New HD RECORD? 2023 Ford F-350 vs. 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500HD on the World's Toughest Towing Test!
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- ( www.allTFL.com ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our TFLstudios content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this massive Ike Gauntlet challenge, Andre and Mr. Truck pitch the 2023 Ford F-350 Limited dually Power Stroke diesel against the 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500 HD dually Duramax turbo diesel. Which one will come out on top?
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:24 Laying out this Ike Gauntlet challenge
2:26 2023 Ford F-350 Limited DRW: Downhill
5:24 More on the trailer
6:21 Ford F-350 Dowhill (continued)
8:04 Ford F-350 payload/towing info & downhill result!
9:45 Ford F-350 Uphill test and results
17:40 Measuring squat & hitching up the Chevy Silverado 3500HD
21:26 Chevy Silverado 3500HD DRW: Downhill
26:45 Chevy Silverado 3500HD payload/towing info
28:59 Chevy Silverado 3500HD: Uphill
37:34 The scores!
40:29 Verdict
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How can watching trucks crawling up a mountain be SO entertaining?? 😂. Great job guys!
😆……….it always is!! 😁👈🏽
Cause it's man stuff lol. I have a Nissan Frontier.... Not a lot of towing capability. But when I pull a trailer I feel awesome. It's work but damn is it fun man. It's guy stuff and I have no idea why!
Weird, isn't it! 😅
Maybe you should do these runs with different diesel Fuels. I want to see how renewable Diesel performs.
@@johnrose7212 you make a good point for many reasons. Sure a brand new truck did great on its first run. Duh! Do it 50 times. That's a true test of the truck. I know that's impossible for these guys and it's not a dis on the channel at all. However I'd assume nobody buys a 100,000 dollar truck too tow a heavy trailer once..
Mr. Truck and Andre on Sat. morning, Doesn't get any better than that !
it’s these and carwow drag races…great sat morning “CARtoons”
Maybe you should do these runs with different diesel Fuels. I want to see how renewable Diesel performs.
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Watching TFL on Saturday is a vital part of Saturday
It’s crazy how impressive all these trucks are. It’s so close it really comes down to which truck you think looks better. As a superduty owner I wouldn’t be disappointed if I had either of these
For towing often Ford would be the pick
It also means that you can largely shop based on which truck is the best deal at the time you are buying without looking too much deeper.
@@CoyoteFTWrams are used more in hot shot due to Cummins
@@mikewarren1401I have been seeing a crazy amount of the 2023 F450s among hotshotters nowadays
@@raifparker3990 there is no replacing a inline 6 however
I live in Iowa.... These 2 guys could give a play by play of corn growing and I would probably watch it.
It is always enjoyable to watch Mr. Truck and Andre on the IKE. Thank you gentlemen and the camera crew for another fun video. Love the Banks adapter for the truck. Hope you stay safe and healthy and really nice to see Mr. Truck looking healthy and young.
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Mr. Truck and Andre always a great duo! “You’ve complained a lot over the past 10 years” Andrea goes back “you have to” lol awesome videos, look forward to every Saturday morning.
i agree! And i just noticed a funny typo, you accidentally called Andre... Andrea. haha it happens
They go together like Meat & Potatoes!
Mr. truck standing like an npc at the end lol
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I live in Western Norway and am surrounded by fjords, lakes, glaciers and other beautiful landscape, but I have to say that watching the footage from Colorado really blows me away, it's so beautiful! Sometimes I just pause the video in fullscreen 4K just to enjoy the view :-D
You misspelled Ford 😅
@@failranch9542no fjords, the geographical term. Pronounced like "fyord"
@@trentopinto5 it was a joke dude. That’s what the emoji means.
@failranch9542 that's not how you use that emoji but okay😂
Norway very beautiful. How much wildlife do you see in Norway?
If you ever visit Colorado take the train across the Rocky Mountains.
Extremely capable trucks. Just took a trip out west and enjoyed a ride up and down I70 through the tunnel. I own an F350 but you cannot deny how competitive all these trucks are.
The irony of Andre driving a Chevrolet and saying that the Ford was “Like a Rock”
It's probably hard for people to Comprehend that don't live in Denver that haven't towed heavy up Eisenhower how insane that pull is I do it twice a week in my semi. Hauling 78 GVVW and it's a monster
Even not towing heavy, it sucks the power out of an engine. I was driving in 2003 my 02 Honda S2000 up the west slopes (heading east) and was wondering WHY my car wouldn't accelerate any more till I saw the sign showing the elevation that I was at!
I took my 1969 VW Bus up the Ike. Didn't make it.
@@gerritfridericksohn4627 my father had a 1972 one, it regularly blew up engines when my family tried to go over various mountain passes. Our family friends that also had that vehicle had similar problems. 😂
I’ve driven both directions all the way through Colorado many times and you’re right it kicks the ass of a semi. 80k with 550hp and it’s 35-40mph with the fan on and I’ve had to pull over to cool down close to the top because my oil temp was over 250
I was up there two weeks ago and drove up and down the pass and it was making it a serious challenge for the 2022 4Runner rental I had!!!
Andre, Mr Truck. Really enjoyed this heavyweight episode, well done! Look forward to seeing how the Ram compares.
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Thank you guys for making wonderful videos to watch my kid's and wife enjoy. Keep up the great work
Thanks for watching
I always waiting for this videos of TFL! Great and interesting videos all times ! Keep on doing 👌👌
Thank you for watching.
Interesting that the Ford has 30 hp and 230 lb*ft more, yet the Chevy was only 13 seconds slower up the Ike, and got better fuel mileage.
11 seconds...the ford time was 10:06
The Ford was heavier because of a different trim level. It takes x amount of energy to move x mass x distance in x amount of time. In the end game, they are so close it doesn't matter, and it's about what you like more than anything else.
@CajunWolffe thats the dumbest excuse I've ever heard. That trim level didn't add anything substantial but a bunch of electronics. And not 230 lb ft of torque worth.😂
Heavier of what 100lbs ?
That 0.1 mpg really isn't better. It's almost the same.
I love you guys reviews, I really enjoy watching your reviews and the info you put out.
At $100,000 the Ford dash shook so bad thought it was gonna fall into Mr. Truck lap. I also notice no wheel well liners Ford at $100,000 and limited trim this truck should have everything plus a sink and fridge
That’s the camera mount vibrating causing lens distortion. Dummy
Whiner
The dash wasn't shaking, it's the stick-on camera mount sitting on a padded door panel.
I would expect it to be a record with all that power!
I love that you guys are doing this in what I'm assuming is June. Summer heat is a thing, testing these trucks on the Ike in June is perfect. Let's us know if these trucks can pull max load up the Ike in high temps. Thank you guys for all your work. Much appreciated.
Thanks for watching
@@MrTruckTVdo you notice a loss of boost or power at high altitudes & temps because the intercoolers are less efficient under those conditions? Thanks
Very little with a turbo diesel@@ArmyProperty
@@MrTruckTV thanks!
I don’t understand how the Chevy has 225 pound feet less than the Ford, and can basically keep up. Seems that either the Ford is overrated or the Chevy is underrated.
Manufacturers are claiming peak torque numbers that are only available on an engine dyno. GM peak torque is at 1800 rpm, but the transmission tuning will never let it operate there, it’ll force a shift. The numbers are a silly game, what matters is how it puts it to the ground.
@@brucecollins8865 You can actually lock the Ford in to a specific gear.
They never stated rear gear ratio on each truck……???
What the other people said, just because they advertise a “peak” number doesn’t mean it’s actually useful in most situations. It be much more meaningful if they’d post an average torque number or even an actual dyno chart.
The Chevy also did the climb with lower fluid temperatures. I’ll take 17 extra seconds to climb this hill if the components stay cooler.
i have the 2021 Ford F350 dually and i love it! Yes, i watched your previous comparison videos which assisted in me making my decision.
weirdly enough, ive enjoyed this video more than the last few sports car drag races on other channels. I must secretly enjoy slow moving trucks towing heavy loads 🤔 haha. Good job fellas.
Me too
You guys are on fire. Great video
Thanks for the kind comment!
Thank you guys 👍. I love tech and Ford seems to be innovators in that dept. You should of showcased the onboard scale...
Love your videos. Very informational!
Love these videos on Saturday morning! Does Mr. Truck ever get to drive?
Yeah, what's up with that
For a long time he was the only one who legally could.
Finally someone just came out and said it about the bumper step. One of the best simple innovations in modern trucks…..9 years ago.
More than that- the Avalanche had it 20 years ago.
Been waiting on this for a long time.
Nothing better on a Sat morning than Andre, Mr. Truck and the Ike. I think a great show idea would be an HD dually vs a Medium Duty truck
I can think of a few things that are better. Clams, pink snapper and beaver to name a few.
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I am shocked at the uphill performance of the Chevy. On paper, the Ford should win by a mile. This is why factory numbers don't mean anything.
I bought a 2022 Duramax brand new. I wanted the F350, but was told 10 months wait. I was shocked by how well the Duramax does pulling my 42 for 5th wheel through these same roads. The 10 speed Allison (in name only) does...
It did well, but those numbers definitely showed. I expect the Ram to be considerably further behind
I’d like to see what these trucks weigh. With the ford being a fully optioned truck and with 12 extra gallons of fuel I wonder if the ford is heavier?
if you look at last 10+ years you would notice that same trend. Chevy is lowest on hp/torque numbers but matches the other 2 even when down a bit on power.
I swear you fan boys can find an excuse for anything
Banks did a pretty good dyno video on the new Duramax explaining how the new engine is making more effective and usable torque not just chasing a peak number. Its worth a watch for sure.
That always seems to be the duramaxs MO, I just wish they had wider seats for my fat butt and a E-coated frame and I’d be there tomorrow
Those Ford and Dodge guys are so rara about their "high output" trims, but Chevy doesn't need a high output🤷♂️
@@Magucci13 idk if you watched the same video but the Chevy lost like it always has it’s never beaten Ford up this climb. I agree tho Ford didn’t whoop chevy butt too bad cqorth celebrating I guess ???
@@declanstoyyard585 see I’m the opposite about the Fords. The seats just feel odd to me but I’ve also got a back injury that enhances the uncomfortable seat for me.
@@CoyoteFTW yep, because that's totally worth the 35k more... For my money, the more efficient, colder truck is the one best made for the job. If you're so worried about times. Throw a tuner on both trucks and the Ford will fall on it's face.
The brake thing though, I have no idea. I'd just throw it in manual and leave it in the gear I need
Great video guys!! Beautiful trucks
I haven't watched the video yet but I wanna give it a thumbs up already! This is like the Rumble in the Jungle ! The Thrilla from Manila ! LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE
Two Great trucks! The price for both are ridiculous.Thanks for the video!
200k in a couple of years 😂
The Chevy was pretty decent I think. Hell a half ton Denali Ultimate cost that much. Think its pretty reasonable being able to get a 1 ton dually that isn't optioned as much as the Ultimate but its close enough for the same price but at a 1 ton instead of a half ton
You guys did a great job on comparing those two monsters and that’s what consumers are looking for before buying. Really appreciated and keep it up
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Great video guys, enjoy the cab chatter & truck info. The DuraMax was more impressive than expected, haven't looked at powermax for awhile, it's made great improvement. Several comments that include Big Trucks/Tractor while comparing to F350 Dually... a Pickup. At 500hp & 1200 Torque, that's outstanding for a Pickup stock powertrain. Rams were super but last 4 yrs haven't kept up... The 6.7 HO Power Stroke is currently the leader "Pickup" in power specs & tow specs, out torquing the Ram I6 Cummins is impressive. DuraMax is lowest of 3 in power specs, it may leapfrog and surprise us in a few years.
I used to use manual shifting going down hill then Ford did recall and recalibrated the F-150 Powerstroke based on these videos. Now i use cruise control like Andre going down hill towing my camper. This method works on the Fords....
Noone mentioned that Chevy accelerated 0-60mph much faster than Ford?
Yup, less power less torque and still SMOKED THE POWER JOKE.
yeah, ford need to work a little more harder to beat the chevy.
I agree seemed effortless to me ... plus less $ & great features. I'm wondering what the High Country trim offers 💪🏽
There was massive head wind when the Ford went up hill :)
and still finished 14 secs behind, not too impressive
I will be finding my future wife by describing her the way Mr truck describes the Chevy fender 😂
It's pretty but these are work trucks and those fenders are likely to be pretty damaged. At the cost of body work, bolting on a new fender sounds like function over form.
Yes, great American thighs, I think there is a song about that
Man that was cool thank you for that information.
Good job. Good info
I'd wonder if there would be a difference with regular cruise mode VS. adaptive cruise mode. The adaptive cruise is extremely brake happy in my 2024 GMC 3500
At 2.5Mpg pulling that heavy load, a 48 gal tank is a must.
yeah so that means like 100 miles on a tank lol
These are the kinds of tests many viewers enjoy. It’s a legit real world test of a vehicle and capabilities. As much as I enjoy them though, I can’t bring myself to buy a $100k for personal use. Now if I was hot shot or construction crew, that’s a different story.
I love the video. Wonder if the banks tuner was upping the tune on the chevy or just giving you data?
Hey, who doesn’t love a sexy rear……… fender?! 😂
Great job, once again, to the two manliest of truck men 🤜🤛👏👍
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18:29 Those are jounce bumpers and not traditional bump stops. Meaning you still have more travel after the jounce bumper comes in contact with the axle. Those are similar to things like Timbren SES or SuperSprings.
They should know that as many cars as they review, definitely drop the ball some times.
Awesome as usual guys!
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These trucks are really incredible. I have a 22 Chevy 2500 LTZ and the 6.6 is a dream to drive. Yanked a 6k truck one time and the truck handles amazing
Great work guys! Damn good watch!
I’m a little disappointed you guys didn’t grab the F450 “pickup not cab&chassis” for this run. Figured you’d go with the top dog. Still impressive though 👍
That and can’t wait to see the current HO Cummins. You guys haven’t tested it since its power bump to 420hp and 1075ft lbs
Cummins isn't known to be the fastest but it is known to have the best longevity
The F450 wouldn't improve on what you see here much, maybe a little faster uphill because of the shorter gears
Being in the market for a dually for towing, this was extremely helpful. The gauge cluster on the Ford and how it maintained speed down the hill was awesome. But are those same features available on a XL or XLT model? I’ll have to look into that. Cause i really don’t need a limited truck just to tow.
Thank you once again guys. Looking forward to how the Ram does.
As someone who is a massive Cummins fan boy, if you get a Ram, by a 13-18. The newer trucks all have issues. I think the 20/21s were pretty good but avoid 22/23. The lifters and cams all get chewed it which is such a damn shame. Banks actually did a great break down on the new Duramaxs on how they improved a lot on the newer ones.
Avoid newer vehicles if possible, especially Rams, they are asking for way too much in cost for the same truck design they had years ago, barely any changes made or at best a mild refresh yet are asking for prices like it was a new model Chevy. Seriously GM has actually made proper changes, still they are way too expensive but it's not like it the exact same.
@@LucasLeCompteMusicI had a buddy that ran oil crews. He had 6 Rams (roughly 2018ish) crack the heads between cylinders 5-6 and were slowly spewing coolant out the exhaust, not that they could tell for a whole, though. One truck did this 3 times. He runs Fords now.
It broke down on the way there😅
@@LucasLeCompteMusic i just sold a 2017 and it had issues with ABS control module. 2017-18,s are having bad issues and Ram doesnt have a fix for this. I am buying the 2024 chevy 3500 LTZ tomorrow!
Great guys! And Mr Truck will actually call and talk to you! I called him about a hitch i was looking at.
You guys got lucky at the end with traffic, great runs
Great video. I’d like to see it done with the gasser versions of these trucks
We would love to do that if we can get the trucks.
@@TFLtruckyou should do a 1 ton gas max ike for all 4 gas engine offerings (Ford 7.3/6.8, GM 6.6 and Ram 6.4). I'd say a 17k load up the ike with these engines would be the ultimate test, especially with GMs 10 speed for the 6.6 gas and the new 6.8 mini zilla. If you do that test can you do a shout out to me? Thank you for your very awesome and informative episodes!👍👍
@@TFLtruck can you do an over lap on them to show where each truck is side by side?
Max towing test with vans! Promaster, Transit HD and Chevy Express 6.6L gas!
Thanks for putting the rubber to road, it really lets the cream rise to the top with true comparisons.
Love you guys - best reviewers by far
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Andre change the cruise control from adaptive cruise to regular cruise. Regular cruise will use the retarder in the transmission and not the brakes as much. It should tell you on the dash how to switch to the different cruise controls
Love the comparison. Have owned both powerstroke and now have a duramax. Reason I now have duramax, price. Not enough difference to spend more on one vs the other.
Actually it depends. For me that does hot shot trucking I’ll rather pay that extra money and have a better towing capacity to make more money on my runs. Pretty much thanks to the extra towing the truck pays itself. Gonna trade my 2021 GMC 3500 Dually for the 2023 F350 Dually pretty soon
I got a after market 60 gallon gas tank in my tremor and I love it!
When you want to see who’s truck performs best there is one place to go, TFL!!!
I would chose the chevy! They went into the engine and reworked it for better efficiency/ performance, and the cooling! Not to mention quiet cab
Good luck....... GM is building garbage for vehicles you would be stuck with the biggest lemon money could buy
@@toddbob55 Ford is Garbage!...I will take the Chevy hands down...
My good friend " thought he was gonna try a Ford 1 ton recently, papers written up etc!,went for 1 final test drive before buying,said he couldn't do it,Chevy felt as good and it was the ride comfort that he couldn't give up, traded his 23 in for a new 24.😊
And by the way hos last 2 Chevrolets have been flawless! My friends GMC the same thing!! Awesome trucks period.
I dream about that trailer too Mr. Truck 👍
Yean, very nice
Can’t wait to see the single wheel shootout
2 words breaks the tie. Massaging Seats! So awesome.
I believe the LTZ breaking is more of a surge break application as you would do in a semi on a steep grade to prevent the breaks and rotors from overheating. I noticed it slowed to about 3 mph below 35 and ran out to about 3 mph over before initiating another break application. In the big rig I was taught to break to 5 under desired speed and run out 5 over before breaking and holding to the 5 under. Either way I’ve always been a Ford man but after 35 years I think I’m going give the Chevy a go. Great video!
Its called snub braking in the trailer trucking world.
I know you're testing the cruise control ,but don't most people use manual mode going up and down grades or is that just me? I like to have it locked into gear and not shifting.
I keep coming back to your channel for videos on this challenge. Very entertaining. Btw one major flaw with the mpg challenge today, which is Toyota or Honda doesn’t take 85. It only Takes 87 and above.
Since you ran these trucks under CMV regulations, and despite Ram not being present at this time, I’m surprised you didn’t call this video the “Hot-Shot” special! Liked what I did there?…one ton dullies pulling a heavy load 😅✌🏼
Great! Would love to see how they compare to the 7.3 Powerstroke and 6.5 Detroit Diesel on the Ike!
Maybe one that's been tuned by BANKS
Lol a 6.5 would barely pull itself up that mountain, never mind 20k of trailer lol
@@alexmills1329 when she blows up it would leave an oil trail for about twenty feet
If you could think outside the box for a minute, one thing that has worked great for years was to run a 366 Chevy big block in a Chevy two wheel drive truck pulling a 7000 pound car trailer, you could not ask for more
They were both gutless.
Excellent video guys!! Interesting results for sure.... what were the rear end ratios? I know Chevy only comes with the 3:42 option, but what about the Ford? Bet it was a lower gear, yet with much less torque, the Chevy got to 60 sooner and almost kept up for the whole run. That just shows that these trucks are all getting so powerful that a few hundred foot pounds won't really matter... it's more about mapping and how they're able to put it down. Also, gathering info from several sources, it seems the PowertStroke truly likes to run hot, which OK that's alright I guess (not that 230 coolant is comfortable), but a 30-40 degree difference in trans temp between the Chevy and Ford can't be helping in overall longevity. The other things several sources seem to state is that the Ford rear end can't quite handle the heavy load as well, and ends up on the bump stops.
I will say though, it's disappointing to see that the Chevy didn't do better downhill, despite the fact that they've updated the turbo, valves, and exhaust brake to be stronger than previous year.
Also Ford is killing it with the gauge game. They went from having the shittiest gauges just showing approximates on a "bar", to now by far having the best and most comprehensive gauges. Great job!
Thanks 3.55 for Ford 3.42 for Chevy
Check out the Banks exhaust brake system--just by controlling the turbo vanes it's much more powerful than any factory option.
That Diamond C trailer is badass! 🤑🤑🤑
As a commercial tire installer for over 15 years Ivan tell you those caps (flow through) are useless, and a large contributor to "run flats". ✌️Be safe...love the channel!
The Chevy passed the brake test; you did not end up on an emergency (stop) ramp 😊
You can’t go wrong with either of these trucks, they’re both incredible and probably more capable than most of their owners (cough, no CDL,cough). I think the the Chevy has a larger diameter fan based on the height of that front end compared to the Ford, which actually looks small next to the Chevy. This allows it to run quieter since it doesn’t have to spin as fast for the same CFMs as the Ford. This also means, since it’s clutched, it doesn’t pull as much power from the engine to spin. But I’m probably the only one who likes the sound of a truck fan roaring. To me it sounds like POWWHA!!!
Fan sound , feels like power??
Really???
Nice try Chevy guy!!
Typical!!
Give me more power, not more fan sound.
Fords power stroke for the win!!!
@metalted6128 Who gaf what you like. Dude gave his opinion on what he likes, and you gotta try to clown him with your opinion? Stfu...
Ya keep the loud fan I’ll take the truck with solid front and 1,200trq
Both are nice & both are monsters.
Love watching th twins 41:30 "Mr. Truck" do their thing.
Is it recommended to use Cruz controll pulling a heavy trailer and going up and down extreme hills ? Where’s is say from the manufacture for this use?
I'd have to say I was impressed with the Chevy.
Impressed with What!!?? Speed going up to 40 and down to 30 with cruise set at 35!!??. I dont know what you were looking at!!??
We got a Ford fan here that is a little bit mad😅 all he said is that he was suprise thats all
@@geezusmeatball1328 I must have hurt a Ford fanboys feelings with that comment. 🤣
I like both trucks but the only thing impressive about the chevy was that it didn't lose by more than it did. I think Chevy is very conservative with their HP/TQ numbers because that H.O. Powerstroke should have beat the Duramax by a lot more based on the advertised numbers. I wish they tested using a Lariat instead of the limited.
I love my Fords...but whoa, what a price difference between these two trucks. I know the Ford had a few more bells and whistles but that's a lotta money, especially seeing how close they finished. The Chevrolets rear fenders and bigger wheels and tires looked a ton better as well. I gotta hand it to Chevy...for that kinda money I'd pick them over the Ford.
There is one point us Northern people must remember. 10 years from now the GMs body will most likely be showing rust on the steel body components. That wont happen on an F series. A huge issue for the salt country folks which will affect value down the road big time. 😊
Compare the same trim truck which would be Dually 3500 Denali Ultimate and price is very close.
Same
To be fair, they had the wrong options for a towing test on this one. A Lariat F450 would have been a significantly better comparison to the Chevy. Two of the top-performing trucks with leather seats from each company, without a $15k price delta
10 years my truck will have been traded 3 times so that is completely irrelevant to me. Why would you even own one of these trucks out of warrenty. And as good as the trade in is who cares about extended warrenty. Trade in, write the check for difference and keep driving brand new.
Andre bring those trucks to show low az we have the salt river canyon that's 7 percent grade down and then back up the other side again, would be a good test.
Great video! Can't wait for the Ram review.
Chevy was quicker to 60, had better towing temperatures, less squat, better ride, slightly better fuel economy, more affordable, only 11 seconds difference at the top, and the fan isn't super annoying like the Ford. Throw in the price difference and I know which one I would choose.
Why are u hurt? Because the Chevy lost 😂😂.
GM is way better for far less money
@@jgc113 Since it's all subjective I'm simply saying why I think the Chevy is the better value.
Did I miss something? I thought the Ford was quicker? Just so you know, I have no dog in this fight since I own a Ram.
@@derekheuring2984he didnt say the chevy was quicker over all, just to 60. he said the difference is negligible and not worth the huge price difference
Love watching Mr. Truck and Andre. Maybe Mr. Truck can make a cameo driving the Ram?
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Nice hats! No cattle. I did notice that both trucks had sun roofs, and there was still enough head room that you could wear those hats comfortably.
Thank you for the videos you do. We really appreciate it. All 3 of the big names make really good trucks. It really comes down to your preference in your wallet.
500hp and 1000+ft/lbs isn't as good as semi's 10yrs ago my friend, it stacks right up with lots of modern offerings from Paccar and DD. Very impressive ratings, will love to see the longevity of this powertrain🤔
I'm my experience you don't get both, longevity or power, or fuel mileage everything has a compromise, I have had many engines in semi trucks, but I m back to a 12.7 60 series Detroit, not for the power but the fuel economy
I couldn't agree more!
I hate paccar's...
I miss my old C15😪
Give me an ol buzzin dozen and let it sing lol
I've noticed from owning a few GM trucks that they need brakes to cause the transmission to downshift, even in tow/haul
Ye my ford truck in tow haul brakes on its own then I use my foot when I really need to come to a stop !
I miss the the refill, especially when in the past those gauges were off most times.
In my mind the ever so slightly stronger uphill performance more than offsets 8 brake applications on the downhill. My view. Fun comparison. Still happy with my 1500, but fun to learn about the big guys.
I would really like to see you guys max out the Ford on the Ike. Maybe a run in the evening when traffic is less and it's cooler out.
They couldn’t even pull much over 40mph at the top with it pinned. What is your idea of maxed out? 😂
@@pryme2013 That's why I am curious about it maxed out. Seems like they over rate these trucks.
@@duggydo it was maxed out on this test already. It couldn’t pull that grade the whole way even at 45mph let alone 60.
@@pryme2013 I think it was under max on the Ford for what they rate it. Close to 10k pounds more is the max rating for that truck.
Great video guys! Question, which rear end did the Ford have? They come standard with a 3.55, but a 4.10 is optional.
This ford has a 3.55 rear axle ratio.
@thefastlanetruck, (on the way up the hill) have you guys thought about letting off the gas, then holding it to the floor to get the transmission to kickdown?
This test should really have been done in a Base model XL because lets be honest most people towing that kind of weight are going to be in those base model trucks doing it for work. An upper trim level personal truck is hardly ever be towing anything that heavy.
500HP and 1200 lbs of torque is what you might see in a 18-wheel commercial truck towing 80k lbs. Those numbers have been done with aftermarket upgrades but to have a emissions legal engine hit that much is amazing. I remember when DPF, and PTF filters were put on diesel trucks, and some said it wasn't possible to produce more power in a pickup engine and be emission legal.
More like 1800-2000lb ft of torque in commercial trucks.
@@kobybeougher7657 and even more if you are towing 80klbs lol
Was the hill decent option used during downhill portion?
You guys work good together
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I think the Allison transmission on the Chevy was able to rein in the power putting it to the ground better then the more powerful power stroke.
From what I understand they both have the same transmission.
GM and Ford Co built that 10 speed.
Yep and the transmission is only badge engineering. Allison only approved the 10spd they didn't build or engineer it.
@@akman1931 not on the HD trucks, The earlier Allison was completely built by Allison, the newer GMs with Allison was a Co design with Allison and GM
@@gamebredduramax71 Allison 10L1000 transmission is a fraternal twin of the Ford TorqShift 10 Speed 10R140. That is based on the Ford 6r140 that was used in the previous gen Superduty. In fact, the Allison 10L00 that is transmissions internal components are largely interchangeable with those of the Ford, who is the parent engineer of this product.
@@gamebredduramax71 GM transmission rebadged as an Allison, Allison had no part in the design.
The information is nice to have with the Ford, but Andrey is the last guy to have it. He is so distracted as a driver at any time and then he has a dash full of distractions. When the information wasn’t there it was way less distracting.
Putting it in cruise may generate more brake applications. The F350 having 3 brake applications is still really good though.
After watching Banks reveal the changes of the newly revised diesel in the DuraMax 6.6, I was sold on that engine! GM made the right changes and if you have a choice between a 2023 vs 2024 GM DuraMax for similar money, jump for the 2024!! Same with the gas GM HD trucks but because they now have the 10 speed transmission.
Ford also has a monster of a PowerStroke. They manage the power off the line quite heavily, but once on the move, they definitely do the job.
It’s a coin flip,,, get the brand you like!! 😊
Oh Snap, Andre said it! He gave Ford the Chevy motto “Like a Rock”! And we all agree😂
Would love to see them do the same test with the medium duty version.
37:10 Not bad at all considering 225 lb-ft torque difference
It’s not bad at all, but they are close on HP. Perhaps adding another 3,000lbs of towing weight would make the difference more clear, where the extra torque could help more.
Yep, it's more about hp when it comes to moving a set load at speed.