Which One is Better? A Wire Wheel Or A Rust Stripper Disk?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2022
- Well... I have been taking far too long to remove the paint from my case 646 tractor and I happed upon a video from 'Just a Few Acres Farm' saying how he removed the paint from his Farmall hood with a stripper disk on the drill. So I thought I would give it a try. While I was at it, I figured that I may as well record the testing to share with all of you so that you might benefit from it as well. I had been using a combination of a scraper, various wire wheels, as well as paint stripper but with so many parts to get through, I was not happy with my progress.
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The disk doesn't look like it would perform any better, it is light, and is full of holes, so you don't seem to get a lot for the money. They are available in different levels of aggressiveness, which seems to be based on the colour. They remind me a lot of a heavy duty version of a Scotchbright pad.
The results of the testing were a game changer for me, I doubt I'll be going back and it has given me some ideas about other ways to remove paint for tight spaces as well.
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Those paint stripper discs that fit in an angled grinder work great as long as you're careful not to snag it on a sharp edge. A sharp edge can rip the wheel to shreds in a few seconds if you're not careful. I think the secret to them working so well is the open structure that allows lots of air in there to keep the surface cool while grinding so the paint flies off as a cool powder, rather than just melting the paint and smearing it around.
The drill version is meant to be run on the side of the disc, so you hold the dril "sideways" next to your work piece. Mostly meant for small pieces and tight corners.
I can't believe he didnt know the obvious .....sad.
This may be true but I've used these discs to for both grinder and drill and can tell you from experience it works better and faster if used like a flap disk so not held sideways Soo if it's efficient being used in that manner then ya should probably use it in that manner
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cmon, you need to hold wire wheel sideways for removing paint :D He dont have a clue wtf he is doing :D
@@trailman20 no you shouldnt. If you use them on the face you put forces on it in the wrong way wich can result in the center just ripping out. Just like using a cutoff wheel on a grinder for grinding, if you use those like a flap disk they wil do that pretty wel, until you grenade the disc and shoot pieces of it in to your own body... So just use them how they are intended.
And dont be a murican and demand that they force you to only use it like that or that they need to include a 300 page manual to tell you exactly how to do it. Just use common sense, and you should be fine with just the print that is mostly on the small cartboard piece attached around the shaft when new.
@@gabbermaikel well ass you say ..use common sense so don't use force wile using at the same angle you would a flap disc just lightly press if any pressure at all is used ..you always let the tool do the work for you ..I don't personally care what the manual says as it's only there to not be sued by some crazy American I use things the way they work best and take all necessary precautions as any one should
After watching about 10 different videos, this one nailed it.
Awesome, thanks for taking the time!
I was blown away at how well those work. Been using grinders for 20 years & just found out about them recently.
Had to strip a handrailing to prep for powder coat so I literally just went through the decision wire wheels or stripping disks, chose stripping disks. Excellent decision as these worked like a champ, stripped any paint quicky, most of surface rust and left excellent surface ready to send off for coating. I have never really had a lot of success with wire wheels and plan to use these moving forward for any similar task, they do wear quickly so plan on having several on hand but worth their weight in gold.
Excellent video! Straight and to the point. I appreciate you posting this!!
Thank you for the vid, I’m taking some rust off on a frame and this gives me confidence I can do it. Thank you.
Just found your channel. I enjoyed the video. I'll be watching some more of them soon. Thanks for the upload.
Those grinder paint removal pads also work great for mill scale removal when welding.
Good work. In my experience straight wire wheels are best when removing rust and paint on ridged surfaces, such as threads. Otherwise I use the disks for a grinder. The best ones have silicon carbide abrasive. When removing paint it's important to move around a lot to keep the coating cool. If you allow too much heat the paint melts and gums up the disk, and just moves around the part. I use the disk to remove light mill scale. Heavy mill scale is a whole other challenge.
It amazes me how many people use angle grinders without guards after all the countless number of accident horror stories all over the internet. I barely nicked myself with one of those twisted wire brushes for cleaning up welds and it removed everything down to the bone. Two years later and it's still not fully healed.
What are your thoughts on wearing gloves with a grinder? Is there a glove that works best to protect and still have good grip?
@@NeedItMakeIt like every safety guard, they can limit too much of the blade.
Great video. Just useful information in a relatable fashion, no BS, no commercials. Earned you a sub. I'm going to try one of these grinder discs for me.
Thank you! I'm moving away from any type of adds and into serving the public in the best way I can. I think we need more honest reviews. I am so sick of buying things that do not last, or work like they are supposed to, I'm sure other people feel the same.
I learnt something new from your video that will save me a tonne of time. Thanks. a million!
A huge factor that wasn’t covered in this video is safety. The plastic “Rust and Paint Stripper” disc vs. Crimped/knotted wire disc. While still used on power tools and require PPE, they don’t have metal wire flinging off like the latter. Also, they do a much better jon in this case! Less worry about metal debris in your eyes and clothes
I got stung on the tip of the dick by a flung wire once lol
The knotted wire wheels and brushes don't, in my experience, fling off the wire bristles as much as their straight wire brothers, but I agree that proper ppe is a must, especially with anger grinders
@@flack3 ooof
@@fredchevalier2333 when the new fling off, you’ll feel it in your dick like MisterX
Just leave the guard on and dont get injured or take the risk like this guy!
The 1st thing I thought of, when I saw you using a drill, which I have done. Was "He should use an angle drill!" I ran into the same thing when I used the wire wheel too. I will be looking for the abrasive wheels that fit an angle grinder too.
Thanks for sharing! Very helpful!
Never used it but this is the next thing on my list. Thank you.
What a great and informative video. I have been suffering for years with wire and I am gonna gives these a shot.
They saved me a TON of time, pretty messy though.
Canada in the house showin' how it's done! Keep up the good work. Great vid!
Love this a lot, thanks for the shout out. Go Canada!
Testing the paint removing wheel on the grinder vs a flap disc would be a decent little comparison I think.
My experience is that they are designed for different functions. The paint stripper removes the paint, but only lightly scuffs the metal (you get a few sparks). The flap wheel is more aggressive, and removes metal as well as paint. Works great for flattening welds for example.
Thank you very much. Looks like the disc can be used forward because it is indented in the front.
I love using the paint strip discs for weld prep. So much better than loading up grinding discs .
Any particular brand you use? I've found these cheapies on amazon to work really well, there are different grits, but they're not clearly identified.
so nice to c that paint coming off...tks
I recently tried removing paint & rust with wire Brush cups & wire wheels, with my drill. I know what you mean about discomfort! With the drill spinning it kept running off the surface of the rungs. I recently bought an angle grinder for a tougher job, both plant stands but next one is twice as big and thick. Unlike your fabulous job after mere minutes, it took me two weekends, wire brushes, wheels & cups just to get to the point of it'll last a few years before I need to redo it. I used rust proof paint, next one will be better. I love tools & learning how to use them for different DIY jobs. Looking forward to more videos from you.
Thanks for the video. I just bought the same 4 1/2 angle grinder with the handle grip and a abrasive pad for removing rust off autobody panels. I'm confident now it will work well
I'm glad it helped!
Those are what we use in the body shop for removing paint and e-coat from panels when you need to weld on them.
Poly paint strip wheel impressed me i stripped a tail gate in no time FYI..
I use it to make cast iron cook wear new again !!👍
Nice video. To the point and educational. Kudos
Love the pint stripping wheels but if there are any sharp edges they get smoked. Usually use them for large flat or small rounded edges. When it comes to a lip or sharp edge i swap to flap disks or the wire wheels
Nice!!! I’m going to the hardware store asap for some of those grinder pads.
Absolutely helpful! I started stripping the coating on my bus roof with the wire brush on the angle grinder...meh...
Saw your video...off I go to the hardware store!
It's going to cost me a fortune in disks...but save me A TON of time! CHEERS!😂
I think all the holes are there in the pad to make it soft and compliant, so it squishes to match the shape of the surface and doesnt just skip around like a hard disc would.
That's a good point, not as stiff and will not dig in like a sanding disk, thanks for your thoughts on this.
Thank you for sharing, I like your style short and to the point, I just subscribed.
Awesome thanks for that, I try to keep the videos short, attempting not to waste everyone's time.
Best result you will have by using a grinder with a fiberdisk. No problems with dusk. Simply try. I had to remove old paint and rust on a 50 squaremeters boatdeck of a stealboat. The result was perfekt.
Stripped my entire car to bare metal with strip disks in a 4.5 angle grinder- they are a must have tool !
Thanks for sharing this, I have been using wire brush on grinder. Gotta switch.
Tell me about it, I had been struggling for too long. I think I was watching a show called 'Just a few acres farm' and he was using the drill version of this disk. I thought there must be a better version, and of course there was. Funny how many times you think of something, and it already exists.
Perfect video! Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you
Awesome!
Thanks. I've been fighting with a wire brush. You convinced me instantly
I love the paint pads. I use wire the wire wheel when I have pit rust I need to remove before adding a phosphate pre prime.
Answered a lot of my questions in one video
Glad I could help thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
I use a pre grinder using 16 grit, 24 grit, 36 grit whatever is needed to strip the heavy coats of paint.
I used a 16 grit on my garage of 80 yrs worth of paint and no sweat. The area was nicely prepped and I used 4 coats of paint w/primer to re establish the protective coating. All this was necessary because 80 percent of the paint was peeling off, it was done. Now the new paint has over a year on it through the harsh weather in north Ohio and looks fresh.
I have a garage floor with the same issues, thanks for the tips, very useful into!
Very satisfying to watch.
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Great Video i liked it. Ill be buying those wheels for my grinder.
Exactly what I was looking for thanks fam
Nice, glad it helped!
Great! I will use this method!!
Thank you. I have a old tractor implement that I need to clean up
Great video!
Used one at the weekend was amazing.
Awesome! Wire wheels are great for rust, and some hard paints, but some paints are rubbery and this disc does so much better.
There are two inch pads for die grinders for removing paint that would be very suitable for inside surfaces
Nice work. Merry Christmas
Thanks and to you as well! Hopefully Santa was good to you this year and brought you lots of tools.
Thank you for the video. It shows detailed comparson between wire wheel and stripper disk.
I would like to know if you can film and test my company's stripper disk compare with other stripper disk manufacturer. At how much?
enjoyed it and informative
Thank you, I'm glad you thought so!
complimenti! Grazie! per il video di valutazione di scelta
è stato un piacere!
Great video and great composition…
Thanks, I'm hoping to do more of these kinds of videos as well, real reviews with testing to see who comes out on top.
The Poly strip disc does the work a lot better ! 👍🏻
Certainly my go-to when removing paint, I can't see myself going back either!
Great Review and thanks for posting !!
Though those pads leave a polished surface hence the paint has less to adhere to as opposed to shot blasting
Hit it after with some 24#.
They have a light abrasive, it does give a light etch. The pads are also color coded for different grits. But which grit is which, I do not know.
I'm about to do my roof (steel) and I was weighing what to use on it to remove rust. You answered my question within 2 minutes. Thanks and regards from Central Florida.
this really works well love it going to get Too of this
Yes!! This is exactly the solution I need!
hi parkerazz have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
Thanks for the vid - could you included a link of the product you’re using? I have a big job I need this for and will buy or rent an angle-grinder…
I think I have some links in the description, let me check again. Okay, here is the Amazon USA link, they're in the description, but maybe they don't show for you. amzn.to/3J86ysH This one is Amazon CAN amzn.to/3XUz9X7. I hope that helps and happy grinding!
Very helpful, thank you!
My pleasure!
Great ideas 😀
It's 2 years later and I'm still using them. I am restoring an old lathe and except for some tight inside corners, they're still working great, I've uses a wire wheel here and there as well in areas that the paint was chipping off, but these worked so well for those stuck on areas of paint. I'd like to try those abrasive "Fingers" have you seen these?
Learned something, thanks!
Perfect, I'm glad it could help someone out!
I'm going to get some of those disks to clean up my Bridgeport!
I have a few flash-rusted tools, I had been sanding by hand, I'll give these a go on there as well; great idea, thanks! It would be so nice to have a Bridgeport mill.
Awesome stuff mate, brilliant video and info
Those discs perform quite well, I’ll be buying some for the shed now
The new go-to for me, the are about the same price as a good wire wheel, and they do seem to last.
@@NeedItMakeIt say goodbye to getting smacked in the face with hypersonic bits of wire
@@rooey4193 You still get smacked with hypersonic bits, they're just less sharp and lethal.
I have the handle attachment for two of my drills, sure you can buy an add-on one if you do not have an angle grinder.
For a small project, the drill works well, I like that they're smaller for those tighter spaces and it's a bit safer really.
Thank you the clip is very useful
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Great job
Thanks a lot, I appreciate you taking the time to write a comment!
I just got the angle grinder paint stripping disc. It turns it into a suction cup. It pulls the grinder against the material and is a bit scary to use, not least because I had to remove the guard as it was rubbing against it. I found it wasn't that great until I turned it at an angle and swiped at the material. It made my hand very sore from holding it because I think it's unbalanced and vibrations were bad.
I suppose it is meant to use at an angle, that was my first though, having it flat would cause you to have to fight it to stay exactly where you want it. I noticed that mine had a bore which didn't exactly match the shaft size, not sure if it was intentional or not, but the vibrations seemed minimal none the less. Which brand did you end up going with?
@@NeedItMakeIt Pretty sure after reading the reviews I wasn't the only one. The hole was offset ever so slightly. Can't remember brand, but it was the cheapest one they had.
For the particular job you are doing - removing heavy paint from a large object (bucket) a sandblaster would be much faster and better and easier.
The sand can be "recycled" into the local area (as it is off of a dozer) and a cabinet is not needed.
The Stripper Disc can be used flat or on its side - just depends on what you need to do.
I also realize that this vid is to show the difference between the two and not the job, but if for real (doing the whole bucket) a blaster is better.
Oh I wish I had a sand blaster, that would make restorations so much easier, all of those little nooks and crannies. On the list for a future purchase for sure! Thanks for the tips my man!
@@NeedItMakeIt
Harbor Freight!
$30 to $90 + sand - Hand Held Blasters, not cabinet style.
Not that expensive for what you are doing.
@@dc85337 Any chance they work with an abrasive that is safer around the home? I'm a little rusty on the tech, maybe they're using different materials these days.
@@NeedItMakeIt
Sand is "usually" a non-issue as it blends/dissipates into the background, however there are other media type blasters that are more expensive but leave no real residue.
Walnut shells work well, but don't blend into the ground as well as sand does. Sand can be brushed up, vacuumed up, or hosed off and be a non-issue.
Picked up abrasive also picks up the paint residue, so.............depends on where you blast and what's around you.
Paint on metal is a real pain I agree. For multilayered paint, I think there is no avoiding 2-passes. Those stripper discs are really expensive, so I do pass1 with a flap disk 80grit to expose the metal, then pass2 with the stripper disc for clean job.
I just tested some water based paint stripper and I was quite impressed, not stinky, just use plastic wrap to keep it from drying out, the paint slides off so easy
Terrific video
Thank you so much!
You can get those paint remover pads in roloc 3m scotch bright 2" disks for a right angle die grinder. That will help you get the smaller inside areas.
That's perfect, I was using a small chisel for any small corners and that worked alright, but better to add some RPM to it!
Stripping discs are my go to for paint a surface rust removal. These don't remove the metal like a low grit sanding disc but leave a nice profiled surface. I can buzz with 80 grit on a da and right to epoxy primer.
They definitely remove metal
I used a 40 grit sanding wheel today I was thinking is there a better way? I'll give this a chance.
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
Thank you so much!
Side grinder for both. For rust I like a coarse wire cup. Paint, definitely the stripper wheel
Good to know, thanks!
I use both , the wire brush is better at irregularities , like rivets and protuding bolts etc , especially if you use it with the handle that fits around the front bearing , and gives you far more efficient use of the machine with both your hands . The disc grinder is better on flat surfaces , but an expensive way to go .
Thank you
They're the way to go. For big jobs, get an Eastwood or Bauer contour stripper - same thing but uses a drum instead of a wheel. Various types of drums are available. Its like using a huge eraser.
Very helpful!!
I'm happy it helped. I'm just about to get them back out for an old and very large vise restoration. Athol #95 it also needs some nickel 55 welding on it because of a hairline fracture, should be a fun project. What projects are you planning?
@@NeedItMakeIt I just bought a couple of barn find tractors that I’d like to paint and restore. It should be interesting!!
I use the 3M disk in car bodywork. We call it clear strip and it's designer to remove the paint without any damage on the steel. It takes longer to remove the paint but you keep the steel as original as you can.
would it be safe to use his paint stripping wheel on motorcycle alluminum cylinder fins , removing the powder coating
@@lawrencedavidson296Yes, but I'd use the black ones, they're softer than the purple discs.
it helps if you blow out the disc after use with compressed air, it will clean and improve the life of the disc
Yeah, I think you can get such a wheel for a small rotary tool, for those hard to reach areas. Or you can use a square ended deburring bit for a die grinder.
I used an old chisel for the corners, it didn't give a perfect result, but not bad. Those corners are a PAIN!
I do this for a living & stripping paint bores me as much as it bores everyone. Where you can, grab your Map gas torch & toast the paint/filler first. Do that in a well ventilated space, blah blah, not near flammable bits (ish). It will then come off using your kids Barbie-dolls head hair, let alone a wire wheel/stripper disc. Speeds up the process 10X.
Best paint stripping tool? A Map Gas Torch. Followed by whatever abrasive thingy you have chucked about. Any old crap will do after the heaty-heaty. Try it, thank me later. Or not - either is good. I generally do it in badly-ventilated spaces right hard up beside hugely flammable stuff, but hey, nobody's perfect. Upside, saves hours of hufffing down paint-dust & wearing out abrasives.
Chances are you're cleaning off the paint so you can weld anyway - in which case the welder will set it on fire - so you might as well just skip ahead & set it on fire deliberately using a controlled burn. That's the "Science" bit btw. It's gonna burn, so burn it first on purpose.
You can strip an entire big panel of every trace of paint in no time at all with zero fancy gear - just toast it all gently first. Off it pops, nice & easy. Map gas torches are also famously vibration free - which makes them much "Safer" as hand arm vibration injury is a big "Thing". After a few weeks of using this technique, you become bláse about small bodywork fires. You don't need to worry about a little fire... If more people copped on to this, sandblasters would all go bust... Which would you prefer? 30K of sandblasting gear or a 20 quid Map-Gas torch?
I don't have a torch, but in a future shop, that will be a great tool around the shop. I've used a gas pressure washer on some very old paint, and it did a great job, though it blasted the paint down the street as well and all over the entire yard. The parts were clean at least...
I wonder if there is something I can use in my shop, a heat gun? to try this out. It's probably not nearly hot enough.
Use the poly stripping wheels made for grinders that contain silicon carbide grit material embedded in the poly material. I have found them to outperform any other method.
If you are cleaning rust off pitted steel, and the item is not too large, soak in hydrochloric acid (10% works fine), rinse thoroughly, then coat with phosphoric acid to create an iron phosphate rust barrier, and good paint adhesion. Take safety precautions with this method. This is my preferred method because no grinding is required and I can weld the parts before painting.
There is paint remover... Just cover your paint with it and you can almost blow it away with a compressor. Good for corners or other places hard to access with a grinder
..just to comment... great clip/demonstration thanks... liquid paintstripper.... caustic soda bath... blowtorch..... baking soda..... alcohol, no go! - then this video. I went out got a black disc and voila stripping stainless steel surface in a jiffy, tricky in tight corners will use liquid paint stripper on those spots... blue discs slightly harder and purples being the hardest - so i believe from googling
Thanks for the extra info. It wasn't very clear from Amazon how the color related to the abrasive.
How did you do the inside corners?
I used an old woodworking chisel and that seemed to do the trick, some other people said to use paint stripper, and I have used some which is water based that worked well. I really do not like that old stripper, it burns your skin if you get any on you and it also burns your eyes from the vapors, probably pretty deadly if it does that on the outside. Definitely an outdoor job.
What about on a metal post, the paint is coming off and I need to repaint them! They’re post on a carport! Do you recommend tia also?
anyone know the best way to get in small corners? such as metal windows?
I am going to get some, to try on peeling chrome and rust, on a set of steel wheels for an "antique" car. Originally they were painted, so in "restoring" them they need to go to clean bare metal. Not going to be re-chromed. BTW I have spent some time using wire wheels on a drill, and some areas cleaned up OK, but the pitted chrome areas with significant rust the wire wheels are not doing good at all.
3M makes those disks for angle grinders, too. They work very well. And always wear a face shield and proper gloves when working with an angle grinder.
I stay away from gloves with power tools, too many times someone had their hands pulled into a machine with gloves on. But that's mostly Woodworking, for griding, maybe a nice tight fitting glove with some grip on it would be good?
4:46 will it remove rust from a steel flat top griddle surface? is the finish really smooth?
I use the poly wheel for the grinder. They work much much better.
Do you have any particular brand you prefer?
Do you have the part number for those pads I definitely need something like that to tackle this engine bay job lmk thanks great video
I had a look at the link I used on Amazon and I don't see a part #. I've added the links in the description for the 5" and 4" version if that helps. It seems that the color determines the agressiveness.
AWESOME
the Rust Stripper Disk is so addicting to use
Those paint stripper wheels work great. But like everything else, there is one drawback. They wear out fairly fast. So when you buy them, buy them in lots of ten or more. I buy them and wire wheels and flapper discs in lots of ten for that reason. They each have their place...
I’m repainting a trailer but it’s pretty rusted up and painted under which would you recommend??
Where did you get the purple disc? What brand is it?