I'm sure you are aware but, I noticed that the blazer ammo, the bulk pack was 38 grain, the standard pack was 40 grain. That could be a factor in the difference in group size.
Thanks, that was very helpful. I watch a local chain store's ad for their loss-leader sales and go after the .22LR ammo when the price is right (or at least 'improved' over the normal pricing.) I'll watch for the Blazer 50-round boxes to go on sale. I'm already staked out on the Aguila.
Thanks for Watching Frank.! That Blazer shoots well out of a few of my rifles. Just got back from visiting Colorado for a few days. Was nice to see the snow.
I've been shooting it for a couple years now and it works out of several .22 semi-auto pistols without any issues. I think you will be happy with it. Maybe over two or three bulk packs I had one round that didn't' want to go off.
Today first time out to the range finally warmer temps here in Mid Michigan. Took my 581s out compared CCI 40 gn RN and Aguilar 40gn RN. 45 rounds fired. The AG grouped the best.
Thanks for watching Keith! Glad you finally got some shooting weather. Plan on doing some more 22lr ammo brand comparisons. Hoping for a cool calm day. Only have a couple of months left before it starts getting miserably hot.
My tx22 and 10/22 clone bothe love Aguila ammo, luckily it is some of the easiest. 22 ammo to find and it is not very expensive. Neither of them are very picky, but it's still nice to know for sure that they work with a certain type of ammo. The tx22 eats just about anything I feed it, but that's beside the point lol.
Thanks for watching thatoneguy! I am late to the Aguila game and wish I had started using them sooner. Good luck and have lots of fun with your shooting!
@@texmexshoots just tool my girlfriend out to the range again today and we put about 500 rounds of super extra 40 grain down range. There was one failure to fire but I turned the round so that the firing pin hit a different spot and it fired that time. It is the only time that has happened to me with this particular batch of ammo. I still have 4 250rd boxes of it left with the same lot number.
@@thatoneguy454c Sounds like you have a lot of fun times still ahead! With plenty of ammo and a fun girlfriend who will go with you to the range! Always fun when you have interests to share.
For the Aguila 22LR Hollowpoint, there seems to be 2 different versions of the 50-rd box of 38 gr hollowpoint. Sometimes, both descriptions says Super Extra Hollow point but the other one is just Hollow point with less velocity. The Bulk one matches the Super Extra Hollowpoint 50-rd box I bought before.
Thanks for watching Guy! You can't go wrong with CCI Standard. It does well out of a lot of my rifles and pistols. It was my first go to rimfire ammo. Now Aguila is competing with it.
I bought 3 aguila 500 rnd bulk packs a couple of years ago and the rounds were so waxed up, the casing was very sticky, that it caused high level of malfs in my 22 pistols. The 50 rnd individual boxes were not waxed like that at all and performed well. I well never buy aguila bulk again.
Thanks for watching Steve! You are not the first person to have that complaint. The waxing probably makes them a better fit for bolt/slide/lever actions, but would still require swabbing out the chamber after a lot of those rounds.
@texmexshoots It made my P17 unusable with the waxy rounds causing a malf at least every other shot, was much better with the 50rnd boxed ones and the clp cleaned case ones.
Save the boxed ammo package to put the bulk package ammo in after you sort it. Me, I just buy the boxed ammo and stay away from bulk packed ammo. Unless I can't find the individual 50 or 100 round boxes. Won't change the accuracy of the bulk ammo, just better storage. Identify the boxes someway though.
The bulk is loose and I find more loose bullets in the bulk packs. The 50 round cardboard was how most 22lr ammo came for many years and the cartridhes were already in contact and not allowed to move freely and they worked fine. Remington Thunderbolt used to be quality ammunition, believe it or not.
@@robertkubrick3738 Yeah, the 50 round boxes would rotate the rounds up and down to fit them snugly. I honestly haven’t had much experience with thunderbolts. As a kid I shots lots of Rem Yellowjackets and they seemed to work well. I do plan on testing some thunderbolts soon.
@@texmexshoots They are pretty sad these days. Speaking of all manufacturers, I wonder what went wrong that they now have such a hard time crimping a bullet in the case.
I have seen no difference in the AH' ghee lah bulk pack compared to the 50 box. Just can't find bulk packs here in Galveston/Houston area. The standard packs are available everywhere, now. I have seen slight differences in CCI bulk packs (not Blazer) on target (50 yds.) compared to standard 50 box. The CCI Bulk Packs bullets have small indentations in them, which as you alluded to, may cause a difference in flight.
Thanks for the input Chris! The Aguila bulk packs have been available in the Academy's and Bass Pro Shops in the San Antonio area. Hope they start to make it your way!
Hey Tex Mex, only guy with the LVT on TH-cam. Did you go to a different range or finally clean the brushes you mentioned while back? Anyways, thought the Ahh Gee Lah did better in the other videos? Have to watch again. Maybe cause you just fired out they didn't do well on the first shots. Surprised on the Blazer results, still you got to head out w/your Ruger(s). Like to find them 1500 buckets of Blazer I keep seeing but always out of stock.
I have two properties that I have access to shoot at. This is the smaller one that has much less brush. However the other property has a big hill which allows me to safely do some higher caliber shooting. And you are right, the aguila shot a lot better from the LVT in the bulk pack test.
@@texmexshoots check out this guy, Hamilton outdoors. Videos name, rifle action screw torque. All this time didn't know about it. Looks like it improves the grouping on how much or little you tighten it. Need to get one of them screwdrivers so I can find the sweet spot for my LVT. Should do a video on yours too, both the Rugers, see which setting is best for the 22s action screw.
@@texmexshoots yah just re-watch the Ahh Gee Lah, & did a whole lot better than this version. Also just noticed when you shot the Winchester 333 you made a number 3 on the target. 😳
@@lawrencehawk5179 That's a great idea. I have been a bit busy at work these last couple of months. During the shut down, a big part of my job was just backing up. Nowt that the flood gates are open, I am swamped. Sadly it will probably be this way through next year until things start to catch up. That being said, I intend to at least post one video a month. Hopefully more.
I sighted my LVT with Eley Target. But I did shoot Eley club out of it once and that got the tightest group to date. Haven't put any Lapua through it but will give it a try!
@@texmexshoots Seems Center-X is one of the very best I've seen on many occasions leave a single ragged hole @ 25yds. I read this on the youtube comments and adopted it for my targets, now I always fire 6 rounds for a true 5rd group and toss out the flyer for a much better representation of what to normally expect from each type of ammo.
Does anyone believe that either manufacturer has separate manufacturing lines for bulk versus packaged? I’ll bet the only difference is diverting the same ammo to one packaging step or the other. Would be interesting to see a video of them being made to confirm.
I would love a tour of a manufacturing plant! Although no one produces ammunition near me. At least not that I know of. Maybe someone with industry knowledge will come along and comment.
I hear on comparing .22lr ammo, out of different rifles. I seem to have found my preferred centerfire caliber rifles, but it seems I'm always getting another .22lr. Each time, it's off to the range with 1/2 doz of various ammos.
Hey there Jacob, thanks for watching! I don't think the blazer rounds have wax on them but the Aguila might. Hope all is well with you in New Mexico! Need to go visit my buddy over there and head to Las Cruces for some hiking!
Not sure you still monitor this video, but Ruger says dry fire all you want with fhe American Rimfire. Our dozen or so 10/22s in mine and my brothers families have been dry fired hundreds if not thousands of times each. No dry fire is a myth with ruger rifles. Do not dry fire a rimfire revolver though. Thanks!
Hey there Bryan! Thanks for the heads up! I know a lot of modern 22's can be dry fired safely. And it's good to know the American Rimfire and 10/22 fall in that category. Take care and stay safe!
I've had good results out of some of my rifles and pistols. Like most of my 22's, some love the ammo and others hate it. I have to keep notes to remember which ammo each firearm prefers.
It's 1am and I'm asking myself this question. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching Jacques. I plan on doing some other ammo tests here soon. Get some sleep!
I'm sure you are aware but, I noticed that the blazer ammo, the bulk pack was 38 grain, the standard pack was 40 grain. That could be a factor in the difference in group size.
Yup, it wasn't until I was editing the video that I noticed that. The weight disparity will definitely cause an issue in performance.
Your exactly correct my friend!! Big difference
Great video idea. I'd always wondered about this.
Thank you for watching! I only wish I had more ammunition to compare. The results were a bit surprising.
@@texmexshoots I 2nd that! I've wondered that myself and am glad someone put it to the test! Excellent job.
@@Jace_Izonn Thanks Jace!
Thanks, that was very helpful. I watch a local chain store's ad for their loss-leader sales and go after the .22LR ammo when the price is right (or at least 'improved' over the normal pricing.) I'll watch for the Blazer 50-round boxes to go on sale. I'm already staked out on the Aguila.
Thanks for Watching Frank.! That Blazer shoots well out of a few of my rifles. Just got back from visiting Colorado for a few days. Was nice to see the snow.
Good luck, I hope it works well with your forearm.
I just got one of those Aguila bulk packs. Wish I had grabbed more!
They really do shoot well out of many of my 22 rifles. I've been keeping an eye out for them as well.
I've been shooting it for a couple years now and it works out of several .22 semi-auto pistols without any issues. I think you will be happy with it. Maybe over two or three bulk packs I had one round that didn't' want to go off.
Today first time out to the range finally warmer temps here in Mid Michigan.
Took my 581s out compared CCI 40 gn RN and Aguilar 40gn RN.
45 rounds fired. The AG grouped the best.
Thanks for watching Keith! Glad you finally got some shooting weather. Plan on doing some more 22lr ammo brand comparisons. Hoping for a cool calm day. Only have a couple of months left before it starts getting miserably hot.
My tx22 and 10/22 clone bothe love Aguila ammo, luckily it is some of the easiest. 22 ammo to find and it is not very expensive. Neither of them are very picky, but it's still nice to know for sure that they work with a certain type of ammo. The tx22 eats just about anything I feed it, but that's beside the point lol.
Thanks for watching thatoneguy! I am late to the Aguila game and wish I had started using them sooner. Good luck and have lots of fun with your shooting!
@@texmexshoots just tool my girlfriend out to the range again today and we put about 500 rounds of super extra 40 grain down range. There was one failure to fire but I turned the round so that the firing pin hit a different spot and it fired that time. It is the only time that has happened to me with this particular batch of ammo. I still have 4 250rd boxes of it left with the same lot number.
@@thatoneguy454c Sounds like you have a lot of fun times still ahead! With plenty of ammo and a fun girlfriend who will go with you to the range! Always fun when you have interests to share.
Thanks for the video . My 10/22 needs a new extractor and firing pin . It is over 30 years old .
Thanks for watching David! I bet that old 10/22 has some great stories.
For the Aguila 22LR Hollowpoint, there seems to be 2 different versions of the 50-rd box of 38 gr hollowpoint. Sometimes, both descriptions says Super Extra Hollow point but the other one is just Hollow point with less velocity. The Bulk one matches the Super Extra Hollowpoint 50-rd box I bought before.
Thanks Magsonin! You are correct. It seems they make both 38 and 40 grain hollowpoint rounds. I assume the 40 grain would be the slower round.
Bought a bulk pack of cci standard 500 rounds was 10 50 round packs in a box wish all bulk came that way I have had good luck with aguila bulk to
Thanks for watching Guy! You can't go wrong with CCI Standard. It does well out of a lot of my rifles and pistols. It was my first go to rimfire ammo. Now Aguila is competing with it.
You can say Aguila which ever way you want, just say it and don't worry about what people think.
Can't argue with that!
I bought 3 aguila 500 rnd bulk packs a couple of years ago and the rounds were so waxed up, the casing was very sticky, that it caused high level of malfs in my 22 pistols. The 50 rnd individual boxes were not waxed like that at all and performed well. I well never buy aguila bulk again.
Thanks for watching Steve! You are not the first person to have that complaint. The waxing probably makes them a better fit for bolt/slide/lever actions, but would still require swabbing out the chamber after a lot of those rounds.
@texmexshoots It made my P17 unusable with the waxy rounds causing a malf at least every other shot, was much better with the 50rnd boxed ones and the clp cleaned case ones.
@@steves2664 Thanks for the heads up!
Save the boxed ammo package to put the bulk package ammo in after you sort it. Me, I just buy the boxed ammo and stay away from bulk packed ammo. Unless I can't find the individual 50 or 100 round boxes. Won't change the accuracy of the bulk ammo, just better storage. Identify the boxes someway though.
Good idea! Thanks for watching.
The bulk is loose and I find more loose bullets in the bulk packs. The 50 round cardboard was how most 22lr ammo came for many years and the cartridhes were already in contact and not allowed to move freely and they worked fine. Remington Thunderbolt used to be quality ammunition, believe it or not.
@@robertkubrick3738 Yeah, the 50 round boxes would rotate the rounds up and down to fit them snugly. I honestly haven’t had much experience with thunderbolts. As a kid I shots lots of Rem Yellowjackets and they seemed to work well. I do plan on testing some thunderbolts soon.
@@texmexshoots They are pretty sad these days. Speaking of all manufacturers, I wonder what went wrong that they now have such a hard time crimping a bullet in the case.
I have seen no difference in the AH' ghee lah bulk pack compared to the 50 box. Just can't find bulk packs here in Galveston/Houston area. The standard packs are available everywhere, now. I have seen slight differences in CCI bulk packs (not Blazer) on target (50 yds.) compared to standard 50 box. The CCI Bulk Packs bullets have small indentations in them, which as you alluded to, may cause a difference in flight.
Thanks for the input Chris! The Aguila bulk packs have been available in the Academy's and Bass Pro Shops in the San Antonio area. Hope they start to make it your way!
Hey Tex Mex, only guy with the LVT on TH-cam. Did you go to a different range or finally clean the brushes you mentioned while back? Anyways, thought the Ahh Gee Lah did better in the other videos? Have to watch again. Maybe cause you just fired out they didn't do well on the first shots. Surprised on the Blazer results, still you got to head out w/your Ruger(s). Like to find them 1500 buckets of Blazer I keep seeing but always out of stock.
I have two properties that I have access to shoot at. This is the smaller one that has much less brush. However the other property has a big hill which allows me to safely do some higher caliber shooting. And you are right, the aguila shot a lot better from the LVT in the bulk pack test.
@@texmexshoots check out this guy, Hamilton outdoors. Videos name, rifle action screw torque. All this time didn't know about it. Looks like it improves the grouping on how much or little you tighten it. Need to get one of them screwdrivers so I can find the sweet spot for my LVT. Should do a video on yours too, both the Rugers, see which setting is best for the 22s action screw.
@@texmexshoots yah just re-watch the Ahh Gee Lah, & did a whole lot better than this version. Also just noticed when you shot the Winchester 333 you made a number 3 on the target. 😳
@@lawrencehawk5179 Ha! I hadn't noticed that
@@lawrencehawk5179 That's a great idea. I have been a bit busy at work these last couple of months. During the shut down, a big part of my job was just backing up. Nowt that the flood gates are open, I am swamped. Sadly it will probably be this way through next year until things start to catch up. That being said, I intend to at least post one video a month. Hopefully more.
What's the tightest grouping non-$$$$$ ammo you've found for your LVT? And if cost is no object, Lapua Center-X??
I sighted my LVT with Eley Target. But I did shoot Eley club out of it once and that got the tightest group to date. Haven't put any Lapua through it but will give it a try!
@@texmexshoots Seems Center-X is one of the very best I've seen on many occasions leave a single ragged hole @ 25yds.
I read this on the youtube comments and adopted it for my targets, now I always fire 6 rounds for a true 5rd group and toss out the flyer for a much better representation of what to normally expect from each type of ammo.
guns can be fickle, if one brand doesn’t work well in semi autos another will. They all work good in bolt, lever, break, pump action and revolver.
Well said Mark. That has been my experience as well.
Tex Mex , I’m in the hill country also. Let catch up and go shoot sometime?
Hey there Jack! Feel free to email me.
Does anyone believe that either manufacturer has separate manufacturing lines for bulk versus packaged? I’ll bet the only difference is diverting the same ammo to one packaging step or the other. Would be interesting to see a video of them being made to confirm.
I would love a tour of a manufacturing plant! Although no one produces ammunition near me. At least not that I know of. Maybe someone with industry knowledge will come along and comment.
I hear on comparing .22lr ammo, out of different rifles. I seem to have found my preferred centerfire caliber rifles, but it seems I'm always getting another .22lr. Each time, it's off to the range with 1/2 doz of various ammos.
Yup! Rimfires tend to be the pickiest with ammo. At least there is more 22lr on the shelves now to make comparisons. Thanks for watching!
Are the blazer rounds have a wax on them ? Love the channel. Howdy from Edgewood New Mexico
Hey there Jacob, thanks for watching! I don't think the blazer rounds have wax on them but the Aguila might. Hope all is well with you in New Mexico! Need to go visit my buddy over there and head to Las Cruces for some hiking!
I found a sale of the Agulia for $13.99 250 rounds.
Nice find Morgan! Time to stock up.
Call it Eagle!
Eaglea!
Those rounds that failed to eject sounded very weak, so it wasn’t the rifle’s fault.
Thanks for watching. That is certainly possible. I'm trying to use chronographs with my testing now which could show problems like that.
Whats the range 50,75 100 looks about 100
Thanks for watching! I had the targets set at 50 yards. The camera makes it look farther than it really is.
Not sure you still monitor this video, but Ruger says dry fire all you want with fhe American Rimfire. Our dozen or so 10/22s in mine and my brothers families have been dry fired hundreds if not thousands of times each. No dry fire is a myth with ruger rifles. Do not dry fire a rimfire revolver though. Thanks!
Hey there Bryan! Thanks for the heads up! I know a lot of modern 22's can be dry fired safely. And it's good to know the American Rimfire and 10/22 fall in that category. Take care and stay safe!
Aguila ammo is crap.....inconsistent....too many fliers
I've had good results out of some of my rifles and pistols. Like most of my 22's, some love the ammo and others hate it. I have to keep notes to remember which ammo each firearm prefers.
That's not my experience but I have not had the opportunity to shoot it at any long ranges.
You must have some worn out barrels!
Find an educated Adult to explain "inconsistent" to you@@boopy123
I agree, I've had nothing but problems with their ammo I stay clear of it now. And my barrels are not worn out.
Target moves too much !!!
Sorry nikeandros. The wind was pushing it a bit. I've started to put them onto a wood pallet to avoid exactly that.