Contain them with lasers, then approach. If they're shielding before you get there, laser grab or shield pressure. If they're not shielding, nair/dair into a combo or edgeguard. If they're above you and safe from lasers, either maintain spacing until they drop, or mindlessly spam aerials at them, depending on how much you respect their punish game.
Can u explain what you mean by ledgehop turnaround lasers? Do you mean as an edgeguard tool, b/c I don't understand why you would turn around a double jump from ledge unless you want to face offstage
Don't forget PPMD's godlike laser dash dance,it's not all about platform maneuverability. Good tutorial, and lol at all the "Falco Neutral Pt. 2!" comments.
I nominate an in depth guide for Marth's chaingrab on Fox on Falco. Including exact percentages, what moves to do for each DI, what tech we should practice (pivot grabs and all the other stuff I can't do). I wish for this guide to be so in depth I have about all options of theirs covered so that one grab will make me zero to death them in a Mew2King-esque style. Also what holds you back from uploading more videos at a faster rate?
Anis Tarafdar You're basically just going to want to throw in U-tilt at around 40% and when they get to 50% it's safe for you to start doing short-hop u-airs.
some people have said this is a problem for them, but i dont have the exact answer since i havent had this problem, but what i've heard is that you're probably flicking it too hard in one direction. try being a bit more gentle with the movements
***** ride up the wall with your recovery so you are touching the wall and press r/L BEFORE you get hit. You have a pretty huge window, so I really don't understand how people think its difficult. I get it pretty much every time, just press r/L EVERY time you up b, and you will tech automatically if they hit you while you are riding the wall.
You cant tech if they hit you after you are over the ledge, like in the case of marth's counter (havent tested but you might be able to if you smash di super good). However, if you sweetspot the ledge perfectly with the perfect angle, moves like marths counter and falco's onstage short hop dair wont hit you.
I wish there was like a step by step of the actual button presses of each of these moves, not just a video. I'm having a hard time figuring out how to execute this.
I know this is really weird, but I REALLY want to see some oddball characters. I'd love to see Link neutral game, even though he's pretty low-tier. He's just so. Fun.
should I be l canceling short hop lasers or is that only possible with neutral aerials? I know that's sort of a newby question Im just trying to learn more about the game lol
+Kyle Blasberg also, I'm having trouble getting the third laser out on the full hop and idk why I feel like that should be the easiest one. any pointers on that one?
I know this is so uncommon but please Pikachu Neutral Game! It will be really helpful since he's not as popular since all the centralizing videos are on spacies.
When I try to do the run off double jump laser, I either do a side b off stage or just go too low down to recover back on stage, this is way harder than I expected. :|
+SSBM Tutorials I wouldn't say brutally hard necessarily, just need a bunch of practice for the majority of the cast to do well to get the muscle memory down. It's unique for me from any other game because it requires much practice and dedication, not necessarily a high intelligence (what I think of as hard)
+Kyle Blasberg Don't push the control stick all the way to the left and all the way down. Should be a subtle motion, maybe 1/3rd to 1/2 of the distance
Falco Neutral Game Part 2!
Spritznok Just don't Let BFox catch wind of this....
Falco neutral Part 2 omg yes please.
Contain them with lasers, then approach. If they're shielding before you get there, laser grab or shield pressure. If they're not shielding, nair/dair into a combo or edgeguard. If they're above you and safe from lasers, either maintain spacing until they drop, or mindlessly spam aerials at them, depending on how much you respect their punish game.
Don't forget about walk off turn around lasers from the platforms. Or ledge hop turn around lasers ("The Mango").
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Can u explain what you mean by ledgehop turnaround lasers? Do you mean as an edgeguard tool, b/c I don't understand why you would turn around a double jump from ledge unless you want to face offstage
Don't forget PPMD's godlike laser dash dance,it's not all about platform maneuverability. Good tutorial, and lol at all the "Falco Neutral Pt. 2!" comments.
I nominate an in depth guide for Marth's chaingrab on Fox on Falco. Including exact percentages, what moves to do for each DI, what tech we should practice (pivot grabs and all the other stuff I can't do). I wish for this guide to be so in depth I have about all options of theirs covered so that one grab will make me zero to death them in a Mew2King-esque style. Also what holds you back from uploading more videos at a faster rate?
Anis Tarafdar You're basically just going to want to throw in U-tilt at around 40% and when they get to 50% it's safe for you to start doing short-hop u-airs.
Anis Tarafdar Mostly time. Kellen has other jobs and is a student in school. That is an excellent idea, I'll add that to the google doc
Falco Neutral Game Part 2 PLS
Falco Neutral Game Part 2
i dont know if this is a controller issue but i keep randomly turning around while lazering when im not moving the analog stick at all. very annoying
some people have said this is a problem for them, but i dont have the exact answer since i havent had this problem, but what i've heard is that you're probably flicking it too hard in one direction. try being a bit more gentle with the movements
You can hit forward right before you laser to cancel this out.
Fox Neutral Game
Part 2 please
[Tech Skill] How to Wall-tech Recovery
I think that would be very interesting to see. Keep up the good work!
***** ride up the wall with your recovery so you are touching the wall and press r/L BEFORE you get hit. You have a pretty huge window, so I really don't understand how people think its difficult. I get it pretty much every time, just press r/L EVERY time you up b, and you will tech automatically if they hit you while you are riding the wall.
PoppinFresh Thanks man I appreciate it! I'll practice it now :)
You cant tech if they hit you after you are over the ledge, like in the case of marth's counter (havent tested but you might be able to if you smash di super good). However, if you sweetspot the ledge perfectly with the perfect angle, moves like marths counter and falco's onstage short hop dair wont hit you.
PoppinFresh I'd definitely keep that in mind. Thanks. :)
I wish there was like a step by step of the actual button presses of each of these moves, not just a video. I'm having a hard time figuring out how to execute this.
Will you also cover falcos recovery and getting back on the stage?
I feel like im losing stocks to bad players just because of gimps
Sheik neutral game please! Cover approaching and spacing especially.
I know this is really weird, but I REALLY want to see some oddball characters.
I'd love to see Link neutral game, even though he's pretty low-tier. He's just so. Fun.
Hey, I'd love to see a video about approaches, maybe with sheik?
Edgeguarding with Yeeglypuff!
Been waiting for this :)
Sheik neutral game, incluye aproximacion (aproaching and spacing)
Incredibly helpful! Thanks guys!
Can we get a fox neutral game tutorial?
Waveshining or shine shield pressure
How do you do the Run Off Double Jump Laser without turning around?
Whys it called an isai drop? Did he discover it even though he played falcon?
how do u do the fall off double jump laser , it seems really good to use on spacies after u combo them near ledge
1. run off
2. jump
3. let go of control stick
4. press b
5. press back towards the stage
Can you do one on Doc's neutral?
Falco Neutral Game Part 2 please :D
should I be l canceling short hop lasers or is that only possible with neutral aerials? I know that's sort of a newby question Im just trying to learn more about the game lol
+Kyle Blasberg also, I'm having trouble getting the third laser out on the full hop and idk why I feel like that should be the easiest one. any pointers on that one?
I know this is so uncommon but please Pikachu Neutral Game! It will be really helpful since he's not as popular since all the centralizing videos are on spacies.
falco neutral game part 2
Peach dash dancing and wavedashing utility and intermediate/advanced neutral game
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Hi ! how do you isai drop ? does shield drop work as well in this situation ?
Klemes67 oh my b you showed isai drop.
Falco shine tutorials?
Tips for marth dittos?
When I try to do the run off double jump laser, I either do a side b off stage or just go too low down to recover back on stage, this is way harder than I expected. :|
this ain't smash 4
Um ok? What does that have to do with smash 4?
Lol just saying this game is brutally hard. Unlike some other games
I never played smash 4 though, but I see what you mean, just started playing melee recently and I am ready to learn lol :D
+SSBM Tutorials I wouldn't say brutally hard necessarily, just need a bunch of practice for the majority of the cast to do well to get the muscle memory down. It's unique for me from any other game because it requires much practice and dedication, not necessarily a high intelligence (what I think of as hard)
I'm famous. Thanks Kira.
Falco neutral game part 2
Falco Neutral Game Part 2! :)
anybody got tips on getting the Isaiah drop down?
+Kyle Blasberg Don't push the control stick all the way to the left and all the way down. Should be a subtle motion, maybe 1/3rd to 1/2 of the distance
Ice Climbers wobble tutorial.
Falco neutral game part 2!
peach combo game/ armada match analysis' vs . marth at apex 2015!
Ledge Teching [Tech Skill Tutorial]
falco neutral game part 2 please
Falcon tech chase on spacies
YES!! THANK YOU!
part 2 plz fam
sheik neutral game (vs spacies especially)
falco neutral game part 12
can you shffl falco laser?
don't have to L cancel it but yes you can short hop and fastfall it
FOX/FALCO MOONWALK offstage bair
Smash Brothers players are scared to do quarter circle motions but yet they do quarter circle motions
The logic
Where is it to be found
i want my two minutes back
Falco neutral 2
Falcon v Marth Matchup!
How do u isai drop?
+Justin wayne Oliver i believe it's explained in the video but you move your control stick slightly forward before you drop down through the platform
its so hard!
its a bit tricky for sure. just do a quarter circle motion from right to down, except you barely need the right input to go anywhere
thanks I got it! I just have to apply it now!
Fox recoveries. against marth
Thomas Ricci i just have a friend that BThrows me off and it makes me sad :((((((
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HOW TO DEFEAT FALCO NEUTRAL GAME
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20xx guide part 2
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Falco Neutral part 2
Fox tech skill!!!
FALCO NEURAL GAME PART 2
Sheik Neutral Game!
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Falco Neutral Game Part 2
Falco Neutral Game Part 2!
Fox Neutral Game
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Falco Neutral Game Part 2
Falco Neutral Game Part 2