CAN A 100% DISABLED VETERAN FLY MILITARY SPACE-A
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Can a 100% disabled veteran fly military space-a - is a common question on social media. Here I will refer to Department of Defense Instruction (DoDI) 4515.13 to answer this important question. There are many opinions out there about eligibility, it is always critical to go to the authoritative source - the regulation. I hope this information is useful to you.
NOTE ON MILITARY ID
Just a follow up note on this video regarding military ID needed to fly space-a... A veteran who is 100% P&T rated can get a U.S. USID card (military ID card) at any Real-Time Automated Personnel Identification System site. RAPIDS offices are located on military bases, at National Guard armories and at reserve training locations. You will need to go onto your profile at va.gov and print your Benefit Summary and Service Verification Letter. The folks at the RAPIDS office will use that to verify your eligibility for your ID card. They will produce a card for you and eligible dependents. Make sure you take all appropriate documentation for all lawful dependents in need of an ID card.
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Here is a link to the official and authoritative source.
DoDI 4515.13: www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Do...
Please reference Page 46, Table 3. Section 47.
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I am 100% p&t with dependents. Thanks for the information. Great news for travel with the kids in the summer 👍. I may be broken, but I am not beaten.
Hope you get to enjoy this great benefit with your family - good luck!
Just a follow up note on this video regarding military ID needed to fly space-a... A veteran who is 100% P&T rated can get a U.S. USID card (military ID card) at any Real-Time Automated Personnel Identification System site. RAPIDS offices are located on military bases, at National Guard armories and at reserve training locations. You will need to go onto your profile at va.gov and print your Benefit Summary and Service Verification Letter. The folks at the RAPIDS office will use that to verify your eligibility for your ID card. They will produce a card for you and eligible dependents. Make sure you take all appropriate documentation for all lawful dependents in need of an ID card.
Just my awards letter, or my dd214, as well? 1🤔
Your awards letter should be all that you need. @@Darronsanderson
You need to print out a summary of benefits letter from the VA. Include your pay, percentage, and if you are p&t (scheduled for re examination). @@Darronsanderson
Thank you for your time and effort in making this content. I learned something new!! As a 100% service connected, p&t disabled I wasn’t aware my dependent was eligible as well. Thank you so much for that gem of information. It’s greatly appreciated. Happy to subscribe! :)
Glad you found it helpful and best wishes in your space-a adventures!
Thank you for continuing to make helpful content.
Thank you for checking out the video - it is appreciated!
Thanks for the well researched video with the links. Appreciate it.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! Going to look through your channel for a description of Space A travel. 1st time hearing about it.
Hope you enjoy it!
CLIFF, YOU ARE THE BEST BARRACKS LAWYER EVER!!! I always intended to use Space-A and even bought the Military Lifestyle Guide for Space A Travel... it may as well have been in Chinese Mandarin. I never understood it and like most perks, they seemed self defeating. I still hope to use Space A. man you are a G-sent!!
Hey thanks for your comment - appreciate the support!
Thanks
Absolutely!
My interpretation is that a 100% disabled vet can fly OCONUS if they are retired. (Table 3, Page 43, Item 37). Conversely, if you’re 100% disabled, and NOT retired, you can’t fly OCONUS. (Table 3, Page 45, Item 47).
Im a knuckle dragger so maybe I’m wrong?
You are correct, sir.
I am 100% service connected disabled P&T ...
My question is how do I find out where I can catch a flight near me ?.
Is there a list of bases ?.
I live near March Air Force reserve base in Riverside CA .But don't know how to find out ?.
Thank you Sir for the video
I would recommend that you start by watching the first video in my space, a Boot Camp series at this link: th-cam.com/video/spPZ_GaInXA/w-d-xo.html There are occasional flights out of March ARB, which, depending on what you want to do, could be a good option. You are also within striking distance of NAS North Island in San Diego. They still post their 72 flight scheduled to Facebook. None of the AMC terminals do that any longer. Another great resource starting out is to become familiar with the air mobility command website, as well as spacea.net and popping smoke.com. All of these websites have critical guidance and information for space travelers, and represent the best place to start.
First of all, thank you for your service, and the content of your military travel videos.
Question:
My husband is T&P 100%, we both got our DOD IDs, we are located in Gainesville Fl.
His mother health is critical, she is in Puerto Rico, is there a Military Space A near us that will take us to P.R.?
There is much less space a activity in Fl than there was 10 years ago and flights to PR do happen, but they are rare as seeing a unicorn. For circumstances that require firm travel dates as you have outlined in your comments, I recommend a low cost commercial carrier and travel lite. Looking at google flights, I found Frontier and Spirit flights round trip for under $150. That is going to be the way to go.
Last time i flew from hawaii to okinawa with vice press
Thank you for your comment! You meet all kinds of people on Space A!
I love your content I am a 100% permanent, and total disabled veteran. I understand what you said in your video one thing that I’m not aware of is, can you explain why we are not allowed to fly to Europe from the east coast planes are always flying to Germany. Why can’t we get on those planes? Please explain thank you
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. I regret that I don't have any insight as to why the DoD made the determination that 100% P&T DAV can't fly to Europe and Asia. Hopefully that changes in time...
Has something to do with customs/immigration of foreign countries.
I say go to try catch a flight to Europe, if they let you on, no harm no foul. If they turn you away, say “Gosh, I’m sorry” and catch a commercial flight.
Do you think 100% P&T veterans will eventually be able to fly oconus as well? I don’t understand why they are limited to just conus flights.
I think that is the next logical evolution where eligibility is concerned.
Wish the VA provides a 50% off voucher for all 100% to fly domestic airlines around to anywhere
There must have been a change to overseas destinations at some time. In 1986 when I was still active, a retired couple and I were signed up for SpaceA to Yokota AB Japan. Unfortunately there wasn’t enough seats open to accommodate the retired couple. So at that time overseas bases were allowed for retirees?
I am T&P Veteran currently residing in Japan. Can I fly Space A to the US from Japan and just purchase a commercial flight back home to Japan after my visit?
Unfortunately, no. However, you could fly commercial to Hawaii, then fly space-a to CONUS.
100% P&T here. So my spouse can fly with me? We both have Military I.D. cards.
According to Page No. 36, Paragraph (q) of DoDI 4515.13 -Veterans with a permanent service-connected disability rated as total, must have a: (1) U.S. USID sponsor identification and privilege card for disabled American veterans with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block. (2) U.S. USID dependent identification and privilege card for any dependents accompanying the member with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block. If you have the military ID as outlined above, you are ready to fly...
You may not need it, but here is a link to the regulation I referenced above: www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/451513p.PDF?ver=2018-02-09-075927-907
Where does it say 100% T&P can’t fly OCONUS? Various roll call listings show that category made it to OCONUS flights.
Reference Department of Defense Instruction 4515.14, (DODI4515.13) you can search it on Google., Pages 39 to 46 specify DOD approved geographical travel segments. In this case 100% TNP veterans are category 6, however, the category does not establish geographic travel restrictions. Check page 46 item number 47 look to the narrative in column 2.
Just a follow up, it is not entirely accurate to say that they are not entitled to fly OCONUS, because technically, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, and other US territories are OCONUS. A more accurate description of the restriction would be that they cannot fly to foreign locations.
@@CliffWagner Correction, Cliff. It is T&P or T and P, not TNP.
Im a ex disabled veteran .i could .im already qualified trade baker.👍
OK - thanks for that information.
This is strange. On my total rating, it says I am eligible in the benefits package I got. Of course, I believe a Veteran first.
Did this change?
Are you rated 100% Permanent and Total by the VA? Are you a retiree?
@@CliffWagner No, not retired. 100% & total TDIU since 1991. Now over 55.
Deemed total in 2012.
Was P & T for many years, then in 2012, they call it a total rating, mandated.
You left out one group, I am 80% with TBIU / IU and I receive all Chapter 35 benefits and 100% P & T. Am I eligible?
I can only tell you what the regulation says on the matter, DOD instruction, 4515.13 says 100% and permanent and total. It makes no mention of anything else.
So this isn't quite right. If you are medically retired with a DD Form 2 USID Card showing you are a retiree you can fly space A. I flew to japan space A and Im 90 percent disabled. Hope this helps.
You were eligible to fly to Japan, because you are eligible as a retiree. It doesn’t matter whether you’re medically retired or if you did, 30 years, retired is retired. You did not qualify under eligibility as a 100% P&T veteran, or you would not have been eligible for foreign travel.
@@CliffWagner Right but the nuance is missing and may confuse many people
Well, then I look forward to your video on the subject matter where you elucidate the issue.
@@CliffWagner No need for the bruised ego, it's ok to say "understood" and drive on. Many veterans with disability status with the VA are often confused about what they qualify for. Currently under medical evaluation proceedings, most veterans separated over 30 percent are automatically retirees with some caveat cases. With Space A travel, I often see retired veterans watch videos telling them they're incapable of space A travel and while not understanding the nuance I mentioned then they miss out on something they're actually qualified to do. Hope this helps.
If u get injured during deployment it wouldn't be a bad idea to file a va claim while in service, than use that va claim to get medically retired from the military (now as a retiree you can fly OCONUS, not to mention recieve retirement pay & tricare). Currently what I'm doing.
Thank you for your comment.
Smart fella
You can’t file a VA claim while in service. You can go to the military doctor and they can evaluate whether you need to be “Med Boarded” and then “medically retired”
Is 100% TDIU, P&T eligible?
If you are 100% P&T that is all that matters.
I’m 100% P&T and was wondering am I able to use all flights within CONUS or certain ones?
Kahlil, you are eligible for any flight that any other space-a passenger would qualify to fly on within your geographic limitations. Some folks are confused about WHERE 100 P&T (disabled) veterans and their dependents can fly. You are eligible for anywhere within CONUS, Hawaii, Alaska and all US Territories. Lot's of disabled veterans will space-a to Guam and then jump commercially to the Philippines or Australia. There are many ways to maximize your benefit.
Enjoy your next space-a adventure!
One thing I read that I cannot clearly figure out is can my wife of 27 years fly with me ?
@@mikesimonds2841 yes, any legal dependents are eligible to fly with you.
@@CliffWagner thank you sir!!
80% service-connected, but paid as 100%, and, YES, I am PTIU. Can I qualify for the DoDid card for hops? 🤔
I can only tell you what the regulation DoDI 4515.13 said about the question. I recommend that you contact a USAID center, book an appointment and find out if you qualify for the ID Card. You just might...
@CliffWagner thanks Cliff. Luke AFB, AZ Bass Ops said I would if I bring my award letter stating I am P&T. I believe I pay a fee. I do not need to bring my DD214.
I must be misunderstanding something. Where does it say 100% or 75% or 50% disabled for that matter are not eligible for SpaceA? I’m looking at the instruction and it seems to say they are eligible but only for conus and territories as was mentioned. I have a VA rating of 70% myself.
See Department of Defense Instruction (DoDI) 4515.13 Section 4. on Page 36. Subsection q.
q. Veterans with a permanent service-connected disability rated as total, must have a:
(1) U.S. USID sponsor identification and privilege card for disabled American veterans
with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block.
(2) U.S. USID dependent identification and privilege card for any dependents
accompanying the member with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block.
Cliff is correct. 100% T&P service connected disabled veterans and dependents only.
@@CliffWagnerwhere do you get all of the id cards from?
You can get a USAID or 'military ID card" from pretty much any active military installation or National Guard or Reserve installation. I would suggest you call and ask if an appointment is needed. Sometimes it is by appointment.@@22jaydogg
@@CliffWagner thanks a lot! 👍🏾
I like your hat.
Hard to find one big enough for this dome sometimes.
If you are less than 100%, 10, 50, 70, or even 90% by VA you ARE eligible to fly Space A IF you are PDRL or TDRL. I am sick of people saying you must be 100% disabled because that is simply not always true, A member of the TDRL or the PDRL is a retired member of the armed forces and many are less than 100% disabled and are entitled to all rights and privileges of a military retiree.
DoDi 4515.13 Page 36, Section 4. Paragraph q. seems pretty unambiguous to me where VA Disabled veterans are concerned. TDRL or PDRL effectively places the veteran in "retired" status, which is an entirely different eligibility status where space-a is concerned. In that case, retired is retired, but they are NOT qualifying under the 100% P&T DAV status, they are qualifying as a retiree - not the same.
100% P&T DAV Eligibility:
q. Veterans with a permanent service-connected disability rated as total, must have a:
(1) U.S. USID sponsor identification and privilege card for disabled American veterans with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block.
(2) U.S. USID dependent identification and privilege card for any dependents
accompanying the member with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block.
100% TDiU is not authorized either
Again, unfortunate but correct.
@@cbbc8936 If you are 100% Permanent and Total your ID meets the requirements spelled out in DODI 4515.13, reference page No. 36 - Paragraph q. It states:
"q. Veterans with a permanent service-connected disability rated as total, must have a:
(1) U.S. USID sponsor identification and privilege card for disabled American veterans with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block.
(2) U.S. USID dependent identification and privilege card for any dependents accompanying the member with “100% DAV” in the affiliation block."
I am TDIU and was granted Permanent and Total as well. So in my instance, yes my TDIU is authorized.
@@CliffWagner Cliff, I believe that you are wrong. 100% P&T is the same rating and benefits whether schedular or TDIU.
This is incorrect Sir. I am rated as a 100% Disabled American Veteran and I use Space A all the time when traveling (CONUS). I am NOT rated 100% P&T and I have no problem using SPACE A benefits.
I can only relate to you and others what the regulation specifies. DoDI 4515.13 is explicit in this regard. If some passenger terminals deviate from the authorizing regulation, then I would say that you have been lucky so far where space-a travel is concerned. Hopefully you will continue to be lucky.