@@JAMIE_ATKINS Oh, my mistake. This was the first video I checked out and it wasn't obvious to me that it wasn't a Sport model. Sorry. It's still one heck of a mean Panther.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS Here in Newfoundland Canada I've never actually seen a Sport model in the wild. There aren't even any Panther cars in the scrapyards. I sure do like my '07 MGM though. She'll be going to sleep next week. 😥
thanks! its gott some healthy midrange power and the 3800 stall keeps it in it with moderate amount of throttle. headers 2.5 inch full exhauast with magnaflow mufflers and tail pipes.
Mainly Hi-tech's stage 2 cams, headers, x-pipe and dual exhaust with tail pipes. A huge throttle body and upper plenum, Victor Jr. Intake, and a really good dyno tune. I've got a low rear gear and a high stall torque converter. Trans is fresh with a j mod
I sold my last 03 Merc but man your videos are making me want to build another one......do you think the throttle body, upper plenum and Victor Jr. Intake were worth the upgrade? My last Panther was just a Marauder air box and intake tube with a 80mm MAF sensor, Marty Tune from Mo's Speed shop and custom dual exhaust, but willing to put in the work in the intake of the 4.6 if its worth the gains. Def will be getting a set of those Cams too along with a set of long tube headers and a true 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust system. Regardless, glad to see the car is still around and kicking ass as usual!
Every bolt on you can think of...under drive pulleys, intake and upper plenum, throttle body, headers etc. With the Motive 4.30 rear gear set you will get a little whine or noise when there's a certain amount of load on the pinion at certain speeds.
its got obx long tube headers and a 2.5 inch x-pipe into magnaflow mufflers. 2.5 over the axle bumped to 3 inch after the rear tires then straight out to the bumber. cams are Hi-tech stage 2
I bought an oem console and floor shift assembly from an 05 grand marquis. I modified the interlock in my original steering column. The cams are Hi-tech stage 2
the last time it was on the dyno it made 281/297 at the wheels. that was with a PI intake and 75mm throttle body/plenum combo. yes ive thought about nitrous and boost over the years
@@garrettstayton It really isnt fast. Its's quick for what it is,...considering what it is. Its not week. its got a low rear gear wich compliments everything
It would be hard for me to say. If your able to do most or all of the work yourself, it would cost you drastically less. Working on this car over the yrs, for the most part, has been a blast. I would really have to sit down and think about how much I have into it total. But just a few things for example for starters I bought the car for 7500 when it was only 2 yrs old. Also The only things I've paid to have done was the Dyno tuning, multiple rear end and differential configurations, and the transmission rebuild (I've rebuilt the valve body myself then went back into it to fine tune things multiple times), all other work I've done myself including pulling the transmission 5 times...lol. examples of some of this cost; the last time I had a gear swap including parts and a new diff and also truing and welding my axle tubes, cost me about $2000 Paid $1700 to have my transmission rebuilt, and $700+$150 for the Dyno Tune.($850 included 1st dyno tune, SCT handheld device, and 1 retune)
@@JAMIE_ATKINS change whole transmission? Would love a Manuel p71 but don't wanna deal with the crazy install. Thing looks super clean. Wish Ford did that or remake the crown vic for 2023
@@teamc.a.r.l8581 the transmission is the original 4R75E. I J-modded it and also disassembled the valve body and installed a sonax "sure cure" kit. later after the first High stall convertrer went bad I pulled the transmission again and had it rebuilt I'v run 2 different high stall torque converters over the years. one 3400 and the circle D i'currently use that I've had reconfigured twice now. a 3000 stall, 3400-3600,and now a 3800-4000 stall. Also installed a huge external trans cooler and a Auto meter trans temp guage for a ford diesel. Matches my oem ford green backlighting
@@JAMIE_ATKINS awesome! Thanks for the reply! Got a 2010 coming in 2 weeks. Was gonna lift it for a off road project but thinking of kinda going thr route u did. It's a clean idea and build. Something rare! Thanks
Hey what set up do you have I have a 2011 Vic with p71 4.6 I have SCT tune with Jet performance throttle body and 4:56 gears but it’s not quite quick enough off the line. What converter do you have in your car and what cam?
It's just one of those terms that is cookie cutter and just doesn't go away....but the majority of enthusiasts speak that language so...it describes what I've done or haven't done for that matter.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS Ah, fair enough. Yeah, since you specified that it was also cammed and stalled you aren't mis-advertising about it being bolt-ons also. (Which are typically all the things you can do to the exterior of the engine such as intake, headers, intake mani, underdrive pullies, bigger TB... I suppose ITBs would technically count as a bolt on, but those are so badass the deserve a specific mention. And yes, I know you didn't do those here, I'm just saying.)
@@jeeplifted1 my peak torque is between 4-4500rpm. That's why this stall range works well for me. I can't speak on the cougar though. 289ci? Or is it a big block?
Kevin, on the website you need to first choose the the "Ford" option. then "AOD". there are 5 options for that Transmission. You want the "245mm PRO SERIES" You choose from multiple stall ranges. there's also an option to add a 3-Disc lock up. I have the 3-Disc Lock up and a 3800-4000 stall range. The Part is "SKU 30-13-04-5C" Here's a link to what I have www.circledspecialties.com/4r70-pro-series-245mm
I chose to install a large aftErmarket cooler because it was cheap and will only help. The trans is absolutely awesome! I did things right when rebuilding it and the valve body. It should last a long time.
@@mooreaj man I've used a stock 11.25 2400 stall, a 9.5 3400 edge, a 9.75 2800 stall circle d, a 3400 stall circle d and a 3800 circle d. Thiese have all been with cams, headers etc. I would never want to use anything that doesn't at least stall above 3k rpm. You've got cams and a good gear. I would want this even if everything else was stock. Including rear gear
@@JAMIE_ATKINS yea man thanks , I use to run 4.56 and it’s a would help wit the low end toque ALOT but I hated it had bad mph with our trans. Lol I’m assuming you don’t have a converter to sell 👀 anything would b better than what’s in it. And how it’s chirps do u have the j mod?
@@mooreaj lol yeah I'm running a tire size that's one inch shorter than the stock tires the p71's use so with the 4.30 it's like a 4.56 (mph vs rpm). I run at 2850 in OD at 70 mph. I don't have a converter to sell. Just what's in the car. I used an Edge that ran me about $600 then moved on to a circle D that I had the stall range re configured 3 times lol. The way the circle d was expensive but man the quality in the way it's built and the engagement of the multi disc lock up is like nothing else I've seen or used. This converter will withstand anything I can throw at it with the small amount of power this engine makes...like i said though this 4.6 even stock doesn't make a ton of torque anywhere much less down low. Even stock you would make the car way more fun with usable power stalling at least above 3k rpm
@@P71ScrewHead If you were to ride in it you wouldn't think so lol. i've run a stock 11.25" 2400, two different 9.5" 3400's, a 3000, a 3600 and no this 3800...all in that specific order.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS well if it runs good, it's all that matters.. At a stoplight, how high can you rev it before it spins the tires?? That's what really helps launch the car hard off the line.. i have a vid of my stock converter it can go to about 1,400rpms before the tires want to spin, yours may be much higher than that..
@@JAMIE_ATKINS not bad I am doing a stage 1 comp cam and have cylinder head rebuild and porting I have alot of of bolts on to hopefully be making 400 hp
@@biggyles9550 I've only ever seen a 4.6 2v make 300+ to the wheels. That was the vic featured in "car craft" magazine. To make that power they used trick flow cylinder heads and something close to a "stage 2" cam, long tubes, a dyno tune etc. There's also a guy that did a stroked his 4.6 2v. Used ported oem heads, long tubes, Victor Jr. Intake, 75mm throttle body matched with a huge upper plenum, and bolt on etc. He made a little over 300hp on a chassis dyno and maybe around 330 torque. His username is mrvic on TH-cam. Its hard to make good power with the 2v unless you use TFS heads and huge cams at the very least. Ateast N/A, anyway.
N/A. mainly just cams and intake mods, a good torque converter, a fresh tranmission with a rebuilt valve body, headers, good flowing exhaust and a low rear gear. some chassis mods and a few other little things.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS I hate to do it my man. But do you know specs/brand model of everything?? Because your Vic is exactly the setup I've been trying to dial in! Just never had the right sound, punch, etc. I went ahead and gave a Subscribe and did the thang. I have Stainless Works headers. Got a tune setup already from Marty. So can always have him re-tune me. Type of exhaust you run? Pipe diameter? Cams? Intake? Also know torque converter can really change characteristics of the motor, so guess that would be good to know also. Hey really. Thanks brother. For good content and for any in depth parts details! Can always direct message me on here.
@@Galli1084 this will be a long reply so I will get back when I have a moment one thing you guys gott understand though, this car was built to be quick and handle better than a stock p71. Nothing fancy. The car is something I messed around with years ago when I quit riding motocross, because i needed something.
I usually end up replying in every video with a run down o fcb what all I've done to it. Maybe its hidden among the comments here. When I get a second I'll list everything again
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That crown is bad ass. Sounds great too!
Thanks. Its fun for what it is.
First of all, love the LX Sport.
That car sounds awesome and seems to pull like crazy.
well It actually started out as a really nice retired State patrol police interceptor. I Just added the console trim and floor shift
@@JAMIE_ATKINS Oh, my mistake. This was the first video I checked out and it wasn't obvious to me that it wasn't a Sport model. Sorry.
It's still one heck of a mean Panther.
@@mgmnfld3109 Man, I appreciate that. there were a few local guys to me that inspired me yrs ago with these cars.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS Here in Newfoundland Canada I've never actually seen a Sport model in the wild.
There aren't even any Panther cars in the scrapyards.
I sure do like my '07 MGM though. She'll be going to sleep next week. 😥
@@mgmnfld3109 very good! Sleeping through the winter is a must!
Ive always wanted to build a crown vic police spec like this Congrats🖤 I Love it
That’s not a police inter its a lx sport
@@earnestbarnes9633 it actually is a P71 he added the trim and the console with floor shifter
Wow that thing is bad ass. Nice build!
that is a great sounding car
thanks! its gott some healthy midrange power and the 3800 stall keeps it in it with moderate amount of throttle.
headers 2.5 inch full exhauast with magnaflow mufflers and tail pipes.
Love it. Can't wait to finish mine.
Sounds great!!
Love this build!!!
Man I cant believe anybody actually watches these...Thanks though
The more I watch the better it get!!
Lol,...glad you like it!
Loved it man 💪
My god that thing sounds heavenly. I want to mimic this build and setup for mine. Do you mind listing all the mods?
Mainly Hi-tech's stage 2 cams, headers, x-pipe and dual exhaust with tail pipes. A huge throttle body and upper plenum, Victor Jr. Intake, and a really good dyno tune. I've got a low rear gear and a high stall torque converter. Trans is fresh with a j mod
How much did all this run you
@@JAMIE_ATKINS how much did the full setup cost?
Sounds so great
I sold my last 03 Merc but man your videos are making me want to build another one......do you think the throttle body, upper plenum and Victor Jr. Intake were worth the upgrade? My last Panther was just a Marauder air box and intake tube with a 80mm MAF sensor, Marty Tune from Mo's Speed shop and custom dual exhaust, but willing to put in the work in the intake of the 4.6 if its worth the gains. Def will be getting a set of those Cams too along with a set of long tube headers and a true 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust system.
Regardless, glad to see the car is still around and kicking ass as usual!
Is this a early 2000s sport model
What top speed you hit with 4.30’s ? I got a fti 3800 stall trickflow heads and stage 3 cams im thinking of going the same gear
Man that sounds and looks so fun to drive daily ...
Sold it 2 months ago and was wrecked in crash this past Friday😭
@@JAMIE_ATKINS for real that's crazy to hear... Damn what a sweet ride... Too much power 😞😞
@@JAMIE_ATKINShope they put it back together bro🙏🏽
@spinamerctae4060 a young intelligent and motivated Ford Tech owns it. I hope it gets fixed too
Stop light to stop light action is killer ..
I would love to build my 99lx like this but with 2.73 posi track so I can cruise on the highway at 90-115mph lol
3:27 would be good
Holy crap, it chirped in 2nd. My Marauder doesn't do that 😁😁😁Did u put the stall and cam on yourself?
Amazing
This things sounds bad ass💪🏽💪🏽👌🏾 Mod list?
Beast!
What bolt ons, what cam, thought I heard a whine, is that a turbo? Car sounds amazing I want mine to sound just as good
Every bolt on you can think of...under drive pulleys, intake and upper plenum, throttle body, headers etc. With the Motive 4.30 rear gear set you will get a little whine or noise when there's a certain amount of load on the pinion at certain speeds.
Awesome ❤😮🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
WHAT CAMS DID YOU USE ????
Hi tech stage 2
thats so fast omlllll
Is this a ppv? A civilian model.sound really sharp and clean.
Was a police interceptor
My wife’ farts too man!!!!
Cant tell you how sorry I am to hear that..lol
sick build what are your mods?
What exhaust do you have on her? And what cams. She sounds really good
its got obx long tube headers and a 2.5 inch x-pipe into magnaflow mufflers. 2.5 over the axle bumped to 3 inch after the rear tires then straight out to the bumber. cams are Hi-tech stage 2
Thank you. She sounds right
@@GrandPitoVic this car is actually being sold tonight☹
Nice vic What gear does the cars have ?
Was 3.27 stock. Now has 4.30
how did you change the shifter from the steering wheel to the center???
I bought an oem console and floor shift assembly from an 05 grand marquis. I modified the interlock in my original steering column. The cams are Hi-tech stage 2
Sale is pending on my car.......😣
This shi so lit !!!!
how much did the setup make on a dyno? ever thought about nitrous? nice car btw
the last time it was on the dyno it made 281/297 at the wheels. that was with a PI intake and 75mm throttle body/plenum combo. yes ive thought about nitrous and boost over the years
That thing seems fast as hell for only having 281 wheel horsepower
@@garrettstayton It really isnt fast. Its's quick for what it is,...considering what it is. Its not week. its got a low rear gear wich compliments everything
Goals
I have a 2000, what price range would I be looking at for a similar setup that thing rips for a big car
It would be hard for me to say. If your able to do most or all of the work yourself, it would cost you drastically less. Working on this car over the yrs, for the most part, has been a blast. I would really have to sit down and think about how much I have into it total. But just a few things for example for starters I bought the car for 7500 when it was only 2 yrs old. Also The only things I've paid to have done was the Dyno tuning, multiple rear end and differential configurations, and the transmission rebuild (I've rebuilt the valve body myself then went back into it to fine tune things multiple times), all other work I've done myself including pulling the transmission 5 times...lol. examples of some of this cost; the last time I had a gear swap including parts and a new diff and also truing and welding my axle tubes, cost me about $2000 Paid $1700 to have my transmission rebuilt, and $700+$150 for the Dyno Tune.($850 included 1st dyno tune, SCT handheld device, and 1 retune)
What year is that? Notice the floor shifter..mine is a 07 p71. The panther platform is a heavy durable car..easy to make it mean
It's a 2009 p71. the console and floor shift are out of a 2005 Grand Marquis se
@@JAMIE_ATKINS change whole transmission? Would love a Manuel p71 but don't wanna deal with the crazy install. Thing looks super clean. Wish Ford did that or remake the crown vic for 2023
@@teamc.a.r.l8581 the transmission is the original 4R75E. I J-modded it and also disassembled the valve body and installed a sonax "sure cure" kit. later after the first High stall convertrer went bad I pulled the transmission again and had it rebuilt I'v run 2 different high stall torque converters over the years. one 3400 and the circle D i'currently use that I've had reconfigured twice now. a 3000 stall, 3400-3600,and now a 3800-4000 stall. Also installed a huge external trans cooler and a Auto meter trans temp guage for a ford diesel. Matches my oem ford green backlighting
@@JAMIE_ATKINS awesome! Thanks for the reply! Got a 2010 coming in 2 weeks. Was gonna lift it for a off road project but thinking of kinda going thr route u did. It's a clean idea and build. Something rare! Thanks
@@teamc.a.r.l8581 Absolutely! I appreciate the interest. best of luck with the 2010 whatevever you decide with it.
Hey what set up do you have I have a 2011 Vic with p71 4.6 I have SCT tune with Jet performance throttle body and 4:56 gears but it’s not quite quick enough off the line. What converter do you have in your car and what cam?
I have a custom dyno tune using SCT. The car has hi-tech stage 2 cams. Has a circle D multi disc 3800-4000 stall range
Why is bolt-on in quotation marks? What'd you do, bolt on a different engine? A turbo or supercharger, perhaps?
It's just one of those terms that is cookie cutter and just doesn't go away....but the majority of enthusiasts speak that language so...it describes what I've done or haven't done for that matter.
Basically the deepest I've went into the engine is underneath the valve covers...
@@JAMIE_ATKINS Ah, fair enough. Yeah, since you specified that it was also cammed and stalled you aren't mis-advertising about it being bolt-ons also. (Which are typically all the things you can do to the exterior of the engine such as intake, headers, intake mani, underdrive pullies, bigger TB... I suppose ITBs would technically count as a bolt on, but those are so badass the deserve a specific mention. And yes, I know you didn't do those here, I'm just saying.)
please post part #
What part are you speaking of?? Lol
@@JAMIE_ATKINS .. ha ha. I know is a couple. Of mods.. that thing sound like a beast
How much horsepower did you make
Last time it was on the dyno with a PI intake and 75/75mm tb/upper plenum combo, it made 281/297 at the wheels.
How much power does it have ?
360/390 is at the crank. 281/297 at the wheels. Doesn't matter, it was totaled right after I sold it
With the stall converter and gears are you able to mash the gas and have it take off hard?
Absolutely...that's the intent behind the configuration. It will spin the tires though
@@JAMIE_ATKINS awesome have a 67 cougar just put a deposit on a 3600 stall. Sweet car bruh.
@@jeeplifted1 my peak torque is between 4-4500rpm. That's why this stall range works well for me. I can't speak on the cougar though. 289ci? Or is it a big block?
You have a link to the torque converter man? I can't find one for so.e reason
I'll dig around on their website when I get a second
Did you go to "circle d specialties"?
@@JAMIE_ATKINS I did go to circle d
Kevin, on the website you need to first choose the the "Ford" option. then "AOD". there are 5 options for that Transmission. You want the "245mm PRO SERIES" You choose from multiple stall ranges. there's also an option to add a 3-Disc lock up. I have the 3-Disc Lock up and a 3800-4000 stall range. The Part is "SKU 30-13-04-5C" Here's a link to what I have www.circledspecialties.com/4r70-pro-series-245mm
What stall you have??
3800-4000
This thing have a j mod ?
Absolutely
did you have to upgrade the transmission cooler with the high stall converter? As of now, how's the tranny holding up?
I chose to install a large aftErmarket cooler because it was cheap and will only help. The trans is absolutely awesome! I did things right when rebuilding it and the valve body. It should last a long time.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS that's awesome!
What stall setup are you running ?
It's a 3800-4000 stall range. I'm using a Circle D pro 3 multi disc a 9.75 inch
@@JAMIE_ATKINS I run stock converter with 3.90s can’t get off the line like that 👍🏽 mines got a strong mid range- top end
@@mooreaj man I've used a stock 11.25 2400 stall, a 9.5 3400 edge, a 9.75 2800 stall circle d, a 3400 stall circle d and a 3800 circle d. Thiese have all been with cams, headers etc. I would never want to use anything that doesn't at least stall above 3k rpm. You've got cams and a good gear. I would want this even if everything else was stock. Including rear gear
@@JAMIE_ATKINS yea man thanks , I use to run 4.56 and it’s a would help wit the low end toque ALOT but I hated it had bad mph with our trans. Lol I’m assuming you don’t have a converter to sell 👀 anything would b better than what’s in it. And how it’s chirps do u have the j mod?
@@mooreaj lol yeah I'm running a tire size that's one inch shorter than the stock tires the p71's use so with the 4.30 it's like a 4.56 (mph vs rpm). I run at 2850 in OD at 70 mph. I don't have a converter to sell. Just what's in the car. I used an Edge that ran me about $600 then moved on to a circle D that I had the stall range re configured 3 times lol. The way the circle d was expensive but man the quality in the way it's built and the engagement of the multi disc lock up is like nothing else I've seen or used. This converter will withstand anything I can throw at it with the small amount of power this engine makes...like i said though this 4.6 even stock doesn't make a ton of torque anywhere much less down low. Even stock you would make the car way more fun with usable power stalling at least above 3k rpm
What stall is it??
Its a 3800-4000 Circle D Pro 3 multi disc
@@JAMIE_ATKINS seems a bit high don't it?? Anyway, sounds healthy, like the stage 2 cams??
@@P71ScrewHead If you were to ride in it you wouldn't think so lol. i've run a stock 11.25" 2400, two different 9.5" 3400's, a 3000, a 3600 and no this 3800...all in that specific order.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS well if it runs good, it's all that matters.. At a stoplight, how high can you rev it before it spins the tires?? That's what really helps launch the car hard off the line.. i have a vid of my stock converter it can go to about 1,400rpms before the tires want to spin, yours may be much higher than that..
How u at 281 hp
An aggressive cam, large throttle body/plenum, long tube headers, a good tune..
@@JAMIE_ATKINS u will think it will be around 300
@@biggyles9550 it was estimated to be In the neighborhood of 360/390 at the crank.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS not bad I am doing a stage 1 comp cam and have cylinder head rebuild and porting I have alot of of bolts on to hopefully be making 400 hp
@@biggyles9550 I've only ever seen a 4.6 2v make 300+ to the wheels. That was the vic featured in "car craft" magazine. To make that power they used trick flow cylinder heads and something close to a "stage 2" cam, long tubes, a dyno tune etc. There's also a guy that did a stroked his 4.6 2v. Used ported oem heads, long tubes, Victor Jr. Intake, 75mm throttle body matched with a huge upper plenum, and bolt on etc. He made a little over 300hp on a chassis dyno and maybe around 330 torque. His username is mrvic on TH-cam. Its hard to make good power with the 2v unless you use TFS heads and huge cams at the very least. Ateast N/A, anyway.
Man what do you have Done to that vic she get up and go
N/A. mainly just cams and intake mods, a good torque converter, a fresh tranmission with a rebuilt valve body, headers, good flowing exhaust and a low rear gear. some chassis mods and a few other little things.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS I hate to do it my man. But do you know specs/brand model of everything?? Because your Vic is exactly the setup I've been trying to dial in! Just never had the right sound, punch, etc. I went ahead and gave a Subscribe and did the thang.
I have Stainless Works headers. Got a tune setup already from Marty. So can always have him re-tune me. Type of exhaust you run? Pipe diameter? Cams? Intake? Also know torque converter can really change characteristics of the motor, so guess that would be good to know also. Hey really. Thanks brother. For good content and for any in depth parts details! Can always direct message me on here.
@@JAMIE_ATKINS well she sounds good
@@Galli1084 if you look at his previous videos in he has.
@@Galli1084 this will be a long reply so I will get back when I have a moment one thing you guys gott understand though, this car was built to be quick and handle better than a stock p71. Nothing fancy. The car is something I messed around with years ago when I quit riding motocross, because i needed something.
What parts do you have in it
I usually end up replying in every video with a run down o fcb what all I've done to it. Maybe its hidden among the comments here. When I get a second I'll list everything again
@@JAMIE_ATKINS ok thank you