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    0:31 the transgender movement is indoctrinating our youth
    7:03 I am comfortable sharing bathrooms with the other side
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  • @RayneClouds10
    @RayneClouds10 ปีที่แล้ว +92750

    You should do Trans people vs De-transitioned people

  • @CycloneofChaos
    @CycloneofChaos ปีที่แล้ว +38763

    I have an idea for a middle ground episode:
    Conservative turned Liberal vs Liberal turned Conservative

    • @applefly8
      @applefly8 ปีที่แล้ว +1941

      That would be interesting. It would be nice if they can be around the same age too!

    • @Snookered4568
      @Snookered4568 ปีที่แล้ว +262

      Love this idea

    • @ceeIoc
      @ceeIoc ปีที่แล้ว +764

      Conservatives rarely turn liberal.

    • @waNErBOY
      @waNErBOY ปีที่แล้ว +396

      @@ceeIoc for a reason

    • @noahnordenstrom3175
      @noahnordenstrom3175 ปีที่แล้ว +718

      @@ceeIoc no its quite common.

  • @kodabear6879
    @kodabear6879 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1195

    who keeps bringing blossom back to these debates😭😭

    • @keelymac8651
      @keelymac8651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Honestly ?!!! I just watched another one of hers and in the comments most people were urging them not to bring her back so they must be doing it on purpose

    • @ferwoodz
      @ferwoodz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Fr she’s the worst

    • @MajoDaArtist
      @MajoDaArtist หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who’s blossom

    • @x_n_x_gal9161
      @x_n_x_gal9161 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Comedy gold

    • @gabagool25
      @gabagool25 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      for the entertainmet lol

  • @Pickles466
    @Pickles466 หลายเดือนก่อน +495

    Blossom is actually crazy. One minute she says "Can you provide statistics, if you can't then it doesn't count" and then literally immediately after she says, on the same point, "I don't think you need statistics, its all about lived experience" 🤣

    • @elenawilliams32
      @elenawilliams32 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Blossom also said that if given the statistics they wouldn't believe them anyway as they'd be fudged. (if they were unfavorable to the issue)
      But hey, we're all uneducated. Blossom was the only educated one... According to blossom. 🚩👀

    • @tnmsfl2007
      @tnmsfl2007 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Don’t forget to mention, she kept dismissing and dodging perfectly valid arguments like the race transition comparison. She was like “that doesn’t apply, it’s comparing apples to oranges”. Effing insane. I love everyone, but I have little to no respect for these characters.

    • @Pickles466
      @Pickles466 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@tnmsfl2007 Yessss!!! Literally!

    • @bellaveillard1595
      @bellaveillard1595 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I was looking for this comment!

    • @anon2427
      @anon2427 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Blossom was also completely and factual incorrect on her sports take especially

  • @angelkaate
    @angelkaate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6152

    Blossom is so argumentative and backs absolutely nothing she says with actual facts or statistics.

    • @tokyonobara
      @tokyonobara 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +335

      *he

    • @eleventyseven3742
      @eleventyseven3742 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

      If you're going to respect Blaire White's pronouns, please respect Blossom's

    • @abbysuarez8551
      @abbysuarez8551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@eleventyseven3742At least Blaire has more than 2 functional brain cells

    • @rebeccaspratling2865
      @rebeccaspratling2865 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      That's her brand though. 😂

    • @MartenFerret
      @MartenFerret 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      *he

  • @spilledsalt4862
    @spilledsalt4862 ปีที่แล้ว +19746

    The way Blossom asked for statistics from Amala and than immediately said it isn’t about statistics as soon as she was asked for her own is genuinely hilarious.

    • @SmittenandBitten
      @SmittenandBitten ปีที่แล้ว +742

      Exactly, if it was me I would have immediately laughed.
      And be judged by the host 😂

    • @sabrinamendes9342
      @sabrinamendes9342 ปีที่แล้ว +828

      She keeps contradicting herself. I agree

    • @Lena-ig7jx
      @Lena-ig7jx ปีที่แล้ว +572

      typical hypocritical attitude of a lot of these people. Gina really shone through as a voice of reason.

    • @ghazalsalehian
      @ghazalsalehian ปีที่แล้ว +479

      And the fact that she thinks other people are just simply uneducated

    • @minecraftvvg4250
      @minecraftvvg4250 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      She couldn’t debunk those claims with stats so of course the only thing she could do was bring up that “
      Ok it’s not about stats y’all “.

  • @delanivalles911
    @delanivalles911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +613

    I can not wrap my head around why they keep bringing Blossom to these debates… she can’t answer questions directly and if not all the time almost always diverts from the main talking point. I just want to be able to listen to a proper debate without having someone spew out wtv they feel like saying based on how they feel omg.

    • @amandarios448
      @amandarios448 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Me neither blossom is just insufferable

    • @anceledusstorm7534
      @anceledusstorm7534 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      She?

    • @GneTelevision
      @GneTelevision หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@anceledusstorm7534 don't.

    • @noodle6679
      @noodle6679 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@GneTelevisionhe

    • @KrystalJuffa
      @KrystalJuffa หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Blossom just sounds ignorant lol

  • @laurenisuwu
    @laurenisuwu หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    as a trans person myself, i love how amala is so respectful when she makes an argument. maybe im wrong, but ive never heard her talk over and push aside anyone

    • @SavvyMuhon
      @SavvyMuhon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      She’s super intelligent and gentle. I do not always agree with her but I respect her

    • @raikarichter7678
      @raikarichter7678 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Have you ever seen her shorts on yt? She often seems really judgy and disrespectful. But yeah, she was really nice here.

    • @Disparatist
      @Disparatist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@raikarichter7678Well yes, that is the objective of shorts is to build attention. Often if you go to those same videos you’ll find that she isn’t actually being disrespectful

  • @seijibohn5039
    @seijibohn5039 ปีที่แล้ว +9534

    The amount of times blossom tells someone to be educated while also not being well educated herself is astonishing

    • @koreanbeaulo9529
      @koreanbeaulo9529 ปีที่แล้ว +612

      *himself

    • @clumsy_zebra_97
      @clumsy_zebra_97 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      ​@@koreanbeaulo9529 herself* you don't have to agree but you're still wrong :)

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clumsy_zebra_97 Don't conflate social constructs with biology, by suggesting that trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men
      Your cult narrative is rejected.

    • @nyembezidilema9178
      @nyembezidilema9178 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Africa we don't tolerate such nonsense... Men are men and women are women. Nothing in between

    • @reedharrington6954
      @reedharrington6954 ปีที่แล้ว +438

      @@clumsy_zebra_97 himself*

  • @chileshemwansa07
    @chileshemwansa07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2504

    Blossom literally contradicted herself so many times

    • @tonyajordan2702
      @tonyajordan2702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

      You mean himself. Lol

    • @HapticFrequencies
      @HapticFrequencies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Blossom is not very smart...

    • @henrydavel1440
      @henrydavel1440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      23:28 his team disagreed with him 😂😂😂

    • @blackwinter963
      @blackwinter963 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      That joka said: Do you have statistics to back that up?
      *Next breath: I don't trust statistics. 😑
      🙄🥴🤣🤣

    • @jasminehall9542
      @jasminehall9542 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes he did

  • @staceyvaughn8103
    @staceyvaughn8103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +323

    I really like Roxana, she’s a complete sweetheart and gets her point across with intelligence without snarky comments.

    • @ferwoodz
      @ferwoodz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Yea! She’s so cute.

    • @LittleGreyWolfForge
      @LittleGreyWolfForge หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ferwoodznaw that’s just weird

    • @ferwoodz
      @ferwoodz หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@LittleGreyWolfForge ?

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      She was lovely, very thoughtful and careful with her words

    • @ferwoodz
      @ferwoodz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@once.upon.a.time. !

  • @youramericanflagstore
    @youramericanflagstore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +214

    I know Gina and have for about 10 years. She was my neighbor in the small town I grew up in. Every single person that I know who has met Gina agrees that she is a WONDERFUL PERSON!
    While I disagree with some of what she believes, and I am sure she disagrees with me on many things, she and I have had a couple opportunities to talk privately and each time I only liked her more, respected her more and grew an enormous about of compassion for her struggles.
    On a side note, One thing I found most surprising was Gina's gunsmithing knowledge.... GINA KNOWS GUNS!!!
    I think Gina has an incredible talent to build bridges and will make a huge change that EVERYONE can live with in harmony!

    • @LittleGreyWolfForge
      @LittleGreyWolfForge หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gunsmiths do generally know guns…😂

    • @kehlcassidy9562
      @kehlcassidy9562 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She's a badass! Gina, Roxana, and really elegant ponytail biracial conservative awesome lady [sorry, I'm bad with names...] were so wonderful.

  • @BraziBros
    @BraziBros ปีที่แล้ว +20374

    Blossom: Can you cite statistics to back that up?
    Amala: No
    Blossom: Then you’re wrong.
    Amala: Can you cite statistics to back up your position?
    Blossom: Statistics don’t matter.

    • @sulaykaj7386
      @sulaykaj7386 ปีที่แล้ว +572

      I chuckle 🤭

    • @shaly642
      @shaly642 ปีที่แล้ว +437

      Thats what I was sayinggg

    • @neter8445
      @neter8445 ปีที่แล้ว +431

      😂😂 classic can’t make this up

    • @Ashley-wv1dl
      @Ashley-wv1dl ปีที่แล้ว +329

      Tell me the statistics don’t say what you want without telling me 😂

    • @AnotherEmi
      @AnotherEmi ปีที่แล้ว +214

      I think she asked for statistics because Amala said she believed in science (probably quantitative research) and kept mentioning studies without actually stating how significant the results of those were. Blossom, however, is not basing her arguments solely on quantitative research but also on personal experience and I think she probably values a qualitative point of view more.
      My point is, if you prefer or only believe in quantitative research then you should be able to back up your claims with the actual statistics. But if you lean more towards qualitative research, statistics are not as relevant.

  • @callmetiff1042
    @callmetiff1042 ปีที่แล้ว +7751

    Blossom demands everyone to acknowledge her as just a women and not a TRANS-women, yet when another woman tells her she doesn’t want to be called Cis-woman she refuses that notion🙃 Respect is a two-way street miss ma’m💁🏽‍♀️

    • @redfogwhitefrost2583
      @redfogwhitefrost2583 ปีที่แล้ว +428

      I laughed at the "trans women are trying to erase womanhood" notion as ridiculous years ago. I've since been proven wrong.

    • @ruthadiscipleofjesuschrist1788
      @ruthadiscipleofjesuschrist1788 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      lol! "miss ma'am" cracks me up everytime its said

    • @littlepoodle7443
      @littlepoodle7443 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      The irony of that is how they were calling themselves “biological women” the whole time, which literally means cis-woman.
      I feel like they were on the same page in some aspects, but the language barrier made it seem otherwise.

    • @lolalopez7657
      @lolalopez7657 ปีที่แล้ว +292

      ​@Little Poodle , because we have been forced to have to make that distinction which is ridiculous. These are men who choose to look and live as women and who swear that they are women. SO women are forced to have to say "biological women", to make a distinction. when we shouldn't have to.

    • @katychadd4321
      @katychadd4321 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I think the whole thing would be much more informative without her pressence

  • @LARIJASMINE
    @LARIJASMINE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I actually want to see Blossom and Candace Owens in a conversation 😂

    • @gracekainessie7629
      @gracekainessie7629 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s too weak for Candice. She will chew her so hard and spit her out!

    • @Carolina-iy8xd
      @Carolina-iy8xd หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Omg it would be the funniest thing ever

    • @analeahgotay-heart854
      @analeahgotay-heart854 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      it happened ! Conservative Trans Women Vs Liberal Trans Women !

    • @LARIJASMINE
      @LARIJASMINE 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@analeahgotay-heart854 with Candace Owens ?

    • @analeahgotay-heart854
      @analeahgotay-heart854 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@LARIJASMINE totally read that wrong. I am sorry, i thought you said Blaire White

  • @ryannelson8657
    @ryannelson8657 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    Blossom: It's offensive to not call me by the terms I want to be called.
    Also Blossom: Don't get mad about me using "updated terminology" to define you as a person ("cis"), get mad at Webster's dictionary.

    • @ItsKewl
      @ItsKewl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      literally. like coulndn't she say something like "biological woman" instead of "cis woman"? same meaning but sounds more accurate

    • @bangoouygi6372
      @bangoouygi6372 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ItsKewlalso the person who coined the term cisgender was a pedophile and believed pedophilia should be normalized in society go search up Volkmar Sigusch

    • @IllusionistBeatsOfficial
      @IllusionistBeatsOfficial หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ItsKewl the term "biological woman" is slightly problematic though because it implies being a trans woman is an ideological stance as opposed to a biological one. I'd argue it does make more sense to have a word referring to women who were born female, and a word for women who were born male. It's just simpler and if everyone agreed to the same terminology it would save a lot of time. These disagreements are almost entirely semantic instead of practical.

    • @jadjason6053
      @jadjason6053 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IllusionistBeatsOfficialWell but that‘s how it is. Today‘s definition of gender is a social made up construct created by ideologues.

  • @Banan_31
    @Banan_31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3787

    Blossom really be like ”womanhood is about uplifting other woman“ and then proceeds to do the opposite

    • @carrington2949
      @carrington2949 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      😂😂 😂

    • @beautifullym3863
      @beautifullym3863 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂 Trans women are a joke if I’m being honest 😂😂😂

    • @charliee1087
      @charliee1087 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      My thing is, you can do all of that in manhood too. It’s called being a decent human being.

    • @snailfig7218
      @snailfig7218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Because he's not referring to women HES REFERRING TO MEN.

    • @michaelturley8222
      @michaelturley8222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Blossoms never said a genuine sentence in her life.

  • @jadarahn3509
    @jadarahn3509 ปีที่แล้ว +4193

    Blossom didn't want to be disrespected with terminology but had no problem disrespecting the woman who didn't want to be called cis.

    • @jodicelesteee
      @jodicelesteee ปีที่แล้ว +143

      This!!

    • @CeeJay254Art
      @CeeJay254Art ปีที่แล้ว +79

      So true

    • @ramy8338
      @ramy8338 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      cis is not an insult , ironic when conservatives say trans people are snowflakes

    • @hewanhaileslas1066
      @hewanhaileslas1066 ปีที่แล้ว +344

      @@ramy8338 it doesn’t matter!

    • @jadarahn3509
      @jadarahn3509 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@ramy8338 It was to the straight woman.

  • @leonaenichol9166
    @leonaenichol9166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I love how Blossom tries to call ppl out on dodging when shes the queen of dodgeball 😂.

    • @KaymaR0000
      @KaymaR0000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      having average iq is so illegel in america

  • @someone-338
    @someone-338 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    “Who defined that truth?”
    *biology..? 💀*

    • @ralucapoanta2342
      @ralucapoanta2342 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      According to them you need to ask them about their reality and accept it being yours. Nonbinary delulu.

  • @mary1412
    @mary1412 ปีที่แล้ว +5055

    Blossom: nice dodge
    Also blossom: dodges every question and answers it with something else

    • @puffdaddy69
      @puffdaddy69 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      “Get mad at Webster” Wtf does that even mean? I’m supposed to be mad at a dictionary? 😂 please help us

    • @mary1412
      @mary1412 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@puffdaddy69 make it make sense 😭

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Hypocrites always quick to accuse you of the very things that they are doing themselves.

    • @sharonsmith2771
      @sharonsmith2771 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KingStr0ng transwomen are conmen.

    • @stephaniepayne259
      @stephaniepayne259 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      you noticed that too?

  • @minellasalonen8546
    @minellasalonen8546 ปีที่แล้ว +7095

    I got annoyed by the bathroom question: as I understood it, the conservative woman was not saying that TRANS people in the female bathroom was ever the problem for her. The problem was men FAKING being trans females to get in. She wasn't blaming trans ppl, she was explaining a by-product that could happen.

    • @gnclight2108
      @gnclight2108 ปีที่แล้ว +959

      It’s not what could happen, actually happen recently. In a high school…

    • @catsmom129
      @catsmom129 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gnclight2108 wherever you find humans, you’re gonna find human predators. That has nothing to do with trans people.

    • @Erika-be9hq
      @Erika-be9hq ปีที่แล้ว +415

      I don’t care for the bathroom scenario because people who are bent on committing crimes or taking advantage of people will find a way to do so. By this idea, there will always be a “byproduct” of all situations. Volunteering is an example. A byproduct of allowing volunteers at a school could be approval of people who may want to harm or abuse children. This byproduct argument isn’t a strong one. I’d just rather a woman say that it makes them uncomfortable to share a bathroom with a transgendered woman.

    • @yeilyn24
      @yeilyn24 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@Erika-be9hqBathroom and locker room are two different things.
      Are you okay with both? Or just one?

    • @heatherplaton370
      @heatherplaton370 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      But it was clearly stated that this issue can happen without restrooms being for trans people. It happens either way. Aliyah may not have the “sophistication” of the bi racial girl but it doesn’t make her point less valid. She also explained that she wanted to end that point as it is easy thing cis gender people like to say when that’s not the case.

  • @jaimedelreal7255
    @jaimedelreal7255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    i can't believe this is even a real debate.

  • @StonieBlaze
    @StonieBlaze 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    On a side note Gina gives Mrs doubtfire vibes and I absolutely love it 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @olive9160
    @olive9160 ปีที่แล้ว +4860

    I’m sorry but Blossom is one of those examples of people who ruin things for everyone else. They were trying to have an ADULT conversation and Blossom kept getting upset over people trying to get their point across.

    • @MarshOnWalkOff
      @MarshOnWalkOff ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Safe space time for you

    • @countbrass30
      @countbrass30 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      when you're faced with three people doing the same its tough to keep your composure

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@MarshOnWalkOff As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. Now you know... Cope and seethe if you must

    • @007mooo6
      @007mooo6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      I couldn't even reason what she was saying😔 she kept not answering the questions

    • @MarshOnWalkOff
      @MarshOnWalkOff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachman5150 Bless your heart, you're confused between sex and gender. It's ok. You've been indoctrinated that way. It's sad, really, that you weirdos are so concerned with other people's genitals.
      It's as if you're fixated on them.

  • @missyenglish1
    @missyenglish1 ปีที่แล้ว +5112

    Blossom seems like the type of person to purposely lose an arm wrestle against a woman to prove that women can be physically stronger.

    • @eeee8479
      @eeee8479 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      LOL

    • @veegn
      @veegn ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I was thinking the same during her talking 😂

    • @champigranja1179
      @champigranja1179 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      "You don't know if I am stronger than you". Girl, you could feature Mr. T in a movie.

    • @caitlyncarmona5881
      @caitlyncarmona5881 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@champigranja1179 oh no 🤣 out of line

    • @joyce_zhong
      @joyce_zhong ปีที่แล้ว +14

      “TIS BUT A SCRATCH” energy…

  • @JasmineMcDaniel-ci3wl
    @JasmineMcDaniel-ci3wl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    I absolutely love Gina. So much knowledge and experience to be gained from her.

    • @cultofvapingcat181
      @cultofvapingcat181 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      * him *

    • @amattu8347
      @amattu8347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's also a millionaire

    • @Jacoe413
      @Jacoe413 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@cultofvapingcat181her. The choice to be raised as a male was made by her parents. It's very likely they wanted a boy and ignored the female parts of her being intersex.

    • @I_love_burnt_toast
      @I_love_burnt_toast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Jacoe413 the choice was made by his father because that's the side that dictates the gender/sex of a person. The way he was raised wasn't a choice. You don't raise a cat as a dog, or vice-versa.

    • @Alaa.c
      @Alaa.c 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@I_love_burnt_toast i didn't notice this , tysm

  • @ly_lh09
    @ly_lh09 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Gina was so nice and respectful. Super calm too, she was super well-spoken and I wish we got the chance to hear more from her. Amala and Roxana were great too:))

    • @virgobutcaye
      @virgobutcaye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      amala is sort of putting on a mask; in these conversations she is a lot more respectful toward trans people than she is online. She is a bully. She has bullied random trans creators online who are very kind. For no reason.

    • @ly_lh09
      @ly_lh09 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@virgobutcaye I didn't know that. That's sad. Gina and Roxana still appreciated

    • @cultofvapingcat181
      @cultofvapingcat181 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      * he/him *

    • @virgobutcaye
      @virgobutcaye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ? Gina goes by she her :3@@cultofvapingcat181

    • @ItsKewl
      @ItsKewl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@virgobutcaye what is Amala's user on socials?

  • @itsnemosoul8398
    @itsnemosoul8398 ปีที่แล้ว +9279

    Honestly, we just need a conversation between Gina and Amala. Those two were actually trying to find middle ground!

    • @ava1772
      @ava1772 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      agreed

    • @quackson7532
      @quackson7532 ปีที่แล้ว +419

      Roxana too she was amazing 💜

    • @jeremysmith9694
      @jeremysmith9694 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@quackson7532 haha

    • @Someone-uf6nu
      @Someone-uf6nu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      fr!!!

    • @chucklima4763
      @chucklima4763 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I agree with you but Gloria is confused

  • @missthomas8754
    @missthomas8754 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3572

    Trans people like Blossom will be forever be the reason why the community gets soo much push back and hesitation to acceptance

    • @rachelseo319
      @rachelseo319 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Exactly 😂

    • @faconda4364
      @faconda4364 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

      Exactly! I notice Jubilee seems to pick the worst of us to represent : /

    • @jolasia925
      @jolasia925 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      💯💯💯

    • @kefisher7218
      @kefisher7218 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      transphobia is the reason the community gets push back. hope this helps

    • @yeww406
      @yeww406 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

      @@kefisher7218 behavior like blossom's is one that enables transphobia

  • @AnelaEllaEh
    @AnelaEllaEh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Blossom always whips the race card out when in doubt 🤣

  • @christinanielsen9445
    @christinanielsen9445 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I really liked the way that Amala and Aliya got their points acrossed - respectfully and facts-oriented, and seems so educated and empathetic!
    Blossom on the other hand is just so combative😳 and confronting. She doesnt come across as very likeable.

    • @christinanielsen9445
      @christinanielsen9445 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That said, Im not agreeing with everything Amala or Aliya says.. I very much aknowledge the trans-community!

    • @ariamason9324
      @ariamason9324 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because he's male, he acted like his biological self.

  • @PegasiJay
    @PegasiJay ปีที่แล้ว +6464

    I laughed out loud when Blossom asked for statistics then backpedaled and said they don’t matter 😂 there’s no way.

    • @nicholasclarence
      @nicholasclarence 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      Why can't they live somewhere where everyone is like them and we normal people don't have to coexist with the circus?

    • @jsibley7163
      @jsibley7163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

      @@nicholasclarence very “American” and “freedom country” thing for you to say

    • @nicholasclarence
      @nicholasclarence 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jsibley7163 Very American indeed to state my opinion (free speech). People that are mentally insane should not have a voice in politics. There is zero upside for me or any sane individual. Straight pride worldwide, thank a straight couple for your existence.

    • @breecoward2289
      @breecoward2289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I didnt see her give statistics
      Maybe I missed it.

    • @woodydro386
      @woodydro386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's because they will never win in a facts game. Men won't ever be able to get pregnant. Only women and women cosplaying as men.

  • @SoccerBallerina8
    @SoccerBallerina8 ปีที่แล้ว +5164

    I love how Blossom responded by saying "I would call that dodging" whilst not answering the question asked and dodging the question.

    • @hushdolll5112
      @hushdolll5112 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Exactly.

    • @hushdolll5112
      @hushdolll5112 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Exactly.

    • @VeeVee_Edits
      @VeeVee_Edits ปีที่แล้ว +26

      yup 👁️👄👁️

    • @khrisstake2210
      @khrisstake2210 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😅

    • @kiyohiko222
      @kiyohiko222 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      lmao fr, you gotta love how blossom was like "if u cant throw out the stats we're not doing enough of the work" then was asked by Amala if they could produce stats on how the bone density of biological men changes after they take hormones and if it ends up equaling the average biological woman's levels, but immediately resorted to saying "no its about experience and mY tRUth" (26:58 - 27:35 ) LOL

  • @asiaderrough9724
    @asiaderrough9724 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Crazy how Blossom wants everyone to respect whatever someone wants to be called, yet that woman said she didn't want to to called "cis", and Blossom immediately called her that again... and continued

  • @itsaiysha13
    @itsaiysha13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Blossom pissin me off in every debate 😂

  • @abdullahkuzhan7247
    @abdullahkuzhan7247 ปีที่แล้ว +6041

    Blossom made this very difficult. She contradicted herself multiple times, accused others of doing so instead, she dodged questions and her arguments were so ridiculous. Completely delusional and ignorant. Pure headache. Amala and Gina a pure blessing on the other hand.

    • @lotusgrl444
      @lotusgrl444 ปีที่แล้ว +316

      That is usually what happens whe you do not have any rational basis to back up your position...

    • @DigitalLambchop8
      @DigitalLambchop8 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      I felt bad for her actually. The passion is there but you can tell there's a disconnect in her communication skills. I don't think it was fair to sit her in this discussion. Her experience is 100 percent valid though!

    • @zizzybaby3695
      @zizzybaby3695 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      He is just not making any sense

    • @noth1ngtoseehere
      @noth1ngtoseehere ปีที่แล้ว +169

      @@zizzybaby3695 Respect for saying “he.”

    • @vi891
      @vi891 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      27:21 had me dead 🤣🤣🤣
      Blossom: "do you have the statistics? If not your argument is invalid"
      Amala: "do you have the statistic?"
      Blossom: "no I dont believe in statistics anyway."

  • @liagiba8108
    @liagiba8108 ปีที่แล้ว +5168

    Blossom: "you're dodging the question"
    Also Blossom: *dodges the most questions*

  • @CiciWilson-kj5mu
    @CiciWilson-kj5mu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Roxanas voice is so calming.

  • @bellaw150
    @bellaw150 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    everytime i see blossom in these debates i roll my eyes

  • @plants4ever354
    @plants4ever354 ปีที่แล้ว +9364

    Applaud to Gina for actually trying to find common ground unlike Blossom

    • @LaurenHustedt3
      @LaurenHustedt3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      Or Amala

    • @RoshanDC
      @RoshanDC ปีที่แล้ว +332

      @@LaurenHustedt3 true amala tried to find middle ground

    • @vincentalexander4603
      @vincentalexander4603 ปีที่แล้ว +491

      @@juicysmolliette2852 dude, people like blossom are soo cringe it mentally hurts to hear them talk.

    • @FM-dm8xj
      @FM-dm8xj ปีที่แล้ว +15

      he was defintely a great person.

    • @deneara
      @deneara ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@juicysmolliette2852 no way she was not willing to listen to people opinions she was eww

  • @a.randolph8112
    @a.randolph8112 ปีที่แล้ว +4624

    Blossom is a gaslighter. Amala did exceptionally well with her debate and keeping her composer. I really enjoyed listening to Gina's story. I like her

    • @sophiemitchell8086
      @sophiemitchell8086 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      Him …. They are men . No matter what they do to their bodies .

    • @saikohart3058
      @saikohart3058 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@sophiemitchell8086 why intentionally disregard and disrespect ppl ?

    • @sophiemitchell8086
      @sophiemitchell8086 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@saikohart3058 I speak the truth whether someone likes it or not . They are delusional. It’s simple .

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saikohart3058 Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable.
      Embracing objective reality is to discern fact from fiction.
      There's only 1 kind of woman,and they're all born female. Now you know

    • @hithere5005
      @hithere5005 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I noticed that too. I’m surprised given how difficult it was for to wrangle Beethoven that she was able to keep him under control so well. I mean Bach was so poorly behaved throughout this whole thing, you’d think that lady wasn’t even trying to keep him controlled. Maybe she needs to do a “keeping your composer” lesson for the rest of the people in the room.

  • @Koj839
    @Koj839 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Blossome claiming to be a woman, and yet disrespecting real women and womanhood is unreal. Blossome will never truely understand the beauty, gracefulness, and struggles of a real woman.

    • @batlover2003
      @batlover2003 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s not a competition

    • @elenawilliams32
      @elenawilliams32 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That wasn't a 'competitive' statement by the OP.
      Blossom wants to be acknowledged as a 'woman', not a male identifying as a transgender woman, yet when one of the women said she just wants to be called a woman, Blossom continued to call her 'a cis woman'.
      Blossom only sees their point of view as correct. The only educated person in the room who felt they could explain womanhood to women. The irony wasn't lost on me and thousands upon thousands of others in the comments.
      It's definitely not a competition as women and transgender women are vastly different... And that's okay.

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@elenawilliams32 That dude is unhinged from reality.

    • @elenawilliams32
      @elenawilliams32 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zachman5150 Yes. They think that the majority of us will be 'educated' into believing that men identifying as trans-gender women are the same.
      We're vastly different... Which is stating the damn obvious.
      Statistically over 95% keep their 🍆. The very thing that women don't have. Take care mate.

  • @DieselJT
    @DieselJT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Roxana and Gina seem pure hearted and it was a pleasure to hear from them. Blossom not ao much.

  • @Ruushii
    @Ruushii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3868

    Amala: says literally anything
    Blossom: “and I took that personally”

    • @champigranja1179
      @champigranja1179 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blossom needs urgent therapy. I can't believe that a middle aged adult keeps on arguing like an illiterate adolescent. It's also funny that is the only one who agrees on trans women competing in women's sports. I mean, look at her body, she could feature Mr. T in a movie.

    • @shavaneciagriffiths9845
      @shavaneciagriffiths9845 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      fr😭😭😭

    • @Stanz1lla
      @Stanz1lla 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      @@shavaneciagriffiths9845Agreed, Blossom only spoke out of defense for the trans community mostly, but some of the things Blossom spoke kinda confused me and indulged me.

    • @anyaashcroft1944
      @anyaashcroft1944 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      it is pathetic, honestly

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Blossom? Nah, that's Brock. 💀

  • @danoyse8233
    @danoyse8233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2420

    I get people like Gina. She’s calm and puts a rational perspective on this issue. Blossom seems very defensive and looking for an argument.

    • @Ali-gh6js
      @Ali-gh6js 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      And conterdicting himself with each turn even at the start he talks about schools and drag and teaching sex to kids then he says “well whos teaching kids that?” Thats so ignorant of blossom

    • @jtarantula3390
      @jtarantula3390 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@Ali-gh6jsalso ignorant of Aliya being afraid of teaching kids about lgbt at a young age, eventually they’re going to come across a gay or lesbian. It’s about teaching your kids about letting people love who they want to love and to be respectful and tolerant. As long as no one is getting hurt.

    • @wisefries4205
      @wisefries4205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jtarantula3390 IMO it's not about fear of them knowing about LGBT people, it is fear of no moderation.
      You should be able talk to your own kids about this instead of schools and other children.
      I have seen instances where people in middle school who were "different" from their peers for being straight, or liking certain things that is tied to an opposite gender (e.g. male kids liking the color pink), are being called queer, and they go on to question their sexuality as a result.

    • @duartsy
      @duartsy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wisefries4205I think kids questioning their sexuality is miles better then queer kids growing up feeling alone and hating themselves because they don’t know lgbt people exist. If a straight kid is going to question their sexuality as a result of teaching kids about lgbt the most that can happen is them kissing someone of the same gender and realizing immediately that they’re straight

    • @Lulu-xo9eg
      @Lulu-xo9eg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@jtarantula3390 💀💀 bro this is crazy

  • @IdkFoxii
    @IdkFoxii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Crazy how Gina talked about having both and didn’t talk about it more bc they know it will challenge their minds but I wonder if they cut the convo out

  • @jacksong671
    @jacksong671 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    blossom saying “let’s be very clear” and then saying the most incoherent statement possible is so funny and ironic

    • @MaryKat2
      @MaryKat2 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lmao yes 😂

  • @YanillePVP
    @YanillePVP ปีที่แล้ว +3419

    Jubilee needs to make sure everyone involved in these discussion are articulate and prepared, so tired of seeing bad arguments poorly displayed because no one prepped.

    • @LaurenHustedt3
      @LaurenHustedt3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      This this this

    • @td4700
      @td4700 ปีที่แล้ว +355

      I'm sure they are told about it ahead of time. Some people take it serious and do their research and others only want to speak from a place of feelings or experience.

    • @VegasElement
      @VegasElement ปีที่แล้ว +231

      "Blossom"

    • @Idolbottle
      @Idolbottle ปีที่แล้ว +109

      I think this is more about having an average person’s point of view, so basically not knowing what they are talking about lmao

    • @one-seventeen.rev310
      @one-seventeen.rev310 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Those who dont hold conservative views are never really prepped. It not jubilees fault.

  • @wmak8421
    @wmak8421 ปีที่แล้ว +2921

    Blossom is the epitome of being guided by emotion rather than logic

    • @800cherries3
      @800cherries3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is nothing logical about conservatives

    • @cristynohara
      @cristynohara ปีที่แล้ว +175

      She's so defensive about everything

    • @800cherries3
      @800cherries3 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      @@cristynohara well to be fair it’s because she’s more emotionally invested into this topic. being a trans black woman is probably insanely rough so her feelings are valid.

    • @blessing5891
      @blessing5891 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@800cherries3 why did you have to add the " black "as if other tran races aren't facing their difficulties.🙄

    • @tammy5466
      @tammy5466 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@blessing5891 because being black in America is different from being any other race in this country. There are difficulties that come along with it.

  • @brantpadmore1395
    @brantpadmore1395 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    What these trans people wanted just make up new words and new things and then shame the women into accepting it. This is the most ridiculous conversation I’ve ever heard in my life.

    • @elenawilliams32
      @elenawilliams32 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When Blossom was explaining to women what womanhood means-
      No. Just NO!
      Over 95% keep their 🍆. I don't want to share a locker room with people who have one, no matter how they identify.
      I'm not alone. Just look at Planet Fitness over the past week. The public has spoken.

    • @muchlovewithyou8174
      @muchlovewithyou8174 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly!

  • @bsm8962
    @bsm8962 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I’m at the point in the video where i’m fast forwarding as soon as blossom starts to speak

  • @audrey99yearsago7
    @audrey99yearsago7 ปีที่แล้ว +4457

    i applaud Gina and Amala for really trying to find common ground, that’s what makes a debate actually enjoyable.

    • @robloxian2285
      @robloxian2285 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      no its not 🤣

    • @sabrinamitten1363
      @sabrinamitten1363 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lmao I love your username 😂

    • @alexisnash8105
      @alexisnash8105 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @PipKirby it’s to see the other side rather than sticking to your side all the time

    • @carsonmyers2258
      @carsonmyers2258 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I love how they both were trying so desperately not to start a fight but the radicals on both sides had a problem with it, these were true woman and I love that

    • @stunnedmulletblah9714
      @stunnedmulletblah9714 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexisnash8105 you can't actually miss them. They're very visible and very loud

  • @joshuabertrand9277
    @joshuabertrand9277 ปีที่แล้ว +4521

    Blossom: do you have the statistics?
    Also Blossom: the statistics don't matter, it's about experiences!

    • @HurricaneLisa
      @HurricaneLisa ปีที่แล้ว +323

      Blossom is highly confused! Maybe that’s why…. 🤔

    • @skylar4775
      @skylar4775 ปีที่แล้ว +466

      She accused Amala of dodging when she dodged that question herself. She’s not only confused but also hypocritical.

    • @daniellatroyer3597
      @daniellatroyer3597 ปีที่แล้ว +294

      Blossom made no sense this whole video

    • @nashi._.7563
      @nashi._.7563 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught that. Blossom was being hypocritical several times. Everytime is accused someone of “dodging” she herself was dodging

    • @MsDudette21
      @MsDudette21 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      also love how she thinks the transracial argument isn't the exact same when it is. any reason against transracial is the same for transgender. but that makes too much sense so she just dismissed it

  • @wildewildestrawberries
    @wildewildestrawberries หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Blossom always swerves of topic to maintain control of the discussion.

    • @elitablum
      @elitablum หลายเดือนก่อน

      True male actitud

  • @daus6035
    @daus6035 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Oh Tiffany my heart goes out to you ❤

  • @crazynicesonya
    @crazynicesonya ปีที่แล้ว +652

    Blossom so disrespectful to the opponents, that’s insane. She continues using cis term and it’s so offensive, but don’t you dare to put a label on her, she would call you transphobic. It’s so upsetting that blossom doesn’t care about her opponents feelings, but wants to be respected

    • @Meow-mn8ip
      @Meow-mn8ip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      persona cis promedio:

    • @arizia6199
      @arizia6199 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Meow-mn8ipbut their speaking facts. Blossom is a narcissist and it shows, she is manipulating and gaslighting everyone around her.

    • @marcarce592
      @marcarce592 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those are the types you just ignore.

    • @Lu_os1
      @Lu_os1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Meow-mn8ip u will never be a reall women 😂

    • @Meow-mn8ip
      @Meow-mn8ip 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks, i’m not a woman actually 😜😜😜

  • @arykachrystana6937
    @arykachrystana6937 ปีที่แล้ว +3222

    Blossom asking for statistics while not once providing any of her own sent me over the edge. Amala was such a breath of fresh air.

    • @afkmo1579
      @afkmo1579 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Literally.

    • @harleyhendrix8467
      @harleyhendrix8467 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@oof6205 nope .."he trying to be a her"

    • @harleyhendrix8467
      @harleyhendrix8467 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@oof6205 ok. I thought that that's what you could have meant but then the way you wrote it with nothing else to explain it I then thought that you were saying "her" as in that's what he is so we should respect that and call him a "her".
      So I do apologize. I am so sorry that I assumed that and I should have atleast asked you first.
      So I do apologize

    • @askosefamerve
      @askosefamerve ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@oof6205 Yeah. Her. That's her pronoun.

    • @MrTriple3D
      @MrTriple3D ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harleyhendrix8467 you could have also just read the comment he was replying to?

  • @melissamdillon
    @melissamdillon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So glad to see people just Talk and share their ❤s. I wish this would happen more often.

  • @captain_bong2667
    @captain_bong2667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    im not giving my kid (when i have kids) a phone until they get into highschool or even halfway through school (or im home schooling depending on how the curriculum is in 9 or more years) because i dont want my kid to be indoctrinated from the school systems

    • @virgobutcaye
      @virgobutcaye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there isnt any indoctrination by the school system. the problem lies within you, you dont want your child to be exposed to normal things.

  • @6macanudo
    @6macanudo ปีที่แล้ว +1711

    Blossom is the perfect example of why there will never be major progression with this topic. Blossom is incapable of understanding the difference between facts and reality vs. feelings.

    • @Mamalee
      @Mamalee ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This 🎉

    • @Ash-yt1eh
      @Ash-yt1eh ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Also assuming that everyone is obsessed with genitals, as well as incorrectly correcting people... "the term you mean is cis woman" when in fact the point was that biological females are capable of giving birth. That includes females who transition into men. No uterus, which only biological females have, regardless of how they identify, means there is no way to give birth.

    • @timmywitty1432
      @timmywitty1432 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It’s called narcissism.

    • @hardball4165
      @hardball4165 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Who gave birth to her.....😂😂😂him she whatever 😂😂😂wow

    • @carlyschrock1936
      @carlyschrock1936 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THANK YOU

  • @hotgirlscooby
    @hotgirlscooby ปีที่แล้ว +3322

    as a Trans girl myself, Blossom didn’t represent us well at ALL bc you can tell she wasn’t there to converse, she was there to argue and it just made me upset

    • @alexiswhitfield1796
      @alexiswhitfield1796 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Fr

    • @MichaelClifford2020
      @MichaelClifford2020 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Ur gay don't be delusional! Please save yourself before you lose your SELF!

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Get help

    • @tslilbearshoppe9870
      @tslilbearshoppe9870 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I think she came around. I think she is the type to wear her heart on her sleeve. I am straight by the way. I support all people

    • @jackkeown6370
      @jackkeown6370 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I second that

  • @ElanieBellanie
    @ElanieBellanie หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Roxana's voice is so sweet 🥺

  • @brandischramme22
    @brandischramme22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I wish someone would contact me for discussions like this. I am very kind. I was raised by a gay mom and a conservative dad. I lived very different lives every other weekend. I went to drag shows and hunting camps. I have a very fluid, logical and appropriate voice that I think would be a quick and appropriate for conversation circles like this.

    • @bellemontano
      @bellemontano หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, you can apply for their casting newsletter. The link is at the end of the video. Would be interesting to hear your side of the story.

  • @TheRareCriticalThinker
    @TheRareCriticalThinker ปีที่แล้ว +2436

    “It takes integrity, it takes courage, it takes lifting women up…” you can literally define men this way as well.

    • @hellomotto7169
      @hellomotto7169 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just goes to show the issue is rooted in mental health issues or gender roles.

    • @thatcringeythingyoudidin6t792
      @thatcringeythingyoudidin6t792 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      True

    • @princessarielv
      @princessarielv ปีที่แล้ว +48

      yes of course men can be defined that way but women are oppressed in different more damaging and violent ways than men and with women's movements empowerment is important and women need it more than men its equity for the suffering women have endured

    • @TheRareCriticalThinker
      @TheRareCriticalThinker ปีที่แล้ว +47

      You mention violence, which I get women are at a physical disadvantage. However, violence is overwhelmingly men against men.

    • @carro6171
      @carro6171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      ​@@TheRareCriticalThinker yeah but we get attacked bc they see us as little dolls to "play" with. Rape is much much worse than mens streetfights. I've seen brutal rape victims and what happens later. I would rather have all of my bones broken.

  • @mzsbubblezs
    @mzsbubblezs ปีที่แล้ว +4567

    Blossom is an example of a person that makes it hard to have these conversations with and why many refuse to

    • @KaringtonJeanelle
      @KaringtonJeanelle ปีที่แล้ว +111

      Yeah Blossom Listens to reply.

    • @kathleenmckeithen118
      @kathleenmckeithen118 ปีที่แล้ว +277

      He is so utterly deluded that he cannot be reasoned with.

    • @dnahubs
      @dnahubs ปีที่แล้ว +116

      I agree and I believe that whatever gender Blossom would have identified as she would have been just as difficult to have a productive conservation with because of her "holier than thou" attitude.

    • @DimitriTheBarbarian
      @DimitriTheBarbarian ปีที่แล้ว +68

      He is as much a Blossom as I am a Ballerina

    • @The_fun_fam
      @The_fun_fam ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@kathleenmckeithen118 gross reply

  • @MajoDaArtist
    @MajoDaArtist หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    23:52 everything out of blossoms mouth makes me wanna scream “please take your own advice!”

  • @amberinthebox4462
    @amberinthebox4462 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Blossom needs her head checked. She demands stats. Yet is unable to also give statistics

  • @Cj-jr7js
    @Cj-jr7js 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2564

    Blossom is that person who thinks white straight people are the public enemy. Gina is awesome. Well educated

    • @donovinharris7140
      @donovinharris7140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Lol umm reach

    • @megangosiak1489
      @megangosiak1489 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      ​@@donovinharris7140not really. They were VERY quick to throw in white supremacy. And very quick to discount everyone else's lived experiences.

    • @bauerlikoloki
      @bauerlikoloki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@donovinharris7140you must not have actually watched then, because it’s not a reach.

    • @GangsterInternet
      @GangsterInternet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@donovinharris7140 Certain people can't handle criticisms of their teams to where they object basic observable reality, case in point here

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blossom is also jealous of biological black women. The majority of biological black women are not supporting the "transwomen are women" mantra. This is most coming from straight whites in particular white women.

  • @r2dnl
    @r2dnl ปีที่แล้ว +1518

    Hearing "I've been sexually harassed" and seeing ALL of them waking up it's just the saddest thing I've seen in my week

    • @VeeVee_Edits
      @VeeVee_Edits ปีที่แล้ว +132

      I was harassed in 8th grade by a couple of boys joking about gr0p!ng me (I wasn't touched, but the main boy was an inch from me). it was at YOUTH GROUP. an adult was like 10 FEET AWAY. and SHE didn't do anything about it.
      this all is disgusting. what the heck.

    • @r2dnl
      @r2dnl ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@VeeVee_Edits I'm really sorry that you had to go through this, i hope you are better today, harassment is really a terrible act.
      I hope you're doing better nowadays, peace.

    • @VeeVee_Edits
      @VeeVee_Edits ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@r2dnl it's ok. thank goodness he didn't touch me, he was just invading my privacy and being a jackass with his friends. still, I have it so much better than others. we really need to talk about this more in middle schools.
      stay safe. 🔐

    • @JoshuaMartinez-xe2xk
      @JoshuaMartinez-xe2xk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VeeVee_Edits I wish i could've had a word with him. Not okay. 😤

    • @ThatBigRedBear
      @ThatBigRedBear ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure almost everybody has to some degree. Its messed up.

  • @josephinesybers9981
    @josephinesybers9981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Amala I love her standpoint and I agree with her on many things. Her stand point about women and pregnancy. Yes trans men can get pregnant but they are still biological a female and you can’t change your Chromosomes. I love that she is saying facts.

  • @user-uu4ci8zr2v
    @user-uu4ci8zr2v หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How is Blossom not behind bars.
    The way he she it i don't care is excited about recruiting children for her dangerous movement sent chills down my back.

  • @allyrose7459
    @allyrose7459 ปีที่แล้ว +3676

    I was so touched when Amala acknowledged how much Gina must have struggled throughout her life.

    • @camillakulikova8505
      @camillakulikova8505 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      while actively engaging in rhetoric that perpetuates said discrimination 🤣🤣 she is silly

    • @rusokana3642
      @rusokana3642 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@vikkidonnhave you watched any of Amala’s videos? Lol.

    • @suds-p
      @suds-p ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@vikkidonn I haven’t heard of Amala’s work before but I’m interested in checking it out and learning more about her positions.
      I will say personally, she gave me a slightly bad first impression by the way she went about discourse. Specifically during the statistics conversation about women’s sports. On one hand she claimed statistics were not relevant when discussing how trans women unfairly outperform against cis-women, but then later said there’s “overwhelming” evidence that this is the case so I was confused how she was trying to defend her position.
      And when they talked about gender dysphoria, I was a bit concerned about how she kept pushing the idea of “blind affirmation” which sounded like there should be no conversations with people at all when they feel at odds with their biological state? I could be misunderstanding what she meant though.

    • @aldanfac3404
      @aldanfac3404 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@suds-p In reference to what you said about that statistics, I think she was referring to evidence but couldn’t actually reference the exact statistic when Blossom asked for the statistic on it. I think she then went further asking Blossom to give stats to illustrate how it’s a double standard.

    • @suds-p
      @suds-p ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aldanfac3404 That’s definitely possible. I didn’t want to make assumptions here so when she said stats aren’t relevant I took it to mean that’s what she truly meant.
      If she did have statistics and studies that she understands to support her point, I would think saying “I don’t think that’s relevant” comes off as a weak response personally?
      I will also say, I didn’t like it when Blossom brought up wanting statistics in the first place, because Jubilee debates don’t seem like the best environment to get into the weeds with that sort of thing. Plus, there’s more angles to discuss on the topic of women’s sports outside of just numbers as I think Roxana was trying to introduce.

  • @timsmith4549
    @timsmith4549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3710

    Love how Alyia says she prefers to just be called a woman not a cis woman then blossom argues that everyone needs to educate and learn the trans pro nouns, all the while completely dismissing and continuing to call Alyia a cis woman, respect gets respect

    • @jellirabauke2565
      @jellirabauke2565 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

      I personally think, you should only call a cis-woman cis, when the conversation is about sex. And only when it is relevant. Cis is literally just short for: not Trans..
      But it is annoying to be called trans all day long as well. I often get introduced as: ,,hey, this is my friend, she is a Trans-Girl." And this sucks. And i can just imagine that a cis person feels that way aswell, when they are called cis, without it beeing necessary..

    • @alaska426
      @alaska426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

      @@jellirabauke2565What if we just want to be called biological women?

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jellirabauke2565 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the usage of the 'Cis' prefix entirely useless and irrelevant

    • @indiasounds1335
      @indiasounds1335 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Facts! It’s futile

    • @zachman5150
      @zachman5150 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@indiasounds1335 No! Facts are inevitable

  • @Hulana42
    @Hulana42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jubilee, the title is clickbait. I watched the entire video to see what would be said in regards to periods and womanhood. No discussion of that whatsoever. Not cool.

  • @Kijahlovex
    @Kijahlovex หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love Aliya! Very well spoken

  • @Exxy6965
    @Exxy6965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1543

    Blossom: "Can you provide statistics that trans women have advantage in sports?"
    Amala: "No, there's not enough research done but we have plenty of real-life examples like Lia Thomas. But can you provide statistics about the opposite being true"
    Blossom: "Welll actually, statistics are bullshing, it's all about the experience"
    Are you kidding me? Does she ever watch herself debate? Does she read the comments?
    Either she's completely delusional or doing this for attention.

    • @massivepassive
      @massivepassive 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      FYI, Leah Thomas tied for 4th place. 3 cis gender women still beat the trans woman in that race. That's often overlooked.

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

      ​@@massivepassiveFYI, Leah Thomas wasn't even top 100 as a male, so.... That clearly gave a massive advantage. As a guy, in my weight class if I competed in Power lifting, I wouldn't even place. I could come top 3 in a woman's competition in my weight class. The woman's 400m track world record has been beaten by hundreds of high school boys

    • @Veronica-tk9rl
      @Veronica-tk9rl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both

    • @snailfig7218
      @snailfig7218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can be both, and please stop pretending you forgot that's a MALE, with a self proclaimed powerpuff girl name. HE is no she and NEVER will be. Not ever, even for a broken second. His mic needs to be shut tf off, Permanently. He needs to stop being called to these because his mentality is SMASHED DONE.

    • @wardrums1511
      @wardrums1511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Yeah, he's completely insane. Of course he doesn't make any sense.

  • @ktwiz2666
    @ktwiz2666 ปีที่แล้ว +1239

    Blossom: What is the statistics in that?
    Also blossom: We don't need statistics, we just need feelings.

    • @idkwhattonamemyacxount88
      @idkwhattonamemyacxount88 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I was literally so shocked by that 😂

    • @nerd5
      @nerd5 ปีที่แล้ว

      sounds like youre actually quoting what amala said DIRECTLY before what blossom said lmfao

    • @tigerl21
      @tigerl21 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@nerd5 This also happened in a convo she had with Buck (transitioned male) in another video. He had info and receipts for the issues that were discussed, and Blossom still wouldn't accept it.

    • @nerd5
      @nerd5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tigerl21 then i suppose that's blossom's issue, but in the context of this video, amala did the exact same thing, so it doesn't make sense to hold her to that standard

    • @dapo3538
      @dapo3538 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@nerd5 I think you need to rewatch that part. Amala did not have the statistics prepared with her for the debate but appealed to common sense between the bone densities of male and female athletes and how they are different. Hormone replacement therapy can never rid a biological male of his advantages over female athletes who aren’t on drugs. If Amala had the statistics present she would have presented them.
      Blossom said the statistics were necessary then turned around and said statistics aren’t valid, but instead EXPERIENCE is needed. However Blossom disregarded Gina’s experience as a large, strong male in junior high.
      Blossom also tried to insinuate she wasn’t physically stronger than Amala which is LAUGHABLE 😂

  • @AndreaGonzalez-qf2us
    @AndreaGonzalez-qf2us หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Blossom is TERRIBLE please stop inviting her

  • @GilbyMinaj
    @GilbyMinaj 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Someone hurt Aliya along the way and it shows.
    May she find her inner peace she seeks 🙏🏽

  • @aaronmilburn2788
    @aaronmilburn2788 ปีที่แล้ว +825

    amala's facial expressions whenever blossom talks...💀

    • @clauaome25
      @clauaome25 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Same as mine. 🙄

    • @sm1purplmurderedme583
      @sm1purplmurderedme583 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      me ong

    • @marzipan25
      @marzipan25 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Yeah, Blossom is very delusional and very disrespectful. Example: the women there already told her they don't want to be called cis anything but she keeps persisting that is the correct term. Biological women are just women.

    • @kinariuu
      @kinariuu ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lmao, blossom is annoying as frick, idk why she even asks questions when she already has "answers" to everything. Gina is really wise, she/he really showed me a better light of trans people, cuz gina actaully cares about kids innocence

    • @Shynestarlight2013
      @Shynestarlight2013 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Blossom looks like Lamar James DONT COME FOR ME ITS TRUTH AND WANTS TO BE CALLED A WOman? Lol

  • @chrystalv3414
    @chrystalv3414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1650

    I love the way Amala gets her point across with facts and not needing to be loud or using snarky remarks.

    • @timekabolden5309
      @timekabolden5309 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Love her point of view!!!❤❤❤❤

    • @YoshihitoBLM
      @YoshihitoBLM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She was more poignant in her responses but she's got her problems.

    • @brinnthehuman
      @brinnthehuman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I love the way Amala asks loaded questions (which is a manipulation tactic) like "Do you believe your comfort is more important than the cis women who will be victimized by [allowing trans women to use women's restrooms]?", so that she can make another woman seem more argumentative than she otherwise would.

    • @thebearcouncil8810
      @thebearcouncil8810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@brinnthehumanWhat is a better way of asking difficult but important questions like that?

    • @jraymond1988
      @jraymond1988 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If I remotely agreed with her on anything, I would like Amala. Unfortunately she represents the side of the aisle that makes my skin crawl so I have trouble tolerating her. She wasn't nearly as insufferable as Aliya though.

  • @Busyhriehfjeje
    @Busyhriehfjeje 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please stop inviting Blossom. She’s been disrespectful to others in every single debate she’s been on.

  • @Bmoon8907
    @Bmoon8907 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find it interesting that Blossom constantly says the other side is “dodging” and instead of answering a question directly asked to her that is her reply… aka dodging.

  • @briannatyson6029
    @briannatyson6029 ปีที่แล้ว +4992

    Blossom is speaking from a place of hurt and not a place of logic. I love how Gina and Roxane were able to give there perspective and still be graceful

    • @itskeagan3004
      @itskeagan3004 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      He needed a strong father figure, not to be reaffirmed in being an over feminine male.

    • @bellabeale7376
      @bellabeale7376 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      i only saw women???

    • @itskeagan3004
      @itskeagan3004 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@bellabeale7376 we’re talking the normal biological terms He/she. Rational terms, you know what I mean?

    • @mshoney9301
      @mshoney9301 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      @@itskeagan3004 pronouns aren't biological terms lol

    • @seductiveraven4895
      @seductiveraven4895 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itskeagan3004 transphobic bigot

  • @danaelopez7259
    @danaelopez7259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    Blossom is still clinging onto the male privilege she was born with. 💀

    • @jesusmywholehaschanged
      @jesusmywholehaschanged 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's not a white cis male, so he won't consider it privilege.

    • @Je-suis-en-minorite
      @Je-suis-en-minorite 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      “HE “ was born with.😁

    • @rileythesmiliest
      @rileythesmiliest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Je-suis-en-minoriteSHE is a woman. her gender is female, her sex is male. two different things.

    • @-FSY-
      @-FSY- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no privilege

    • @rileythesmiliest
      @rileythesmiliest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@-FSY- males have privilege..

  • @JanGamex
    @JanGamex 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blossom is the kind of person you wouldn't want to have in a constructive discussion. Legit every time she spoke up 0 progress was made.

  • @Keith-yf9wq
    @Keith-yf9wq 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Men telling women what it takes to be a woman is completely mindblowing to me. We are being mindfucked in America.

  • @spencer6044
    @spencer6044 ปีที่แล้ว +3320

    Blossom saying we really need to be educated when she speaks nonsense is amazing

    • @greggory4604
      @greggory4604 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Blossom speaks so much nonsense

    • @monzus
      @monzus ปีที่แล้ว

      Blossom should use her tulips to stfu

    • @oohEuphoria
      @oohEuphoria ปีที่แล้ว +69

      She should educate herself on wigs

    • @skillbopster
      @skillbopster ปีที่แล้ว +51

      *he

    • @ismaelvelazquez7776
      @ismaelvelazquez7776 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      He it's a he

  • @Millzu
    @Millzu ปีที่แล้ว +2207

    I love Gina and Amala. They’re both very wise, and although they disagree, they’re still respectful towards each other.

    • @stankyt5882
      @stankyt5882 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      They were so respectful in the discussion.

    • @theredcupcake
      @theredcupcake ปีที่แล้ว +107

      and then there’s blossom.

    • @najajohnson1535
      @najajohnson1535 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I feel like they both came to the convo with an open mind but stayed true to their beliefs through the process. It was refreshing in this world. I feel like people have a hard time, making up their minds when it comes to certain things because society is telling them how they should feel.

    • @fable_enthusiast
      @fable_enthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@najajohnson1535 mh I don't think amala is open-minded

    • @najajohnson1535
      @najajohnson1535 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@fable_enthusiast From what I say the conservative women came to the covo ready to listen.

  • @lynnebarnes3840
    @lynnebarnes3840 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sexualization of children by anyone is a crime.

  • @flippaclipanimations1933
    @flippaclipanimations1933 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this video, it shows that people on two different sides can just have genuine conversations and laugh with each other

  • @NewRevelationUniverseNru
    @NewRevelationUniverseNru ปีที่แล้ว +1042

    "I'm not a birthing person, I'm a Mother."
    👏👏

  • @_mila9377
    @_mila9377 ปีที่แล้ว +753

    lol Blossom keeps saying everybody is ‘dodging’ while that’s all she is really doing 😭

    • @Justanotherguy43
      @Justanotherguy43 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      *all he is doing

    • @adriandave9307
      @adriandave9307 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Justanotherguy43 don't know why but it's lowkey funny

    • @BB-dk3fd
      @BB-dk3fd ปีที่แล้ว

      Blossom Blossom 😂😂

    • @iamz_mbie
      @iamz_mbie ปีที่แล้ว

      how to spot someone who believes it's possible to control things beyond your control

    • @7eyesopenwide168
      @7eyesopenwide168 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blossom is insane.

  • @bellaboolovesu
    @bellaboolovesu 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    8:34 blossoms response to this DISGUSTED ME. she basically just said “how are females gonna be victimized by males going in their bathroom”?? common sense, girl!! 💀

  • @mariahpeterson81
    @mariahpeterson81 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Blossom: gets mad someone referred to women who has babies as “biological women” but continues to call the other women “cis gender women” after they asked her not too. Why do we have to conform to your beliefs but you cannot respect ours?

  • @hollywoodundead20
    @hollywoodundead20 ปีที่แล้ว +1550

    Amala sharing absolute factual information throughout this entire segment is so refreshing

    • @oshinofalakoju5749
      @oshinofalakoju5749 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Honestly! I loved hearing her speak.

    • @aedt3
      @aedt3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thoughttt i recognized her

    • @anhuar4142
      @anhuar4142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@aedt3she has a TH-cam channel called Amala ekpunobi

    • @originalprecursor
      @originalprecursor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She majors in disinformation.

    • @liae8818
      @liae8818 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Amala is a highly educated woman, and it makes me sad when fairly uneducated people try to discredit her and what she is trying to say. If you look into her and her socials, you will understand just how incredibly educated she is and how she does not just spat out her own opinions, she only speaks actual factual information. It is so refreshing, as you said, to see someone who isn’t just saying whatever they think can prove what they believe in, and just actually know what is factual, and can back that up. We don’t see that very often nowadays. :)

  • @asianchad8610
    @asianchad8610 ปีที่แล้ว +4013

    Blossom: "if you can't throw out the statistics, we're not doing enough of the work"
    Also Blossom: "we can talk about statistics and research all day long, but it's about experience"

    • @nathankgabi7401
      @nathankgabi7401 ปีที่แล้ว +316

      While ignoring the experience that Gina just explained

    • @theunseen3
      @theunseen3 ปีที่แล้ว +268

      This!!! Then when Amala asked Blossom for statistics in return, Blossom had none. The raging hypocrisy

    • @nathankgabi7401
      @nathankgabi7401 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@theunseen3 it's really mental disphoria mixed with extreme narcissism

    • @shalierjackson6672
      @shalierjackson6672 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      That was the wildest exchange i have ever seen

    • @Beansquee
      @Beansquee ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I caught that too

  • @michaelc1161
    @michaelc1161 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Men vs conservative women. Fixed it for you.

  • @backtobasics137
    @backtobasics137 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I came back here for the drama and for the laughs, keep bringing Blossom back for these debates.