Always amuses me when characters go basically nowhere in-game but will suddenly launch themselves to the moon in cutscenes as if its something they could always do.
Meamwhile, you have Ganondorf who can literally float in OOT, meaning its likely TP Ganondorf can do the same, but he has some of the worst recovery in the game. aside
@Leeloo_the_foxPit will die if that happens, and dark pit has unlimited flight not because he is stronger than pit, but because he absorbed Pandora's remains.
I would’ve said we could count the 3 Sacred Treasures(which let Pit fly without the power of flight granted by Palu or Viridi) but those got destroyed in Uprising. Also, even looking at Pit’s solo jump height in the games, the original kid Icarus is a platformer, and he’s got a decent jump height, but he only gets one. His uprising hops kind of suck though.
erm actually kirby is only a few centimeters tall and he dosent jump 500 feet he actually is only jumping his height or a little more per jump therefore ur wrong ☝🤓
@@YamFRFRf everything about kirby is cannon he destroys every other character. In terms of strengh: kirby can hit a rushing meteor the size of a city back in to space screeching at multiple light years per second with a wooden baseball bat. Speed: kirby can run against the force of a black hole meaning he and sonic on foot are essentially on equal footing. In terms of derability: in canvas curse Drawcia tried to thanos snap him out of exsistence, the only thing it did to the pink puff ball was piss him off.
@@lutetiunn wellll not quite. The space jump is (more often that not) acquired before the screwattack in metroid games. It's an ability that further enhances the jump rather than directly enabling it. But ye infinite up B is LORE ACCURATE!!
7:58 Nick flying around the course with Meta Knight while explaining the rules of a jumping game to Poppt who is literally playing as a mouse is fucked up and hilarious 😂
TECHNICALLY Pit can only use Palutena's gift of Flight for 5 minutes before his wings burn up but this only happens once during a cutscene for gameplay's sake
Not sure how programmable that would be, probably near impossible if I had to guess, but Pit should only be able to jump an infinite amount of time for 5 minutes, each jump after that should set him on fire and deal 80% in self damage (mmm, chicken wings) As for Captain Falcon, the anime made it pretty clear he can JUMP
While Kirby and Dedede do get infinite double jumps in their games, the actual height you get per Button press is rather small. you have to really spam the button to go up fast, and as such, the height of their multijump should have been nerfed even though they have infinite of them.
"Fox jumps so high in the subspace cutscene" Nick "not canon since its smash so cant use it" Also Nick: *uses captain falcon reveal trailer from smash*
He is definitely not the length of my forearm, that's for sure. As soon as I saw that I was like "that ain't right" Funnily enough in the match it looked accurate
If you count that advent children scene, than you can make Mario jump to heaven then. In Mario Strikers Charged he can literally jump higher than a building
Pit can’t fly as long as he wants. If he uses the Power of Flight for more than five minutes, his wings burn up. And based on one late-game moment, there seems to be something of a cooldown, since using it again shortly after nearing the limit burnt up his wings. EDIT: Forgot to mention, it also seems like whoever grants him the Power of Flight (both Palutena and Viridi do so at different points) doesn’t let him fly freely.
I think that, instead of counting pixels, you guys could've divided the original game jump height by original game character height, and then multiplied that result by the smash character height. ya know, the butterfly method from school! you might have to still use pixels to determine the character heights, but it'd be way more accurate, because there's no way that Simon's jump should be less than his own height
Imagine if you referenced Yoshi's jump height from Super Mario Sunshine. It was NUTS in that game; you could quite literally leap tall buildings in a single bound.
A few issues: 1) Using Kirby and the Forgotten Land as the source, that's one of two games where he can't infinitely float (the other being Kirby 64). Another fun fact though, when Kirby's float runs out, you can do an aerial Hammer attack with right timing and go super high. 2) Should've used the original Kid Icarus for Pit's jump, which was a good few times his height as it's a platformer. The Power of Flight in Uprising isn't infinite either, he can only go at most 5 minutes before burning up. Should apply to Dark Pit as well.
@@CertifiedSoapEater Only until he gets to the Fountain of Time (or whatever it was called again), then he kinda loses Pandora and has to rely on Viridi.
If you’re curious on how high Mega Man jumps, he jumps a little over 9 ft if you’re using Mega Man 2 as the source material. His jump height can range in different heights, but 9 ft seems the most “accurate” jump height because of his weight and to connect more with the video instead of over 15 ft of jump height. Edit: I thought Pikachu can jump higher than he did here, maybe it’s only for the anime then.
I am confused of how they figured out Simons jump height because in the gameplay shown of castlevania he jumps over his own head height but they say his jump height is 1 foot 7 inches….SO IS HE 1 FOOT TALL?!?
Kirby, floating in the Forgotten Land Meta Knight, has wings King Dedede, Fighting a tree crown god that explains microtransactions within the franchise. I love RTDLDX and Magalor Epilogue so Goddamn much🍎❤️
I had wondered how Mario and Luigi would be handled, with all the different jump heights in different games and all the different heights the different jumps get. I think Odyssey's base jump might actually be the lowest jump Mario has in any Super Mario game, except for, like, the dive rollout or something. Fun video idea.
Olimar would be easily at least the 2nd worst. Since he can't even get Pikmin now, he wouldn't even be able to beat R.O.B And even then, Alph would be even weaker. [Edit]: Wait no, I just remembered that his ship is equipped with a star destroying weapon. Se he can probably get to top 10.
@@FranTheNerd , Joker godstomps Kirby by a landslide. Others who could easily put up with Kirby are Sonic, the FF characters, Sora, most Mario characters, possibly Ness and of course King Dedede and Meta Knight since these two have fought on equal terms with Kirby before.
> _Simon (canon height: 6'1") and Richter (canon height: 5'10")_ > _are capable of jumping literally _*_above their own heads_*_ in the clips provided_ > _"Jump Height: 1' 7" / 0.54m"_ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now this might be a little out of left field... just call it a hunch, but I don't think these guys know what the fuck they've been talking about throughout this entire video.
Idk, some of those jumps look too short actually. Like Simon's you said was 1'7" (.54m) but in the clip provided he's getting aerial height well over his full height, so he should have at least a 6' reach. Still a wonderful idea and lovely to see the chaos in action
I don't understand why Richter and Simon were jumping so low, they clearly jump higher than their own height in their games which would mean it should at least be higher than a meter, instead of the half-meter they got.
16:45 but Sonic literaly jumps buildings , he freaking jumped in a falling debree while holding a person and made his way Up instead of decreasing his fall
Simon: A normal human at normal human height... casually wearing all this gear at a standstill can jump so high, his feet are above where his head was pre-jump.. TCNick: His jump is ash... I'd like to see you do that, mortal.
7:42 Doesn’t Pikachu Know The Move Fly? Even If Not, In The Anime He Can Jump Higher Than Ash Who Has Once Jumped High Enough To Reach Team Rockets Hot Air Balloon. So Poppt Should’ve Had A Chance
Always amuses me when characters go basically nowhere in-game but will suddenly launch themselves to the moon in cutscenes as if its something they could always do.
lmao true like "I can just fly there but I'm gonna take my sweet time walking cause it's a nice day out and there's nothing at stake here"
Meamwhile, you have Ganondorf who can literally float in OOT, meaning its likely TP Ganondorf can do the same, but he has some of the worst recovery in the game. aside
dio and jotaro at the end of part 3 for some fucking reason:
Nick: "Samus cannot fly, she can only jump."
Metroid fans: "Yes... She can jump... infinitely."
Yeah when I saw the screw jump cancel in dark Samus I was hopeful that someone knew their lore, but sadly not.
What I find the most funny in this is that Nick played Metroid Dread. Can’t believe he forgot space jump.
Infinite up b could have been fun
Someone didn't know Space Jump exists
Bro he should have seen Samus’s space jump boots in Metroid Prime; Samus goes flying in that cutscene
1:51 ACTUALLY, Pit can only fly for 5 minutes with Palutena's guidance or else Pit's wings' burn
hence kid ICARUS, cause icarus wings burn cause he flew too close to the sun
@Leeloo_the_foxPit will die if that happens, and dark pit has unlimited flight not because he is stronger than pit, but because he absorbed Pandora's remains.
@Leeloo_the_fox Dark pit has the same limitations as Pit, he just used Pandoras powers which were stronger then Palutenas and let him fly for longer.
I would’ve said we could count the 3 Sacred Treasures(which let Pit fly without the power of flight granted by Palu or Viridi) but those got destroyed in Uprising. Also, even looking at Pit’s solo jump height in the games, the original kid Icarus is a platformer, and he’s got a decent jump height, but he only gets one. His uprising hops kind of suck though.
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I spent way too long just trying to get that pit wing effect working LMAO
We appreciate what you do! Keep on going and making great content!
Your mods are always incredible, well done as always!
You're the goat Lily!
came out great! it was a nice throwback to brawl
Lily fantastic work as always ty for keeping these fresh
Now Nick has to do the ultimate canon smash bros, you take every canon mod you've made and put them together. Size, jump, damage all of it
YES
Hell yeah brother 🤣
Oh gods kirby would show why he is king
erm actually kirby is only a few centimeters tall and he dosent jump 500 feet he actually is only jumping his height or a little more per jump therefore ur wrong ☝🤓
@@YamFRFRf everything about kirby is cannon he destroys every other character. In terms of strengh: kirby can hit a rushing meteor the size of a city back in to space screeching at multiple light years per second with a wooden baseball bat. Speed: kirby can run against the force of a black hole meaning he and sonic on foot are essentially on equal footing. In terms of derability: in canvas curse Drawcia tried to thanos snap him out of exsistence, the only thing it did to the pink puff ball was piss him off.
shoutout to Lily for making Pit's wings even prettier than they already are
why am I not surprised that you are the one to say that
Yw
And even more busted than he deserves to be
nu uh
@@LilyLambdaomg hi lily!
14:50 Samus does get an upgrade that allows infinite jumps
Also technically bombs let u fly.
Smh my head
Plus she's been shown to get aerial speed through her thrusters
She should get infiinte Up B because it's the Screw Attack (Up Special) that allows that ability, so you are correct.
@@lutetiunn wellll not quite. The space jump is (more often that not) acquired before the screwattack in metroid games. It's an ability that further enhances the jump rather than directly enabling it.
But ye infinite up B is LORE ACCURATE!!
Yoshi should have infinite double jumps that barely lose height if timed correctly
Yep
Dont play much mario
Thats a galaxy reference?
@@kedcasti thinl its a reference to yoshi island where if you time it right you can flutter more than once
@@kedcast why galaxy of all the games with yoshi and only 1 game where yoshi can't flutter jump? Is there a glitch there?
@@mariotheundyingin mario galaxy 2, yoshi can gain infinite height with a flutter jumping trick
7:58 Nick flying around the course with Meta Knight while explaining the rules of a jumping game to Poppt who is literally playing as a mouse is fucked up and hilarious 😂
TECHNICALLY Pit can only use Palutena's gift of Flight for 5 minutes before his wings burn up but this only happens once during a cutscene for gameplay's sake
We’ll a normal match is around 5 minutes soooo
yep and i believe the flight segments for every chapter are less than five minutes with the exception of 22
I bet I could jump higher than Nick
cap
@@TCNick3that is a factual statement nick
I'd absolutely dunk on Nick
@@TCNick3 what's ur vertical than? 15 inches max
Even a toddler can do it
10:25 "why does CLOUD get to do that??? he's not an *_ACTUAL CLOUD!"_*
Not sure how programmable that would be, probably near impossible if I had to guess, but Pit should only be able to jump an infinite amount of time for 5 minutes, each jump after that should set him on fire and deal 80% in self damage (mmm, chicken wings)
As for Captain Falcon, the anime made it pretty clear he can JUMP
He also jumps in the F-Zero GX victory movie and rips his pants.
Ground battle pit still has rocket jump and jump glide powers, so another way to do it is just the up special does damage to him.
While Kirby and Dedede do get infinite double jumps in their games, the actual height you get per Button press is rather small. you have to really spam the button to go up fast, and as such, the height of their multijump should have been nerfed even though they have infinite of them.
Also, they used Forgotten Land as the source for Kirby, one of the few games where he has a hover ceiling and can’t hover forever…
I want a video with all of the "canon" mods (damage, height, jump hight, etc)
That would be awesome
True
Kirby essentially becomes undefeatable.
@@mlpfanboy1701really a 0.8 gumball?
@@mlpfanboy1701fireball
"Fox jumps so high in the subspace cutscene"
Nick "not canon since its smash so cant use it"
Also Nick: *uses captain falcon reveal trailer from smash*
Also nick: we never see him jump anywhere else so this is the best we've got
Simon's jump in Castlevania isn't that bad. He can jump at least his full height, and he is not half a meter tall.
He is definitely not the length of my forearm, that's for sure. As soon as I saw that I was like "that ain't right"
Funnily enough in the match it looked accurate
@@triforce9286 yeah, in the match the jump mod stopped working, they just mistakenly thought that it was applied
definitely not the size of nick.
"his unimpressive jump in Castlevania"
Shows Simon jumping more than his entire height.
Comparatively so to other smash character okay?
Nick forgot that the space jump is an ability that Samus does indeed have.
Typical smash fan knowing nothing about Metroid
5 months late but he said it was the BASE jump, which I'm assuming he means the height of the jump without any upgrades to it.
9:48
Nick: No jumping Jordan, remember.
Jordan: Yea, I got Up-B tho
Nick: *NOOOOOOO*
If you count that advent children scene, than you can make Mario jump to heaven then. In Mario Strikers Charged he can literally jump higher than a building
The same can also be said for Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Daisy, DK, Bowser, Bowser Jr. and Diddy Kong too
But I believe the reason they didn't add it is because that is a spin-off game, not canonical.
@@sheriffbirb2781 well how about the Mario and Luigi franchise? Or even Super Mario RPG ? These are canon
I was expecting samus to have space jump or something to that degree
I think it would make more sense if Samus had cancelable up b to have space jump + screw attack than dark samus
Why do Richter and Simon have such puny jumps? They jump higher than their height.
I totally agree, they need to be able to jump over Dracula sometimes to dodge his attacks
Yeah, literally in the clip they used to show their "unimpressive" jump height, we see Simon jump well over his own height
17:15 FALSE! He jumps and rips his pants when he saves a baby from a train in his F-Zero GX character profile video
12:06 They buffed Mewtwo so much that he can now T-bag in air.
Pit can’t fly as long as he wants. If he uses the Power of Flight for more than five minutes, his wings burn up. And based on one late-game moment, there seems to be something of a cooldown, since using it again shortly after nearing the limit burnt up his wings.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, it also seems like whoever grants him the Power of Flight (both Palutena and Viridi do so at different points) doesn’t let him fly freely.
Nick should combine all these cannon mods to truly make characters accurate and bizarre
Height
Damage
Jump
Pokemon effectiveness
Everything
I like how some characters can barely jump while others literally just fly around infinitely.
I think that, instead of counting pixels, you guys could've divided the original game jump height by original game character height, and then multiplied that result by the smash character height. ya know, the butterfly method from school!
you might have to still use pixels to determine the character heights, but it'd be way more accurate, because there's no way that Simon's jump should be less than his own height
Imagine if you referenced Yoshi's jump height from Super Mario Sunshine. It was NUTS in that game; you could quite literally leap tall buildings in a single bound.
Kirby is 2 inches tall so canonically Kirby has unlimited jumps, but those jumps are tiny.
11:11 "Ohh you can just go soo deep!" "You come in anything!" WHAT WERE YOU SAYING BRO
4:12 another source for Rosalina's jump height could be Super Mario 3d World
Pit's infinite jumps should have had an ingame use timer (like rob's up-b fuel) of 5 minutes
Afterwards he takes constant damage while in the air
13:55 the almighty ganon could finally recover and be top tier for the first time
*Human jumps 6 feet high*
Nick: Yah that’s pretty normal.
Have you ever jumped?
"After seeing his unimpressive jump in castlevania"
He jumped higher than his entire height! That is not 1'7" lols
Unless he's bigger in Smash, I guess.
As an Uprising fan, saying he can fly for an infinite amount of time dealt psychic damage to me.
Well,Smash battles barely last longer than 5 min most of the time so it's not too bad
11:17 These two lines bro 💀
Fr
A few issues:
1) Using Kirby and the Forgotten Land as the source, that's one of two games where he can't infinitely float (the other being Kirby 64). Another fun fact though, when Kirby's float runs out, you can do an aerial Hammer attack with right timing and go super high.
2) Should've used the original Kid Icarus for Pit's jump, which was a good few times his height as it's a platformer. The Power of Flight in Uprising isn't infinite either, he can only go at most 5 minutes before burning up. Should apply to Dark Pit as well.
Dark pit has infinite flight unlike regular pit because he absorbed the remains of pandora
@@CertifiedSoapEater Only until he gets to the Fountain of Time (or whatever it was called again), then he kinda loses Pandora and has to rely on Viridi.
"Why does Cloud get to do that? He's not an actual cloud." had me dyin' bro XD
5:36 wait: isn’t Steve’s jump already canon height?? How are you measuring a meter in Smash?
They say it at start. By pixels and stuff but "In Smash lore" does'nt count.
Btw... they break that rule with Captain Falcon.
@@jesuse.montano2 I don't think Captain Falcon jumps in FZero
12:00 ah yes here we see dracula the 1'7" vampire king
Well, if your source for Kirby is Forgotten Land… that’s the one game where his jumps are actually limited both in height and number~
You should do a mod where you flip the stages upside down but the characters still play as normal. I’d love to see how that changes things
14:23 "You're still Ganon bro"
Yeah Nick...Light thought the same thing a few years back 🤣🤣
15:26 so can we ask the TCnation’s editor on what the actual hell is that image? It genuinely caught me off guard.
i love how nick used forgotten land for kirby one of the main games where kirby gets tired and can't fly infinitely
Dude forgot Rosalina was a playable jumping character in Mario 3D World.
If you’re curious on how high Mega Man jumps, he jumps a little over 9 ft if you’re using Mega Man 2 as the source material.
His jump height can range in different heights, but 9 ft seems the most “accurate” jump height because of his weight and to connect more with the video instead of over 15 ft of jump height.
Edit: I thought Pikachu can jump higher than he did here, maybe it’s only for the anime then.
I am confused of how they figured out Simons jump height because in the gameplay shown of castlevania he jumps over his own head height but they say his jump height is 1 foot 7 inches….SO IS HE 1 FOOT TALL?!?
Meters
12:15 and THATS why u always pick the sickter
YESSSS I've been waiting for the canon jump mod!!!! 💕 tysm for the top tier content
9:50 because Piranha Plant is my GOAT
12:53 to 13:00 was an absolute perfection man, good job.
14:55 "Samus doesn't get to fly."
Space jump be like...
Kirby, floating in the Forgotten Land
Meta Knight, has wings
King Dedede, Fighting a tree crown god that explains microtransactions within the franchise. I love RTDLDX and Magalor Epilogue so Goddamn much🍎❤️
I had wondered how Mario and Luigi would be handled, with all the different jump heights in different games and all the different heights the different jumps get. I think Odyssey's base jump might actually be the lowest jump Mario has in any Super Mario game, except for, like, the dive rollout or something. Fun video idea.
8:10 we have a lion, up against a thousand ants, who will win????
Ants are fast, if they weren't small
Now you have to make a video where EVERYTHING about each character is canon and see what happens 👀
kirby would oneshot EVERYTHING lmao
Olimar would be easily at least the 2nd worst. Since he can't even get Pikmin now, he wouldn't even be able to beat R.O.B And even then, Alph would be even weaker.
[Edit]: Wait no, I just remembered that his ship is equipped with a star destroying weapon. Se he can probably get to top 10.
@@FranTheNerd, far from it
@@The_Gabe the only contender is joker, really. in terms of canon power scaling
@@FranTheNerd , Joker godstomps Kirby by a landslide. Others who could easily put up with Kirby are Sonic, the FF characters, Sora, most Mario characters, possibly Ness and of course King Dedede and Meta Knight since these two have fought on equal terms with Kirby before.
"Pit can fly for as long as he wants"
The 5 minute burn up timer:
2:45 Many have already said it, but Simon literally jumped to his full height or even more lol
> _Simon (canon height: 6'1") and Richter (canon height: 5'10")_
> _are capable of jumping literally _*_above their own heads_*_ in the clips provided_
> _"Jump Height: 1' 7" / 0.54m"_ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Now this might be a little out of left field... just call it a hunch, but I don't think these guys know what the fuck they've been talking about throughout this entire video.
7:18 I’d like to point out that the whole humans are still around thing can’t be applied here.
Shulk isn’t a human.
His species is called Homs.
Jordan: Do you get to fly?
Nick: That’s how I know you haven’t played Metroid.
*Space Jump: Am I a joke to you?*
~10:31 top 10 anime battles
The fact link can jump with all of the stuff he has on him is impressive.
@@Dado_nastro Well, the fact that Link can shove a bunch of apples in his mouth to heal is also impressive.
This combined with canon sizes and canon damage would be hilarious.
Bro should DEFINETLY do a video called "Smash but everything is cannon" where he just combines all of these "cannon" mods
6:01 TCNick3 saying "Amelia"
6:31 the interpolation on the legs is insane 😭
Lily is goated! She's super impressive with making these mods!!
pikachu can jump much higher in his only 3d fully playable appearances, the pokepark games. you did my boy dirty.
Lily once again proving that the editor isn’t the *only* one who’s carrying Nick. 😊
Of course, did you forget what the C in TCNick stands for?
@@DenisCreatorBreaker Of course not. It’s just a question of who’s responsible for Mr. Carried’s name. 😆
0:56 Are the jump heights between BotW and TotK the same?
Surprised there was no Sora, given his high jump ability (and double flight)
TCNick: but to complete the objective.
Me: what DO you mean by that 🤨🤔🤨
0:31
Canon Damage+ canon jump height+Canon height
10:42 I'm a corrin player and this had me dying lmao the sheer disgust and disinterest in poppt's voice
1:37 Kirby still has a limit on jumps
I feel like Smash Kirby should just have infinite jumps already. And Meta Knight has gliding back.
wow the kingdom hearts music at 8:58 brought back memories!
duels of Fate
@@cmcasey1975AO star wars right
As someone who recently beat Botw, Link having a 'baby hop' is far to accurate, if not an overstatement XD
At least they used the version of Link that can actually jump. 😅
15:31 R.I.P woomy...
F in chat bro
Idk, some of those jumps look too short actually. Like Simon's you said was 1'7" (.54m) but in the clip provided he's getting aerial height well over his full height, so he should have at least a 6' reach.
Still a wonderful idea and lovely to see the chaos in action
It seems like the height was actually meant to be 1.7 m (5 ft. 7 in., pretty close to 6 ft.) but the units got mixed up.
for Rosalina, you can play as her in Super Mario 3D World, so that could’ve been a good place to look for her Jump Height
I don't understand why Richter and Simon were jumping so low, they clearly jump higher than their own height in their games which would mean it should at least be higher than a meter, instead of the half-meter they got.
15:00 Normally in Splatoon you can`t use the Super Jump in the air
Splatoon 3 says otherwise
True but when you can...
16:45 but Sonic literaly jumps buildings , he freaking jumped in a falling debree while holding a person and made his way Up instead of decreasing his fall
Inkling literally jumped to space this isn't based on their most impressive jumps just their typical games
11:42 the laugh sounds like elmo
Probably the most fair contest ever made lmao. ( also really fun to see the inkling's superjump included )
2:05 bring back Brawl Pit, Brawl Pit was cooler in every way.
Simon: A normal human at normal human height... casually wearing all this gear at a standstill can jump so high, his feet are above where his head was pre-jump..
TCNick: His jump is ash...
I'd like to see you do that, mortal.
7:42 Doesn’t Pikachu Know The Move Fly?
Even If Not, In The Anime He Can Jump Higher Than Ash Who Has Once Jumped High Enough To Reach Team Rockets Hot Air Balloon.
So Poppt Should’ve Had A Chance
your videos have the most quality out of every smash youtuber I have seen
11:30 Emblem Engage goes hard for no reason.
Missed opportunity to reference rosalinas jump height from 3d world
Every event for Nick is a canon event apparently
Lily out here doing the lord’s work with these smash
mods
6:20 the fact Steve wasn't nerfed by the removal of his jump is an oof!