Ways the BMW 128i is Better than a 135i or BRZ - One Take

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  • @ballmode
    @ballmode ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Not feeling the background music all video. Hard to decipher road noises/exhaust/people talking and having this music on in the background. I would prefer music during the intro/outro, and moving shots of the car then quiet it back down during cabin segments.

    • @mpolinsk22
      @mpolinsk22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thought I was going crazy or it was coming from a different tab.

    • @NewDesignVinylGraphics
      @NewDesignVinylGraphics ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Especially that awful sample song wtf is that

  • @16vPete
    @16vPete ปีที่แล้ว +122

    The 128i is an excellent car, I absolutely love mine. Especially after suspension, an alignments, rear diff, and 3 stage intake manifold with a 130i tune.

    • @BESIMXCARS
      @BESIMXCARS ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I know this guy

    • @riyadyar
      @riyadyar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same !

    • @project_piston
      @project_piston ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want to put a diff in mine. Need to add the oil cooler for track duty though. Besim your videos convinced me to get the car. @16vPete your articles convinced me to keep it. The Veloster N keeps calling though.

    • @16vPete
      @16vPete ปีที่แล้ว

      @@project_piston Veloster N is an awesome car too!

    • @grouchscouch6970
      @grouchscouch6970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      reading these comments as I just picked up my 128i, super fun stock but will definitely be looking into doing some mods! If you don't mind me asking is this all you've done to the car?

  • @patricklinkous
    @patricklinkous ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Naturally aspirated BMW sixes are some of my favorite engines. Beautiful sound, fantastic power band. 👌

    • @clardrives9301
      @clardrives9301 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, and they’re pretty bullet proof as well

    • @cognition26
      @cognition26 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@clardrives9301 The owner of the car said he would've been broke if he had to pay for labor on car at 15:20 . I wouldn't call that bullet proof.

    • @hangpilot1200
      @hangpilot1200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cognition26 I've got 165k & 185k miles on my N52's. Bulletproof engines & transmissions so far. Preventative water pumps/thermostats at 120k were a pain. Where most BMWs still require most mx is the suspension bushings. Other than that... my E90's are worlds more reliable than my E46s were. I also chose to go normally aspirated and stayed away from the turbos since I keep my cars for a quarter million miles. 👌

    • @fckyoutoobe
      @fckyoutoobe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yupp love both my e39 bmw 530i and 540 although the 540 is the 4.4L V8

    • @fckyoutoobe
      @fckyoutoobe ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cognition26 ur an idiot 😂 really dumb BRUH 💯 he said Labor,LABOR, HAD ZERO TO DO WITH ENGINE ITS THE SHOP THAT CHARGES HOURLY RATE U CLOWN ,NIT THE ENGINE CHARGING HIM 🙄😒🤔🤔DUHHH

  • @OneJuanWon
    @OneJuanWon ปีที่แล้ว +99

    The unloved 128i is fantastic out of the box - the mods done on this one really wakes things up. And the N52 is a gem of an engine, just the basics to keep it happy. Very nice ride 👍

    • @RicBergstrom
      @RicBergstrom ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unloved? Coveted is more like it..... I'll never sell mine.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely not unloved

    • @lilTryhard
      @lilTryhard ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RicBergstrom Right?! I thought about selling mine and the guy I was talking to about it asked if it was a V6 or V8... I just had to stop and say I changed my mind on selling right now.

    • @DearMajesty
      @DearMajesty ปีที่แล้ว

      lol no it isn't. oil temps spike to 300 degrees immediately after like 5 minutes of hard driving. it can't stand up to shit without a massive oil cooler

  • @AndrewKarmy
    @AndrewKarmy ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This is a seriously cool build, reminds me of all the mods that were popular before 2016 in the 1600/2002 community. Classic BMW spirit to pull a few select parts from across their lineup and mate it together.

    • @PrisonerD
      @PrisonerD ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed - very traditional mods just like old school BMWs. I did similar with my e30 - better suspension, brakes, LSD & an M30 swap from a 535i. Has been quick and ultra reliable just like the car here.

  • @drivefasternow9071
    @drivefasternow9071 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I went from FR-S -> 335i -> 128i and I found it to be the Goldilocks, especially after doing similar mods to this gentleman. I'm surprised he hasn't done the 3-stage intake manifold. Between that, headers, intake, exhaust (secondary cats still present), and the associated tune, it brings the car up to 275-280 hp and improves the top end dramatically. There's a MILVs mod that is last on my list that gets 1mm additional valve lift and then you're knocking on the door of 300 crank hp.
    The LSD with shorter final drive is the other big piece of that puzzle. I did a 3.64 with 3-clutch unit in mine from BimmerWorld.
    th-cam.com/video/LNHHn0SHXvI/w-d-xo.html

    • @16vPete
      @16vPete ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It looks like he does have the 3 stage, just needs a tune. Love mine!

    • @drivefasternow9071
      @drivefasternow9071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ian trofimov yes. One day, hopefully, you'll understand that it's not about all the power, but the right amount of power.

    • @drivefasternow9071
      @drivefasternow9071 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ian trofimov I'm happy that you're happy!
      The reality is that it would be very difficult to make that car work well on the track. You won't believe me until you spend multiple weekends chasing issue after issue and upgrade after upgrade trying to manage the heat.
      BTW, its not that i don't like power. Our 535xi Touring made 647 to the wheels when we bought it. I detuned it to about 450 wheel hp in the name of reliability, but it still pulls pretty strong for a baby hauler.

    • @BESIMXCARS
      @BESIMXCARS ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm jealous of the shorter final drive, I bet that woke it up a lot, especially with how tall the gear ratio is from the factory. Iirc 5th at 7k rpm is around 170 mph!

    • @drivefasternow9071
      @drivefasternow9071 ปีที่แล้ว

      @BESIM X CARS not that it could hit 170, but that only helps your point! Yes, it made a big difference. This guy did a unique diff build, as I suspect that he found an early diff with a bolted ring gear. Swapping in LSDs in nonM E9x/E82 is very expensive because they have a welded ring gear that needs to be cut off and then a new one re-welded on. Very frustrating as it's not a DIY job. The solution is buying the built diff (~$3k) and swapping the whole thing in.

  • @e46m54nissansr20937
    @e46m54nissansr20937 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think the 1 series in general just has been forgotten a little bit. I remember when they first came on the scene I was like wow, they reincarnated and modernized the E46 and called it a 1 series, brilliant. I also think the exterior styling aged well and goes well with the 1 series short wheel base up on its toes stance.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr ปีที่แล้ว

      IKR its almost like the "E30" of its era....as things across the board sized up...and got heavier, more "sophisticated" forced induction more computers/driver aids bs that gets in the way of the "true driver experience"....damn now the 2.0 Turbo...has damn near 300 pounds of torque at 1500rpm....almost NO character in these newer BMW at all...the turn initiate is so CRUCIAL and tactless....and if its an X drive a 2.0 is like 4000 pounds....the 6cyl X drives are like 4300+...and the turn initiate Paired with the sluggish rear/power delivery equates to one of the sorriest driving experiences ive ever seen/felt this was from a 430i X drive m sport the dealership had me drive as a courtesy car when my daily i3 was in for a windshield replacement/warranty....and i learned how to drive stick on a chipped e46 325ci at 15. Just a shame what these bmw have grown into....catering to "poaching" lexus drivers and audi drivers etc....ppl with "purchasing power" and no sentiment whatsoever to being vested in an actual "driving experience" or a packaged EXPERIENCE on the road not offered by others. VIA FR with ideal/wide/usable powerband.

  • @apexwheels
    @apexwheels ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Love the 1 series. Some good suspension, wheels, and an LSD and you've got a seriously good dual duty car. Great choice on those wheels too!

  • @Resist_Oppression
    @Resist_Oppression ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dope epi. The guest's personalities is perfect for a channel like this. Plus it's not about a supercar, but personal car. 🔥

  • @brettmarshall2565
    @brettmarshall2565 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No joke I bought one right after this video and I’ve had it for about 5 months now, and this thing is amazing

  • @hduncan2587
    @hduncan2587 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm going to have to watch this later since I just got to work. But I did buy a 128i coupe last year for its balance of comfort and capability. As much as I love how visceral the BRZ is (having driven plenty for work before and after the purchase), the amount of road noise and ride harshness in comparison, not to mention the lack of visibility, the 128i is a wonderfully balanced car not just for being a small f/r coupe by todays standards, but one that can actually be driven comfortably for hours on end without the fatigue. If only they had a limited slip diff and more engine note from the factory.
    I'm unfortunately stuck with an automatic (it was a work trade-in I jumped on), but considering they are pretty much as quick as a first gen BRZ manual for acceleration, its not a horrible hit (unlike if one buys the BRZ in two pedals). Before Covid struck, I was already getting my girlfriends impressions on different vehicles for a third car. A Mustang coupe, MkII Audi TT 3.2 (the VR6 and visibility are some of my favorite aspects, though the interior lacks the character of the Mk1), and lesser extent Genesis 3.6 Coupe were among some of my ideals. I brought home an FR-S, and as much as she understood why I loved it as a drivers car, the flinty ride and interior noise just going to dinner was enough for us to decide it wouldn't be "that car" for us. Prior to that, I had a 330i at work I'd been driving around for a while, and it changed my old perceptions of the E90 from being "this sold well, why?" to understanding its duality. I took her to test drive an E91, and it was settled... the search was on, until Covid struck. Her work was closed, and prices went up. Hope lost.
    One morning I pulled into work to see a 128i on the street, not even knowing it was a trade from our sister lot some four hours away. Remembering it too had the N52, and remembering that I actually liked driving them (yet the E90's always left me somewhat cold before that one 330i manual), I asked who's it was. Hearing it was a trade in, it felt meant to be. Get my BMW and compact coupe fix all in one. It even had the sport package, came in a good color to ward off obvious dust ( Silver Cashmere metallic), and a lack of iDrive.
    Perfect? No. The TPMS and a bad brake sensor have lights on the dash, which I'm not as concerned about as the diff whine and occasionally clunky 2-3 shift. Having bought it with 120k and not knowing for sure its history, I figured the water pump and thermostat were likely a ticking time bomb (indeed by 126,000 miles it reared its head), but aside from that, an AC compressor, a passenger window regulator, and learning the woes of the HID's in a carwash (someone didn't seal things right), it's actually been a blast. New Bridgestones, charcoal filter delete, and silicone intake boot later, I'm mostly fine with where it is. Though yes, stainless lines would be nice for the brakes, and will likely go that route.

  • @KR4K40
    @KR4K40 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have a 130i (Europe only 4 door hatchback) and very much the same applies. Fantastic car, reliable and very fun to drive, and comfy even with poyurethane engine mounts because I wanted a tall chassis mounted shifter. I can also attest that M3 control arms are the way to go: no more understeer and a much better steering response!

    • @AdriWeedMan
      @AdriWeedMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      m3 control arms must come from an M3 donator?

    • @KR4K40
      @KR4K40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdriWeedMan no, as with all parts automotive you can buy parts separate, online. Got mine from Amazon lmao cost me like 50€ per part

    • @AdriWeedMan
      @AdriWeedMan ปีที่แล้ว

      link please

    • @pearce_nz
      @pearce_nz ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoever ordered my 130i at the time speced it out hard with the m sport badges and carbon diffuser area but in my opinion its a bit too slow for me these days and I think ill move up to a 135i n55 in a dct spec. 130i is a gem of a car and it will stay remembered for me.

    • @KR4K40
      @KR4K40 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdriWeedMan bro just google it. "Bmw e87 m3 control arm kit" will give you many references and you can buy the pzrts separately for cheaper on any parts retailer. They're oem bmw parts, just for the bmw m3 instead

  • @sceett
    @sceett ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Had a 125i coupe. It only had about 220hp but was one of the best cars I’ve ever owned, the straight six sounded great too.

  • @tractioncontroldelete
    @tractioncontroldelete ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I loved this one! The NA inline-6 that lasts forever despite daily driving and track work is exactly what makes BMWs great. Back when the chassis was better than the motor

  • @AB-jk7tw
    @AB-jk7tw ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Have to agree. I had a 135 for three years - enjoyed the car but very complex, and expensive to own. Traded it for a 128 and I could not be happier - not near as quick as the 135 but far more practical, reliable, less complex and less expensive to own while still being a blast to drive.

    • @LEWiSG
      @LEWiSG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s the reason its expensive to own sir ?

    • @AB-jk7tw
      @AB-jk7tw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LEWiSG Just to give you an idea, my 135 had the following significant, and very expensive, problems over 5 years - high pressure fuel pump replaced, injectors clogged, turbo’s started to have wastewater issues and BMW told me I needed a carbon cleaning. My 128 has none of these parts, issues or costs!

    • @LEWiSG
      @LEWiSG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AB-jk7tw in Uk we only have 125i, do you recommend that for more reliability? Also I won’t be tracking or anything and live In a city, would I really need a turbo car? I heard the N52 is way more reliable than N55

  • @pablomoscoso6465
    @pablomoscoso6465 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The n52 engine is the better match for both the 328i and 128i, lightweight and so slick up the rev range. Nobody talks about the fact that the block is made about of magnesium alloy for weight savings and that it has individual throttles in the form of Valvetronic.
    These platforms RULE!

  • @dbeckMSP
    @dbeckMSP ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The music is really weird in the video. Especially on the drive by at ~6:50 where it’s so loud it drowns out the car? Maybe it’s just me but I don’t need background music and don’t like when it takes away from the actual sound of the video. If this is what the algorithm desires then I guess I’m in the minority. I won’t stop watching because it’s TST but this specific background music format is no good for me.

  • @sameerpandya1947
    @sameerpandya1947 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These things are gems. I wish they were common but they are so darn rare, particularly with the sport package and heated seats.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. The 135i stole the headlines and sales.

  • @michaelfontenot9354
    @michaelfontenot9354 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People don't realize how special the 128i is. NA I6 and a 6 speed manual, true 3200 lb car with modern suspension is a rare treat these days. I've been in love with mine since I got it about a year ago. After racking up thousands in speeding tickets driving my 450 whp C6 I still manage to get tickets in this 128 as well lmao. HP really is just another drug, you wind up getting used to it in the end and go broke trying to chase the high. Keep the rubber side down friends!

  • @Pauli-COJ
    @Pauli-COJ ปีที่แล้ว +32

    nice to see all specs of car being appreciated and adapted to one's taste ! looks to be a very nice build, especially the self assembled diff.
    otherwise, as a personal preference, the inserted music in the video "distracted" me a bit from the discussion. it was ok in your supra VS type R video as it had an edited aspect. however, for one takes, i'd argue to just keep a clean music-less audio.

    • @gcjproductions9380
      @gcjproductions9380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      totally agree for the music

    • @anomuumit
      @anomuumit ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, lose the music. We're here for the sound of the car.

  • @amzmoney
    @amzmoney ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome build here! One thing to note, people need to stop calling the B58 a "SUPRA" engine... when it is in a bunch of BMW cars prior to the Supra.

  • @DasWauto
    @DasWauto ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m glad to see the 128i get some love. Mine looks very similar to this, same colour, ARC-8s. I’ve got the slicktop, which was hard to find, and sport package (for the seats) and no iDrive. Supposedly that spec puts it under 3100lbs but I have yet to confirm that.
    The LSD and M3 arms like this guy has are next on my list. I’ve done Ohlins R&T suspension, refreshed the brakes and added Hawk pads, and the wheels so far.

    • @DigitalDissident
      @DigitalDissident ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have EU spec, 135i and I'm also thankful it is slicktop, no iDrive

  • @ScoutingForZen
    @ScoutingForZen ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mega props for showing 128i love. I know the 135i has more power, but for long-term reliability, this is the way to go

  • @escho14
    @escho14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:46 reminds me of the opening scene to the original 1969 version of The Italian Job

  • @jjturner7463
    @jjturner7463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was my first car i got about a year ago, and i gotta say it has been a great first car. i got it w 47k miles so still very young, it has been easy to work on yourself, and i agree with the turbo problems in the 135i! that also played a part in my deciding to go 128.

  • @yamman93
    @yamman93 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have completed pretty much all the same mods on my e46 330ci. LSD, diff, pss10. It’s. Great. But If I was doing it today instead of 10 years ago I would of bought the 128. At this point e46s are so old that you really have to want an e46 specifically for it to make more since then modifying the 128. Such a great car.

  • @joshscism2351
    @joshscism2351 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Having owned numerous "1ers," I can say with authority: a 128i M Sport manual is an outstanding drivers car. I do love my 135is for its performance, N55, and rarity, but comparatively - the 128i is a more civil and silky driver. These 1 series deserve all the praise they receive. They are a delight!

  • @Matt_Guns
    @Matt_Guns ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently got in an accident in my Tacoma truck and my dad blessed me by letting me use this bad boy until my truck is fixed and I literally love driving this thing. Powerband is excellent, steering is smooth and the car is just all around super responsive.

  • @texas0bserver729
    @texas0bserver729 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why I love my 07 Z4 3.0si roadster. Pros: Top tier N52 engine 255hp, top down, engine bay a mile long to DIY everything.

  • @1v1qsns
    @1v1qsns ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guys I owned an N52 car. Trust me they’re speaking facts. My dream was to do a 328i E92 RWD 6 speed with a lil weight reduction, 3 stage intake manifold, AA headers and tune. Probably make around 240whp and it would be the perfect car. Engine is so much smoother than the 335 I bought after it. I made more money and started chasing horsepower but I honestly never had a driving experience like the old 328 I had. Power isn’t everything

  • @1855Media
    @1855Media ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Even more of a sleeper is the e90 328i. There is not a big weight difference compared to the 128i (sub 200 lbs. as I recall) and they are much easier to find. Plus, you can get more variants (sedan, coupe, rwd, awd, etc.) depending on your needs.

    • @jpleon314
      @jpleon314 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lol not a sleeper, 328i E90’s are everywhere and stanced to all hell

    • @raccs600
      @raccs600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpleon314 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but they're not as good looking or special and 200 lbs makes a big difference in reality.

    • @jpleon314
      @jpleon314 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mediocreman2 E90’s aren’t sleepers either there everywhere

    • @1855Media
      @1855Media ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jpleon314 being a “sleeper” has nothing to with how many were built. That’s irrelevant. Being a sleeper is a function of having performance that is beyond what others expect.

  • @colorr-1238
    @colorr-1238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2011 128i auto and I love that car some much. Planning to purchase an m2 or m4 competition now but still keeping my 128i.

  • @guillaumegras2200
    @guillaumegras2200 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've owned for 7 years a 125i E82 remapped to 130i, with a Quaiffe LSD. That is to this day the best car I've ever owned, the N52 engine was superb, reliable and efficient while the sensible size of the car made it super fun on country roads.

  • @daveed4475
    @daveed4475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve had my 2012 for 7 years and still love it.

  • @E79eternal
    @E79eternal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have this exact year and model but mine is a convertible. 112k miles and absolutely no issues so far. Drive one if you find one and you’ll know why this is a special car. Solid review on the 128i🙏

  • @gms03sbd3
    @gms03sbd3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Europe we do not have the 128i but we have the 125i that is the same engine 265hp of the 330i, I have been checking them so many times but they are not as cheap as this 128i in the US.

  • @jimjohnson4072
    @jimjohnson4072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just picked up a nice 2011 for $8500! 130k miles and well cared for.

  • @wmg378
    @wmg378 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I fell for the BMW NA 6 with my e39 530i. It's not fast but its a fun car to wring out, i considered the 540 but with the added headaches of that engine and higher purchase prices (especially for manuals), i deemed it not worth it. The farther we move on from the 128i the more I want one, such a great balance of size/power.

    • @james10165
      @james10165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After owning a pre vanos e39 540i with a 6 speed manual, I had to buy another e39 and went with a manual 530i. I own a g30 540i as a daily, but its nowhere near as well built nor does it handle as well as the e39s.

  • @BESIMXCARS
    @BESIMXCARS ปีที่แล้ว +4

    128i is best car. I used to tell people that if you could go back to 1999, time travel all the engineers responsible for the E36 M3 and bring them to the late 2000’s, this is what they would build.

  • @jasonb5765
    @jasonb5765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely agree with this vid. I have a 135i N55 vert and a 328xi N52 touring, both manuals. Both much heavier than this car, but on the same spectrum. Between the 135 (stock m-sport suspension) and the 328 (KW v1) there isn't as much of an excitement gap as you would think. The light weight of a 128i coupe would make it absolutely the most fun non-M BMW, turbo or NA.

  • @josueramirez8300
    @josueramirez8300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had an e36 M3 with the s52 which is the old school predecessor of the engine in this car, similar horsepower and all and it was very torquey thru out every gear. Very fun to drive even with it not being crazy fast in a straight line

    • @TechTokOffical
      @TechTokOffical ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 328 e36 and in 40 yrs it's my absolute favorite car I've ever owned. Will never sell it. Do u know if the 128 was the chassis and the displacement still in 2008?

    • @jddonegan
      @jddonegan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 2007 E90 328i reminds me a lot of the 1995 M3 I had for a while. Both are great cars.

  • @MarioDallaRiva
    @MarioDallaRiva ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bravo 👏🏼
    I’m still enjoying my stock 08 E82 w/ sport pkg I bought new in Feb2009.
    The smooth N52 👌🏼

  • @keegan_lutz
    @keegan_lutz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably one of my favorite one takes in recent memory

  • @e46m54nissansr20937
    @e46m54nissansr20937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like naturally aspirated 6 cylinders. Of course i love a peppy smooth N/A BMW Inline 6 which I had all through college but I also actually love an N/A V6 as well has to at least rev to 7-7.5k though

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love these cars. It's hilarious when people spend $35k on a BRZ that doesn't perform as well and will never sound good when a 128i for $6k exists. But, I'm SHOCKED he didn't put in a 3 stage intake manifold. Significant performance improvement but yes a tune is needed. If you want to get a much better sound and even more power get a high quality intake and headers. Headers make this car into a dream. You don't even need to mess with the rest of the exhaust. Really strange this guy tracks the car but doesn't care about engine performance. Too bad about the yellow lights.

    • @bruce_son
      @bruce_son ปีที่แล้ว

      a lot of the 128i manuals come with n51, which already come equipped with a 3 stage intake and a lower CR. They are less desirable as the ceiling is quite a bit lower 15-20hp.
      Yes the 128i is fun, but it will get smoked on the track everyday by a stock gr86. Those cars come with a pretty good factory LSD, and are very easy to push the limit. The 128i/328i gets a bit unstable when you try to push it past 8/10s even when modded.
      The car is classed the same as the 135/335i in SCCA and that is why it is not as popular since its not competitive at all.

  • @willvanhouten8998
    @willvanhouten8998 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how they added music to the cut scenes but the first one made me think I left TheCarPassionChannel on in another tab bc its the exact same as the outro music lol.

  • @A_S377
    @A_S377 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You forgot to mention the biggest advantage. Anti corrosion methods. The 128i came from the factory with a 12 year anti corrosion warranty. It also uses way more high strength steel with structural adhesives. It is a car built for long term use, unlike the Japscrap.

  • @daivdninjabiomech7888
    @daivdninjabiomech7888 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was shopping around for a 128i and I saw this video but I decided to watch it after I bought one. I bought one and now I have watched it

  • @mark_e82
    @mark_e82 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Just got my 128i m sport last month. I feel like the 128i buzz has been growing recently.

    • @VictorPitstop
      @VictorPitstop ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, I hate that it’s buzzing because I’m trying to get rid of my ZHP for a 128i 😅

    • @Suhspencce
      @Suhspencce ปีที่แล้ว

      Im looking for one! super hard to find

  • @anhiirr
    @anhiirr ปีที่แล้ว

    10:16 jeez i went from looking at the gr86 and brz contacting dealeships for a base 6 spd in 2021-2022...to an i3 daily....now im looking at "used" for my for fun option. These 128i look better & better by the day, im even considering a stock renesis/rx-8. That GR86 platform still has its "list" of required mods to be IDEAL or a "jump" from a starter car to more or less Worth keeping as something beyond a stepping stone/platform...like a bolt on Supercharger or turbo kit....as well as bbk etc....if i want that "BUILD" ill wait a few years to source a used one so that type of build/tune is more "affordable" a well tuned for grip/speed 128i seems like it will hold up till "then". Otherwise ill just shell out for a new GR corolla or a modded WRX. Even then im pretty anti/against the wall about a new car....or making payments/financing and modding a car....vs the aspects of buying/modding used and having the ability to sell...down the road. Going through YT looking at my "top 5" feelers/options and you outright say/call it a more luxurious BRZ XD. The idea of throwing money down and having financing then ADDING modds to a car ive yet to pay off...or encounter maintanence issues with....definitely put me off "most new cars" other than a brz or gr86 with a brake upgrade/header+exhaust...with hopes of slapping a SC to pair with the already/ideal combo of headers+pipe. But now that i have a cheap to run daily other than tires/insurance. For these shit cali roads/traffic thats already harsh on your back/seating angle in most sports cars suspension or you compromise some "speed" for comfort...which never translates on track or equates to ideal on track. Now i got time to save for something more suited for my needs/finances....or can wait a few years for this generation of BRZ to hit the 2nd hand market...then go for that build when its more cost effective. Id rather the first adapters of this 2nd gen/FA24....to encounter the majority of "necessary mods" on the track before i own myself. So theyre really doing the grunt work....otherwise "TODAY" im stuck looking at a BRZ for its more ideal roll/daily/streetability vs a GR86...or a WRX with a BBK typically a BBK on all of em ideally. Then pipe/tune. Its all that really has my attention as of 2023...or you consider compromises like elantra N, or civic SI. Which are FF and more price conscoius price/performance conscious as well as EPA oriented/daily viable to a "high extent" from a practicality standpoint, or with a lower mod list and resale value. But This whole 30k-40k market/demographic is such a GREY ZONE it really compounds the value of the used market/avenues. Youre just looking at buying a car straight up off top vs using that sum of $ towards a down payment...on something with relative potential for failure/issues/commonality with new cars/platform/engine adoption. Or a rabbit hole of "more more more" when the goal is for me with a non daily/fun car....ideally for it to be practical/usable with a low mod requirement other than a priority to suspension/handling characteristics. Fast powerful car FUN sure....not if you cant put your foot on the gas though :( Its what makes ppl go from FF to FR and at times from FR to AWD. To me its largely an aspect of being able to be content and have something you dont have to tool with once youre content with your tune/ride. OFC ppl could delve into mx-5's or etc avenues...but the aspect of having the interior/amenities of a car like "This" while also having the sporty/streetability and relative range of abuse/miles a build like this can withstand...IMO it completely changes how you drive your "FUN CAR" if driving it fast/n powerful equates to more time in the garage anyways...it may cause those ppl to drive that car less...push it less....grows into a love/hate relationship that yields sale/trade etc....which happens all too often enough. For the price idk if there are many cars that can offer what something like a 128i can or a properly maintained OG light pickup truck can in todays/practical drivers market.

  • @theodor12
    @theodor12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Other alternatives to this car, with the same amazing N52 N/A engine and a manual, are the 130i hatchback, the classic E90 330i and the Z4 3.0Si, all fantastic cars.

    • @cplabaunza
      @cplabaunza ปีที่แล้ว

      and the 2001-2002 Z3 Coupes

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No 130i ugly back in the US fortunately but the other cars I think are great to drive. Problem is the Z4 is ugly and the E90 isn't much better

    • @Arrozconchopsticks
      @Arrozconchopsticks ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mediocreman2 E90 is not ugly

  • @ThatGuy-xd5fs
    @ThatGuy-xd5fs ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Please dont ruin the car market - shut up!! There is nothing left for us poor ppl

    • @malcolmn.5222
      @malcolmn.5222 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are plenty of used cars for you "poor people".

  • @cheetos586
    @cheetos586 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a N55 135i and drove it from NY to Cali and the engine was destroyed due to rod bearings. Prior to the engine breaking, many components were breaking down constantly and parts were unreasonably expensive.
    The 135 looks great on papaer but there was always something missing. If I were to do it all over again I would probably have a very similar set up to todays guest. 128i Manual + LSD + coilivers + performance brakes & no short shifter.
    Overall though, I wouldnt recommend buying a 1 series, I replaced mine with a Porsche Boxster base manual, which has been pretty rewarding to drive, straightforward to work on, and decently priced parts.

    • @jon_e96
      @jon_e96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m going from a Boxster base to 335is, I never hated a car more than the Boxster. Absolutely horrendous. Slow and designed by special ed students. At least you can work on modern BMWs with ease

    • @t.c904
      @t.c904 ปีที่แล้ว

      N55 and rod bearings ? Than your maintenance is horrible. My 135i `11 run with MHD STage 2+ for 100tkm. The only thing i have to change was the waterpump + OFHG.
      Warm up the engine slowly and change the oil in 10tkm intervall.

    • @cheetos586
      @cheetos586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@t.c904 enjoy your ownership, I wouldn’t recommend personally

  • @garnetheron4885
    @garnetheron4885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% I bought my daughter a 2010 128I and I thought it was a bear better than all those other cars one J R it is pretty reliable and have a fun

  • @DrRyan82994
    @DrRyan82994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's kind of rare to see people get behind the less powerful version of a car. used to seeing "why would you waste money modding x? just buy y."

  • @DoctorSoftie
    @DoctorSoftie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review! The background track/noises were pretty distracting though

  • @Ferraridude13
    @Ferraridude13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music during the talking is quite annoying, other than that glad to see a regular viewer car back on the channel!

  • @CarAccelerationChannel
    @CarAccelerationChannel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really enjoy this build, Nice and simple but efficient. I really do wonder why the owner didn't do a simple intake ( or even just a better filter ) tune on it. While not going to get insane amounts of power it would most likely wake up the power-band a bit more and I'm sure make the car even more fun and make his mods work even better.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 ปีที่แล้ว

      usually it's a question of humidity. Western USA is too dusty and so Cal can be too polluted. Sand storms? They happen

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He should have done an intake, 3 stage manifold, headers and that would gain him easily 40hp. Very odd choices

  • @ogmprod
    @ogmprod ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a n55 owner, triggered upon seeing the title. My bro has a 128i so its all love. Lol all jokes aside, dope video. 1 series always my fav 😍

    • @DigitalDissident
      @DigitalDissident ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no one with an N55 is envious, I haven't had anything except the charge pipe breat on my 135i and it has all bolt ons. Having also owned an E82 120i, the biggest chassis difference is the lighter front end of the 4cyl and power steering.

  • @beauwulf
    @beauwulf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget the BMW Z4 E86 3.0si coupe, which is basically the much lighter and more HP version of the 128i.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very easy to get the same power with the manifold swap and don't have to have an ugly Z4

  • @rhinohippo55
    @rhinohippo55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've modded my F22 220D In the exact same philosophy, all the suspension parts, better tires and brakes and just an engine tune.

  • @ColoradoProductions
    @ColoradoProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adding the 3 stage manifold from the 330i/530i gives it just a bit more power and makes it the perfect canyon/track car

    • @A_S377
      @A_S377 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better off with the N54 manifold and MILVs

    • @Arrozconchopsticks
      @Arrozconchopsticks ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@A_S377 what's better about the n54 manifold?

  • @OpenBarGarage
    @OpenBarGarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 128i manual is my favorite daily driver I've ever had!

  • @Lenoch_
    @Lenoch_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Johnny Harris vibes with the orange Patagonia jacket

  • @craiggaulzetti2255
    @craiggaulzetti2255 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thing is remarkably like my old 128i. I ordered mine from Germany (for a lease! Residuals were crazy high then- the lease was cheaper than a vw golf’s lease). White, 6 speed no options except the m sport package. Then I installed m3 subframe bushings, like this guy- an LSD with lower gears, really stiff touring car racing suspension, the widest Azenis rt-615k square tire setup I could fit, and big sway bars. To me this was the last real bmw. The straight 6 IS bmw- these things have a super light magnesium block- it’s light and it handles pretty close to perfect. I miss it- but I traded it for something equally awesome.

    • @okayokay6089
      @okayokay6089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What did you trade it in for?

  • @ThaHammieJaassee
    @ThaHammieJaassee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the z4 3.0I manual it was amazing little car. I have a 135i now and oh my god I’ve owed it for 3 years and it’s been sitting for about 2 and half years haha I’m lS swapping it n54 amazing engine until the start breaking

    • @nelsonx4235
      @nelsonx4235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what’s wrong with the 135i?

    • @ThaHammieJaassee
      @ThaHammieJaassee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nelsonx4235 nothing 😂 I just blew the engine. Then I had the dme get damaged. So I gave up on it. I bought a 5.3 ls engine and it’s getting that swap

    • @nelsonx4235
      @nelsonx4235 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThaHammieJaassee oh I see; makes more sense with the ls swap. But how did you blow up the engine?

  • @s19pajua13
    @s19pajua13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe N52 bmws will blow up in popularity soon after the jdm kids wake up and realize the asking prices for 200hp rotted out and beat cars are no longer worth the prices anymore. I sold a 04 RSX type s in meh shape for a 09 128i for only a $100 difference and I couldn’t be happier with how it drives

  • @HidinginYourGarden
    @HidinginYourGarden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    young enthusiast here, love my E90 328xi, N52 club.

  • @gpajic1987
    @gpajic1987 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Needs headers, milvs, euro intake and tune 😊 completely transformed my 130i

    • @louiseitner916
      @louiseitner916 ปีที่แล้ว

      Were the milvs easy to install and set up properly? Did it make a big enough difference?

    • @gpajic1987
      @gpajic1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@louiseitner916 a great mod if you're already doing the valve cover gasket.. my car makes 180rwkw

  • @ArmySigs
    @ArmySigs ปีที่แล้ว

    That is an awesome road! The boring roads around my new home town are killing me

  • @mattlau
    @mattlau 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So tough to find one in manual here in Canada

  • @DullBoyJack
    @DullBoyJack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was on the fence about the music during the intro segment, but when it went to the driving... it's really unnecessary. I understand the desire to make it more interesting, but it feels like a seasoning that's just out of place here.

  • @nichijou56
    @nichijou56 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I wanted to gatekeep the 128i but i hope to see more nicely set up ones. This is exactly how i want mine to be lol

    • @e46m54nissansr20937
      @e46m54nissansr20937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂😂I can understand you wanting to gate keep Im the same way

    • @MrHDot1997
      @MrHDot1997 ปีที่แล้ว

      was hoping to get one once my license cleans up abit, hopefully they don't become the next big thing

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrHDot1997 I do see these becoming the next big thing unfortunately.

  • @Thefunwayhome
    @Thefunwayhome ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there has always been an argument for "Get the cheaper one and put the better suspension on it" for Mustangs, BMW's, and others. It's a proven concept. There's some wild V6 mustangs and non turbo BMW's.

  • @e46m54nissansr20937
    @e46m54nissansr20937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if…….M put their hands on the N52/N53 and made it into an S motor. Individual throttle bodies, High Lift M Magic on the Valvetronic system , little more displacement, higher rev limit etc etc. What I think you would have is a character simliar to the E46 M3 S54 but, more reliable, smoother and more powerful throughout the rev range.

  • @petert7807
    @petert7807 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 128i is the better pick over the 135i in my opinion because the 1 series is a narrow body shortened e90. Because of that the fenders can't fit much tire. The 300hp stock 135i plus the weight and no LSD makes the car unbalanced out of the box. Removing weight and adding a lsd makes it perfect.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr ปีที่แล้ว

      IMO to lower the overall COST TO own or a 5 year ownership window the mod list to make the 135i ideal/reliable on top of purchase cost or addition of a M1/LSD really has it priced FAR above its "sale/used" value. By contrast a well priced 128i leaves that "wiggle room" to almost equate to a 135i "used price"....while including suspension/LSD mods to the 128i budget....vs having a bone stock 135i that will only proceed to have issues with lines/hoses/cooling/oil/leaks. Which wind up costing as much as the "necessary mods" at point of purchase. Unless you DIY XD and can source parts at an ideal price...not to mention if those lines/cooling/oil issues were already persistent with the previous owner/s then we have the IMPLICATIONS to damage to engine/internals/drivetrain as well..on top of already paying up for the 135i. Or them being a ticking timebomb with their belt/chain...or if the previous owner is aware of said belt issue...and merely is trying to mask the issue with some "mechanic owned" savyness...to off load said problem to the next "sucker" which definitely can happen with private sellers.

    • @LEWiSG
      @LEWiSG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that the case with 125i as well ?

    • @petert7807
      @petert7807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LEWiSG I believe 125i, 128i, and 130i are all N52/N51 powered cars. With an intake, they can be tuned to around 265hp, and with 245 being around the max tire you can fit, it's well matched and balanced. So yes the naturally aspirated cars ftw.

    • @LEWiSG
      @LEWiSG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@petert7807 would u recommend the 125 over 135 if your Just using it in the city and mainly on weekends? Seems like 135/55 engine can have more issues come up and are more for speed heads

    • @petert7807
      @petert7807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LEWiSG 135i is a lot more fun to drive. I dual duty my 128i, daily, track, and autox. Honestly, I'd go for a 328i if I never did any motor sports.

  • @stevencarrington5613
    @stevencarrington5613 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the little music when the fly by comes on it’s like an old action movie love it 😂

  • @NatedoGP
    @NatedoGP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was that noise at 6:50?

  • @redriver15262
    @redriver15262 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    whats up with the stupid background music?
    its so unnecessary and intrusive

  • @MrSaamman
    @MrSaamman ปีที่แล้ว

    Own the 4 door version of this car. The e90 328i 6 speed as a daily. Put 50k miles on it in 2.5 years. It’s been very reliable.

  • @infidel900rr
    @infidel900rr ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dammit car reviewers blowing up another one of the automotive world's best kept secrets!! These, with Msport and MT are already almost impossible to come by. 😔

  • @Aminokm23
    @Aminokm23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do review on a BMW E89 Z4 35i/is DCT/6spd. Not sure why no one does a review on the E89 Z4. Awesome cars!

  • @nlxsteve
    @nlxsteve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup. I’ve been saying this the whole time. 128 is a gem.

  • @ELDOUBLES
    @ELDOUBLES ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a turbo boy but I love bmw i6 engines had a few and they’ve been great!

  • @Cadillacfrank94
    @Cadillacfrank94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss mine. I had more fun in my 128 than my m235i.

  • @sk8ordie4691
    @sk8ordie4691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been eyeing these forever, like a slightly newer e46. Those yellow headlights look horrible with the red tho.

  • @rblbatb
    @rblbatb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always like the 1 series. Good looking car and used prices are coming down.

    • @ryanlee6291
      @ryanlee6291 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were coming down at least lol

  • @n54poppy70
    @n54poppy70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean, i own a single turbo 135i, & of course being on a top mount single makes maintenance a LOT easier.
    besides that, the 135i i still a superior car, just do maintenance before modding!

  • @John.Christopher
    @John.Christopher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not related, but can't wait for Matt and Zach to test a Z06

  • @Mookiecat
    @Mookiecat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had a 135i convertible, I really liked the form factor, seating position, trim size, good steering feel. A stage one tune made it pretty quick.
    The handling up to about 7/10 was very pleasing but would lose composure when pushed hard. The convertible affected the chassis rigidity but was good enough.
    The 128’s had an early version of electric power steering so were not on my list. (Correction: Some euro models had EPS, it appears US models were not EPS)

    • @fregyt
      @fregyt ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea electric power steering is dogshit, I can’t drive the v8 e39s in the same way the straight 6s. Have a friend with turbo 530i pushing 400 from an unopened m54, my m54 na in my 330 pushes about 260-270 with tune and better intake and headers. Can get more with cams. Thing is I just can’t drive without a steering rack directly connected to my wheel. It’s nowhere as fun. I can’t describe how much you lose from electronic steering even if it is “better”! My 2 c

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 128i used hydraulic power steering and it's amazing. Please don't spout misinformation. Thanks

  • @Stevethepirate8973
    @Stevethepirate8973 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the same thing of the Msport 4cyl 2 series. Light red and fun. And pretty cheap anymore for an older one.

  • @ShadowDestroyers
    @ShadowDestroyers ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not a fan of the music personally, would rather hear the car. At least have more subtle music with less random noises that overpowers the car's engine noise. Especially during that flyby. Some people may like the music tho, not for me.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the music was very distracting

  • @A3jettaftw1
    @A3jettaftw1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    128i so slept on

  • @jerridehlinger9689
    @jerridehlinger9689 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive really enjoyed my e90 335d 400hp 600tq 40mpg 170k miles has been very reliable also does well at autox

  • @MrGhostOg
    @MrGhostOg ปีที่แล้ว

    The one thing though talking about reliability when he says he’s driven a big old huge 2k miles… having worked on bmw’s most of my adult life and owned a ton I just know how out of control the bills can get with all the plastics and bushings and rusty bolts and everything that has issues on modern bmws or ones from this generation

  • @be4tb0x
    @be4tb0x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now i'm reminded of my dream of building a hardcore 130i Racecar. 1100 Kg is possible if you go hardcore. than you are in a performance league of much more powerful cars.

  • @ftboomer1
    @ftboomer1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife has a 128i convertible that I really like. Great car but she doesn't like it as much as I do.
    I asked my car friend about the car and taking it over as a daily for me. I was concerned about it being a feminine car and how to make the 128i more masculine.
    He says "Easy! Here is what you do with the 128 to make it more masculine. Trade it in."

  • @howlbridges3677
    @howlbridges3677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are going to cause prices of these to go up chill I was planning to get one this summer

  • @TheSmokingTire
    @TheSmokingTire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like those high shots? We got them with the Insta360 X3! store.insta360.com/product/x3?insrc=INRPEIR&TheSmokingTire&X3car

  • @wl2486
    @wl2486 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t remember these cars being well received when they were new? In fact, I remember car reviewers of this era complaining that the throttle response in the 328i was poor at the time. Anybody else remember this?

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure about throttle response but reviews were excellent. But they got overshadowed by their 135/335 counterparts.