactly, debadge, take the spoiler off, put some 18" wheels, put some black seat covers...
There you go. You got yourself a sleeper Type R. and one more thing, the whole front suspension design is unique on the Type R.
If you were willing to spend that much money and efforts to turn a regular Civic to a sleeper, it's easier to turn a Type R to a sleeper with less money and efforts, then you have a better car at the end...
being fast > looking fast
EMAN is a legend. Just a tune on my '19 Si is enough fun for me, add some Type R OEM parts like the rear engine mount, sway bar and shifter and it's the perfect daily and enough fun on the weekends.
as an 2018 accord 2.0t 6spd owner, this is beautiful! good stuff
This is an awesome video… Zach totally looks and feels naturally enjoying this one. What a great little gem of a Civic
Going thru the mod bug with my Si. THe second you slap a CAI and a tune on it, its like a constant shot of dopamine, even under the speed limit. So fun and peppy....and comfy!
Eman with the info, love it bro. One of the best Honda people out there
I really like that the owner didn't rice it out with red Honda badges and a CTR wing.
The hood looks like it might be from the CTR but it kinda fits with the sleeper hints.
This gen doesn't get the love it should.
Because the K20s and K24s are superior engines period. Not only that but the port injection motors don’t get the issues that the direct injected ones do, and you get a better sounding engine too.
* 7th Gens has entered in the chat
@@kengvang1330 I have an ep3 and I have no doubt that after people realize they're all gone and you can't find one that hasn't been absolutely backed up that people will finally want one. There's nothing that looks like one or offers what it has even in spite of it's performance deficiencies.
No shit because it's ugly as fuck.
Are you kidding me the 10th generation 1.5L is a complete joke, I had put alone 8k worth of mods and supporting mods just to make 250wheel and still blew up on me twice. Only good thing about the car was the chassis
I loved my 2017 2.0l non turbo 6 speed sedan. Was lighter than the si coupes, and after springs, shifter stabilizer, exhaust and intake was still slow but a great daily with some side hill action time to time, $19,000 back in 2017. Great video my dude.
Best styled hatchback ever !! Mr Hall was the designer of the car great job !!!!
Best in the game! Emmanuel is the OG with tunning these cars.
Both had a wide open smile all the way, brilliant stufff!
Super sketchy, dangerous, fast builds are a cornerstone of the Honda community.
Love it! 😆 🤣
Awesome video and build
I totally read that as an 11 second 0-60 haha. This thing is a beast! 🚗
I love how the video has been edited in a way that at time stamp 7:13 it seems as if there's a car going in reverse on the road :D. Amazing car and Emanuel seems to be a really cool guy too.
I kind of love that he did this even though I don't understand it.
10 second quarter mile at 138 is batshit insane for an fk8
That's a fk7 with a fk8 muffler
Yo, I SAVED the last video with Emanuel! I watch it like 2x per month. Haha His motors are amazing!!
Also an isf owner 🎉 wonder who this mystery owner is very nice build and video😂
The LX sedan’s traction control and power delivery in turns is probably my biggest complaint. Crazy how well this civic performs with a performance traction control and the Si LSD.
This thing is rad, wow
Eman always amazing with his builds, people hate cause they cant handle the truth on what really makes power
Whats the truth? That you'll go through two engines and it needs to be built twice?
Caught that too....curious how long the first custom engine build lasted, at how many miles and how much cost? Fortunately for shops and builders, there are people who don't mind paying the price to be first.
He was spot on with the weight btw 2800 and some change btw!!
btw btw!!
I’m not that into Hondas but I’m starting to since engine replaced in my Honda 8gen coupe manual whats a great Honda to build cheap man after this video I love these Hondas they growing I was really sleeping on these years I wanted to get a si but these new ones with turbos making it seem to easy
I was on the fence about getting a 2018 Sport hatch, ended up getting an 18 Fiesta ST instead. Absolutely love that car and what I've done to and with it, but the Civic hatch does have a bit of a soft spot in my heart
I really loved my blue 2017 sport hatch, but I think you ended up with the more fun car overall :). For a commuter/manual, it was quite nice but not as raucous or rowdy.
We're in the same boat lol. 18 Fiesta ST, and knowing what guys are doing with our little 1.6s, this whole process sounds insane. I know plenty of guys with plenty of miles of 300-350whp Fiestas on an unopened engine, just big turbo, port injection, E85 and some supporting mods that are essentially just stage 2/3 bolt ons. And the Fiestas handle so well stock, and especially with just upgraded struts and springs. I think we made the right choice, even if they are ford products 😂
By the way happy my boy Nathan put that MoTeC to work and happy how the car came out. Nathan shout out to you as well!!!!!
His car has come a long way
Need more info on the lifted Ridgeline seen at the end of the video!
That white HPD Ridgeline in the background though...
The fact that it’s newer makes it an even better sleeper in the Honda world
I wish someone was able to put the type r lsd on the accord 2.0t 10 speed!
E-man is the goat.
Need this drivetrain swapped into my Element
I'm conflicted, love the sleeper concept, love the swapping in better transmission/shifter along with engine mods, and he seems like a nice/chill/smart guy, but not sure why he would put on bolt-ons that were going to bend some rods in the first place. Was that a legit learning experience, or was he like, "well, we could do what you're asking, but you should upgrade the rods too." And then the customer was like, "Nope, lets see how it goes with the stock ones?" I guess my dream build would be a 2017 Accord with Type R shifter and 300-ish hp. Wonder how much that would cost?
So back in 2017 no one knew how weak the rods actually where everything was still rather new back then
Hell yeah! This guys local to me in Ventura, he did some work on my old Honda Fit and my buddy’s FK8, he’s good stuff!
Hey what did you do to your Fit?
@@ranchofitge8 under my ownership I did lowering springs, Progress Rear Sway Bar, SBC RPF1 RS with Federal RS-RR (good budget tire at the time) JDM rear tail lights, Hybrid Racing short shifter, Nissin Pads with Brembo rotors. And camber bolts. Pretty basic setup
@@jorgeizDShiznit no engine mods?
@@ranchofitge8 k&n drop in filter and valve adjustments made it feel alittle faster 😂 but no. My plan was the K swap it but I ended up selling it to buy a 4Runner for the family
@@jorgeizDShiznit yeah I feel it on the swap. Wanted to swap it but for the money I'd rather buy a tsx next
Great video it is a sleeper
@7:13 that dude can drive!
That is some poor canyon etiquette, however.
It’s an old hack to roll back the mileage on the cluster.
A turbo d series was nice back in the day now Honda basically give you one from the factory and it doesn’t get the love it should
That 1.5l is a bad joke
@@muffcabbage9742 I feel like he has a point... L15 comes factory turbo, magic mpg, reliable when stock. Obviously lacking compared to the K engines, but the D series was very similar, always lacking the character and mod-ability of B series.
7:12 Now we know how you get that much B-Roll lmao. Just play it forwards AND backwards.
Tryna do this to my civic hatchback sport manual 2018
This thing is nuts, and I own a FK7
OMG!!
I want him to take my Honda and do something crazy to it too!!!! 😫
What parts were used to build the engine or was it a bought stouter block ?
Time traveling back in time @7:15 into the vid. 😮 😂
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When does turbo kick in on my 2020 civic 1.5?
Great video love it💯🫡
So, can you swap a CVT to a manual? If so, how much that usually run?
If I didn't own the CVT version of this car, I would really look into trying to push at least above 200hp from the stock 180 because it looks really fun
Get a ktuner and Phearable 1.5R tune, safer low torque down low and plenty of top end, feels great
@@Tac_3403 Ayy appreciate it, I'll look into that. Since mine is that last year FK7, it's still under warranty but at the same time i'm really impatient lol. Knowing there's a safe option that won't cause the CVT to slip and the motor to commit unalive really helps
@Moatiz ive been tuned 60k with brake boosting and normal maintenance no issues so far. check my videos, you'll love that tune. still fun to drive especially with minor boltons and suspension work
@@alexl.102 appreciate it
I have a 19 cvt hatch sport. Been running 21psi tune for over 50k kms on all stock parts. Just have to keep up with maintenance and use the best fuel available. Also a good technique is to always roll into the throttle when tuned, flooring it really loads up the transmission.
You forgot to mention that car has a Motec System Exhaust
What’s the difference between the 2018 si and hfp si
Eman - The Man,The Myth, The Legend…
It’s ridiculous and I love it
Is that an L15 motor?
7:13 The Explorer going backwards?!!? 😱
Wonder why the guy decided to blow his engine to be the first built base 1.5, there w The finished build is amazing and he deserves his bragging rights for this.
At 7:12 van is driving in reverse 🤣
What fitment bro running??
I would love to see a j series in a 10th gen
I love Subarus but he's right Honda Gang!
he did it the right way build up the motor running it stock forget it
10th Gen gang where y’all at? 2020 Si Coupe here
this thing is wild lol
I want him to build my 11th gen si so bad
The real gem is finding a manual 10gen civic.
Now this is interesting.
What I’ve learned from this video is that I want to meet Nate
How have yall been dealing with the oil dilution on L15s? Also do the 11th gens have weaker rods on the L15 LCA?
My oil always smells like gas 2020 civic si on pherable stage 1 only. 3k oil change is the key and alot of people who track run ticker oil but I dont so idk how that works for them
Stop using 0-20
Don't use 0 - 20 also the new and old gen have the same rod thickness just different lengths if I remember correctly
@@k20z3allmotorFTWwhat should be used instead of 0-20?
@@bim1376 5-30. And try not to do short drives where the oil can’t get up to temperature. Needs the Italian tune-up to burn off water droplets in the oil. 😅
When he said Emmanuel I thought he was saying “it’s a manual” 🤣
I don’t care what nobody says that car is fucking awesome!!!
SI 10th gen 10.3:1 compression
Omg the gravel is killing me
wowzas!
In Europe, the base version has 1,0L inline 3 turbo.
yes. and for some reason honda never seemed to be able to be competitive in europe
I did a double take @ 7:13. The footage is running in reverse => it looked like an SUV was taking the curve in reverse @ speed
Any rock chips?
I was equally as surprised and in disbelief when he said it only weighed 2800lbs
Yep, the civic is still a light car
They’re very light cars. I remember test driving a 2017 LX sedan and it felt like a go-cart, by how light the car felt and how direct the steering is
@@mitchellsteindler Thats not light compared to 90's civics
@@04dram04 well... duh
That's dry weight I believe
What intake is he running
Rocks with sticky tires is the worst!
What could they do with my s2000
7:13 guys get better shots where u dont see ppl reversing lmao
I recently bought a Civic 1.0 Turbo from 2022 and my brother a Focus 1.5 from 2021 and he is always laughing how slow mine is compared to his. i´d wish i could at least match his hp 😅
0-60mph in 11 sec is very good
😝
Shoot. I like it
Hi, can you build my civic?? Sure! INSTALLS LAPTOP!
How can I contact you?
Nice you modify so you can achieve safe high hp
orbis turned tpe r into all wheeld drive eieth electric motor and brakes in their own wheel, claiming it weighs same weight as stock wheels. review one, especially cool if its done on new type r transmissions and seats on older smaller type r
What's this guy shop name
Nice
Currently pushing 252 hrsspr and 280 trq on a 2018 civic si. And I can confirm it is super hella fucking fun. Not insanely fast. But quick and reliable
Wat mods?
@@chorizojuice how I put it together in order////
-Mishimoto intercooler (pipes)
-HKS catback exhaust
-PRL air intake cobra
-not running on E. Just 91premium
-Custom tune (ktuner)
*lil side note* before the custom tune with just the boltons listed above. The dyno was reading 220 ish horsepower SO THAT BEING SAID. Even with basic boltons you can see some performance 🔥Drive safe out there!❤️
@@alecsii4273 so far im just intake and ktuner(23psi) and waiting for my exhaust to arrive. how long u been tuned? Any issues?
@@chorizojuice forgot to mention I get around 23psi as well. Was tuned at 30,500ish miles. And I’m currently at 49. I haven’t had a single reliability issue at all.
10.19 @ 138 mph
Id like this engine in my Honda element please
Just boost the k series lol
I love my si...it ain't the fastest but it's fun and to be honest if I wanna catch and pass you I have a kawasaki for that.
I'm also curious about torque figures... 🤔
The L15 is very undersquare, and usually makes more torque than HP. The torque is limited when tuning to protect the tiny rods and pistons.350+ tq is easy with a bigger turbo
`high torque` is just more hp down in the low/mid rev range anyway
@@hotdog9262 torque and hp are totally different
@@Senioritis012 well no. in practice as said, so called `high torque` is just more hp to the wheel..down in the rev range. just look at the numbers of any dyno chart and compare the two stats through the range with another engine that`s `low torque`. but with similar peak hp
@@hotdog9262 nor quite. Higher torque in mid-range will be awesome for daily driving, but high torque in high revs is quite useful only for high-end power applications.
I'm interested is specific numbers instead of the term "high". I suppose is higher that standard but I want to know how higher is
The wider tires are going to slow the car down faster then the upgraded front brakes.