I’m not even a teacher, but for some reason Kenyon saying that teaching 3rd and 4th grade was horrible because everyone thinks their kid deserves special treatment feels really relatable😂
As an ex 3rd and 4th grade teacher I can’t tell you how much I agreed with him. It sounds ugly but you just have to be in that position to understand what these parents put teachers through
Especially when those parents have no healthy relationship with their own sexuality, have all sorts of shame and suppression, judgment and fear from dogmatic religious upbringings
Well maybe we can start by discouraging everyone except parents to teach it and instead encourage parents to teach it. Maybe realizing parents are the first people to teach it, not the last.
@@jeremysmith9694 Parents already are encouraged to teach it, but most Christian parents(and maybe other religions, as well) still don't. Encouraging them to teach it isn't going to solve anything.
So many parents don't, and so many pro-lifers think abstinence-only sex education is the answer, even though that has been factually proven to make matters worse and increase the number of abortions. Pro-life people do not care about fetal lives, they just care about virtue signaling. It's so disgusting.
We're using FLORIDA as the standard? Lolz... better choices? What part of Florida? Maybe key west? I live and teach public school in Florida. These parents are so wrong.
But a professor must know all data can be flawed and be refuted. He believes the science but a smart person always questions the science which thus leads to more research
@@theramzieshow7654 Sure, that’s why you look at bodies of data, not just a single study. You can read papers that examine many different studies - i.e., meta analyses and systematic literature reviews. You don’t just throw up your hands and say, well data can be flawed, so let’s dismiss it. It was a fairly short video, so there wasn’t time to do a deep dive on it. We don’t know what kind of research the professor has done.
Children are more energetic than adults (faster metabolism), so they need to spend that energy somehow. Yet they are sat on a classroom for hours upon hours on end, and get punished for not sitting still when they shouldn't be sitting still. more recess+more gym is needed
Add financial literacy course for high school and basic life skills. Teach kids how to read and understand financial documents, how to make some basic meals, how to make a budget, so many people have no clue on some of those things once they leave their parents.
More classes actually teaching the students academia. My daughter gust graduated with honors and tried to get into the Canadian military but passed grade 10 math test. My husbands co workers daughter in grade 11 says they do not teach math (division etc as they use calculator). Too much politically charged teachers bringing their attitudes and ideology to vulnerable kids.
@@ceeceeroschool's are setup for females, that's not geared towards for real life. Boys are more active and some boys are really hyper and active and they end up getting put on meds to slow them down because the parents don't realize that school is geared towards girls which is unfair to boys. Boys learn different from girls but are forced into learning the girls Way.
@@timmytime0925the comment the law is meant to establish proyection of civil rights. Yes many individuals didnt have civil rights before, but that doesnt imply they were "bad" before, it's an emphasis on civil rights progress, the evolved protections
Teacher: Teaching that some kids have 2 dads Parents: so what’s next, a book about child rape?! That’s such a disgusting comparison he should be ashamed of himself.
I went to high school in a very liberal area not once did they ever mention how to preform sex acts or even dare to show pictures. The sheer ignorance of these parents of what is actually going on in schools is crazy.
This is definitely one of the most infuriating middle grounds I've seen. Conservative parents: You're doing this in the classroom! Teachers: No we're not... Conservative parents: Well, some teacher some where is!
literally so much evidence of teachers doing everything that they said. You also have to understand the way teacher's speak. You had that one teacher talking about discussing different family dynamics in the classroom, and how they aren't going to shy away from a student talking about two moms or two dads. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean they should use that as an opportunity to lead a discussion in class about different family dynamics, which they often do. It is not a public school's place to discuss things of that nature. Reading, writing, math, history, science...these are the things that need to be taught. Not social and cultural norms, which are incredibly subjective.
@@smokedout7129 A few things on that: 1) Videos can be edited to push a point, and many are. 2) Teachers are people, and like with any other profession, there are always a few people who are bad actors or misguided. The "woke teacher" videos don't show if/how the teacher was disciplined, or what led up to the comments being made.
@@cman04 Yeah, so I teach high school, and social/cultural norms come up whether you want them to or not. Taking an inclusive tone when the issues arise is not indoctrination or pushing an agenda. All education can be subjective, and part of our jobs as teachers is to use our expertise to navigate those waters.
“Here is how you can have sex, so you do not get pregnant” I literally see no problem here? Informed youth can make informed decisions. There needs to be sex education for children and teenagers. This will literally save lives.
Exactly like it’s understandable that parents don’t want their kids having sex like duhh but if the teens are doing it and exploring their sexuality they should at least be informed about how to do it safely and responsible
@@Bloooo95 these conservatives are so delusional and completely against educating themselves. Not to mention the audacity they have to try to instruct people on how we should live our lives. Absolutely crazy. I'm glad they're a dying breed.
Literally. Teenagers have been having sex since the beginning of time whether it's allowed or not. No one is telling kids to have sex they are only trying to make something inevitable safe. I mean earthquakes happen but we can just put a stop to them instead we protect ourselves and try to be safe. This is the same thing. If your child is having sex nd you don't want them too then its YOUR duty as a parent to stop them and no fault of an efficient sex-ed curriculum
I just want to commend Mason for being intelligent, articulate, respectful and understanding. He acted exactly how I want to act when discussing these kinds of topics
Delusional parents. As a child I was exposed to so many adult topics that I didn’t understand and couldn’t process. If those conversations took place in a safe and informative way in schools, those things wouldn’t have effected me in such a detrimental way. Sex, drugs, sexuality, racism, it should all be discussed so children don’t grow up with a warped view of the world. I’m not suggesting anything explicit or graphic, just knowledge that those things exist and how to go about the world safely. That knowledge can’t negatively effect a child the way unsolicited exposure can.
And that's the problem with these parents they think that everyone in the world is going to have the same frame of mind/ thinking as them but that's not what's going to happen. When their kids get older they are going to have different experiences and viewpoints thrown at them from different parts of the world that will challenge them but these parents don't see it like that.
THIS. Kids are exposed to many adult and inappropriate topics anyway, and most of the time is the parent's fault who talk about those things at home. The way a kid is exposed to those topics makes the difference, and we all know there are different levels of explaining or introducing topics based on the age of the individual. Teachers are the ones who know how to create a safe space for these topics to be discussed. Unfortunately, most parents don't because they only care about raising miniature versions of themselves.
Idk if you was paying attention to the vid but I’m pretty sure the parents acknowledge that. The problem was the line being cross with these conversation that’s leading it to be more explicit especially with the sex talk. Your the only delusional one here thinking the world revolves around you just cuz you had different experience then the other kids who growing up without the need of schools pushing these conversation who turn out just fine learning these topics themselves as they get older
Clearly you were not listening! It´s a perfectly logical argument to make. It´s always a slippery slope with those progressive ideas! First they ask for tolerance towards gay people but now you are a bigot if you object to kids being in drag shows or surrounded by fetish gear in pride parades! If what he said was so egregious why did not those liberal teachers just said no to his question?!
its funny an everyday parent thinks they know more about education than a teacher does. liek there's sooo much to teach a kid and youre gonna do it all? please. not to mention stuff u dont learn in school but from everyday life. they cant do that if mommy and daddy keep them from interacting from the real world
I’m sorry but those kids LIED to their parents! I’m 22.. when I was in school, it was my peers, literally the other kids in my class or my friends that’s told me about sex and stuff. This was honestly shocking..
You must be privileged growing up in a nice district or something. Like, have you seen the recent issues where parents brought to the school board screenshots of erotica and r-rated material in the ELEMENTARY school library? Like Nah.
@@privacyplease1556 At least in my school, it’s my fellow students that have “enlightened” me on… subjects. Never a teacher though, they’ve all done pretty great, but I live in a pretty nice area though so I don’t know if that affects it.
When the blonde one said "unless you kiss a boy how do you know you are gay"? I have always known, I was always aware, I never had to kiss a boy to discover that part of me. I was out for 2.5 year before I kissed my first bf.
I think you are proving her point. She is saying that kids are being told to experiment. You know what you know. You didn't need to kiss someone of the opposite sex to know you didn't like them. She is saying that children are being asked how do they know they aren't homosexual/queer/bi/trans/etc. if you haven't kissed someone of the same sex. Children are being prompted to try different things rather than being able to decide for themselves. The sad thing is de-transitioners are being shamed when they realize they made a mistake, because someone told them to. Of course, this is not true in all cases. Some transition without being groomed, and then realize they have ruined their bodies. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment.
@kwuagga5484 I wouldn't know, but I have no reason to doubt the woman in this video's story. That is the part of the video that I was commenting on. She could be lying, but I doubt it. Of course, my story is anecdotal, so you can believe it or not, but a friend of a family member went for counselling and was told they were suffering stress from their car accident because they wanted to be the opposite sex. Fortunately, I don't have children in the school system, but I am sure there is more going on than people would like to believe. They are trying to pass a law where I live that bars teachers from telling parents if their children are questioning their sexuality. Once upon a time, teachers keeping secrets from students' parents was frowned upon.
The blonde mom said she didn't want teachers to teach about sexuality and also admitted she teaches her children they shouldn't be gay... that's exactly the reason teachers should teach love and acceptance, so that kids of parents like her don't grow up suppressing who they are and feeling like there's something wrong with them.
These are not just parents Elisha is a conservative radio host called Elisha Krauss who has worked with ben shapiro and others Marissa is the CEO of PragerU, her name is Marissa Streit Shaun Frederickson is the organizer and founder of the freedom revival event, a conservative movement Quisha is the host of the Quisha King show, another conservative opinion show And they're all just repeating talking points they've already spread before
@@lemonpartyfan457 never said they werent parents, said theyre not just regular parents They work, live and practice these conservative talking points every day, they represent them. Its their job to spread propaganda Meanwhile the teachers are regular people with teaching jobs Im saying its not really a level playing field, jubilee should disclose it better If you go to the social medias in the description you just have to see the difference in followers (some of the teachers even had to delete or private their accounts because they were harrassed)
@@TheLofren Thanks for bringing this light. Jubilee should've picked more representative parents or at the very least, disclosed that fact. Regular folks just aren't equipped to dismantle the rhetorical tricks of professional propagandists like Ben Shapiro. Even so, they performed admirably. The prompts and editing seemed fair, but I'll be watching with a more critical eye henceforth.
This conversation is so funny because if you know how public school works, you wouldn’t put your kids there in general. If you don’t want your child to have a communal education, why would you put them into a school system that is literally paid for and influenced by the community. Public school isn’t going to reflect your home, it’s going to reflect the general PUBLIC. if you have a problem, homeschool your kids and stop blaming these teachers, who are government workers, for following guidelines voted on by the public.
Also some parents care about the education system and not just they’re single child. Parents wanna make a difference in the system not let it sit there and rot with the students inside it
Ur now just saying whatever is being taught upon the child, nonetheless the teacher shouldn't be blamed upon just because they're following what the government is ordering them to do. The point that you missed her & what you don't understand is that these public teachers who teaches these stuff DOES not understand how affecting it is to the young students out there. Use ur brain and it's literally common sense.
I agree but I would say, do not make the mistake as a black parent sending a kid to an all white school. My daughter hated her school and the town had an history. I went because of housing and an offer to get on my feet. Should have moved her when I completed with the offer. Just my opinion as a parent and educator. I was watched as a teacher but the kids loved me and how real I was and fair. Teachers hated it.
Your Grace, as a Brit can I just say WOW. The fact that there are real parents out there that are like this is incomprehensible, sometimes I think these are characters in a show because of how ludicrous their ideas and beliefs are. It makes me respect US teachers that have to deal with them so much
As a Brit too, can i just say i really disrespect the political agenda of american education systems. I loved that in UK classrooms teachers stuck to the curriculum, and didnt even admit their political affiliations in respect of political neutrality. We all know american education is one of the worst, no wonder why.
Coming from a conservative family, it was the "liberal" teachers that I felt the most comfortable around and enjoyed their classes more. They never forced ideas or anything upon me, I was just shown different views and have become a kinder and more understanding person than I might've been if I was homeschooled. Also, you don't want kids learning about sexuality or sex in schools and you won't teach them about it, they're going to go to the internet and find out themselves which is even more unsupervised and possibly more dangerous.
Same - I think thats why parents are freaking out. They don't want their kids to access a diversity of ideas, because they want to control how their kids individuate.
As a teen, I genuinely don't think any of these adults know how smart their kids are and how much they know already. If the kids have the internet then the chances are they will have already seen more than you think they ever would have seen. Allowing kids to be comfortable to ask questions when they find out weather that be asking the teacher or parent is what I think is most important.
As an adult (44) , there is 0% surprise that as a teen you think you know more than you feel your given credit for. This is only the oldest and longest trope given between teens and parents.
As an adult, I KNOW that you think you know you're smarter than these adults because that's how most teenagers are...... but I also know that you're NOT smarter that these adults. You still have A LOT to learn and also a lot to unlearn. You haven't paid taxes, paid rent, utilities, health and car insurance, buy groceries for a whole family, raised children, aplied for a mortgage, had a real job, being laid off, taken care of an elder parent or a child with disabilities, balanced a budget, managed a household, dealt with lawsuits, managed a business, hired and fired people, met payroll, deal with zone enforcement, dealt with government bureaucracy, saved for retirement, managed your investment portfolio, understand the health insurance system, the difference between a Roth IRA and a regular IRA, you never had to worry about feeding your children, debt collectors, paying child support when you have no money and could go to jail, custody battles, civil lawsuits, emotional effects of relationships, miscarried a wanted child, taken a child to the hospital, had to burry your own child, planned and budget a family vacation, etc.... There's a shitload of things you haven't experienced that you know NOTHING about.
Thank you! Adults seem to forget just how inquisitive, critical and absorbent children are. They’re not clay you can simply mold. They require conversation. That’s why most kids have a why phase
100% THIS. Many parents seem shockingly unaware of what could happen when they give their kid a smartphone, and even if they don't, how many of their kids' friends have access to the internet via smartphone. Being that the potential dangers of this have been completely overlooked for the past decade, parents need to be more prepared to discuss current things their kids might come across and how to deal with it, rather than blaming their ignorance on teachers or LGBTQ+ people. If kids don't feel comfortable enough discussing things with their parents, it's usually because the parents failed somewhere to provide a proper environment of trust and support imo.
Shauns example of comparing teaching about people from different backgrounds, having different ways of life to teaching kids about paedophilia was wiiiiild!
Except it literally is taught in some schools. A group of LA teachers were literally fired for conspiring to get kids to join LGBT clubs and groom them. It became a public court case. Easy to find.
@@blueglass1163 because i don’t think it is woke nonsense to tell kids that lgbt people exist when science literally proves that sexuality is not a choice and also how studies have proven that same sex couples make competent parents
Why do y'all not put a mic on the person asking questions? I listen to these in the car and I can literally NEVER hear the question and have to rewind and actually watch it. Just put a mic on the interviewer
"how do you know ur not lesbian if you dont kiss a girl?" "how do u know u dont wanna be in a monogamous relationship if u dont sleep around" how do u know ur tired if you dont stay up? how do you know ur hungry if you dont starve?
@@JungleEd17 How did you arrive at that conclusion? They definitely have a difference in opinion and I think it went pretty well, everyone was respectful. They might not have found a middle ground, but I don't think that's the fault of the Conservative parents at all.
@@willow1698 It was the canned phrases that make me say that. If they weren't consuming the same media I'd expect them to use their own words to describe their views and make arguments.
As someone who is gay and was very repressed by religion in the household growing up, it would have been nice to hear my school talk and teach about sexuality and gender.
@@Goodboy77717 That doesn't generally happen. Most christians just don't agree with it, and don't believe it should be taught. 2 billion people are Christians, yet Christianity cannot be taught in school because of "separation of church and state."
As a nursery worker I can confirm that parent overstep their boundaries all the time and I think if they’re so unhappy they should watch their kids at home
I am also sure that teachers overstep their boundaries all the time humans in general can be rude especially when it comes to their children. Let's not act like people that want to hurt kids don't go into industries that allow them to hurt kids there's a reason why there's laws against convicted pedophiles being teachers. For example here in Charlotte North Carolina the leader of the Charlotte business guild. who was pushing for transgender people to go to the bathroom of their choice and locker room was actually a convicted pedophile that was doing just that in the past. There are always bad people that want to exploit children and it's normally not the parents
@@catcowboy6376 I mean I can’t speak for the American workers or parents because I am German and live in German but we need background checks nearly yearly and we study for 5 years to work with kids. And most of the parent trust us to 100% but I think if you have no trust at all to us or normal school teachers then teach them at home.
@@svonjai2169 in America they don't do background checks for example here in North Carolina they don't even do mental health screanings for public school teachers I have an acquaintance who teaches here in North Carolina and is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. I was flabbergasted when I found out but apparently in North Carolina they don't care nor check. I'm sure they do background checks of some sort but the requirements to be a teacher differ based on the institution. We have public schools charter schools magnet schools and private schools all with different requirements. My stepmom could never pass the exam but she did have a master's degree so she taught at a private school instead which she still currently teaches at.
OK, these parents are delusional. The examples they are bringing up are things other students are doing, NOT THE TEACHERS! If you don't want your kid to be shocked about hearing things at school, the it's on YOU to teach them, not just say the world is bad bc another kid told your kid something, that they likely heard from am older student, maybe on the bus, or older sibling, etc, and NOT FROM THE TEACHER. Do they really think teachers gonna pop pornhub up on the screen??? It's ridiculous. I'm 46. I was taught Sex Ed similar to what guy said, but we did a few times, and then got a front seat to "the miracle of birth" in 7th grade bio. If you want your kid prepared, teach em. Don't get mad when teachers have to address something other students have done for the sake of the class. Also, does that one woman REALLY think a teacher posted that "call to find out about sex" poster?? She think teachers are the ones scribbling in bathrooms too? Ffs.
it's funny to me that parents think it's normal to pull a kid out of public school cuz they dont agree with whats being taught even if it's necessary and true. going to school in a way is a glimpse of the real world. youre gonna meet all kinds of ppl and learn how to interact with them. u cant do that if school is at home.
Going to Public school is the definition of living in a bubble. You have class with the same 20 kids every school year, with kids who all think the same, act the same. They aren’t exposed to much. Homeschooling though? My homeschool friends travel the world with their kids. These kids get to experience different cultures, see different places, and actually get to experience the things they learn about. Rather than just sitting in a classroom all day, thinking the rest of the world is just like theirs.
@Erinnn I need you to understand that your comment added absolutely nothing to the conversation. Anecdotes about a couple of friends having traveled the world are not applicable nor possible to the population at large. Neither does your friends homeschooled kid being friendly mean anything to anyone or prove any point.
I think people tend to genuinely forget that we learn pronouns, nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc. in 3rd-5th grade…like this is part of the english language. Like💀
My parents never had conversations about sex, politics, nor religion. I am very thankful to public education for starting the dabate and making me think for myself. It allowed me to talk about these topics with teachers, friends and peers that came from all kind of backrounds and mindsets. If school had never tough me that I would be severely uncultured and closeminded.
Y’all talked about politics and religion? Can you elaborate more on that? I’m very interested since I’m from New Jersey, which supposedly is in the top 3 in the US, and even in college we didn’t go in-depth about those things.
@@aus-li Did you not have RE? (Religious Education where we learnt about different religions, cultures etc.) I'm guessing politics was in high school as well as sex ed
When I was a kid "Sexuality" was never taught in schools. But the biology involved and those classes were required to have a parent's signed permission. The classes were there mostly so you didn't have a school full of pregnant teenage girls.
This is still the case. Parents have the option to opt out of any type of sex Ed. These parents are most likely not as involved with their schools or they would know that was an option.
We are talking about without the pronouns, pride flags hanging in the classrooms etc. THAT is not something parents are being asked about. @@phobiatoybox1536
I don't know if you have children or not but would you want them exposed to things that you yourself don't agree with? Once they become an adult it's different but are you telling me you don't have any boundaries for your children?
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon Technically anyone can have the freedom to think what they want at any age and this shouldn't be JUST respected as an adult. I mean look on this channel, there are liberal kids with conservative parents and conservative kids with liberal parents.
@@MONSTERKILL2013 they/them is like basic grammar you (should) learn in school. I’ll explain it to you. I don‘t know your gender, so to address you I would use they/them, because it’s gender neutral. Example: „@Monsterkiller2013 doesn’t know what pronouns are, so I tried to helped them understand.“ Hope that helps :)
5:50 Bro has no filter no nothing just came out saying "Teaching third-fourth grade was horrible. All these parents thinking their kid was special." WOW. RESPECT MY GUY
I don't have respect for that. He wanted to outline inflexible the environment was in elementary education. There are better ways to do that than call it 'horrible' and antagonize the parents of the kids.
@@phillipandrews8061 slippery slopes aren't automatic and thus it's a fallacy to assume one will occur. It's a fallacy to assume one will occur in circumstance "A" because that was the case in circumstance "B." They *can* occur, but they don't *always* occur. Therefore, using the concept of a slippery slope to make an argument is weak at best. Note that I'm not commenting on the debate topic. Rather, I'm pointing out the use of poor reasoning
@@matthewbeckwith663 the slippery slope argument on its own is a weak argument but with other supporting evidence which there clearly is in this case it’s a perfectly valid point. Saying something is the slippery slope fallacy to undercut someone’s arguments while ignoring the other points being brought up is disingenuous.
@phillipandrews8061 the problem with the slippery slope fallacy, even with "supporting evidence" is that it suggests that no problem can be solved by any means because of the new problem it would create. It is an idea that we should do nothing and uphold the status quo or there will be unseen consequences.
Uhhh no he didn’t. He didn’t even say “scientific”. I re-winded it like 10 times to try to hear exactly what he said. She asked him specifically, twice, what data? and he stumbled over his words and said uhhh erghhh sCiENtiSts
@@jonaswatson533 Sure, but disdain is the refuge of someone who's had enough of your stupidity. It's not like the conservative parents were going to learn anything in the debate - the only reason they're there is because they don't like people learning things.
This discussion is the problem now. There are kids in middle school that can’t even read on a third grade level and the biggest concern is sexuality?? We are failing these children.
These are not just parents Elisha is a conservative radio host called Elisha Krauss who has worked with ben shapiro and others Marissa is the CEO of PragerU, her name is Marissa Streit Shaun Frederickson is the organizer and founder of the freedom revival event, a conservative movement Quisha is the host of the Quisha King show, another conservative opinion show And they're all just repeating talking points they've already spread before
@@shylabradbury9775 I guess you totally missed the part where he said he used to teach 3rd grade and would ask them what their preferred pronouns were.
I felt the same way, glad I don’t have any kids. I can’t imagine having kids that have to share a classroom with students who have crazy parents like these conservatives
As someone going into 8th grade this year, my health lessons in 7th grade taught how to be safe and protected. No graphic or inappropriate images were shown, just how to be safe and consent. They just wanted us to be informed, especially about STDs and possible consequences of unsafe sex. Again, it is probably different in other places, but the way these parents explained sex ed lessons seemed over the top. Side note: Also, was the question not about just sexuality? Why did the parents immediately thought it was talking about sex ed lessons and having sex?
Kenyon strikes me as someone who loves intensely and working with younger kids and seeing them be let down was too much. I respect that he took the time for himself before he burnt out respect ✊🏽
I did but I couldn't deal with parents wanting me to treat their kid more special than the next. I moved on to college age and am loving it. I do choose to love my students but I don't like being told I have to care about people. - Kenyon
I agree. I’ll be taking up this career in a few years after I get my degree & license. His passion just pushes me harder to work for these young children instead of feel discouraged. There’s always gonna be someone that has to do it. I got that same vibe from his as well.
37:55 ok that lady in the pink shirt literally just said the exact same thing the professor did, but when he said it, he was wrong. I hope she can one day watch this and see that hypocrisy at work. 😢
“They need to let me know the questions you ask my kids cause there not going to know how to answer them” Girl even if they told you Your not going to have that conversation with your kid and if you do your going to present a view point which only reflects what you want to believe.
Whether it be the parents or the teachers, the child is going to be indoctrinated regardless. So why does the teacher's viewpoint triumph the parents when that teacher won't be with the child in the next 2-3 years?
@@vincarro5078 just because the teacher won’t be there for more then 3 or more years doesn’t mean there concepts won’t be. I’ve taken classes in HS where the teacher had such an impact on my world view that I still remember them for how they enlightened my view people. Sometimes teachers can be a bit of a reflection of the outside world. When we are younger our world is our parents so children very rarely get the opportunity to see beyond that point and that’s why children don’t know about pronouns or gender and sexuality because heterosexual parents don’t educate on that.
@@LewisJamieson6 he said that he doesn’t have time to indoctrinate your child because he’s trying to do his job. No one’s kid is more special than another when he has 100’s of students to cater to. That’s understandable and real.
He was the worst. "Why is that so" - "because the data says so". Oh ok, then lets cancel the show then, because the data has spoken and no point in discussing it then.
@@Keziah2447178 but hes indoctrinating by default and he said as much. Your kids, as individuals do not matter. What matters is the collective of kids. In order for the collective of kids to be happy, we need to help the most vulnerable or the most historically hurt by society. To help them, we need to create an environment where those kids feel safe. Meaning you have to make sure all the other kids know how those 'special needs kids' need to be treated and why.
Teachers, focus on teaching academics...parents teach culture and morals of their families choosing. Teachers or government are NOT a co-parents, thus have ZERO rights to parent children in any way. They don't pay child support, they don't pay medical bills, they don't feed the children and are not ultimately responsible for other peoples children. Teachers are employees of the citizens and thus should conduct themselves as such. Period.
6th grade teacher here; my students aren’t learning these things from us. They come to school bringing up anything and everything from what they’re seeing on tiktok and TH-cam. A large number of parents aren’t monitoring what they’re looking at so they’re looking at the things these parents are complaining about and so much worse. They’ve lost boundaries around topics we had as students even 15 years ago. They don’t understand why their teacher doesn’t want to hear or answer anything about things to do with sex, drugs, etc. I’m just trying to get through my day and teach them reading skills. They don’t need me to tell them what gay people are or pronouns, they’re learning that on their own online.
Yeah I can imagine the biggest problem here is kids nowadays are diving into the deep dark chaotic chasm that is the Internet. So who has become their teachers at this point it's not school teachers or their parents. It's some weirdo influencer
I think it’s just the nature of being around of kids in general. The internet wasn’t a factor when I was in elementary. I remember a kid showed me the middle finger gesture and I went home and asked me mom what it meant like a normal curious kid. I was showed it in the confines of the school, but the school wasn’t teaching things like that.
@@twister27 so just imagine what some kids may be picking up online and sharing it to their friends at school like the kid who taught you how to flick people off lol
26:26 "Maybe, if there was a teacher who could actually save those children, we wouldn't have so much death" maybe if we had gun control, there wouldn't be the problem that results in so much death in the first place?
To come at this as a religious conservative and say “I need more critical thinking in school” is hilarious. The call is coming from inside the house Shaun 🤣
I like how the discussions between teenagers on jubilee seem to be more civil than most of the conversations involving adults. I feel like people who are more experienced in life go in with a set of values that make it hard for them to try and hear out the other side causing them to react emotionally if someone disagrees with them rather than just asking a follow up question to get a better understanding.
Agreed! This discussion was quite abrasive at times. I didn't come away thinking any of these people learnt anything or changed their minds even slightly. They all seemed entrenched in their views.
Parents don’t realize that there is NO TIME in a classroom with 20-25 students to zero in and tell them you have to choose your sexuality and your gender. Nah you gotta learn how to READ first and foremost because the Bible study ur doin at home with mommy and daddy obviously isn’t helpin those skills one bit.
The way the parents kept bringing up topics that ARE NOT COMMON at all and disguising them as this such big deal... it goes to show they've never actually been on a classroom once they ended their own education.
@@jonathanmork27 Yes, Im not from the US (where youre obviously assuming im from because yall always do that) but Ive visited many times and went to school there for a while, now im a teacher. Your point? And you really think ''public school libraries'' are such a big deal here? the kids will get their information from the internet anyways.
@@jonathanmork27 we're talking about mostly teens or even younger kids. They're not looking for general liberal or conservative ''things'' theyre looking for more precise and specific topics. And the internet doesn't promote the LGBTQ community in a strange way, it just promotes respect which is amazing considering MANY real life countries and places don't show that kind of support, so at the end of the day it helps to balance it out and show the 2 sides of the coin regarding the lgbtq community. Also looking up things on the internet is way better because it decentralizes the information and it helps to have a better understanding of not just your country but the world, which is something VERY weird that the people from the USA don't have. And how can you be so sure the books aren't full of misinformation too? Just because someone who graduated wrote it? At the end of the day these same writers end up sharing their ideas on the internet anyways, so.
Also, who told you to get married? Who told you to have children? Are you living above, at, or below your means do you have a financial planner? Do you have a life advisor or are you just going at it on your own and wondering why things are occurring the way they are?
This was upsetting to watch. Usually I find these Middle Ground videos deeply comforting in a world where people have such a hard time having real conversations with each other, but here, it was painful seeing the groups completely separate on nearly every question. Parents need to have a better understanding of what’s actually going on in schools, not just the anecdotal rumors sensationalist news sources spew outrage over
@@cradx9756 If they aren't working in the schools themselves, observing classes, or actively communicating with teachers and the school board, then they don't really know. Some of them are doing those things and they're aware of the actual problems happening in schools (which I'm not going to deny exist,) but the loudest, most repeated complaints over the last several years have mostly been nonsense recited verbatim from conservative politicians and news hosts who made it up for views.
Yeah, the teachers said several times "we don't teach that" (eg CRT) but the parents just wouldn't listen. It's hard to have conversations with people like that.
Quinta is delusional. I am all for going against the status quo and never let a statistic judge me and my future. But to ignore them completely is different
"Concealed Carry" ... the argument that "students wouldn't know" that a teacher had a gun on them is insane to me. My students would absolutely notice if there was a gun on my person. I have students think its funny to grab my phone out of my back pocket, who mess with the badge clipped to my jeans. We arm teachers, its only a matter of time before we see headlines of school shootings where kids acquired the gun within the school building!
It's not that the parents were given more chances. They took them. I can't even count how many times the teachers were being cut of by a parent. I feel like this video showed a lot of small hints just like that and how parents like them are so entitled.
I cant relate mine told us everything from one bringing up her abuse as a child with another one talking about the new car she bought with pictures of it on the projector for the entire hour.
my psychology and sociology teacher always talked about his family and his life. he was my favorite teacher. his class always felt safe to me because of how open he was.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that guys teacher friend that teaches only Spanish to sixth graders at a PUBLIC school makes over $150k from just this one job.
@@mojoschmee9320 did you even read my comment? He specified that they work at a public school and only teach Spanish. I never said it’s untrue, but that it’s incredibly hard to believe that a public school Spanish teacher makes 150k. Public school teachers in America legitimately make around 30-60k on average
i dont get the parents who trust the teachers to have a gun with them at all times but not to teach them something as basic as sex. A biological function.
When the mom who was bragging about being a Christian was like “I had a family member in the sixth grade get sent to the office for standing up against pronouns” feels like such and exaggeration. I was raised christian. Went to church every Sunday. Youth group every Wednesday. Always the same routine. And if this girl was sent to the principles office, she did a lot more than just say “I don’t believe I was given the wrong gender.” Kids are cruel, no matter how nice and sweet they present to their family.
Yes I am also a Christian, my sister is as well and she is a teacher and as of this school year they are being recorded in the classroom and she has gotten in trouble for even referring to siblings as 'sisters' and 'brothers ' . So school is becoming very extreme on these topics. Keep in mind shes a kindergarten teacher
@Cecilia did you hear that from Jordan Peterson? Because the idea of being criminally charged in Canada for not using the correct pronouns is actually a myth.
"Oh, no! Don't teach my kids that LGBT+ folk can turn out to be normal functioning members of society! They will start to question why our faith even considers it to be sinful nature, or even worse, they may actually feel comfortable in themselves if they are a part of that community! No, don't undo the years of indoctrination our home and church has done! Keep with tradition!"
I think, honestly, no or rather, not yet. I think the issue with actually doing that does much deeper. Our culture still shames a lot of aspects of the topic and not necessarily the same way. Just in the last decade or so has the shaming over the menstrual cycle really taken hold. I could be wrong, in that teaching them together helps solve some of that and am open to considering it. Chicken/egg? Now I'm wavering more :)
That's what I was thinking. The amount of males that know little about the female body is alarming. This is not just sexually beneficial but great for decreasing discrimination. Like think about the instances where men belittle women who are on their period or expect them to be fine after giving birth
Men and women are different sorry you've forgotten that being brainwashed so long by the media but they need to be taught differently because biologically they are different!
its usually only when theyre learning about the unique changes in the sexses that occur during puberty. also maybe so both sexes can feel comfortable asking their teachers questions. uk how kids are lol
the parents: "we can't trust teachers to mold out childrens' mind because they can be bad people" also the parents: "teachers should have guns in the classroom!"
Lmao you purposely twist their words, they said teachers can be bad people, so does every occupation group, what's your point here? They also didn't say the teacher "should" have guns. They simply stated teachers can carry weapons voluntarily if they have gone through necessary training and certification. You are equating two absolute statements together as af they mean the same. I can say the teachers should teach, but when you say teachers should have guns, it starts making no sense doesn't it?
@@calebgao6931 the point is that the conservative parents believe many teachers are brainwashing their children, and don't trust these teachers. But they also want those teachers to be able to carry firearms in the classroom around those same children. Seems kinda doublethink to me.
@@bigmanbob2208 How am I blowingit out of proportions. I'm taking something she said and bringing it into the light. Are you also agaisnt women thinking for themselves?
@@siena1576 I'd say it's debatable whether those women are thinking for themselves here. That isn't a statement about all women (same as the original comment wasn't about all women).
Love to see something backing up that guy’s friend who teaches 6th grade and has been for less than a decade while making “over $150,000” That seems insane
Id say your freedom stops at the tip of my nose. Having a homosexual relationship is not hurting anyone. Pedophilia is hurting the child who is not capable of consenting.
@@charvey2284 no I didn’t. The ideas and concepts are tied between laws. If law is not taught in elementary school then how can these ideas be present in the schools? And keep in mind these are specific laws.
This seems to be another issue where discussion isn’t really all that helpful. These (and many) parents are often working with limited or false information and yet they’re absolutely positive they have it all figured out. No amount of rational discussion or contrary facts matters when someone in a position of ignorance always sees anyone who disagrees with them as unquestionably wrong. You can tell the difference in people who really want to talk and learn, and those who just want to say what they think and refuse everything else.
unfortunately that's a deeper symptom of a much larger problem stemming from corporate corruption (conservative media), individualism to the point of not caring about anyone else (a very American sentiment), privilege (from many different dimensions not just racial), and organized religion tied to political movements that started in the 70s. At the deepest roots, all of this stemmed from greed (power hungry politicians wanting the most for themselves so they create policies to favor their tribe) and racism (having some group be "in" and some group be "out"). Unfortunately greed and racism/other-ism are pretty fundamental human traits so we need to rework society up to constrain them as much as possible.
Yes they're misinformed and ignorant. A big factor is also core beliefs. The parents' answers and statements were reflective of their core beliefs. It's rare for people to change their core beliefs. Generally people will defend their core beliefs even if they're not rational.
Totally, these videos are triggering because the conservative side are always just the most uninformed, ignorant people with zero ability to open their minds to other concepts. I live in a town of small minded people (Yelm, WA) and this just makes me feel like I’m watching city council meetings 🤘😂
"As someone who works with kids these parents need to realize their kids are already exposed to these “topics” from other students and social media." Yes, and that is why Teachers need to step up and put a boundary. Parents have to be able to trust the Teachers to teach a righteous path and even if kids gets misled from social media, Teachers have to stay strong in front of kids to protect them from "social media viruses".
"How can you better represent us?" To me sounded like "How can you promote a single religion over others and how can you better discriminate against lgbtq people?"
If that's what you got from that, it's an issue. Clearly you think all conservatives are against other religions and the LGBT. Not all conservatives are against those differences and not all liberals and democrats believe in teaching children about sex, gender, and race before their mind can even comprehend those topics. You're letting the same hate you claim to despise so much corrupt your rational thought processes.
@@NinthCircleGaming I also didn't mention conservatives in general, I am aware that some of them can be quite reasonable and intelligent, but that I got that meaning from them specificly.
I see it as a war of different ideologies wanting control. The leaders of many of these movements view people in group x, y, and z as the very stereotypes they claim to hate and then go on to perpetuate them. The concerning part is whether it's intentional to keep power or not regardless of which group it comes from.
Public schools are over funded just with bad and corrupt spending that's s going on, along with corrupt unions. Market based schools ate lower cost already proven.
I’d like to see these liberal teachers be caring for once. Like Kenyon literally said it was annoying to receive complaints about their child not getting enough attention. It’s annoying to hear about parents concerned for their child???
I need this but with teachers and kids, because I definitely think parents have next to no idea what actually happens in a classroom and can pull kids out of school if they like where as kids cant
As someone who works with kids these parents need to realize their kids are already exposed to these “topics” from other students and social media.
louder for the people in the back!!!
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That's irrelevant to the question at hand
@@beneficentnature9356 not irrelevant at all, it's completely true
And so teachers should continue to peddle bad ideas from media and peers?
I’m not even a teacher, but for some reason Kenyon saying that teaching 3rd and 4th grade was horrible because everyone thinks their kid deserves special treatment feels really relatable😂
That was one of the best moments in the episode 😂😂
This is so funny
As an ex 3rd and 4th grade teacher I can’t tell you how much I agreed with him. It sounds ugly but you just have to be in that position to understand what these parents put teachers through
It is hard to treat everyone special so I try to just treat everyone with respect.
@@user-ue4xz2jg4n LMAOO
Assuming parents are going to teach children about sex, pregnancy, and birth control is a bold assumption
Especially when those parents have no healthy relationship with their own sexuality, have all sorts of shame and suppression, judgment and fear from dogmatic religious upbringings
Well maybe we can start by discouraging everyone except parents to teach it and instead encourage parents to teach it. Maybe realizing parents are the first people to teach it, not the last.
@@jeremysmith9694 Parents already are encouraged to teach it, but most Christian parents(and maybe other religions, as well) still don't. Encouraging them to teach it isn't going to solve anything.
So many parents don't, and so many pro-lifers think abstinence-only sex education is the answer, even though that has been factually proven to make matters worse and increase the number of abortions. Pro-life people do not care about fetal lives, they just care about virtue signaling. It's so disgusting.
@@karikling6751 "most" is there proof to this statement?
As a student, sex ed is nothing like how the parents are describing it. The kids are learning this from other students or social media.
Literally like wtf
We're using FLORIDA as the standard? Lolz... better choices? What part of Florida? Maybe key west? I live and teach public school in Florida. These parents are so wrong.
Mason is crushing this for the teachers. He's intelligent and measured and understands reality.
The college professor who used to teach kids, has so completely had it with ignorant parents who have no idea what they’re talking about.
I can see why, they all sound like Candace Owens uneducated self
😂😂😂😂 he was so unbothered I love it
FR LMAO he was so tired
But a professor must know all data can be flawed and be refuted. He believes the science but a smart person always questions the science which thus leads to more research
@@theramzieshow7654 Sure, that’s why you look at bodies of data, not just a single study. You can read papers that examine many different studies - i.e., meta analyses and systematic literature reviews. You don’t just throw up your hands and say, well data can be flawed, so let’s dismiss it.
It was a fairly short video, so there wasn’t time to do a deep dive on it. We don’t know what kind of research the professor has done.
I thought I accidentally clicked on a hasan reaction vid LMAO
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True lmao I thought it glitched
Hahaha same I was so confused
LITERALLY HAHAHAH
Who is he?
What they really need to add to school is longer recess / gym time and nutrition class
Children are more energetic than adults (faster metabolism), so they need to spend that energy somehow. Yet they are sat on a classroom for hours upon hours on end, and get punished for not sitting still when they shouldn't be sitting still. more recess+more gym is needed
Add financial literacy course for high school and basic life skills. Teach kids how to read and understand financial documents, how to make some basic meals, how to make a budget, so many people have no clue on some of those things once they leave their parents.
More classes actually teaching the students academia. My daughter gust graduated with honors and tried to get into the Canadian military but passed grade 10 math test. My husbands co workers daughter in grade 11 says they do not teach math (division etc as they use calculator). Too much politically charged teachers bringing their attitudes and ideology to vulnerable kids.
I wish we had that!
@@ceeceeroschool's are setup for females, that's not geared towards for real life. Boys are more active and some boys are really hyper and active and they end up getting put on meds to slow them down because the parents don't realize that school is geared towards girls which is unfair to boys. Boys learn different from girls but are forced into learning the girls Way.
“Who establishes the boundary” - “the law.” That line goes hard
The only issue with it is insinuates that before gay marriage was legalized in 2005 that gay marriage was bad
Yeah the legal law is not a proper standard, lest we forget 200 years ago it was legally and culturally ok to own black people
It was legal to own people and to marry children, at one point.
no, as a parent, no.. it absolutely does not "go hard".
@@timmytime0925the comment the law is meant to establish proyection of civil rights. Yes many individuals didnt have civil rights before, but that doesnt imply they were "bad" before, it's an emphasis on civil rights progress, the evolved protections
Teacher: Teaching that some kids have 2 dads
Parents: so what’s next, a book about child rape?!
That’s such a disgusting comparison he should be ashamed of himself.
Exactly what I thought!
With his uneven hairline, I feel so bad for his kids
i thought to myself "eh, shaun's actually pretty chill ngl." and then that scene came on two seconds later. yeah, he's not very chill.
@@cursed-cat9126 and his embarrassing dreadlocks
There’s always a starting point to evil acts. It happens gradually. There’s nothing wrong with discussing what could be next.
I went to high school in a very liberal area not once did they ever mention how to preform sex acts or even dare to show pictures. The sheer ignorance of these parents of what is actually going on in schools is crazy.
The only time I taught that was in college in my Human Sextuality class because I was a Psychology major
This happened recently in Dearborn, Michigan tho. Parents were protesting the school board for allowing highly inappropriate books in schools.
they are talking about florida.
It’s been recorded to happen across many states
This doesn’t invalidate their experiences.
This is definitely one of the most infuriating middle grounds I've seen.
Conservative parents: You're doing this in the classroom!
Teachers: No we're not...
Conservative parents: Well, some teacher some where is!
So you're ignoring the many videos of woke teachers doing that stuff?
@@smokedout7129 What stuff
literally so much evidence of teachers doing everything that they said. You also have to understand the way teacher's speak. You had that one teacher talking about discussing different family dynamics in the classroom, and how they aren't going to shy away from a student talking about two moms or two dads. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean they should use that as an opportunity to lead a discussion in class about different family dynamics, which they often do. It is not a public school's place to discuss things of that nature. Reading, writing, math, history, science...these are the things that need to be taught. Not social and cultural norms, which are incredibly subjective.
@@smokedout7129 A few things on that: 1) Videos can be edited to push a point, and many are. 2) Teachers are people, and like with any other profession, there are always a few people who are bad actors or misguided. The "woke teacher" videos don't show if/how the teacher was disciplined, or what led up to the comments being made.
@@cman04 Yeah, so I teach high school, and social/cultural norms come up whether you want them to or not. Taking an inclusive tone when the issues arise is not indoctrination or pushing an agenda. All education can be subjective, and part of our jobs as teachers is to use our expertise to navigate those waters.
“Here is how you can have sex, so you do not get pregnant”
I literally see no problem here? Informed youth can make informed decisions. There needs to be sex education for children and teenagers. This will literally save lives.
Exactly like it’s understandable that parents don’t want their kids having sex like duhh but if the teens are doing it and exploring their sexuality they should at least be informed about how to do it safely and responsible
Conservatives: “Abortion is evil!”
Also Conservatives: “Teaching abortion-preventive material is also evil!”
@@Bloooo95 these conservatives are so delusional and completely against educating themselves. Not to mention the audacity they have to try to instruct people on how we should live our lives. Absolutely crazy. I'm glad they're a dying breed.
Literally. Teenagers have been having sex since the beginning of time whether it's allowed or not. No one is telling kids to have sex they are only trying to make something inevitable safe. I mean earthquakes happen but we can just put a stop to them instead we protect ourselves and try to be safe. This is the same thing. If your child is having sex nd you don't want them too then its YOUR duty as a parent to stop them and no fault of an efficient sex-ed curriculum
@@f0ursk1n78 it can also be said as the child’s parent it’s THEIR duty to decide when/where they want their kids to be taught about sex.
I just want to commend Mason for being intelligent, articulate, respectful and understanding. He acted exactly how I want to act when discussing these kinds of topics
I also thought it was cool he was in the Anti vaxxers odd one out video
He’s just an average hasan fan
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Then the average fan is well informed and eloquent.
hasanabi heads woooo
@@dapo3538 OMG THAT WAS HIM?
Delusional parents. As a child I was exposed to so many adult topics that I didn’t understand and couldn’t process. If those conversations took place in a safe and informative way in schools, those things wouldn’t have effected me in such a detrimental way. Sex, drugs, sexuality, racism, it should all be discussed so children don’t grow up with a warped view of the world. I’m not suggesting anything explicit or graphic, just knowledge that those things exist and how to go about the world safely. That knowledge can’t negatively effect a child the way unsolicited exposure can.
SAY IT LOUDER 📢
And that's the problem with these parents they think that everyone in the world is going to have the same frame of mind/ thinking as them but that's not what's going to happen. When their kids get older they are going to have different experiences and viewpoints thrown at them from different parts of the world that will challenge them but these parents don't see it like that.
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THIS. Kids are exposed to many adult and inappropriate topics anyway, and most of the time is the parent's fault who talk about those things at home. The way a kid is exposed to those topics makes the difference, and we all know there are different levels of explaining or introducing topics based on the age of the individual. Teachers are the ones who know how to create a safe space for these topics to be discussed. Unfortunately, most parents don't because they only care about raising miniature versions of themselves.
Idk if you was paying attention to the vid but I’m pretty sure the parents acknowledge that. The problem was the line being cross with these conversation that’s leading it to be more explicit especially with the sex talk. Your the only delusional one here thinking the world revolves around you just cuz you had different experience then the other kids who growing up without the need of schools pushing these conversation who turn out just fine learning these topics themselves as they get older
How Shaun went from having two dads to abortion in high school is actually beyond me
I bet he never heard of teen pregnancy
And there he was going on about critical thinking 😂
It made perfect sense to me. Were you listening?
Clearly you were not listening! It´s a perfectly logical argument to make. It´s always a slippery slope with those progressive ideas! First they ask for tolerance towards gay people but now you are a bigot if you object to kids being in drag shows or surrounded by fetish gear in pride parades! If what he said was so egregious why did not those liberal teachers just said no to his question?!
lmao thats what im saying i was so confused when he said that
Parent: "THAT'S WHY MY CHILDREN DON'T GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOL ANYMORE!"
Teacher: "...and I'm glad they don't."
She really said that, like she thought they’d care about her kids who are completely irrelevant to them… 🙃
If that implies school vauchers and less funds for public schools because the students will witdraw. We are glad
its funny an everyday parent thinks they know more about education than a teacher does. liek there's sooo much to teach a kid and youre gonna do it all? please. not to mention stuff u dont learn in school but from everyday life. they cant do that if mommy and daddy keep them from interacting from the real world
@@MsDudette21 You sound like a pro new world order large government centralized controlled sheep.
Not me reading this as they said it.
I’m sorry but those kids LIED to their parents! I’m 22.. when I was in school, it was my peers, literally the other kids in my class or my friends that’s told me about sex and stuff. This was honestly shocking..
You must be privileged growing up in a nice district or something. Like, have you seen the recent issues where parents brought to the school board screenshots of erotica and r-rated material in the ELEMENTARY school library? Like Nah.
I’m 21 same thing
It’s a different world out there today. If you went to school today, it would be very different now than when you were a kid
Kids are annoying but this makes me want to ask one about their school life. What’s really going on? Spill the tea 😆
@@privacyplease1556 At least in my school, it’s my fellow students that have “enlightened” me on… subjects. Never a teacher though, they’ve all done pretty great, but I live in a pretty nice area though so I don’t know if that affects it.
When the blonde one said "unless you kiss a boy how do you know you are gay"? I have always known, I was always aware, I never had to kiss a boy to discover that part of me. I was out for 2.5 year before I kissed my first bf.
I think you are proving her point. She is saying that kids are being told to experiment. You know what you know. You didn't need to kiss someone of the opposite sex to know you didn't like them. She is saying that children are being asked how do they know they aren't homosexual/queer/bi/trans/etc. if you haven't kissed someone of the same sex. Children are being prompted to try different things rather than being able to decide for themselves. The sad thing is de-transitioners are being shamed when they realize they made a mistake, because someone told them to. Of course, this is not true in all cases. Some transition without being groomed, and then realize they have ruined their bodies. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment.
@@susangraham1203 Teachers are not asking children to "test" out if they're LGBT, this is nonsense.
@kwuagga5484 I wouldn't know, but I have no reason to doubt the woman in this video's story. That is the part of the video that I was commenting on. She could be lying, but I doubt it. Of course, my story is anecdotal, so you can believe it or not, but a friend of a family member went for counselling and was told they were suffering stress from their car accident because they wanted to be the opposite sex. Fortunately, I don't have children in the school system, but I am sure there is more going on than people would like to believe. They are trying to pass a law where I live that bars teachers from telling parents if their children are questioning their sexuality. Once upon a time, teachers keeping secrets from students' parents was frowned upon.
They are stop the ignorance @@kwuagga5484
You were groomed
So they’ll trust teachers to use guns when they’re certified to use guns but won’t trust teachers to teach when they’re certified to teach?
EXACTLY
No one gets certified to teach crt.
@@ceeIoc Yes you do... you need a certification to teach it
@@ceeIoc yes you do tf?
Using guns doesn’t have any biases. Teachers have biases. And they teach those biases. What if you don’t want your kids to have those same biases?
The blonde mom said she didn't want teachers to teach about sexuality and also admitted she teaches her children they shouldn't be gay... that's exactly the reason teachers should teach love and acceptance, so that kids of parents like her don't grow up suppressing who they are and feeling like there's something wrong with them.
These are not just parents
Elisha is a conservative radio host called Elisha Krauss who has worked with ben shapiro and others
Marissa is the CEO of PragerU, her name is Marissa Streit
Shaun Frederickson is the organizer and founder of the freedom revival event, a conservative movement
Quisha is the host of the Quisha King show, another conservative opinion show
And they're all just repeating talking points they've already spread before
Exactly
@@TheLofren thanks for that information, but does that mean they can't be both what you said and a parent?
@@lemonpartyfan457 never said they werent parents, said theyre not just regular parents
They work, live and practice these conservative talking points every day, they represent them. Its their job to spread propaganda
Meanwhile the teachers are regular people with teaching jobs
Im saying its not really a level playing field, jubilee should disclose it better
If you go to the social medias in the description you just have to see the difference in followers (some of the teachers even had to delete or private their accounts because they were harrassed)
@@TheLofren Thanks for bringing this light. Jubilee should've picked more representative parents or at the very least, disclosed that fact.
Regular folks just aren't equipped to dismantle the rhetorical tricks of professional propagandists like Ben Shapiro. Even so, they performed admirably.
The prompts and editing seemed fair, but I'll be watching with a more critical eye henceforth.
I actually agree with the blonde lady saying it’s one of the worst things you can do to someone: make them feel pitied or hopeless
Creates a hopeless, helpless victim
I’m sorry you don’t like kids learning the truth. It’s just reality. It in no way says that kids shouldn’t try.
Uneducated people shouldn’t control education.
They same the same when caring for elderly people: don't do anything for them that they can do themselves.
"who is enforcing that boundary?"
"the law"
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LITERALLY!! like and homie tried to keep going, like bro that was a full stop moment if i ever hear one
It used to be illegal to get married and be gay…laws change
Unfortunately, laws do change.. You’d be surprised.
for real that one parent was so obsessed with the idea of pedophilia… someone check his search history
The laws in California which are decriminalizing sex acts with minors?
This conversation is so funny because if you know how public school works, you wouldn’t put your kids there in general. If you don’t want your child to have a communal education, why would you put them into a school system that is literally paid for and influenced by the community. Public school isn’t going to reflect your home, it’s going to reflect the general PUBLIC. if you have a problem, homeschool your kids and stop blaming these teachers, who are government workers, for following guidelines voted on by the public.
Also some parents care about the education system and not just they’re single child. Parents wanna make a difference in the system not let it sit there and rot with the students inside it
this !
Ur now just saying whatever is being taught upon the child, nonetheless the teacher shouldn't be blamed upon just because they're following what the government is ordering them to do. The point that you missed her & what you don't understand is that these public teachers who teaches these stuff DOES not understand how affecting it is to the young students out there. Use ur brain and it's literally common sense.
I agree but I would say, do not make the mistake as a black parent sending a kid to an all white school. My daughter hated her school and the town had an history. I went because of housing and an offer to get on my feet. Should have moved her when I completed with the offer. Just my opinion as a parent and educator. I was watched as a teacher but the kids loved me and how real I was and fair. Teachers hated it.
@@AJ-ds8jd same goes for white parents, dont send your kids to an all black school.
Respect to the teachers because I wouldn't be able to keep my calm around parents like this
Your Grace, as a Brit can I just say WOW. The fact that there are real parents out there that are like this is incomprehensible, sometimes I think these are characters in a show because of how ludicrous their ideas and beliefs are. It makes me respect US teachers that have to deal with them so much
Thank you and it is appreciated. That day was interesting to say the least.
As a Brit too, can i just say i really disrespect the political agenda of american education systems. I loved that in UK classrooms teachers stuck to the curriculum, and didnt even admit their political affiliations in respect of political neutrality. We all know american education is one of the worst, no wonder why.
I was so angry watching this i feel so bad for there kids!
same, my parents are conservative(traditional) not political way
Coming from a conservative family, it was the "liberal" teachers that I felt the most comfortable around and enjoyed their classes more. They never forced ideas or anything upon me, I was just shown different views and have become a kinder and more understanding person than I might've been if I was homeschooled.
Also, you don't want kids learning about sexuality or sex in schools and you won't teach them about it, they're going to go to the internet and find out themselves which is even more unsupervised and possibly more dangerous.
Typically the complete opposite
You are a typical product iPod indoctrination. Poor you.
Same - I think thats why parents are freaking out. They don't want their kids to access a diversity of ideas, because they want to control how their kids individuate.
@@Codeinecrazy23 for who?
@@coda3223 not true
Isn't it crazy how all these weird instances in classrooms that conservatives bring up I can never find anyone else who recalls such bizarre events?
That’s because you stay watching cnn and a bunch of other liberal crap like the young Turks
Look up libs of tiktok or parent school meetings where they review certain books like "Gender Queer" in school libraries.
@@joespice785 oh no! A book is available in a library! Why don't you burn it
@@joespice785 Mein Kampf is also available in many school libraries, where do you plan on going with this?
@@joespice785 it’s a book😂😂
As a teen, I genuinely don't think any of these adults know how smart their kids are and how much they know already. If the kids have the internet then the chances are they will have already seen more than you think they ever would have seen. Allowing kids to be comfortable to ask questions when they find out weather that be asking the teacher or parent is what I think is most important.
@@mindoablues yes! Age appropriate and ethical is not only a standard set by environment and teachers, but also how the family choose to operate.
As an adult (44) , there is 0% surprise that as a teen you think you know more than you feel your given credit for. This is only the oldest and longest trope given between teens and parents.
As an adult, I KNOW that you think you know you're smarter than these adults because that's how most teenagers are...... but I also know that you're NOT smarter that these adults. You still have A LOT to learn and also a lot to unlearn. You haven't paid taxes, paid rent, utilities, health and car insurance, buy groceries for a whole family, raised children, aplied for a mortgage, had a real job, being laid off, taken care of an elder parent or a child with disabilities, balanced a budget, managed a household, dealt with lawsuits, managed a business, hired and fired people, met payroll, deal with zone enforcement, dealt with government bureaucracy, saved for retirement, managed your investment portfolio, understand the health insurance system, the difference between a Roth IRA and a regular IRA, you never had to worry about feeding your children, debt collectors, paying child support when you have no money and could go to jail, custody battles, civil lawsuits, emotional effects of relationships, miscarried a wanted child, taken a child to the hospital, had to burry your own child, planned and budget a family vacation, etc.... There's a shitload of things you haven't experienced that you know NOTHING about.
Thank you! Adults seem to forget just how inquisitive, critical and absorbent children are. They’re not clay you can simply mold. They require conversation. That’s why most kids have a why phase
100% THIS. Many parents seem shockingly unaware of what could happen when they give their kid a smartphone, and even if they don't, how many of their kids' friends have access to the internet via smartphone. Being that the potential dangers of this have been completely overlooked for the past decade, parents need to be more prepared to discuss current things their kids might come across and how to deal with it, rather than blaming their ignorance on teachers or LGBTQ+ people. If kids don't feel comfortable enough discussing things with their parents, it's usually because the parents failed somewhere to provide a proper environment of trust and support imo.
Shauns example of comparing teaching about people from different backgrounds, having different ways of life to teaching kids about paedophilia was wiiiiild!
He needs to be investigated.
It’s literally allowed in several countries, all he did was point out a flaw in her statement and get her to contradict herself 🤦♂️ woosh
@@Livepunkdiepunk which ones?
Except it literally is taught in some schools.
A group of LA teachers were literally fired for conspiring to get kids to join LGBT clubs and groom them. It became a public court case. Easy to find.
kudos to the teachers i can’t imagine having to deal with parents like this
fr i was getting so mad just listening to them
They literally just have to not push LGBT and woke garbage and parents wouldn’t have a problem
@@florallyclover
Why? Are you mad that parents don’t want their kids indoctrinated to woke lgbt nonsense?
that’s what i’m saying
@@blueglass1163 because i don’t think it is woke nonsense to tell kids that lgbt people exist when science literally proves that sexuality is not a choice and also how studies have proven that same sex couples make competent parents
These parents were insufferable lol
Stop looking in the mirror
@@karankapoor2701 go away
@@ermseh sadly i can't your mum still hasn't called me back
@@karankapoor2701 British
@@karankapoor2701 yeah no one does because no one like you bro you haven’t gotten the hint huh
Why do y'all not put a mic on the person asking questions? I listen to these in the car and I can literally NEVER hear the question and have to rewind and actually watch it. Just put a mic on the interviewer
"how do you know ur not lesbian if you dont kiss a girl?" "how do u know u dont wanna be in a monogamous relationship if u dont sleep around"
how do u know ur tired if you dont stay up? how do you know ur hungry if you dont starve?
For sexuality if you know you know.
What? That makes absolutely no sense. You're comparing two totally different ideas.
Literally, I mean ohh I'm here, just gotta say something, so let's say anything
No sense
@@W42ny would you apply the same logic to straight virgins, how do those straight virgins know they aren’t gay if they never slept with anyone?
I think you just know your sexuality
This went pretty much exactly how I expected.
It went above everyone’s heads that this wasn’t conservative parents vs liberal ones, it was teachers vs parents
If they had picked conservatives with more nuanced views, it might have gone better. It feels like they all consume the same news sources.
@@JungleEd17 it’s a liberal channel. They are always going to rig it, same thing as if it was a conservative channel.
@@JungleEd17 How did you arrive at that conclusion? They definitely have a difference in opinion and I think it went pretty well, everyone was respectful. They might not have found a middle ground, but I don't think that's the fault of the Conservative parents at all.
@@willow1698 It was the canned phrases that make me say that. If they weren't consuming the same media I'd expect them to use their own words to describe their views and make arguments.
As someone who is gay and was very repressed by religion in the household growing up, it would have been nice to hear my school talk and teach about sexuality and gender.
Yes, these topics should be discussed in schools. Acceptance and tolerance should be taught.
@@trungduong4040 So you're OK with schools teaching it's OK to be Christian?
@@Goodboy77717 That doesn't generally happen. Most christians just don't agree with it, and don't believe it should be taught. 2 billion people are Christians, yet Christianity cannot be taught in school because of "separation of church and state."
Totally agree
@@cman04 it's fine to be christian, it's not fine to use religion to justify your bigotry.
As a nursery worker I can confirm that parent overstep their boundaries all the time and I think if they’re so unhappy they should watch their kids at home
Especially on the internet
I am also sure that teachers overstep their boundaries all the time humans in general can be rude especially when it comes to their children.
Let's not act like people that want to hurt kids don't go into industries that allow them to hurt kids there's a reason why there's laws against convicted pedophiles being teachers.
For example here in Charlotte North Carolina the leader of the Charlotte business guild. who was pushing for transgender people to go to the bathroom of their choice and locker room was actually a convicted pedophile that was doing just that in the past.
There are always bad people that want to exploit children and it's normally not the parents
@@catcowboy6376 I mean I can’t speak for the American workers or parents because I am German and live in German but we need background checks nearly yearly and we study for 5 years to work with kids. And most of the parent trust us to 100% but I think if you have no trust at all to us or normal school teachers then teach them at home.
@@svonjai2169 in America they don't do background checks for example here in North Carolina they don't even do mental health screanings for public school teachers I have an acquaintance who teaches here in North Carolina and is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic.
I was flabbergasted when I found out but apparently in North Carolina they don't care nor check.
I'm sure they do background checks of some sort but the requirements to be a teacher differ based on the institution.
We have public schools charter schools magnet schools and private schools all with different requirements.
My stepmom could never pass the exam but she did have a master's degree so she taught at a private school instead which she still currently teaches at.
What does it mean for a parent to overstep their boundaries when it comes to their babies (you said you are working in a nursery)?
OK, these parents are delusional. The examples they are bringing up are things other students are doing, NOT THE TEACHERS! If you don't want your kid to be shocked about hearing things at school, the it's on YOU to teach them, not just say the world is bad bc another kid told your kid something, that they likely heard from am older student, maybe on the bus, or older sibling, etc, and NOT FROM THE TEACHER. Do they really think teachers gonna pop pornhub up on the screen??? It's ridiculous. I'm 46. I was taught Sex Ed similar to what guy said, but we did a few times, and then got a front seat to "the miracle of birth" in 7th grade bio. If you want your kid prepared, teach em. Don't get mad when teachers have to address something other students have done for the sake of the class. Also, does that one woman REALLY think a teacher posted that "call to find out about sex" poster?? She think teachers are the ones scribbling in bathrooms too? Ffs.
How do these parents say, "stop teaching your agenda," while also saying, "I tell my children they can ONLY be straight!"
That's an issue with religion, not parenting.
@Shayla Chaichalad in 2023 that's not a valid excuse anymore
@@ianmilligan8305 kids should not be gay or lgbtq aka delusional parents are allowed to teach their kids teachers shold not influence children
@@ianmilligan8305 so should i change my religion beliefs also cause it’s 2023?
@Yara Alharbi if your religion says that an inate, unchangeable characteristic of a human is a sin, then yes
it's funny to me that parents think it's normal to pull a kid out of public school cuz they dont agree with whats being taught even if it's necessary and true. going to school in a way is a glimpse of the real world. youre gonna meet all kinds of ppl and learn how to interact with them. u cant do that if school is at home.
What is true?
Exactly
Going to Public school is the definition of living in a bubble. You have class with the same 20 kids every school year, with kids who all think the same, act the same. They aren’t exposed to much. Homeschooling though? My homeschool friends travel the world with their kids. These kids get to experience different cultures, see different places, and actually get to experience the things they learn about. Rather than just sitting in a classroom all day, thinking the rest of the world is just like theirs.
@@erinnn5790 sounds like you went to a small school. Weird you would think your anecdotal evidence was needed here.
@Erinnn I need you to understand that your comment added absolutely nothing to the conversation. Anecdotes about a couple of friends having traveled the world are not applicable nor possible to the population at large. Neither does your friends homeschooled kid being friendly mean anything to anyone or prove any point.
I think people tend to genuinely forget that we learn pronouns, nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc. in 3rd-5th grade…like this is part of the english language. Like💀
Don't be so vapid. They're not talking about pronouns, they're talking about Pronouns, and especially neo-pronouns.
@@mojoschmee9320 don’t YOU be so vapid no 5th grader knows what a neopronoun is you dunce
@@mojoschmee9320 dude they’re talking about pronouns. Aka a part of the English language that is completely normal.
@@mojoschmee9320 not a single word was uttered about neos get a grip
@@mojoschmee9320 🤣🤣🤣
My parents never had conversations about sex, politics, nor religion. I am very thankful to public education for starting the dabate and making me think for myself. It allowed me to talk about these topics with teachers, friends and peers that came from all kind of backrounds and mindsets. If school had never tough me that I would be severely uncultured and closeminded.
Y’all talked about politics and religion?
Can you elaborate more on that?
I’m very interested since I’m from New Jersey, which supposedly is in the top 3 in the US, and even in college we didn’t go in-depth about those things.
Wow are y'all bots or something?
People just be lying for like on a TH-cam comment
@@aus-li Did you not have RE? (Religious Education where we learnt about different religions, cultures etc.) I'm guessing politics was in high school as well as sex ed
@@Random-sk6hm Nope. The only thing we talked about was sex-ed, lol; at least the area I was from.
Bro the lady in brown was definitely groomed but the irony it most certainly by a conservative, not a liberal.
When I was a kid "Sexuality" was never taught in schools. But the biology involved and those classes were required to have a parent's signed permission. The classes were there mostly so you didn't have a school full of pregnant teenage girls.
Yep and that's how it should be.
This is still the case. Parents have the option to opt out of any type of sex Ed. These parents are most likely not as involved with their schools or they would know that was an option.
That sounds like a backwards neanderthal world where conservitards rule supreme
That's how it is still. Nothing has changed.
We are talking about without the pronouns, pride flags hanging in the classrooms etc. THAT is not something parents are being asked about. @@phobiatoybox1536
Shaun over here basically saying “yeah I’ve indoctrinated my children and I’d like them to stay that way.” Ok bestie at least you admit it
I don't know if you have children or not but would you want them exposed to things that you yourself don't agree with? Once they become an adult it's different but are you telling me you don't have any boundaries for your children?
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon teach your kids how to think for themselves, not what to think.
@@yum5079 Once they become adults they have the freedom to think whatever they want even if the parent disagrees with them.
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon Technically anyone can have the freedom to think what they want at any age and this shouldn't be JUST respected as an adult. I mean look on this channel, there are liberal kids with conservative parents and conservative kids with liberal parents.
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragonif they don’t develop critical thinking skills from a young age, they’ll never be able to form their own opinions
teachers: how should we address you, kid?
parents: absolutely not
Seriously 😂
they them isn't real, boys are he him girls are she her
@@MONSTERKILL2013 they/them is like basic grammar you (should) learn in school. I’ll explain it to you. I don‘t know your gender, so to address you I would use they/them, because it’s gender neutral. Example: „@Monsterkiller2013 doesn’t know what pronouns are, so I tried to helped them understand.“ Hope that helps :)
@@toniheyder6719 tell me what gender means to you. Because to me it just means sex
@@MONSTERKILL2013 gender and sex are the same thing? i don't remember having gender with your mom last night
5:50 Bro has no filter no nothing just came out saying "Teaching third-fourth grade was horrible. All these parents thinking their kid was special." WOW. RESPECT MY GUY
See that's the thing " my kid is special and should be treated a special way " and when you say it like you did in comment it looks wrong:-(
I don't have respect for that. He wanted to outline inflexible the environment was in elementary education. There are better ways to do that than call it 'horrible' and antagonize the parents of the kids.
@@vicente3j it is horrible to be honest specially when you throw parents like this in the pot , and the obvious crappy pay.
I love Kenyon. I clapped at his responses.
@@morbid_corner cool my guy
OMG.....drawing a straight line between sex Ed and pornography is absolutely absurd. Prime example of the slippery slope fallacy
Except it’s already happening at some schools so…
Are you saying that slippery slopes aren’t real?
@@phillipandrews8061 slippery slopes aren't automatic and thus it's a fallacy to assume one will occur. It's a fallacy to assume one will occur in circumstance "A" because that was the case in circumstance "B." They *can* occur, but they don't *always* occur. Therefore, using the concept of a slippery slope to make an argument is weak at best.
Note that I'm not commenting on the debate topic. Rather, I'm pointing out the use of poor reasoning
@@matthewbeckwith663 the slippery slope argument on its own is a weak argument but with other supporting evidence which there clearly is in this case it’s a perfectly valid point. Saying something is the slippery slope fallacy to undercut someone’s arguments while ignoring the other points being brought up is disingenuous.
The entire conservative argument is a slippery slope fallacy lol
@phillipandrews8061 the problem with the slippery slope fallacy, even with "supporting evidence" is that it suggests that no problem can be solved by any means because of the new problem it would create. It is an idea that we should do nothing and uphold the status quo or there will be unseen consequences.
"what data?"
"scientific."
he said that with an air of "youd know if you had a brain" and i love it
Arrogance is a refuge of the incompetent.
Uhhh no he didn’t. He didn’t even say “scientific”. I re-winded it like 10 times to try to hear exactly what he said. She asked him specifically, twice, what data? and he stumbled over his words and said uhhh erghhh sCiENtiSts
@A_Pie323 bro chill i am one of nine billion people you should not care about the opinion of. live your life n have fun
@@jonaswatson533 Sure, but disdain is the refuge of someone who's had enough of your stupidity. It's not like the conservative parents were going to learn anything in the debate - the only reason they're there is because they don't like people learning things.
This discussion is the problem now. There are kids in middle school that can’t even read on a third grade level and the biggest concern is sexuality?? We are failing these children.
Thank you.
The mum saying “so you’re not oppressed” 28:45 BOILED MY BLOOD??? WHATS WRONG WITH HER
Same!
That was so foolish! I was more than done after she said that.
she really thought she got him w that one😭
It really wasn't the gotcha she thought it was. And she looked so smug after it. Haha.
These are not just parents
Elisha is a conservative radio host called Elisha Krauss who has worked with ben shapiro and others
Marissa is the CEO of PragerU, her name is Marissa Streit
Shaun Frederickson is the organizer and founder of the freedom revival event, a conservative movement
Quisha is the host of the Quisha King show, another conservative opinion show
And they're all just repeating talking points they've already spread before
Jubilee really needs to be declaring when the 'average conservative parents' are actually the literal CEOs of conservative political groups
yeah some of these videos are between one extreme and a group of moderates
Thank you
@@johnplus7069 Fr
@@johnplus7069 I’m glad somebody recognized this
I knew I saw Quisha in news reports and interviews...! She looked so familiar.
Kenyon is the best. Buddy pretty much said, "It's not my job to raise your damn kids. I'm just teaching." 😂
I thought he said” it is not my job to teach your kids. It is my job to indoctrinate your kids”.
But still asks the kids what their pronouns are, sounds like more INDOC to me.
@@jackthomas6952 well he’s teaching adults so 😂😂 im sure they’re okay
@@jackthomas6952 that’s not indoctrination, that’s basic courtesy
@@shylabradbury9775 I guess you totally missed the part where he said he used to teach 3rd grade and would ask them what their preferred pronouns were.
That woman in the pink is the type of person wondering why she never gets visits when her kids move away.
We will see you and your kids one day.I think everything you say and judge above someone will happen to you one day.
I felt the same way, glad I don’t have any kids. I can’t imagine having kids that have to share a classroom with students who have crazy parents like these conservatives
As someone going into 8th grade this year, my health lessons in 7th grade taught how to be safe and protected. No graphic or inappropriate images were shown, just how to be safe and consent. They just wanted us to be informed, especially about STDs and possible consequences of unsafe sex. Again, it is probably different in other places, but the way these parents explained sex ed lessons seemed over the top.
Side note: Also, was the question not about just sexuality? Why did the parents immediately thought it was talking about sex ed lessons and having sex?
Kenyon strikes me as someone who loves intensely and working with younger kids and seeing them be let down was too much. I respect that he took the time for himself before he burnt out respect ✊🏽
I did but I couldn't deal with parents wanting me to treat their kid more special than the next. I moved on to college age and am loving it. I do choose to love my students but I don't like being told I have to care about people. - Kenyon
I agree. I’ll be taking up this career in a few years after I get my degree & license. His passion just pushes me harder to work for these young children instead of feel discouraged. There’s always gonna be someone that has to do it. I got that same vibe from his as well.
@@KCal1213 i loved you!!
@@iloveutubewhileeating thank you Sophia. I appreciate your kind words .
@@KCal1213You we’re amazing in this discussion very very real and unapologetic!
37:55 ok that lady in the pink shirt literally just said the exact same thing the professor did, but when he said it, he was wrong. I hope she can one day watch this and see that hypocrisy at work. 😢
“They need to let me know the questions you ask my kids cause there not going to know how to answer them”
Girl even if they told you
Your not going to have that conversation with your kid and if you do your going to present a view point which only reflects what you want to believe.
Facts!
Whether it be the parents or the teachers, the child is going to be indoctrinated regardless. So why does the teacher's viewpoint triumph the parents when that teacher won't be with the child in the next 2-3 years?
@@vincarro5078 just because the teacher won’t be there for more then 3 or more years doesn’t mean there concepts won’t be.
I’ve taken classes in HS where the teacher had such an impact on my world view that I still remember them for how they enlightened my view people.
Sometimes teachers can be a bit of a reflection of the outside world.
When we are younger our world is our parents so children very rarely get the opportunity to see beyond that point and that’s why children don’t know about pronouns or gender and sexuality because heterosexual parents don’t educate on that.
The black teacher was just keeping it so real I couldn’t help but laugh at almost everything he said 😂
he literally said he doesnt care about the kids. if my hypothetical kid wasnt cared for at school i would be scared
liberal extremist for sure.
@@LewisJamieson6 he said that he doesn’t have time to indoctrinate your child because he’s trying to do his job. No one’s kid is more special than another when he has 100’s of students to cater to. That’s understandable and real.
He was the worst. "Why is that so" - "because the data says so".
Oh ok, then lets cancel the show then, because the data has spoken and no point in discussing it then.
@@Keziah2447178 but hes indoctrinating by default and he said as much. Your kids, as individuals do not matter. What matters is the collective of kids. In order for the collective of kids to be happy, we need to help the most vulnerable or the most historically hurt by society. To help them, we need to create an environment where those kids feel safe. Meaning you have to make sure all the other kids know how those 'special needs kids' need to be treated and why.
Teachers, focus on teaching academics...parents teach culture and morals of their families choosing. Teachers or government are NOT a co-parents, thus have ZERO rights to parent children in any way. They don't pay child support, they don't pay medical bills, they don't feed the children and are not ultimately responsible for other peoples children. Teachers are employees of the citizens and thus should conduct themselves as such. Period.
6th grade teacher here; my students aren’t learning these things from us. They come to school bringing up anything and everything from what they’re seeing on tiktok and TH-cam. A large number of parents aren’t monitoring what they’re looking at so they’re looking at the things these parents are complaining about and so much worse. They’ve lost boundaries around topics we had as students even 15 years ago. They don’t understand why their teacher doesn’t want to hear or answer anything about things to do with sex, drugs, etc.
I’m just trying to get through my day and teach them reading skills. They don’t need me to tell them what gay people are or pronouns, they’re learning that on their own online.
Yeah I can imagine the biggest problem here is kids nowadays are diving into the deep dark chaotic chasm that is the Internet. So who has become their teachers at this point it's not school teachers or their parents. It's some weirdo influencer
I think it’s just the nature of being around of kids in general. The internet wasn’t a factor when I was in elementary. I remember a kid showed me the middle finger gesture and I went home and asked me mom what it meant like a normal curious kid. I was showed it in the confines of the school, but the school wasn’t teaching things like that.
Indeed. I notice a raise of attention and emotional regulation issues because parents failed to monitor what their kids watch on media and internet.
Thank You for being an actual Teacher.
@@twister27 so just imagine what some kids may be picking up online and sharing it to their friends at school like the kid who taught you how to flick people off lol
26:26 "Maybe, if there was a teacher who could actually save those children, we wouldn't have so much death" maybe if we had gun control, there wouldn't be the problem that results in so much death in the first place?
Literally. 400 armed police in Uvalde all huddled around an unlocked door. There were enough guns on site. Nothing happened.
To come at this as a religious conservative and say “I need more critical thinking in school” is hilarious. The call is coming from inside the house Shaun 🤣
Not really sure if this counts as a cultural shock, but the fact that these parents want guns in the classroom is absolutely crazy to me.
It could help the gun problem going on but at the same time it could make it worse... Schools just need better security tbh
@@tacobell1299 just ban the guns
@@Jinglism8 It’s not that simple. I doubt guns will ever go away in the U.S it’s in the second amendment.
@@Jinglism8 Horray, now only criminals have guns!
@@tacobell1299 Allowing teachers to have guns in the classroom doesn't treat the root of the problem.
High school teacher here… I can barely get my kids to put their name on their papers, do you think I can sway their political beliefs? No.
My daughter is 4 and writes her name on every piece of paper 😂
So you don't live in commiefornia. Nice.
What percentage of these kids that can’t even put their name on their paper pass your class?
@@Ultramiles206 THIS
@@Ultramiles206 Look into it. Kids are performing worse than ever in schools because their parents don't do ANYTHING
I like how the discussions between teenagers on jubilee seem to be more civil than most of the conversations involving adults. I feel like people who are more experienced in life go in with a set of values that make it hard for them to try and hear out the other side causing them to react emotionally if someone disagrees with them rather than just asking a follow up question to get a better understanding.
Agreed! This discussion was quite abrasive at times. I didn't come away thinking any of these people learnt anything or changed their minds even slightly. They all seemed entrenched in their views.
The republican blonde woman is a conservative talking point for Prager u. She has a conservative agenda
Parents don’t realize that there is NO TIME in a classroom with 20-25 students to zero in and tell them you have to choose your sexuality and your gender. Nah you gotta learn how to READ first and foremost because the Bible study ur doin at home with mommy and daddy obviously isn’t helpin those skills one bit.
I love seeing some of these people walk STRAIGHT into the point and still somehow miss it
The way the parents kept bringing up topics that ARE NOT COMMON at all and disguising them as this such big deal... it goes to show they've never actually been on a classroom once they ended their own education.
@@jonathanmork27 Yes, Im not from the US (where youre obviously assuming im from because yall always do that) but Ive visited many times and went to school there for a while, now im a teacher. Your point? And you really think ''public school libraries'' are such a big deal here? the kids will get their information from the internet anyways.
@@jonathanmork27 we're talking about mostly teens or even younger kids. They're not looking for general liberal or conservative ''things'' theyre looking for more precise and specific topics. And the internet doesn't promote the LGBTQ community in a strange way, it just promotes respect which is amazing considering MANY real life countries and places don't show that kind of support, so at the end of the day it helps to balance it out and show the 2 sides of the coin regarding the lgbtq community. Also looking up things on the internet is way better because it decentralizes the information and it helps to have a better understanding of not just your country but the world, which is something VERY weird that the people from the USA don't have. And how can you be so sure the books aren't full of misinformation too? Just because someone who graduated wrote it? At the end of the day these same writers end up sharing their ideas on the internet anyways, so.
these parents are genuinely delusional…
That's a stretch
@@figurinereview no u u
@@jeremysmith9694especially pink shirt she's something else
I'm a liberal and no they aren't they had some points just like the teachers this is why we never get anywhere in are country
@@larrysommers188 🧢
This really makes me want to see a video where they let people who grew up homeschooled have a discussion with people who went to public school
I grew up homeschooled. That could be interesting.
I would love to see this topic
And also people from private schools
THIS!!!
I grew up homeschooled, but went to public school in high school! This would be an interesting conversation!
Also, who told you to get married? Who told you to have children? Are you living above, at, or below your means do you have a financial planner? Do you have a life advisor or are you just going at it on your own and wondering why things are occurring the way they are?
This was upsetting to watch. Usually I find these Middle Ground videos deeply comforting in a world where people have such a hard time having real conversations with each other, but here, it was painful seeing the groups completely separate on nearly every question. Parents need to have a better understanding of what’s actually going on in schools, not just the anecdotal rumors sensationalist news sources spew outrage over
Or, alternatively, they do know what is "actually going on in schools" and that is why they are outraged.
@@cradx9756 If they aren't working in the schools themselves, observing classes, or actively communicating with teachers and the school board, then they don't really know. Some of them are doing those things and they're aware of the actual problems happening in schools (which I'm not going to deny exist,) but the loudest, most repeated complaints over the last several years have mostly been nonsense recited verbatim from conservative politicians and news hosts who made it up for views.
@@jeremoople i guess if we wanna write off everything we don't like as conservative nonsense then we can pretend it doesn't actually happen
Yeah, the teachers said several times "we don't teach that" (eg CRT) but the parents just wouldn't listen. It's hard to have conversations with people like that.
@@Paul2377 well if they said it then it must be true!
I do not want ANY teacher teaching about sex, NONE. That is a parents job.
Quinta is delusional. I am all for going against the status quo and never let a statistic judge me and my future. But to ignore them completely is different
"Concealed Carry" ... the argument that "students wouldn't know" that a teacher had a gun on them is insane to me. My students would absolutely notice if there was a gun on my person. I have students think its funny to grab my phone out of my back pocket, who mess with the badge clipped to my jeans. We arm teachers, its only a matter of time before we see headlines of school shootings where kids acquired the gun within the school building!
I just keep thinking about the kids who didnt have access to a gun who now not only have access to one but their already in school as well
The parents got a chance to talk way more than the teachers. I’m disappointed in that.
It's not that the parents were given more chances. They took them. I can't even count how many times the teachers were being cut of by a parent. I feel like this video showed a lot of small hints just like that and how parents like them are so entitled.
They're so loud and wrong, it's really embarrassing.
@@Tenseiken_ Well also all of the statements were something the parents would agree with so they got to sit down and have their own discussion first
in health in texas i’ve never seen anything being demonstrated, u also have to sign if u want ur kids to know about sex ed
My teachers would just say “WE DO NOT DISCUSS OUR PERSONAL LIVES IN MY CLASS. LETS GET TO WORK!” 😂
Same!
I cant relate mine told us everything from one bringing up her abuse as a child with another one talking about the new car she bought with pictures of it on the projector for the entire hour.
WE NEED THAT😭🙏🏽
@@Jurassic_Jews Sounds like a cool teacher.
my psychology and sociology teacher always talked about his family and his life. he was my favorite teacher. his class always felt safe to me because of how open he was.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that guys teacher friend that teaches only Spanish to sixth graders at a PUBLIC school makes over $150k from just this one job.
Doesn't make it untrue. Teachers can do very well, especially at private schools.
@@mojoschmee9320 did you even read my comment? He specified that they work at a public school and only teach Spanish. I never said it’s untrue, but that it’s incredibly hard to believe that a public school Spanish teacher makes 150k. Public school teachers in America legitimately make around 30-60k on average
Maybe if he lived in San Francisco but 150k there is nothing.
i dont get the parents who trust the teachers to have a gun with them at all times but not to teach them something as basic as sex. A biological function.
Jubilee: asks about sexuality
Parents: talks about pronouns
knowledge should come before judgement, sexuality and pronouns are unrelated.
When the mom who was bragging about being a Christian was like “I had a family member in the sixth grade get sent to the office for standing up against pronouns” feels like such and exaggeration. I was raised christian. Went to church every Sunday. Youth group every Wednesday. Always the same routine. And if this girl was sent to the principles office, she did a lot more than just say “I don’t believe I was given the wrong gender.” Kids are cruel, no matter how nice and sweet they present to their family.
Yes I am also a Christian, my sister is as well and she is a teacher and as of this school year they are being recorded in the classroom and she has gotten in trouble for even referring to siblings as 'sisters' and 'brothers ' . So school is becoming very extreme on these topics. Keep in mind shes a kindergarten teacher
@Cecilia I’m in school?????
This also might just be a Midwest thing that teachers don’t care though
@Cecilia did you hear that from Jordan Peterson? Because the idea of being criminally charged in Canada for not using the correct pronouns is actually a myth.
@Cecilia can you give source pls 🙏 ?
If you don't want your children to be socialized, well rounded and informed keep them at home . Teach them whatever you want!
I dont think think you realize that there are tons of private schools, religious and non everywhere. Not just public school and homeschooling
@@Samuellalduhzela Just because I don't mention something, does not imply I'm unaware! I wrote two sentences, not a book!
Not mentioning it tells it all though
So they can turn into woke sjw’s? The next generation
@@ceeIoc woke and mental yea 😵
That professor is not that bright.
"Oh, no! Don't teach my kids that LGBT+ folk can turn out to be normal functioning members of society! They will start to question why our faith even considers it to be sinful nature, or even worse, they may actually feel comfortable in themselves if they are a part of that community! No, don't undo the years of indoctrination our home and church has done! Keep with tradition!"
Can the T+ crowd really be normal members of society? Can they reaaaally?
@@brandtmunk2492 Yes. and maybe if you stopped trying to remove them from society you would see that.
@@brandtmunk2492 touch grass
@@brandtmunk2492 Can you be a normal member of society? Based on your comment, I'd wager no.
@@Matty__niice maybe direct that advice towards the crowd who spends too much time on tumbler inventing neopronouns
Is it really necessary to separate genders for sex ed class? Shouldn’t everybody learn everything?
Men should learn about women and women should learn about men. I agree with that.
I think, honestly, no or rather, not yet. I think the issue with actually doing that does much deeper. Our culture still shames a lot of aspects of the topic and not necessarily the same way. Just in the last decade or so has the shaming over the menstrual cycle really taken hold. I could be wrong, in that teaching them together helps solve some of that and am open to considering it. Chicken/egg? Now I'm wavering more :)
That's what I was thinking. The amount of males that know little about the female body is alarming. This is not just sexually beneficial but great for decreasing discrimination. Like think about the instances where men belittle women who are on their period or expect them to be fine after giving birth
Men and women are different sorry you've forgotten that being brainwashed so long by the media but they need to be taught differently because biologically they are different!
its usually only when theyre learning about the unique changes in the sexses that occur during puberty. also maybe so both sexes can feel comfortable asking their teachers questions. uk how kids are lol
the parents: "we can't trust teachers to mold out childrens' mind because they can be bad people"
also the parents: "teachers should have guns in the classroom!"
Lmao you purposely twist their words, they said teachers can be bad people, so does every occupation group, what's your point here?
They also didn't say the teacher "should" have guns. They simply stated teachers can carry weapons voluntarily if they have gone through necessary training and certification. You are equating two absolute statements together as af they mean the same.
I can say the teachers should teach, but when you say teachers should have guns, it starts making no sense doesn't it?
@@calebgao6931 the point is that the conservative parents believe many teachers are brainwashing their children, and don't trust these teachers. But they also want those teachers to be able to carry firearms in the classroom around those same children. Seems kinda doublethink to me.
I mean with the constant school shootings, can you blame them lol
Correct; One is about grooming and the other is protection
@@bob14775523 cognitive dissonance lol. Also, if you’re that concerned about your kids’ education, homeschool! That’s an option!
Edit: typo
I just love every time Mason starts treating the moms like his first grade students. (17:53-17:58 as an example)
Oh so now women who think for themselves and have commen sense are considered children?
@@siena1576 nobody said that. Your blowing things out of proportion now.
@@bigmanbob2208 How am I blowingit out of proportions. I'm taking something she said and bringing it into the light. Are you also agaisnt women thinking for themselves?
@@siena1576 I'd say it's debatable whether those women are thinking for themselves here. That isn't a statement about all women (same as the original comment wasn't about all women).
@@citrineconjurer Very debatable If anyone Thinks for them self let alone a religious person.
Love to see something backing up that guy’s friend who teaches 6th grade and has been for less than a decade while making “over $150,000”
That seems insane
who astablishes the boundary? The law. I'm useing this line now
Not to be a grammar police but you spelled using wrong
Like if everything that was legal in History was correct morally.
Id say your freedom stops at the tip of my nose. Having a homosexual relationship is not hurting anyone. Pedophilia is hurting the child who is not capable of consenting.
Volunteering is not the same as asking someone to do something
Critical race theory is taught in college law school for those who want to be civil lawyers. This course is not taught in 1st through 12th grade.
Not the course itself but the ideas are implemented
@@mo.ka.9661 No they're not. Show me an example of 1 elementary school that has laws in their curriculum.
@@lafxcraft you completely missed the point of that comment .
@@charvey2284 no I didn’t. The ideas and concepts are tied between laws. If law is not taught in elementary school then how can these ideas be present in the schools? And keep in mind these are specific laws.
I have at least 20 links to different videos that prove CRT is taught to kids.
I like how the conservative parents think pro nouns are this new thing when its litteraly just basic gramar they teach pronouns in english💀
This is why my kids don’t go to public school
“I’m glad they don’t”😂😂😂
I SCREAMED😂😂😂
And they are better people and more successful for not being in public schools.
OMG I loved his response! 😂
he ate
@@anthonycardenas1297 WHAT
This seems to be another issue where discussion isn’t really all that helpful. These (and many) parents are often working with limited or false information and yet they’re absolutely positive they have it all figured out. No amount of rational discussion or contrary facts matters when someone in a position of ignorance always sees anyone who disagrees with them as unquestionably wrong. You can tell the difference in people who really want to talk and learn, and those who just want to say what they think and refuse everything else.
i 100% agree
unfortunately that's a deeper symptom of a much larger problem stemming from corporate corruption (conservative media), individualism to the point of not caring about anyone else (a very American sentiment), privilege (from many different dimensions not just racial), and organized religion tied to political movements that started in the 70s. At the deepest roots, all of this stemmed from greed (power hungry politicians wanting the most for themselves so they create policies to favor their tribe) and racism (having some group be "in" and some group be "out"). Unfortunately greed and racism/other-ism are pretty fundamental human traits so we need to rework society up to constrain them as much as possible.
Yes they're misinformed and ignorant. A big factor is also core beliefs. The parents' answers and statements were reflective of their core beliefs. It's rare for people to change their core beliefs. Generally people will defend their core beliefs even if they're not rational.
Totally, these videos are triggering because the conservative side are always just the most uninformed, ignorant people with zero ability to open their minds to other concepts. I live in a town of small minded people (Yelm, WA) and this just makes me feel like I’m watching city council meetings 🤘😂
Would you support there being cameras in classrooms so parents can see what is going on
"As someone who works with kids these parents need to realize their kids are already exposed to these “topics” from other students and social media."
Yes, and that is why Teachers need to step up and put a boundary. Parents have to be able to trust the Teachers to teach a righteous path and even if kids gets misled from social media, Teachers have to stay strong in front of kids to protect them from "social media viruses".
"How can you better represent us?" To me sounded like "How can you promote a single religion over others and how can you better discriminate against lgbtq people?"
If that's what you got from that, it's an issue. Clearly you think all conservatives are against other religions and the LGBT. Not all conservatives are against those differences and not all liberals and democrats believe in teaching children about sex, gender, and race before their mind can even comprehend those topics. You're letting the same hate you claim to despise so much corrupt your rational thought processes.
@@NinthCircleGaming I also didn't mention conservatives in general, I am aware that some of them can be quite reasonable and intelligent, but that I got that meaning from them specificly.
I see it as a war of different ideologies wanting control. The leaders of many of these movements view people in group x, y, and z as the very stereotypes they claim to hate and then go on to perpetuate them. The concerning part is whether it's intentional to keep power or not regardless of which group it comes from.
@@NinthCircleGaming I agree with this comment.
@@menwar0077 Oh I very much agree with the 3rd sentence as well. I just don't like being acused of things I didn't say or being misrepresented.
the way he said “THE LAW” so fast LMAO😭
These parents are extremely out of touch with reality🤣
I’d like to see a segment where these parents had to spend a few days as teachers in under funded schools and then hear their prospectives.
Public schools are over funded just with bad and corrupt spending that's s going on, along with corrupt unions. Market based schools ate lower cost already proven.
I’d like to see these liberal teachers be caring for once. Like Kenyon literally said it was annoying to receive complaints about their child not getting enough attention. It’s annoying to hear about parents concerned for their child???
@@bjroo how are they supposed to give them all as much attention as their mommy wants.
What does under funded schools have to do with what you just decide to talk about to children that aren't yours tho 🤔
@@bjroo is like to hear you not whine like a snowflake lmaooo
I need this but with teachers and kids, because I definitely think parents have next to no idea what actually happens in a classroom and can pull kids out of school if they like where as kids cant