High Velocity 22LR Ammo Comparison and Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Join me at the range as we shoot and compare different brands and weights of high velocity 22 long rifle ammunition. Using a Ruger 10/22 LVT and a Ruger American Bolt-action rifle, we shoot Blazer 40 grain, CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain copper plated round nose, American Eagle 40 grain solid, CCI Mini Mag 38 grain copper plated hollow point, American Eagle 38 grain Copper plated HP, and Winchester Super X 40 grain Hyper Velocity Hollow Point Copper Plated. Speeds range between (1235 fps - 1260 fps) with the one exception, Winchester "hyper velocity" at 1435 feet per second.
I was in a army navy store in July 2020 and found American eagle 38 and 40 grain 22s for 20 bucks a brick.I cleaned them out of 11,000 rounds.Been using them since the 70s and they perform flawlessly out of my 1022 and 9422.Thank you for great video sir.
Thanks for watching SR-556! American eagle 38 and 40 grains do seem to shoot well out of many different 22's. I also love the look of the 9422. Those old Winchesters really were the best 22 lever on the market. Wish they still made them.
@@texmexshoots I totally agree sir.My 9422 was made in 1973 second year of production its pretty much a safe queen as it is as new.
CCI is a quality ammo. Sometimes the priming compound does not make it all the way around the rim. You could retry the round by loading the round to be struck in a different location. I have done this many times to get a stubborn round to fire. Don't give up after only one strike. Good Luck
Thank for watching Jim! I had never thought about doing that. I'll give it a try next time.
I was really surprised to see the CCI failure to fire. 2 out of 10 isn’t good. 80% fire rate is unacceptable. They sure looked like they had a hard enough strike too. Good video sir. I love the 22lr. They are a much different animal that any other round that I can think of. Most are very particular about what you feed them and results can be extremely obvious. 👍
Thanks for commenting Mr. Anderson! I agree that the failure rate has been someone’s high on CCI’s recently. I expect it may have been the rush in production during the last few years when 22s were hard to find.
Thanks again for the comparison video. Good stuff.
I appreciate that Cervus!
That was very helpful. I have to watch for the Blazer .22LR. That shot very well. Shocked about the FTF of the CCI Varmint loading. Maybe just one bad lot, but usually you look at CCI as being "the control group" in .22 ammunition. It's the standard the others are judged by. Good shooting!
I agree about the CCI. Usually they are my standard. But this batch seemed to have a few duds.
Enjoyed your video, thanks. I use a Maglula loader with my 10/22. Now my fingers aren't bleeding.
Thanks for watching datapro007! Thanks for the info. I didn't know they made a Maglula for the 10/22. I need to check them out.
Anything faster than about 1300fps should have a faster twist rate in order to stabilize the bullet. With the new super-fast Hyper ammo, 1600 - 1700 fps, should probably have a 1;14 - 1;10 rate.
Thanks for the info! Hadn't thought about the twist rate. Usually barrel rifling is correlated with bullet wight. But I suppose with 22lr, speed would make a big difference. So you need to spin the faster bullet more to try and stabilize it?
@@texmexshoots Few have much luck getting tight groups with Hyper Velocity due to the 1;16 twist rate dating back to the days of almost all ammo being standard velocity.
I recently read that someone has been experimenting with some faster twist rate barrels and having good luck.
I expect Ruger, Savage, CZ, etc. will probably offer various twist rates in the future.
For a moment I will was thinking super velocity like Stingers and velociters and interceptors but it’s your test so I will finish watching and comment again thanks buddy
Not quite. That's a great idea though! If I can get my hands on some of those I will do another comparison. I was trying to differentiate it from my last video where I was shooting more standard velocities 22lr (1070fps - 1130fps) as compared to these High Velocity 22lr offerings (1235fps-1260fps) with the one exception of the Winchester "hyper velocity" at 1435fps.
I updated the title thumbnail to High Velocity.
Looks like boxed Blazer are better than the ones in a carton. Them Mini Mags, were they hollow & round nose ones. Man them Winchester are spinning far. One Winchesters I'd like to try are the Silver Tip but all of last year didn't see any. Only ones I see are the 333pk. Also should try the Copper 22 by CCI. They are hyper going at 1800+ 😳. Should build a frame to hold both of those large targets so they won't sway in the wind. I use the 2" Shoot n C stickers. Place a few on a cardboard box like you.
Thanks Lawrence! Yeah, it didn't feel like a windy day but the targets were swaying back and fourth on the video. I just need to staple them a little lower on the cardboard to keep them from moving so much.
The CCI 40gr were round nose but the 36 grain were hollow points. They were the only ones I could get a hold of. Hopefully as ammo starts filling the shelves again, I can try some other brands as well!
Had to watch on the Mini Mags, not many recent ones for that ammo. Not even the 300pk Meateater Mini Mags. Hears hoping I'll or we'll run into a few 300 pks for our LVTs for this spring/summer. + you the only fella firing out of an LVT.
I was actually able to get some Mini-Mags directly from CCI's website. They aren't always in stock, but if you keep looking you will catch them in. Of course you have to pay for shipping but all in all the price directly from them was not bad.
@@texmexshoots two months ago found some bulk made by Browning. A 400 pk, the HP ones. Should try mag load then hand load with your bolt on them MM @50yds. See if there's a difference. Able to get few pks of them (MM) or buying online have no limits from CCI?
@@lawrencehawk5179 There are some limits when ordering online. But I think the limit is 10 boxes per type of ammo. I think they have both the 38g (36gr?) and 40g Mini Mags. Need to try and get my hands on the Browning ammo and test it as well!
@@texmexshoots also like to find them CCI Clean ammo, see what a coated 22 can do. Them Tac 22 are oil coated instead of bees wax, maybe that's why they did well in a 20".
hey fam don't blame your lack of cleaning on CCI!
It's better than blaming myself 😁
Hey Tex Mex, I'm on Rimfire Central & reading/research (& having ☕)about LVT 10/22 or barrels for that matter. One fella said he brought his Ruger to a Gunsmith for work, then told him the LVT Ruger barrel IS made by Green Mountain. They say its bentz chamber, (GM) I looked down my barrel but don't know what "bentz" really looks like. Do you know what to look for in a chamber like Green Mountain?
Unfortunately not. All I know about Green Mountain is that they make quality aftermarket barrels for 10/22's. I'd have to do some research to figure that one out. Also, I went out to the property I shoot at this weekend but wasn't able to squeeze in the Blaser (Box vs Bulk) video. Hopefully next time!
@@texmexshoots gonna be something to see if they match or not. I looked at my barrel to see any marking besides Ruger in it. If they ARE "GM" that be a + + + to already a amazing barrel we have.
Considering the wind effects, I am surprised you were able to manage reasonable groups. I think some of your horizontal fliers may have been wind drift. Thank you for sharing this video.
Thanks for watching Tony! I plan on doing some more 22 comparisons soon.
Just a thought... fps vs barrel length. Id like to see ammo thru same rifles w/ different length barrels. And are you sure you measure target distances right? Those groups look like 100yd groups not 50yds
Thanks for watching Jorge! It was at 50 yards. You can blame the size of the groups on the shooter. 😅
Uggggg, sorry brother, but those are not good groups at all. You wouldn`t want to see the targets from my Ruger 1022 (pencil barrel) targets, nore my wife`s Ruger American 22rimfire targets. Both shoot easy dime size groups @ 50yds. My 1022 LOVES the Aguila Super Extra 40gr solid the best, and runs flawless with no hiccups. My 1022 also LOVES the CCI "Standard" 1070fps ammo. My wifes Ruger American 22 rimfire shoots just about anything she puts in it, averages under dime size groups consistently. We don`t shoot CCI Stingers though, in any of our 22 rimfire guns. I never liked the Stingers anyway. The only 22 rimfire i have that will consistently shoot just under .200 all day, is my CZ457 22 rimfire. I usually shoot SK Match, Eley Match, Wolf Match mainly, but it does real well with the CCI Standard 1070fps ammo too. All of our 22`s are untouched factory stock. Anyway, good shootin there bro! Keep puttin them videos out. Wife an i enjoy watching them! Just a subtle hint.... run 10 rounds thru your cold 22`s first to heat up the barrel a little bit, then move to your target shots.
I agree the groups weren't great. I got much better results in my standard velocity ammo comparison video. I myself have a CZ452 trainer, but haven't scoped it. However I did add a peep site to extend the sight radius. I plan on doing an open sights video with it soon.
I've heard great things from SK, Eley and Wolf Match. However the only real target ammo I have used is the Eley Target and Federal Gold. The Eley outshines the Federal.
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the advice and support!
Also, very interesting.
Thanks Lane!
Thought I comment on a separate one. 🤣 When you clean your LVT do you keep it on the reciever? Cause I completely break down mine except the trigger box thingy. So I'll be able to clean the chamber, + that little gap on the barrel. If that's not cleared can cause a build up of powder. And maybe (couldn't really see) but looks like the rifle is really in your bag. Causing the cartridge to maybe bounce back in or not fly out of the receiver. Least your able to get Mini Mags, haven't seen any in a long time.
I actually bought the mini-mags and blazer ammo directly from the CCI website. If you keep an eye on it, they occasionally appear in stock.
As for cleaning the LVT, I only break it down every now and then to give it a deep cleaning. Usually I will do a quick cleaning by using some sort of gun scrubber/de-greaser spray to get a lot of the powder and residue out of the receiver and chamber. After I'll run a bore-snake soaked in solvent through the barrel. Once the solvent dries, I will oil up the bolt and rail.
@@texmexshoots Your American, is the barrel long as your LVT, 20" ? Should try the Crack Shot on them coins again. If you still have the ones you did before.
Lawrence, the American is 18''. You can tell from the last couple of ammo comparison's that once I sync up the two videos (as best as I can), the bullets always take just a little bit longer to hit the target out of the american.
I do plan a some more trick shots soon! I seemed to be upsetting some folks when I was shooting currency, but luckily I found a bunch of game tokens from my girl's younger days. I'll also try some other small targets.
@@texmexshoots looks like the American got 1st on this video. Should compare Blazers in a box & Blazers in a carton. See if they match or not. Also clean that hook on the bolt. They make stainless & titanium (I think) for both. Supposed to be a little sharper so they can take the cartridge out not matter how many rds you shot. Been meaning to get one for mine. Should also try 22 Shorts, just have to hand load them. That be neat to see how they do at 50yds.
@@texmexshoots oh, this time you almost dropped your gun instead of your camera. 🤣 🎥 😳 So you place a rock or something so it won't slide off again?
CCI is really cranking out some garbage the last few months. Used CCI standard for a long while and was always great, last few batches were covered in wax or glue (big chunks of it), dents in the brass, CCI logo punched shallow and crooked on the bottom. Some rounds were so covered in gunk I couldn't get them out of the black plastic packaging without damaging the round. Now weird enough, the newest batch I have is up to par. Shiny brass, no wax/glue etc. Don't know what's happening over there. Switched to SK Plus, more expensive but flawless stuff.
SK Plus is great ammo. I agree on the CCI issue. Not sure if they were rushing production for a while trying to catch up with demand and let QC drop. Hopefully the new stuff will stay up to par.
109 yard testing please! :)
109 yards? That's very specific 😁 I'll try to do some longer distances next time.
Oops. Meant 100... lol
I just bought a thousand rounds of CCI MEAT EATER. 22 AMMO is there Any issues with this ammo?
Not at all! It is the same as the 36 grain "varmint" rounds I shot it the video. They should work well for you.
@@texmexshoots YES SIR I BOUGHT 3 BOXES 36 GRAIN FOR 34 .95 PER BOX OF 300 . THEY SHOT GREAT GROUPS OUT OF MY 10-22 ONLY THING I DO IS SQUIRREL HUNT. I HAVE SEVERAL BOXES OF THE WINCHESTER SUPER X 4O GRAIN THAT SHOOTS ALMOST AS GOOD AS THE MEAT EATER CCI.
@@jeffmontgomery1905 Sounds like you are set up for some fun hunting Jeff! Good luck and stay safe out there.
It’s good ammo.
What scope is on your LVT? Thanks.
The scope is a Vortex Diamondback 4-12 X 40 with the adjustable objective that I bought used a couple of years ago. The mount is a one piece DNZ Game Reaper. I think it is the medium height.
@@texmexshoots thanks! Those front objective ao scopes are pretty sleek. Looks like vortex isn’t currently making that model any more.
@@andreball9644 Unfortunately you are correct. Most of the Vortex AO now use a knob on the side. I like the old fashion front AO look.
Failure to eject is unacceptable 😠
I’m with you on that Ranger1!
Dirty rifle...?
It's possible. I am starting to take more cleaning materials out with me for these shoots. Patches to push through the chamber and a tooth brush with different solvents to clean out the bolt and extractor when it starts getting gummed up.