2022 Honda Civic Si Review // A Sensible Hero
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2021
- The 2022 Honda Civic Si ($33,150 CAD starting, $27,300 USD starting) has returned after taking a step back for the 2021 model year. While this new generation may have a few less horsepower than the previous one, it now comes equipped with a limited slip differential. That will hopefully help make this new Si even more fun off the line and in a corner. As a manual only sporty daily driver, can the 2022 Honda Civic Si give you the best of both worlds? Can you have your cake on the commute and eat it too on the drive home? Watch to see what the guys think! SUBSCRIBE!
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It's crazy seeing how much extra features the Canadian Si gets when compared to the American Si. American consumers got screwed over even harder this gen.
Us in (East) Africa don't really get any.
:-|
Yep, it's good to live in Canada.
We pay more here in the US too for the SI
Yeah I'm bummed we don't get the extra features in the US version. Seems like it would be easier for Honda to just produce the same car for both markets.
We didn’t get screwed over, we got absolutely shafted
That intro was epic! This sums up the Acura Integra design process...
😁😅😂🤣
In your opinion
And every other luxury brand based off a regular brand........so what?
You forgot about adding glossy black
@@19hundoc47 Nope. Genesis cars are completely different, Lexus cars are completely different, Cadillac are completely different, Lincoln are kinda similar but not really. Even the old Integra didn't really share a big amount with the Civic
We just got a 2024 (nearly identical to this one) and I have one word to describe it, "balanced". It's the perfect car (under 40k) for someone who wants a comfortable and practical ride 95% of the time but wants the other 5% to be fun and exciting. Well done Honda, well done.
GTI?
@@lnt3ch I think the GTI also falls into this category except its less practical due to the smaller size.
wait until it starts giving you issues. I have a '22 Si and it's on its 3rd steering rack. Now the cruise control randomly turns off and won't turn back on without turning off the car and restarting it. Wireless Android auto randomly disconnects and forgets my phone even exists which can only be solved by factory resetting the head unit. Refuses to stay aligned properly as the steering wheek is somehow perpetually offset by a degree or two. It's incredibly frustrating.
Rev hang has to do mostly with electronics and the ecu. It can be fixed a little by using a lighter fly-wheel. But it is purposely put on the car for emissions to burn off excess fuel, and can be removed with a simple tune.
With how subtle the new civic is designed I'm kinda excited to see what the type r will look like
Think Civic Hatch with a massive rear wing and center exhaust. That's just about it in a nutshell.
Yeah, like will they lean into the craziness and give us something truly unique? Or will they stay in line with this new design and give us a Type R like those of the past
i think a high mounted boney AR wing & a carbon fiber hood & a lower bodykit (not aggressive, just closer to the ground) & 10% lower suspension would make it beautiful.
@@Mlordy
Agreed, would be just about perfect. All vents functional.
@@wbwayne8887 I sure hope so, it didn’t look like it in the spy shots. Fake vents aren’t that big of a deal though, I’m just glad it’s not riced out and overdone like I thought the 10th gen was.
I think the Type R treatment would look better on the Civic sedan imo. I’m excited for the 11th gen Type R!
The intro's are probably the part I look forward to the most 😂🤣
Weldone guys, I like the way you guys look at each car objectively and really assess it for what the platform really is and not trying to compare it with an M3 or something along those lines. Take a car, analyse it for what it truly is, that's great reviewing, once again, weldone guys, I really enjoy your format over anything else out there, the way Thomas and James complement each other is just a joy to watch.
"compare it with an M3 or something along those line" ... Doug DeMuro's review!
"Honda are kinda giving everyone something they don't want" NAILED IT! 🤣😂
This actually looks like a car I see myself driving. A decent looking exteriour and definitely a good looking interiour with a nice price range.
And fun to drive*
Meanwhile the Accord, which is supposed to be superior, is stuck with those awful split taillights and the small 1.5 L engine
@@CrispyHulk1 wym? The accord has a 2.0T and especially its 10 speed helps it alot. If anything those cars are sleepers
The 2.0 is an option, not the standard.
They gave Civics their face back. Not that sad little droopy front end they've had forever. Massive improvement.
This channel is great, its like the best of Savagegeese and the Straight Pipes combined, dark humor but not so dark , fun stuff but not too silly. Amazing and genuine chemistry between Thomas and James, I enjoy watching the technical aspects as much as the humour acts, you guys are great! kudos to the team and thanks for the content!
Straight Pipes suck. These guys actually know how to give specific and useful criticisms
@@Antenox yeah its a bit more basic approach but I honestly enjoy some of their content too. TH is more of a “realistic” older top gear content, there are so many good car journalists these days I grew up watching auto motor und sport and didn’t understand shit what they were saying cause Germany, but loved their shots and the older VHS tapes of Top gear when Jeremy Clarkson had curly hair. I would say we’re in a much better place now!
Straight Pipes does suck
@@Antenox Straight pipes is annoying as fuck
@@erichubbard4569 I liked them in the beginning but then they just started branding nonstop and pushing for 1 million subscribers etc. Rubbish now
Respect your review for liking it for what it is and not dissing it for what its not. The cornering, the shifting, the smiles it brought naturally, loved it.
That dashboard being further back in the older civics was a genius piece of design though. Always in your line of sight
Basically what I learned from this is I want a Canadian Si...
not for 30K? I was seriously thinking about a Civic, but I got me a Maverick Hybrid on order instead
@@slingbart705 Ew...that's the most weenie looking truck I've ever seen. Right next to the Ridgeline lol
Just get a lada
@Stevie Burton yes
The intro was golden 😂😂you guys stay killing it with these videos. Keep up the awesome work boys! Y'all are an inspiration to more people than you know
Nothing beats that Escalade intro from a while ago. They are all enjoyable though!!!!
For me other than this intro: Escalade, DBX, Charger Hellcat Widebody, AMG gT63s vs. M5 comp.
Best car I’ve ever used my high-end cash to buy.
I have this exact Sonic Grey Pearl color for my 11th Gen Civic Si and I find excuses to go out and drive it day to day
It gives me the feel of what BMWs used to give you back in the day of just pure driving fun.
You guys really nailed all the cool bits my Canadian spec packs and definitely how well it trumps the BRZ/GR86 for that
You guys are my favorite TH-cam couple! Thank you for the awesome car reviews!
2016-2017 Accord Sport was available in Canada with push button start, sunroof, heated seats, etc, all of EX goodies, even on 6MT. American version was LX based. They pulled the same crap with this Si.
I believe a lot of those things were available on the sports special edition as well
@@-SP. No, just heated seats and cheap fake leather. Nothing else.
@@YasssStitch Sunroof too
Me who lives in Michigan: "I am some what of a Canadian myself you know."
As an American I never want James to use our version of words don’t change for anybody! You are the best!!!
Man I love you guys. Top 5 best shows on all of TH-cam imo. Thank you
You guys rock! I love watching your Honda videos and listening to your thoughts on the new Civic Si. I think this is the best Civic Si Honda has ever made.
Thanks, Jason.
Thanks, Jason.
Thanks, Jason.
Thanks, Jason.
I agree it’s the best one ever made but I also agree for this day and age it coulda been way better in a lot of aspects such as power plant, gearing, optional free summer tires etc. I mean there is no justifying the price tag of 28k for 200 HP out of a 1.5 Thats getting at best 0-60 in the 7 seconds and quarter mile in the 15s. I know 0-60 and 1/4 isn’t everything but when paying nearly 30k for a car that’s advertised as a daily performance sedan, it just doesn’t sit right.
This looks like a super exciting car, however I wish it had a higher revving engine like Honda used to put in all of their performance cars.
Welcome to the era of emissions regulations
Sound wise it wouldn't make a difference because turbos muffle engine sounds.
Imma keep my 8200rpm EK, people at car meets say they can hear the vtec coming from far away.
Jetta GLI , kia forte and mazda 3 direct competitors ! Love it .
but still a vtec with turbocharged
Just buy an older civic si 🤷♂️
I love the fact that you put out all the information (also) in metric units
Love you guys!!! Best Canadian you tube reviewers for sure... Picking mine up tomorrow!!!😍😍😍
One of the few channels I can watch the entire video and relax without having to skip parts. No ads/plugins/popup banner (cough, MAT Watson, cough)
Great job!
I think it's a great looking car without having all the sharp angles and so much going on. Just looks sleek and practical.
so like a accord? why not just buy a accord then?
@@Scypher0th cuz it has a manual transmission and will be way more fun to drive. Honda manuals are the best
@@Scypher0thlol because it's not an accord. It drives and handles different than an accord and has a manual transmission and limited slip dif which the accord doesn't have. That could be few reasons why someone would want it.
@@Scypher0th i have an accord with a v6 6 speed manual but it doesn't have a lsd. So it one wheel peels most of the time and blows in the rain.
@@Scypher0th I would'nt say it looks just like it. The accords a freakin land yacht.
You guys are absolutely enjoyable to watch - put a smile on my face (almost;) every time!
Great review. Love these guys, can’t wait for this to come to the UK!
I was super excited about this car. I live in Northern New England... Yeah heated seats are important. WTF
Get a 330i and call it a day
2015 si owner. Last of the naturally aspirated cars. It’s slow, but in corners that lsd make you fall in love. 💪🏾🙏🏾❤️
I feel the same way about my 2012 civic SI. Love the naturally aspirated engines. But I would be interested in seeing how the new turbo engine feels.
My last Si was a 12 Si sedan. Intake and tune and it was just so good. I miss the K series SO much.
@@InsaneBimmer I’ve had the car for a few years. I was thinking about doing the intake exhaust and tune. What mods did you have and how did it feel afterwards?
I do own a 2015 si too but I just traded it in for a 2022 civic si :)
11th gen made me do it 😌
I prefer the k series. I only drove the 10th gen coupe prefer the 9th and 8th gens
I just bought mine yesterday and I’m super stoked! It’s fun, practical, easy to live with and not that expensive.
The opening description of this video sold me on this car
8th gen civic Si is still the best si ever made but I'm loving that 11gen Si
5th gen 😔
Miss my fg2. Got rear ended😭
I'm keeping mine till the wheels fall off.
You guys are so clearly the better of the “major” Canadian reviewers. Keep up the great reviews and beautiful cinematic video.
Love your reviews gents, keep up the great work
Ok I just found this account, but it’s giving me OG top gear vibes and I’m loving it
Man you guys make The s
straightpipes look like a 7th gradr production of the sound of music
That's why i unsubscribe
The SP is so boring these days.
Have last years hatch Sport and absolutely love it. We are so lucky to still have companies that target car people (who don't have 100k to drop at a moments notice) in 2021.
These intros are as hilarious as ever. Terrific review too! Keep it up guys, you’re among the best reviewers on TH-cam.
I'd consider this for my next car!
I’ll take “Things that aren’t true” for $500, Alex.
One of the *very* few fwd cars with a helical slip differential - everything else is a cheesy “ediff” 💀
Jetta GLI , kia forte and mazda 3 direct competitors ! Love it .
Try finding a car
@@MrCumstein why would it not be true to consider?
Nice review. I had an ‘05 Civic Si, my 2nd favorite car I’ve owned after my current ND1 Miata. The new Si is one of the cars I’m considering for its replacement, along with the new GR86 or BRZ. But I might just wait to see the production version of the new Integra. I know many people hate it, but the Si drivetrain in a 4-door hatch - and an even nicer interior, plus likely getting the amenities we should have gotten on the US Si - really appeals to me. I’m also considering the Civic Sport Touring hatch w/6-speed manual, but really want the additional power of the Si. Can’t wait to drive all of these and see which I like best!
I just went from the 05 Si to the new Sport. It’s great in many ways but power is lacking. I really miss my Si and wish I’d have got the new Si. I opted for the hatch because I put bikes inside. However after putting on a hitch on with a rack the hatch is less important.
Love the cheeky Acura skit right on the money lol priceless 👌 🤣
Your intros are the best in the business. Great review. The “Accord Si” looks awesome lol.
I finally got to open mine up this last weekend through some winding roads. The car was designed for stick shift first. It's very stable in the rear. It took me awhile to get use to because it's so different then anything else to drive.
Immediately earned the thumbs up with that intro
Just imagine taking this in a time machine back to the 90s and showing a civic owner this civic.
When I bought a new 2006 Honda Accord, the 2006 Honda Civic was small and the base model did not come with an air conditioner as standard. It was an option. Now the Civics are so nice and I don’t like the way the Accords look
What was the point of that?
awesome guys.. thanks for doing this .. wish u could did more in the inside and explain more details. Keep up the good work
i love this video, im a tech at honda and i got to work on the new si and all the guys were pooping on it saying it sucked, this and that, de-tuned, bla bla bla but this video really does give me a new perspective on how cool this car actually is
Overall great looking car. Love that it comes with a manual still. Interior is nice. Price is decent. What’s not to love? Still prefer the older generation si’s that have vtec and revs high but this is a very capable platform for performance.
Mid 7 seconds 0-60 is what's not to love.
Also the horrible Rev Hang.
@@Genesiscoupe3000 Funny seeing you talking from a genesis coupe 🤣 I used to gap y’all in my 10th gen Si and it wasn’t even close. Hard to take anyone serious who calls a car that’s faster then theirs slow.
There are a lot of positive things to be said about the new civics, but "great looking" is not on the list. Idk who is signing off on the designs coming out of honda, but they need to be fired. These things look absolutely horrific. Words can't even convey how horrible the type R looks.
looks is definitely subjective. Imo it looks bland at best. Think of a lukewarm almost stale milk and how excited you would be drinking it. That's how I think of the SI looks, again. Which is a shame, the tech and the interior deserve better.
Strange how they can go from childish Type R to bland pensioner within a single model range, with nothing in between
Great looking car? 😀😀😀😀
Great video as always guys !! For the car itself, I really don’t like the exterior, it is way better than the previous generation but not enough agressif/sports for me, Honda can do better than that. But I thing they listen the peoples, the interior look’s like way more simple than before.
Even though it was a two-door, this model reminds me of my '99 Civic Si. Pearl Blue.
Honda absolutely nailed it with this new rendition.
That was a dope car, dope color
My coworker just got this one in the same color and man, It definitely looks so good in person. Now I need one myself 😭. I test drove it and the clutch and throttle response is definitely 👌🏼
If this specific version was released in the US, I would've already made my choice of next vehicle, especially with Hondata debunking the power loss. I guess Honda is really banking on the new Integra to win over younger enthusiasts (others have said it and I agree, all the missing features will most likely show up in that car when it arrives). For now, the Jetta GLI will remain at the top of my list for next car.
Just from exterior aesthetics POV I feel like this looks a little better than the upcoming Integra, which is a little awkward with it's hatch design. But I'm also sure they deconted the US Spec Si to not canabalize and promote the Integra as the "premium" option. If they had this spec here I'd likely get this as well. Wireless Android Auto but no wireless charger?!? Really?
I still might consider this though as a nice fun daily.
Personally, the GLI is dogwater. Better off getting the golf R in a dsg or as the manual. Not to mention the audio you get with the gli is crappy beats than getting fender for the gti
Jetta GLI , kia forte and mazda 3 direct competitors ! Love it .
Doesn't Canada get the Integra too? Won't that cannibalize sales for Canada?
They are bring the integra back?
1:00 This is actually exactly how I feel about my 3rd generation 2017 Mazda 3 hatchback 2.5 GT. It's a manual as well, and though it's not fast (only 180 horsepower and naturally aspirated) it's a joy to drive while also being practical and fuel efficient. Sometimes I wish I had gone with something a bit quicker like a Ford Focus ST or even a Civic Si; but I think I made a fair compromise for the extra reliability (particularly in Ford's case).
We picked up the 3 turbo this summer and couldn’t be happier, aside from it only being available in auto.
@@jasonwheeler8996 got one last feb. thing is QUICK for what it is. fun car to drive for sure
@@jasonwheeler8996 I'd be all over that AWD turbo if it was in manual. They're better looking in person than I anticipated.
Test drove a black awd turbo hatch with red interior 😍😍 hoping to get one this summer. That and the soul red exterior are my top choices.
The focus st can be pretty reliable though. I had one and never had a single problem with it
Excellent review, really good SI . On my list definitely
Just rewatched this. The "phfffffffisical" volume knob totally cracks me up! Just ordered one yesterday. Hope to see it before summer starts. :)
I love throttle house videos❤️
I always get excited when I get a notification 😜
Interesting you guys mentioned the Accord, as during your critique section I noticed how much the exterior actually reminded me of the early 90s Accords but in a almost retro-restyle guise. At least Honda came down from the last model's arguably gaudy styling.
They way overcompansated for the gaudiness of the last model. This new civic looks lame
Can we just appreciate how clean James's jacket looks.
That Intro is GOLDEN!!!
First time watching a video from this channel, and i enjoyed it! I love the American/Canadian differences and how we and they say certain words. On a side note, this video was done so well, it felt like watching an episode of Top Gear (UK) with Jeremy, James, and Richard. Well done!
Great video guys! Owned three earlier generations of Si so it’s wonderful to see that it has gotten older and more refined, which appeals to (older) me 🤪.
Keep up the amazing work, you guys really remind me of old school Top Gear, which is the highest praise I can give.
Best intro ever! Had me in tears.
This is a great way to have fun and manage to keep your driver liscence.
It's still a good car in the US, but because of how Honda has de-contented our version, I will not buy it.
The Canadian version is so much better than the U.S version. Wireless charger, foglamps, heated seats, shift lights, dual zone climate, and etc.
Absolutely fantastic video, thank you guys. This or the Civic hatch sport touring? Torn and probably making up my mind sometime this week to purchase before the new year
it sounds crazy man .. Love it
I had actually decided on this car over the Elantra N or WRX. Sadly dealers in my area are charging $5k+ markup, which makes this car lose quite a bit of it's bang for the buck it had going for it. Had the same issue but worse with the Elantra. I ended up with a WRX since Subaru itself is cracking down on dealers charging anything more than MSRP. Is what it is I guess.
"...and quite a lot of messing around."
Jaames: **bonk**
Seeing you pass Whitey's farm at that 90 degree bend brings back so many memories.
As a Minnesotan, I'm crushed they're taking away the heated seats this gen. Thanks for the review!
Too bad the interior luxuries have been neutered so in the US model. As someone from Wisconsin, heated seats and steering wheel are a must.
or you can just warm your car up . . .
@@xL0stKIlah stop settling for mediocrity
@@pantloaded heated seats are completely arbitrary. Never in my life have I thought hmm I wish my butt was warmer. Heated seats are only good for potential spills which obviously also creates extra potential problems. Uneccesary tech in cars is mediocrity
@@xL0stKIlah worst cope argument I've ever heard.
@@pantloaded Ok enjoy you cars with retarded screens on top of screens in another screen to the left and ball massagers while I enjoy actually driving shifting gears
I own a 2009 Honda Civic SI coupe in Orange Pearl, and although I believe the new car cannot beat my engine that rev to 8,200 RPM, I do believe the new SI is better looking both inside and out.
Damn the Candian Si is lovely with heated front and rear seats, a heated steering wheel, full digital gauge cluster and that CRAZY sport gauge setting is the biggest change of all, don't forget shift lights.
I’d still prefer an 8th gen si over any other generation. I’ve owned both an 8th gen si and a 10th gen si. The 10th gen being newer was “nicer” as far as what it came with but I love the vtec and the “raw” driving experience of the 8th gen. The newer gen si’s are “better” cars but the 8th gen is a better si if that makes sense.
@@ZFA1738 I own one so I guess it does make sense.
Only good thing about the 8th Si is the k20z3 engine. The interior was awful, the transmission had issues and it didn’t have enough torque for 3000 pound car.
@@agaad22 honestly yeah when people talk about their love for the 8th gen all they can talk about is the engine
@@agaad22 I've had zero issues with my transmission and my car has 189,000 mi on it, I just drove a 2013 FRS with only 94,000, mi and the interior was falling apart, the shifter was not as precise as my civic SI. The interior was not as nice as my Civic SI. I was so happy to be back into my car.
perfect car with a balance of everything you can ask for as a sporty daily car
sometimes i go back to this video because it's informative-- but also the intro LOL
Sonic gray is the color of the air when a jet is at supersonic speeds (when it's traveling faster than the speed of sound).
It is the colour (color) of the air around a jet at those speeds.
Brilliant review guys…thank you!! I agree, I wish Honda was a bit more aggressive on the exterior.
The exterior reflect the realty of the car. The wing looks like an Autozone aftermarket stick on.
@@krane15 Do you mean the rear “wing”?
This channel, Gears & Gasoline, and Savagegeese are pinnacles of youtube journalism
SG needs a revamp.
best intros of any yt channel ever!!
It’s crazy how much less stuff we get in the USA. I was really looking forward to buying one. I guess I will have to wait a few years until Honda gives the Si all the options.
Or just buy Canadian 🤔
@@metintin if you bought one in Canada and brought it to the US would you have to change out the gauge cluster since they use KPH and the US uses MPH?
@@bustysubwaysandy9644 No, you should be able to change that with the same one
@@bustysubwaysandy9644 non you can just change it in the screen's options from kmh to mph if you want to.
@@bustysubwaysandy9644 that's a great question. Considering the gauge cluster is fully digital on the Canadian SI, I'm assuming you can switch between MPH and KPH in the settings. I'll have to check and see (I own the American 22 Civic Touring). If this is the case then perhaps I bought my car too soon 😅
I like that the Si is still only available with a manual 👍
We have the 2016 ex-t and I never stop loving the drive. Just changed her oil and gave her some new filters today.
KILLED the intro!!!! So funny!
10:21 this is kind of why I think the honda city needs to make it way to the states, along with an Si version.
Unfortunately our countrymen have killed the small car in America.
The city is a great car...but not really up to what is expected from D segment sedans like the civic... platform wise- especially in the US and Canada where some by roads are larger than higways in Asian cities . With a bigger engine and some type R suspension tuning, it will be a hoot to drive but will fall flat in terms of highway ride which is what most Americans end up doing. The city as the namesake suggest was and is a sedan meant to be used in a properly crowded Asian city and not on north american highways.
The Fit already died in North America. The City would be a flop unfortunately.
I’ve had mine for a couple weeks now. I drove it from Ottawa to Ajax on hwy 7 and averaged 5.1L/100k lol
How much time it takes you to get yours from the moment you order it ? Just ordered mine yesterday (in Gatineau) they told me it would take anywhere between 1 to 6 months I’m so hyped for it, can’t wait!!
That kind of fuel economy without a hybrid set up makes me want it even more since I go from Ottawa to Toronto pretty often as well.
Oh my , most of your intros are good but this is by far the finest.
Integra!!
Thanks for technical details about rev hang! And what Honda did about it!
Great review guys, well produced also. Well done team
With that intro you guys have officially surpassed everyone else.
Took an Acura to the track, and yet they test drove an SI on a back road in winter. They also gave more details about features than the actual driving experience. Thanks.
Damn that’s one sweet ass Accord!
Wish I could drive up there to do a side to side comparison with my 8thgen it would be interesting to see which is quicker around your track
Make sure you've got "33K Canadian" into your 8th Gen, more of an even comparo. And you'll smoke it too.
@@jacquesc3166 lol I have more than that since I’ve owned her counting mainly major issues she’s in deep. As they say pay to play
Neither are track cars
😭 THAT intro! 🔥- The integrated mirror signals probably aren’t “necessary” here in the states because U.S. drivers don’t use turn signals. 😵💫
Lmao 🤣
I think that was his point.
Ive got the same honda Si, same color but black sign (except for the Si logo). I love it
wow almost 2 million subscribers congrats
Only bit of info I could use more elaboration on is how the steering feedback is. I’ve listening to a little too much carmudgion show and am wondering how modern of a car I can keep to be able to “feel the wheels”. As long as power hovers around 200 I think I can love any sporty car if it has that element
No modern car has it. If you've driven a car that has it you'll know what I mean.
Finally a car I can afford. I drive a 2018 Honda Accord with the 1.5. Put a tune on it and it moves . Couldn't imagine that one on a ktune!
@@EdgeRoofCleaningCanada well, I use a Jb4. Used the highest map 7 and used it daily before I got strapped for cash and had to sell. Abused it for 5 months and no issues other than it'd throw an overboost code and I had to reset it through the app
it's the exact engine out of your accord
@@brokentradgedy yes and it's lighter is what I meant by that
3:36 YESSSS!!!!!! This is everything in a road performance car. More of this
That intro was so brilliant