The BEST Method to Remove Rust PERMANENTLY!

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  • In this video we show you how to remove old rusted out paint and protect your project by using the proper primer. Sanding old paint is no easy task but the Paint Society team is on board to how you the best method for removing rusted surfaced quickly!
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  • @mustanguycm
    @mustanguycm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    As a painter i can say he is right about everything he said. The only thing that i would suggest is to do one coat of epoxy and then a second coat of regular (urethane) primer. This eliminates the hassle of sanding epoxy which as we know is very gummy to sand. Most epoxy primers have a darker color wich is good because it serves as a guide so you don't sand off too much material when preping for paint.

    • @patricksantana3337
      @patricksantana3337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are exactly right. Epoxies are by nature gummy and hard to sand but they have better adhesion properties than urethane primers. There are some "hybrid" epoxies that are easier to sand, but generally speaking, putting a urethane primer over the epoxy is an excellent recommendation.

    • @lyetorres3681
      @lyetorres3681 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One coat of epoxy, flash time, and second coat of 2kprimer?

    • @patricksantana3337
      @patricksantana3337 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lyetorres3681 Depending on temperature, 15-30 minute flash then the urethane primer. You have a relatively long window over the epoxy because they take a long time to cure.

    • @hernandez-tech6434
      @hernandez-tech6434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a question if I lay my epoxy do I wait 30 to 45 then shoot urethane or do I have to wait 24 hours before shooting urethane

    • @patricksantana3337
      @patricksantana3337 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hernandez-tech6434 You can apply the urethane any time after 15 minutes of the application of the epoxy,

  • @davemcelroy7984
    @davemcelroy7984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I switched to the Eagle sandpaper because of you. Best sandpaper I have ever used. Thanks again.

  • @deanbrown7643
    @deanbrown7643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not just showing a finished job love it from the start to the finish big up bro 👍👍👍

  • @mike479
    @mike479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great informative video. I spent my afternoon 80 grit sanding my roof to remove crows feet cracking from an accident repair. Came out great and was able to repair some rust starting along the top of the windshield. Ready for a 180 sand and epoxy now!

  • @HogshooterHotrods
    @HogshooterHotrods ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent video and great channel, I teach at the largest school for collision/refinishing in Oklahoma and use your videos frequently in class for some variety, because I agree with most all of what you do or show on the channel! Great job Brian!

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for sharing my channel with your students!

  • @MrMrdjoudi
    @MrMrdjoudi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a nice work, Brian. Really good base for later work.

  • @SCARHEMBROW
    @SCARHEMBROW ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Brian, I learn every time I watch your content ..thanks from the United Kingdom.

  • @Chevygang23LT
    @Chevygang23LT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man. Excited to the rest of this build!

  • @vasili70
    @vasili70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love Eastwood stuff. One day I will get the P500 and CC500. Been using the LT100 (had a small compressor), upgraded the compressor, now gotta wait for a sale!

    • @meanpaintandbody
      @meanpaintandbody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stay with the lt100 just buy 1 for base and 1 for clear 1 for primer and it will b better

  • @ericmark472
    @ericmark472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this video. I'm just starting to work on my truck and this came a great time. Planning to do metal repair/replacement and then sand and prime and then do remaining body work. Since it's cold up here in the northeast I don't think I can get my garage/shop to stay above 60 degrees for very long so I don't think I can spray.

  • @iiToNyXP
    @iiToNyXP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sanding my 95 c1500 roof right now came back to this video for some tips👍

  • @dcautowholesalecorppaintan2280
    @dcautowholesalecorppaintan2280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent work as always 😁

  • @salineselin2969
    @salineselin2969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've been absolutely loving your videos. They're honestly some of the most informative videos on the subject of automotive painting I've found. Almost has a "this old house" quality feeling. Have you used air powered random orbital sanders before? I've never used a direct radial sander for stripping before; I'm curious how they compare.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the comment! We use air da for sanding but they aren’t as aggressive to remove a lot of old paint

    • @MasterArmedforces
      @MasterArmedforces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaintSociety Do you have any insight on a remedy for fading topcoat paint on an 86 Mazda RX7?

  • @KingofStreet3
    @KingofStreet3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny I’m on rust duty for a van and this is exactly what I needed. Thanks for the video

  • @RecoveryRoomRestorations
    @RecoveryRoomRestorations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Always learning something from you, Brian! Also, thanks for putting in the links for the products you use!

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea. Hopefully it helps others !

  • @eddylorenzo5033
    @eddylorenzo5033 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I watch all ur videos I'm coming close to starting my 88 turbo 2 rx7 after that my 93 lx foxbody and My lexus sc400 which is black and that's the hardest gonna get ready to buy my guns and supplies u hit this detail for detail I can't wait bless u u've been great keep these video coming 👍☝️

  • @okrazyassboi27
    @okrazyassboi27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This what I been waiting on since I’m working on my 97 Yukon

  • @1rockymtnrider
    @1rockymtnrider 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need to do this to my suburban and was happy that I came across this video. I I really have a much better idea of how to seal the roof now.

  • @glytch5
    @glytch5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just did my entirely rusted out roof over 2 summers on my toyota, I was glad to see you left some of that super deep black pitting behind. I spent a LOT of hard work trying to remove that and c ould not, I just epoxied over it. I guess perhaps i'll be okay! Roofs are a SUPER PAIN! MAN all those other cars in the shop are COMPLETELY caked in dust!

    • @glytch5
      @glytch5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaintSociety It was based on my roof experience, I had a severe dust issue. I was hoping to see a better way to handle the dust.

  • @Paintvibes101
    @Paintvibes101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive learned so much from you....i watch all your videos its very helpful and educational thank you

  • @Formulabruce
    @Formulabruce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brian, I think we need to get you up to New England, THEN discuss Rust!! This truck is a "PUFF" ! Great Video, as always! Envy your Temps!

  • @manuelmejia76
    @manuelmejia76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the say n don't over think it it's jus paint I have mentality now I use it in my every day life like my job in hvac keep them videos coming I really learn alot thanks again

  • @AB-C1
    @AB-C1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, cheers from London England 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎

  • @JamesBond-yw3dj
    @JamesBond-yw3dj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this project, keep the vids coming. Those reucks are bullet proof.

  • @CBiskitone
    @CBiskitone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been looking for a video like this for a long time. I have a 1992 Nissan D21 I’m working on and want to do as much as I can.

  • @husky1239
    @husky1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for the next episode thank you brian

  • @almendarez033
    @almendarez033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My man god bless you!!!!!as for the knowledge to pass forward.

  • @TLInterests
    @TLInterests ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy your videos, learn alot!

  • @joesuperczynski1097
    @joesuperczynski1097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, as always!

  • @danielrobillard2162
    @danielrobillard2162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wanted to say first, thank you for all the knowledge!! I appreciate you and the content.
    Do you have a video directed towards minor fender rust repaint and hood rock chips repairs? Keep crushing it!

  • @paintcar8262
    @paintcar8262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work!! 👍🏻

  • @soxplayer3907
    @soxplayer3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really learn a lot from watching your vids thank you for taking the time and effort to show people how to do it themselves...👍👀

  • @chadmandt3185
    @chadmandt3185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is making me want to get back into painting:)

  • @midnighttutor
    @midnighttutor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this presentation. Would you please comment on why you prefer sandpaper for removing the old paint to those purple strip disks?

  • @10mmfan
    @10mmfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video and I have done this. My problem is the fine airborne dust that covers everything in my garage much like it covered the vehicles around you. After my last project I have fine paint dust in areas that I will never be able to totally get rid of. I’ve decided I need to build a sanding “tent” with homemade filtration system. I will always try do this outside as weather permits. Everyone needs know about the potential dust issue.

  • @markbarton4344
    @markbarton4344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job, looks like it went well.

  • @GarageNoise
    @GarageNoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Looks like the Eastwood gun sprayed really well. May have to test one out.

  • @nonamealx
    @nonamealx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looking how it sprays is like asmr for the eyes :)

  • @calimero1569
    @calimero1569 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you do body filler on bare metal, rust will creep under the paint then blow thru at weakest line. First seal up with epoxy then scuff n mud it the way you do. You are a real painter man greetings from overseas/ istanbul

  • @tykellerman6384
    @tykellerman6384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video thanks🤠👍

  • @chinnerz2
    @chinnerz2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you had 'crows feet' and cracked paint, but the factory primer layer seemed to be in tact still (i.e. you cannot see any visible rusting, just light grey primer where paint is chipping), would you still recommend sanding down to the metal? or would you stop once the paint/ primer seemed nicely bonded?
    My car has been sitting out in the sun for about 30 years and the paint is looking a bit sad.

  • @dull_boy_274
    @dull_boy_274 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, subscribed!

  • @apaches04soccer
    @apaches04soccer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you guys make it look so easy! great work! , how much does a job like this run up to be?

  • @mojunk19
    @mojunk19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The new paint strippers are junk. I’ve been using a strip disk. It’s like a scuff pad but very corse. Works great but man it gets dust everywhere. You’ve got some great content on your video. Thanks for sharing.

    • @patricksantana3337
      @patricksantana3337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They took out the Methylene Chloride which was the key ingredient in stripping paint. I haven't found anything that is as effective as the old paint strippers.

  • @Bigskyguy56
    @Bigskyguy56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At what pressure did you spray your epoxy?
    Thanks for sharing the tips & info.

  • @diyeric5072
    @diyeric5072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personlay git that dewalt sandwr and i can say it works really well it nocks down bondo rust deep scratches so fast and easy

  • @mitraramsaroop6275
    @mitraramsaroop6275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good work keep it up bro

  • @watchthisspacecarchannel6523
    @watchthisspacecarchannel6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once sanded to bare metal you can also use rust coverter/ metal prep , wipe on and wash it off immediately then you’re ready to the epoxy primer

  • @thelmaperez820
    @thelmaperez820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you tengo el mismo problema gracias por enseñar cómo repararlo.

  • @pvalle180
    @pvalle180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job, great channel 👍

  • @ZippyPenguinTribute
    @ZippyPenguinTribute 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid guys, question - what do you use to seal the epoxy primer? can you not just basecoat then clear after epoxy?

  • @markw.9245
    @markw.9245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I work on old cars, and that car didn't have any serious rust! One I'm doing now, actually had surface rust so bad, when I removed it (first shot) with a wire wheel, there were spots with holes all the way through.

    • @aprillovesgolf7042
      @aprillovesgolf7042 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where should I buy my respirator?? Can I sand it outdoors?? Budget, but need my lungs!

  • @boostgst
    @boostgst ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Video. I am buying the epoxy through your link but I have a question. I have an old Chevy on bare metal that I scuffed with 80 Grit. It still needs body work I just want to seal it. Do you still recommend I use reducer ? or straight epoxy with no reducer? Thanks for the awesome video, It is the best I have seen.

  • @joecaddy1567
    @joecaddy1567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @elian222
    @elian222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Eastwood epoxy is very good - but also expensive. I've recently tried and determined that speedokote t-rex epoxy is as good and in some ways actually better (doesn't take four days to set up for finish sanding or working it). Also it's almost half the cost when factoring in shipping.

  • @erichwise7734
    @erichwise7734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do wish you showed the process getting to that point on the roof. Which things are important to take off and what things you decided to keep and why. Otherwise however this whole series is excellent. I just came back looking for this video as Im literally going through this process, even down to the two tone.

  • @petergomez4765
    @petergomez4765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always amazing to watch! We haven’t seen you do a complete Big 4x4 truck would love to see how you would go about that. Specially a change of color of the car. Would you take the bed off?

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s always the best way. Remove as much as possible !

  • @duncandmcgrath6290
    @duncandmcgrath6290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of doing the Ford P/u warranty strip in the early 90’s

    • @timhill4451
      @timhill4451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, we did hundreds of them.

  • @lyonsmotorsports8440
    @lyonsmotorsports8440 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, been following your work for a while now. I do have a question, I have to do this to my suburban and as a DIYer, living in Florida, how do you suggest I do this, considering the humidity and flash rust as I will be doing this at home. Thank you again for the great content! All the best to you!

  • @raymondlanier1112
    @raymondlanier1112 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job i have a question i have this 69 cj jeep thats in need of a paint job aside from replacing some metal can i have it sand blasted and get good results on paint

  • @scott9478
    @scott9478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there an all in one epoxy and high build primer that I could use on bare metal then spray a single stage paint over top of it? I already have single stage paint BUT it need body work and taking down to metal as it is rusting just like this Tahoe you just did. Thanks!

  • @pedrokim7435
    @pedrokim7435 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelent video!
    Could you show us using the Ppg SX579 over a pitted fender process , thanks

  • @depp-innocent4711
    @depp-innocent4711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching for the high roof. looks like you could have stood on something a little higher. you did about 12 ich overlap as well, was that needed or just the way you do it?

  • @JonOffgrid
    @JonOffgrid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the most informative

  • @xtremeautosoundelectronics2067
    @xtremeautosoundelectronics2067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative 👍🏾 👍🏾

  • @Harlo86
    @Harlo86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The purple polycarbonate strip disc on an angle grinder work great.

  • @FilmFactry
    @FilmFactry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: is it okay to use Spray Max 2K High Gloss over Duplicolor paint? Also, can clear coat go on the next day? I have to paint outside and would only have the early morning before it gets hot. Thanks!

  • @GruesomesGarage
    @GruesomesGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, by the way what do you think of the surface contour sanders for this type of work ? I notice Eastwood carries them and they look impressive in their video.,

  • @5703bl
    @5703bl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome job.

  • @kenweinsteinhun
    @kenweinsteinhun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Eastwood Contour Sander? have you ever tied that? Thanks. I always learn so much from you.

  • @Steve-vz3ud
    @Steve-vz3ud 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice Job

  • @larrypugh9336
    @larrypugh9336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work

  • @ceesklumper
    @ceesklumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So funny, I am watching this video while I am waiting for that exact same epoxy (1:1) to flash on my '68 Triumph Spitfire ... one coat before I put on the ... Eastwood urethane primer (4:1:1) in my garage / DYI paintbooth

  • @daviddolezal1921
    @daviddolezal1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good informational video. Could you just have Dustless Blasted that roof of the vehicle or is that cost prohibitive?

  • @ejaokay
    @ejaokay ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend a rust converter as well after sanding, to chemically change any rust not visible to the eye? I feel this would best protect the metal going forward. Amy recommendations on paintable rust converters from your experience?

  • @michaelowens5529
    @michaelowens5529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @felipetalavera1846
    @felipetalavera1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand is the 6" hook and loop your using and where did you but it?

  • @marklee6538
    @marklee6538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video about how to deal with rust pited metal, like bb sized dimples? This is great stuff.

  • @GreenallFootball
    @GreenallFootball ปีที่แล้ว

    Could one use a pneumatic DA sander to do the sanding? What if you have a lot of rust to sand along with old paint? We are restoring an old truck that's going to need considerable rust repair done to the body panels and cab. The frame appears to just have surface rusting.

  • @blevinsg.4951
    @blevinsg.4951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool stuff

  • @nolanb70
    @nolanb70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I just had a 98 Yukon painted that looked similar. Hope I don't have to go back to this..... 😯🤯

    • @nolanb70
      @nolanb70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also what do you anticipate for the holes from roof rack? As will use then or cut and wield them close

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We will put the rack back on

  • @Funtimes670
    @Funtimes670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome episode, thank you! How risky is it to drive the vehicle like that before the base and clear are on and it gets rained on or sun exposure? Would you have to sand it all back off or scuff and shoot another coat of primer before base and clear?

    • @notbilly5962
      @notbilly5962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rain shouldn't be too much of an issue as epoxy primer isn't porous like a normal primer-surfacer, the main worry would be UV exposure as there isn't any clear It'll start to break down the primer and cause adhesion problems further down the road. If you have to drive it around try to keep it undercovers much as possible and have it painted within a few months. Although best best is ultimately just to do it all in the same day.

    • @micksroversmg558
      @micksroversmg558 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be alright in primer for a week or so don't worry about it!

  • @Danny_Wolfe
    @Danny_Wolfe ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the DeWalt tool a DUAL ACTION machine? Thanks!

  • @leemontoya8028
    @leemontoya8028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That would be a good outside job!

  • @jason-things_to_do
    @jason-things_to_do 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wire brushes on a variable speed angle grinder(Dewalt DWE43240INOX) on slow speed. Hit any deep pits with minor rust with acid based metal cleaner. Never had issues. Wire brushes gets at most contours, that disks can't always get at, especially bad pits. Just finished major rust repairs on the inside wheel wells using wire brushes. I have a vacuum sand blaster and find the slow speed wire brush is cleaner, and faster. I have an Eastwood Contour tool I waiting to use once it shows up.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the contour but it takes a bit too long but leaves the metal nice

    • @Nighthawk745
      @Nighthawk745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great tip! Thank you, what wire brushes do you use?

  • @marksmith6091
    @marksmith6091 ปีที่แล้ว

    So do you have to replace the paper on the discs before it is stripped completely?

  • @medievilassassin
    @medievilassassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video , how long do you wait before base coat?
    Do you just scuff it and then add wet on wet primer then base coat

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give it a week. Scuff with 320. Seal it and paint it.

  • @reyjr3608
    @reyjr3608 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May i ask,,can i just prep and paint over it,after the epoxy dried, without putting 2k primer?..

  • @jasonhumble2736
    @jasonhumble2736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can we get Eastwood products in Australia Western Australia by any chance?

  • @saulca1
    @saulca1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m doing restoration on my truck…. Is that ok if I use DTM 2k urethane primer over bare metal instead Epoxi primer??

  • @alanc.142
    @alanc.142 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you put high build primer over epoxy on the same day ?

  • @tnasituning8173
    @tnasituning8173 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like using a paint stripper wheel or an 80 grit flap Disc too besides a wire wheel... They will cut down even faster, then finish off with the 80 grit and 100 grit flat sander for a Final pass

  • @btbd2785
    @btbd2785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    in regards to a 3" and also 6" Pneumatic DA Sanders Can you recommend a few affordable yet decent ones in those sizes please?

  • @oshaymcdonald8792
    @oshaymcdonald8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you use epoxy over self etching

  • @FiveDollaHollaMyAss
    @FiveDollaHollaMyAss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you clear coat over a stain sealer on metal?

  • @libin761
    @libin761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great bro

  • @oshaymcdonald8792
    @oshaymcdonald8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the interface back control the heat

  • @davidhovis2299
    @davidhovis2299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you cover how you're filling that antenna hole. Got a bronco that was an old forest division truck that has two I'm going to need to fill.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are just going to put a cap in it with silicone

  • @andyfarrior4146
    @andyfarrior4146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any updates on the Yukon project? Because of the size, curious if you paint it in sections or all at once.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Working on it right now! Prepping in sections. Paint at once

  • @lordandpomeroy
    @lordandpomeroy ปีที่แล้ว

    I have really thick heavy rusting, should I go more rough than 80?