VW Fuel Regulator Update - What HAPPENED???
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Hi All, Well, the regulator I installed went bad and started leaking fuel! In this video, I replace it with the:
Holly 12-804 1-4psi regulator: goo.gl/Q8wbKr
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• HFS (Tm) Carburetor Carb Valve Fuel Pump Pressure & Vacuum Tester Gauge Test Kit: goo.gl/wZZmZy
• Air cooled VW bug beetle fuel pump kit with flange & rod, generator style: goo.gl/7qDcnC
• 1/2 In Drive Digital Torque Adapter by USATNM: goo.gl/vEZ4mc
• Permatex 80016 Form-A-Gasket #2. 3 oz.: goo.gl/t5bH4z
• LDR 516 F146 ¼ Inch ID Fuel Line for Small Engines 6-Foot Length: goo.gl/i2WEyt
• Jmf Hose Barb 90 Deg. 3/8 " Hose Barb X 1/8 " Mpt Yellow Brass 150 Psi Lead Free: goo.gl/FoSj4k
• Koehler Enterprises KE4SS Hose Clamp Blister Pack, 4 Piece (Micro Size 4): goo.gl/chZpPw
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Hi All, Well, the regulator I installed went bad and started leaking fuel! In this video, I replace it with a Holly 12-804 1-4psi regulator: goo.gl/Q8wbKr
Tools and parts:
• HFS (Tm) Carburetor Carb Valve Fuel Pump Pressure & Vacuum Tester Gauge Test Kit: goo.gl/wZZmZy
• Air cooled VW bug beetle fuel pump kit with flange & rod, generator style: goo.gl/7qDcnC
• 1/2 In Drive Digital Torque Adapter by USATNM: goo.gl/vEZ4mc
• Permatex 80016 Form-A-Gasket #2. 3 oz.: goo.gl/t5bH4z
• LDR 516 F146 ¼ Inch ID Fuel Line for Small Engines 6-Foot Length: goo.gl/i2WEyt
• Jmf Hose Barb 90 Deg. 3/8 " Hose Barb X 1/8 " Mpt Yellow Brass 150 Psi Lead Free: goo.gl/FoSj4k
• Koehler Enterprises KE4SS Hose Clamp Blister Pack, 4 Piece (Micro Size 4): goo.gl/chZpPw
• The Extinguisher we have in every car: Amerex A384T, 1.4lb Halotron I Class B C Fire Extinguisher: goo.gl/1dkRVJ
Good video Franny. I'm set up with a Carter 60430 with this regulator into a singe Weber .40 carb. I put a 0-5 PSI mechanical gauge on the other output and it works pretty well. I tried a Marshall liquid filled 1.5 inch gauge initially and that gauge had me chasing my tail trying to get the 3 psi I was looking for. What I do notice is that my pressure goes immediately to zero when I shut down. Is that normal for an electrical rotary style pump?
Franny, the Blackhawk ratchet is a keeper for sure. I bought mine after watching your video a few years back. Please go back to doing your garage "stuff"...I miss it! They also help me with my 1974 SB and my 1967 911S.
I'm surprised it's not leaking. I see no Teflon tape on the npt fittings and just threaded in
Now you know why the dial in fuel regulators are junk. I'm glad you went with a better regulator. If I were you I would mount the new regulator to the fan shroud. The location where you have the regulator now is a fire hazard on standby.
Check out this video.th-cam.com/video/vRYOW9WLHLs/w-d-xo.html
Good, clear video but I hope you’ve rerouted that rubber fuel line and the spark plug wire as they were both resting right up against the inlet pre-heater pipe!!! Need I remind you those pipes get scorching hot - massive fire hazard on your hands there!! Check it out @ 2.48 mins in...
I wish Franny was my nextdoor neighbor, if she was, I might actually get to drive my bettle one day rather than working endlessly on it!
Buck Gill that can be frustrating, but the good thing about working on your beetle is that every job you do is a job fixed. And to top it off, it’s not a new car that you need a science degree to wrench on. Also, I recently discovered through my own experience that new VWs use plastic engine parts. Oil pan, plastic. Intake, plastic. Water pump assembly, plastic. Luckily it cracked under warranty. But I’m not confident that a meticulously maintained Golf had a mechanical failure in such a short time with such few kilometres. I’m selling it and going back to a beetle.
@@whatsstefon - seems like one fixed job has led to another🤔
@@FLATearthGARY that’s life with older cars.
Dear Franny.
Your videos are my only lifeline.
I’ve been upgrading systems in my recently purchased 1971 VW Van (Cletus) and everything is really rough and I’ve never done any of this before.
With your videos it gives me the courage to do it and learn.
Oh, that's great! Glad they are helpful :)
Freaking best bug videos anywhere. I have a 58 body, 63 chassis and 69 engine. Thanks. Awesome videos.
Yea! Thanks!
good find ive tried the dial regulator on my buggy it failed
Great to you a Volkswagen style metal fuel filter.......but GET IT OUT of the engine bay. It should be under the fuel tank or behind the shroud.
I put mine along side the transmission. I don't like them in the engine bay either
I would have to say relocate that fuel regulator too!
Great videos lots of important information when customer asks me why they need a new fuel pump or carb i send them your videos to explain
Hi Franny, Can you provide a link or description for all the brass fittings? I see the 90 degree 3/8 up to the carb, what did you use in from the tank and to block off the unused port.
problem with 1st regulator , max operating pressure 7 psi , you needed a higher rated pump reg. , amazon 140 psi operated will do !!
Franny I can't say this enough I💝💘😍 you. You've made me a better man.
Blessings and more Blessings
Another way to adjust the fuel pressure is to grind the flat end of the fuel pump pushrod in small increments until the desired pressure is reached .. Keep in mind that the Generator push rod is not the same length as the Alternator push rod ..
you need a bypass regulator the bleeds the extra pressure off behind the pump. i know this video is 4 years old but I'll elaborate if needed.
It would help better if it was in depth and detail little bit more as far as mounting connections what sizes how to measure well I did that bought my Holley fuel regulator put it on there and the whole damn thing just poured fuel out so did not work for me that's why I'm saying get into detail about putting plugs in caps on hoses on blah blah blah explain it a little bit more in detail thanks the aggravated one
Hi my name is Banjo I have the Holly fuel regulator where did you hook up the pressure tester to get your reading of two and a half how do you hook the tester on the fuel regulator
Love your videos, but you really need to pay more attention to safety. Didn’t anyone ever tell you not to work on moving machinery with long, loose hair? Rewatch this video right after you have installed the new regulator as you are showing the line routing. At one point, with your head right in front to the (moving) fan belt, you turned to face the camera and your ponytail swung around right in front of it and I swear, I jumped in my seat because I was sure your head was gonna get pulled into the motor. You should know better.
I thought that too, but I think the camera angle makes her look closer to the fan belt than she really is.
Great video! Thank you for sharing
I have that same regulator sitting on a shelf. I think I definitely need to install it. I was stubborn grinding down the pin as I wanted it to work as intended, but I think this way is much more accurate. Thanks again Franny.
Home Built By Jeff I was too! I ground down the old pin to just shy of 3psi and I thought I would just touch it the tiniest bit more... Put it back together and no pressure at all! That's what convinced me! Jerry (the owner) has been driving the car daily and says it is running great. I hope he isn't just saying that, but that holly seems quite a bit better than the old one... I used permatex on the threads of the couplers and that worked well... Love your 911 work. I need to keep going... Did you get the bent ring sorted? F
The bent ring needs to be custom made, so it will more than likely be a few weeks. Then I need to shop the whole lot back, so we will see how it goes.
Congratulations, great video. hello from Brazil
No one must’ve told you those regulators are trash also
As always, excellent post! Thank you for keeping on.... :-)
You have fuel touching your heat riser which is exhaust temp bad idea,always run steel tube or insulate near them
I meant fuel line (hose)
The replacement regulator is great. I've used those time and again on various projects. At those pressures that should last that car for years to come. I would suspect it would need a new pump long before the regulator. Great video and clean install.
I'm installing a pair of Weber 34 ICT dual carburetors on a bus that doesn't have a regulator on it now and wondering how do you know which one do you use?
I bet the Holly would have enough flow. Just use the pressure gauge and look for a pressure drop at WOT. If it holds you should be just fine... The Holly should have a spec on flow rate. It might be harder to find for your carbs...
Frannie-here is my humble .02: the best thing you can do is dispense altogether with the mechanical fuel pump. Electric fuel pumps work great-install in front of car below tank level and you can get them 3psi right out the box.Solex carbs do great with 3 psi.In this case no need for regulator. I have used them as T set set up for dual carbs and the Holley works fine.You are correct the other is one scheisse. Advantage of electric is no more vapor lock ever. Of course you would need to install a safety fuel shut off relay as well if you go the electric route. Anyway cheers.
Had a few questions:
I'm installing a Carter electric fuel pump to my Ghia. Im installing it in the front, right as it takes off from the gas tank.The Carter electric fuel pump comes with a filter. Do u need to install another fuel filter in the rear? ( I would say yes, right?).
Second question:
I'm removing my old fuel and capping it off with a fuel pump block off. Should I remove the plastic base along with the pin? (Once again, I believe I should). I'm I right?
Franny, I put a Fuel regulator on my 74' supper beetle and it corrected my problem per you video. my pump was flooding the carburetor/engine. all engines should hove this installed. However, when engine cooled down I could not start, no fuel, or I should say it drained from the fuel filter. Engine would start with start fluid then stop. So, I'm on suspicion I damaged the pump because {if the pump produces 4 lbs. of fuel and I regulate to 2 lbs. the remaining 2lbs. had nowhere to go} I'm thinking of a bypass valve to redirect. your thoughts. Hans
Hmmm... something doesn't sound quite right. Check the pressure after the pump and then after the regulator (or simply bypass the regulator). Just confirm the pump has pooped out. It shouldn't hurt the pump but if it is old and needs a rebuild it might be time... F
I wish Franny was my mechanic! I have a '78 convertible with fuel injection that is maintained by a vintage VW specialist who is nearing retirement and nobody else in my city knows much about them. I'm glad that are younger people like Franny who have a passion for these vintage cars and knows their stuff!
Thanks so much!
I continue to have fuel problems. The Rod that actuates the fuel pump is not moving up and down. Any thoughts ?
The rod only moves as it passes cyl#1 on the distributor. Have you gone all the way around a couple times?
I have 1967 vw beetle 1600 DP, should that be also at 2.8 psi or any difference
Well, it is more about the type of carburetor you have. Just search for the specs and that will tell you. As a rule of thumb, stay below 3.2 psi and watch the pressure meter when you shut off the car. It should hold steady.
Thanks! Will do
@@HeidiandFranny Here's my Carb.. weber 44 idf.. what do you think.. having hard time finding the right psi. Thank you again
The fuel leaking out of the top is so, you can use it as a lamp to work on your engine....Just light the fuel on fire and presto...you will be able to see to replace your fuel filter and adjust your sawmill distributor.
If it says EMPI, walk away. Probably when you opened the blister pack you could smell the Chinesium.
However it was chrome! Whats the deal with EVERY aftermarket part for VW's being chrome? Kawabunga dude!
Sorry...I had to do that!
When I was younger I went into a VW salvage yard and saw a 55 gal. drum of original fuel pumps... (I saw 2 - 55 gal drums of original distributors) and I thought Gee!....everybody is getting new fuel pumps. Well, my car at the time had one of these cheap fuel pumps. And I had endless trouble out of it. You would think aftermarket companies would make good fuel pumps...not so.
What I did to fix this was this.
I accepted my brothers (Yoda) mantra of original parts only. ''When you add or take away original designs and parts from a VW you are gargling trouble''.
So, I found out what kind of engine I had, more importantly what kind of distributor drive I had. Because the fuel pump rod works in conjunction with the cam profile on the distributor drive. Got used ORIGINAL parts, cleaned and put new diaphragms in the fuel pump (you can still get good rebuild kits)
Got out the Bentley book found the correct parameters and adjusted them with zero...extra gaskets (see mantra above) Put every thing together and it worked flawlessly.
Also I removed my engine fire ( fuel filter) above all that white hot metal and my then ,wildly sparking/arcing sawmill distributor. Because VW never put a fuel filter in there (see Yoda above) The original design was a fuel filter in the tank, and there is a brass bolt on the front of the original fuel pump....behind that is (DISCO!) the secondary fuel filter.
So VW fixed all the problems for you...yeaaaayyy!
From :
having ''pea shooters'' correct depth in your original exhaust (NO HEADERS) so that correct back pressure is obtained to push exhaust gas into the preheat tube on your intake. Allowing the carb to be warmed atomizing the mixture properly so the engine runs proper and doesn't foul plugs.
To:
Running the correct distributor to help keep #3 cylinder cooler (retarded cam lobe, single port engines)
To:
Having EVERY piece of tin
To:
Running dual port engines in cars with (SLOTS IN THE DECK LID FOR COOLING!)
Its all in the Bently......Not Climer, Hayes bla, bla, bla books...Bently book. If its all original (as close as you can get) it will last longer, and give you less trouble.
Now I will climb off my soap box.
Great channel, love your work, love VW's...keep on buggin!
Good lesson thanks alot.
Another great video
I have had that Holly fuel pressure regulator seep fuel on my 1985 1st Gen Mazda rx7 SCCA ITA race car. It didn't really leak in drips but it did show signs of wetness after a few races, so keep an eye on if for a while.
Thanks for the tip! I'll keep an eye out.
@@HeidiandFranny 😁👍
I like how thorough you are and meticulous. I am the same way, and it's getting hard to find that.
Thank you for the update!!
Nice Video. I'm (for some reason) really intersted in the bike carbs conversion, but I only find videos in inline engines, I have seen some pictures of Beetle engines with them, but just that. This regulator would be nice in this sort of adaptation.
hello heidi on 1200 engine year 1977 I could install, thank you to you I just saw your great video😘😘👏👏👏👏👏👏
The stock fuel pump puts out max of 3.5. Never used a regulator with stock fuel pump. I use an electric fuel pump on my dual 44 IDF Weber engine with a fuel regulator set at 3.5 max.
God bless You lovely Lady ..I’ll will work on my 1967 Bug.
Heidi and Franny - I just installed the Holly 12-804 regulator that you link below into my 1970 KG and no matter what I do, I can't get it below 3.0. Turn the hex nut all the way to the left eventually unscrews it from the top of the unit before it can go below 3.0. Thoughts?
Email us on the website.
Same issue here. I think my problem is that I'm using an electric fuel pump. The pressure is building too high before I can get the engine started.
Great video! I have a question maybe you, or somebody here can help me with. I have a 2110 Turbo charged stroker motor in a dune buggy. It seems to run great but on long rides usually when I shift into 4th gear, it will bog out when giving it gas to the point I can't keep it running regardless of the gear I am in. I have to shut it off, let it sit for a few minutes then it runs great again. Could this be a fuel regulator issue? I have a Malpassi Seregno fuel regulator. Any help would be greatly appreciated!.
I watch MT on DishNetwork. It is a great channel. You should submit to do some bug segments for them.
Hi Franny - Just received my 67' 1300 today here in the south of France. This is the first thing on my checklist - Thank you so much for your videos - Just awesome.
Would this be the same pressure if it had dual carbs?
Hi Raymond, yes the pressure is the same. Just make sure your pump and regulator can handle the flow for two carbs at the correct pressure.
I found your troubleshooting technique pretty thorough when "Lemon Drop" died on it's way back from your shop with it's owner. Very clever use of the vacuum line cap to extend the fuel pump rod. I had a 72 "Super Beetle" purchased used overseas in Spain while I was stationed there with the US Navy. I brought the car back to VT once I got out of the USN. That 72 Super Beetle of mine had a number of problems over the 6 or 7 years I owned it, but I wouldn't go into that extensive list. Poor design, lousy manufacturing, etc..., still didn't take everything away from it being my 1st car and I enjoyed it a lot. Of course, I swore I'd never to own another VW vehicle, and never have. My hat's off to you for your shop, and your work on these cars. I learned a lot about regular maintenance on vehicles with that bug.
Your videos are very informative, fun to watch, and I enjoy them. (I've even learned a thing or two :-) . Maybe a small bucket, or coffee can, etc..., when you think you'll have to pull off a fuel line, or fuel pump on your next road side house call ;-). Great site, and well done to you both.
Thanks for the followup and saving some headaches as well as time/money for those of us who may need to follow suit with the addition of a pressure regulator.
Hi Franny, Also if you see gas dripping into the carb with the car shutoff, is it more than likely the pressure?
Yet another brilliant & concise video,thank you.
Todo está bien pero lo que si no debe de ser es instalar un filtro de gasolina dónde está la bobina de encendido es peligroso debe de ir la manguera directa hasta el carburador el filtro de gas debe de ir ya sea donde está el tanque de combustible o muy por detrás de la tolva "doghouse" felicidades por sus videos y saludos!
Thanks again, I just added the same regulator. I did not add anything to the threads. I’ll keep an eye on it for leaks.
Excellent video - I recently bought a new carb for my stock 1200 and was having no success in getting the idle & mixture screws to respond appropriately! I picked up a fuel pressure gauge based on your last video and tested the fuel pump pressure - 4.2psi !! I now have a new regulator on the way ( I definitely would have went for the cheaper EMPI ). Really appreciate the content THANK YOU!
great video! thanks for the follow up
I'm glad I watched this. I had one of those.
Great video. Thank you
Man-o-man! So clear and concise about every step! Love this.
Ta FUQ
wow great car and your engine wow.. clean
I have the same issue, I’m loosing pressure after the car is shut off. But mine won’t even start. It was working fine was starting it every week 2-3 times. After I replaced the front brakes, shite rod coupler and bushing it started to have issues now won’t start. Unless I put gas down the carb. I replaced the fuel pump and it is putting out about 5psi. You said that was high so a regulator is in the future installation plans. But it won’t start at all without gas been poured on the carb. Any ideas?
Sounds like your choke isn't operating... Is the step cam rotating down when the car is cold? It also needs to be plugged in so that it can retract as the car warms up.
I have a question and thank you if someone answers it, in this video it was spoken of making sure the pressure was being held even with the car off, I just installed the same regulator, adjust it to 2.1-2.2 on a dual Kadron 44's for a 1915 motor, but when motor is off pressure goes up to 3.1 on the needle... Is this a problem or?
Shouldn't be. You just don't want the pressure to exceed what the float valve (needle and seat) can hold. just let it sit after the engine has stopped for a few minutes and re-check the pressure. If it holds you are good.
Franny for the test with the pressure gauge it looks like you put a tee in the fuel line. Is that correct?
Yes.
This is actually what working on any car is like, mistakes are made and experience is gained, thanks Franny for showing your mistakes.👍👍👍👍
do another video on testing pump pressure first , and buying apump rated for it !!!
Hi Franny, I have not gotten a 73 beetle yet.. I do like to work on cars. I will get that super toolkit that you meantioned. I liked the lemon drop video. That was amazing how you pin pointed the problem so quickly. I will get that John Muir book. I have never owned a classic beetle yet. I hope it is a ton easier that working on a 2000 vw Passat v6. My previous car. Thanks again
And easier to work on on the road. I hope you find a great car :) Let us know how it goes. Safe Travels! F
Hi Franny. Would you trust a vw beetle to do a coast to coast drive? I am thinking about buying a 73 super beetle to drive from east coast to west coast and back. I always wanted to do this. Am I asking for trouble?
Dwayne, are you a person who likes to tinker? John Muir has the book ‘How to keep your Volkswagon Alive’, and that is how he would sort his car. You will probably need a super toolkit and there may even be a network of people available for parts along the way. You just really need to be prepared. So, asking for trouble is a tough question. How sorted is the car? How do you feel about working on it? What did you think of the Lemon Drop ‘stranded’ video?
Great video. Hope the new regulator performs better :)
Do you think running an electric fuel pump is ok or are you against them. Just want to get your opinion. Thanks
Hi Brent, I think they are just fine. Unless you have an bone stock car, it is a great option and can even blow through the stock pump, but be careful that the mechanical pump has a good diaphragm or it will dump gas into the engine! Probably best to remove the old pump and cap off the hole. Be sure that the pump you install is for carburetors and puts out no more than 3.5psi.
Well made video with all the info I need. Excellent work Heidi and Franny.
Thanks!
can high fuel pressure affect idle speed/adjustment.
It can... If it is blowing past the needle and seat then it will lower the idle by making the engine run rich.
great video.
I love Holley
I appreciate the "what went wrong" honesty of the intended fix.
didn't read package , regulator for under 7 psi pump ,
Hi Franny, did you add thread tape or anything to the fittings?
Hi Shawn, that is a great question! I had done a bit of research on that and looks like any type of pipe tape could break off and clog something downstream. I used some Permatex #2 on the threads and that worked really well. Franny
In the links, the 90 degree hose barb you have listed is 3/8” with 1/8 barb. In the video you said you were using 3/8” with 3/8 barb. Did you make a mistake in the links or decide to go with the smaller barb? Thank you so much for all of your videos. Saved me countless times!
Probably! Just use the correct size for your fuel line. The original is metric and kinda in between those two sizes...
@@HeidiandFranny - thank you so much for all of your help. Sincerely, Gary
Thank you for ALL of your “how to” videos, wow!
…You truly have been a blessing!
Thank you for the Video
You're welcome :)
Well I just ordered the empi fuel regulator after watching the fuel pump install video. Wish I saw this video before I ordered it. :(
Can you call and switch the order?
I’m just going to send it back when I receive it. Thanks. Love your videos!
Well, it worked for a while. Everyone told us not to get and we had to find out ourselves. Sorry, I thought we noted it on the original video.
Can you use 6 psi electric fuel pump with Holley fuel regulator 1 4 psi?
Great vid. Thank you
great job...more power to you...
You don't need a regulator for that engine they never came with one, you can just shim the fuel pump if needed . And that non stock 009 distributor isnt helping either
That is true for a stock pump, but not the aftermarket pumps, unfortunately. You can't shim the pump (or grind the rod)... If you get the pressure into the 2.5psi range, the flow is so low that you will run lean at speed which could be the end of your engine. I tried all that first with the gauge hooked up. Agreed on the 009. I'm not a fan...