This is 100% of why I come to TFL, that 2020 comparison of all three manufacturers is still being referenced on many other TH-cam Channels. We need More of this.
It seems a massive error to us factory differentials intended for the factory tire height. The new tires are 30% taller! At minimum youre down 30% of the mechanical advantage. This setup is a high output engine and corrected differentials away from being ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! I love it so much.
People don't understand how badly giant tires kill the power of a vehicle. Even going from 35s down to 33s wakes up the power. Those 41s look amazing, but the truck could greatly benefit from a much steeper gear. 4.88 or steeper would be preferable.
Youd be suprised with the 10 speeds these days. They dont need real low gearing bc the space between gears is short. Ive got 37” on my 22 with 3:31 gears and honestly it does great. If i pull 8k or up i just put it in 9th and it doesnt have an issue.
Very cool! Our company just did a 44in super single conversion on our F450 single cab. Talk about a monster. Plus, the single cab gives the truck an insane turning radius. We just produced our first video on the project.
@@Fucktard2 Less than 3 up that hill specifically. I'm sure your CAT isn't getting that 4-10 up that mountain. In general though I agree. The right sized engine for a specific job will have the lowest fuel burn.
@@Fucktard2 Your cat 3406e will no doubt last many hundreds of thousands of miles, if not more. But it's not getting better mileage up this grade while pulling a 'tiny' load of 30000lbs. Getting the same mileage would be quite a feat for the Cat, actually.
That's one big Reason this truck deserve a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Rating ‼️ It's an OFF Road Crawler for pete's sake 😲 ‼️ And it can Haul 27 thousand Pounds 😳❗ AND can Rise it self like the Best Swamp Trucks . . . Give me a Break 🙄 // 😎🤙
I know this channel mainly reviews new trucks but I would love to see you guys mix it up and compare some older trucks to newer ones. I'd love to see either a vp44 or common rail 5.9 cummins, a lb7 duramax, 7.3 powerstroke, etc.
I'm a professional truck driver and with cummins engine in either kw or international with 12 speed transmission pulling 30,000 in the Midwest states we are getting 8-9 mpgand that's running 68mph
I hope you guys do this exact test with a stock F550 to show how inefficient heavy mods like huge tires + stock gearing, kill performance. I love lifting and modifying trucks, but when its a truck that needs to be used for heavy duty work, those mods are just pointless unless you like cruising the malls
The 35 mph down hill and braking was fine, but going up there is no special speed limit for rigs. And it was pegged out at 35 mph and had nothing more, bigger tires and the wrong axle gearing effect that massively. I've lifted and modified lifted trucks for decades and unloaded they are fun, but when I fully load them I always wish I left them stock.
With a 10 speed, all those words you said are meaningless. Worse case scenario, the truck would operate as a 6 speed while towing With a 10 speed transmission, gearing is virtually meaningless
I've towed 28,000 pounds with a 30 foot Gooseneck flatbed trailer up a 7% grade with cruise set on 55 in fifth gear in my 2019 F450. Only deviated by 2 mph.
Ford does not offer the 6.7 high output or the 6.7 standard Pickup Engine in the cab and chassis models including this f550. Ford uses a 6.7 that is Dyno tested and has different parts including a cast iron egr Vs the standard aluminum in the pickup version
I’d love to see what would happen if you lowered this kind of weight onto a Maverick! 😂 they would need to contract out Whistling Diesel for that test.
I’ve watched you guys from the very beginning and there’s a certain magic in how you all collaborate and turn out excellent quality. I like all of you, but my spot on favourite is Ken, aka Mr. Truck, especially when he’s teamed with Andre, as they are hilarious, but professional, in providing the details. Everyone is great!
You know ive done 24k lbs in my 06 f350 single wheel on a 9% grade now it is moded and make about the same as a new HO and it held the speed limit with my foot on the floor temps where great and the down hill with the trans was great not that much braking needed
I would like to see this thing go from North Phoenix up to cordes junction in the summertime.... Now that's a towing test because beginning🌡️is about 120° & 110° when you get to your destination + 1 hell of a climb! 1,100' elevation up to 3,700' elevation... Where I'm from (phx) 73° is damn near cold 🥶 lol 🤙💯👌
Mr Truck and Andre is the best team we can have, thanks. I dont know what you normally say in US, but I think its nice when you say we instead of I, my or mine talking about the truck, because Mr Truck is also taking deal of this testing, good luck😊
My Saturday here in Central Idaho wouldn’t be the same without Andre and Mr Truck. This was a great episode for me as I’ve been following all the 550 coverage at tfl. I am considering a single wheel conversion for my new full power- power stroke f450 pickup. But, after leaving multiple voicemails on the elevation sight, I have never received a call back..todays episode has me thinking a gear swap should be included in one of these conversions to keep the performance where it needs to be for pulling. Thanks again for such a great video.
It’s close to a semi truck, however you can’t get over the tires and turn radius your truck will always turn better than a semi since the tires are much much smaller as well as height being low to the ground (compared to a semi) so you have to worry less about high center of gravity, also you don’t have air breaks so breaking is completely different for you.
The engineer said to use cruise control on the downhill. Hopefully you use it on the factory truck test. Why not downshift when it's going that slow up
It is on the commercial chassis which not only means it's not a high output, but it is actually detuned from the regular output. Edit: I made this comment when Mr truck first made the high output comments. Andre later clarified the numbers with this engine.
This was very interesting but i would like to see you guys do an Ike with stock chassis cab trucks with de-rated diesels and compare the Ram vs Ford vs Chevy
they arent derated. EPA requires EGR open at WOT. pickups aren't required to do that. you can only feed so much fuel when 25% of your air has no oxygen to burn.
Actually impressed with how it done considering the tires, weight, gearing ect. Wonder why it didnt want to downshift from 5th thought until the very end. I would have thought it would have downshifted to get into the HP a little more.... wonder whay the time would be if you manually shifted it down into 4th or 3rd for the run?
I wasn’t aware that ford had a commercial version of that motor and that it differs from the f-250. Wonder what they do differently to call it commercial vs non
Building a truck like that, with that wheel and tire setup, they should have started with a truck that had a bigger rear end. That would make a BIG difference towing, especially with a huge tire.
So I know the tongue weight is a concern, and the farther forward you move that truck on the trailer, the more weight will be on the 550's frame.... But with that load flung so far to the rear, what did you do to make it ride so stable? I would have expected that thing to be flapping around like a fish tail. Is that why the axles at the back of the trailer seemed so far apart; to help with that?
Good video. I love your truck tests; they are always transparent and contain great content. Quick question: on the climb, you keep the engine above 3000rpm; just curious if that's sustainable?
A lot of people dream of having a Lamborghini, Ferrari, or Porsche, but the Elevated Grid F550 is the vehicle I would pick if I was rich.
I say this every time the topic comes up. Most would pick a super car. Without any hesitation I’d pick my ideal SEMA diesel truck build.
I'd go for a Shelby F350 and then go for the MegaRaptor treatment
And get one in a different color for each day of the week.
You got that right brother!
I’m taking an f-250 6.7 Godzilla 💪 🇺🇸
This is 100% of why I come to TFL, that 2020 comparison of all three manufacturers is still being referenced on many other TH-cam Channels. We need More of this.
Now these are the type of content we enjoy. Been watching this channel 4 years now.
Thank you for watching.
No 7.3 am3icans always are bigger and then we hopped up. More . We dont care of California EPA
The people at Elevation have impeccable taste. This truck is stunning.
Truck is incredible!!!!!!!!!! Holy shit!!!!
Having Mr. Truck and Andre every Saturday morning reminds me of being a kid on Saturday mornings waking up to my favorite cartoons😊 great video guys.
But today is Saturday ?😊
@@9663mu that’s true. That’s what happens when you work everyday. All days blend together.
Thank you for watching and your kind words.
@@wesshepard much respect to you sir.
Which one is Bugs Bunny?
It seems a massive error to us factory differentials intended for the factory tire height. The new tires are 30% taller! At minimum youre down 30% of the mechanical advantage.
This setup is a high output engine and corrected differentials away from being ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! I love it so much.
I mean the stock rear end is pretty low
That truck looks badass!!!
People don't understand how badly giant tires kill the power of a vehicle. Even going from 35s down to 33s wakes up the power. Those 41s look amazing, but the truck could greatly benefit from a much steeper gear. 4.88 or steeper would be preferable.
Spot on
Youd be suprised with the 10 speeds these days. They dont need real low gearing bc the space between gears is short. Ive got 37” on my 22 with 3:31 gears and honestly it does great. If i pull 8k or up i just put it in 9th and it doesnt have an issue.
Isn’t 488 standard in the F-550 resends??
Would love to see Andre demonstrate changing a flat w/ those 41s
Very cool! Our company just did a 44in super single conversion on our F450 single cab. Talk about a monster. Plus, the single cab gives the truck an insane turning radius. We just produced our first video on the project.
Remarkable performance from a "small" 6.7L engine considering average semi truck engine is 13 or 15L.
Kind of, semis total weight combined can be 80,000lbs
Same power too
@@Fucktard2 Less than 3 up that hill specifically. I'm sure your CAT isn't getting that 4-10 up that mountain. In general though I agree. The right sized engine for a specific job will have the lowest fuel burn.
@@Fucktard2 Your cat 3406e will no doubt last many hundreds of thousands of miles, if not more. But it's not getting better mileage up this grade while pulling a 'tiny' load of 30000lbs. Getting the same mileage would be quite a feat for the Cat, actually.
That's one big Reason this truck deserve a
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Rating ‼️
It's an OFF Road Crawler for
pete's sake 😲 ‼️
And it can Haul 27 thousand Pounds 😳❗
AND can Rise it self like the Best Swamp Trucks . . .
Give me a Break 🙄 // 😎🤙
I know this channel mainly reviews new trucks but I would love to see you guys mix it up and compare some older trucks to newer ones. I'd love to see either a vp44 or common rail 5.9 cummins, a lb7 duramax, 7.3 powerstroke, etc.
The Big Truck Boys are at it again! Andre and Mr. Truck on a Saturday morning is perfect! Keep it going, guys!
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I'm a professional truck driver and with cummins engine in either kw or international with 12 speed transmission pulling 30,000 in the Midwest states we are getting 8-9 mpgand that's running 68mph
THATS AN ABSOLUTELY BADASS BEAUTIFUL TRUCK
From a chevy guy- bad ass video!
I hope you guys do this exact test with a stock F550 to show how inefficient heavy mods like huge tires + stock gearing, kill performance.
I love lifting and modifying trucks, but when its a truck that needs to be used for heavy duty work, those mods are just pointless unless you like cruising the malls
It ran up the IKE at the speed limit for rigs and only required brakes 3x.
This isn’t just lifting a truck lol
The 35 mph down hill and braking was fine, but going up there is no special speed limit for rigs. And it was pegged out at 35 mph and had nothing more, bigger tires and the wrong axle gearing effect that massively. I've lifted and modified lifted trucks for decades and unloaded they are fun, but when I fully load them I always wish I left them stock.
With a 10 speed, all those words you said are meaningless.
Worse case scenario, the truck would operate as a 6 speed while towing
With a 10 speed transmission, gearing is virtually meaningless
@@LV4TD101 exactly. Modofying is like an illness for me aswell. i love them stock then the same truck modified drives by and i start dreaming ha ha
@@LV4TD101 just regear appropriately.
They don't put the high output in the 550's because of the higher duty cycle a commercial truck is expected to be able to run at.
I've towed 28,000 pounds with a 30 foot Gooseneck flatbed trailer up a 7% grade with cruise set on 55 in fifth gear in my 2019 F450. Only deviated by 2 mph.
No kidding it would drive me nuts going that slow with the rpms that high
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Ford does not offer the 6.7 high output or the 6.7 standard
Pickup Engine in the cab and chassis models including this f550. Ford uses a 6.7 that is
Dyno tested and has different parts including a cast iron egr
Vs the standard aluminum in the pickup version
I love this truck! In all fairness, you should put the maverick and it's test load in the back of this and see how quickly it climbs the Ike!lol!
I’d love to see what would happen if you lowered this kind of weight onto a Maverick! 😂 they would need to contract out Whistling Diesel for that test.
Andre, I hope next week you test the F450 with that 40K load on the IKE!!!👍👍
FORD BABY!! GM would explode on exit.
That is the most badass truck on the planet…. 😍😍😍
Great video, love Mr. Trucks humor. Stop by Burger King and get you one of those crowns. Andre immediately changed the subject. Lol Great Video!
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I’ve watched you guys from the very beginning and there’s a certain magic in how you all collaborate and turn out excellent quality. I like all of you, but my spot on favourite is Ken, aka Mr. Truck, especially when he’s teamed with Andre, as they are hilarious, but professional, in providing the details. Everyone is great!
You know ive done 24k lbs in my 06 f350 single wheel on a 9% grade now it is moded and make about the same as a new HO and it held the speed limit with my foot on the floor temps where great and the down hill with the trans was great not that much braking needed
The truck has an effective 3.34 ratio with those large tires. If i was towing with large tires like that id start with more than 4.3
Need to install the under hood insulation. You will be amazed how much it helps on noise.
I would like to see this thing go from North Phoenix up to cordes junction in the summertime.... Now that's a towing test because beginning🌡️is about 120° & 110° when you get to your destination + 1 hell of a climb! 1,100' elevation up to 3,700' elevation... Where I'm from (phx) 73° is damn near cold 🥶 lol 🤙💯👌
Mr Truck and Andre is the best team we can have, thanks. I dont know what you normally say in US, but I think its nice when you say we instead of I, my or mine talking about the truck, because Mr Truck is also taking deal of this testing, good luck😊
Thanks
My Saturday here in Central Idaho wouldn’t be the same without Andre and Mr Truck.
This was a great episode for me as I’ve been following all the 550 coverage at tfl. I am considering a single wheel conversion for my new full power- power stroke f450 pickup.
But, after leaving multiple voicemails on the elevation sight, I have never received a call back..todays episode has me thinking a gear swap should be included in one of these conversions to keep the performance where it needs to be for pulling.
Thanks again for such a great video.
Thanks
As a daily/work truck/toy hauler. It looks like a good choice👍
Please do the EOG Ram 5500 so we can compare the two!!!!
22:33 That Duramax goes flying by with 12k pound 5th wheel 😆
73 degrees a really warm day?
Southerners are laughing right now 😂
Now this is very impressive!
0:09 !! F550 pickup!! 😲! What’s ram doing!
With those big tall 42” tire your gear ratio has went to he’ll probably more like 3.37 ratio !
It’s close to a semi truck, however you can’t get over the tires and turn radius your truck will always turn better than a semi since the tires are much much smaller as well as height being low to the ground (compared to a semi) so you have to worry less about high center of gravity, also you don’t have air breaks so breaking is completely different for you.
That’s a nice Ford
What a truck! Makes my '21 Titan look like a Tina
They should make them like that and call them super duper duty
Finaly we have a f550 with a pick up bed and not just a cab and chasis
The engineer said to use cruise control on the downhill. Hopefully you use it on the factory truck test. Why not downshift when it's going that slow up
Please run the test with the EOG Ram 5500!!! Awesome test! Thank you!
I do it all the time with my F450, 550 is a defunded truck
Great video! We love watching the Saturday morning TFL Truck videos.
Wow that's a big boy truck!
It is on the commercial chassis which not only means it's not a high output, but it is actually detuned from the regular output.
Edit: I made this comment when Mr truck first made the high output comments. Andre later clarified the numbers with this engine.
What a beast of a truck!
This was very interesting but i would like to see you guys do an Ike with stock chassis cab trucks with de-rated diesels and compare the Ram vs Ford vs Chevy
they arent derated. EPA requires EGR open at WOT. pickups aren't required to do that. you can only feed so much fuel when 25% of your air has no oxygen to burn.
Impressive performance!
37,500 GVWR Its offical theirs TWO Mr.trucks in the cab keep up the great work driver.
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Good video glad to see Mr Truck back in them
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You two are great together.
I want the LMTV and a A92 on it's bed. Best overland vehicle of all times
Liquid Spring! They’re awesome!
Great video. Bad Ass truck, straight wheel base in rear instead of dually Awesome!! What size is fuel tank ?
aw-yeahing the entire time. man, 550 !!
if the odometer is off so were the MPG readings. Did they not readjust the spedometer? It was going faster and at higher MPG
As far as I know ford doesn't have the program out to adjust 21+ wheel speed sensors my 150 is off by 3mph at 70 on 35" tires
Doing the math their average actual speed during the run is 37 ish MPH. 13 minutes and 8 miles traveled. FWIW🤷♂️
Chassis cab engines are de tuned for commercial usage.
Ford Maverick: you
Ford F550: the friend she says you not to worry about
Actually impressed with how it done considering the tires, weight, gearing ect. Wonder why it didnt want to downshift from 5th thought until the very end. I would have thought it would have downshifted to get into the HP a little more.... wonder whay the time would be if you manually shifted it down into 4th or 3rd for the run?
20 psi of boost and 2,000 rpm in fifth gear towing 27,000 pounds sounds like a bad idea to me.
Severly downrated horsepower @ just 330, compared to F250/350/450 versions, so it pretty muck runs on torque alone !!
@@arkhsm its because EPA forces EGR open at WOT. the pickups dont have that requirement.
4.88s should be mandatory with the tall tires. I think it would have faired better.
I wasn’t aware that ford had a commercial version of that motor and that it differs from the f-250. Wonder what they do differently to call it commercial vs non
Less power less torque and cast iron EGR
Nice guys!!
Look like that F-550 is based off the Ford-550 military rhino vehicle but in a pickup version 😛😛 that is badass i want one.
Those tires certainly aren’t helping uphill performance 😬
Building a truck like that, with that wheel and tire setup, they should have started with a truck that had a bigger rear end. That would make a BIG difference towing, especially with a huge tire.
not a fan of most modified trucks I see, but the owner did a pretty good job keeping this one clean- looks great.
the 550 makes the raptor look like a little boy now lol
I was halfway through the video before I realized this was a Ford! It's hard to recognize a Ford without the rainbows.
Mr Truck and Andrew nice to see this I follow you from Sweden😍
But, now I want one of these trucks.
Welcome back mrTruck!
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Nice Ford 550
Love that truck. Wayyyyyyy out of my price range...
Nice beast 💪
Will pull the 40,000 lbs load easy
Watching TFL Truck content like this video effectively raised my testosterone levels by 38%...
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Is the 330hp/ 950tq cab chassis version of the 6.7?
perfect wheel and tire's choice. i hate it when people put hideous wheels on beautiful trucks like this. Maybe the sexiest F truck ive ever seen
Baby don’t hurt me is the perfect song haha
You guys should run from pagosa springs to south fork and back over wolf creek pass.
I hope you guys will try out the HO FORD, to see how it tows.
This is coming next week.
Coolant temperature is high 228 degrees, I seen the gauge climb until fan finally came on
You may want to re-edit video at end that shows mpg. The pop-up on screen shows MPH. Was a little confusing when I first saw it.
That Medium Duty Hino boxtruck didn't seem troubled by the uphill
I love my super singled f-450
Dang it, now I feel the need to go to Burger King for a paper crown. 🤣 Mr. Truck you are a hoot. 🦉
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It would be great if they did the same up with the Dodge Ram 5500.
I love to see the performance and tow comparison
2023 doesn't have the 4.80 rear end option. It stops at 4.3.
Great content! I’m curious how the HO will perform on the same trail.
I'm sure we'll find out
So I know the tongue weight is a concern, and the farther forward you move that truck on the trailer, the more weight will be on the 550's frame.... But with that load flung so far to the rear, what did you do to make it ride so stable? I would have expected that thing to be flapping around like a fish tail. Is that why the axles at the back of the trailer seemed so far apart; to help with that?
Awesome video! Cross chaining like that as a primary means of load securement is not safe. If you loose one chain you effectively loose all corners.
Finally testing a big boy toy!
Good video. I love your truck tests; they are always transparent and contain great content. Quick question: on the climb, you keep the engine above 3000rpm; just curious if that's sustainable?
I have to wonder; if the exhaust brake was put on full instead of auto, how many brake applications would there be? I suspect zero.
4/5 for me but awesome truck for sure. Thanks for the video.